Predator 212 / GX200 Go Kart Governor Removal

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  • How to remove the governor on a predator 212 engine. This is probably not the way most people do it but it works for me. Thanks for watching and don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe.
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  • @driverjamescopeland
    @driverjamescopeland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    1:43 "There's six bolts. As you can see, there all 10mm".
    $^*_%$="! Now I gotta go back to Harbor Freight to buy 2 more 10mm sockets. Why two?... because I know one will disappear on the way home.

    • @chrisbesaw8042
      @chrisbesaw8042 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True lol

    • @carlton997
      @carlton997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So right.
      There is a second dimension that all the 10mm sockets go to

    • @elijahmccartney2545
      @elijahmccartney2545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is a tooth fairy but for 10mm sockets

    • @SKATESPOTSWORLDWIDE
      @SKATESPOTSWORLDWIDE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gotta tight em up to spec tho

    • @ReeshaRacing
      @ReeshaRacing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s always the 10 mil 😂

  • @AndrewStokes1966
    @AndrewStokes1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hey, awesome. I followed your step by step, straight to the point, videos and fixed my kart. Removed the governor and set it up the way you said. Goes GREAT! And it also fixed my problem of my engine idling so high it kept engaging the centrifugal clutch and had to ride the break to slow it up. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. ♥️❤♥️

  • @CeCe-cx3gq
    @CeCe-cx3gq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When your watching a video on how to do something but then the instructor records everything, except the purpose of the video lmao.... "okay next were going to (video cut) im going to show you on another engine because my camera didn't record" 😂 ????

  • @dham5829
    @dham5829 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just a quick addition you could carefully wiggle the governor arm off by the crank and cut off the elbow below the two crimped wings. Then reinstall just the straight shaft into the case to use the external governor arm for your throttle. By removing the elbow portion you wont have to worry about the arm contacting the crank shaft and its a lot easier than tapping the hole for a screw. I did also remove the plastic gear just for insurance also. Looked fragile since I was inside the case already.

  • @tommygepford33907
    @tommygepford33907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I removed the govenor on my sons predator 224 and the internal low oil sensor and when i got done the engine wouldnt start and i was freaking out because it was my first time !! i ended up finding out its because when i pulled the cam the valve tappets came down a little so i pushed them back up not thinking much of it and later found out that can let the connceting rods fall out of place , so i took the valve cover off and sure enough they came off the rockers so i took it apart and put it back together and ahe fired right up hope this helps anyone who makes the same rookie mistake , i found 1 comment in 15 videos that led me to the problem so i figure i will repost same info!!

  • @mzice9986
    @mzice9986 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    i ran about 6700 rpms and blew the enging up i flew off my minibike at 80 mph. my hair caught on fire . boss hogg that was fun.

    • @hunterpoucher3938
      @hunterpoucher3938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHATS YOURSOC I have done it but i was prepared full race suit and helmet

    • @hunterheimes3002
      @hunterheimes3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You lier

  • @muddymotos5003
    @muddymotos5003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much, I am 13 and just got my first one and I will be following a lot more of your tutorials.

  • @jamesrich7349
    @jamesrich7349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    When you run the dremel tool inside the engine and tap the hole you put metal filings inside the engine that could destroy it.

    • @dumpstergaming310
      @dumpstergaming310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is true... but anyone smart enough to know that there's harmful metal shavings in the engine, knows that you should probably remove them before you seal it up and run it...

    • @bigdog5389
      @bigdog5389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      when tapping them holes put a rag right under the hole your tapping out to catch all the shavings then run a nut in it then check the whole engine before closing it up.

    • @toreywilson5982
      @toreywilson5982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would it hurt to just use a hammer an tap that arm into the motor instead of cutting? I already done it an don't know much so hopefully it won't hurt anything

    • @larryparks7930
      @larryparks7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He cut the arm on the outside of the motor and slid it through if I understood him correctly. So no shavings in the motor.

    • @scrapwire1
      @scrapwire1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@toreywilson5982 I just removed mine by turning the crank into the proper position and doing a little wiggling, then just a light tap and it fell in.

  • @danielguillen3949
    @danielguillen3949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Just unplug the yellow wire. No tools required 🤘🏻

    • @josephramirez3124
      @josephramirez3124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Is that to kill the low level oil sensor

    • @iankerr1549
      @iankerr1549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That does it

    • @BeDisciplineNow
      @BeDisciplineNow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does that really work

    • @BeDisciplineNow
      @BeDisciplineNow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Iankerr does that really work

    • @elboregojhb
      @elboregojhb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BeDisciplineNow YES IT DOES

  • @seeger876
    @seeger876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What size bolt did you use to plug the oil sensor hole

    • @Ghost88890REAL
      @Ghost88890REAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just bring the washers to your local Home depot.

    • @djdjdjdjdjdjde7euryhdxh60
      @djdjdjdjdjdjde7euryhdxh60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1/4 - 20 and you dont need a tap for it just get a self tapping screw

    • @oh_gosh_its_yash
      @oh_gosh_its_yash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      7/16"-14 tap for oil sensor hole

  • @Tyler_heins2524
    @Tyler_heins2524 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What tools, and bolts you needed to plug the holes? Would love to know buying 2 predator motors and I'm going to want to take the governors out.

  • @paspader
    @paspader ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an old predator 212 hemi engine. I removed the governor and am having difficulty getting everything back together. Especially, since I got a throttle plate.
    Don't suppose you could do a video highlighting the steps on do's and don'ts to make sure it'll run?

  • @democratsaretheDEVIL
    @democratsaretheDEVIL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    OK I'm gonna show you how to remove the governor, OK we're back governors out. Skipped the part the video is for.

    • @porky379
      @porky379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He explained exactly what to do in great detail

    • @DatHondaBoi223
      @DatHondaBoi223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@porky379 what’s the point in making a TH-cam VIDEO if he’s just going to explain how he did it, not show it? It makes no sense and it’s not any help at all

    • @porky379
      @porky379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DatHondaBoi223 bro seriously the point of the video is after watching it you know what to do

    • @DatHondaBoi223
      @DatHondaBoi223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@porky379 looks like you’re ratiod

    • @forrestholland3301
      @forrestholland3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmfao same reason I came

  • @Scootertuner1000
    @Scootertuner1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't even try to remove the C clamp, I just cut the spoke if the cog with small pair of wire cutters. All that's left is the hub, it won't spin any more so it's not a problem. For the hole in the crankcase, just use a self tapping bolt with red locktite

  • @camgrubbs1791
    @camgrubbs1791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Couldn’t you just cut the wire to the oil sensor?

  • @Whatsthegeek
    @Whatsthegeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    why don't you jt bypass the wiring from the oil sensor ? It would be much cleaner and you could connect a light io it to tell you when there's a probleme with oil.

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +What's the geek I would just rather remove it all

    • @veikkoh-a3316
      @veikkoh-a3316 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The plastic governor gear will explode at high rpm’s

    • @robspear03
      @robspear03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@veikkoh-a3316 Completely irrelevant to the question asked.

    • @democratsaretheDEVIL
      @democratsaretheDEVIL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought the same its the best block off for that hole.

    • @official.trillwill2568
      @official.trillwill2568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So wait we have to remove all those cables or just cut the oil sensor cable pleas help ?

  • @jamesferron5388
    @jamesferron5388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Considering the time, and chance to just generally ruin something internally, [lose a washer, cause an oil leak, get 'junk' into the crankcase] what are the advantages of actually removing the sensor rather than just unhooking it electronically from the outside? With the same thought in my, why go inside the engine to actually remove the governor internal when it can be bypassed externally? Looking forward to your reply.

    • @bakedpotato1744
      @bakedpotato1744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey it’s a year late but oh well. If you just bypass the governor without removing the plastic gear internally, the gear has a good chance to let go of the metal weights and fling them where you don’t want them. No good.

    • @christianascencio336
      @christianascencio336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bakedpotato1744 and the oil sensor?

  • @nathanthyne5293
    @nathanthyne5293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Extremely helpful. You know what you’re doin! Quick and detailed!

  • @yajmuhs7853
    @yajmuhs7853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol don't forget to plug that governor ARM hole. So you don't spit oil everywhere all around town like I have for the past month lol. Had to rewatch to figure out what I missed.

  • @TT4ME
    @TT4ME 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To plug the hole where the arm was for the governor I just found a bolt that I was able to start without tapping. Got it about half inch in and cut the head off with a dremel because it will never need to be removed.

  • @jedcoons9577
    @jedcoons9577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to you I successfully removed the governor on my 224. Appreciate it. I haven't started it yet but I think I'm good. Lol🤞

  • @bigredjeepyj3436
    @bigredjeepyj3436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Red, if I remove the governor what controls it from over-revving into the stratosphere? Is it possible to stop the rpm's at 5000 or so so I don't have to mod internals? Love the videos, keep up the awesome work.

    • @LNRRidez
      @LNRRidez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe thats why they say to bump up to 18 lb valve springs once you remove the governor.

  • @PunkCoverMoose
    @PunkCoverMoose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I watched until the end because I was going to just bolt the oil sensor hole like you did but tapping it would be better. Thanks for the guide!

  • @camspruill6149
    @camspruill6149 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. For the oil sensor, can I just cut yellow wire the wire on the outside, then cut the black wire on the inside and unbolt and remove the sensor? This way the hole doesn't need to be tapped and bolted and I can just leave the bolt in there?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can just cut the yellow wire and be good

    • @dangerdavepwc
      @dangerdavepwc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedBeardsGarage is there a better way to plug the governor arm hole, or is your method still the preferred way?

  • @RustyShackelferd-yf1ch
    @RustyShackelferd-yf1ch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should add that grease on your tap will prevent most mof the metal chips from falling into the engine. Thanks.

  • @bobdude2360
    @bobdude2360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the info it really helps. I'm in the middle of redoing a manco black fox and this will be the first time I'm attempting any mods on a engine and I don't want to mess it up I just want to have a fun and fast kart to enjoy. Well thanks for the info and like your videos keep up the good work. Peace.

  • @nicholasr1977
    @nicholasr1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Redbeard!! What do we do for the throttle linkage and all that since that governor paddle isn't there any longer ? Wish there was more on that. Would love to see a separate short video on it

    • @holypokey47
      @holypokey47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. There is no linkage to the carburetor without the governor. I was just about to remove mine when I realized that.

  • @fantro1064
    @fantro1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you take the oil sensor out make sure to add a little more oil, to make up for the space!!!

    • @scrapwire1
      @scrapwire1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I usually just fill mine to the level on the stick.

    • @portercole2798
      @portercole2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can I just unplug the sensor?

    • @fantro1064
      @fantro1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@portercole2798 may as well leave it alone if you aren't taking it out

    • @portercole2798
      @portercole2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fantro1064 what is the purpose of removing it?

    • @fantro1064
      @fantro1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@portercole2798 one less thing that could break and destroy the engine, and it makes room for more oil

  • @JNC1973
    @JNC1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this video is several years old but whatever I screwed up today while trying to remove my Governor and stock Cam. I really didn't want to go through the process of removing the Engine itself from the frame of the mini bike so stupid me just left the engine in the frame like it normally is and bike just leaning on it's kickstand. I opened the side cover up and first played around with the governor gear until it finally came lose and i pulled it out with needle nose pliers but when i shined my flashlight in there to make sure i got it all out there was still a piece of white plastic sitting behind where i just took the gear off. Then i tried to remove that little swing arm that sits in front of the governor gear by cutting that little black piece that holds it in place from the top of the engine but i didn't cut it flat against the base where the engine is i cut it about an 8th of an inch above the engine and was gonna tap it down till it fell through with a hammer but i couldn't achieve that yet either cause there wasn't enough room to swing a hammer in that tight little space being the engines still in the frame gas tank in the way and other parts. Then after that i pulled out the stock Cam cause i wanted to stick my new Mod 2 Cam in it's place but as soon as i pulled out the stock cam one of the valve rods slid and fell out before i could catch it and keep it in place lol. I was getting so frustrated at that point i said to myself i should have just taken the damn engine outta the frame and none of this crap would be happening to me right now. Then i just said screw this and i left it sitting there in pieces and walked away from it. I have no idea now how to get that valve rod thing to sit properly in the far hole it fell out of cause i can barely see anything from the side point of view to begin with and even if i do manage to slide the rod back up the hole how do i make it stay up there long enough to get the new cam in place so it can prevent the valve rods from coming out ? I'm totally new to this stuff and feel like i definately bit off more than i can chew here. My poor mini bike is disassembled all over the barn floor and i have to figure out how to put everything back together now. I should have just left it alone but trying to find a mini bike mechanic who knows what the hell he is doing in my neck of the North Carolina woods is proving to be a real challenge. I'm in a small Town called Pinnacle near Pilot Mountain and Mount Airy and Winston-Salem. If anybody happens to know or you are yourself a mini bike mechanic or just know how to do the typical mini bike mods and you're around these areas PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know and i will pay you cash to get my bike modded and put back together again. I'll even throw the bike in the back of my Ram1500 and bring it to you !!! I thought by watching enough how to videos on you tube that i'd be able to pull it off but i be wrong this time lol. Somebody Please Help Me.................. :(

  • @williamdillingham5781
    @williamdillingham5781 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more easier way of deleting the governor shaft is to drive the assembly pin down from the top and out of the block then take the red locktite and put about 2 drops on the end that was on top drive the pin back in until you can feel it start to come through the inside of the block then cut off whatever is on the top of the block flush with the block

  • @RabbitDogz
    @RabbitDogz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been watching your videos and didn't even realize you live in Sweetwater! Lol I'm in vonore

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's awesome man. come down and check me out sometime. I'm up in vonore all the time.

    • @josephatkins6924
      @josephatkins6924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also live in Sweetwater! I’ll be doing this same thing to my engine tomorrow.

  • @calder43
    @calder43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once you cut governor rod how do you run throttle cable ect for mini bike if the governor arm is gone on top ?

  • @bigdog5389
    @bigdog5389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love watching your video's man they have taught me a lot. I spent around 2 hours to get that little ring off the governor to get the plastic gear out. I have a DB30 I'm putting a 212cc predator on with a max torque ss 15 teeth clutch with a 70 tooth back sprocket with a header I'm in the process of ordering my upgraded air filter. What is my ratio gonna be I'm kinda new to this. 70 tooth back sprocket with 15 tooth clutch. Is that a 4.6 ratio?

  • @thebumpus89
    @thebumpus89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have to make any changes to the throttle once governor is removed

  • @Kingbuzz92
    @Kingbuzz92 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually had the c clip push through the back of the plastic. So I grabbed some needle nose players and gently pulled on the plastic gears to break it loose.

  • @tilvalhalla9343
    @tilvalhalla9343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe i didnt hear it but i noticed you didnt mention a flyhweel upgrade after the governor removal. i hear for safety reasons you have to get a billet flywheel because the stock flywheel cant keep up with the speeds of an ungoverned engine and can blow up! Can i just replace the flywheel with a billet or do i HAVE to upgrade the pistons and cam to keep up with new flywheel? money is tight so i dont wanna upgrade the rest if i dont totally have to.

  • @sportsmanxl
    @sportsmanxl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How come you remove the oil sensor? Why not just leave it in and unplug the the oil sensor from the outside?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Theres no real reason other than im already in the engine to remove the governor so why not. Its fine just to unhook it. I feel like without it in there you can hold a small amount of more oil so thats the main reason i do it.

    • @sportsmanxl
      @sportsmanxl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Red Beards Garage oh okay that makes sense. I also have another question, my friend and I are considering removing the governor on our 212 but we're not sure what exactly the main benefit of removing it is. We don't know very much about it, we just see lots of people on TH-cam removing them. Is it like a higher top speed or some other sort of performance boost?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +eric stevens a stock Predator engine only revs to 3400 RPMs so when you remove the governor it'll let you rev to 5000 RPM giving you a little bit more power

    • @sportsmanxl
      @sportsmanxl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Red Beards Garage is there any danger associated with removing the governor? Like do we have to be careful about going full throttle for too long?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +eric stevens you don't need to go above 4400 Roma. It will float the valves. You need to spend $20 and buy 18lb valve springs and then you will be fine.

  • @chrisbesaw8042
    @chrisbesaw8042 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey if any one doesn't have a tap and dye set you can always use the method provided in this video just drill a small hole threw that Bolt after the nut on the outside and put a carter pin in it

  • @kylel3150
    @kylel3150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mini bike motor mount angles motor forward about 10 degrees or so. Should I add oil to engine while it is level then see if the oil sensor trips.

    • @ryan.b1861
      @ryan.b1861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my nigga you should change your name

  • @kraziek316
    @kraziek316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't it be okay to leave them sealed as they are and just cut along the sides ?
    That way you wouldn't have to seal anything.

  • @trevorhill590
    @trevorhill590 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    RB
    I opened the valve cover and realized that my push rods were not engaged after putting it back toward. That's why it wouldn't start. I don't know how to reset them!!! I'm new to the DIY and literally everything I learn is from you.
    Please help

  • @macdc96
    @macdc96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is it necessary to replace the flywheel if we are removing the governor?
    thanks for your reply!!!

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir. They are dangerous at RPMs

    • @macdc96
      @macdc96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage thank you my bearded friend!!!

    • @nutroll4205
      @nutroll4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey red beard I recently removed my governor following your steps and the engine runs perfect after but i don't have a billet flywheel or rod installed only a 22mm carb and torque converter should i be worried about blowing up my engine?

    • @Astro80s
      @Astro80s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nutroll4205 dont hold throttle extended of time

  • @usmcmma
    @usmcmma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should I do new valve springs after the governor removal or can I just run it with the stock valve springs? What would be the advantages to stiffer valve springs and which would you recommend? Thanks for the post!

    • @usmcmma
      @usmcmma 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never mind my question you answered it in another comment. 18lb Valve springs it is. Just not sure about how to gap them.

  • @justinprice6438
    @justinprice6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I apologize if you’ve answered this 1000’s of times already - what is your ideal sprocket set up for acceleration with a predator 6.5? I am restoring a kart for my two sons as a Christmas gift, want them to be able to take off quick.

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would need more information. Clutch or cvt, tire size and engine size

    • @justinprice6438
      @justinprice6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage Will be using a clutch most likely to keep the cost down - it’s a live axle with 15” tires and a predator 212cc non hemi.

  • @MF-le7fp
    @MF-le7fp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably a stupid question...what is the purpose of having a redundant oil fill cap (opposite the dipstick cap), on this engine? Or am I incorrect in thinking both caps access the exact same sump area in the crank case, and use the same fluid (engine oil)?

  • @clee33able
    @clee33able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I have 2 212s hemis and 2 301cc my question is performance wise just adding the exhaust air cleaner kit on 301cc vs adding that to the 212cc.. whats the hp of both and is the 301cc worth the extra $120

  • @sargothi
    @sargothi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a little confused. RBG always has the motor off and seems really involved. I see other videos where they just put their minibike on the side and just pick the governor out with needlenose pliars.

  • @4687878
    @4687878 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you remove the governor, along with changing jets and air filter,.will you only need to change to the 18 lb valve springs to keep from blowing up the engine ?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It keeps it from bending a valve or pushrod

  • @Lamar1956
    @Lamar1956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After removing the govenor, do I need to change anything other than the valve springs?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well a billet rod and flywheel are recommended but you don't have to.

    • @robspear03
      @robspear03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You dont really need to change springs.
      Valve float with be your safety net from popping a rod or flywheel.
      Float happens WELL before those 2 let go, i would know, i race stock 212 class.

  • @MidwestMotoRider
    @MidwestMotoRider 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice short version it will be good help to anyone wanting to do this!

  • @TT4ME
    @TT4ME 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spin the crank just where that arm isn't touching. Stick a small punch or screwdriver in the hole and tap it with a hammer. Pops right out. Did mine 15 minutes ago.

  • @rncboy2
    @rncboy2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you just cut the wire in front of the box or how did you do that on the oil sensor disconnecting it just bought a himi 212 glad it was a himi

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kylee Bates you can just unplug the oil sensor if you like.

    • @rncboy2
      @rncboy2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if I unplug it from it it will still run. Also i just ordered a exhaust and I don't wanna spend the money on a mikuni and I also don't wanna spend 45 bucks for the adapter plate and Air filter and main jet was wondering a cheaper carb to bolt up and will run good with Lil tuning...

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kylee Bates well if you take the lid off your air box it's basically like you are running the air filter kit. Just buy the keys from go power sports for less than 10 and you'll be good to go

    • @rncboy2
      @rncboy2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send me a link please if you don't mind buddy and thank you for the info everything else I be gotten figured out lol

  • @cwyatt06
    @cwyatt06 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the Oil sensor hole can you just cut the wire loose on the inside, pull the wire out, seal the hole where the wire was with silicone, and just use that bolt to seal?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that will work. Just let the silicone dry all the way before adding oil

  • @TheUthe
    @TheUthe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran my throttle wire straght to the governor arm and it seems to be working fine. It seems too easy to do that rather than pulling the case apart. Why is it better to completely remove it?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      overtime it can bust the gear inside the engine and cause some good damage

    • @TheUthe
      @TheUthe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedBeardsGarage i knew it was too easy to bypass that gear. After asking you about it I looked threw the comments on a couple of videos about bypassing it rather than pulling it and that's what i read. I'm going to pull it when I take it out to paint the frame.

    • @TheUthe
      @TheUthe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedBeardsGarage I know you probably spend a ton of time answering questions that to you probably seem like common seance but I've got one for you that I can't find an answer for anywhere on TH-cam. I have a manco thunderbird I've been playing around with. I put a 212 on it and the original gearing is insanely tuorquy. I'm pretty shure someone good at wheelies would have a blast on it. Id like to speed it up a bit to keep up with the guys i ride with while where on road and flats. The rear sprocket is a 72 tooth and the clutch is a 10 tooth. I'd rather change the clutch out than the rear sprocket being that the clutch will probably end up needing to be changed before too long anyways. And I can swap the original pretty easy to take my kids for rides. I found a gearing calculator online and punched in my specs and a 12 tooth in the front don't make much difference with that big sprocket on the back. But a 14 tooth will get me up to about 45. I need to get a 1" sleeve for the shaft to do that and I'm pretty shure they don't make a 3/4 with a 14 tooth for a reason. I just can't figure out why. Will it stress the engine too much?

  • @johnmn42
    @johnmn42 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quick question. So I want to keep the throttle linkage stock... Could I cut that little arm that would engage the governor, and keep it so I could still use the external governor arm for the throttle?

  • @JacobBerry-lo3bm
    @JacobBerry-lo3bm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was an excellent how to video! Lot of good tip’s! Thank you 🫡

  • @chasebabin9068
    @chasebabin9068 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the shaft inside the motor that you broke the governor gear off? Does that not have potential to come out over time? Do you not to go into the crankshaft side and remove that pin totally?

  • @mellseryt3974
    @mellseryt3974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what are the advantages for remove the governor?

  • @lstangel641
    @lstangel641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I removed the governor, the oil sensor with the yellow wire and the box were the yellow wire goes to. I have no spark now. Any idea? It's a good brand new predator 212. I did everything the video said.

  • @FUNNYVlDS
    @FUNNYVlDS ปีที่แล้ว

    What should I purchase after doing this to prevent a hole in the engine

  • @gangsterpranksters3724
    @gangsterpranksters3724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video just really needs to be redone you never once talked about the wiring for the on and off switch after you take the oil sensor out I have no idea if the on off switch will still work if I delete the yellow wire in the box

  • @bobdude2360
    @bobdude2360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey thanks for the reply. So is taking out the oil sensor necessary or can I leave it in. Also once the governor is out do I have to do a direct throttle mod like your one in your video.

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah you will have to do the throttle mod like i did. You don't have to remove the oil sensor but i recommend that you do because it will cause the engine to shut off if riding off road or taking curves hard.

  • @eliezerpomales6118
    @eliezerpomales6118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    red beard s garage what is the difference in eliminating the governor

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lets the engine rev past its governed 3600 rpms

  • @byronvilla-perez6509
    @byronvilla-perez6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size bolts 🔩 did you use to plug the oil sensor and governor hole ???

    • @oh_gosh_its_yash
      @oh_gosh_its_yash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      7/16"-14 = oil sensor
      1/4"-20 = governor arm & gear

  • @joelmccall5807
    @joelmccall5807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I just put a spring that holds the arm back, does it keep the governor from kicking in?

  • @jacoblately1871
    @jacoblately1871 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if i just disconnect everything from the governor arm and leave the arm there with nothing on it and governor still inside my motor

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It can swing around and hit the crank. This actually happen to a subscriber of mine and it broke his piston rod.

    • @goodnameyt6675
      @goodnameyt6675 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage Thanks! everyone shows the governor delete, but no one explains why you need to remove it completely and not just bypass the linkage.

    • @effyoo6081
      @effyoo6081 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if you just removed the arm and not the gear?

    • @rodneyws1977
      @rodneyws1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@effyoo6081, I think the problem is that the gear is fragile plastic and has the potential to spin itself into pieces.

    • @effyoo6081
      @effyoo6081 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodneyws1977 I did mine correctly and took it all out. Exactly what I thought. The plastic can shatter at high rpm.

  • @matthewvangundy7968
    @matthewvangundy7968 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my question is if i was to remove just the spring and the tension bar on top of the engine would it mess up or still activate the govner

  • @coyne250
    @coyne250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you be able to answer this for me red beard. I have a robin EX13 4.5hp I was wondering if they are possibly the same as the predator 212. I’d like to see if I could just up my robin.

  • @KyIntervention
    @KyIntervention 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im at a loss rn bro my buddy and I took his governor out his and I told him let’s put it on the side like I did mine and he wanted to do it w the motor on bike straight up so we j did it n when we took the case off ofc the cam came with it and the rocker arms slid down a lil bit and we pushed em back up lined the cam dot up w the jackshaft and put it all back together. Went to CRANK IT AND NO COMPRESSION!!!! You can j hear the metal spinning when you pull it

  • @paulwelches8826
    @paulwelches8826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What tap do you recommend to use on the oil sensor hole

  • @mikeramirez2707
    @mikeramirez2707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was woundering if yall moded a motvox bike. I couldnt aford a coleman and dont see many vids of people working on them let alone what kind of upgrades i can do. Lmk thanks✊

  • @dr.stevestein1939
    @dr.stevestein1939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you need to put in a billet flywheel with the governor removed?

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your Engine gets really hot or when you use it for hours, your answer would be YES !!!

  • @notverystealthy9165
    @notverystealthy9165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need some help. For some reason the washer that goes behind the governor gear will not come out. It’s almost like it is press guy in. Any ideas on removing it? I have tried a small magnet and that didn’t work

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You just have to keep messing with it. There extremely hard to get out sometimes

    • @notverystealthy9165
      @notverystealthy9165 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage thank you sir!

    • @hotmotorsgarage10
      @hotmotorsgarage10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use a small magnet

  • @georgeduran8938
    @georgeduran8938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I was wondering I just purchased a makuni carb do I have to remove the gonernor for it to work properly I also just added a torque converter

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it will make more power at the governed limit but is much better with the governor out

  • @discipleofchrist5217
    @discipleofchrist5217 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iv got an old school mini baja that im completly redoing. However at the moment i cant afford any motor upgrades so my question is if i remove the governer how long could i ride non stop safely without blowing the motor before i get the funds to completly build the motor?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Extreme Tint & Decals you can ride it for a long time. Just don't hold it wide open for a long time

    • @discipleofchrist5217
      @discipleofchrist5217 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage awesome. I wanna build this engine to go as fast as it possibly can. Piston rod crank cam valves & springs port & polish head carb intake mani custom header and so on. I know where and how to purchase everything however im not sure what exactly to buy since this is my first build and i dont wanna buy the wrong parts and blow it up lol. So any help would be awesome

    • @discipleofchrist5217
      @discipleofchrist5217 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage also if you use a nail you can just tap the pin out and the governer gear and all comes right out then you can tap the pin back in. Super easy i just done it

  • @jaytee3565
    @jaytee3565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you just leave the arm in after removing the governor or shim the arm so you don't have to plug it after? 🤔

  • @stanleyhowe442
    @stanleyhowe442 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ec carbs fucked me real hard never sent my motor or refund so thanks alot for recommending them

  • @timmacon6549
    @timmacon6549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you not tap the low oil sensor like you do the governor arm hole?

  • @neillameier8644
    @neillameier8644 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use Self Tapping Screws to Plug Holes, It's Quicker, Less Work. Also failed to mention the tricky governor washer that gets easily overlooked & gets loose in motor if unremoved.

    • @silvestrepalacios9009
      @silvestrepalacios9009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where do i buy them !?

    • @neillameier8644
      @neillameier8644 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silvestrepalacios9009 everywhere that sells screws.

  • @shepherdricks55
    @shepherdricks55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What will be better if i buy the stage one modification kit or do this

  • @duanewhite3184
    @duanewhite3184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of bolts why not use the Allen wrench head plug what's the difference between the red and the blue loctite

  • @DamnWelfareBums
    @DamnWelfareBums 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the Mikuni carb replacement kit make much of a difference from the stock carb ?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes it is a huge difference. Power and a way better throttle response.

    • @DamnWelfareBums
      @DamnWelfareBums 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage Okay thanks.

  • @josecastro2828
    @josecastro2828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hola buenas noches ....desearia saber si ...al retirar el regulador de revolucion de un motor 6.5 hp , este trae consecuencias negativas en su funcionamiento?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Si usted consigue sobre 6500 rpm entonces podría. Usted necesita hacer los resortes de la válvula 18lb para cerciorarse de usted no flota las válvulas. Usted necesita hacer un volante de palanquilla si desea empujar más de 6500 rpm.

  • @iamyzdemon5717
    @iamyzdemon5717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this worth it for a yerfdog? With the Honda gx190??? Mine has power but it’s not fast. Will this make it faster? And is it a big difference or no?

  • @吳士賢-o2v
    @吳士賢-o2v ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be the effect or change of removing the flywheel?

  • @gwallabaibee
    @gwallabaibee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a predator 212 engine that the pull cord keeps locking up i tried taking the spark plug out and pulling it but it just doesnt budge i have taken the governer off but it was running really good then i shut it off and this happens can you tell me what you think is the problem

  • @josephlong1914
    @josephlong1914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you just run a bolt through the throttle arm?

  • @RunePlate
    @RunePlate 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you remove the governer on the 212, what other mods do you need to have to support it? besides jets/exhaust/intake... should i do billet flywheel/rod and valve springs too?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its good to bullet proof it with the billet parts but a must have is 18lb valve springs

  • @rockcar13
    @rockcar13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What type of oil should I run in mine after doing a governor removal

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just standard 10w-30 is fine. I use synthetic just for its cleansing property's

  • @drj2798
    @drj2798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the predator 301, just removed the governor, do I need a upgraded flywheel and/or 50lbs springs?

  • @brandanmarhefka1263
    @brandanmarhefka1263 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it mandatory to remove the little gold box?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      no not necessarily. but it makes the engine look better. if you remove oil sensor it is useless

    • @brandanmarhefka1263
      @brandanmarhefka1263 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Red Beards Garage because I am having trouble when I get it to run I have to hold the throttle wide open and if I let off the engine will not out and I wasn't sure if it would make a difference

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Brandan Marhefka well air fuel mixture is super finicky on these engines. have you messed with the air box or exhaust?

    • @brandanmarhefka1263
      @brandanmarhefka1263 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Red Beards Garage no everything is stock only removed the Govenor and oil sensor

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Brandan Marhefka when you had the side cover off did you make sure you didn't move the cam out of time?

  • @user-lw8jk6nv7l
    @user-lw8jk6nv7l 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I removed the governor but now it's hard to pull. It easily runs without the spark plug and I've tried swapping for a new cam to see if it was a compression release problem, and I've reset the valve lash. What's wrong?

  • @vangyimleejyaaj4707
    @vangyimleejyaaj4707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well if governor remove should I put a new connecting rod and new valve spring or can I still use the stock one and will these affect anything or will it break

  • @ChristopherSanso1
    @ChristopherSanso1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I removed the governor and oil sensor on a brand new predator 6.5 predator engine that has never been started before and it won't start. I have the switch turned on the run position I have the gas turned on and the Choke on the start position fresh gas and oil is filled. The only thing I can think of is when I was removing the governor the cam shaft fell out I matched up the two small dots I didn't know if it couldve thrown off my values. Any suggestions thanks I don't have it hooked up to a kill switch yet also and oil sensor is removed

  • @ImJoshen
    @ImJoshen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    can you leave the oil censer and take the governer out and it still be good

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Josh Martz you can but I highly recommend you remove it to. It's completely useless on a go kart

    • @ImJoshen
      @ImJoshen 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red Beard's Garage it will be on a chopper bike

    • @robspear03
      @robspear03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImJoshen You can, but its not necessary to do so. Just another hole to plug that may invariably leak.
      Just unplug it. Does the same thing.

  • @chillwill3109
    @chillwill3109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    no need to cut the little paddle arm inside the engine . it will come out without cutting and risk getting any metal shavings in the engine . all you got to do is rotate the crank , slide arm down and the finish the job with a small screw driver and a hammer then plug the hole . I used rtv silicone instead of tapping hole and risking getting some small metal shavings in the engine also .

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I fully clean my engines out after tapping the holes. There is no metal shaving left in the engines when im done.

    • @chillwill3109
      @chillwill3109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Red Beard's Garage I was just saying bro . I like your work and your channel , keep doing what your doing bro !

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man. I appreciate your support.

    • @wadehoward6076
      @wadehoward6076 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mentioned a 1/4'' x 20 tap for the top hole, what size for the sensor hole? I just bought a 212, its still in the box. I want to do all this before I mount it. Thanks man, awesome videos!!

  • @gusduran11
    @gusduran11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey bud why can't I just leave the gear inside and just remove the linkage that goes to the throttle. will that work?

    • @RedBeardsGarage
      @RedBeardsGarage  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to remove the lever that goes though the block because it can hit the crank and cause problems.

  • @jacobneymeiyer9091
    @jacobneymeiyer9091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was tapping the top where the gov hole goes and it cracked the top of the hole. What do I do? Is it done? Can it be fixed?

  • @john-kneebee2143
    @john-kneebee2143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the difference, taking out the governor gear or just use a zip tye on the spring ?

    • @flzeke
      @flzeke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Taking out the governor deletes the rpm limit, putting a zip tie on the spring just reduces the limit. i believe putting on a zip tie allows for 500 more rpm from what i've heard

  • @michaelferguson1909
    @michaelferguson1909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know if its the same as the 301 ?