The TRUTH about fishing line! You're being LIED to about MONO, FLOURO, BRAID! (BEST FISHING LINE)
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- We've been told by pros and TH-camrs that are sponsored that we need to most expensive line out there -- FALSE!!!
I'm here to tell you that monofilament is the best line to use for ALL fishing situations!
Don't get sucked into the needing to use the most expensive stuff. Expensive doesn't always mean better!
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Me and a buddy went out crappie fishing. He used mono and I used fluorocarbon purposely. I caught 30 crappie and he caught 4. Fishing THE SAME SPOTS with our floats a foot apart ! Explain that for me!
@@tremaineangus6474 There’s a lot of variables that could account for the difference. Maybe the sinking fluorocarbon kept your lure in the strike zone better. I doubt it was the lower visibility that helped since it was crappie.
You should try asso hard skin
Braid doesn’t tangle like Mono does, and is much stronger, there really is no reason to use mono for fresh water fishing when you pair braid with the right rod for what you are going after and I don’t have to replace my braid nearly as often as your mono, I’ve had braid that’s lasted 2-3 years before I notices any issues with the line.
@@imperialwhovian3461 braid does tangle easier than mono wind knots are the worst
I grew up as a kid using just mono. Then I completely stopped fishing for over 30 years. Just recently got back into fishing, and I was both surprised and confused when I discovered so many different types of fishing line. I had never heard of braid or fluorocarbon. I was shocked at the cost of many of these fishing lines. Everyone I knew had their reels spooled with braid. What was even more confusing was when I heard people talking about how I needed to put a "mono backing" if I wanted to spool my reel with braid. I decided to stick with what I grew up using and what I was comfortable with - monofilament. Best decision of my life. Berkely Trilene Big Game is my favorite mono. I spool all of my reels with it as well as use it for my leaders. It's a quality fishing line at a very affordable price.
AMEN!
Is clear or green best in berkley big game
@@Accyboom I really don't know. I have green on one of my reels and clear on the others. I've caught fish with both, but I couldn't tell you for certain if one catches more than the other. You'd have to ask a more experienced fisherman to answer that question for you. But, when in doubt, I'd just go with clear. I mean, clear mono has been around forever.
@@Accyboom I'd like to add that the reason I love the Berkley Big Game line is because I often fish in rocky/reef areas, so my tackle occasionally gets stuck in the rocks, and I have to break it off. And it always surprises me how much force I have to apply in order to break Berkley 12# and 15# mono! I've never measured it, but I know for a FACT that I am applying MUCH more than 12 or 15 pounds of pressure to break these lines. They're damn strong lines for such an affordable price! Also, I've noticed that braid is terrible for fishing around rocks/reef. Braid gets frayed quickly.
@@user-sg8kq7ii3y like you say braid is awful round rocks. Cuts through very easily.
When I started bass fishing, I used nothing but mono, because that's all there was. I caught a ton of fish on it, be it tournaments, or just out fishing. Then like everyone else, I followed along with all the trends, first braid, then fluoro, then fluoro to braid. Oh, and the connecting knots! Fg, gt, etc. etc. The thing is, I don't remember breaking off fish with mono, but I have lost more fish with braid, fluoro, and the combo. I know with absolute certainty that braid is way more sensitive and fluoro only slightly more than mono. But I seriously have broken off way more with braid and fluoro, which leads me to believe that it ends up being about even between the break offs with braid and fluoro and the missed detections of mono, that the extra cost seems moot. I went back to straight mono on everything and had my best and most enjoyable year of fishing with not one break off. Never going back.
Love it!!!!!!!!!!
I agree ! My experience with fluoro has been , as others have mentioned , is that it gets brittle and I have had too many break offs. I too went the braid route for awhile until I went to a swimming pool and did my own line test on a texas rigged worm. When people talk about the sensitivity of braid --- it is true on a VERY tight line. However the reality of a fishing a worm or jig is that most strikes come on the fall as you work it. Braid is actually TOO buoyant and with braid, there is a big slack in the line when your worm/jig is falling. Plus, I noticed that when moving/working your worm or jig , the braid would move it 2-3' versus with mono it would only move 12-18" at a time and there wasn't nearly as much of a loop in the line as with the braid. Another revelation was rod length . Like most people I had fallen into the at least 7' long club. That was before the pool test. A 7' rod moved my bait twice as far and fast as a 5 i/2 foot rod ! Final conclusion : I will now use mono and a short rod fishing worms and jigs and I am catching more fish than when I was using braid and a longer rod. The pool test was a real eye opener !!
Hey Cole!!! That is awesome -- it's always nice to have science behind arguments! Much appreciated brother!
Kinda new to taking fishing seriously. I just switched from floro to braid for worms and I haven't caught anything since. Obviously I'm inexperienced but I was nailing them with floro. I've had the same experience with braid being to "limp". Is there a remedy for this limp line? is adding more weight the way to go? Should I get a lighter line? So many questions
I have a 7 foot medium with 25 series reel with 12 lb braid on it. (Maybe too heavy of a test) right now of course I could just be too early this spring to catch them
In the pool the braid doesn't stretch moved 2-3', mono that 'stretches more' moved just 12-18". That stretched line at that moment kept the 'loop' less or smaller where as the braid had full length at all times and looped more/longer. On the west coast fishing for Steelhead in real clear mountain water rivers, flouro-leaders are used 90% of the time by exp Steelhead fisherman. The fluoro line is almost invisible and seems not to stretch as much as mono so the hook can sink into the jaw of the fish better but not pull out like if they used all braid. Depending on which brand mono you use, you might miss the hook set if it stretched too much. When float fishing Steelhead, they'll use 50-65lb braid and it'll float more. They'll tie a FG/double uni or Alberto knot to a longer leader or use a small barrel swivel to a shorter flouro leader. Top water striper fishing, also braid to mono. Look around for a deal on braid if you want to top shot it fluro or leader. I wouldn't spool the whole reel with fluoro. There's Red-label Seagaur fluoro $13 for 200 yards
Braid is best for top water, in brush/lily pads or spinning reels. Anything else probably just use mono.
To each their own.
I use braid casting and flipping into vegetation; mono for everything else.
Thanks for the videos
Tight lines and Godspeed
Tight lines, brother!
Good point to consider - thanks.
Thank you for that. I get caught up being an equipment snob on line but need to get back to the big game
It happens! That's why those marketing execs make the big bucks!
You are correct, don't need to break the bank to catch some bass, but having certain tools at hand certainly makes different scenarios easier to tackle. I like fluorocarbon because the sensitivity on a slack line. Braid is hard not to have when you are frogging, pitching, and punching around vegetation. To each their own
Exactly! Fishing is like BBQ....some people like Texas...some people like Kansas City!
Tight lines, Colton!
@Colton n I concur with ur assessment that one should be properly prepared for anything that may come swimming along. Therefore I am also a braid and floro Guy. Thou I have had success with Berkeley big game with a Seaguar leader out on the Gulf. And use braid and floro inshore, lakes and rivers.
@@robertneal6878 what is the seaguar leader for?
@Big Daddy Leroy I should have mentioned that the leader was Seaguar fluoro (not floro). 50lb test if I recall. The purpose in my opinion, is that fluorocarbon sinks faster, which is a minor factor. But its low refractive index in water is superior to mono. As the saying goes, the fish can see it (mono) coming). I would not advise spooling up with it. As a leader I had a Grouper(?) on that took me down into rough cover below, probably rocks, and after a 15 minute battle, it threw my hook. The fluoro took a beating. It was scuffed up pretty badly, but persevered. I was impressed with the results I have since using it.
Thank you for your honesty!
Thank YOU for stopping by, Roger!
I caught a lot of fish before there was ever floor or braided line. I occasionally end up in situations where I want the strength of braids but it is a small percentage of my fishing. I got away from the braids on my bass fishing because I set the hook on everything like it's a 10 lb bass on a rubber worm and was pulling the hooks more often than with mono. I love the mono stretch when you hit them hard! Thanks for the video
Absolutely! Couldn't agree more!
If you want your knots to slip and your bank account to shrink, buy flouro. Good braid and good mono are all that is needed. Thank you for teaching youngsters the truth - pros are making money selling products that they never used when they actually had to buy their own gear. Technique is learned via experience, not credit cards.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been saying it since the first tournament, I fished with a Zebco reel and rod to piece with 12 pound Zebco monofilament, yes, the diameter of braid and having 20 pounds on a freshwater lake, it works great. I might buy 500 yards of floral line every couple years but every year I do buy that 1175 yards of big game mono and that’s all I buy and when I get done with it I use it as backing if you do need to use a couple different rods and you take care of them $120 combo from bass pro I’ve had for five years and I’ve caught monsters on it and a monster to me are over 8 pounds and if it’s a catfish it better be over 15 to be a monster but I’m glad I came across this video because I don’t throw a drop shot and I was just looking at things and brother you’re absolutely correct. These people will sell you a dream if they can get at least 5% of people in each state to buy that product of the fishing communities. that’s enough the sponsors are happy and all these people out here that I want to do things and it’s honestly true a lot of things catches the eye of the fisherman not the fish😮
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!! PREACH BROTHER!!
Always trying to catch the fisherman not the fish!
If you fish in the North 15 lb catfish is a trophy
5 lb bass is a lotto probability
I'm subscribe to the channel because the man seems honest!
Preciate that!!!!!
Thank you, Mikael!
Thank you man, your video gives me confidence to use What works for me, and not worry about having the latest and greatest.
Thank, Mike! Happy to hear it!
I agree. The newest monofilament brands are extremely good. They do not get the recognition they deserve. Plus, the vast majority of anglers just don't have that kind of cash to spend.
Amen, Patrick! 👏
When you lose one, just one little fish due to inferior line, in the middle of a tournament, you will NEVER go back. Been almost 18 yrs since I've used the crappy mono. Im not fishing to lose fish.
@@alexfamie5255 I am with you the flourocarbon gives you way more confidence because it is more sensitive and clearer and that is what I use for my bass tournaments because I am not going to lose a winning fish because of crappy mono but on the other hand if you are just fun fishing on a budget then mono is a good route to go
@@bassinwithdylan true. I dig your style, man.
i use mono for short range fishing when i need shock absorbing qualities for smash takes but i need braid/fluro for its non stretch qualities when fishing at distance, berkley keeps me happy on both mono and fluro fronts, i view line as a tool as much as anything
Hey Trout! Thanks for stopping by and thanks for sharing!
Alot of my fishing is done with mono and still have great results! I do use braid to fluorocarbon leader on my spinning setups though, just like the feeling of it and got used to it... you are correct and I agree with you and it's like it's been pounded in our brain's that mono isn't the answer these days and it's simply not true! Thanks for the video My friend!
Absolutely, Lanny!! Thanks for stopping by!
I totally agree with you on this. I tried fluorocarbon and hated it. It is brittle and I lost fish with it. I do use braid to mono for my spinning reels though to eliminate the dreaded line twist and memory associated with straight mono.
100% agree! Thanks for stopping by the channel, David! 🎣
Yeah i find fluorocarbon a waste of money, i bought a spool it cost 25 $ and the line frays so easy and snaps...lost a few of my favorite lures from it, i stick with braid and mono
if you want to avoid line twist with mono try this. after i spool the line i get out in the yard, open the bail then pull line out in a straight line across the yard (preferably like 75 yds) then real it back in through your fingers. (no bait tied on) if you do that two or three times it will eliminate most line twist problems.
@@bigdaddyleroy1915If you are in a boat you can do that while running and let the whole reel out.
@@H43339 yep that is right, ▶️ I've done it that way before.
Been using big game for years, no problems here!!! Thanks for posting the video!!
Thank YOU for taking the time to stop by! We appreciate it!
Big Game ALWAYS!
Yes! I've been saying that for tears and i have been fishing for 50 years. I've tried braid and fluorocarbon but I keep coming back to Monofilament for everything and I always use the lightest line that I think I can get away with. Right On!!!
Amen!!
Thanks for the honesty. One of the few on TH-cam fishing topics. Guys, think about all the hardware attached to lures; clips, swivels hooks, blades, etc. Are fish supposed to care most about line? Don't get sucked in. Fluoro doesn't cast better, stretch that much less, it's just the sell! Why use mono vs. braid? Because you might have to break off from a snag. If using braid-to-bait, pack a 6" length of 3/4" dowel rod.
PREACH CHARLIE PREACH!!!!!!
You literally save me a lot of money, thanks my friend ✌️👍
Never used the Pline mono. I hate their flouro marketing so makes it hard to give them a try.
I agree with I fish on Lake Erie alot . At times it's gin clear and mono still works perfect and can afford to change it out anytime Great Video!!!
Thanks, Robert!
Just happened upon your channel. Excellent observations young man! I'm almost 61 years old and have fished going on 55 years. The only reel I use braid on are my two frog rods....PERIOD! Berkley Big Game monofilament has served me well for many years. The advancements in rod technology over the years has also improved monofilament line cababilites as well. I live in South Louisiana and have bass fished in some mean water! I use a lot of 12# 15# and 20# Big Game! That stuff is tough as woodpecker lips!! GREAT VIDEO!!
Thank you, sir!! Much appreciated and thanks for stopping by!
Awesome info! Ive been fishing freshwater/saltwater for 40+ years. Started with mono, I like braid when hauling in big saltwater fish. Fluoro kind of stumped me. I was told it was needed, as a leader with braid, but have used mono in the past with no issues. I can catch fish with a hand line if needed :). Another thing that most of "the professionals" probably wont agree with, I love break down fishing rods. I was a kid, and have kids, how many times has a fishing rod been broken in a car/truck door? 7-9 foot fishing rods, mixed with kids/dogs/ Dads/Moms don't mix well. Break down rods lessen this chance, and I have never had an issue having "less sensitivity" on a break down rod. Keep up the good work! Haven't watched any of your fishing videos yet...but I like your style!
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I have tried all three. Here is my experiece with them. 1) Flouro breaks easily when you cast hard. When you try to cast with power for distance, you hear that loud snap and the lure flies into the sea. I lost some expensive lures because of Flouro, so I stop using them. 2) Braid is strong and more sensitive than mono but it's also a pain in the ass when knots happen or a backlash. Braid does damage line guides and the roller on the reel, it's really abrasive and it will cut your hand if you try to pull on the line to get the fish into the boat or over the pier. For these reasons, I gave up on braid. Also other fishermen don't like it when you use braid next to them, when lines gets cross, braid can cut other people lines especially if they use mono, again it's abrasive. 3) Mono is the best fishing line in my honest opinion. It's smooth and strong. 15 lb mono is my favorite, plenty strong and still very easily castable. When I handle mono, I don't worry about cutting my hand, I love the feel of mono as it glides on my fingers. I know for sure mono isn't damaging my line guides. And the best part is mono is cheap so you can replace them every season so you always have new fresh lines.
Yup! Seen a guy get his 3 surf rods tangled with braid. Looked like an expensive mess.
AMEN!!! I agree with you 100%. I got tired of buying and using the different types of line plus, I hate floro line. Went back to straight mono on everything like we used to do in the 70's and 80's.
Love to see it, Steve!!
Yup, I pretty much use the same. Trilene BG, Yozuri and braid(Diawa Jbraid 8 or Sunline). I like suffix braid on my spinning setups because I see their high vis yellow better than anything else...
Awesome, CJ! That's what we like to hear!
Reaction Tackle braid is great and comes in 20 different colors and it's CHEAP but has never failed us. Saltwater or freshwater. We get 1500 yard for $40 from WalMart...can't beat it!
I agree. On my pan fishing gear I have 4lb mono only. For my bass rigs I have 8-10 Power Pro braid with 5-6ft mono leader that is 8-10lb. The only reason I don’t have straight mono for bass gear is for casting. Also, I love mono due to its cheapness and for its abrasion resistance. I have lots of rocks and wood structure and when I use floro I break off all the time but with mono, I can stretch and pull my lures out of the snagged rock or wood 7/10 times.
Yes sir!!
I wish Silver Thread was still being made. That was by far the best line I ever used.
Awesome for trolling. Real trolling not the internet version
They always seem to discontinue what we like....*cough cough* Berkley Big Game 17#!
I used to use Silver Thread quite a bit, but only on my baitcasters. I've always preferred Trilene XL on my spinning reels. I also used to use Berkley Trilene Select Spinning and Select Casting line.
I love this. I've been using mono since i begin fishing before seeing others using braid with leader, or fluoro. This video makes me feel my decision is right to just stick with mono. Its very durable and it's cheap.
Yes sir!
Good points.
Another thing to consider is how much more often you can re-spool with fresh mono for still a lot less money.
I know several dudes who will leave their fluorocarbon on way too long . . . then it kinks and gets weaker faster than mono.
A-M-E-N!!!!!!!!!!
Completely 1000% agree... mono works just as good if not BETTER.. especially for the weekend working man.. funny how ALL pro's were sponsored by Stren or Berkley mono back 30 yrs ago and tore them up. Muskie anglers were using 25 to 30 mono and doing just fine.... they say that stuff to SELL PRODUCT.. thank you for the video!
We are a channel for the people! Not all of us have that kind of money to WASTE!
Thank YOU for stopping by -- we appreciate it!
Couldn't agree with you more -- you are one of us!
100 % braid for me with occasional leader in super clear water. I love the sensitivity for feeling the bite. You don't have that with flouro or mono.
Thanks for sharing!
Mono for me. Too many lost jigs from my braid being nicked up on the rocks.
@@matthoffman2077 You are right my mono never gets nicked on rocks.
Agreed after fishing with both braided and mono i can confidently say braided is better but the only cons about braid is the price, and if u get 1 little snip in braided line than the braided line is at risk at snapping but it can still fish, and I did stress and pound test, braided 100% wins and it never failed me so far, it’s also very easy to tie knots and doesn’t have spool memory on the line so it can adapt to my reel unlike mono it’s just a mess, as I’m typing this I’m putting mono on one of my reels until this vid pop up L0L 😹
All I use is mono and i've never had any problem catching MANY fish. Thanks for confirming my thought on that!!!!
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Thank YOU, Virgil!!
Great advice!! Thanks for sharing..🇧🇿🇧🇿🇧🇿
Thanks, Dorian!
I use fireline primarily because of its small diameter for the strength and no memory. Casts farther than any mono because mono stays coiled off the spool. Fireline is easier to tie knots also and palomar doesn't slip or break. For ice fishing I like red mono because I can see it against the snow/ice, and a fluoro leader about 2 ft long.
Nothing wrong with braid -- just don't need to spend all the $$$$ on the expensive stuff!
Finally someone who isn't sponsored or telling their viewers that you need to spend $5k on a boat and combo to catch fish. I fucking hate how sponsorships have ruined anything they touch. For God's sake, I might just make my own TH-cam channel for the everyday fisherman.
A-FREAKING-MEN!
I taught myself to have zero drag on the reel (baitcaster or spinning) while fishing for largemouth.. I didn’t worry about the line(monofilament) scraping against roots rocks anything that is a part of the fish den.. Thank you for your time on this matter.. Tight Lines
Amen! Thank YOU!
I use Ande Ghost Mono for all of my leaders. I checked the visibility along with a premium Fluoro and they are nearly identical.
I use braid for most of my surf fishing. The added capacity is helpful "IF" I hook a big Tarpon in the surf. There are plenty of them here and some are 100lbs or more.
I favor STREN original Fluorescent UV, I've used that 17lb line for nearly 50 years and it has always performed well surfcasting in the North East.
Thanks. Good channel.
Thanks, J! We use Reaction Tackle braid in the surf on our Daiwa BGs!
I agree with most of what you said, however there is one major difference between the two that I capitalize on. Fluorocarbon does sink on its own. If you're using topwater lures, this can impact the action of the lure. So for topwater, I fish mono. For sinking lures, I use fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon also seems to be less visible underwater than mono. The water I generally fish is extremely clear for my neck of the woods, you can see a good 5 or 6 feet to the bottom, and there is a fair amount of fishing pressure. Fluorocarbon gives a slight edge in that regard. That said, if I could only buy one type of line, I'd choose mono. I used it exclusively for years, and it'll do the job!
Always gets the job done!!
If you're fishing for bass, I've never noticed that they care at all about line. Trout maybe. Salmon maybe.
I've definitely cought bass on white dental floss and a hobo pole before. They don't care about line
Agreed! I switched from mono to floro last season. I've never had more issues with my line. Just went back to mono and Reaction Tackle braid.
BINGO!
Good video, good points. I stopped mentioning these things to other fishermen long ago. Most guys who have just spent 4X what I paid for line don't like to admit to being suckers. If I wait for a couple seasons the smart ones will usually figure it out themselves. One of the main reasons that cheap line is often superior is that many guys will delay re-spooling expensive line because of the cost. I re-spool as soon as any question of line condition crosses my mind. Thanks for the video!
Yes, yes, and yes! Thank YOU!
Very interesting mono mono mono video thanks for the advice it was much goodness value thumbs up for flouro all the way. Tight lines happy fishes
I tried Fluoro for crankbaits and actually hung up more, so I went back to mono. I believe it's because mono acts more like a rubber band so the bait bounces off cover vs Fluoro allows it to dig in.
Flouro also reduces the action of cranks significantly! Just not worth the extra $$$! Thanks for hanging out with us, Robert!
@@Tyler-zw4kq what you "lose" in "sinkability" is forgiveness and durability. Which is a huge con. Thanks, Tyler!
Have you ever seen the results of stretch tests performed on mono and fluoro ? The difference was negligible .. there is not enough difference in the two to worry about it.
@@thomasneal7126 AMEN THOMAS!!
@Thomas Neal The stretch between floro and mono may be insignificant, but the better transparency factor of floro has helped my Brother and me catch significantly more fish than others on charters on the Gulf.
Mono is pretty good now, especially Sufix, but I use a lot of Seaguar Red Label fluorocarbon. That stuff is more sensitive with less stretch. I enjoy it.
Thanks, Zack! Tight lines!
stretch is good
🤘BITCHIN🤘Just getting back into fishing after 35yrs. Great vid, love the no bs! So much new crazy gear out there now, using my 1984 zebco 33 combo to catch great crappie and bass in ohio!
Right on!
Couldn’t agree more, I started out the season last year with braid on nearly everything. Yes the were some advantages under certain circumstances, but there were also some big disadvantages under certain circumstances. I ended the season with either mono or copolymer on everything, here’s the kicker, I didn’t see a reduction in my catch. My PB smallmouth bass and Chain Pickerel, which I caught near the end of the season, were both on mono
YES SIR, PAUL!
Refreshing to hear the straight goods on line! I agree that you don’t need a bunch of super overpriced hyped-up line and other gear to go fishing. I recently went to an outdoor show in Canada where I saw fly rods being sold for Cdn $1300.00! Are you serious? Like my wife said, “do you think the fish is going to know any difference?” Ha ha!
Absolutely not! lmao
Thanks, Shane! You married a good one!
I'm with you, the only difference from forocarban and mono is in super clear water like the great lakes seen it in person. I use mono all the time and never had a break off.
I got significantly outfished once when we were fishing live alewives in gin clear water for brown trout. I had 10lb mono, my buddy 10lb fluoro. He outfished me like 6 to 2. So maybe there's something to the visibility thing, but more likely just coincidence. That said, in those conditions, I use fluoro, but that's the only time.
Exactly and we fish some HEAVY stuff down here in Florida! Never an issue.
Definitely not the line...could have been anything that day!
@@thegoods2240 I here ya, that same thing happened to me on a tournament on lake Michigan by portage Indiana ,got outfished using same baits as my partner but he had 8lb florocarbon and I had 8lb Mono and I couldn't believe when I grabbed one of his rods I started getting bit. Crazy, great video I though I was the only guy out there that still fished this way.
Good video. Years ago I would fish smallmouth in the Schoolkill River, PA, with a lightweight spinning combo with 6lb. mono. I was pulling 3-5 pound monsters all day long. I did have to PLAY the fish, which to me is a skill. So I wasn't horsing them into shore with that rig, but it was an awesome experience fishing that way. Tournament fishing is about NOT playing the fish, just getting the fish in the boat. Braid and FC makes sense - not putting it down. So now years later I'm getting into FW fishing again. I'm a weekender. I bought close to $50 worth of braid, for two rigs, and I don't really like it, especially for the price. Sure it has it's place and I'm not putting B/FC down, but I'll be spooling everything I fish moving forward with mono, or mono/leader, and I live in FL! Peace y'all...
Love it! Thank you for stopping by!
This video made me evaluate myself. I grew up like everyone else using mono. Mostly berkley big game. Always worked well and I don't remember snapping my line on hooksets hardly at all. Ofcourse I had to make the transition to fluoro because I'm a bass angler and that's just what your supposed to do now....I have noticed through several years that flouro gets brittle and I believe I've had more break offs with it. As far as braid goes I like power pro 50 and 65 lb for the grassy lake I fish. The video has me wanting to make a special drive to Walmart and get me some 25 lb big game and respool my flippin stick 🤣
DO ITTTTTTT!!!
As everyone already knows and says, "The fish don't know what line, lure or rod/reel you are using," if they are hungry or feel like attacking they will! Rock on, fish on! Wahi' Valleys
Couldn't agree more.....people try to sell that you need flouro so the fish can't see it...LIKE THEY CAN'T SEE ALL THE WIRES ON AN ALABAMA RIG?! Thanks, for stopping by! 🎣
I can tell you that up north, it does matter. Dirty water i agree with you. We have 10-20 ft visibility and fluoro matters!!! Braid to leader so you can run braid for years without swapping and use leaders of fluoro. Mono up north isnt the same as mono down south
Hey Ben!
Throw what you have confidence in and tight lines brother!
@@CheekysFishing right on🤘
@Benjamin Lea I concur with ur assessment of floro. On charters in FL, Many shorties have been caught and released after Seeing mono. When they grow to keeper size they are ‘mono shy.’ The use of floro has helped my Brother and me hook up with the Big Ones. Wish I could say I caught them all, but usually the mono on the boat rods parted way with my floro leader and hook.
I’ve used spider wire since the 90’s and have loved it. Have a few issues now and again but that happens over time. I’ve used 4-8lb mono on ultralights as well but I always lost way to many lures on mono. I fish everything creeks, ponds, rivers, lakes, ocean. At the end of the day it comes down to preference, in my experience after you’ve caught a few fish on mono you have to get rid of the section of line you’ve been fishing with because it’s been stretched to much otherwise the line becomes weak and the smallest hang ups will begin costing you rapala’s/spinners. Just my .02 cents
We had quite the day on the lake the other day fishing 15# BGM (Chatterbait MiniMax fishing) and didn't retie once. 5 legit fish through the grass.
Gotta love the stuff. But, it's all about confidence in what you're throwing! Thanks for stopping by!
I'm currently trying out yo-zuri hybrid because I got it on sale for dirt cheap. I'm waiting for a little warmer weather so I can go out and catch some fish before I decide how I like it. That being said, my first initial thoughts of the yo-zuri hybrid line from the few outing I've gone on are 1. It comes off the spool smooth and I can cast it a country mile. So that's cool.
2. Rigging up seems difficult. Specifically when rigging up a dropshot. The line isn't very user friendly so far. I'm hoping that'll change as it gets used more but we'll see. And 3. It is a bit fragile, which kind of took me by surprise. I expected it to be more abrasion resistant.
I guess I'll see what the future holds.
It's definitely not as supple as mono. But, it's easier than flouro. It's an in between. But, still cheap.
I've actually been on a mission the last few years to find the very BEST fishing line...and they all pretty much say the same thing in the product description...that there's is the best. You gotta pay to find out and not all lines are created equally. I use braid as my main line in all situations, ygk upgrade x8, gosen 16 and vicious fishing no-fade braid are the best by far...and I've tried them all. I use a sunline fluorocarbon leader because it stretchs less...like a lot less and u can tell the difference in sensitivity ASTRONOMICALY plus its super strong. In some situations that u need your line to stretch Mono could come in handy but so does a more parabolic bend in ur rod. I haven't used Mono for a while now and that's because I experimented with tons of different lines to find what works best. Yes u can catch fish on Mono all day and twice on Tuesday but if you want to get the very best out of your equipment braid to floro is the way to go. Even with a 6 foot leader the sensitivity is night and day with Mono vs floro but there's so many different products on the market one will never know where the grass is greener unless u pay to find out. But that's just my opinion...
Hey! Whatever works for you is what's best for you! Thanks for stopping by, David!
@@CheekysFishing yea hey u should try that vicious fishing no-fade braid it's a really good mainline and lasts a lot longer than than pretty much all the other lines out there.
I've found I've increased the number of fish caught using braid to a fluorocarbon leader, rather than using mono. I think the biggest issue between flouro and mono, is how it reflects light in water. Certain fish which get spooked by visible line won't bite mono, but they will fluorocarbon. Most fisherman I know say the same thing. You're entitled to yourn opinion, but briad to fluorocarbon is by far superior.
Love the yo Zuri hybrid cheap and effective
Absolutely! Probably the most underrated line out there. Not talked about a lot. Thanks for stopping by!
I just bought my first yozuri fluorocarbon reasonably priced , I use cx Pline cheap price
Yeah I remember my brother casted and snagged a tree about ten feet high and 20 yards away with 8 lb Stren. He tightened his drag , straightened his rod all pulled really hard till it snapped and it sounded like a gunshot! I’ll never forget how hard he pulled and how loud it was when it broke. That mono is strong!
Mono is hands down the best line there is and it's CHEAP!
I've been there before expect that hook came flying back at me!
I couldnt agree more thanks for the tip on reaction braid I never saw it
It's great stuff! They just released no-fade options as well!
The suffix monos are just excellent, and I run it on several of my rigs, However, I prefer suffix braid. As for fish being spooked by line, my brother and I are constantly testing. Same lure, same general casting area, I catch just as many fish, usually more than he does, his is mono, mine braid, and my braid is usually a bit towards white from having the dye come off the line from use and/or the sun. Rick's lure looks like it's swimming on it's own with the mono nearly invisible, my line is so obvious even I was wondering why fish would hit it, but they do.
Suffix is good stuff as well!
We use their 4/6# on our panfish/tilapia setup.
It makes a difference. And it's been proven many times by many people. I fish all types of lines for different scenarios and there are times floro isn't the best and times mono isn't. It's common sense. People that fish weekly and put a lot of time into it can really see and feel the difference. I used to fish mono on crankbaits and my hookups were less I had to have a stiffer rod which in turn was less sensitive. I'm all for fishing what you want and what makes you happy but certain things work better, it's all about improving. Just like using a extra heavy punching rod can be used for cranking and will catch fish but you will loose more fish. It's all common sense if you just think and are not so biased.
Thanks, Ryker!
I get a few extra feet of depth from shallow square bills by giving them a few wraps of lead wire on the front hook. You can make them suspend too if you want. Gave you a sub for making me rethink line :)
We really appreciate it!
That is an awesome idea!
I’m 69 y.o. - have not done any “serious “ fishing for the past 25-28 years. Over past couple of years I became addicted to the new spin reels, bait casters, & lures for the freshwater species. I gotta admit I wasted ($2000.00 to $3000.00) on all new rods, tackle n lures. I had to have all this new braid & Fluor carbon. Haven’t caught anything on it all yet (to skite about). All these knots is beyond me. All those years back fishing with my Dad, estuary & outside fishing two knots would be tops. It’s good to see you telling the true fishing story.
I’ve put braid on all the new spin reels plus on my new Shimanos, 50W & 80W
You know what, I haven’t even got a floating boat. Needs new motor.
Fishermen & their tackle quickly dries out the wallet. I’ve subbed & will keep my screen ready to get more of your tips. 🐟🎣🚣♂️🇦🇺👍🏻
Thank you, Peter! Happy to have you onboard!
I couldn’t agree more, I’m glad someone finally said it!
Yes sir!
I fish all artificial and braid was a game changer when it came out. If you are just hunking bait then mono is fine. Braid doesn't stretch like mono but is about a million times more sensitive. I would never go back to mono.
We use braid on spinning gear for freshwater and saltwater....just not the crazy expensive stuff!
I disagree with this, while there are reasons to use mono advantagously specifically easier top water fishing control and price which I would use it for too. If you like to fish the bottom and deep water contours the sensitivity that braid and even Flouro provides can really make a difference in some scenarios, it's not a must have though clearly like some people may say. There is also the durability of mono vs other types of line and you get what you pay for. I've found mono to become brittle and junk WAY faster than braided line which I've used on rods for an entire season or longer while different types of braid just don't hold up and start bird nesting like crazy, this can happen with Flouro too. Oh and braid casts further as well and you can spool more on a reel. Also, tying a leader lets you break the cheaper line off at the end, be is mono or flouro leader. This also saves you time and money of needless respooling.
IMO braided line + mono or flouro leader is the best way to fish and I end up with less stories of how I lost the fish etc. Alternatley a straight flouro or mono setup is actually better in certain scenarios. I suppose I am probably a much more serious fisherman than 90% of people out there thinking about this now.
Hey Code! Thanks for stopping by!
We talk about the braid we use in the video. But, will never ever throw flouro.
67 and still use all the stuff you mentioned ! I've not really changed anything most of my life and catch fish big time !
BINGO!
Great video. But, context is everything. Up here in the northeast, us Yankees do benefit from finesse fishing with ultra lite tackle and the fluorocarbon leader is mandatory when fishing certain places like the mighty St.Lawrence River. I do agree though that it’s way overblown for certain situations.
I call BS. When we are flounder fishing if you come with us and use mono we'll out fish you 10:1 over mono. We've proven this time and again. For certain things Braid is just necessary. No you don't need the most expensive braid. Also, the leader will catch you more and better fish without giving you too much stretch that keeps you from feeling the fish. But hey, thanks for keeping those of us that do better than the ones that don't and convincing them to stay that way. lol Y'all save your money. We'll catch more fish. :-)
Grew up fishing in Barnegat Light, NJ -- never used flouro for Fluke!
They are not lies. Each line is different and each one is better in its own way at certain techniques, like for instance braid is way better for punching thick grass or fishing hollow frogs in thick grass than mono. You did not state the truth or expose lies, you just expressed you opinion on which lines you choose to use. I have tried both lines you show (that you like) but I like other brands of mono and copolymer lines better. The best thing to do is just use what works for you..
Hey EJ! Thanks for stopping by! Tight lines!
Thanks a million dude!
Thank YOU, Dimitris!
Hadn't fished since I was 35. I'm 60 now and starting again. Mono was all we ever used back then with good results. I do like the braided light test lines for ultralight casting coming off a 1/2" spool without deforming, curling. Sorry if my lingo is out of date but I refuse to update it since we all know that updates can crash an old but perfectly good system... 😉
Always a pleasure to talk shop with someone who has experience like you!
Truth. I've learned this over time. I'm in PA. I use 6lb Berkley smooth casting on all my rods. Trout or bass. If I go to lake erie, I'd probably put some 8lb on. Maybe. Just watch major league fishing on TV. Those guys have 20-30lb line on, for what?! 98% of their catches are 3lbs or less. Every one in awhile someone will catch a 6-9lb bass. 6lb mono will stretch some. Those 9 pounders could be caught easily with 6lb test.
AMEN!
He's right. Tournament pro on the St. John's river said he uses 15lbs Berkeley Big Game (green) for everything, including salt. It just works.
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I had to learn the hard way. I'm a Sacalait/Crappie fisherman and I switched to fluorocarbon. I love fluro to a certain extent. I hate the line twist and God forbid you get a wind knot 😑. If you don't spool it right, it jump's off the spool. Mono is tons more manageable, cast better and catches the same amount of fish. I also get better knot strength with mono. I guess in certain situations if varies
You are dang right about manageability and knot strength!
Thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Thanks for stopping by!
Great video and it seems to make sense. How did anyone ever catch fish before floro and braid became so popular.
RIGHT?!
I’m old and bull headed,But over the years I’ve tried about every new line that hit the market. I always go back to stren. Works good for me.
Ol' Faithful!!
I agree 100%. I fished with a guy that always was using the newest and most expensive gear he could get. I used what I always use and was never outfished by him.
Exactly - ya just don't need it!
I’m in my 50’s. So glad to see a young man have it all figured out and speaking common sense! For those that don’t agree....how did we catch fish with cat gut and a zebco 202???
The rich kids had the 404’s. lol.
What your saying can be said for soooo many things now n days.... GOD, trucks, cars, boats, guns.... I digress. Keep doing the good work.
Passing on what I learned from your generation to help out everyone!
Thanks, A W!
could not agree more ....before braid and floro ..we adjusted with rod action to compensate for line stretch...i think braid and floro have a place with advantages ..but mono has served me well for over 50 yrs thank you
Yes sir!!!
How often do you respool? Now granted I don't fish every single weekend but my 6 year old seaguar red label landed my pb a few years ago
On our casting gear -- probably every 3 months but that's just because of retying honestly.
Spinning gear gets braid to a mono leader so that's a by year deal. Saltwater stuff every year. Freshwater every 2. (for braid)
Braid is nice because you can spool from one reel to another and you basically have brand new braid.
I have a question about fishing line, I found a brand new package of fishing line unopened in my tacklebox. How long does it last or because it sits in tacklebox in the heat? I should probably replace it after a few years.
I tried it all!! I didn’t buy 1500 yard spools, but I’ve came to the same conclusion. Mono is the best for my fishing best knot strength and handling plus can’t beat the price, no problem respooling anytime I want
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Started fishing Texas coast in 1971. There was Stren and Ande. Stren went on the light tackle rod and Ande went on the surf rod. Never have used braid and no desire to.
Love it!! 🎣
This makes a lot of sense. I've caught a good sized 14 inch brown trout on 8 lb monofilament line while doing some night fishing. There really is no need for the other kinds of line as I've seen lots of people using just mono line and having just as much success as with the other lines.
Agreed, Peyton!
I think people catch a couple on Flouro and get caught up in the "confidence" thing.
Also agree I caught a 32” steelhead over 13 lbs on 8 pound test
I agree to a point. You absolutely do not need to break the bank and waste money on fishing line. I use braid on 90% of my stuff. I don't buy the expensive kind. I buy the bass pro xps. It's cheap. I run fluorocarbon on my chatterbait rod. Again, I don't buy expensive fluorocarbon. I just don't. I have yet to loose a fish from a broken line.
Now for the really big mind blowing news.... You don't have to drop a huge chunk of money on a rod and real to catch fish. Yeah you need to pair the right rod and reel with the right circumstances, but you don't have to spend a ton of money to do it.
None of setups are over $115 total -- including our saltwater stuff. Agree!
Been on that nanofilament the last couple years. As a bank fisherman, nothing has outperformed a main spool of nano for me on a spinning reel. Nothing casts farther. Distance is everything when bank fishing. 14 lb nano, unbelievably long casts, no joke. Pretty dam strong line to. The line comes off the reel like its not even there
Never tried it out! Will have to take a look.
@@CheekysFishing I could be biased with it but ive loved it since my first cast. I got 3 big smallies yesterday and a couple largies with straight nanofilament. 20 inches, 4.40 lbs was the biggest of the day.
@@therealkosmora229 HECK YEAH!
A test was carried out using a solid spool "small drum" wrapped with sandpaper over here in the UK regarding the mono vs flouro, (same diameter, same breaking strain) and actually the Flouro was a thicker diameter than the mono for the same breaking strain. Test after test the Flouro failed as both lines were reeled over and over the solid spool wrapped with sandpaper. The mono came out tops every time. The only thing Flouro is good for catching is anglers wallets😂😂😂. Tight lines from the UK. P.S. Good to see at least one guy knows his stuff 👌.
Preach Derek!
I've caught piles of fish on cheap 6 lb test mono in the saltwater, including large snook, a cobia and plenty of redfish.
But lately I've been trying braid because of the extra line capacity and durability. I have rods with mono too. I've never bought fluorocarbon except for a spool of leader and I'm not impressed with it. Maybe it's better for jigs as main line because it sinks but I do fine with what I have. What I need is more time on the water.
Our inshore and surf rigs are cheap braid to mono leader. Never failed us and the casting distance in the wind doesn't hurt either. But, it's always Reaction Tackle braid. Thanks for stopping by!
I’m retired now, been fishing since I was a kid living on a lake. I live in west Fl on the gulf.
I have never used anything but mono. I buy quality mono, trilene, Ande etc. my light line leaders are mono, I use coated wire leader I make for heavy line. I never use braid or flouro, because I don’t see the need.
I’ve lost fish from line breakage sure, usually when it’s to light for the fish or gets cut off on structure.
I’ve not seen a single person out fishing me because of line selection.
It’s inexpensive, easy to tie, for me and the wife and anyone we take fishing. Maybe pro bass guys need braid, I don’t know. I catch bass all the time, but I don’t do it for a living. I can say this, I know guys that only fish braid, and they “ claim” to lose huge fish all the time, way more than we do…
AMEN!
Couldn't agree more. I have been using 20 lb Trilene Big Game for trophy bass for over 40 years with only a few breakoffs. It works great. I also use it for bottom fishing grouper and snapper(10-80 lb test). I only use braid for long distance casting and for some soft plastics.
This is the way!
I've been using reaction tackle braid for 3 years now. Good and inexpensive. The same goes for Big game mono. It's tough stuff.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Love to hear it man!
I can guarantee it's never let you down!
Agree 100% I, only use mono and find braid difficult to tie knots I can do all my knots but it is more time-consuming and tedious.
I used to main mono, I still do on lighter gear, but I've found braid to help a lot when it comes to retaining high strength while being more compact and light. Typically braid is more slicker so knots are usually more hard to do since it can come undone. I mostly use the palomar knot for braid as it's the best knot to use to not come undone and such.
Hey Jay! Braid is complicated....we only use a palomar for direct connections and a double uni for leader knots just because they're easy!
Took the words right out of my mouth!
I've been fishing for 50 years
And my reels are 90% Braid and 10% Mono.
But let me say this everyone should use what they like.
Agree, Joe.
Hello I agree with you 💯👍🎣 it's true what you are saying I use straight monopelament because I like buying inexpensive clearance fishing lures and fishing gear and line
Don't need to break the bank to have a phenomenal day on the water!
I started using high viz yellow on Lake Oneida before using bright line was popular. The smallmouth and largemouth never had a problem with the color.
They never do! Thanks, Tav!
let's be clear, through a lot of trial i have found that a floro leader is fine but a whole spool of the stuff is garbage. mono is ok but with the memory issues and fraying while fishing structure you will be re-spooling more often than you would have to fishing braid. they all have their positives and negatives, and to each their own but personally i find that braid+blood knot+floro leader is the jam in central GA. straight braid for top water or for punching jigs of course. i no longer use spinning gear after adding a couple BFS reels to the line up, so this is me speaking from a casting perspective. tight lines. good stuff.
Tight lines!
💯 I LOVE Trilene big game. It's all I run on my bait casters. I run braid with a mono leader on my spinning reels. I rarely have issues. I've found florocarbon to be brittle under certain conditions.
Nothing casts better on a baitcaster than BBG in my opinion. Love it dude!
I’ve been fishing PLine CXX 6lb. green for river smallmouth. It’s a copolymer line, tough, great knot strength, low stretch for solid hook sets. No need for a floro leader. I love it.
Heck yeah!