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- In this episode we take a look at the Missile Carrier, that graced the fallout universe for 6 wonderful seconds! Join me while we spend over 16 times the time on this vehicle! History, animations, opinions, and questions abound in this weeks video! I hope you enjoy.
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Two answers to your questions. One the soldier was the gas mask is part of an anti riot unit. Maybe he has tear gas or something. Second the purpose of the system might be to deploy a nuke in atmosphere, to create an effective anti bomber zone. The us had a plan to detonate a nuke in event of the bombing raid historically, why not in fallout.
I don't know if this has been answered yet, but with a bunch of research I've found the name of the SCUD launcher. It's the 2P19, based on the chassis of a IS-2 Tank. I was searching image after image until I found a specific link where the person posting the image also had an in depth description earlier provided to them by the museum they visited, the Military Museum and Technology Park at Kecel, Hungary.
the "Bumper" looks to be a counterweight because so much weight is on the back of the vehicle. like how you see this on farm tractors
That's a pretty good idea! Looks like they could be relatively easily added and removed based on how the vehicle is loaded. Smart!
It's these blink and you miss them vehicles and other background details that I find the most fascinating, because they let you write the story yourself to such a large degree. While you make a good case against this being a SAM system, I prefer that explanation as it gives me license to imagine off screen radar and command vehicles. The missile design does scream SRBM at you though, can't deny that. Also, I love the surprise appearance of a Zaku!
I prefer that explanation as well, makes the fallout military universe feel more realistic. Right? I've always loved the Zaku's aesthetic, though my favorite mobile suit is the GINN. Either way, gotta love that one red eye!
Total zaku domination
Ah yes the machine gun mounted on the front of my long range missile carrier, I will definitely use this gun a lot.
Exactly! Although a lot of people so far have disagreed with my gun not useful stance quite to my surprise
@@spydingo I would like to read the arguments, claiming this to be useful.
Giving a weapon system extra weaponry which it will use in less than 1% of all situations is counterproductive. It's downright wasteful regarding resources.
Sure I could give my F-15 a flamethrower, but how often is my airplane in close combat without wind resistance?
Sorry but this gun on the carrier should be replaced with infantry....oh wait there was infantry in the video, I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
Ironically machine guns would be more useful than the 25mm cannon directly mounted to the hull, especially since they already had a hatch on top of the cabin.
It's Warhammer logic, everything needs a heavy bolter strapped to the front in case it ever runs into a pesky ork or two
@@martinsonneborn6820 It's actually not uncommon to see smaller defensive weapons mounted on SPGs/Missile Carriers, but these are usually just a roof mounted MG versus a 20mm cannon.
The only reason why I could see it being a 20mm in the Fallout Universe would be to *maybe* counter Chinese robot attacks?
I always wondered why we didn't see at least a couple of them in Boston, like they totally could've put the models in game
I completely agree! Its baffling to me that they didn't. Only reasons I can think for that is the model wasn't owned by them or they didn't want to take the time to create a weathered texture set for it.
i like to immagine that the gasmask guy is wearing one as a punishment after being scolded by the drill instructor
or he's a canadian local who volunteered across the border and is avoiding the steely gaze of the angry onlookers
@@falloutvermontWho can recognize a Canadian from an american Just by booking at them
Nevermind i Just thought about locals
A few notes:
The hull mounted gun is unusual but a self defense weapon on the chassis is not unheard of.
The vehicle COULD be part of a SAM system with the targeting and firing radar being on separate vehicles that network together as a complete system. The missile could also just be really, really shit at being a SAM. It's also possible that the launcher can be used against multiple target types with the payload in the intro being a payload intended for ground targets.
Given it's deployment in rural Canada and up in Alaska, the tracked system would allow it to operate relatively well in areas that lack significant/robust infrastructure.
10:22 If I were to go by video game tropes, he is most likely an engineer as he is wearing less armor, gas mask, and a less advanced rifle.
lol you right! That's some solid FPS logic right there
I imagine the 20mm gun is probably right beside or connected to the gear shift so that you can shoot every time you change gears lol!
8:00 I feel like if the gun is a automatic 20 it could prove useful for the hectic nature described in operation anchorage, where lines are smashing into each other its is likely common that rear echelon troops will face front line combatants, the cannon is more likely to protect the vehicle incase for some reason it runs into infantry, and not to take a bridgehead. Its the same thing as artillery men keeping carbines near them in the rare chance they run into enemy forces and need to defend themselves.
Man, Bethesda should hire you as a background lore writer and vehicle designer lol
I wish! Then I could get out of Retail! In all seriousness though, that would be one heck of a niche position. I'd love it though :)
Ah yes, the vehicle that doesn't actually exist, and the soldier with the gasmask/helmet combo we can't actually have.
Oh yeah, I hadn't even thought about that combo being a nonexistent thing.
3:15 - 2K4, Philin (eng Owl) FROG-1, филин. Tracked launcher for unguided nuclear ballistic munitions, based on isu-152 chassis
Thank you! For the life of me I couldn't track this down.
It's built on an ISU!? I never even noticed that- it totally is!
It's also known as a 2P19 TEL
Isn’t it an IS-3 chassis?
A significantly more similar vehicle to this than some of the IRL examples you referenced is the M474 TEL which was built from the M113 APC Chassis, and carried a singular Pershing SLBM
Alaska doesn't have a lot of roads, tracks would be necessary.
Not to mention snow.
That's true. And I suppose the few roads that do lead from Canada to Anchorage would be obvious targets for the Chinese. I'm still not totally convinced the vehicle would need to get particularly close to be effective though.
Could be an anti-ship weapon similar to the Neptune
That would be cool. Apparently anti-submarine missiles exist, so it could be used for Yangtze hunting!
Based on where the tanks are located, I'm fairly certain they're for binary rocket fuel/oxidizers for the missiles. Some fuels for rockets can be extremely efficient but also extremely corrisive when mixed. By keeping them separate until you're ready to fire, you can cheap out on the fuel tanks for your already throw away missiles. It also explains the small size of the tanks, you want to make it so that you only need a short time of pumping to firing. This both minimizes the time the corrosion can happen and how long you take from mission go to final launch. In this scenario I'm assuming the hydraulics are there for basic errection to "firing position" versus flat for speed and ease of transport. The slow walking level speed of the vehicle in obstensibly the backlines of the Chinese theater while seemingly primed to fire could be explained by this (though the infantry escort could equally explain it) or possibly some combination. If you have to move at walking speed, might as well be ready to go while you're at it.
Great video, I love the look of this vehicle because it really does look like a real, workable vehicle. Your single launcher version reminds me of the US moving from the M270 MLRS, to the HIMARS as well, so it's honestly not too far from reality to have a single launcher variant. Also, those cylinders are probably either hydraulic or compressed air storage. Pnuematic tools are VERY useful in the field, and homeslice is wearing the gas mask cause he's allergic to the maple syrup ubiquitous to newly annexed Canada 😂
Regarding role? I think these missiles probably fill the same role as a Pershing missile
Btw, I think that tracked Scud-A TEL vehicle is a 9P19 TEL.
Right? It's realistic enough you can suspend your disbelief quite easily. lol I didn't realize maple syrup had become potent enough to be deployed as an aerosol! wow, I just got curious and googled if sprayable maple syrup was a thing, and boy howdy it is! I learned something today!
I agree, SRBM is likely the role. The Pershing is a great callout!
I think you are right! Thank you!
"random equipment latched to the front". Those are spare pieces of track, very common in armored vehicles because you have to carry spares and they provide extra protection.
Also those external tanks could very well be for fuel, I feel like they took inspiration from T-34 and other soviet tanks.....I don't think they were actually connected to the internal tank and instead are used for field refuelings and at least the bigger ones would be emptied/removed before entering combat if I remember correctly.
I think it might be an anti air system but tipped with nuclear missiles to prevent/destroy large bomber formations. The gun could be a hold over from WW2/Korea, when anti air systems like the quad .50s had to engage ground targets in defensive engagements. I know the nuclear anti air missile was at least considered in the early 1950s. Just a thought
The bumper Is highly likely a heavy counterweight system. There are forklift and other lifting systems have had removable counterweights to help the vehicle center of gravity from going too far forward and cause a roll over. For this example the vehicle would require heavy forward weight to counter the weight of the missiles themselves from causing the rear of the vehicle to drag on the ground or collapse the rear suspension system fully which would cause damage or blow them out entirely. that also would explain the design of them so they could easily lifted by either a heavy hydraulic robot arm or forklift. but hey I been wrong before
This much content from 6 seconds of screen time is the kind of pure quality I look for in my lore videos. I would say about the missile carrier that it could easily preform all 3 roles you described, depending on the missiles it is loaded with. For the SAM missiles we know that some similarly ‘smart’ rockets do exist in that kind of profile, with the similarly simple/retro REPCONN rocket design being able to chart and adjust a course without visible thrusters, and for the ballistic missile context I agree it could be a pocket ICBM, alternatively it could be a SRBM (Short Range Ballistic Missile). I think it’s very likely the vehicle was designed for Tactical Artillery, as you say is most likely, and ended up being the platform for new experimental SAM & Ballistic Missiles. This also leads to the question of why they’re seen going down a suburban street in the intro - and then why one of the soldiers is wearing a gas mask, and I’d say the answer is likely that they could be either preparing for nuclear war, which means they’re positioning to attack and/or defend depending on their missiles, possibly they reposition in order to avoid being bombed by the enemy, or they’re positioning for unrest on the home front, which would mean the missiles are probably tactical artillery, non-nuclear, possibly even adapted to distribute riot control gas. It’s also possible they’re pre-positioning for a land invasion of the US mainland by the enemy (or I suppose this shot could even be in like Hawaii or the Philippines), or they’re SAM or Nuclear for the purposes of more major unrest on the home front like a Brotherhood of Steel -style mass mutiny or major secessionist threat such as in Fallout 76. As for the Gas Mask Soldier:
-If the missile carrier is launching its payload anytime soon, he might not want to inhale the exhaust of the missile, and has just gotten a head start on putting his gas mask on (perhaps his job when they’re launching the missiles means he doesn’t have much time to put the gas mask on while they’re getting it ready)
-If they’re going to put down something like a riot he might be expecting something like tear gas or smoke to fill the air as soon as the wind shifts.
-If there’s major civil unrest where he is, he may be afraid of some sort of ambush with gas or fire weaponry, this could even happen in a seemingly peaceful area.
-If he’s a local he might want to hide his face while he’s with the military after all the massacres that have been reported.
-He could have reason to expect that the Great Ka-Boom is coming soon, or simply be paranoid.
-He may be trying to (or being ordered to) get used to wearing it in case he has to live the second half of his life in an irradiated wasteland. Or even to prepare for just a few hours of wearing it in battle.
-He could, I suppose, have a scar or something? Fallout does have a very 1950s culture so I could actually imagine hiding your face if, say, the military won’t let you grow facial hair over it.
-He could be not up to standard with how he looks (dishelved, unshaven, wounded, etc) and be hiding that from the officer in command or from the populous (maybe he has too much facial hair to wear a gas mask properly so they’re making him wear one uncomfortably to teach him a point).
-Anyways I have other things to be doing.
Hey man a small detail you missed that actually makes the M270 closer to the Minuteman then you thought. If the M270 Is loaded with ATACMS, it actually only has 2 Long Range Missiles - the ATACMS boxes are just designed so they visually look the same as GMLRS boxes which hold 6 missiles each.
That's awesome! Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
The reason why it doesn't look like its based off the tank would (game world wise) be because you don't put heavy tank armour on a light "behind the frontline" vehicle like a mobile missile launcher. Most modular vehicle systems are typically based on like vehicles like APCs, and can be up or de-armoured to suit the needs of the user (think M113 or CV90, lots of variants, not much armour for most). The reason why that's important is because of fuel consumption between the vehicles. Most of the fuel will be going to the heavily armoured frontline service vehicles like IFVs and MBTs, and the reason they need so much fuel is because of that armour, which makes them heavy and thus fuel hungry. So its better that vehicles that stay behind the lines (ambulances, mobile artillery, and this here missile launcher) be as unarmoured and unrelated to a tank as possible. The only real variants of tanks tend to be armoured recovery vehicles, which actually do need armour, as they often go into the field to recover the damaged vehicles.
External fuel tanks actually show up on a lot of tanks, and they're not really dangerous for the vehicle or its crew. If they do get hit while full, there's not enough air inside for them to ignite, and they're usually placed where a leak wouldn't get into the engine compartment. The soviet tanks with them in WWII could actually jettison them if they ran empty or before going into combat if they needed to.
Plus, as you said, this isn't a front-line vehicle. It's hanging out tens of miles away from any action, ready to shoot and scoot.
Given nuclear engines though, I'm betting it's coolant or maybe drinking water for the crew.
Surprised no mention/comparison of the "SSM Launcher" from the original Command and Conquer (1995)'s Covert Operations expansion. Was very similar to this, an M270 exchanging its MLRS mount for two MGR-1 "Honest John" missiles
1:18 I caught that window transforming into a slit
although I guess it doesn’t make sense to have armoured and slated windows in the front just to have a giant unprotected window on the side
(edit): also something you may have missed it kinda looks like the cab can be tilted like some semi trucks as you can see what looks like hydraulics right behind the door along with a seam between the cab and the engine compartment
3:15 this is a 8k11 aka object 803. Its could be equipped with different missiles from Elbrus (scud-b) to crazy looking bunker busters(object 804)
And it took me 10 seconds after googling "missile on an IS tank chassis"
I think it's a 1P19 TEL. Found that way faster and it may be a further development of that
3:36 R-11 Zemlya (NATO-designation:SS-1A or Scud-A) missile and it's transport erector launcher vehicle. The tracked chassis based on the IS-3 heavy tank.
The vehicle full name is 2P19
A few things I’d like to mention, when it comes down to it being a strategic missile launcher it could possibly be using a IRBM or a SRBM.
As for it being AA, it could have separate dedicated radar vehicles like some irl AA systems.
The frontal gun does actually make a tad bit of sense given that stealth suits exist. That Chinese operatives would purposely aim for surprise attacks on both logistics and artillery targets to cause chaos. Then disappear without a trace.
it could still be a SAM.
most heavy SAMs have the radar on a separate vehicle as it's a fairly massive thing by itself
the limited flight surfaces on the missiles themselves can be argued against as the intended target is mostly likely slow, unmaneuverable bombers. the missile itself is also likely nuclear tipped so doesn't have to be as close to get a proximity kill.
Dingo, As a armored vehicle enthusiast and formerly enlisted soldier... I can say that you are likely on the money with those rear tanks on the outside being Fuel/Coolant tanks... While they aren't likely the primary tanks, but rather additional bolt ons to increase the vehicles effective range. It's a feature not typical of most American designs but was used on a great number of Warsaw Pact vehicles.
As for the forward mounted cannon, it wouldn't be far fetched for it to mounted under the impression as a defensive armament, though not in a fantastic placement, many artillery carriers have been equipped with a weapon for defending the vehicle against infantry and such.
I will say, the bumper is an odd piece but perhaps it is some form of deployable support for being able to fire the missiles (likely in conjunction with a hydraulic suspension) and the bit that sticks out is to bite into the ground so the backwash from the missile doesn't push the launcher around.
My man just reinvented the M270/HIMARS pairing. Given that they can both launch single-large-missile type weapons in the ATACMS, and the tracked variant carries two pods (and therefore missiles) while the wheeled version carries one, the similarities are clear.
My guess as for the thing on the front of the vehicle is that it might be a mounting place for a dozer blade? It doesn't make a ton of sense on this type of vehicle but maybe it would allow it to get into a hull down position that would protect it or at least its tracks from the nuclear blast of its missiles. Also, my money is on mr gas mask pissing off his NCO, and as a punishment, he has to wear his mask for the ruck march
I think the artist took a lot of inspiration from the chassis of the MLRS, the U.S. Honest John launcher sporting a single "tactical nuke" and Soviet twin SAM mobile launcher
AMAZING VIDEO , even better when it comes from a few seconds clip
I think this would be longrange mobile artillary. Probably the the warhead splits into several before impact at double/tripple howitzer range. So basically rocket assisted longrange bunker buster for ground targets.
Cluster munitions, didn't think of that. That would certainly make the system much more deadly!
I tend to agree with the latter two scenarios. Either a mid-range S2S missile carrier, or an advanced ICBM carrier. With the idea of a fusion-powered missile being feasible in our world recently, and a company named Mass Fusion in Fallouts near future, that certainly makes a compelling argument
The gas mask guy was just walking behind someone who had a round too many near the bean cannon as we call it in hungary.
lol. That is by far the much more practical solution than speeding up to walk upwind of him!
@@spydingo I mean, that's a solution too...but for serious this time maybe the dude was awaiting tear gas or some civil piss grenades etc. some riot police in the latest civil unrests in my country (2006) brought private, non-issued gas masks to not get sprayed (not to mention private biker gear and other padded outfits as the bulletproof vests were stuffed with only one plate or no plates in fact...)
One last comment, in the anti air role it could be an unguided nuclear rocket like the genie. In this role, it would not need to be overly maneuverable or rely on integrated radar as it would likely just be fired in the general direction of a formation of chinese bombers
That's a really good callout. I'd forgotten nuclear anti-air was a thing. Also with the main areas of combat being in Alaska which would be sparsely populated, and overseas I can certainly see the Fallout US not caring in the slightest about the potential fallout such a weapon could cause.
The vehicle looks vaguely like the R11 Zemlya's TEL, though only vaguely. The TEL in qustion was based on the chassis of the ISU series of direct fire self propelled guns. (edit) The vehicle you do not know the name of is the R11's launcher.
That single rocket launcer vehicle, im not sure of the name either,but I saw it at a Polish Museum in Warsaw the other week. Ironically i didnt take a look at the little info pane but did take a photo of the vehicle. Pretty neat though
My first thought for the bumper is something like a stabilizer, but those are usually mounted on the rear, not the front.
I think the pronounced front bumper is likely just a form of weight displacement? When the missiles are raised, the weight could very likely put enough force on the back of the vehicle to considerably tip the whole thing backwards
You sometimes see this on trucks kitted for heavy towing
Considering the Military's willingness to develop portable handheld Nukes, Tactical battlefield Nukes seem appropriate to me.
Even Putin was said to be consider using them in our universe, and as nukes are chucked around regularly in Fallout, smaller warheads to destroy armoured columns seems like something they'd do.
I agree with your 'outside asset' theory as to why it doesn't appear outside of the 6 seconds of footage
MGR-1 "Honest John" + БРДМ
Nuff said
All of the gas mask soldier's gear is different (and more old-fashioned looking) from the other 2 soldiers, which might imply that he's from a different unit with lower issuing priority.
He could be some kind of MP or an EOD specialist (who wold *not* have special protective suits in the 50's/60's). The gas mask would be a good idea if either side was using chemical weapons, the lack of gloves or other chemical gear isn't great but riot police use CS without gloves all the time, and fallout's canada was in the middle of an insurgency and civil unrest.
Regarding missile range, small TBM's like ATACMs and PrSM can easily reach 300km+, so they certainly wouldn't be worthless
Awesome video dude, I gotta say though, the reason we might not see air defense weapons in fallout is the fact that laser technology is so amazing.
It's already predicted that laser weapons in the real world will just beat drones, missiles and even artillery shells. In fact a lot are already in use with the us army.
The laser turrets in fallout and robots equipped with laser weapons are more reliable and cheaper then the missiles and drones being launched at them. This would actually explain why the bombs were dropped by planes which as we see with the Chinese bombers, have very shiny materials (maybe laser resistant?).
The bombs they drop might be big and round in order to make them more resistant to lasers while also too heavy to be put in a intercontinental ballistic missile, which might get shot down by lasers anyway, like Mr houses defenses did.
This might explain why the missiles in fallout 76, the missiles in the lonesome road and the ones in fallout 4s Yangtze weren't all used as the aerial Bombing is more reliable anyway and they were saved for later strikes where laser defenses might be down.
Thanks!
That's a really interesting callout, I could certainly see an assaultron decimating bomber formations in visual range with it's charged eye beam for sure. Then assuming they can interface with some sort of early detection equipment they could likely do so beyond visual range.
Great callout on Mr House's Lucky 38 defenses, I completely forgot his defenses were laser based in nature. Its decided, I'm scheduling a trip to the top of the lucky 38 to see if any lasers are visually present as my curiosity commands me to!
This could be! I think though that the US at least, had a healthy surplus of nukes. If I'm remembering correctly there is a warehouse full of em in the capital wasteland, and the Sentinel sight is similarly stocked to the brim.
@@spydingo haha let me know if you find a comotose Howard Hughes in there! And Im beginning to wonder if a lot of the surplus is there because newer bombs were airdropped and the older missiles Were kept around just in case. However the capital site does confuse the hell out of me, there are box tail fin nukes stacked to the roof, yet missle silos too? Why wouldn't the box tail nukes be near a airfield if it is indeed a launch site?
That Scud carrier appears to be a 2P19 TEL, its mentioned on the page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-17_Elbrus a picture is not provided but one is present at the "Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineer and Signal Corps, Saint Petersburg"
Thank you! I couldn't find this for the life of me.
Another great vid!
The guy with the gasmask, fucked up and his NCO told him 'you will the wearing your gasmask on the 25k march tomorrow.'
The forward component of the chassis looks like a weighted deployable stabilizer that lays forward for digging in the TEL for launch, considering the payload size compared to the low mass of the chassis. That's my take.
I can see the 20mm gun on the front being an anti infantry gun incase the position that it was at became over run with enemy infantry and friendly infantry were being pushed back quicker than they could mount a defense and as it would be retreating the gun could fire back at enemy infantry and take a few out or kill enough to get distance from the enemy and possibly buy time for friendly forces to retreat and regroup and prevent getting captured. That was the use that I thought the gun could be used for and as to why they put the gun on it.
It took me a while but I think the Soviet skud launcher is a 9u218 Zemyla
I was wondering about that soldier walking along with the gasmask. Makes me wonder if he might have been assigned to the vehicle itself as a crewmember. Goodness knows being around the fuel they use for those things is... deleterious to one's health.
Gas mask might be a punishment for a solider - for not keeping his gun clean or something, because trust me, even walking a 1 mile in this will make sure you will not repeat that mistake.
It’s like the OG SAM rocket launch sites from the 40’s but on a vehicle
Amazing content, bro!
Much appreciated!
The rocket launching systems name is 2P19
Oh my gosh, thank you!
Very good! The front of the vehicle is a bit odd. My mind landed the front bits as some kind of ERA or like some kind of anti obstacle dozer esc blade... but who knows.
I hadn't thought of a dozer blade, I like that.
Yeah, that's almost a 1-to-1 replica of an MLRS, down to the crew compartment, track and roller configuration, windshield, etc. Close enough to say that it's pretty much just a variant of an MLRS.
As for the armor sticking out of the front, it COULD be a plow or stabilizer, for when it's deploying it's missiles. Possibly a combination of slat armor AND explosive reactive armor, although I'd question why it's exclusively placed on the front.
Honestly I feel like it’s role would be multi purpose but it specializes for each role based on its missiles. One day it’s anti air, the next a coastal defense battery, a mobile artillery piece the next, and so on. They’re already phasing in power armor over armored vehicles so maybe they’re also giving more jobs to the remaining armored vehicles.
That's certainly possible! The launchers capabilities could, in fact, only be limited by the types of munitions it can successfully interface with. I will say though, that interfacing with a wide variety of munitions is a lot loftier goal than one might imagine. At least based on my experience working as a test engineer on the F22s armament deployment mechanisms.
@@spydingo fair enough, switching them out on the move alone would be a logistical challenge
Love the video and glade some knows about the lost gem. I would love to see a video about Army Jeep or Truck
Thanks! Its my goal to cover them all eventually, and those vehicles being of military make makes them quite attractive to cover.
Keep up the amazing work Spydingo!
Thanks, I'll try!
That Soviet scud launcher is R-11M with 8U218 TEL aka SS1 SCUD.
I don’t know if someone already said this, but I think it this vehicle looks a bit similar to the M548 tractor with Hawk surface-to-air missiles.
I’m wondering if the “bumper” is actually a deployable “foot” that acts as a frontal stabiliser/suport arm that’s deployed when the carrier is made ready to fire?
The box behind the cab to me seems like an armoured housing for the engine itself given there appears to be an exhaust stack poking out of it on the opposite side to the camera side
"there is, a door!" 😂gotta love when you gotta point out when a model actually comes with a method of entry to its cabin region
in the cons section you question the use of tracks, vs wheels for infrastructure but if the war is taking place in alaska, and possibly rural asia, wouldnt it make sense to bring tracks and a small arms to ward of yauguais or other wild life?🤔
in regards to the gas mask wearing soldier... the most obvious answer was he couldnt be bothered dealing with his hayfeaver that morning and figured it would be easier to look like a dafty than like he had been peper sprayed😂
Right?
You arn't wrong. At the time my thought process was that the Missiles Carrier was too long range of a weapon to need tracks, I didn't really think about the fact it might be equipped with SRBMs or the fact that there are few roads leading into Alaska making such infrastructure easy to target.
Lol allergies, I love it!
Seems like the SA-2 DIBNA used in Vietnam...
The scud launcher built on a T-10 chassis is called the 2P19
Thank you!
Going on the basis that the introduction footage for Fallout 4 that the scene was filmed using 2 real tanks mocked up like this, the closest i have found to what the chassis is at least is possibly a T-72 or M-60 chassis
Not the tank has 6 road wheels, the rear road wheel is pretty close to the Idler wheel and the sprocket has all the weight on it giving the front end of tank slight depression, both the tanks have 6 road wheels and a similar spaced gaps between the wheels, sprockets and idler wheels and both but the T-72 is a little more farfetched since they are expensive to own in general.
As a “cgi” tank honestly the same again looking at the road wheels i came across a cancelled ww2 APC called the M44. And besides body being big the tracks and wheels look very similar so maybe if it is indeed a cgi tank in the trailer it took inspiration from the m44 apc
Would have been cool if a quest involved sourcing fuel and parts to launch these missiles as non nuclear types at something
11:40 Actually 76 has several AI controlled SAM sites.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot those turrets! I wonder what their effective range would be. I kind of doubt it would be high enough to take out strategic bombers from what I remember, but I could be wrong.
I always saw it as similar to the M727 Hawk carriers. Just a lot beefier.
The soviet vehicle you're looking for is a 2P19 tractor-erector-launcher vehicle with a R-11 missile, better known as "scud A"
I hope the Sherman's still be fielded I'd love to see it fire a Tesla Cannon similar to the one seen in the wargame Konflikt '47 or a Dieselpunk type Airship similar to the Usonian RV3 "Revere" from Iron Harvest
The Scud vehicle you saw is the R-11 Zemlya, with the NATO reporting name of SS-1b Scud-A
i always wonder why they where traveling with the missiles raised. even if they were close to their launch site they wouldn't raise them until ordered to, also if you look if they lowered them they would block the side doors which explains the top hatch.
perhaps the missiles are raised because of the side doors getting blocked. I imagine having to climb out the top hatch would be more annoying than using the side doors. Maybe because they're on flat road in the cutscene the crew was comfortable raising the missiles for easy entry/exit even if standard procedure is to keep them lowered
There is some cool concept art of the missile system.
If the missile system was paired with a separate mobile RADAR system it could provide air cover for massive ground troop movements
I'm a little late, but the gasmask guy could be responsible for fueling or loading warheads onto the missile. Those tanks might hold liquid rocket fuel, which is notoriously toxic, like, terrifyingly corrosive and carcinogenic. Would explain the exterior tanks and the hazmat suited soldier.
Also, i agree with some other commenters, that front bumper looks very similar to removable counterweight systems that heavy equipment use, like tractors, skidsteers, and forklifts.
The front cannon is absolutely silly, though, a top mount machinegun would suffice much better. I'm guessing this is medium range rocket artillery, optionally nuclear, meant for cross country travel and high intensity warzones.
The tracked launcher you're looking for is the soviet 2P19.
Inwaited so f ing long 4 someone made a vid of these
I think (assuming this vehicle is for ground to ground and not air to air) the m270 MLRS in ATACMS configuration is fairly similar at least in function
Wow! Look at those *details*
Right? =P
I bet the tanks on the back would be for rocket fuel, or at least a component of the final fuel mix. Rocket fuel can be corrosive (eg Aerozine 50) and you don't want some army grunt decanting that stuff. A separate tank that attaches to the launcher's fuel lines would be safer. It also means the tanks would be empty after the TEL readies the rocket for action; so damage to the tanks from the rocket exhaust wouldn't matter (-ish any fumes would still be nasty).
Don't know if anyone has said this already but I'm pretty sure the unidentified launcher is a Soviet 2P19.
I think the bumper maybe could be explosive reactive armor bricks very oddly shaped ERA but ERA none the less. And for those tanks on the side if they were carrying some liquid fuel like diesel than it isn’t as big of a problem as one might assume, if they were shot the fuel would just leak out on to the ground. But since we don’t know what is in those tanks, it could either be a major flaw or an impromptu piece of armor.
It could be possible that It’s like the s-400 missile system with multiple parts to the missile system
I actually assumed this thing is an Anti-Ballistic Missile system, basically an Anti Missile Missile.
In this role It'd be engaging fast-moving but non-maneuvering targets, meaning speed is extremely important to get to the target rather than trying to hit a plane actively trying to defend itself. given its size I'd assume it to be specifically deployed as a defence against Nuclear ICBM attack meaning long-range, high altitude [near or even in space] intercepts, this would also explain the lack of onboard radar system as it'd be dependant on massive over the horizon radar systems that simply won't fit on a truck... at least not with Fallout Computing levels.
I'd also like to note Soviet and Russian AA systems such as 2K11 Krug and 2K12 Kub don't have on-board radar and instead rely on other vehicles dedicated to carrying an air search radar, similar to things like US Patriot or Russian/Soviet S-300 systems... so it could still be a SAM.
Anyway, great video as always! love ya stuff.
These could be anti air missilee, however, thet would gave taken from the real world air to air nuclar weapon, my assumption is they just launch these at incoming and retreating chinese planes, which meane the guns could be for a paratrooper assault or chinese infiltration to prepare for a paratrooper assualt, however ultimately I think its clear it was made with no thought for it's role, and just wanted a missile holding armored vehicle to look cool
That’s scud launcher is the R-11 Zemlya
Its just gigant M270 MLRS with scuds mounted on back
I think it could be a dual purpose missile system, like a NIKE missile systems. I could be equipped with a nuclear warhead to wipe out bomber formations with one missile. It could have it's warhead replaced with a conventional warheads for ground targets or keep the nuke to serve as a tactical nuke. As for the gas mask soldier, he is the real life Rudy Reyes, a recon marine who would go for runs and workouts in full kit and gas mask on. Check out Generation Kill he plays himself in it
Good thing I wated at least a third of the video.
I was about to say it looks like a scud launcher.
Great minds think alike!
anti aircraft nuclear missile they also did exist in real life
MIM-3 Nike Ajax it also looks sort of like it
I feel like a nation that develops power armour doesn't quite need mbts...
Ok so a surface to surface missile sounds likely oh though you could still say it's like a Nike missile with a nuclear warhead to take out multiple bomber's at once and yes they did have them as well as the the air 2 genie.
It almost seems like a vehicle that you just convert for many purposes as it does look like you could fit other armaments and systems on to it, also it looks like it could manage an trip from wherever USA trough Canada to ass freezing Alaska. But it does confuse me how the game has real world vehicles in one game like tactics where they have working humvees and the next game its just corvegas everywhere which gives the feeling of that somwhere the military technology was somewhat the same as real world and then split into what fallout 4 has which is super confusing or the constant changes of basically everything, example the guns not matching for every game or robots applies to how powerarmor is used like which is very inconsistent. Also the lack of varieties of vehicles like in fallout 4 everyone uses the same truck there is probably one construction related vehicle which is a yellow corvega combined with a forklift. But keep up the work the details and depth of these videos keep me on the hook!