I have been carrying the 938 and shooting it for close to 10 yrs.. 938 BRG...came w/ the extension on the mags...I have never had an issue w/ failure to feed. It has never failed me. 124 or 147 yr 9mm. I love the 1911 style, I have other pistols but this my go to EDC.
I just passed up buying a Kimber Micro 9 because of mag feed issue and the fix was to install Sig 938 mag’s which fixed the problem! Now I watched this and you added a Kimber mag to fix feed issues with your Sig. WTF
@@michaelwilson2151 Before sending it back to Sig for warranty repairs I loaded the mag’s with snap caps and chambered & un chambered several times. After inspecting the caps I noticed that the last cap didn’t have a witness mark like the others. This was proof the mag springs were weak. If you remove the slide turn upside down and look you’ll notice a small dimple just behind the chamber face. This acts as a pre-loader for the next round and is why when you remove a loaded mag the last round falls out of the gun or is pushed forward in the mag but still captured in the mag. If you remove the grips you can see it’s made to accommodate the round being pushed forward. I’ll try to add pictures if I can find them. I don’t know if the Kimber has the dimple or extended space in the frame. Sig changed the springs and polished the feed ramp. No further issues, shoots reliably.
I’ve had mine for 7 years and it eats everything. I really think based on my experience it’s the mag. I’ve got 2 Sig mags and bought a third and it pops out sometimes when I shoot causing a stoppage. Other than that, I’ve had to loctite the guide rod, safety levers, and grip screws as these will loosen. I do see why people give up on them but I paid too much and just chose to keep it, work the bugs out of it and I’m glad I did. My EDC gun and it shoots flawlessly and accurate
Funny that the Kimber mag was the fix. I had a Kimber Micro 9 that had the exact same issue you were having with this P938. And it’s the same when you search videos for the Micro 9. Tons of videos with failure to feed claims, and loads of comments in the video that say “I fed 1,000 rounds through mine and no problems!” I could shoot Winchester white box FMJ through the Kimber all day and though it wasn’t perfect, it didn’t have failures very often. As soon as I’d put any type of defensive round in it it would fire and failure to feed immediately. I’d fix it.. failure to feed. I shot more than a dozen types of ammo through and the only one it would run a whole mag without failures was Winchester FMJ. I talked to quite a few people and heard all sorts of advice. “Polish the feed ramp”, “make sure you’re holding it right”, and ironically, “these Kimber magazines have trouble. Try a magazine from a sig”. Nothing worked and after about 700 rounds I gave up and sold it. I really wanted it to work. It was comfortable to carry and I wish I could find a gun like this that didn’t have this sort of issue.. but after my experience with the Kimber and seeing all the problems that Sig owners have had with these, I’m of the mind that the only 1911 I’ll ever buy from here is a full sized.
I have had the same issues with my 938 and I believe the mag. follower springs have too much tension. Now that I have stored the mags full for a while, I seem to get fewer mis-feeds. I noticed from the start that the spring tension spread the mags open and cartridges would tumble a bit. For a while, I could not load a mag. with the slide open, fail every time. I am hoping my follower springs will relax a bit more...
The problem is that the gun jumps around too much in your hand with the stock magazine. The magazine with the extended grip for your pinky gives you more stability. Smaller guns malfunction more with the smallest amount of extra motion.
I've had a 938 for several years now without any issues what so ever. I have the BRG version with the black rubber grips and extended mag with finger rest. I have smaller hands but the grips fit very well and are very comfortable.
Concealed Carry Channel, I believe I have some information about this issue. I bought a new 938 Ambi and has issues with the last round not chambering and it was spit out of the gun. Before returning it back to Sig for warranty repair I loaded the mag’s with snap caps and cycled the rounds. I noticed the last round didn’t have a witness mark on it. All other rounds had the mark. This confirmed the mag springs were weak not able to keep pressure on the last round to engage the dimple on the bottom of the slide. If you’ve removed a loaded mag and the round ready to go into the chamber falls out it was pushed by the dimple. The frame is made to accommodate the round being pushed forward. Sig replaced mag springs and polished the feed ramp. Problem solved no other issues and very reliable. Best of luck
Yet, I’ve carried this exact Sig 938 “Rosewood” for over a decade RELIABLY as my EDC with the Factory extended mags in a Desantis leather mini scabbard holster! I just recently switched back to a revolver; the Kimber K6s 357 magnum that’s beautifully crafted with night sights and 6-shot capabilities I carry in a leather Desantis paddle holster now as my EDC. I still keep my 938 9mm will fit in any pocket and it was expensive at purchase but so were both my pistols mentioned. I am a firm believer in “You get what you pay for!” But this little Sig has been a great gun for me! I’d like to get a velcro ankle holster and carry as a backup will be my next purchase! I’m a Kimber man and wanted the Kimber Raptor Micro 9 to match my Kimber 1911 Pro Raptor ll in 45 acp but couldn’t justify paying ALL that money for basically the same pistol as my 938 with ONLY difference being SS and just Beautifully crafted as the Raptor 1911 & rest of their line of firearms.#Sig#938”Rosewood”#9mm#Micro
Thank you so much for posting this follow up. I have this pistol and I love everything about it except for the unreliability aspect. I contacted Sig CS, tried different grain/mfgr ammo, got with the trainer to see if I was limp wristing, etc. I will definitely try changing out the mags.
Just found your channel and grateful for it. Bought a P938, and had a FTF the first time at the range. Only been to the range with it once so we'll see what happens the next time but your videos have been so helpful.
I've had no issues with my recently purchased 938 and it eats my reloads with no problems. I'm curious to know if you ever contacted Sig again letting them know that a competitors mags fixed the problem?
Seems to be a common issue with these P938 and P238 guns. My P238 was having failure to feed issues periodically during the first 200 rounds with a couple types of ammo. I ended up polishing the feed ramp and giving it a good cleaning/oiling between range visits and it has become reliable since. I just bought a Springfield 911 mag and it fits just like the Sig unit, so I am going to test that out too. Also have a couple sets of Magguts springs/followers on the way to try.
I have the exact same pistol and have never had a malfunction. Hundreds of rounds of perfection. Sucks that you got one with bad clips. Love this gun. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have this gun…and bought two more for my daughters. Flawless performance, dead accurate, super easy to conceal. At least a thousand rounds through them each, before the ammo shortage. I have a lot of weapons; this is my favorite carry pistol, hands-down.
Just picked mine up new from an older gentleman who was cleaning out his collection. Fired about 100 rounds through all 4 7round mags that I got with the gun. Not one jam, made sure to clean and lube it prior to firing and then again after a short break in of 100 rounds.
I've had my P938 and used both the flush and extended magazines from Sig. I cannot remember if I've ever had a problem. It's snappy, but for close quarters it's my EDC. I also use the Ruger LCR 327 Federal
Wow... I'm shocked to stumble across this review... I've had mine for years and years now. Infact it was my only gun for a while. I've fired thousands of rounds from the cheapest ammo I can get my hands to the pricey hollow points and I've never had even one round fail. 👍🏼
Mine runs great, my only issue is that the magazine release spring is rather weak and will eject the magazine if I run with the extended magazine when in my ankle holster.
I have the same gun with the same problems, and like you, I had little confidence in its reliability. The biggest issue I had with mine was with using the 7-round magazine. The magazine would almost always eject before it was finished causing a stoppage. Multiple shooters, grip variations etc. no matter, the 7-round magazine was the primary issue. The 6-round magazines didn’t have this problem. I also couldn’t use any ammo less than 124 gr bullet weight. As long as I used at least 124 gr FMJ or JHP and I stuck to the 6-round magazines I was fine. So in the end I went back to carrying my Kahr PM9. I like the idea of the P938 but not enough to trust mine.
I have four 938’s and have had zero issues with any of them, but all I use are the flush, six round mags, to keep the grip profile as short as possible.
@@gregshock Your comments got me thinking about the issues I’ve had with my 2013-vintage P938. One observation I could make was that the original 7-round magazines I bought (3) all have problems ejecting prematurely and by comparison I have 4 original 6-round magazines that work just fine. I like this gun; I want to make it work. Just upgrading the magazine release and spring (Gen II from Midwest Gun Works) did not fix my 7-round magazine problem. A couple of weeks ago I decided to try it again, and I bought a new 7-seven round magazine. What I noticed with the new magazine is that there are slight design differences in the current 7-round magazine. Most notably on the left side of the magazine (looking down range so to speak) there is a small dimple located on the top near the follower. There may be other changes not obvious to me. I guess my real point is this magazine works fine, no issues.
@@yellowboxster06: I hope you get your issues resolved. These little Sigs are really nice guns, if you don’t really mind running around with 6+1 bullets in your gun. I like the new higher cap micros, too, like the SP365 or the Taurus GX4, but most of the time, 7 rounds is enough and way better than nothing. Another thing. I read before that the early 938’s were sometimes problematic, whereas they worked out all the bugs from the later guns.
Well I've had my new P938 Legion 4 months now, 500 rounds of FMJ & JHP, the last 200 were JHP, I've not had a single malfunction. I've watch your P938 videos at least twice (I watched several other channels also). I did see the reports of the two piece guide rod coming apart but those seemed to be earlier versions, I immediately found the original Sig replacement ONE PIECE rod and have it as a backup, as mine it still tight. I'm actually thinking of getting a another P 938 in a couple of months.
Looks like I may be the only other person to have magazine issues with the 938. On the short magazine, I occasionally get a partial ejection of the magazine at the same time I get a FTF. It doesn't happen often, but it's enough to keep me from carrying it as my primary weapon.
I'm shock with all the issues I'm hearing from people. Amazing the KImber magazines work. I have the Legion version and had no issues what so ever but it's strange to hear issues with the regular version.
Mine stovepiped several rounds per mag new out of the box. Sent it in, they put a new extractor in it and it ran fine ever since. Took a good while to rebuild trust but it’s my edc now.
Mine was having a problem with the magazines coming out during firing. Or, if my pinky was wrapped under the magazine, it would pop out ever so slightly and the slide wouldn't pick up a round. Solution: New upgraded mag catch from Sig after they found and fixed this very common issue. They enlarged the shelf that the mag's catch slot rests on. I have yet to try Kimber mags yet, but it's so secure now that I imagine even promag magazines would work.
I’ve heard of this problem before and I have this gun and experienced the same thing. The workaround that solved the issue for me was higher grain ammo. 120+ will avoid the issue.
Interesting! Thinking in a similar way, I purchased a new Sig extended mag hoping the problem would go away, but it didn't. I'll give the Kimber mag a try.
Experienced several makes that a few mags from a batch didn't feed well at all. Every one of them needed taken apart and cleaned of production fluids inside. With evaporation they become sticky and won't feed properly. Never added any oil to any mag.
Mine came with the 7 round mag and the flush mag and neither have gave me any problem with any kind of ammo and I’ve shot damn near every kind I can find!! I also have the hogue style grip with the finger groves but made by sig on it as well as the crimson trace made by dog laser and I carry this baby daily! Thanks for the videos keep them coming !!
Bought one a few years ago, love it now. Had one issue though, had to slam the mag in because the mag release spring was extremely tight, got it fixed, was an easy fix too, just switched it out with a looser full size 1911 spring and cut it down to fit🤷🏻♂️. Love it to this day😅
Here’s something crazy. My 938 malfunctions with Kimber mags due to the follower hanging up on the mag release but my Sig mags work OK. Sad thing is the Kimber mags are much more affordable than Sig mags. The 938 can be finicky in my opinion.
All I can say, my SIG P938 Sport runs flawless with the flush 6 rounder it came with, the 7 round magazine too, plus the 2 xtra 7 rounder extender mags I bought later all work fine. Sorry that you're experiencing this from such a fine Brand such as SIG SAUER.
It would be interesting to know if it's the magazine body or the spring or the follower. What happens when you put the Kimber follower in the Sig magazine body?
I have a P938 that runs flawlessly on Sig mags , however I ran into this same problem with a M+P Shield in 40 S&W . I had to file material of the mag nearest the ramp . Problem solved unless I load Fiocchi 170 grain. That even choked my Sig 250 . Change up the ammo before mailing it back to Sig, they never find the problem.
I had same problem with my p938.the rounds in a full magazine didn't have the correct attitude to be fed correctly.only way I could get the rounds to stay down at the front was to lightly pinch the front area of the feed lips until desired effect was accomplished.i find this common these days with odd calibers and aftermarket magazines.i did use my sig mags though.good luck!
I want to say there was an issue with the mag release on earlier models of the 938/238? My dad and brother had them and I think both sent them to Sig to have the releases replaced because it would ever so slightly drop the mag after a few rounds and FTF. I have a newer gen of this and have yet to have any of these issues thankfully!
That is really crazy! I have a 938 and I am reticent to carry it. Mine ran good on FMJ but stuff like Hornady critical defense no-dice. It’s an expensive micro pistol to own and have it not run! I never thought it might be the magazine, that’s very interesting. I don’t have those Kimber mags but it would probably be worth trying one. So they are for the micro nine and one called an EVO? Definitely gonna try that. The 938 would be awesome for deep concealment if you could trust it. By the way, mine is really super accurate for what it is, that was surprising, also. Thanks for this tip, sir! Worth a go in my estimstion.
I frankly love my P238, it is extremely accurate and has flawlessly fired ffmj and jhp. At first Sig had growing pains that I know of....I hadn't heard anyone give P938 a bad review
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel seriously thank you for your experience, I have been debating on getting a P938, and if I do I'll definitely remember that Kimber mags fit
I bought a 938 that was a popular range rental for a few years. I won't bore you with all the things wrong with it but it had a failure similar to the one you described. I cleaned and replaced springs as needed and fixed the other problems. When the gun was cycling, as the new shell was lloaded, the shell beneath was pulled forward. When the gun tried to extract the shell, the shell that was forward interferred with the travel and the extractor pulled off the lip of the shell and the gun was jamed. Again I tried a lot of things and kept logs of the results. I did replace the extractor and its spring with a new one from Sig. I did not have any Kimber mags and frankly never thought of that. I tried to get a stronger extractof spring and was unable to find one. The gun still had 10 of more failes to cycle for each box of shells. I took the old extractor spring and stretched it a little less than 1/8 inch. The extractor was tought to reinstall with the extra spring pressure. According to my log, i now have had 950 rounds with no failures. That is a mix of range and critical defence ammunition. After, the 950, I shot 400 rounds of steel. It never failed but it did break the little tail off the extractor after about 200 rounds. I did replace the extractor and have shot 200 rounds or so with no failures. I decided that steel in these small guns was a stretch. I did find other fixes that fixed the cycle problem but they caused other unccceptable problems.
I have this same problem with mine. The second round is pushed forward when the first round is chambered, which causes all kinds of problems. When I eject the magazine the top round ejects from the magazine and falls down the well. When shooting get ftf constantly.
I have a 938. The issue I have is when I am firing the gun the magazine falls out. I thought it was the way I was holding it. Tried one handed and the magazine still fell out. One of the range officers thinks it could be the magazine release spring. He noticed as you eject the magazine it ejects rapidly. He said think about when there are bullets in the mag weighing it down. I will try the new heavy spring and if not just try the kimber mag. But yes, for a very expensive conceal gun its disappointing that we have to do any adjustments.
I had the same problem, I removed the magazine release spring and stretched it out a bit. That seems to have fixed the problem on my sig. My magazines don't fall out anymore
Same issue but different pistol ... I have a Sig P220 that wouldn't feed 45ACP from the stock mags. Bought some aftermarket MagPro magazines and my P220 eats everything except semi wadcutters. Oddly enough, my P938 has had absolutely no problems eating ball or hollowpoint ammo with the stock magazines.
Well I've carried mine now for about 5 years and I have to say my grip screws one fell out first time shooting it then I fixed that and blue lock tight is your friend Recently my front fiber sight fell out but some super glue its back in action All and all it never jams,its always accurate and nothing is stock at this point, spring,barrel, grip, light,trigger,hammer, all aftermarket even the firing pin
Thanks. I have the same exact gun with the same problem and also sent to sig twice. It pisses me off that they know these have this issue and basically deny it and blame malfunctions on user error. I was just about to sell it but maybe I’ll try this first. Then again idk because I definitely don’t trust it anymore. I used to like Sig but anytime they respond to a gun issue it’s always in the form of denying the issue exists.they do it with the P320 as well. So I’m done with Sig.
Nice follow up. I can’t say it enough, I love this gun. Bought mine at a pawn shop, had the flush fit mag and 3 extended mags for $600, had the box and holster that I replaced but it was serviceable…all the normal stuff. So for a small 9mm made by Sig, I figured it was worth a roll of the dice. I’m typically a revolver man. Just a choice, I think they are sexier. But more often than not, I grab the p938 to go somewhere, and that says a lot. It’s just so easy to carry and shoots really well. 7 shots are really all I feel I’ll need and so it’s a good platform that is very much like a 1911. Just tiny
FYI: I had issues with another gun's magazines that was caused by the magazine's lip just touching the extractor. This prevented the slide going into battery. The gun is a Kahr CW45 with a Kimber magazine. Its lip was too high for the CW45's extractor to clear. By lightly sanding (200 grip paper) the lip, the magazine now totally clears the extractor. I notice on some 1911 slides, the extractor sits high on the slide where in other 1911 frames, the extractor sits low. This is the problem in using off brand magazines. Your description, however, is the opposite. The Kimber magazine works where the Sig doesn't. I'd check the Sig magazine for clearance when the extractor slides over the magazine. (I have a P238 and I'm currently leaning on getting a P938. I bought the P238 before the P938 was marketed by Sig, otherwise, I would have gotten the P938.)
Had a 938 in fact I still do. It’s been in my rotation for several years. I tested it after well over a month of pocket carry in a holster and it ate a full load of federal hst hollow points with no issues at all. One thing I stress constantly is constant maintenance, I generally service my carry guns monthly or before extended storage. I also use small amounts of oil on mag followers. Do that and you’ll eliminate a number of things that can jam your gun
Check the magazine opening do they measure the same as the kimber? I had a couple extend mags where the top lips were pinched in at the front. Also on extended mags I had contact on the black extension peace at rear, hitting the heal of the mag well frame. Once cleared the mag would lock in to position much easier. O more feed problems. A shame what I thought was a higher level product has such problems. I am going to get a kimber mag asap.
It's rumored that the first four years of production, the 9mm version of this gun used " 380 feed ramps".. I've no idea why a 380 feed ramp would be different than a 9mm , but this what's been said.. people with 938s after the 4th year seem to love their pistol. And those first 4 years are plagued with problems. The issue I have and why I won't own a new sig, is because of their garbage customer service and even worse quality control..
I just bought the 938 SAS. Maybe it’s because the magazines are so new the springs are so tight it causes the gun to double feed between the third and the sixth round every time
I am scardd of dropping this kind of money on kimber 9 or sig, when i has ssen so many problems and returns to factory. I bought a kahr k9 and the ejector assembly flew off it injuring my hand on round 20. It is currently at factory. Any suggestions?
Just bought a Kimber micro 9 magazine for my sig p938 SAS. The magazine doesn’t fit at all. My 938 jams every 3rd or 4th round. I sent it back to Sig this morning
Now that you have an extended mag… You have a longer effective grip on this gun now with another finger around the grip. More stable/firm purchase than with fewer fingers on the shorter grip. Less grip/leverage could lead to somewhat of a limp wrist effect. Why didnt you use a Sig extended grip that most of these 938’s came with for your evaluation? I’ll bet you the 7 round Sig mags would give you better results just like the non-Sig mags did. How about doing Sig a solid and test their extended mags out? And, to eliminate the possibility that its just your technique, let someone else shoot a couple hundred rounds through it with the 6 round mags from Sig. I suspect that the results might surprise you.
One note. I had a similar feed issue and as soon as I went to some hotter ammo, better but not +p, (maybe +p would help, it is a Sig, should take it, but just an opinion)feed issues went away. Those guns have a very stiff spring- try the dissembly. After a few mags of hotter stuff, it fed the normal stuff just fine. Just wear it in.
Very interesting. Sig seems to have mag problems, I just bought a 320 and the mags only hold 12 rds wtf. Seems like the mags are made all over the place..?
I have the Sig 938 and have never any problems with the pistol or the Sig mags. I like it when I need something really compact. I bought several Kimber mags because they were much more affordable and the work as well. Another pistol along the lines of the Sig 938 is the Smith and Wesson CSX in 9MM. I am going to purchase the S&W CSX, when I find one local, and if it is as reliable as my 938 I will carry the S&W to get more capacity (10 + 1 and 12 + 1). The S&W CSX may be worth a look. Anyway, thank you for the video.
938 IS NY NUMBER ONE CARRY "I LOVE THE GUN " MY 938 HAS HAD NO PROBLEMS , I DO HAVE A KIMBER MAG AND THE END THAT EXTENDS THE GRIP IS EVEN LONGER THEN WHAT YOU HAVE AND YES THE EXTENDED MAGS ARE A LOT NICER FOR HAND COMFORT , SIG ALSO HAS THE EXTENDED MAGS , I HAVE NEVER HAD A MAG THAT HAS GIVEN ME ANY PROBLEM SO JUST THROW AWAY THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT AND BE HAPPY YOU SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM.
If you find my comment (from less than a half hour ago) on your original post, I suggested the possibility that the short grip on the P938 my create, effectively, a limp wrist; not because the wrist was limp, but because the missing pinky finger couldn't leverage the recoil. I suggested this because I am a very small individual with small hands, and my 938 works with both magazines, flawlessly. Your Kimber magazine (if I am correct, which would be a first...), since it is longer, permits you to have more leverage on the bottom of the grip. If you test both magazines (Sig and Kimber) with friends with small hands, you may find your solution there. I hope this works for you, because, from your description in this video, I think my conjecture was correct; your hands are too big to get purchase on the bottom of the grip frame, unless augmented by a longer magazine. Best wishes.
If it makes you feel any better, in five years and 5000 rounds, I've never had a failure to feed. Though no feed issues, the plastic collar at the base of the 7rd mags became too easily displaced, preventing the mag from being locked in the well. Epoxy, and some add-on slam pads glued directly to the mag baseplates have fixed it. I haven't seen/heard a single review of the P938 mentioning the problem with the 7rd extension collar, but all three of my 7-rounders failed in the same way, after about 300 rounds through each, and it's a real death jam, as the mag has to be withdrawn, collar slipped up and off the top of the tube, then the mag can be reinserted.
Hi and. Thanks for your thoughts.... How does your safety lever operate? Mine is very stiff, almost to the point of moving the pistol or the weapon to get better leverage in order to toggle it. This is both to engage and dis engage. Is yours smooth and comfortable to toggle? Thanks.
I've had mine for about 6 years.... never had an issue! Love this gun, and I've put hundreds of rounds through it. Guess... just every once in a while you can get unlucky with any type of pistol.
Gentlemen..... it's not just the mag... it the mag in THAT GUN. Multifactorial with a interaction of that gun with those mags. I had a Glock 30S that did the same thing.
Late review, but I have not had any problems with my P938 Equinox. I hav e on e flush standard mag and three Sig extended mags and have no malfunctions in well over 700 rounds. I pounded the hell out of this weapon in prep for the CCW qual every week for over a month without cleaning and lub, and it functioned without a single issue!
The funny thing is the only thing I changed on my Kimber Custom II 1911 was the mag to Wilson Combat. Kimber is known to have shitty mags, but I guess they're still better than Sig factory mags.
You can’t use just any Micro9 7-round mag. I bought a used, as-new, P938 that will not fire two consecutive rounds - ever. Semi-smokestack failures to eject. Inspired by your video I shopped online for a Micro9 mag and found none like yours that has 2 cutouts for the mag latch - one on each side of the mag. The only models I could find with extensive shopping have just one such cutout, located variously on one side or the other of the mag. Buy the wrong one and the mag cannot lock into place and will just drop out. If the mag swap doesn't work I'll just have to send the gun to Sig and hope for the best.
Every time is see a video like this I am surprised. I got my p938 Equinox about 6 years ago. I use five different magazines all Sig - two flush 6 rounds and three extended 7 rounders. I have my 938 to run flawlessly with all of the Sig magazines and it will run any and all ammo including aluminum case and my own reloads.
I have had these problems constantly with this pistol. Strangely the only ammo I have never had any kind of feed problem with is aluminum cased ammo (federal)... Go figure. I want to try a Kimber micro 9 mag but noticed they are available in 6,7, and 8 round capacity. Which one fixed your feed problems or would any work? This gun, great on so many ways, has been nothing but a waste of money. If a Kimber mag can fix it I def want to try it asap... Would love to be able to trust this pistol enough to carry. Sending it back to sig was a total waste of time... Sig will never admit they have a defective gun. Thanks
Thx for update. I have the same problems with my sig shooting hollow points. My p938 can not finish a clip without having a feed jam. I’m sending my gun to sig to review, but I’m afraid there gonna tell me the same thing as they told you. I have not seen any recall on clips. Let’s see what they say.
I have been carrying the 938 and shooting it for close to 10 yrs.. 938 BRG...came w/ the extension on the mags...I have never had an issue w/ failure to feed. It has never failed me. 124 or 147 yr 9mm. I love the 1911 style, I have other pistols but this my go to EDC.
Very interesting solution! Thank you. I had a P938 with the same issues. Valuable info!
I just passed up buying a Kimber Micro 9 because of mag feed issue and the fix was to install Sig 938 mag’s which fixed the problem! Now I watched this and you added a Kimber mag to fix feed issues with your Sig. WTF
I have both kimber and sig magazines for my p938... never once had a problem...
@@michaelwilson2151 Before sending it back to Sig for warranty repairs I loaded the mag’s with snap caps and chambered & un chambered several times. After inspecting the caps I noticed that the last cap didn’t have a witness mark like the others. This was proof the mag springs were weak. If you remove the slide turn upside down and look you’ll notice a small dimple just behind the chamber face. This acts as a
pre-loader for the next round and is why when you remove a loaded mag the last round falls out of the gun or is pushed forward in the mag but still captured in the mag. If you remove the grips you can see it’s made to accommodate the round being pushed forward.
I’ll try to add pictures if I can find them. I don’t know if the Kimber has the dimple or extended space in the frame. Sig changed the springs and polished the feed ramp. No further issues, shoots reliably.
I’ve had mine for 7 years and it eats everything. I really think based on my experience it’s the mag. I’ve got 2 Sig mags and bought a third and it pops out sometimes when I shoot causing a stoppage. Other than that, I’ve had to loctite the guide rod, safety levers, and grip screws as these will loosen. I do see why people give up on them but I paid too much and just chose to keep it, work the bugs out of it and I’m glad I did. My EDC gun and it shoots flawlessly and accurate
Funny that the Kimber mag was the fix. I had a Kimber Micro 9 that had the exact same issue you were having with this P938. And it’s the same when you search videos for the Micro 9. Tons of videos with failure to feed claims, and loads of comments in the video that say “I fed 1,000 rounds through mine and no problems!” I could shoot Winchester white box FMJ through the Kimber all day and though it wasn’t perfect, it didn’t have failures very often. As soon as I’d put any type of defensive round in it it would fire and failure to feed immediately. I’d fix it.. failure to feed. I shot more than a dozen types of ammo through and the only one it would run a whole mag without failures was Winchester FMJ. I talked to quite a few people and heard all sorts of advice. “Polish the feed ramp”, “make sure you’re holding it right”, and ironically, “these Kimber magazines have trouble. Try a magazine from a sig”. Nothing worked and after about 700 rounds I gave up and sold it. I really wanted it to work. It was comfortable to carry and I wish I could find a gun like this that didn’t have this sort of issue.. but after my experience with the Kimber and seeing all the problems that Sig owners have had with these, I’m of the mind that the only 1911 I’ll ever buy from here is a full sized.
I have had the same issues with my 938 and I believe the mag. follower springs have too much tension. Now that I have stored the mags full for a while, I seem to get fewer mis-feeds. I noticed from the start that the spring tension spread the mags open and cartridges would tumble a bit. For a while, I could not load a mag. with the slide open, fail every time. I am hoping my follower springs will relax a bit more...
The problem is that the gun jumps around too much in your hand with the stock magazine. The magazine with the extended grip for your pinky gives you more stability. Smaller guns malfunction more with the smallest amount of extra motion.
I've had a 938 for several years now without any issues what so ever. I have the BRG version with the black rubber grips and extended mag with finger rest. I have smaller hands but the grips fit very well and are very comfortable.
Concealed Carry Channel,
I believe I have some information about this issue. I bought a new 938 Ambi and has issues with the last round not chambering and it was spit out of the gun. Before returning it back to Sig for warranty repair I loaded the mag’s with snap caps and cycled the rounds. I noticed the last round didn’t have a witness mark on it. All other rounds had the mark. This confirmed the mag springs were weak not able to keep pressure on the last round to engage the dimple on the bottom of the slide. If you’ve removed a loaded mag and the round ready to go into the chamber falls out it was pushed by the dimple. The frame is made to accommodate the round being pushed forward.
Sig replaced mag springs and polished the feed ramp. Problem solved no other issues and very reliable.
Best of luck
Mines been perfect for Year's, Has never misfired or failed. EDC
Yet, I’ve carried this exact Sig 938 “Rosewood” for over a decade RELIABLY as my EDC with the Factory extended mags in a Desantis leather mini scabbard holster! I just recently switched back to a revolver; the Kimber K6s 357 magnum that’s beautifully crafted with night sights and 6-shot capabilities I carry in a leather Desantis paddle holster now as my EDC. I still keep my 938 9mm will fit in any pocket and it was expensive at purchase but so were both my pistols mentioned. I am a firm believer in “You get what you pay for!” But this little Sig has been a great gun for me! I’d like to get a velcro ankle holster and carry as a backup will be my next purchase! I’m a Kimber man and wanted the Kimber Raptor Micro 9 to match my Kimber 1911 Pro Raptor ll in 45 acp but couldn’t justify paying ALL that money for basically the same pistol as my 938 with ONLY difference being SS and just Beautifully crafted as the Raptor 1911 & rest of their line of firearms.#Sig#938”Rosewood”#9mm#Micro
Thank you so much for posting this follow up. I have this pistol and I love everything about it except for the unreliability aspect. I contacted Sig CS, tried different grain/mfgr ammo, got with the trainer to see if I was limp wristing, etc. I will definitely try changing out the mags.
Just found your channel and grateful for it. Bought a P938, and had a FTF the first time at the range. Only been to the range with it once so we'll see what happens the next time but your videos have been so helpful.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching!
That is strange because my p938 had never had an issue. With my Kimber solo I have to go up to a higher grain to get it to feed properly.
I've had no issues with my recently purchased 938 and it eats my reloads with no problems. I'm curious to know if you ever contacted Sig again letting them know that a competitors mags fixed the problem?
Same here, mine is running great. I run with two spare magazines and love how the little pistol disappears with the correct style of holster.
Seems to be a common issue with these P938 and P238 guns. My P238 was having failure to feed issues periodically during the first 200 rounds with a couple types of ammo. I ended up polishing the feed ramp and giving it a good cleaning/oiling between range visits and it has become reliable since. I just bought a Springfield 911 mag and it fits just like the Sig unit, so I am going to test that out too. Also have a couple sets of Magguts springs/followers on the way to try.
I have the exact same pistol and have never had a malfunction. Hundreds of rounds of perfection. Sucks that you got one with bad clips. Love this gun. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have this gun…and bought two more for my daughters. Flawless performance, dead accurate, super easy to conceal. At least a thousand rounds through them each, before the ammo shortage. I have a lot of weapons; this is my favorite carry pistol, hands-down.
Just picked mine up new from an older gentleman who was cleaning out his collection. Fired about 100 rounds through all 4 7round mags that I got with the gun. Not one jam, made sure to clean and lube it prior to firing and then again after a short break in of 100 rounds.
I've had my P938 and used both the flush and extended magazines from Sig. I cannot remember if I've ever had a problem. It's snappy, but for close quarters it's my EDC. I also use the Ruger LCR 327 Federal
I love this little gun. It shoots well for its size and I shoot it a lot. Happy to say that it has never failed.
Wow... I'm shocked to stumble across this review... I've had mine for years and years now. Infact it was my only gun for a while. I've fired thousands of rounds from the cheapest ammo I can get my hands to the pricey hollow points and I've never had even one round fail. 👍🏼
Mine runs great, my only issue is that the magazine release spring is rather weak and will eject the magazine if I run with the extended magazine when in my ankle holster.
I have the same gun with the same problems, and like you, I had little confidence in its reliability. The biggest issue I had with mine was with using the 7-round magazine. The magazine would almost always eject before it was finished causing a stoppage. Multiple shooters, grip variations etc. no matter, the 7-round magazine was the primary issue. The 6-round magazines didn’t have this problem. I also couldn’t use any ammo less than 124 gr bullet weight. As long as I used at least 124 gr FMJ or JHP and I stuck to the 6-round magazines I was fine. So in the end I went back to carrying my Kahr PM9. I like the idea of the P938 but not enough to trust mine.
I have four 938’s and have had zero issues with any of them, but all I use are the flush, six round mags, to keep the grip profile as short as possible.
@@gregshock Your comments got me thinking about the issues I’ve had with my 2013-vintage P938. One observation I could make was that the original 7-round magazines I bought (3) all have problems ejecting prematurely and by comparison I have 4 original 6-round magazines that work just fine. I like this gun; I want to make it work. Just upgrading the magazine release and spring (Gen II from Midwest Gun Works) did not fix my 7-round magazine problem. A couple of weeks ago I decided to try it again, and I bought a new 7-seven round magazine. What I noticed with the new magazine is that there are slight design differences in the current 7-round magazine. Most notably on the left side of the magazine (looking down range so to speak) there is a small dimple located on the top near the follower. There may be other changes not obvious to me. I guess my real point is this magazine works fine, no issues.
@@yellowboxster06: I hope you get your issues resolved. These little Sigs are really nice guns, if you don’t really mind running around with 6+1 bullets in your gun. I like the new higher cap micros, too, like the SP365 or the Taurus GX4, but most of the time, 7 rounds is enough and way better than nothing. Another thing. I read before that the early 938’s were sometimes problematic, whereas they worked out all the bugs from the later guns.
Well I've had my new P938 Legion 4 months now, 500 rounds of FMJ & JHP, the last 200 were JHP, I've not had a single malfunction. I've watch your P938 videos at least twice (I watched several other channels also). I did see the reports of the two piece guide rod coming apart but those seemed to be earlier versions, I immediately found the original Sig replacement ONE PIECE rod and have it as a backup, as mine it still tight. I'm actually thinking of getting a another P 938 in a couple of months.
Looks like I may be the only other person to have magazine issues with the 938. On the short magazine, I occasionally get a partial ejection of the magazine at the same time I get a FTF. It doesn't happen often, but it's enough to keep me from carrying it as my primary weapon.
I'm shock with all the issues I'm hearing from people. Amazing the KImber magazines work. I have the Legion version and had no issues what so ever but it's strange to hear issues with the regular version.
Mine stovepiped several rounds per mag new out of the box. Sent it in, they put a new extractor in it and it ran fine ever since. Took a good while to rebuild trust but it’s my edc now.
Mine was having a problem with the magazines coming out during firing. Or, if my pinky was wrapped under the magazine, it would pop out ever so slightly and the slide wouldn't pick up a round.
Solution: New upgraded mag catch from Sig after they found and fixed this very common issue. They enlarged the shelf that the mag's catch slot rests on. I have yet to try Kimber mags yet, but it's so secure now that I imagine even promag magazines would work.
I’ve heard of this problem before and I have this gun and experienced the same thing. The workaround that solved the issue for me was higher grain ammo. 120+ will avoid the issue.
Interesting! Thinking in a similar way, I purchased a new Sig extended mag hoping the problem would go away, but it didn't. I'll give the Kimber mag a try.
Experienced several makes that a few mags from a batch didn't feed well at all. Every one of them needed taken apart and cleaned of production fluids inside. With evaporation they become sticky and won't feed properly. Never added any oil to any mag.
Mine came with the 7 round mag and the flush mag and neither have gave me any problem with any kind of ammo and I’ve shot damn near every kind I can find!! I also have the hogue style grip with the finger groves but made by sig on it as well as the crimson trace made by dog laser and I carry this baby daily! Thanks for the videos keep them coming !!
Bought one a few years ago, love it now. Had one issue though, had to slam the mag in because the mag release spring was extremely tight, got it fixed, was an easy fix too, just switched it out with a looser full size 1911 spring and cut it down to fit🤷🏻♂️. Love it to this day😅
Here’s something crazy. My 938 malfunctions with Kimber mags due to the follower hanging up on the mag release but my Sig mags work OK. Sad thing is the Kimber mags are much more affordable than Sig mags. The 938 can be finicky in my opinion.
I have had mine for years, no issues ever! All comments seem to say the same. Weird you seem to be one of the only people with an issue
All I can say, my SIG P938 Sport runs flawless with the flush 6 rounder it came with, the 7 round magazine too, plus the 2 xtra 7 rounder extender mags I bought later all work fine. Sorry that you're experiencing this from such a fine Brand such as SIG SAUER.
It would be interesting to know if it's the magazine body or the spring or the follower. What happens when you put the Kimber follower in the Sig magazine body?
I have a P938 that runs flawlessly on Sig mags , however I ran into this same problem with a M+P Shield in 40 S&W . I had to file material of the mag nearest the ramp . Problem solved unless I load Fiocchi 170 grain. That even choked my Sig 250 . Change up the ammo before mailing it back to Sig, they never find the problem.
I had same problem with my p938.the rounds in a full magazine didn't have the correct attitude to be fed correctly.only way I could get the rounds to stay down at the front was to lightly pinch the front area of the feed lips until desired effect was accomplished.i find this common these days with odd calibers and aftermarket magazines.i did use my sig mags though.good luck!
I'm gonna try this. Mine cycles fine but when eject a loaded magazine, the first round pops out
I want to say there was an issue with the mag release on earlier models of the 938/238? My dad and brother had them and I think both sent them to Sig to have the releases replaced because it would ever so slightly drop the mag after a few rounds and FTF. I have a newer gen of this and have yet to have any of these issues thankfully!
That is really crazy! I have a 938 and I am reticent to carry it. Mine ran good on FMJ but stuff like Hornady critical defense no-dice. It’s an expensive micro pistol to own and have it not run! I never thought it might be the magazine, that’s very interesting. I don’t have those Kimber mags but it would probably be worth trying one. So they are for the micro nine and one called an EVO? Definitely gonna try that. The 938 would be awesome for deep concealment if you could trust it. By the way, mine is really super accurate for what it is, that was surprising, also. Thanks for this tip, sir! Worth a go in my estimstion.
I frankly love my P238, it is extremely accurate and has flawlessly fired ffmj and jhp. At first Sig had growing pains that I know of....I hadn't heard anyone give P938 a bad review
I was surprised when it happened. I love my SIGs!
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel seriously thank you for your experience, I have been debating on getting a P938, and if I do I'll definitely remember that Kimber mags fit
@@christopherbishop4927 You are most welcome. Thanks for supporting the channel.
Having the same issues
One thing I do with any gun that has FTF issues is I swab out the springs for Wolf X-tra power springs. I bet it was the springs and not the mag body.
I bought a 938 that was a popular range rental for a few years. I won't bore you with all the things wrong with it but it had a failure similar to the one you described. I cleaned and replaced springs as needed and fixed the other problems. When the gun was cycling, as the new shell was lloaded, the shell beneath was pulled forward. When the gun tried to extract the shell, the shell that was forward interferred with the travel and the extractor pulled off the lip of the shell and the gun was jamed. Again I tried a lot of things and kept logs of the results. I did replace the extractor and its spring with a new one from Sig. I did not have any Kimber mags and frankly never thought of that. I tried to get a stronger extractof spring and was unable to find one. The gun still had 10 of more failes to cycle for each box of shells. I took the old extractor spring and stretched it a little less than 1/8 inch. The extractor was tought to reinstall with the extra spring pressure. According to my log, i now have had 950 rounds with no failures. That is a mix of range and critical defence ammunition. After, the 950, I shot 400 rounds of steel. It never failed but it did break the little tail off the extractor after about 200 rounds. I did replace the extractor and have shot 200 rounds or so with no failures. I decided that steel in these small guns was a stretch. I did find other fixes that fixed the cycle problem but they caused other unccceptable problems.
I have this same problem with mine. The second round is pushed forward when the first round is chambered, which causes all kinds of problems. When I eject the magazine the top round ejects from the magazine and falls down the well. When shooting get ftf constantly.
Used Kimberly Micro mags with 8 rounds for the longest time and never had an issue!
I have a 938. The issue I have is when I am firing the gun the magazine falls out. I thought it was the way I was holding it. Tried one handed and the magazine still fell out. One of the range officers thinks it could be the magazine release spring. He noticed as you eject the magazine it ejects rapidly. He said think about when there are bullets in the mag weighing it down. I will try the new heavy spring and if not just try the kimber mag. But yes, for a very expensive conceal gun its disappointing that we have to do any adjustments.
I had the same problem, I removed the magazine release spring and stretched it out a bit. That seems to have fixed the problem on my sig. My magazines don't fall out anymore
I have the same gun. I use Sig mags. No issues in 5+years.
Same issue but different pistol ... I have a Sig P220 that wouldn't feed 45ACP from the stock mags. Bought some aftermarket MagPro magazines and my P220 eats everything except semi wadcutters. Oddly enough, my P938 has had absolutely no problems eating ball or hollowpoint ammo with the stock magazines.
Well I've carried mine now for about 5 years and I have to say my grip screws one fell out first time shooting it then I fixed that and blue lock tight is your friend
Recently my front fiber sight fell out but some super glue its back in action
All and all it never jams,its always accurate and nothing is stock at this point, spring,barrel, grip, light,trigger,hammer, all aftermarket even the firing pin
Thanks. I have the same exact gun with the same problem and also sent to sig twice. It pisses me off that they know these have this issue and basically deny it and blame malfunctions on user error. I was just about to sell it but maybe I’ll try this first. Then again idk because I definitely don’t trust it anymore. I used to like Sig but anytime they respond to a gun issue it’s always in the form of denying the issue exists.they do it with the P320 as well. So I’m done with Sig.
weird. I never had any problems with mine.
Only time I ever had issues with mine was due either mags being filled to max capacity or rounds not set all the way back into mags. 🤷♂️
Thank you so much for this. I have been having the same problem. I thought I was doing something wrong. Does anyone have a link to buy this magazine?
I have a Kimber 8rd magazine and it works great with the 938.
I was wondering if the Kimber 7rd magazine works?
Nice follow up. I can’t say it enough, I love this gun. Bought mine at a pawn shop, had the flush fit mag and 3 extended mags for $600, had the box and holster that I replaced but it was serviceable…all the normal stuff. So for a small 9mm made by Sig, I figured it was worth a roll of the dice.
I’m typically a revolver man. Just a choice, I think they are sexier. But more often than not, I grab the p938 to go somewhere, and that says a lot. It’s just so easy to carry and shoots really well. 7 shots are really all I feel I’ll need and so it’s a good platform that is very much like a 1911. Just tiny
FYI: I had issues with another gun's magazines that was caused by the magazine's lip just touching the extractor. This prevented the slide going into battery. The gun is a Kahr CW45 with a Kimber magazine. Its lip was too high for the CW45's extractor to clear. By lightly sanding (200 grip paper) the lip, the magazine now totally clears the extractor. I notice on some 1911 slides, the extractor sits high on the slide where in other 1911 frames, the extractor sits low. This is the problem in using off brand magazines. Your description, however, is the opposite. The Kimber magazine works where the Sig doesn't. I'd check the Sig magazine for clearance when the extractor slides over the magazine.
(I have a P238 and I'm currently leaning on getting a P938. I bought the P238 before the P938 was marketed by Sig, otherwise, I would have gotten the P938.)
Had a 938 in fact I still do. It’s been in my rotation for several years. I tested it after well over a month of pocket carry in a holster and it ate a full load of federal hst hollow points with no issues at all. One thing I stress constantly is constant maintenance, I generally service my carry guns monthly or before extended storage. I also use small amounts of oil on mag followers. Do that and you’ll eliminate a number of things that can jam your gun
My 938 is an outstanding firearm!!
Can you tell us what the difference in height is with that extended mag in there? How much the extended mag adds to the height. Thank you!
Check the magazine opening do they measure the same as the kimber? I had a couple extend mags where the top lips were pinched in at the front. Also on extended mags I had contact on the black extension peace at rear, hitting the heal of the mag well frame. Once cleared the mag would lock in to position much easier. O more feed problems. A shame what I thought was a higher level product has such problems. I am going to get a kimber mag asap.
maybe 2-3 times per hundred rounds my p238 will stovepipe or fail to go fully into battery no matter the ammo or mags no sure what to do
It's rumored that the first four years of production, the 9mm version of this gun used " 380 feed ramps"..
I've no idea why a 380 feed ramp would be different than a 9mm , but this what's been said.. people with 938s after the 4th year seem to love their pistol. And those first 4 years are plagued with problems.
The issue I have and why I won't own a new sig, is because of their garbage customer service and even worse quality control..
I just bought the 938 SAS. Maybe it’s because the magazines are so new the springs are so tight it causes the gun to double feed between the third and the sixth round every time
That's really bizarre. Glad it worked out. Love my 938.
I am scardd of dropping this kind of money on kimber 9 or sig, when i has ssen so many problems and returns to factory. I bought a kahr k9 and the ejector assembly flew off it injuring my hand on round 20. It is currently at factory.
Any suggestions?
My wife has a P938 nightmare , we've never had a problem with it.
I say it was a combination of your the ammo you used didnt like the magazines. Never had any issues with mine.
Just bought a Kimber micro 9 magazine for my sig p938 SAS. The magazine doesn’t fit at all. My 938 jams every 3rd or 4th round. I sent it back to Sig this morning
Springfield 911 magazines work as well. And are a lot cheaper than Sig magazines.
Wondering if you tried multiple brands of ammo with the same malfunction result.
Everything I could get. 8 different kinds in total. It was strange because all of my other SIGs perform flawlessly.
Now that you have an extended mag…
You have a longer effective grip on this gun now with another finger around the grip.
More stable/firm purchase than with fewer fingers on the shorter grip.
Less grip/leverage could lead to somewhat of a limp wrist effect.
Why didnt you use a Sig extended grip that most of these 938’s came with for your evaluation?
I’ll bet you the 7 round Sig mags would give you better results just like the non-Sig mags did.
How about doing Sig a solid and test their extended mags out?
And, to eliminate the possibility that its just your technique, let someone else shoot a couple hundred rounds through it with the 6 round mags from Sig.
I suspect that the results might surprise you.
One note. I had a similar feed issue and as soon as I went to some hotter ammo, better but not +p, (maybe +p would help, it is a Sig, should take it, but just an opinion)feed issues went away. Those guns have a very stiff spring- try the dissembly. After a few mags of hotter stuff, it fed the normal stuff just fine. Just wear it in.
Mine hasn’t failed me yet and have had it for over 9 years….
Very interesting. Sig seems to have mag problems, I just bought a 320 and the mags only hold 12 rds wtf. Seems like the mags are made all over the place..?
I have the Sig 938 and have never any problems with the pistol or the Sig mags. I like it when I need something really compact. I bought several Kimber mags because they were much more affordable and the work as well. Another pistol along the lines of the Sig 938 is the Smith and Wesson CSX in 9MM. I am going to purchase the S&W CSX, when I find one local, and if it is as reliable as my 938 I will carry the S&W to get more capacity (10 + 1 and 12 + 1). The S&W CSX may be worth a look. Anyway, thank you for the video.
Hope you didn't waste the money on a CSX. I did, an got rid of that thing almost immediately.
Got the 238 over 1000 rounds no issue every manufacturer kicks out a dud once in a while
938 IS NY NUMBER ONE CARRY "I LOVE THE GUN " MY 938 HAS HAD NO PROBLEMS , I DO HAVE A KIMBER MAG AND THE END THAT EXTENDS THE GRIP IS EVEN LONGER THEN WHAT YOU HAVE AND YES THE EXTENDED MAGS ARE A LOT NICER FOR HAND COMFORT , SIG ALSO HAS THE EXTENDED MAGS , I HAVE NEVER HAD A MAG THAT HAS GIVEN ME ANY PROBLEM SO JUST THROW AWAY THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT AND BE HAPPY YOU SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM.
If you find my comment (from less than a half hour ago) on your original post, I suggested the possibility that the short grip on the P938 my create, effectively, a limp wrist; not because the wrist was limp, but because the missing pinky finger couldn't leverage the recoil. I suggested this because I am a very small individual with small hands, and my 938 works with both magazines, flawlessly. Your Kimber magazine (if I am correct, which would be a first...), since it is longer, permits you to have more leverage on the bottom of the grip. If you test both magazines (Sig and Kimber) with friends with small hands, you may find your solution there. I hope this works for you, because, from your description in this video, I think my conjecture was correct; your hands are too big to get purchase on the bottom of the grip frame, unless augmented by a longer magazine. Best wishes.
Sorry you are having problems. Maybe I got a good one by luck but mine has worked very well. I hope you find the cure.
I have the 938 legion, zero ftf or any issues in over 1000 rounds. Love my 938.
The springfield 911 mags work great and are 1/2 the price
If it makes you feel any better, in five years and 5000 rounds, I've never had a failure to feed. Though no feed issues, the plastic collar at the base of the 7rd mags became too easily displaced, preventing the mag from being locked in the well. Epoxy, and some add-on slam pads glued directly to the mag baseplates have fixed it. I haven't seen/heard a single review of the P938 mentioning the problem with the 7rd extension collar, but all three of my 7-rounders failed in the same way, after about 300 rounds through each, and it's a real death jam, as the mag has to be withdrawn, collar slipped up and off the top of the tube, then the mag can be reinserted.
Why not use the longer Sig mag?
Hi and. Thanks for your thoughts.... How does your safety lever operate? Mine is very stiff, almost to the point of moving the pistol or the weapon to get better leverage in order to toggle it. This is both to engage and dis engage. Is yours smooth and comfortable to toggle? Thanks.
I've had mine for about 6 years.... never had an issue! Love this gun, and I've put hundreds of rounds through it. Guess... just every once in a while you can get unlucky with any type of pistol.
Looks better with the Kimber mag. I have the micro kimber 9mm and love it.
Sorry about the trouble with yours, but no such bad luck with mine yet! So far, mine has been a sweet little shooter.
Have you tried the p938 mags in the Kimber pistol
to see if they will shoot ?
Gentlemen..... it's not just the mag... it the mag in THAT GUN. Multifactorial with a interaction of that gun with those mags. I had a Glock 30S that did the same thing.
You do know Sig makes extended magazines as well?
Late review, but I have not had any problems with my P938 Equinox. I hav e on e flush standard mag and three Sig extended mags and have no malfunctions in well over 700 rounds. I pounded the hell out of this weapon in prep for the CCW qual every week for over a month without cleaning and lub, and it functioned without a single issue!
I’ve owned a P938 for 7 years, and never had a problem. I use the Sig flush and extended versions. 🤷🏼
Never had a single issue with my Sig P938 that I bought 9 years ago. However, the P238 I bought this year is a piece of crap
The funny thing is the only thing I changed on my Kimber Custom II 1911 was the mag to Wilson Combat. Kimber is known to have shitty mags, but I guess they're still better than Sig factory mags.
You can’t use just any Micro9 7-round mag. I bought a used, as-new, P938 that will not fire two consecutive rounds - ever. Semi-smokestack failures to eject. Inspired by your video I shopped online for a Micro9 mag and found none like yours that has 2 cutouts for the mag latch - one on each side of the mag. The only models I could find with extensive shopping have just one such cutout, located variously on one side or the other of the mag. Buy the wrong one and the mag cannot lock into place and will just drop out. If the mag swap doesn't work I'll just have to send the gun to Sig and hope for the best.
Had mine since it first came out, it ate every ammo you can put through it.
Every time is see a video like this I am surprised. I got my p938 Equinox about 6 years ago. I use five different magazines all Sig - two flush 6 rounds and three extended 7 rounders. I have my 938 to run flawlessly with all of the Sig magazines and it will run any and all ammo including aluminum case and my own reloads.
I have had these problems constantly with this pistol. Strangely the only ammo I have never had any kind of feed problem with is aluminum cased ammo (federal)... Go figure. I want to try a Kimber micro 9 mag but noticed they are available in 6,7, and 8 round capacity. Which one fixed your feed problems or would any work? This gun, great on so many ways, has been nothing but a waste of money. If a Kimber mag can fix it I def want to try it asap... Would love to be able to trust this pistol enough to carry. Sending it back to sig was a total waste of time... Sig will never admit they have a defective gun. Thanks
I purchased the Kimber micro 9 8 round and just went through 75 rounds without a problem. So far it fixed this jammer
Thx for update. I have the same problems with my sig shooting hollow points. My p938 can not finish a clip without having a feed jam. I’m sending my gun to sig to review, but I’m afraid there gonna tell me the same thing as they told you. I have not seen any recall on clips. Let’s see what they say.
*magazine
The Kimber micro 9 8 round mag fixed it!!!!!