My mom wouldn’t let me play Battlespire in 1997, so I finally bought it recently and found out why. Straight up naked women. The 90s were a fun time. I do think the game would benefit a lot from a unity port like Daggerfall did, and a bit of a rework.
A port takes a massive amount of work to complete and for a game that doesn't have much replay potential doesn't make too much sense. It's a much better idea to take the assets and recreate the game in daggerfall unity. Granted, there _is_ a unity project to remake redguard in Unity and they've made a lot of progress on the game, but redguard is a whole thing with it's own special game mechanics and a redone graphics pipeline, where as battlespire is upgraged daggerfall
I think my favorite part about the story is the idea of a snubbed bureaucrat from Oblivion helping the apprentice stop the Battlespire invasion purely because he was salty about his faction pulling a stunt like this when they didn't have the manpower to actually hold the position.
Honestly I liked the Redguard video being such a healthy length. For games as old and under-discussed as that, it's nice to get into the nitty gritty details.
Playing obscure old Elder Scrolls titles so we don't have to. I actually started caring about TES lore solely through your channel. Already looking forward to the next video, no matter how long it takes
Can't believe that this is the first time I've seen gameplay of this. // Those side bars and the ads are really funny. You're the right amount of crazy^^
22:51 Old lore is that the Empire and by extension Cryodiil was home to a lot of dragons. Found the quote. “The heart of the province being what you think of when you think of a traditional jungle, tumbling down to the fields of large rice paddies that fed the Empire, guarded by Romanesque troops and dragons everywhere. The Imperial City was to be vast, rolling across wetlands and swamps, with large sections lost and overgrown, full of too many cults to count, the oldest temples having obviously been around since the Merethic Era. Then Todd watched The Fellowship of the Ring and mistakes were made.”
I always figured it was less that and more just they wanted the contrast for the story. The Paradise to be lost against the Hell of Oblivion. If Cyrodiil was a fetid swamp and jungle filled with dragons and such as that line suggests... well... video games usually don't make those pleasant places you want to stick around in. Generally they're designed to be as ass as possible for everything from navigation to aesthetics. Even if real life wetlands can be quite beautiful in their own way.
@@hitomisalazar4073 could’ve had more varied environmental areas. Like keep the Gold Coast as it is, and the colovian highlands the same. But make county cheydenhal down to bravil into a more jungle like environment, Blackwood into a swamp down to leyawinn, have marshes and wetlands mixed in. Maybe even an Everglade type environment down south, wetlands around the Imperial city region. Would’ve just been better for it to stick to the lore instead of changing it and retconning it. Even tho in morrowind they mention cyrodiil being a jungle province mainly. Edit: also. They could’ve also make the colovian highlands more like Scottish temperate rain forests, with rolling hills of trees. That would’ve been interesting to see, I don’t recall any game with a temperate rain forest.
@@magnusthered9635 I kinda like some of the changes. The best one being the dragon thing. I feel like retconning the dragons to be a near extinct race that was once worshiped by men a good thing. However I do feel like the oblivion region is kinda a bit bland. It feels like it should really be the crossroads of the biomes of the other provinces as its basically inbetween all the important ones & thus should have some more varied biomes.
22:51 To add to the dragon lore, TES: Blades, which takes place in Cyrodil, is littered with dragon bones. They could have been resurrected once Alduin returned, but I don't think Bethesda cares enough about their own lore to explore those implications, especially when it's in regards to a game most of the fanbase hasn't played.
@@thecatthatgotaway If I recall correctly, they had more of an involvement with 76 than the mobile games. They distanced themselves from 76 after the poor launch. But a solid chunk of the main team's designers were part of the pre-launch development of 76. And I wouldn't consider it non-canon just because the main team didn't work on it. If we did then that would make new vegas non-canon and Kirkbride's post-morrowind writings canon. For both good and ill, the current canon exists amongst the officially licensed products -- retcons and all. Unless it's publicly denied like Tactics and Brotherhood
Oh dear, has my video on this game been dethroned? I'm yet to watch much of this video but I admire the dedication to this bizarre little curiosity. Curious what conclusions a 2 hour video will come to at the end, but I don't want to spoil it for myself. Personally, I still like this game more than Oblivion. It's still not particularly good, though. Just a archetypical 90s dungeon crawler with Elder Scrolls trappings. Best dungeons in the franchise by a significant margin, though that ain't saying much.
Im probably the only person who loved this game back in the 90's. Even today, of all the games in the series I think its the most interesting as far as lore goes. I also love the look. The gameplay....its not great. I'll admit it. But everything is very enjoyable.
The biggest problem with this game is that its the only original Elder scrolls game you have to pay for on steam. Like please just make it free & let the modders port it to Unity so that we can play it easier.
so happy this mess has a full retrospective. usually people just do the old youtube gamer "uuugh this game, its bad, here's some half-assed reasons why god look at this it sucks I don't wanna play it anymore" whinge.
This might very well be my favorite long-form video game review. Im going to share this with my friends, at least the ones who aren't scared of skeletons and scantily clad women. Which isn't that many people to be honest but I hope you appreciate the effort.
Hey I found Battlespire & Redguard on sale and figured to look up yt reviews of them to see whether or not they're worth getting. I saw you haven't uploaded in a couple months but I have to say your content is absolutely brilliant and kinda reminds me of Hbomberguy with the editing & narration! Subscribed and hope to see more of your content hopefully soon
As somebody who played and beat Battlespire multiple times (not when it came out but around 2017/18) I love this video and I love the game! The lore is amazing and I actually (no seriously) like the game itself but I understand it's drawbacks.... I'd really like to see a decent remake of Battlespire and Redguard! EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
I don't even like elder scrolls but I love this video. You've got a skill to make literally anything interesting and funny Keep doing what you do best bro, I'm loving it
As much of a bad idea it might be, i would love it if they kinda brought the battlespire back, maybe as a questline or a dlc in the future. I doubt it would be pulled off fantastically, but the idea is so damn cool
Hello and greetings from Ukraine (of all places). I loved both analysis pieces with all my heart and I noticed you haven’t published videos in a while. Please do. You’re gonna be one of the top channels on TES with this level of narration and editing. I LOVE IT. Watched redguard like 5 times already. I love you, dude. I need more videos. Your fan, Rita
Can appreciate the effort to show off a quite frankly Awful 90s PC game instead of spending 1 hour 48 minutes recapping the mage guild subplots to me and telling me they're unfinished. You should try other Gold Box Era PC games like Baldurs Gate or Thief or something that's be interesting
Like a Patrician Light, nice. Even did his sidebar ads gag. I liked my time with Battlespire (and Redguard, for that matter;) but then, I played them when they came out, and this is better than a lot of dungeon crawlers at the time by virtue of at least having a setting with lore and not just... you know. Going to the next level cause that's where the level ending tile takes you.
I fucking love the names of places in this game. They were cooking with “weir gate”, “shade perilous”, and “slipstream realm”.
Chimera of DESOLATION!
My mom wouldn’t let me play Battlespire in 1997, so I finally bought it recently and found out why. Straight up naked women. The 90s were a fun time. I do think the game would benefit a lot from a unity port like Daggerfall did, and a bit of a rework.
Daggerfall too has straight up naked women, lol
Cant agree more about reworks. Holy crap the controls are abysmal
I didn't play it in 1997. I was born in December that year. c:
my mom bought me gta 5 when it came out. i’m glad she didn’t care about r rated games 😂
A port takes a massive amount of work to complete and for a game that doesn't have much replay potential doesn't make too much sense. It's a much better idea to take the assets and recreate the game in daggerfall unity. Granted, there _is_ a unity project to remake redguard in Unity and they've made a lot of progress on the game, but redguard is a whole thing with it's own special game mechanics and a redone graphics pipeline, where as battlespire is upgraged daggerfall
I think my favorite part about the story is the idea of a snubbed bureaucrat from Oblivion helping the apprentice stop the Battlespire invasion purely because he was salty about his faction pulling a stunt like this when they didn't have the manpower to actually hold the position.
I fell asleep with this video playing on the bedroom TV and woke up at 2 am to "I LONG FOR THE GREAT RELEASE THAT DEATH WILL BRING" 10/10
And he did that shit on purpose, too.
The first and last video of his I ever watch.
@@tylerthompson3075was kind of a dick move
@@justinwainwright5069god you people piss me off😂
begone then, no one wanted you here anyway
Honestly I liked the Redguard video being such a healthy length. For games as old and under-discussed as that, it's nice to get into the nitty gritty details.
Playing obscure old Elder Scrolls titles so we don't have to. I actually started caring about TES lore solely through your channel. Already looking forward to the next video, no matter how long it takes
Can't believe that this is the first time I've seen gameplay of this.
// Those side bars and the ads are really funny. You're the right amount of crazy^^
How does this not have more views? Excellent retrospective.
I love these retrospective videos you make dude. Keep them coming and I'll keep watching.
22:51
Old lore is that the Empire and by extension Cryodiil was home to a lot of dragons. Found the quote.
“The heart of the province being what you think of when you think of a traditional jungle, tumbling down to the fields of large rice paddies that fed the Empire, guarded by Romanesque troops and dragons everywhere. The Imperial City was to be vast, rolling across wetlands and swamps, with large sections lost and overgrown, full of too many cults to count, the oldest temples having obviously been around since the Merethic Era.
Then Todd watched The Fellowship of the Ring and mistakes were made.”
I always figured it was less that and more just they wanted the contrast for the story. The Paradise to be lost against the Hell of Oblivion. If Cyrodiil was a fetid swamp and jungle filled with dragons and such as that line suggests... well... video games usually don't make those pleasant places you want to stick around in. Generally they're designed to be as ass as possible for everything from navigation to aesthetics. Even if real life wetlands can be quite beautiful in their own way.
@@hitomisalazar4073 could’ve had more varied environmental areas. Like keep the Gold Coast as it is, and the colovian highlands the same. But make county cheydenhal down to bravil into a more jungle like environment, Blackwood into a swamp down to leyawinn, have marshes and wetlands mixed in. Maybe even an Everglade type environment down south, wetlands around the Imperial city region. Would’ve just been better for it to stick to the lore instead of changing it and retconning it. Even tho in morrowind they mention cyrodiil being a jungle province mainly.
Edit: also. They could’ve also make the colovian highlands more like Scottish temperate rain forests, with rolling hills of trees. That would’ve been interesting to see, I don’t recall any game with a temperate rain forest.
@@magnusthered9635 I kinda like some of the changes. The best one being the dragon thing. I feel like retconning the dragons to be a near extinct race that was once worshiped by men a good thing. However I do feel like the oblivion region is kinda a bit bland. It feels like it should really be the crossroads of the biomes of the other provinces as its basically inbetween all the important ones & thus should have some more varied biomes.
"Who you calling brittle, ice boy?" Is now stuck in my brain. So fucking funny 😂
1:45:00 "what are the lore implications of this?"
"don't even fucking start"
Absolutely shocked this only has 5k views, excellent work with this
Another great video. I dare you to do one now on elder scrolls
Blades. That takes a true hero and warrior to suffer through that game.
A sincere thank you from the sleep gang my dude, very good
I'll have to rewatch this video, but I love that I can catch up to the spin off lore :3
22:51
To add to the dragon lore, TES: Blades, which takes place in Cyrodil, is littered with dragon bones. They could have been resurrected once Alduin returned, but I don't think Bethesda cares enough about their own lore to explore those implications, especially when it's in regards to a game most of the fanbase hasn't played.
Isn't blades like 76 where Bethesda has almost nothing to do with it lol
@@thecatthatgotaway If I recall correctly, they had more of an involvement with 76 than the mobile games. They distanced themselves from 76 after the poor launch. But a solid chunk of the main team's designers were part of the pre-launch development of 76.
And I wouldn't consider it non-canon just because the main team didn't work on it. If we did then that would make new vegas non-canon and Kirkbride's post-morrowind writings canon. For both good and ill, the current canon exists amongst the officially licensed products -- retcons and all. Unless it's publicly denied like Tactics and Brotherhood
I know this hasnt been as popular as the redguard one, but youve become one of my favourite youtube channels man, hope you keep going.
Oh dear, has my video on this game been dethroned?
I'm yet to watch much of this video but I admire the dedication to this bizarre little curiosity. Curious what conclusions a 2 hour video will come to at the end, but I don't want to spoil it for myself.
Personally, I still like this game more than Oblivion. It's still not particularly good, though. Just a archetypical 90s dungeon crawler with Elder Scrolls trappings. Best dungeons in the franchise by a significant margin, though that ain't saying much.
In the TES lore there are airships, so the balloon thing is 100% lore friendly XD.
Im probably the only person who loved this game back in the 90's. Even today, of all the games in the series I think its the most interesting as far as lore goes. I also love the look. The gameplay....its not great. I'll admit it. But everything is very enjoyable.
The biggest problem with this game is that its the only original Elder scrolls game you have to pay for on steam. Like please just make it free & let the modders port it to Unity so that we can play it easier.
Daggerfall Unity should include this as DLC!
The dungeons were the best part in Daggerfall.
so happy this mess has a full retrospective. usually people just do the old youtube gamer "uuugh this game, its bad, here's some half-assed reasons why god look at this it sucks I don't wanna play it anymore" whinge.
This might very well be my favorite long-form video game review. Im going to share this with my friends, at least the ones who aren't scared of skeletons and scantily clad women. Which isn't that many people to be honest but I hope you appreciate the effort.
Hey I found Battlespire & Redguard on sale and figured to look up yt reviews of them to see whether or not they're worth getting. I saw you haven't uploaded in a couple months but I have to say your content is absolutely brilliant and kinda reminds me of Hbomberguy with the editing & narration!
Subscribed and hope to see more of your content hopefully soon
As somebody who played and beat Battlespire multiple times (not when it came out but around 2017/18) I love this video and I love the game! The lore is amazing and I actually (no seriously) like the game itself but I understand it's drawbacks.... I'd really like to see a decent remake of Battlespire and Redguard! EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
He does it again, thank you.
I don't even like elder scrolls but I love this video. You've got a skill to make literally anything interesting and funny
Keep doing what you do best bro, I'm loving it
This is my favorite game of all time
Great video! I'm glad to see another TES analysis and can't wait for more
btw, what song did you use for the chapter cards, like 8:29 ?
it's something i was working on a while ago but never finished, decided to recylce it for use here.
Your mic picks up wet mouth sounds, is that intentional?
I thought I was going crazy
As much of a bad idea it might be, i would love it if they kinda brought the battlespire back, maybe as a questline or a dlc in the future. I doubt it would be pulled off fantastically, but the idea is so damn cool
Did I just see a Brenton hanging brain?
Hello again! Finally got around to this one. Despite its shortcomings its one of my favs still. Looking forwarod to the Shadowkey retrospective too ;)
I liked the sidebar ads that you made for the video. Lots of fun!
Students running around naked punching summoned creatures? What kind of school is this? 😂
Hello and greetings from Ukraine (of all places). I loved both analysis pieces with all my heart and I noticed you haven’t published videos in a while. Please do. You’re gonna be one of the top channels on TES with this level of narration and editing. I LOVE IT. Watched redguard like 5 times already. I love you, dude. I need more videos.
Your fan,
Rita
Your filling in a niche i was looking for ive been looking for videos on this game and redguard for a while.
Only crazy people like you are picking at these ancient games, thanks for the vid and you get a sub.
Don't mind me, I'm just doing the algorithm stuff.
Great video btw looking forward to more vids!
Subbed. Just finished your redguard video last week, now onto this one!
This was great, thank you. I love videos on old games I'll definitely never play.
Amazing Starfield review at the last minute there.
Really enjyoed this and the Redguard video. Not much attention on these games so it's interesting to see more about them.
Why does mister fister kinda look like asmongold 😭
Woooo you are back!
You watch simpleflips too bro? That mention of gay baby jail caught me off guard lol
why the hell did the battlespire explode
Can appreciate the effort to show off a quite frankly Awful 90s PC game instead of spending 1 hour 48 minutes recapping the mage guild subplots to me and telling me they're unfinished. You should try other Gold Box Era PC games like Baldurs Gate or Thief or something that's be interesting
@@DrPippy I've wanted to make a thief video for a long time. Might get round to it at some point
Can’t wait !
Highly underrated channel
You should upload more, or give me a message and join me to make some goofy ass elder scrolls gaffs together ☺️
After watching retrospective on good games its fun seeing broken games done.
Solid video, it deserves far more views than it's getting. Thanks for playing this crap so that I don't have to.
"ba'ull spayuh"
I am hoping for all of the old school Elder Scoll games to be posted to Unity
48:51 LMAO!
"closest to a Brit" yeah, Sload have never been playable in elder scrolls.
30:44 go woke, go broke, I guess
What a fantastic video
Whats the track for the title cards?
that's a homemade concoction. whipped up in about an hour, i think
At least this game doesn’t need adult mods…
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1:10:00
Gem
1:11:30 see runescape
I don’t think the inclusion of sexy women is automatically sexist
holy shit instant subscribe. please consider checking out shadowkey for one of these
Like a Patrician Light, nice. Even did his sidebar ads gag. I liked my time with Battlespire (and Redguard, for that matter;) but then, I played them when they came out, and this is better than a lot of dungeon crawlers at the time by virtue of at least having a setting with lore and not just... you know. Going to the next level cause that's where the level ending tile takes you.
Fam if you can't pronounce a word try and minimize the amount you say it. You said cairn wrong like 30 times in 2 minutes.
thanks. comments like this help me in the algorithm 👍
@@crendlability to take criticism. Subbed.
The elder scrolls with no ambition is just skyrim. Literally.
Bethesda lore is so much more interesting than Elder Scrolls lore.
And often times, they are the same thing
Retrospective game is getting saturated