How to remove Predator 212cc governor- FREE POWER AND SPEED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In todays vid Ill be showing yall how to remove the governor out of a predator 212cc engine
Governors act as a speed limiter, cutting off throttle at 3600 rpm
leave any questions in the comments
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ENGINE WOULDNT START
I removed the govenor on my sons predator 224 and the internal low oil sensor and when i got done the engine wouldnt start and i was freaking out because it was my first time !! i ended up finding out its because when i pulled the cam the valve tappets came down a little so i pushed them back up not thinking much of it and later found out that can let the connceting rods fall out of place , so i took the valve cover off and sure enough they came off the rockers so i took it apart and put it back together and ahe fired right up hope this helps anyone who makes the same rookie mistake , i found 1 comment in 15 videos that led me to the problem so i figure i will repost same info!!
So I'm having the same problem with the 212 I only took the governor but my rods were connected any other ideas it's brand new
I think I’m having the same issue!!!! I just took off my governor and my mini bike won’t start
Thank you I am going to try this!
This happened but not the issue I can’t figure it our
@@flixkzy9895 is the cam aligned?
For those times when the gasket sticks, get a thin metal paint scraper and ensure it’s sharp, it will allow you to slowly work the gasket off. Also remove the flywheel and use a punch to punch the gov wheel out. Best way hands down
Awesome vid bro, i see many vids on governor delete, but urs was more detailed. I follow ur method step by step, it was easy!.👏🏼👍🏼✌🏼
Whoever is trying to remove governor, the arm needs to come out and be replaced with a threaded bolt. Remove the oil sensor. Definitely need some 18 pound springs and a heavy duty flywheel to be safe
Use a self tapping bolt 😉
1/4 inch thread self tapping 1 inch bolt
What do you Emma springs ?
@@amgbenz6949 valve springs
@@amgbenz6949 valve springs
Damn I wish someone would have told me when your removing the side casing that your cam comes out with it now I just have a hunk of metal junk awesome 👍
Hold on, what?
It shouldn’t I’ve taken the case of mine severel times and plus you can just put the cam back in I reccomend letting someone experienced work on it
Line your timing marks up. Pretty simple to get your motor back together. No cost.
Everyone uses this brute force method. Use a punch and drive the governor gear shaft out from the other side. Everything comes out as one unit. Them remove clip, gear and spacers from shaft. Drive the shat back into the hole. Much easier and parts don't end up where you can't find them.
Great advice thank you
Or just take shaft out all together and put in a bolt and do the same for the hole that is for the Governor arm
Can you make a more in depth video on how to bypass the governor with out opening the engine?
Zip tie the governor spring so it is like a solid linkage. Or just remove the linkage all together and relocate the return spring as he did in the vid. Did that to mine and it runs great. Just don’t have full throttle for long periods to be safe.
You can drill a hole and put a screw to hold the governor arm.
Make sure to change the flywheel because my cousins blew up yesterday and destroyed the engine and almost came through the case and went through his leg! We thought that it was a rare occurrence but it’s 100% going to happen to you especially after using it a while!
I had mine for like 4mos and this one done never has happed to me.
What did that engine come off of ? Im suprised it stayed running with the oil sensor still intact
customers minibike, and same lol little miracles
If the crankcase is filled up with enough oil you should be ok or if you are worried fit some kind of windage tray & sump baffle.The tight a*rse Chinese wouldn't fit an oil level protector for no reason.Overfilling your crankcase will ensure that splash & dip conrod gets its share of oil when your prone(no puny pin intended) to laying your Minibike over when your trying to do a burnout or accident with the engine on & you Can't quite reach that kill switch.Trev NZ
what did you do about the gas in the oil ? did you take the head off ?
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This helped me big time thank you sir !!!!
You will get better with time
How fast will it go stock and how fast with gov removal? My mini bike has 14 inch tires if that helps... just picked up a predator 212 today from harbor freight and not sure if I should remove gov before running it(so it doesn't leak as bad) or if It's worth just running stock(I REALLY don't want to break it!). I want to go around 40-45 mph and don't know if that requires gov removal...
Edit:I'm also adding a stage 1 kit so if that'll make it blow idk if I should remove gov
What's your gearing
@@adamssmallengines 12 tooth clutch to 70 tooth sprocket
@@madixj damn that’s low
The best ratio is a 5:1 ratio @@madixj
Thanks a lot bro that was so helpful
how many rpm do u get out of it with no governer? is it easy to blow it up or over rev it? looking to do this on a random homelite 179cc motor i slammed in a minibike
I think it hits 5k no clue tho. i had one on a stunt minibike and i was bouncing off redline constantly
Always upgrade your spring the stock 10lb spring won’t let you get to those high rpms without bogging
DON'T LEAVE THE GOVERNOR ARM IN THE MOTOR IF YOU PLAN ON TAKING THE GOVERNOR LINKAGE OFF 🤣 I literally just had the top of my block bust because that little arm apparently vibrated around a the crank smacked it and tried to push it out the top of the motor. Don't be an idiot like me
yeah lmao that shit will go boom real quick. ima highlight this so people know, thanks
If i can figure out how to pin comments😭
That wouldn't happen if the clip and linkage was tight. To that paddle arm.
I just got a 212 swapping it with a 79 but I want to take the governor off but I’m scared that I might mess it up I heard a zip tie works on the spring to
Zip ties work just fine
Very useful 💯
What if i have a full tank of gas and wanna remove the governor will all the gas spill or will ot stay in the tank
Hey ,,for extreme horse power drill out your exquast system ,intake,both gas and exquast
Sir why my engine can't down speed if i down my speed it's automatically engine off
So I cheated I pulled the crank shaft out and took a hammer and pryed that bitch out so what was left was the little pin a chunk of plastic and the washer but the black rod was exposed so now the paddle hits that and cant adjust but because the pin is still there the plastic and washer cant go anywhere so I just felt it should work fine when I replace the crankshaft
I have a fully built 212.. after blowing up a stage 1 kit with governor delete..thank God I wasn't injured.. let's just say, if you don't fully build up these little engines, they will blow..and can cause serious injury! The governor is put in place my the manufacturer for a reason, and it's not because of strictly emissions..it's mostly because the engine can't hold up to the temperatures it will endeavour.. the connecting rods are built to contain up to 4,800 rpms before it starts to heat up too much, breaking the connecting collar that holds the end of the connecting rod to the crank shaft.. causing it to sling off at a high rpm and be thrown though the top of the engine block.. deleting the governor, just isn't worth blowing the engine for just a little bit of fun...
Id say its worth the risk. Valve float keeps the flywheel, which is the main danger to the rider, below critical RPM and ive never had a predator blow unless i was riding top rpm constantly. However, anything beyond a stage 1 kit (not including valve springs) is sketchy without beefed up internals
I’m rebuilding a 212 getting new valve springs and a new billet rod and flywheel pretty sure thats all I need lmk if I need anything else I’ve had things go in my leg before just want it to be safe. Lmk thanks
It's definitely a wise choice to make sure everything that moves is built out of strong material.. and if you going to go that route, just know that its the cam that really controls the power-band..
Messing with governor on my Coleman resulted in a screwed engine in need of repair as the valve hit the piston even with 22lb springs. These engines cant handle it without upgrading internals.
If it’s a jang dong then that ur problem but if it’s a predator or tilloston then you don’t have to upgrade anything except the flywheel
I took mine out and just hope and pray every time I ride. I’ve had the valve cover blow off with bent valve rods so I just bent them back and put ‘em back in and it’s been going pretty good 😂
So u don’t want the governor arm to move correct?
In my opinion is best to don't touch that plastic sprocket/governor.
If is risk to destroy engine during ride I asking myself is that pays off?
Just leave it so it can spin 5x faster then it's intended. It'll destroy itself and ruin gears.
You also need to put heavier valve springs in
Is a billet Road needet?
You can do a gov delete and you can get it to 5500 rpm with the stock valve springs and nothing will break because the stock valve springs will float at 5500 rpm. If you get heavier valve springs, then you would have to upgrade to a bilet connecting rod because the stock rod can't handle the rpm that the gov delete and the heavier valve springs create
Great video, thank you
I don't know if I should try to do this it looks to complicated
Just wondering why did you leave the governor arm in there
I wanted to use the old linkage, as i wasnt upgrading the carburetor
I took mine off and now I can't figure out how to put it back together. There's these 2 rods 2 metal cap looking things and a plastic bit. I have it the way I assume its supposed to go
youre trying to reinstall it?
After I put the engine together is is way harder to pull. Any suggestions?
Valves & lash
Lmfao good vibes from this video thanks homie
My motor brand new just changing a few things , sll this for s governor🤦🏾♂️ I’m good
I've got a minibike with 212 stage 1 on it I ride on the road like a scooter.
Tip speed is 33 I want to go faster but u said if you take the governor off it's not good to ride long .so how can I ride long and go faster
Going fast without the governor is typically fine as the valve springs prevent most cases of overreving but if its only topping out at 33 than switch the rear sprocket to a smaller size. Torque will be decreased but youll have a much higher top end
Jon - as he says the stock Valvespring pressure will be an automated valve bounce rev limiter but there is the risk of a valve kissing the piston top ( Crown) but if you go ahead & fit some 18# Lbs Valvesprings & an aftermarket alloy flywheel then you'll have some measure of reliability at higher revs but then there's that std Conrod you need to think about, that's why they make Billet alloy ones.Id keep a safe rev limit of not much More than design overspeed of 6,000rpms.roughly Trev NZ as the old saying goes: how fast do you want to spend.!
Hey ,,for extreme horse power drill out your exquast system ,intake,both gas and exquast cc❤1ç ycbb k
Wont it just blow up though?
Do u have to put a new piston rod or should be ok or will it break
You should do a higher RPM rated rod if possible but if not you'll still be okay just don't over rev it too much.
Would it still work if the motor is still stock or no
Yes
Umetisha Mzee baba
Why not take gas out?
So I’m thinking of getting a new carb for my go kart. I want to get the mikuni but I have to remove the governor. Do you know any other carbs that I wouldn’t have to remove the governor?
you shouldn't have to do a gov delete, but if youre nervous because someone said that id just go w the stage 1 kit and upgrade the jet in the stock carb
@@kartingkid714 ok thank you! I’m just a little confused because the mikuni website said you have to do a gov delete but a person I talked to about the carb said they didn’t.
@@kartingkid714 do you have an Instagram? Just wondering if you could help me with some questions I have.
@@christianesser2132 karting.kid.official
Why did you leave Governor hand you should have taped it out
DUDE YOU LEFT THE GOVERNOR ARM IN THE ENGINE OH NO OH NOOOOOO SAY BYE TO ENGINE
ok and? if you set it up correctly it wont contact anything. im not an idiot contrary to what u think
@@kartingkid714 dude you don’t want extra crap inside of an engine it will blow up it’s not worth it
@@dababy_memes6956 as long as the governor linkage is tight it's not a problem. It's no different on a stock engine. If that bolt come loose the arm will rotate modded or not
It won't happen as long as the extra springs he added do not break. Those extra springs are SUPER important and are there to pull the throttle on the carb back to idle. There are guys who did this and did not add a spring. As soon as they started the engine the bike it took off on them. They made the mistake of doing what a guy showed them in a you tube video. LOL.
ive fixed 3 of these engines with gas in oil all stuck floats nd fuel shut off wide open
Would you recommend I do what you did or can I bypass it I won’t ride like an idiot obviously just wanna get up to atleast 28 and I’ll be happy got a race with my friends brand new coleman ct200uex I’m currently running a predator 212 hemi with the throttle screw backed out I probably could beat him as is but want a little more speed
you can bypass, I had a bypass on my stunt minibike and it worked great
I recommend you to find a good gear ratio. So you don’t do mods it increases a lot of tourque mine goes 37
do u have to remove the gov arm or can u leave it in?
If you can take it out
@@kartingkid714 but like u can leave it in and there will be no problems and good clearances not hitting anything?
Can’t believe you left the governor arm. Pull the crank out and do it right. Tap the hole and put in a set screw. And the oil level switch needs to be removed too. Those can come apart and wreck a 212.
Yeah it's a sketchy set up, never had it go wrong for me bit it's pretty easy to fuck up, I made a new vid just out of how to do ot the full proper way
@@kartingkid714 ah gotcha!
@Stephen Brewer yeah I kinda wish this video hadn't blown up so I could remake it earlier but it is what it is, just hope no one mixes things up
@@kartingkid714 it is what it is lol be happy it did blow up my dude :)
You forgot one other problem with governor deletion. The throttle can jam wide open even with the return spring on it. I had that problem several times before on my coleman mini bikes so a simple bypass would be the better option and safest
How do you fix this?
just change ur carb
So it’s ok to leave that arm installed? Thank You For This Video Bro👍🏾👍🏾
Yes but you need to make sure the alignment is correct
@@kartingkid714 so just find a way to keep it stationary? (no spinning). How did you do it?
@@pattrevon6753 the arm itself still moves its just set up so it doesnt contact anything in the case. basically when the governor is in the motor itll push the arm back if the motor reaches above 3600rpm but if the governor isnt in the motor the arm won't be influenced. its kinda hard to explain i will probably do another vid on it to clarify. If youre nervous about messing up the alignment id just cut the bottom of the arm off with a dremel.
@@kartingkid714 I mean I liked your video I was jus confused and worried about the governor arm messing up something internal. But if you’re engine is still operating fine I think I will do it and let you know how it turned out.
@@pattrevon6753 yea ive done it on several motors, just spin the motor over while moving the throttle around to make sure its not gonna contact anything
thisbwas awesome
Can you make a video on how you adjusted the throttle back. I’m so confused
Just watch my new vid it's alot better
Not to be cruel because I can see you really tried but dude... You are a complete and total hack. Amatuer hack at best. Certainly glad that was your motor and not mine. Bravo!!
Watch the new video. and that vid works fine u just have to not fuck it up and actually know what ur doing, but ok I'm a hack thats cool imma roll w that
The risk is too great!
If you don't hold down the throttle, you won't go fast. Save some money and buy a kit to do it right. You do want reliability 😮.
Never had this bike blow up on me tho I should have definitely added the removal of the governor arm I will fully admit
What is that spray called
pretty sure what ur asking abt is carb cleaner
You must not pay for brake cleaner
haha used to use that shit more than water, spent too much
Tighten them all by hand and wacth for oil leaks. Forever 😮
AAAAAHHHHHHH. Sideshow Bob.
Does this work on hemi
yes
where did you get the springs that return the arm
i think it was just a spring pack from harbor freight
Tap the case to loosen, don’t pry.
You did all of that for nothing you literally could just do the thing with the spring without tearing the motor apart and it would do the same thing so there is 2 ways for it to be done tearing it apart taking out the governor and the arm and the other way is the quick way but but gotta have the right tention on the governor also while it was apart you could have taken out the oil sensor and put a bolt with washers in you just said fk it ill do half and half lmao but people dont wake up and know how to do it gotta research and play around and tinker A for edfort
Do you got an instagram or something? I need a little help with my bike
Yea bro it's Caleb.x.g
Dude there is so many things you did wrong also you just left the top open like bruh
dude u post tiktoks on ur yt
Upload another kart video
How to explode you're stock flywheel and have you're leg amputated from the knee down. A LA predator!!
Valve float at 5k rpm preventd damage
Crazy stuff man lol love it
Non hemi 212
Do it with an empty tank smh
You missed alot of steps
Then why are you watching if you already know what to do
Better pull that little bar out or your gonna regret it .it WILL get it to your motor and go damage
If you look at 5:43, theres a little paddle on the governor arm rod. What I do is simply cut that off so you can keep all the linkages and don't have to mess with the clip on the gear. Unless I'm doing something with high hp, I dont bother removing the gear
agreed, i ran motors with byspassed governors ans they run great. Customer wanted it tho and im.mot gonna give up a chance to make a gov delete vid lmao
@@kartingkid714 how do you advertise your service
That engine will blow up
We’re did you get your springs from