Bought my P938 about three years ago. It came with two mags, one with the extended pinky extension. It has been very reliable. ZERO misfires, stove piping or hang fires. Accuracy at 25 yards is amazing. Mild recoil with standard 9mm and VERY easy to rack the slide to chamber a round, unlike every other sub compact semi auto I’ve tried. I love it.
Your experience with the P938 is virtually the exact opposite of my experience. Easy to conceal, however, persistent FTEs and sharp recoil even with prescribed two handed grip are the norm. Take down and reassembly is more difficult than necessary. Local respectable gunsmith could not find a problem with the pistol.
Yea, I have the p938 sas too that I bought new. Mine definitely came with the flush mag and extended mag. Also, regadless of it came with an extra mag or not, saying you won't carry a $700 gun because it didn't come with an extra $20 mag is a bit much. I've shot handloaded light loads, freedom munitions factory reloaded, gold dot, high powered self drfense rounds, and just random bulk 9mm from whatever brands... Never had a single issue. It's definitely snappy and not a good range toy, but you're buying a tiny 9mm, it's going to be much more snappy than say a glock 17 lol. People complaining that it's both too snappy and has feed issues.. seems like a very overlapping vinn diagram... I bet people are limp wristing and the gun isn't cycling
I have a p938 with hogue oversized grips. This is a great gun. I have on order a p938 legion. I can't wait to get this gun also. Sig makes a great weapon. I carry mine everyday.
I've has my sig 938 since right came out. Mine came with a extended magazine & the small magazine. I've shot Mine over 500 times absolutely NO malfunctions. I carry it every day all day. Mine came with a rubber grip. The grip is very comfortable. Wouldn't trade it for the world. Great edc gun. I love mine.
I've owned my P938 SAS since May, 2015 (and still have the sales receipt in the storage case). I carry it daily, and I frequent the range with it. In my experience, I haven't had any issues with mine, at all.
My p938 mag keep falling out🤣. I had to get a enhance spring. And my p238 have primer strike issue once every time I goto the range. My new p238 trigger pull is like 9.5lb!
I too have owned the extreme model and carry it everyday. I carry a flush mag and at 15 yards I can shoot a fist size group every time. You have to practice with your carry gun. In reality, most civilian shootings happen within 3 feet, fire 3 rounds and last 3 seconds. consider that when choosing a CC gun.
I also have a "Redwood " handled P938 with a seven round Sig magazine. After owning and shooting it many years without any problems it began having occasional failure to feed problems on the same ammunition I have practiced with for years. I tried other brands with the same failure to feed issues recurring. Over time the failure to feed issues worsened becoming more frequent i.e. several failures in a single magazine. Eventually the magazine itself began ejecting completely out of the pistol while half loaded. After much online research the problem ended up being a worn magazine release spring. I replaced the spring at home easily with a red colored" heavy duty" magazine release spring from Midwest Gun Works. It solved all the problems without the need to replace the original Sig 7 round magazine. The gun function is now rock solid. Multiple attempts to induce a failure to feed with rapid fire "magazine dumps" have failed to reproduce the problem. Nice to have my old friend back !
This is my EDC & has been for several years. I presently own 2 of them, each is mounted with a laser. I trust it to protect my life. I also purchased one for my daughter to carry, which she does every day. When each of these were bought they ALL came with both an extended mag & the shorter mag. These mags NEED to be broken-in to loosen the springs!! I loaded the mags & left them loaded for 3 days. I then loaded & unloaded them several times. Since then I've had 0 failures. Each also came with hard wooden grips AND rubber grips with finger grooves. I use the rubber grips for general shooting practice & OWB carry. I use the hard wood grips for pocket carry (which I much prefer). FABULOUS GUN!!
You answered my question before I even asked it. I have a very difficult time reloading my magazine for my P938. I have to break it in like you did. My favorite was my H&K 4. I don't think it could have been improved upon....I loved it!
I purchased my 938 about 2 years ago. it was the LEGION model. it was a definite improvement from yours. it cams with 3 magazines holding 7 rounds each, it had a g10 grips, Anextension at the bottom of the grips that would have taken care of your pinky. it is a MICRO pistol. I have put hundreds of rounds down range and have NEVER had a an issue with ammo, stovepipe, etc, etc , etc...... .you should have looked at the legion version.my pistol was a little over 700$ bucks....well worth It
Mine also came with the extended magazine. I’ve had mine for over 12 years and thousands of rounds and never had a fail. Needless to say, I love this gun. It’s been an accurate shoot since day one, and I’ve highly recommended it to many of my friends.
Mine stovepiped every magazine on the fifth round when I first got it so I sent it back, they replaced the ejector and ejector spring and it’s run 100% reliably ever since. Mine has the rubber hogue style grips and came with an extended magazine. I’ve carried it every day in every season for about 10 years now, it took me some time to trust it completely due to the failure to eject issue so I can understand your apprehension. You already have a lot of money into it but it might be worth it to pop for an extended magazine and see it resolves the fail to feed problem, it’d also give that third finger something to grip.
After about the fourth magizine at the range - fired a round, and the slide stop flew out of the gun. I never had a failure like this. Standard pressure ammo. I bought this so called " like new" condition, but maybe the previous owner messed it up.
My mother owns this pistol. She had a few malfunctions to begin with but they were user errors not the pistol. I will be honest I am not a Sig guy by any means, however, after shooting this yesterday 50 rounds of Blazer 115GR FMJ I feel comfortable carrying this pistol. Three pinky extension 7 rd mags only load six in each one in the chamber cocked and locked. Carrying it as we speak!
Did some work on my P938 and it runs like a champ…M-Carbo spring kit, Tillamook Precision steel trigger, Hogue rubber grips with finger grooves, extended mags with pinky hold, heavy magazine release spring from Midwest Gunworks, left-side only safety (OEM, P238 fits fine)…enough DIY work that it took all the fiddly stuff with this gun and pretty much eliminated it. Takes a lot of getting used to when it comes to assembly and disassembly (there’s lots of stuff you can do to literally render the gun unshootable if you’re not careful), but once you’re familiar and know what to look out for (don’t put the safety on when disassembled, don’t over-depress the extractor when you’re putting the slide back on, don’t accidentally launch the slide release spring, don’t put the takedown pin in the wrong hole when putting the gun back together), you have yourself an amazing carry gun that’s more than worth the effort. For what it’s worth, I chose the P938 over the Kimber Micro 9…just felt it was a more solid option…and I wouldn’t own a Glock if Glock was the only gun mfg. in the world…lol. As for feed failures, the only issues I’ve had have been mag related…in general I find the magazines to be kind of janky/chintzy and I did have a magazine whose base plate that wanted to press out when the mag was full…it was for sure a mag issue tho I did replace the magazine release spring (heavied it up, as I said). Carry wise, I run an Urban Carry lock leather for OWB, a HAWG Holster for those rare occasions I run IWB and, indeed, I LOVE the DeSantis pocket holster (I have one for my P938 and one for my wife’s Walther PPK/S).
I tried the MCarbo spring kit and had several light strikes in the first couple of magazines. Changed ammo and the problem still occurred. I put the OEM springs back in.
I've had my p938 for a few years and have ran both target and self defense rounds through it with zero issues also mine came with the extended magazine
When I bought mine it came with 2 mags, 1 flush fit 1 extended. Mine also came with the rubber grip with finger grooves a little bulky but you get a nice grip on it. Great little gun I still carry it. I’ve taken it to the range a handful of times with no problem even with carry ammo. 👍I hope Sig takes care of the problem for you.
I bought a P238 when it was new and added a P938 when it came along. The 238 had a lot of problems when new and needed a couple hundred rounds and lubrication before it smoothed out. The 938 was similar but never smoothed out like the 238. The gun was designed for the .380 and when adopted for 9mm I suspect the heavier spring made the gun require an even firmer grip to cycle properly. As far as the hand grip, the 7 round mag seems to solve that on both pistols. This gun is perfect size for the .380 cartridge but a little too small for 9mm.
I thought this might be a video trashing all P938 pistol, but you are just saying your P938 has reliability issues so you won't carry it. Don't blame you. Two other things that you mention are the lack of finger grooves and the fact it didn't come with an extended mag. That's on you though. You could have did what I did and bought the BRG model P938 that comes with Hogue rubber grips and two extended "pinky" mags. Thankfully my pistol has ran flawlessly for 200 rounds now. Be safe.
I own the P238. I’ve owned it for over a year and never shot it. In fact never owned a pistol before. I finally got to shoot it the other day. I took it out loaded the magazine and began shooting. I ended up shooting about 100 rounds And never had a problem. The first 50 rounds were terrible I could barely hit the target. By the end of the hundred rounds I was hitting the paper plate we were using four or five out of the seven rounds in my mag. So far very pleased with the P2 38 and looking forward to shooting a couple hundred more rounds soon. By the way we were at 50 feet. Now I’m very pleased since you mentioned you train at 21 feet. 😊
I have a P938 Extreme that came with both mags, G10 grips, and SigLite sights. It’s light, accurate, and reliable. Also have a P238 that’s been a great shooter, too. I think you need to run these wetter than normal, at least until they’re worn in a little. But I don’t recall any feed issues on either of these pistols.
My wife and I each have a 938 . Initially I had an issue with the magazine releasing while firing . Sig solved the problem. We both have had zero problems since . It is my favourite summer carry handgun . When wearing heavier clothing I prefer my HK P30sks .
2 piece guide rod. Mine came apart 2nd time at the range. Shot out of the front of the gun and I was unaware it happened, the gun still functioned. Got home to clean the gun and the front of the guide rod was missing. Found out this is not uncommon to happen to the 938. Called Sig and the sent a new guide rod. I was planning to take it apart, unscrew it, and reassemble using red lock tight. I was not able to budge it so I figure Sig had already addressed the issue with red lock tight or something else. Gun has performed flawlessly since that episode.
I bought my sig P938 BRG 10 yrs ago, it came with 1 6rnd mag and 1 7rnd mag pinky extension. I bought 2 more 7rnd. I was experiencing the same failures as you are having with every single mag I had. I sent it to sig and they replaced the main spring in the rear of the grip, sent it back to me and I haven't experienced any more failures. It has run like a sewing machine since. I have large hands and I love this pistol with the +1 extended mag. I hope this helps, it really is an amazing micro 9mm.
I have 2 that I have been shooting for about 10 years. This is a great a gun with no issues. Most comfortable small gun that I have shot. Great trigger with low recoil. The sister 308 is also a great gun. Many members of my gun club carry one and all love them.
Bought this for my wife yesterday. Bought it new from the gun store for $650. Came with one 7 round mag. I bought an extra mag while I was there. We first rented a few guns for her to try. I carry an HK p2000 and that was way to big for her. We rented the sig 365, sig p938, S&W shield and one J frame for fun. She settled on the 938. She loved it! Shooting all those guns made me realize the sig 938 had the least amount of snap when shooting. It came down between the 365 and the 938 and the 938 was just a bit more smooth. My wife is a 1911 shooter . She seems to do excellent when shooting one so the 938 has very similar 1911 features which made it very attractive to shoot. Great gun.
I've had mine for about 6 years, put 6,000+ rounds through it. I had a handful of failures to feed in the beginning, but it hasn't happened since before the first 1,000 rounds. I love this thing and trust it with my life. The extended magazine is definitely a must-have for a good grip. With that, it feels like it was tailor made for my hand.
I have both micro 9 and 2 938s one being a legion, the kimber magazine works in the sig and are less expensive and they make 8 round ones. The only problem with the standard 938 is the plastic trigger that can break at the pivot, mine did at 1500 rounds. The micro 9 has a metal trigger stock as does the legion 938. Carry one every day and shoots great.
I’ve owned an Sig p938 SAS and carry it everyday. It conceals great, it shoots very accurately, it’s reliable, no misfires, no failure to feed. It’s better than my Glock 43x.
Well I purchased the Legion version, it came with 3 extended 7 round mags, the first of September 2023, 500+ rounds threw it with zero issues or malfunctions. That's with range and defensive HP's. I also got a nice gun bag and coin for "free" a couple of weeks later after registration with Sig. Sorry your experience wasn't so good, maybe try different ammo.
I have a P938 with FTF’s. Mine was an issue with tolerances. The slide was hanging up on the top of the barrel at full recoil just a bit. I polished both surfaces, applied extra lube, went back to the range and it works 100% now.
I have owned a carries mine for over 5 years and have shot everything in it including +P with no issue. It may be the magazine follower I have had to adjust mine on certain magazines but after that nibissues
I have had NO issues of any kind after 600 rounds. Mine came with a Sig branded laser and two 7-round magazines. It is (after swapping the hammer spring and the firing pin spring) absolutely the finest pistol I have shot. I'm sorry that you are experiencing issues, I hope you get your problems resolved and gain enough confidence to carry it.
I have 2 938 had same problem found out it was one of the mags. It was one of the 6 round mag that comes with the gun so I bought all 7 round Mags with a pinky extension on it . Problem solved
I’ve got the Springfield Armory 911 in .380 ACP, essentially the same design made by a competitor. Had it for 3 1/2 years now. There are a couple of other guns I carry now and again but this is what I carry 90% of the time. First couple hundred rounds I was having some failures to go into battery and light primer strikes. After that, it was very reliable, with either six or seven round mags. One important thing I learned from a guy who helped run the range I was shooting at had to do with the best way to clean this particular type of pistol. He said don’t use too much CLP-type oily cleaners, but instead use a non oil based cleaner like Birchwood Casey “Gun Scrubber”, especially on the slide assembly. I took his advice and the problems disappeared. I’ve got probably 2000 rounds through it now and as long as I clean it every 100-150 rounds, it is as reliable as the day is long.
I bought a P938 Legion used. Came with 3 7+1 mags (extended). No shooting, feeding, or ejection issues at all. Only issues were 2 of the 3 mags would not hold 7 rounds. I took the mags apart and cleaned them. One of them looked like the spring was reversed. After reassembly, 1 holds 7 the other almost 7 (still working with this one). Purchased 2 more 7 round mags - both easily hold 7. Stippling was a bit aggressive so I put on Talon grips. Love the single action and trigger. Very 1911-ish.
Did you ever get your feed issue fixed? I have a P238 (380ACP version) and experienced some feeding issues. I removed the extractor on the next cleaning session, cleaned all of it up thoroughly, and that fixed it.
I saw your video titled " coolest gun I would NEVER carry" so I had to click on to see why. We purchased our 1st P938 for my wife. She LOVES it. She shoots amazingly well with it and it is comfortable enough that she has no qualms about carrying it, which is the most important factor to me when it comes to her side arm. Well being a South Paw in a right handed world poses lots of different issues and obstacles for us when it come to firearms. (You rightys will never fully understand or comprehend our pain) This weapons ambidextrous feature is 2nd to none. In fact, it is so nice we had no choice other than to purchase our 2nd P938 because the wife got fed up with me always having HER gun. And we are about to purchase a third. Just because. I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rounds of every type of ammo. Standard, personal defense, hollow points, u name it and I have shot it. And I have NEVER, not one time, had any issues or fails from either one of the weapons. I completely understand and would feel the exact same way you do had I had tbe issues you have. When it comes to the well being and safety of my family and loved ones, I DON'T gamble or take risks. I ONLY carry what I can rely on 100%. It's tbe difference between your name being in tbe paper or on a head stone. My suggestion would be get Sig or a very skilled gunny to take a look at it again because I think there is something wrong with yours. I'd bet my life on it.
I have the legion version. I had a few fail to feed so I really cleaned up the feed ramp. Once I did that I’ve gone through maybe 200 rounds no issue. It came with 3 7 rd mags and I bought an extra
Mine came with both the regular and extended mag out of the box. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it with no failures. Shoots great, nice trigger pull, accurate. Being so small it is a bit more difficult than I'd like releasing the standard mag, not as big a problem with the extended.
Have same gun,with scrolling. Love mine. It came with two mags,regular and extended. Only thing I have had happen,somehow I will inadvertently hit the mag release. Working on that. Operator error,not a weapon problem.
I carried the p938 (SAS model) for 8 years before recently joining the doublestack micro crowd. I still use it for pocket carry occasionally. Mine came with both a flush fit 6 rounder and the 7 rounder with the pinky extension. I never had any feeding issues whatsoever, regardless of magazine or ammo choice.
Bought one of these in 2012 and had some of the similar problems you did at first, including not being able to get through a full mag without a FTF or FTE (usually stovepipe). The first 250 rounds were a stoppage nightmare. Tried multiple types of ammo in different weights and didn't fair much better. I even bought two additional magazines to test with. I thought I had a dud and started to despair that I'd bought an overpriced range toy. Slowly, however, it started working better and better. Basically there were two things I found to help: 1) lube the hell out of it (these guns like to be wet) and 2) repeatedly work the action on an empty gun to bed all the parts together. It looks like Sig's tolerances were too tight out of the gate and everything would just bind up. Today when I disassemble it for cleaning, I can see where the parts have worn in and developed a nice polish. This shouldn't be necessary, but it works. Somewhere after round 300 everything wore in and it's run flawlessly for at least the past 1000+ rounds. Now that I think about it, it's probably time for a new recoil spring...
I dont understznd the recoil spring replacement..i have a beretta 92fc with over 19k rounds and still on same spring. All my other glocks and rugers are well over 5k rounds with no issues. What am i missing?
@@HansZarkovPhD maybe because it is so small , I know the kimber micro 9 recommend spring replacement every 1500 rounds, the kimber and the sig are basically the same so I'm assuming thats what it is about... just a guess
I have to agree with many others, here. Mine runs 100% reliably, all kinds of ammo, including my own cast reloads… rounds, round HPs, SWCs, TCs and my personal favorites.. TC HPs. To be fair, I did get mine used, so I do not know if there were FTFs early in its life, and out of my own habits, I do polish all feed ramps , on all of my semi’s. Since purchasing mine, I was lucky to find, and purchase a .22 conversion kit. Double your pleasure, double your fun ! Also, I do use the extended mag, along with Hogue’s rubber over mold grips, w/ finger grooves. I have large hands, and that combo feels great to me.
I've owned the gun for approximately 3 years and only had the magazine jam one time. For me, it's been a reliable firearm that I carry on a daily basis. A very good reliable weapon easily carried. My only problem is it's only a 6 + 1 so I do carry two magazines when out.
I had an M&P body guard 380 that failed often and the mag would drop out. I sent it to M&P twice very frustrating, never carried and got rid of it. I have had a Legion P938 for over a year now. Up to around 500 or so rounds now with different ammo, has never failed and is very accurate. Still like the 43x best for EDC but the P938 is better size for pocket when needed.
Just purchased the Equinox addition today. Beautiful gun, super excited to get it, and hoping my wife can easily fire it. I will absolutely keep you guys posted on it. Thanks so much for the video..
Mine has a little over 1,000 rounds through it with hallows and round nose bullets. 100% reliable so far. My father bought a 938 and had has issues with his factory 7 round mag dropping out during firing. With other mags including the springfield 911 mags his has been solid. Always test your equipment for the occasional lemon.
I had some failure to feed problems and Sig sent me new magazines saying that the ones that they sent were going to help resolve the problem, and mine came with 1 extended and one short , and Sig replaced both. And yes it will still jam , but less often. top of the line ammo also helped, more powder , more better. I also bent the little spring the first time I took off the slide. you can't just bend it back, you will need it replaced. I let Sig replace it and called it my fault. So be very careful when taking the pin out or in. I wish I had purchased one of the more popular models from the beginning as they don't seem to have any issues. I would say to buy yourself one extended Mag and try it. Good Luck and thanks for a thorough review.
Mine has the finger grooves, I didn't want the one with 1911 style plates. Ad the one I purchased came with the 6 and 7 round page. There's a lot of options, you just have to shop around.
I have a P938 Equinox for my EDC in a Custom OWB Leather Pancake Holster by TTGunleather. Like you said, you forget you have it on and it just disappears even with just a lightweight t-shirt. I purchased 3 extended mags, but can shoot just as well without the extension and I take XL gloves. Have not had an issue while shooting, zero failures. Any brand of gun can get can occasional lemon, even Glocks. During the winter when clothing permits, I will switch to my Kimber Ultra CDP II, another exceptional weapon.
I was just as excited waiting for mine a few years ago. It came with the 7 round magazine with the pinky extension. Even with the extension, I agree the grip is less than comfortable. Overall, however, I love the gun and it is very comfortable to carry. In several years of ownership and various types and brands of ammo there not not been a single failure to feed or any other problem. I just bought a 6 round magazine today and am curious to see if it causes any problems.
I have the exact same model. Grips, sights, everything and have the exact same issue. Mine is from when they first came out so I figured it was just a bug since they were new at the time.
Never had a failure on the 6rd factory magazine. I purchased the 7rd and have had issues with lower quality ammunition. Decent range ammo will work great
I have a 938 and a 238, both work flawlessly. However I use a dry moly lube. I pocket carry, so my pistols fill with lint. After carrying for even 4 months without cleaning , plenty of lint, both pistols fire flawlessly, no failure to eject, no failure to chamber, no failure to fire, flawless.
I have a sig p238 HD stainless. The 9mm version came out 3 months after I bought mine. The two pistols that I own that are the smoothest, most accurate and reliable are my P238 and my Baretta 92fs stainless. They are both bomb proof. One caution on reassembly of the Sig. If you push that little curved pin to far down it can pop down off it's guide and you will have to completely dissemble the handle to put it back in position. It is a very difficult process to do that. Many people would need a gunsmith to reassemble it.
I've never had a feed issue with mine. Also, mine came with two 7 round magazines with extensions. I have the P938 the only difference is I have the rubber grips instead of the rosewood. This was all factory. I carry in a Versacarry Element @ 12 o'clock. Super comfortable.
I had one as well and had multiple problems in feeding. Some history on that gun is that Sig used the 238 platform and basically modified some parts so it would shoot 9 mm. From what I remember, the first generation had extractor problems, Sig modified the gun so it would function. Mine had an issue with the main spring housing. The problem was the housing was polomer and the sear spring was metal. The Sear Spring engaged the housing via a small raised button on the polymer housing. After firing x amount of rounds, The polymer button would causie the sear Spring to separate from the housing. The sig talk forum is a great resource for owners of this gun who have had multiple issues. The last I read about and did not happen to me was guide rods separating from that bass that you referred to as having a U-shaped notch. From the postings on that forum people were saying that the guide rod and the base were two pieces that were threaded. The rod would back itself out and actually would project out from the gun while people were shooting at the range. I have since sold the gun and got myself a P2 38 which I love and have had no issues with all bed it is a step down in ammo because it fires 380 and 9 mm.
I have had mine for almost 10 years. I have the night version that came with the night sights and the rubber grips. Mine also had one seven round magazine. I carry it every day since I have owned it and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger. I own everything from an,NAA .22 to a SW 460. With all my choices, I still pick up my 938. Mine also had a factory holster.
I WISH I could buy a P938. It's what I wanted to buy. Got the P238 instead. With plans to carry it in non-Bear Country as a lil backup pistol for when I've got a deer on the ground, and my hands are bloodied up. So before using it in that capacity I ran all the various lead-free all copper bullets I could find thru it. Have NEVER had a FTE/FTF, EVER. I think I've got about maybe 7 or 800 rds thru it by now. Definitely get yourself the 7rd mags w the pinky extension. Stunned by the accuracy of this little pistol... once YOU master your own body mechanics in terms of shooting a small pistol. Can even keep it in the black of an 8" target @ 25yds. My initial goal was as a pistol for my wife to carry when, for her work, she'd have to travel to satellite offices to handle "employee issues" such as terminations. That P238 was by a noticeable degree, the easiest to rack slide out of any of the .380's I'd tested at the LGS. And the sights!! LOVE THEM!! Big chunky 3-Dot combat night sights that I can even see without my glasses on! So... as soon as the courts can finally B-slap the CA legislature to abolish the dumb Handgun Safety Roster BS.. I'm hoping to get a 938. EDIT: one thing I did right off the bat was opt for an aftermarket guide-rode that has a captured spring to it. Definitely recommend that upgrade as it makes disassembly a breeze.
Ive had the p938 SAS now for 3 years. Had been my EDC for 2 years until I turned to p365. I never had any issues with the firearm no matter what ammo. Love the gun but actually selling it today just because I don't carry it anymore. Mixed emotions
I have a P938 and a P365. I sometimes have failure to feed issues with the P938, but never with the P365. The P365 has a MUCH stronger recoil spring. The P938 has the lightest-strength recoil spring I have ever felt. I also have a tendency to limp-wrist when I shoot (working on that). The lighter spring, coupled with a weak grip, are the reasons for failure to feed. I am chalking it up to 'user error'. I love the gun because it is so small (even smaller than the P365) and I have the new SAS version (slips right into/out of my pocket), but until I train to have a few more range sessions to work on strengthening my grip, I will keep carrying the P365.
Interesting observation. The P938 is on the way back to me as we speak and I’ll get it back to the range for a better result, hopefully. Thanks for watching!
I own my p938 extreme. Mine came with the extended mag and the flush mag have it had many misfeed problems the only problem I had with my pistol is the guide rod screws in to the Head and it kept getting loose so I bought a solid guide rod and put it in and have no worries about it coming out during shooting.
I wonder if the better grip you get with the extended mag helps focus the recoil to run the slide better? I bought a P938 3 months ago and it has well over 700 rounds through it without a single FTFeed, FTE, or FTFire. 115gr Ammo types all over the place due to range ammo being a different brand every week. I have also run Buffalo bore 115gr +P JHPs, Lawman 147Gr Flat nose FMJs, Sig 124gr Ball Ammo, Reloads, blazer JHPs, 124gr +p, and Sig Elite V-Crown 115gr JHP. Sig Elite V-Crown 115 JHP is my carry ammo. I use the 7 round extended magazines. Never tried a 6 round. Maybe that is the issue for you.
Getting old sucks and arthritis and lost of strength worsens ftf and I am about to resort to a small 38 revolver. I have a collection of Sigs incl. 238 and 938s and before I store back in the drawers can you please recommend the most reliable ammo for your 938? Thanks, Bob in Vero.
Mine shoots well only 2 failures at the first time at the range. I took it home cleaned it and gave it a little extra oil than usual and it hasn't had any problems feeding since then but my pin for the slide can wiggle the smallest amount to cause the slide to catch. I'll need to send it in to sig to replace it
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel thats great to hear, they have excellent customer service. I hope you can feel comfortable now carrying it because so far I am in love with mine. You can't beat that small size with a light weight not to mention the accuracy of a 5 in barrel
Have a black chrome engraved 938 owned it maybe 10 years now. Qualified with it ( Sheriffs qualification course) Never a bobble using the SIG extended magazines 7+1 or with the little 6 round. I am a 1911 fan and use these often. In the HOT summer months I use the SIG P938 more often AND its small enough for use as a second or backup pistol as well. Even so its still a good primary at least for me when I want a small yet powerful little gun.
I have the P938 and had the feeding issue! I also had issues when I would chamber a round then dump my mag to top back off with another round, the top round would hold the mag in and fall out when pulling the mag out! I've tried multiple mags and it does it every time! Sig Sauer sent me a new mag to try to resolve the issue, but after further research I've discovered that's the design of the gun and the mag has a spring issue. Kimber Micro 9 and P938 is basically same magazine but one of the two has a weaker spring, not sure which though!
I have had my P938 for several years. I have fired all kinds of practice ammo as well carry ammo. I have never had an issue with misfiring, jamming etc. I have fired 300+ rounds thru it
Have it, Love it. Great video. I am guessing, but the problem may be that your grip may be too light. Experienced shooters will sometimes soften their grip to only what is required to maintain control and accuracy. This pistol wants a firm grip, more than what is required for control and accuracy. Hope that makes sense. This was my experience.
I've only had issues with the Sig self defense ammo. Every second round or so it would fail to feed. Other than that, everything else has never failed me. I own a emperor scorpion TB.
I've owned for 4 years and have had 2 major issues with the slide stop working its way out of the frame enough to lock the slide also the 2 piece guide rod assembly came out of the gun lost in the grass, so even though I love the looks and the controls I cannot in good conscience recommend as a concealed carry I would instead go with a P365 love the accuracy and reliability are exemplary!!!!
I have one and purchased the extended mag at same time. I’ve shot multiple types of factory ammo and several types of my own reloads. Gold dots, Federal Syntech, Hornady XTP, Sierra V Crown and a couple of different FMJ bullets. Several hundred rounds and not a single FTF.
I shot my P938 with the standard magazine and two extended magazines today with each magazine being used twice. So 6 magazines and not a single jam. Yes, I agree, this pistol has its issues with certain types of ammo and so does my Walther PPQ. The only pistol I've that seems to shoot no matter what you load it with is the Glock 17. For the P938, I use Fiocchi rounds and I've zero issues with them.
Mine came with 2 magazines one with the extended grip I did have an issue with fail to feeds. However, I noticed that I needed a good grip which you can't get without the extended magazine. It's your grip that is the problem not the gun. The slide has to retract far enough to allow for the new cartridge to pop up out of the mag. So if you have a sloppy grip the there is no resistance on the gun. Your hand flexes and moves back on you and will not allow the slide to move to the rear far enough to accurately move a new cartridge into the chamber. My recommendation is to buy a new magazine with the extension on it. You do have strong fingers but I assume that the gun barrel flips up when firing reducing your grip. Once I learned how to grip the gun all feeding issues ceased. I own a bunch of Sigs as well.
I have the same issue if the mag is full. Then I trie with only 4 bullets, it was perfect in shooting. I will cut the spring short, hope the problem will be solved.
I put on Hogue finger grips and gave the 938 an extended trial but my experience was the same. Many failures and I have no limp wrist. My cross pin can easily fall out when slide racking if left tilt. No trust. Moved on to the many other options. I’m an old 1911 kinda guy but striker fired is fine too, whatever goes bang everytime.
i bought one not long after they came out.. only issue i had was mag fell out with every shot.. turned out +p aren`t really good for it and clasp that hold in mag was a bit worn off . sig replaced Mag catch and also upgraded some parts that weren`t availble when pistol first came out.. Ever since it has been very reliable and i do love it. i bought a couple more 7 rnd mags and never use the 6 rnd mag. the p 938 is very accurate as far as 30 yrds and some people did comment on close i came at a 70 Yrd target.
Hundred percent reliable I've had mine since they first came out never had a problem with mine at all it's the same one on this video I also bought an HD stainless steel for my dad at the same time both the guns have been a hundred percent reliable
thank you for your input. I will say the Sig P938 is my EDC. I have one with the custom Hogue grip. Have never had any misfeeds or misfires. mine also came with a flush mag and and extended. I noticed your first comparison was with the Kimber Micro 9. I bought one of those for my ex-wife and it would misfeed all the time. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with that one in particular. Mine is one of the most reliable guns I've had
First, thank you for a very thorough review, even a generous review, considering your experience. Mine came with two magazines (one extended) and a holster (looks like a Fobus, but doesn't say). I've only put 300 rounds through it, because I purchased it just before Covid, and I have been "economizing" on ammo since then. But I had no failures to feed or to extract or to fire in those 300 rounds (my Glocks 23 and 27 had no FTF or FTE, but two dented primers that fired on the second try, out of probably two thousand rounds each, so they were reliable too; my Kimber has had no failures of any sort in several thousand rounds). So I wonder, since the P938 is similar in some respects to a 1911, if your short magazine effectively causes a limp-wrist. My hands are so small that I can get three fingers on the grip, and I grip it firmly, as I do my Kimber Ultra CDP II. But for an individual with larger hands, it might be that the wrist is not limp, but there's just not enough grip available to hold against the recoil at the bottom of the grip, so that you get the effect of a limp wrist, without a limp wrist! If you have a friend who is roughly 5'-3", as I am, with small hands, it might be worth having him test it. Maybe the people in New Hampshire who are testing it have small-ish hands also, and that would explain it. Sorry I can't offer more, other than well-wishes for resolution, and for happy and safe shooting.
Hi, do you have any updates for us, is it running better for you? What have you tried.. Different mags, ammo? Mines still doing great 👍👍 probably 6-7 hundred rounds through it so far, no issues or malfunctions.
I have a P238. I intentionally left it dirty between range trips just to push the reliability test. ~300 rounds and no issues. Did you get your 938 working? I was thinking about getting one because I like the p238 so much.
I have the 938 emperor scorpion and mine came with both mags, not sure why it came with only one but I have large hands and of coarse like the extended mag but use both and have great results.I have never had an issue since day one and own a P320 as well. Sig has always been on point with customer service so that certainly surprised me that you have sent it in and I have to believe they covered everything in testing being the importance of a carry weapon/Any weapon for that matter. If it were me I would buy two extended mags and shoot hundreds of rounds through it to break it in ,Maybe not cleaning it prior to shooting when its new ,I personally have never done that.
Great to hear! Also on a positive note, mine was returned from SIG and functions fine at the moment. I have a follow up video in the schedule. Thanks for watching!
I have owned and carry a 938 everywhere I go. I have ran well over 2000 rounds thru mine and I have not had a single failure to date (knock on wood). Sorry about your experience with it but for me mine is at the top of my list for my carry weapon
I have the P938 and had the same exact experience as you, it would fail to feed every other mag on any kind of hollow point self defense ammo. Sent it in to Sig twice and they claim they filed down the feed lip on the barrel to make it less aggressive of an angle and I still have the same exact issue. Have probably put a few hundred rounds of range ammo through it no problem but as soon as I put in any hollow point it has the issue. I've had enough and going to trade it in for a Kimber Micro 9.
Bought my P938 about three years ago. It came with two mags, one with the extended pinky extension. It has been very reliable. ZERO misfires, stove piping or hang fires. Accuracy at 25 yards is amazing. Mild recoil with standard 9mm and VERY easy to rack the slide to chamber a round, unlike every other sub compact semi auto I’ve tried. I love it.
Your experience with the P938 is virtually the exact opposite of my experience. Easy to conceal, however, persistent FTEs and sharp recoil even with prescribed two handed grip are the norm. Take down and reassembly is more difficult than necessary. Local respectable gunsmith could not find a problem with the pistol.
Yea, I have the p938 sas too that I bought new. Mine definitely came with the flush mag and extended mag. Also, regadless of it came with an extra mag or not, saying you won't carry a $700 gun because it didn't come with an extra $20 mag is a bit much.
I've shot handloaded light loads, freedom munitions factory reloaded, gold dot, high powered self drfense rounds, and just random bulk 9mm from whatever brands... Never had a single issue.
It's definitely snappy and not a good range toy, but you're buying a tiny 9mm, it's going to be much more snappy than say a glock 17 lol.
People complaining that it's both too snappy and has feed issues.. seems like a very overlapping vinn diagram... I bet people are limp wristing and the gun isn't cycling
I have one of these !!!! Terrible, looks good but has many issues
@@dwrecked9329limp wristing will have some sell a gun not realizing its them sig makes quality 👌
I have a p938 with hogue oversized grips. This is a great gun. I have on order a p938 legion. I can't wait to get this gun also. Sig makes a great weapon. I carry mine everyday.
Dude, the P938 legion is the gun you are looking for. Comes with not one, but 3 extended mags. Incredible firearm
I have one. 100% reliable with all ammo I've tried. No issues. It is a great little carry pistol.
I've has my sig 938 since right came out. Mine came with a extended magazine & the small magazine.
I've shot Mine over 500 times absolutely NO malfunctions.
I carry it every day all day.
Mine came with a rubber grip.
The grip is very comfortable.
Wouldn't trade it for the world.
Great edc gun. I love mine.
Owned my p938 about 6yrs. Carry it most days, very reliable, EXTREMELY accurate. Have fired about 2000 rds. thru it. It certainly has a home.
I've owned my P938 SAS since May, 2015 (and still have the sales receipt in the storage case). I carry it daily, and I frequent the range with it. In my experience, I haven't had any issues with mine, at all.
I love my P938 sport as well
My p938 mag keep falling out🤣. I had to get a enhance spring. And my p238 have primer strike issue once every time I goto the range. My new p238 trigger pull is like 9.5lb!
I too have owned the extreme model and carry it everyday. I carry a flush mag and at 15 yards I can shoot a fist size group every time. You have to practice with your carry gun. In reality, most civilian shootings happen within 3 feet, fire 3 rounds and last 3 seconds. consider that when choosing a CC gun.
@@slsk9 that's damn impressive. 3 inch group at 15 yard 3 shots under 3 sec
@@seek3n reading comprehension. Try it.
I also have a "Redwood " handled P938 with a seven round Sig magazine. After owning and shooting it many years without any problems it began having occasional failure to feed problems on the same ammunition I have practiced with for years. I tried other brands with the same failure to feed issues recurring. Over time the failure to feed issues worsened becoming more frequent i.e. several failures in a single magazine. Eventually the magazine itself began ejecting completely out of the pistol while half loaded. After much online research the problem ended up being a worn magazine release spring. I replaced the spring at home easily with a red colored" heavy duty" magazine release spring from Midwest Gun Works. It solved all the problems without the need to replace the original Sig 7 round magazine. The gun function is now rock solid. Multiple attempts to induce a failure to feed with rapid fire "magazine dumps" have failed to reproduce the problem. Nice to have my old friend back !
This is my EDC & has been for several years. I presently own 2 of them, each is mounted with a laser. I trust it to protect my life. I also purchased one for my daughter to carry, which she does every day. When each of these were bought they ALL came with both an extended mag & the shorter mag. These mags NEED to be broken-in to loosen the springs!! I loaded the mags & left them loaded for 3 days. I then loaded & unloaded them several times. Since then I've had 0 failures. Each also came with hard wooden grips AND rubber grips with finger grooves. I use the rubber grips for general shooting practice & OWB carry. I use the hard wood grips for pocket carry (which I much prefer). FABULOUS GUN!!
You answered my question before I even asked it. I have a very difficult time reloading my magazine for my P938. I have to break it in like you did. My favorite was my H&K 4. I don't think it could have been improved upon....I loved it!
I purchased my 938 about 2 years ago. it was the LEGION model. it was a definite improvement from yours. it cams with 3 magazines holding 7 rounds each, it had a g10 grips, Anextension at the bottom of the grips that would have taken care of your pinky. it is a MICRO pistol. I have put hundreds of rounds down range and have NEVER had a an issue with ammo, stovepipe, etc, etc , etc...... .you should have looked at the legion version.my pistol was a little over 700$ bucks....well worth It
Mine came with the extended magazine. First time out at the range I ran over 100 rounds through it and never had a failure. Shot well 15 yards.
what extended mag did you have ?
@@lucilledog8832 or like me I bought 2 spare mags
Mine also came with the extended magazine. I’ve had mine for over 12 years and thousands of rounds and never had a fail. Needless to say, I love this gun. It’s been an accurate shoot since day one, and I’ve highly recommended it to many of my friends.
Mine stovepiped every magazine on the fifth round when I first got it so I sent it back, they replaced the ejector and ejector spring and it’s run 100% reliably ever since. Mine has the rubber hogue style grips and came with an extended magazine. I’ve carried it every day in every season for about 10 years now, it took me some time to trust it completely due to the failure to eject issue so I can understand your apprehension. You already have a lot of money into it but it might be worth it to pop for an extended magazine and see it resolves the fail to feed problem, it’d also give that third finger something to grip.
After about the fourth magizine at the range - fired a round, and the slide stop flew out of the gun. I never had a failure like this. Standard pressure ammo. I bought this so called " like new" condition, but maybe the previous owner messed it up.
My mother owns this pistol. She had a few malfunctions to begin with but they were user errors not the pistol. I will be honest I am not a Sig guy by any means, however, after shooting this yesterday 50 rounds of Blazer 115GR FMJ I feel comfortable carrying this pistol. Three pinky extension 7 rd mags only load six in each one in the chamber cocked and locked. Carrying it as we speak!
why only 6 if i may ask?
@@antdogboyness_66 yeah why?
Why only 6rds in 7rnd mag?
Give it back to your mom
Wonderful son for sure.
Did some work on my P938 and it runs like a champ…M-Carbo spring kit, Tillamook Precision steel trigger, Hogue rubber grips with finger grooves, extended mags with pinky hold, heavy magazine release spring from Midwest Gunworks, left-side only safety (OEM, P238 fits fine)…enough DIY work that it took all the fiddly stuff with this gun and pretty much eliminated it.
Takes a lot of getting used to when it comes to assembly and disassembly (there’s lots of stuff you can do to literally render the gun unshootable if you’re not careful), but once you’re familiar and know what to look out for (don’t put the safety on when disassembled, don’t over-depress the extractor when you’re putting the slide back on, don’t accidentally launch the slide release spring, don’t put the takedown pin in the wrong hole when putting the gun back together), you have yourself an amazing carry gun that’s more than worth the effort.
For what it’s worth, I chose the P938 over the Kimber Micro 9…just felt it was a more solid option…and I wouldn’t own a Glock if Glock was the only gun mfg. in the world…lol. As for feed failures, the only issues I’ve had have been mag related…in general I find the magazines to be kind of janky/chintzy and I did have a magazine whose base plate that wanted to press out when the mag was full…it was for sure a mag issue tho I did replace the magazine release spring (heavied it up, as I said).
Carry wise, I run an Urban Carry lock leather for OWB, a HAWG Holster for those rare occasions I run IWB and, indeed, I LOVE the DeSantis pocket holster (I have one for my P938 and one for my wife’s Walther PPK/S).
I tried the MCarbo spring kit and had several light strikes in the first couple of magazines. Changed ammo and the problem still occurred. I put the OEM springs back in.
Zero issues of FTF you’ve described, Extremely reliable and fun to shoot. Cheers!
I've had my p938 for a few years and have ran both target and self defense rounds through it with zero issues also mine came with the extended magazine
When I bought mine it came with 2 mags, 1 flush fit 1 extended. Mine also came with the rubber grip with finger grooves a little bulky but you get a nice grip on it. Great little gun I still carry it. I’ve taken it to the range a handful of times with no problem even with carry ammo. 👍I hope Sig takes care of the problem for you.
I bought a P238 when it was new and added a P938 when it came along. The 238 had a lot of problems when new and needed a couple hundred rounds and lubrication before it smoothed out. The 938 was similar but never smoothed out like the 238. The gun was designed for the .380 and when adopted for 9mm I suspect the heavier spring made the gun require an even firmer grip to cycle properly. As far as the hand grip, the 7 round mag seems to solve that on both pistols. This gun is perfect size for the .380 cartridge but a little too small for 9mm.
Have one, my wife have another one - no feeding issues with any type of ammo.
I have one too. Also no feeding issue.
Same here. The only time I had a feeding issue with was ammo I loaded myself and it's only happened once in about 250 rounds through it.
Change the magazine... it's always the magazine.
I thought this might be a video trashing all P938 pistol, but you are just saying your P938 has reliability issues so you won't carry it. Don't blame you. Two other things that you mention are the lack of finger grooves and the fact it didn't come with an extended mag. That's on you though. You could have did what I did and bought the BRG model P938 that comes with Hogue rubber grips and two extended "pinky" mags. Thankfully my pistol has ran flawlessly for 200 rounds now. Be safe.
I own the P238. I’ve owned it for over a year and never shot it. In fact never owned a pistol before. I finally got to shoot it the other day. I took it out loaded the magazine and began shooting. I ended up shooting about 100 rounds And never had a problem. The first 50 rounds were terrible I could barely hit the target. By the end of the hundred rounds I was hitting the paper plate we were using four or five out of the seven rounds in my mag. So far very pleased with the P2 38 and looking forward to shooting a couple hundred more rounds soon. By the way we were at 50 feet. Now I’m very pleased since you mentioned you train at 21 feet. 😊
Mine came with an extended magazine and a 6-round magazine. I never had a stoppage with it. It’s an excellent CCW.
I have a P938 Extreme that came with both mags, G10 grips, and SigLite sights. It’s light, accurate, and reliable. Also have a P238 that’s been a great shooter, too. I think you need to run these wetter than normal, at least until they’re worn in a little. But I don’t recall any feed issues on either of these pistols.
I've had my 938 for about a year, It can with the extended mag. I have never had a FTF.
My wife and I each have a 938 . Initially I had an issue with the magazine releasing while firing . Sig solved the problem. We both have had zero problems since . It is my favourite summer carry handgun . When wearing heavier clothing I prefer my HK P30sks .
2 piece guide rod. Mine came apart 2nd time at the range. Shot out of the front of the gun and I was unaware it happened, the gun still functioned. Got home to clean the gun and the front of the guide rod was missing. Found out this is not uncommon to happen to the 938. Called Sig and the sent a new guide rod. I was planning to take it apart, unscrew it, and reassemble using red lock tight. I was not able to budge it so I figure Sig had already addressed the issue with red lock tight or something else. Gun has performed flawlessly since that episode.
I bought my sig P938 BRG 10 yrs ago, it came with 1 6rnd mag and 1 7rnd mag pinky extension. I bought 2 more 7rnd.
I was experiencing the same failures as you are having with every single mag I had. I sent it to sig and they replaced the main spring in the rear of the grip, sent it back to me and I haven't experienced any more failures. It has run like a sewing machine since. I have large hands and I love this pistol with the +1 extended mag. I hope this helps, it really is an amazing micro 9mm.
I have 2 that I have been shooting for about 10 years. This is a great a gun with no issues. Most comfortable small gun that I have shot. Great trigger with low recoil. The sister 308 is also a great gun.
Many members of my gun club carry one and all love them.
Bought this for my wife yesterday. Bought it new from the gun store for $650. Came with one 7 round mag. I bought an extra mag while I was there. We first rented a few guns for her to try. I carry an HK p2000 and that was way to big for her. We rented the sig 365, sig p938, S&W shield and one J frame for fun. She settled on the 938. She loved it! Shooting all those guns made me realize the sig 938 had the least amount of snap when shooting. It came down between the 365 and the 938 and the 938 was just a bit more smooth. My wife is a 1911 shooter . She seems to do excellent when shooting one so the 938 has very similar 1911 features which made it very attractive to shoot. Great gun.
Got my P938 Extreme in 2014. One flush mag and one extended mag. Many hundreds of rounds. No failures. Carry in a Alabama pocket holster. No regrets.
I've had mine for about 6 years, put 6,000+ rounds through it. I had a handful of failures to feed in the beginning, but it hasn't happened since before the first 1,000 rounds. I love this thing and trust it with my life. The extended magazine is definitely a must-have for a good grip. With that, it feels like it was tailor made for my hand.
I have both micro 9 and 2 938s one being a legion, the kimber magazine works in the sig and are less expensive and they make 8 round ones. The only problem with the standard 938 is the plastic trigger that can break at the pivot, mine did at 1500 rounds.
The micro 9 has a metal trigger stock as does the legion 938. Carry one every day and shoots great.
I’ve owned an Sig p938 SAS and carry it everyday. It conceals great, it shoots very accurately, it’s reliable, no misfires, no failure to feed. It’s better than my Glock 43x.
Well I purchased the Legion version, it came with 3 extended 7 round mags, the first of September 2023, 500+ rounds threw it with zero issues or malfunctions. That's with range and defensive HP's. I also got a nice gun bag and coin for "free" a couple of weeks later after registration with Sig. Sorry your experience wasn't so good, maybe try different ammo.
I have a P938 with FTF’s. Mine was an issue with tolerances. The slide was hanging up on the top of the barrel at full recoil just a bit. I polished both surfaces, applied extra lube, went back to the range and it works 100% now.
I have owned a carries mine for over 5 years and have shot everything in it including +P with no issue. It may be the magazine follower I have had to adjust mine on certain magazines but after that nibissues
Interesting...SIG has the gun at the moment, hoping to get it back soon and do a follow up. Thanks for watching!
I have had NO issues of any kind after 600 rounds. Mine came with a Sig branded laser and two 7-round magazines. It is (after swapping the hammer spring and the firing pin spring) absolutely the finest pistol I have shot. I'm sorry that you are experiencing issues, I hope you get your problems resolved and gain enough confidence to carry it.
I received mine back from SiG Friday. Going to the range on Monday. Follow up video will follow! (Fingers crossed)
Mine came with the extended magazines.
Also magazines from that Kimber you showed are identical and are interchangeable. I use my 8 rd Micro 9 mags.
I have 2 938 had same problem found out it was one of the mags. It was one of the 6 round mag that comes with the gun so I bought all 7 round Mags with a pinky extension on it . Problem solved
I’ve got the Springfield Armory 911 in .380 ACP, essentially the same design made by a competitor. Had it for 3 1/2 years now. There are a couple of other guns I carry now and again but this is what I carry 90% of the time.
First couple hundred rounds I was having some failures to go into battery and light primer strikes. After that, it was very reliable, with either six or seven round mags.
One important thing I learned from a guy who helped run the range I was shooting at had to do with the best way to clean this particular type of pistol. He said don’t use too much CLP-type oily cleaners, but instead use a non oil based cleaner like Birchwood Casey “Gun Scrubber”, especially on the slide assembly. I took his advice and the problems disappeared. I’ve got probably 2000 rounds through it now and as long as I clean it every 100-150 rounds, it is as reliable as the day is long.
I bought a P938 Legion used. Came with 3 7+1 mags (extended). No shooting, feeding, or ejection issues at all. Only issues were 2 of the 3 mags would not hold 7 rounds. I took the mags apart and cleaned them. One of them looked like the spring was reversed. After reassembly, 1 holds 7 the other almost 7 (still working with this one). Purchased 2 more 7 round mags - both easily hold 7. Stippling was a bit aggressive so I put on Talon grips. Love the single action and trigger. Very 1911-ish.
Did you ever get your feed issue fixed? I have a P238 (380ACP version) and experienced some feeding issues. I removed the extractor on the next cleaning session, cleaned all of it up thoroughly, and that fixed it.
I saw your video titled " coolest gun I would NEVER carry" so I had to click on to see why.
We purchased our 1st P938 for my wife. She LOVES it. She shoots amazingly well with it and it is comfortable enough that she has no qualms about carrying it, which is the most important factor to me when it comes to her side arm.
Well being a South Paw in a right handed world poses lots of different issues and obstacles for us when it come to firearms. (You rightys will never fully understand or comprehend our pain) This weapons ambidextrous feature is 2nd to none. In fact, it is so nice we had no choice other than to purchase our 2nd P938 because the wife got fed up with me always having HER gun. And we are about to purchase a third. Just because.
I have shot hundreds and hundreds of rounds of every type of ammo. Standard, personal defense, hollow points, u name it and I have shot it. And I have NEVER, not one time, had any issues or fails from either one of the weapons.
I completely understand and would feel the exact same way you do had I had tbe issues you have.
When it comes to the well being and safety of my family and loved ones, I DON'T gamble or take risks. I ONLY carry what I can rely on 100%. It's tbe difference between your name being in tbe paper or on a head stone.
My suggestion would be get Sig or a very skilled gunny to take a look at it again because I think there is something wrong with yours. I'd bet my life on it.
I have the legion version. I had a few fail to feed so I really cleaned up the feed ramp. Once I did that I’ve gone through maybe 200 rounds no issue. It came with 3 7 rd mags and I bought an extra
Mine came with both the regular and extended mag out of the box. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it with no failures. Shoots great, nice trigger pull, accurate. Being so small it is a bit more difficult than I'd like releasing the standard mag, not as big a problem with the extended.
Have same gun,with scrolling. Love mine. It came with two mags,regular and extended. Only thing I have had happen,somehow I will inadvertently hit the mag release. Working on that. Operator error,not a weapon problem.
I believe this TH-camr’s problem is operator headspace and timing. He seems very inexperienced in firearms
I carried the p938 (SAS model) for 8 years before recently joining the doublestack micro crowd. I still use it for pocket carry occasionally. Mine came with both a flush fit 6 rounder and the 7 rounder with the pinky extension. I never had any feeding issues whatsoever, regardless of magazine or ammo choice.
Bought one of these in 2012 and had some of the similar problems you did at first, including not being able to get through a full mag without a FTF or FTE (usually stovepipe). The first 250 rounds were a stoppage nightmare. Tried multiple types of ammo in different weights and didn't fair much better. I even bought two additional magazines to test with.
I thought I had a dud and started to despair that I'd bought an overpriced range toy. Slowly, however, it started working better and better. Basically there were two things I found to help: 1) lube the hell out of it (these guns like to be wet) and 2) repeatedly work the action on an empty gun to bed all the parts together. It looks like Sig's tolerances were too tight out of the gate and everything would just bind up. Today when I disassemble it for cleaning, I can see where the parts have worn in and developed a nice polish. This shouldn't be necessary, but it works. Somewhere after round 300 everything wore in and it's run flawlessly for at least the past 1000+ rounds.
Now that I think about it, it's probably time for a new recoil spring...
I dont understznd the recoil spring replacement..i have a beretta 92fc with over 19k rounds and still on same spring. All my other glocks and rugers are well over 5k rounds with no issues. What am i missing?
@@HansZarkovPhD maybe because it is so small , I know the kimber micro 9 recommend spring replacement every 1500 rounds, the kimber and the sig are basically the same so I'm assuming thats what it is about... just a guess
I have to agree with many others, here.
Mine runs 100% reliably, all kinds of ammo, including my own cast reloads… rounds, round HPs, SWCs, TCs and my personal favorites.. TC HPs.
To be fair, I did get mine used, so I do not know if there were FTFs early in its life, and out of my own habits, I do polish all feed ramps , on all of my semi’s.
Since purchasing mine, I was lucky to find, and purchase a .22 conversion kit.
Double your pleasure, double your fun !
Also, I do use the extended mag, along with Hogue’s rubber over mold grips, w/ finger grooves. I have large hands, and that combo feels great to me.
I've owned the gun for approximately 3 years and only had the magazine jam one time. For me, it's been a reliable firearm that I carry on a daily basis. A very good reliable weapon easily carried. My only problem is it's only a 6 + 1 so I do carry two magazines when out.
I had an M&P body guard 380 that failed often and the mag would drop out. I sent it to M&P twice very frustrating, never carried and got rid of it. I have had a Legion P938 for over a year now. Up to around 500 or so rounds now with different ammo, has never failed and is very accurate. Still like the 43x best for EDC but the P938 is better size for pocket when needed.
Just purchased the Equinox addition today. Beautiful gun, super excited to get it, and hoping my wife can easily fire it. I will absolutely keep you guys posted on it. Thanks so much for the video..
Best of luck with your purchase, and thanks for watching!
how is it?
Magazine latch spring or the magazine itself is my guess as to why your gun had issues. Any update?
Mine has a little over 1,000 rounds through it with hallows and round nose bullets. 100% reliable so far. My father bought a 938 and had has issues with his factory 7 round mag dropping out during firing. With other mags including the springfield 911 mags his has been solid. Always test your equipment for the occasional lemon.
I had some failure to feed problems and Sig sent me new magazines saying that the ones that they sent were going to help resolve the problem, and mine came with 1 extended and one short , and Sig replaced both. And yes it will still jam , but less often. top of the line ammo also helped, more powder , more better. I also bent the little spring the first time I took off the slide. you can't just bend it back, you will need it replaced. I let Sig replace it and called it my fault. So be very careful when taking the pin out or in. I wish I had purchased one of the more popular models from the beginning as they don't seem to have any issues. I would say to buy yourself one extended Mag and try it. Good Luck and thanks for a thorough review.
I’ve had zero fails on the 6 and extended 7 round mags; the 10 rounder ProMags are trash. I’ve carried the p938 since it released and love it.
Mine has the finger grooves, I didn't want the one with 1911 style plates. Ad the one I purchased came with the 6 and 7 round page. There's a lot of options, you just have to shop around.
I have a P938 Equinox for my EDC in a Custom OWB Leather Pancake Holster by TTGunleather. Like you said, you forget you have it on and it just disappears even with just a lightweight t-shirt. I purchased 3 extended mags, but can shoot just as well without the extension and I take XL gloves. Have not had an issue while shooting, zero failures. Any brand of gun can get can occasional lemon, even Glocks. During the winter when clothing permits, I will switch to my Kimber Ultra CDP II, another exceptional weapon.
I was just as excited waiting for mine a few years ago. It came with the 7 round magazine with the pinky extension. Even with the extension, I agree the grip is less than comfortable. Overall, however, I love the gun and it is very comfortable to carry. In several years of ownership and various types and brands of ammo there not not been a single failure to feed or any other problem. I just bought a 6 round magazine today and am curious to see if it causes any problems.
I have the exact same model. Grips, sights, everything and have the exact same issue. Mine is from when they first came out so I figured it was just a bug since they were new at the time.
Never had a failure on the 6rd factory magazine. I purchased the 7rd and have had issues with lower quality ammunition. Decent range ammo will work great
I have a 938 and a 238, both work flawlessly. However I use a dry moly lube. I pocket carry, so my pistols fill with lint. After carrying for even 4 months without cleaning , plenty of lint, both pistols fire flawlessly, no failure to eject, no failure to chamber, no failure to fire, flawless.
The 938 Legion model will solve all your problems. Mine came with (3) 7 round mags. The grip is slightly longer. I carry mine 365.
I have a sig p238 HD stainless. The 9mm version came out 3 months after I bought mine. The two pistols that I own that are the smoothest,
most accurate and reliable are my P238 and my Baretta 92fs stainless. They are both bomb proof. One caution on reassembly of the Sig. If you push that little curved pin to far down it can pop down off it's guide and you will have to completely dissemble the handle to put it back in position. It is a very difficult process to do that. Many people would need a gunsmith to reassemble it.
I've never had a feed issue with mine. Also, mine came with two 7 round magazines with extensions. I have the P938 the only difference is I have the rubber grips instead of the rosewood. This was all factory. I carry in a Versacarry Element @ 12 o'clock. Super comfortable.
A gun this small is easy to limp wrist…that is something I find with a lot of feed issues with guns of this size.
love the gun, I don't like the mag release, hits what I aim at, I like it. Smooth as butter for me, but to each their own.
I love it too! Hoping that SIG fixes the issue so I can trust it.
I had one as well and had multiple problems in feeding. Some history on that gun is that Sig used the 238 platform and basically modified some parts so it would shoot 9 mm. From what I remember, the first generation had extractor problems, Sig modified the gun so it would function. Mine had an issue with the main spring housing. The problem was the housing was polomer and the sear spring was metal. The Sear Spring engaged the housing via a small raised button on the polymer housing. After firing x amount of rounds, The polymer button would causie the sear Spring to separate from the housing. The sig talk forum is a great resource for owners of this gun who have had multiple issues. The last I read about and did not happen to me was guide rods separating from that bass that you referred to as having a U-shaped notch. From the postings on that forum people were saying that the guide rod and the base were two pieces that were threaded. The rod would back itself out and actually would project out from the gun while people were shooting at the range. I have since sold the gun and got myself a P2 38 which I love and have had no issues with all bed it is a step down in ammo because it fires 380 and 9 mm.
I have had mine for almost 10 years. I have the night version that came with the night sights and the rubber grips. Mine also had one seven round magazine. I carry it every day since I have owned it and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger. I own everything from an,NAA .22 to a SW 460. With all my choices, I still pick up my 938. Mine also had a factory holster.
I WISH I could buy a P938. It's what I wanted to buy. Got the P238 instead. With plans to carry it in non-Bear Country as a lil backup pistol for when I've got a deer on the ground, and my hands are bloodied up. So before using it in that capacity I ran all the various lead-free all copper bullets I could find thru it. Have NEVER had a FTE/FTF, EVER. I think I've got about maybe 7 or 800 rds thru it by now. Definitely get yourself the 7rd mags w the pinky extension. Stunned by the accuracy of this little pistol... once YOU master your own body mechanics in terms of shooting a small pistol. Can even keep it in the black of an 8" target @ 25yds. My initial goal was as a pistol for my wife to carry when, for her work, she'd have to travel to satellite offices to handle "employee issues" such as terminations. That P238 was by a noticeable degree, the easiest to rack slide out of any of the .380's I'd tested at the LGS. And the sights!! LOVE THEM!! Big chunky 3-Dot combat night sights that I can even see without my glasses on! So... as soon as the courts can finally B-slap the CA legislature to abolish the dumb Handgun Safety Roster BS.. I'm hoping to get a 938. EDIT: one thing I did right off the bat was opt for an aftermarket guide-rode that has a captured spring to it. Definitely recommend that upgrade as it makes disassembly a breeze.
@TheGDizzo, Where may I ask did you get the captured spring guide rod?
Ive had the p938 SAS now for 3 years. Had been my EDC for 2 years until I turned to p365. I never had any issues with the firearm no matter what ammo. Love the gun but actually selling it today just because I don't carry it anymore. Mixed emotions
That Kimber you have looks Baddass, I like how the grips blended in with that digital texture that matches the cuts on the slide...thats nice.
That Kimber is my go-to carry gun right now. For what I need, it’s perfect.
I have a P938 and a P365. I sometimes have failure to feed issues with the P938, but never with the P365. The P365 has a MUCH stronger recoil spring. The P938 has the lightest-strength recoil spring I have ever felt. I also have a tendency to limp-wrist when I shoot (working on that). The lighter spring, coupled with a weak grip, are the reasons for failure to feed. I am chalking it up to 'user error'. I love the gun because it is so small (even smaller than the P365) and I have the new SAS version (slips right into/out of my pocket), but until I train to have a few more range sessions to work on strengthening my grip, I will keep carrying the P365.
Interesting observation. The P938 is on the way back to me as we speak and I’ll get it back to the range for a better result, hopefully. Thanks for watching!
Mine came with 1 extended and 1 flush mount. Want finger groves? Get the Hogue grips.
Same. Mine came with the finger grip also
I own my p938 extreme. Mine came with the extended mag and the flush mag have it had many misfeed problems the only problem I had with my pistol is the guide rod screws in to the Head and it kept getting loose so I bought a solid guide rod and put it in and have no worries about it coming out during shooting.
I wonder if the better grip you get with the extended mag helps focus the recoil to run the slide better? I bought a P938 3 months ago and it has well over 700 rounds through it without a single FTFeed, FTE, or FTFire. 115gr Ammo types all over the place due to range ammo being a different brand every week. I have also run Buffalo bore 115gr +P JHPs, Lawman 147Gr Flat nose FMJs, Sig 124gr Ball Ammo, Reloads, blazer JHPs, 124gr +p, and Sig Elite V-Crown 115gr JHP. Sig Elite V-Crown 115 JHP is my carry ammo. I use the 7 round extended magazines. Never tried a 6 round. Maybe that is the issue for you.
Mine came with a 7 round mag with the extended purchase for the pinky in addition the the 6 rd mag. I love this gun.
Getting old sucks and arthritis and lost of strength worsens ftf and I am about to resort to a small 38 revolver. I have a collection of Sigs incl. 238 and 938s and before I store back in the drawers can you please recommend the most reliable ammo for your 938? Thanks, Bob in Vero.
I use SIG v-crown 115GR in most of my smaller 9mm pistols. My P938 is actually performing better after SIG worked on it.
Mine shoots well only 2 failures at the first time at the range. I took it home cleaned it and gave it a little extra oil than usual and it hasn't had any problems feeding since then but my pin for the slide can wiggle the smallest amount to cause the slide to catch. I'll need to send it in to sig to replace it
SIG was able to resolve the issue with mine. I am going to work in a follow-up video to cover it. Thanks for watching!
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel thats great to hear, they have excellent customer service. I hope you can feel comfortable now carrying it because so far I am in love with mine. You can't beat that small size with a light weight not to mention the accuracy of a 5 in barrel
Have a black chrome engraved 938 owned it maybe 10 years now. Qualified with it ( Sheriffs qualification course) Never a bobble using the SIG extended magazines 7+1 or with the little 6 round. I am a 1911 fan and use these often. In the HOT summer months I use the SIG P938 more often AND its small enough for use as a second or backup pistol as well. Even so its still a good primary at least for me when I want a small yet powerful little gun.
I have the P938 and had the feeding issue! I also had issues when I would chamber a round then dump my mag to top back off with another round, the top round would hold the mag in and fall out when pulling the mag out! I've tried multiple mags and it does it every time! Sig Sauer sent me a new mag to try to resolve the issue, but after further research I've discovered that's the design of the gun and the mag has a spring issue. Kimber Micro 9 and P938 is basically same magazine but one of the two has a weaker spring, not sure which though!
I have had my P938 for several years. I have fired all kinds of practice ammo as well carry ammo. I have never had an issue with misfiring, jamming etc. I have fired 300+ rounds thru it
Have it, Love it. Great video. I am guessing, but the problem may be that your grip may be too light. Experienced shooters will sometimes soften their grip to only what is required to maintain control and accuracy. This pistol wants a firm grip, more than what is required for control and accuracy. Hope that makes sense. This was my experience.
I've only had issues with the Sig self defense ammo. Every second round or so it would fail to feed. Other than that, everything else has never failed me. I own a emperor scorpion TB.
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I have the Sig Sauer P238. It looks the same, but it is in .38 ACP. Now, my pistol is accurate, and it has worked flawlessly thus far.
I've owned for 4 years and have had 2 major issues with the slide stop working its way out of the frame enough to lock the slide also the 2 piece guide rod assembly came out of the gun lost in the grass, so even though I love the looks and the controls I cannot in good conscience recommend as a concealed carry I would instead go with a P365 love the accuracy and reliability
are exemplary!!!!
I have one and purchased the extended mag at same time. I’ve shot multiple types of factory ammo and several types of my own reloads. Gold dots, Federal Syntech, Hornady XTP, Sierra V Crown and a couple of different FMJ bullets. Several hundred rounds and not a single FTF.
I shot my P938 with the standard magazine and two extended magazines today with each magazine being used twice. So 6 magazines and not a single jam. Yes, I agree, this pistol has its issues with certain types of ammo and so does my Walther PPQ. The only pistol I've that seems to shoot no matter what you load it with is the Glock 17. For the P938, I use Fiocchi rounds and I've zero issues with them.
Mine came with 2 magazines one with the extended grip I did have an issue with fail to feeds. However, I noticed that I needed a good grip which you can't get without the extended magazine. It's your grip that is the problem not the gun. The slide has to retract far enough to allow for the new cartridge to pop up out of the mag. So if you have a sloppy grip the there is no resistance on the gun. Your hand flexes and moves back on you and will not allow the slide to move to the rear far enough to accurately move a new cartridge into the chamber. My recommendation is to buy a new magazine with the extension on it. You do have strong fingers but I assume that the gun barrel flips up when firing reducing your grip. Once I learned how to grip the gun all feeding issues ceased. I own a bunch of Sigs as well.
One of my favorites in my arsenal
I have the same issue if the mag is full. Then I trie with only 4 bullets, it was perfect in shooting. I will cut the spring short, hope the problem will be solved.
I put on Hogue finger grips and gave the 938 an extended trial but my experience was the same. Many failures and I have no limp wrist. My cross pin can easily fall out when slide racking if left tilt. No trust. Moved on to the many other options. I’m an old 1911 kinda guy but striker fired is fine too, whatever goes bang everytime.
I pocket carry mine with a lazer. Springfield mags are great for getting around the sig tax. Mine also came with the extended mag.
I own two of them. One Equinox the other is a Legion. Carry the Legion most of the time. Love them both, nary a problem.
I was eventually able to solve to issue with Kimber magazines. I never did get an explanation from SIG but it works now. Thanks for watching!
i bought one not long after they came out.. only issue i had was mag fell out with every shot.. turned out +p aren`t really good for it and clasp that hold in mag was a bit worn off . sig replaced Mag catch and also upgraded some parts that weren`t availble when pistol first came out.. Ever since it has been very reliable and i do love it. i bought a couple more 7 rnd mags and never use the 6 rnd mag. the p 938 is very accurate as far as 30 yrds and some people did comment on close i came at a 70 Yrd target.
Hundred percent reliable I've had mine since they first came out never had a problem with mine at all it's the same one on this video I also bought an HD stainless steel for my dad at the same time both the guns have been a hundred percent reliable
thank you for your input. I will say the Sig P938 is my EDC. I have one with the custom Hogue grip. Have never had any misfeeds or misfires. mine also came with a flush mag and and extended. I noticed your first comparison was with the Kimber Micro 9. I bought one of those for my ex-wife and it would misfeed all the time. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with that one in particular. Mine is one of the most reliable guns I've had
First, thank you for a very thorough review, even a generous review, considering your experience. Mine came with two magazines (one extended) and a holster (looks like a Fobus, but doesn't say). I've only put 300 rounds through it, because I purchased it just before Covid, and I have been "economizing" on ammo since then. But I had no failures to feed or to extract or to fire in those 300 rounds (my Glocks 23 and 27 had no FTF or FTE, but two dented primers that fired on the second try, out of probably two thousand rounds each, so they were reliable too; my Kimber has had no failures of any sort in several thousand rounds). So I wonder, since the P938 is similar in some respects to a 1911, if your short magazine effectively causes a limp-wrist. My hands are so small that I can get three fingers on the grip, and I grip it firmly, as I do my Kimber Ultra CDP II. But for an individual with larger hands, it might be that the wrist is not limp, but there's just not enough grip available to hold against the recoil at the bottom of the grip, so that you get the effect of a limp wrist, without a limp wrist! If you have a friend who is roughly 5'-3", as I am, with small hands, it might be worth having him test it. Maybe the people in New Hampshire who are testing it have small-ish hands also, and that would explain it. Sorry I can't offer more, other than well-wishes for resolution, and for happy and safe shooting.
I keep playing with my wife's 238 and it feels so good I'm skeptical of the 9s reliability though but I still want one
Hi, do you have any updates for us, is it running better for you? What have you tried.. Different mags, ammo?
Mines still doing great 👍👍 probably 6-7 hundred rounds through it so far, no issues or malfunctions.
I have a P238. I intentionally left it dirty between range trips just to push the reliability test. ~300 rounds and no issues. Did you get your 938 working? I was thinking about getting one because I like the p238 so much.
Did you ever get your 938 to work right? I've had mine for years maybe 8-9 years... never one issue carry it all the time.... buying another one soon.
I have the 938 emperor scorpion and mine came with both mags, not sure why it came with only one but I have large hands and of coarse like the extended mag but use both and have great results.I have never had an issue since day one and own a P320 as well. Sig has always been on point with customer service so that certainly surprised me that you have sent it in and I have to believe they covered everything in testing being the importance of a carry weapon/Any weapon for that matter. If it were me I would buy two extended mags and shoot hundreds of rounds through it to break it in ,Maybe not cleaning it prior to shooting when its new ,I personally have never done that.
Great to hear! Also on a positive note, mine was returned from SIG and functions fine at the moment. I have a follow up video in the schedule. Thanks for watching!
I have owned and carry a 938 everywhere I go. I have ran well over 2000 rounds thru mine and I have not had a single failure to date (knock on wood). Sorry about your experience with it but for me mine is at the top of my list for my carry weapon
I have the P938 and had the same exact experience as you, it would fail to feed every other mag on any kind of hollow point self defense ammo. Sent it in to Sig twice and they claim they filed down the feed lip on the barrel to make it less aggressive of an angle and I still have the same exact issue. Have probably put a few hundred rounds of range ammo through it no problem but as soon as I put in any hollow point it has the issue. I've had enough and going to trade it in for a Kimber Micro 9.