Your video was very helpful. Ive never removed a Governor. I watch your video for about 2 hours while at the same time doing the same thing on my new motor. Came out nice. Best video out for Governor removal. Now we need some videos of stage 3 upgrades. Billet Piston , rod, and stuff.
So I just need help understanding the point of removing the governor from inside the crankcase rather than just disconnecting the governor linkage on the outside wouldn't that be easier I don't know
Reiterating it's the internal governer parts that might shatter at high revs, more than they were designed & with the internal plastic flimsy gear wheel their is also some metal clips & circlips the crankcase doesn't want those parts floating in the oil: as it's a "Splash & dip" oiling system engine the conrod is used as the big end bearing & unless you've fitted it with an alloy type aftermarket Conrod with changeable bearing shells, your taking a big risk if a bit of plastic goes through your Conrods & piston skirt oiling system.One exception: some of the Honda engines come with an oil pump & pressurized oiling system, much like your car, it was sort of successful with the 1930s & 40s Stovebolt chevs but they still had a form of oil pressure system spraying oil at the Conrods. Cheers From New Zealand, home of Burt Munroe & the World's fastest old Indian.
Disconnecting the governor externally works about 60% because the governor still activates at around 5000rpm but fully removing it brings it to about 6800rpm externally you won’t have to worry about internal issues if you fully remove it you gonna want to get performance parts
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped of stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas or 4 stroke made for MX,, make sure it has Zinc & phosphate & other antiwear additives in it.Steer clear of the take-home multiweight oils from Walmart etc....their made for modern roller cammed friction free engines Cheers from New Zealand.
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped or stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas or 4 stroke made for MX,, make sure it has antiwear additives
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped of stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas .Cheers from New Zealand
@mardyfullthrottle here's another question for you. I installed my brand new predator 224, add a curved intake, genuine vm22 mikuni carb, and a straight pipe, but my bike seems to be just as slow as the stock 196 engine the bike cam with. Any suggestions?
@@troy22ndYou need to adjust the gearing bro. Right now look at how many teeth you have on your clutch sproket VS teeth on the drive sprocket (the sproket on the rear wheel). Ive got a coleman cc100x with a Predator 224. Im running a 12 tooth clutch (3/4 inch bore hole) and the stock 75 tooth rear sproket. Gov bypassed, regular carb with intake n valve cover breather, header pipe n muffler, mobile 1 full synthetic 10w30 and Im hitting 40-42 mph. I weigh 180 and I always have my "in case I break down" tools in my back pack which is another 18lbs.
The part inside the engine is the reason to remove it so no, you're still in the same boat as leaving it in there as far as having to worry about it breaking.
Mardy: the 224cc is known by other names around to world too.Im in touch with the Predator factory in China & they recently raised their prices so I suspect HR took there money Elsewhere ! It's know as a 7hp elsewhere .Cheers from New Zealand.Mardy in case you or others wanted to know I can still source 79cc & 212cc predator parts & probably get them dropshipped even direct from the Chinese factory to people in USA...much more than Harbour Freight carries ! PM me if serious.Waves from New Zealand.
@@mardyfullthrottle thanks. Thought I ask anyways. Those are hard to come by down here in Dade/Broward at a good price. Keeping real and keep the videos coming
Your valves were closed that’s why you couldn’t turn the engine over my man, and the next time just pull the spark plug out it will make it so much easier. I just picked up a bike the guy put $2000 to build it predator stage four billet fly wheel the works haven’t even used it yet ha ha ha ha
@@mardyfullthrottle all good brother, I have a 212 predator with 15 hp 12 inch tires, 15 tooth front 72 and a rear TopSpeed 53, I would love to do like you guys and put tall tires it’s just that the scrub break is in the way. Anyway keep riding my man I love watching your videos
Your video was very helpful. Ive never removed a Governor. I watch your video for about 2 hours while at the same time doing the same thing on my new motor. Came out nice. Best video out for Governor removal. Now we need some videos of stage 3 upgrades. Billet Piston , rod, and stuff.
Mardy don't play!! Very interesting my man! Great video and taking points. 👍
I got you
If you take the spark plug out the crankshaft will move easy you know that Mardy 🤙🏻
lol learnt something new evderyday thats why im so fuggin smart lol🔧🔧🔧🔧
I see i'm not the only person that the goop tube does that too. I just got a 224 for my Cdns BT200X!
Tell me about it
U teach more than u kno bro good job. appreciate it from detroit
Thanks
Can u do a fully built engine video with the interior upgraded
Thanks for the information 👍
Aways welcome
What did you hit on the governor to take it off
So I just need help understanding the point of removing the governor from inside the crankcase rather than just disconnecting the governor linkage on the outside wouldn't that be easier I don't know
It can break off in the motor and that means bye bye motor
Reiterating it's the internal governer parts that might shatter at high revs, more than they were designed & with the internal plastic flimsy gear wheel their is also some metal clips & circlips the crankcase doesn't want those parts floating in the oil: as it's a "Splash & dip" oiling system engine the conrod is used as the big end bearing & unless you've fitted it with an alloy type aftermarket Conrod with changeable bearing shells, your taking a big risk if a bit of plastic goes through your Conrods & piston skirt oiling system.One exception: some of the Honda engines come with an oil pump & pressurized oiling system, much like your car, it was sort of successful with the 1930s & 40s Stovebolt chevs but they still had a form of oil pressure system spraying oil at the Conrods.
Cheers From New Zealand, home of Burt Munroe & the World's fastest old Indian.
Disconnecting the governor externally works about 60% because the governor still activates at around 5000rpm but fully removing it brings it to about 6800rpm externally you won’t have to worry about internal issues if you fully remove it you gonna want to get performance parts
@@deansmith3817 oh cool thank you
I heard u can put a stock hemi predator cam in too get rid of plastic cam gear and u get a little more power
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped of stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas or 4 stroke made for MX,, make sure it has Zinc & phosphate & other antiwear additives in it.Steer clear of the take-home multiweight oils from Walmart etc....their made for modern roller cammed friction free engines Cheers from New Zealand.
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped or stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas or 4 stroke made for MX,, make sure it has antiwear additives
Bradley...the stock plastic cam is not as junky sounding as it sounds: for a reliable mildly souped of stock engine they are actually ok, with stock lightweight valvesprings & 18 pounds on the seat you'll be fine...one model of Chev used a part plastic/powdered iron composite Conrods & they held together fine...don't worry about a plastic camshaft until you get into serious mods...a stg one kit/carb change & removed muffler with a maybe milled head with the Governer still hooked up...you'll be fine, don't over rev it( it's an industrial engine) & choose a single weight 4 stroke MX oil like Lucas .Cheers from New Zealand
@@trevinskiking2165 Yeah because 10W is too thin cold. lol
@@Deucealive75 For others that's not what I meant ! Cheers
dam dinosaur sounding birds lol wtf
Lol
Saludos desde puerto rico , me gustan estos videos asi
Que aprendiste
Do you have to remove the governor internally or can you get away with just removing the external arm/linkage??
You can just remove the arm
@mardyfullthrottle here's another question for you. I installed my brand new predator 224, add a curved intake, genuine vm22 mikuni carb, and a straight pipe, but my bike seems to be just as slow as the stock 196 engine the bike cam with. Any suggestions?
@@troy22ndYou need to adjust the gearing bro. Right now look at how many teeth you have on your clutch sproket VS teeth on the drive sprocket (the sproket on the rear wheel). Ive got a coleman cc100x with a Predator 224. Im running a 12 tooth clutch (3/4 inch bore hole) and the stock 75 tooth rear sproket. Gov bypassed, regular carb with intake n valve cover breather, header pipe n muffler, mobile 1 full synthetic 10w30 and Im hitting 40-42 mph. I weigh 180 and I always have my "in case I break down" tools in my back pack which is another 18lbs.
@@mardyfullthrottleNo, bad idea.
The part inside the engine is the reason to remove it so no, you're still in the same boat as leaving it in there as far as having to worry about it breaking.
For a little more I bought a Ducar 224 and a 212r flywheel instead.🤔
Yo Mardy it’s tough when you got your A/C unit in a cage😂 all that other valuable stuff back there, they won’t get that A/C 😂😂😂😂
You can have everything but the a/c lol 😆
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Yeaaaa buddy!
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Nice, staring at a motor for 5 minutes.
Let's c what they talkn bout O.G!
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you took the washer out the Governor hole ?
Yes I did
Almost got it😢
Just stared watching so can say yet
Okay it more then that one this page fun in the sun
Somebody get the BB gun and take that bird out. 🐦
I did know there was a predator 224cc
Yes sir I will let you know if it is a go or all show
Mardy: the 224cc is known by other names around to world too.Im in touch with the Predator factory in China & they recently raised their prices so I suspect HR took there money Elsewhere ! It's know as a 7hp elsewhere .Cheers from New Zealand.Mardy in case you or others wanted to know I can still source 79cc & 212cc predator parts & probably get them dropshipped even direct from the Chinese factory to people in USA...much more than Harbour Freight carries ! PM me if serious.Waves from New Zealand.
That fuckin engine will never run right again 😢.
😂😂
Nice engine to build on and it's cheap
For sho
What's up with that blue baja in the background? For sale?
😂 naw it's not for sale
@@mardyfullthrottle thanks. Thought I ask anyways. Those are hard to come by down here in Dade/Broward at a good price. Keeping real and keep the videos coming
Block has more bracing brotha
Sound stream: it's a different engine ! Cheers from New Zealand
Okay new Zealand 🇳🇿 in the house
I see that 👀
so u leave the gov rod in im about to take the gov out my ducar 212
No I removed everything
@@mardyfullthrottle oh ok cuz i didnt see u remove the flywheel thanks bro 100%
Rookie😁
Lol 😆
Your valves were closed that’s why you couldn’t turn the engine over my man, and the next time just pull the spark plug out it will make it so much easier. I just picked up a bike the guy put $2000 to build it predator stage four billet fly wheel the works haven’t even used it yet ha ha ha ha
It's was a while ago but it wasn't the values
@@mardyfullthrottle all good brother, I have a 212 predator with 15 hp 12 inch tires, 15 tooth front 72 and a rear TopSpeed 53, I would love to do like you guys and put tall tires it’s just that the scrub break is in the way. Anyway keep riding my man I love watching your videos
Can you like speak English can barely understand what your saying
It's probably the way I was facing
@@mardyfullthrottle the way your face effects the way you speak? No sense