Love seeing strategy with gunpowder infantry! Playing WH3 with gunpowder feels like all i do is lord snipe single entity. Thanks for doing FoS disasters, Legend!
Small tip for all yall FOTS players; research "Suppressive Fire" tech, this gives Line Infantry an ability to greatly increase rate of fire at reduced accuracy. Thats why you combine foreign veterans into your armies for exp training and accuracy bonus. Using "Ganbatte" and "Suppressive Fire" at the same time make the basic Line Infantry into stack wiping monsters.
The General having read "Napoleon in Egypt. Prepared hoping the enemy would duplicate Murat Bey.."Ganbare (頑張れ) or ganbatte (頑張って) is a Japanese phrase that means “Come on!” “Let's go!” or “Go for it!” in English
After playing through the whole Yakuza series and being told by basically every companion NPC to “Ikuzo!” I assume that’s more the equivalent of “let’s go!” So I think “Ganbatte!” is more like “Go for it!” or “Good luck!” Sort of an encouragement to do well. Also I remember the Japanese name of the Goemon games was something like “Ganbare Goemon,” which was sort of like “Good Luck, Goemon” in English. Though obviously, picking up the occasional Japanese word from video games is hardly the best way to learn the language.
a) Nice cost effective army setup. Also the difference between experienced and non experienced troops can be staggering. Also noticed myself how 5 Parrot guns are a good number, 4 feel just a little bit not enough and 6 feel too much. :) b) Now another question for me is for FOTS because of artillery : could it be more advantageous to actually allow large army size since that means all their troops will on top of each other and closely bunched more often like and you can batter several regiments with more easy, even though this time you have no choice since being a defender. :)
WH3 CAN be gunpowder total war with the right factions. Nuln and Masters of Innovation can run very funny gunpowder armies. I think Chorfs can too, but I haven't played them yet. My favorite way to play the game.
I glad you enjoyed this battle. I actually tried that battle one time after sending you the save file. Surprisingly, the game gave me another map with one smaller hill in the middle. Technically I won that battle (lost 2k, kill 10k), however game did not let me finish battle, and I had to accept defeat. It is sad that CA doesn't fix old games, especially such master pieces like FOTS.
I've learned more about these older(ish) total war games from watching these videos than I've known about any single game ever and somehow I still learn more every video...(i've played total war for years but I never got good enough to play on legendary) also I didn't even know you could kill the general so fast it wouldn't pop up the notification....that was GLORIOUS
I really hope you don't quit doing FoTS battles from time to time even when playing other tw games. I enjoy playing wh3 but you made me realize how good the historical games used to be.
I remember I had a 19 slot army of fully upgraded gatling guns. It was hilarious because they'd mow down 9/10's of the enemy army before they even got into range. (fully upgraded means with a firing range and one of the armorer provinces fully upgraded for accuracy). They were expensive af, but I could be attacked by 4 different full slot armies and still come out victorious. It was glorious.
good idea for a video would be to put a disaster battle up online where other people can attempt to win it, then you could go through their videos, and then you do the battle!
There´s an awesome song by Sabaton titled 40:1, i REALLY recommend it to anyone who likes either symphonic power metal or history. It´s best if you like both.
Probably got ballsy cause he's got 5 artillery, and you could usually deal with a lot of outnumbered scenarios with that. Seems like he just wasn't prepared for forest battles and wasn't able to snipe the generals to make the enemy rout faster.
You can smoke pretty much anything given a solid enough Frontline and enough artillery. Unless forests... Forests really limits the usefulness of artillery unless deployed appropriately.
3:52 Just started playing this game, this music is epic. Started with fall of samurai, i have 5 Line infantry and they have 10. Stuck. Tried to find Legend's email but couldn't.
When you’re outnumbered four to one, the deciding factor is really: 1. Do they have decent artillery / more than you? 2. Do you have more bullets than they have men 3rd one is who is attacking lol God is Good when he grants me defensive battles on unfavorable numbers with gunpowder units or any of thek
It is its own game, but I've heard that if you buy fots before shogun 2 then you can't buy shogun 2 afterwards or smt (cause fots is technically a dlc of s2 so steam thinks you've already bought it). Don't know if it's been fixed but be careful
Does shogun 2 notify you more than once when generals die? Could be that- actually due to how xp is allocated maybe only the first general even counts properly.
Day 4 of asking LegendofTotalWar to do this challange "Here is a challange that might be nearly impossible: Play fall of the samurai, play as Aizu, you cannot change to the imperialists, you can only use traditional units, has to be at development 1 (default) and not increase it, you have to do a full conquest, has to atleast give time for the enemies to get modern guns, IF you manage to win you can indeed proof that samurais were far from being obsolete, goodluck!" You will need it
he already say that traditional only campaign is not fun, because you gimp yourself not having artillery (and artillery are gods in fots) except you have rule that you can use artillery but need to be captured from the enemy. maybe that can be fun.
You need to have at least 1 ship in a "fleet" of any kind and move your army into it at a port. A full 20-stack can fit on a little gunboat. You can only fit a maximum of 20 units in a given fleet; if you have more than 20 units, you have to make more than one army and put it into more than one fleet. Works the same in base Shogun 2.
Not gonna lie, these "I have lots of artillery and the AI has none or just one or two" Battles getting boring. It doesnt really matter if the Player is outnumbered or not. If the player has like 4-6 artillery units and decent gunpowder units he is gonna win anyways. The only decision the Player has to make is where he deploys his units.
Of course he is going to win. These videos are informational. Positioning is everything in this game and these battles show in great detail how to properly do it. I have learned so much on how to correctly use the terrain.
@@ordohereticus5530 Just my opinon but i wouldnt call FotS a great game to showcase or learn about positioning. All you do is sit back with your gunpowder/artillery units and barely move them. Basicly you just wait for the AI to suicide Charge you. Games like Medieval 2 are way better for this.
Honestly the amount of Shogun 2 is getting way overdone at this point. All of the battles are the same. "Use your artillery to kill most of the enemy forces. Use your infantry to protect your artillery." Sure that's the basis of a lot of total war games, but most of them at least have a varied roster. Definitely fine with historical content but it needs to at least be interesting historical content.
WTF, why this dude got loads of levys, mixed upgraded line inf, parrot guns, no cav at all, none of the better infantry than the line inf. Not much fun potential.
It's cost effective. This army can be recruited really early (hence Parrotts, not Armstrongs), it's ok to just keep it. Levy army probably for public order.
Still not sure how people can't win battles like this. They're against almost pure trash with a much better army, with artillery vs none. As shown the AI doesn't even try to utilise its ranged units.
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11:55 Seeing those 4 Parrot Guns cannonballs hit the poor AI Commander in perfect sync was so satisfying 😂.
Not sure I've ever seen an entire unit just cease to exist like that, damn.
Horse confetti
5*...or 20 cannons xD
@@mandowarrior123 That is both hilarious and horrifying to imagine.
Legend: Kill that General
Parrot Guns: DELETE THAT UNIT! *20 Cannonballs landing in sync*
“Meme them untill they cry…
Then make memes about them crying!”
-Sun Tzu:
“The Art of War”
Seems legit.
Probably
2000% he said this
"I have lots of artillery, they dont."
- Son Choo, Smoking the Enemies Ch. 2 ver. 1
God fights on the side with the best artillery
Love seeing strategy with gunpowder infantry! Playing WH3 with gunpowder feels like all i do is lord snipe single entity. Thanks for doing FoS disasters, Legend!
The big difference is that things actually die when you shoot them in Shogun 2
Also the amount of smoke that covers the field of battle
Also they actually reload their guns in Shogun 2
There are actual lines of infantry as well.
Somehow Yoshi doesn't want to shoot right through his friend's head like WH3 troops.
@@LKHEMAnewer units have reload animations
More deaths than the actual irl fall of the samurai.
The whole "Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen" meme, with Black Sabbath playing over the artillery, just got a new lease on life.
Mark my words, Legend. I'll send you a traditional unit doomstack in a few days.
Shogotai only
@@LOL-zu1zrstill will takes lots of casualties cz u still have to trade in melee and morden units are not that bad in melee
"God is on the side of the one with the most artillery"
Soldier: "General! They outnumber us 4 to 1!"
Legend: "Then it is an even fight..."
Small tip for all yall FOTS players; research "Suppressive Fire" tech, this gives Line Infantry an ability to greatly increase rate of fire at reduced accuracy. Thats why you combine foreign veterans into your armies for exp training and accuracy bonus. Using "Ganbatte" and "Suppressive Fire" at the same time make the basic Line Infantry into stack wiping monsters.
The General having read "Napoleon in Egypt. Prepared hoping the enemy would duplicate Murat Bey.."Ganbare (頑張れ) or ganbatte (頑張って) is a Japanese phrase that means “Come on!” “Let's go!” or “Go for it!” in English
After playing through the whole Yakuza series and being told by basically every companion NPC to “Ikuzo!” I assume that’s more the equivalent of “let’s go!” So I think “Ganbatte!” is more like “Go for it!” or “Good luck!” Sort of an encouragement to do well.
Also I remember the Japanese name of the Goemon games was something like “Ganbare Goemon,” which was sort of like “Good Luck, Goemon” in English. Though obviously, picking up the occasional Japanese word from video games is hardly the best way to learn the language.
a) Nice cost effective army setup. Also the difference between experienced and non experienced troops can be staggering. Also noticed myself how 5 Parrot guns are a good number, 4 feel just a little bit not enough and 6 feel too much. :)
b) Now another question for me is for FOTS because of artillery : could it be more advantageous to actually allow large army size since that means all their troops will on top of each other and closely bunched more often like and you can batter several regiments with more easy, even though this time you have no choice since being a defender. :)
I have fallen in love with FotS since returning to it with Legends coverage. Makes me hope for another gunpowder Total War in the future
WH3 CAN be gunpowder total war with the right factions. Nuln and Masters of Innovation can run very funny gunpowder armies. I think Chorfs can too, but I haven't played them yet. My favorite way to play the game.
@@highadmiralbittenfield9689 gunpowder does not a gunpowder total war make
@@benaskalinskas4154 i know what you mean, but I am saying that you can get a semblance of that gameplay.
I glad you enjoyed this battle. I actually tried that battle one time after sending you the save file. Surprisingly, the game gave me another map with one smaller hill in the middle. Technically I won that battle (lost 2k, kill 10k), however game did not let me finish battle, and I had to accept defeat. It is sad that CA doesn't fix old games, especially such master pieces like FOTS.
I've learned more about these older(ish) total war games from watching these videos than I've known about any single game ever and somehow I still learn more every video...(i've played total war for years but I never got good enough to play on legendary) also I didn't even know you could kill the general so fast it wouldn't pop up the notification....that was GLORIOUS
I love seeing the Shogun 2 content! Plus it's good to see Legend enjoying the game as well
never get bored with the fots battles, keep it going legend 🔥
Your advisor didn't call the death of that second General because there were no pieces of him left big enough to identify.
Been playing a lot of fots recently because of your videos. Keep up the awesome work!
12:00 that was a bit overkill 😂
I really hope you don't quit doing FoTS battles from time to time even when playing other tw games. I enjoy playing wh3 but you made me realize how good the historical games used to be.
and may still be, if CA ever gets their shit together...or better, if a new name rises to do what they used to do
@StopFlaggingVideos they won't lol. Hero units and junk from Warhammer are here to stay. Too much newblood came from those games for them to go back
12:00 oh man that was so satisfying to watch
You killed that general so fast I think the game was just speechless
Absolutely loving the Shogun 2 and FotS content!
These battles are why Fall of the Samurai is my favorite Total War game.
4 to 1? The odds are in my favor.
I remember I had a 19 slot army of fully upgraded gatling guns. It was hilarious because they'd mow down 9/10's of the enemy army before they even got into range. (fully upgraded means with a firing range and one of the armorer provinces fully upgraded for accuracy). They were expensive af, but I could be attacked by 4 different full slot armies and still come out victorious. It was glorious.
"I like them three men deep" ... me too Legend; me too :'D
The Gods really smile down on us with so much Shogun 2 content lately.
Day #10 of asking Legend to bring back his old outro quote "See you next time... Fuckers!"
good idea for a video would be to put a disaster battle up online where other people can attempt to win it, then you could go through their videos, and then you do the battle!
There´s an awesome song by Sabaton titled 40:1, i REALLY recommend it to anyone who likes either symphonic power metal or history. It´s best if you like both.
WE REMEMBER IN SEPTEMBER WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS DID NOT ARRIVE!
I wish I had a battle like this in my campaign. AI actually using intelligent tactics... I'm envious
now that's a heroic victory if I ever saw one.
4 to 1! killed 7k units with an army of 3k! god damn.
Close victory that's bullshit
Thats a magnificent stupendous gargantuan heroic victory
Sounds like my average game in 40k 'oh i'm only outnumbered 4 to 1' not 'we have even numbers' that's when I start to worry.
Could the general have shattered, but have one single general unit alive ? I don't really see anything moving after that carpet though
If the general got stuck somewhere like on a house it can happen but i'm pretty sure that didn't happen here.
I feel like thsi guy could have retreated and fought them onw by one, this feels like an intentional disaster
Probably got ballsy cause he's got 5 artillery, and you could usually deal with a lot of outnumbered scenarios with that. Seems like he just wasn't prepared for forest battles and wasn't able to snipe the generals to make the enemy rout faster.
@@madensmith7014 can't blame him I get into these kinds of battles all the time cause I want a challenge
You can smoke pretty much anything given a solid enough Frontline and enough artillery.
Unless forests... Forests really limits the usefulness of artillery unless deployed appropriately.
11:59 I made the same noise, what a shot, that'd demoralize any army lol
3:52
Just started playing this game, this music is epic.
Started with fall of samurai, i have 5 Line infantry and they have 10. Stuck. Tried to find Legend's email but couldn't.
It is in the description of every video. Nearly at the top
If there is a hill, there is a way!
It's a lot of trash that's quite tired. -- And I took that personaly.
Shogun has such fantastic artillery
As a Pole, I see 4 to 1 as fair odds.
A Pole gets used on both ends, 2-1 is the usual odds, but normally losses.
@@Sufferingzifylmao
When you’re outnumbered four to one, the deciding factor is really:
1. Do they have decent artillery / more than you?
2. Do you have more bullets than they have men
3rd one is who is attacking lol God is Good when he grants me defensive battles on unfavorable numbers with gunpowder units or any of thek
i actually really like levy infantry. epically for settlement holding it can easily beat a stack of red bears
You completely erased that general lol
FOUR TO ONE
WHEN THE GUN... ehhh MEETS THE GUN!
4 to 1 odds? Those poor fools. They'll need a lot more troops to be able to defeat Legend.
I was going to buy shogun 2 because of you, but then I saw that fots had been split into its own game and that I now had to pay for blood effects.
You can buy fots seperately
But fall of the samurai was always its own game lol
It is its own game, but I've heard that if you buy fots before shogun 2 then you can't buy shogun 2 afterwards or smt (cause fots is technically a dlc of s2 so steam thinks you've already bought it). Don't know if it's been fixed but be careful
The blood pack is not worth it.
Buy during a sale very cheap
Does shogun 2 notify you more than once when generals die? Could be that- actually due to how xp is allocated maybe only the first general even counts properly.
That was my thought too!
I'm not sure it always tells you when the second etc general dies?
11:59 for the most satisfying moment in this video.
This one was truly epic
love your stuff i was wondering if you knew how to mod total war 2
I'd love to see a battle replay but from the enemies perspective lol
Love vídeos about this game
AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE.
Day 4 of asking LegendofTotalWar to do this challange "Here is a challange that might be nearly impossible: Play fall of the samurai, play as Aizu, you cannot change to the imperialists, you can only use traditional units, has to be at development 1 (default) and not increase it, you have to do a full conquest, has to atleast give time for the enemies to get modern guns, IF you manage to win you can indeed proof that samurais were far from being obsolete, goodluck!"
You will need it
he already say that traditional only campaign is not fun, because you gimp yourself not having artillery (and artillery are gods in fots)
except you have rule that you can use artillery but need to be captured from the enemy. maybe that can be fun.
@@RuzaranehWell, the fun in that is to think outside of the box, trying to do strategies to win against enemies who can kill you from far away
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After picking up Shogun 2, Empire and Medieval 2 I have no interest in going back to Warhammer.
Exquisit carnage
Meanwhile real life Napoléon winning 10v1 battles
My game crash to desktop when select daimyo army on campaign map! I can’t do anything! Game keep crash without show anything! Can you help me fix it?
File Path: C:\Users\[Your user name]\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Shogun2\scripts
Delete those files
Hopefully this helps.
@@Vuile25 i did it, the problem still not solve
Got any earlier saves to try?
Looking at some of these older titles. The game look way better than WH3.
good job
my shogun2 wont even start from steam anyone know why?
You are outnumbered by enemy troops, advise aggressive, sustained counterfire.
Awesome
12:00 lmao
Picketts charge: Japanese edition
LEGEEEEEND!!!
gg really good
guns go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Does gambatte give range?
Outnumbered 4(0) to 1? Add Sabaton Song
Can anyone tell me how to transport my units over water in fall of samurai
You need to have at least 1 ship in a "fleet" of any kind and move your army into it at a port. A full 20-stack can fit on a little gunboat. You can only fit a maximum of 20 units in a given fleet; if you have more than 20 units, you have to make more than one army and put it into more than one fleet. Works the same in base Shogun 2.
Not gonna lie, these "I have lots of artillery and the AI has none or just one or two" Battles getting boring. It doesnt really matter if the Player is outnumbered or not. If the player has like 4-6 artillery units and decent gunpowder units he is gonna win anyways. The only decision the Player has to make is where he deploys his units.
Of course he is going to win. These videos are informational. Positioning is everything in this game and these battles show in great detail how to properly do it. I have learned so much on how to correctly use the terrain.
@@ordohereticus5530 Just my opinon but i wouldnt call FotS a great game to showcase or learn about positioning. All you do is sit back with your gunpowder/artillery units and barely move them. Basicly you just wait for the AI to suicide Charge you. Games like Medieval 2 are way better for this.
@@Heat3398 a 3 foot mound can block the sight lines of your entire army and render them useless. Positioning matters.
This is life
Bro these bot comments💀
naganoka 15% reload is no joke
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Hello Timo_Psg
wat if you dunt have a hill? xd
Why is almost every one of these FotS videos against imperials? Do these people just not go with imperial factions?
12th
Austerlitz ass battle.
Honestly the amount of Shogun 2 is getting way overdone at this point. All of the battles are the same. "Use your artillery to kill most of the enemy forces. Use your infantry to protect your artillery." Sure that's the basis of a lot of total war games, but most of them at least have a varied roster.
Definitely fine with historical content but it needs to at least be interesting historical content.
I think you might be right. I'll try to release a bit less FOTS battles.
@@LegendofTotalWar Good call and thanks for the response. It's not your fault for playing the battles you're sent. Just break it up a bit.
WTF, why this dude got loads of levys, mixed upgraded line inf, parrot guns, no cav at all, none of the better infantry than the line inf.
Not much fun potential.
It's cost effective. This army can be recruited really early (hence Parrotts, not Armstrongs), it's ok to just keep it. Levy army probably for public order.
Oi
Still not sure how people can't win battles like this. They're against almost pure trash with a much better army, with artillery vs none. As shown the AI doesn't even try to utilise its ranged units.
Another boring hill strat