ErP is basically "don't use power when off". It usually translates to having USB unpowered when off, and often having LAN unpowered when off (= no WOL). The name comes from a European regulation that requests electronics to not waste power when plugged but unused.
This. I was coming back to comment on it, as with my PC, I need to ENABLE it because one of my USB or LAN devices (n ot sure which one is casuing it) likes to power my PC on after I do a full shut down. I'll come back to my pc hours after I did a full shutdown, only to see that it's been powered on for several hours and sitting at the login screen because one of my devices is kicking it on.
The AMD overclocking menu in the BIOS is for the Ryzen Master software. That way Ryzen Master (AMD software overclock utility) has a default place on all boards to look for and control those setting, rather than be programmed for 300 different BIOS layouts.
Really useful video. Motherboard manufacturers really need to up their game and provide full documentation for their BIOS. Not just what options are but what they do and the implications of changing them. It's not like Gigabyte don't already have this information!
SVM is indeed required for virtualization. If you are on Windows for example and you want to enable Hyper-V to run some virtualized operating systems, you'll need to enable it. Similarly if you want to run Docker on Windows it will tell you to enable virtualization, which will require this setting to be enabled.
Thanks for going over all the details of the Gigabyte MB. I am still not comfortable overclocking, but you definitely helped to de-mystify the process. I am getting a 3700X with a Gigabyte Elite and I am mostly concerned with how to set up XMP for the RAM. I am moving up from a AMD 8350 and Gigabyte Dual Bios GA990FX. I am hoping to see a significant performance boost.
Don't listen to the haters. I really appreciate the video as I have spent a lot of time looking for some kind of guide for Aorus bios. Especially since I was setting all my parameters in the overclocking menu, this probably saved me a lot of tears and money. Keep up the good work 💪
02:25 SVM needs to be enabled if you want to run a virtual machine or any android emulator. 37:14 you can find your stable cpu vcore for your manual OC with the setting in the tweaker tab and once you found it, enter it in the amd overclocking tab instead, to preserve low power states for a lower power consumption. also, entering any cpu frequency and cpu vcore voltage in the amd OC menu automatically maxes out your power limits which you'd otherwise have to do manually. also, the AMD Overlocking menu not resetting when you clear cmos might not be present on every mainboard. I'm pretty sure it resets properly on my Asus C6H. But in any case, any mainboard that has a flash bios button can't really be bricked anyway (as flashing via the button always deletes the whole bios first).
@@tarfeef_4268 by "not present on every mainboard" I mean every mainboard from every manufacturer. It might still very much be an issue with every gigabyte mainboard.
The menu doesn't reset properly on my X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wifi when I clear CMOS. However if I load optimized defaults it does. I've had other issues though where the board will just stop respecting certain values I give it, e.g. no matter what Vcore SOC I wanted it to run at it was stuck at 1.1 volts. I was only able to fix that by reflashing the BIOS.
@@LextraGaming I was referring to your claim that bios flashing would fix it. It does not. I had to RMA my board because it failed to boot and failed to reset, and flashing via usb didn't work.
@Buildzoid I can help with the SVM mode to some extend, as I understand it SVM is a system which allows the software to share addresses with the hardware, allowing software to get access to pieces of hardware. For example, you would have to enable SVM to use PCIe-passthrough. What is PCIe-passthrough? Basically you can assign a graphics card to a virtual machine instead of the host sytsem (for example assigning it to Windows in a VM when Linux is the host). Enabling SVM is one of the steps which you need to take to have the graphics cards to have its own IOMMU-group, IOMMU is a system to address one specific piece of hardware. If you have two graphics cards (or one graphics card and integrated/onboard graphics) then you could assign one graphics card to the host and one to the VM, allowing a Linux user to use Windows only in a VM and get native-level performance, of course with the caveat that you need to sacrifice one CPU-core and 0.5-1 GB of RAM for Linux. Most people here will think about gaming but there are many more serious use-cases for which you would like that. For example, you might be a developer and prefer Linux but have to use Windows for that one program and you want to run both parallel instead of dual booting all the time. Or you have to use Linux only software (I have been told that for certain fields there is Linux-only software which they need to use or Linux simply has better software) but you also want to run some Windows software, you need to run both OS's parallel. SVM allows for that without sacrificing performance. A VM without a graphics card is kind of miserable. Why is SVM not on by default? I don't know. If anyone who reads this does know it, please let me know.
Indeed it's odd that it's off by default. Infact every consumer board i've touched has had virtualization off by default. I don't think there are any adverse effects from having it enabled if the user does not use virtualization, so it must be design choice.
@@Raivo_K I am not a specialist at it (I do use VM's a bit but that is all) but I only read that it would increase security for VM's when you enable SVM.
I know this is old , and as someone that does use SVM/AMD-V and find it a pain that the default is disabled, I also have a theory as to why it is disabled (and agree with the reasoning). A while back there was a proof of concept rootkit (bluepill) that leveraged SVM (and Intel's VTx, same thing basically), so I believe they disable it out of an abundance of caution since most people will never need it. I don't believe said rootkit has ever been seen in the wild, so if you do use SVM it's not something to worry about, but if every single system had it enabled by default it would create a much larger pool of potentially vulnerable machines and make attempting to deploy it by a malicious actor much more tempting. In the end, disabling it affects very few people, and those of us that use it know to enable it. You also don't need to sacrifice cores or memory with more modern virtual machines, both systems share the resources (I have multiple virtual machines that have access to a significant chunk of my ram and half my cores with and there is basically no noticeable impact to my host OS when they are idle). Also, as a correction, SVM is an instruction set that allows higher privileged access to the CPU, bypassing old methods that used software virtualization methods instead of hardware instructions, it provides a huge speedup to virtual machines even if you don't assign physical hardware to it.
@@Cha0sWaffle I don't know if this specific rootkit is the reason why they disabled it but for sure it has to do with security. For my university class I had to use VM's which required the user to enable it.
Great video, Buildzoid! Thank you! I get my X570 Aorus Master today. This video has me looking forward to getting in the BIOS and messing with settings. I've been an Asus fanboy for literally decades and this is my first mobo from another board. Long story short, Asus finally p!ss#d me off to the point I even contacted support after 20+ years of using their products personally and in client's builds. In Asus' defense, they are RMAing my Strix X470-F, but I needed a mobo to keep my own rig up and running. I was looking at new boards anyway and bought the X570 Master over the Hero VIII.
This cleared up soooo much for me! Thanks! I almost bricked a BIOS on my X570 Master, using AMD Overclocking Menu. I didn't realise those settings would stick even through a clear CMOS. By sheer dumb luck, I "only" had issues booting in Windows, so I was able to flash a new bios...
One addition to what Buildzoid said @ 39:09 He is correct that you could brick your motherboard but it is not for sure if it doesn't POST. I actually did try out 1933 MHz for the FCLK from the settings menu, it wouldn't POST but it recoverd. Later I tried a manual OC of the CPU which is not a multiple of 25 MHz and it wouldn't POST again but eventually after trying to clear the BIOS, removing the battery and hitting the Q-flash button (I tried it all) it would boot again. In short, it is risky to touch the settings menu in its current state but it is not an automatic brick. Obviously when I did those things there was no public warning about it yet. As Buildzoid says it: "touch the overclock part of the settings menu if your life isn't exciting enough". :p
I have no idear how other brands handle it, but in my experience if you screw up the settings in that menu it tries to post like 6 times or so and then it resets ALL settings on the mainboard. Including the Fan management and so on. So i am pretty sure it is save, if you don't consider loosing your settings a huge deal - which i wouldn't. I set the Boost Overlock too high and basically after a few powercycles all my settings were gone and i started to set them, but go with a more conservative +75MHZ.
It's plenty safe and if you look at BIOS progression since this video was posted it's basically (and always had been) Gigabyte's menu wherein they expose the various features you'd otherwise access via the AMD CBS (Common BIOS Settings) menu which is an AMD requirement for mobos
Thank you, you helped me a lot! I come from a x99 Asus MB and things were much more simple there. I was just lost, now I know where I'm going :) Thank you sir. Awsome video!
ErP is part of the eco-design policy. This is required to use the CE sign and says how much power a PSU can use when "off". It started with 0.5W and is now at 0.3W without WOL. :)
( ACS primarily enables support for manual assignment of PCIe® graphics cards within logical containers called “IOMMU groups.” The hardware resources of an IOMMU group can then be dedicated to a virtual machine. ) So if you want to run linux with a virtual windows which has bare metal access to a deticated gpu over pci-vfio, this helps you. The Same goes with PCIe Ari Support, helps with SR-IOV
Thank you for the video man. Aorus X570 elite here, but basically the same. I'm having freezes at idle, never gaming or stress testing ... I just found out the option for the PSU "typical current idle" lol fingers crossed xD The PSU is great but it is from 2013 so...
That's one heck of an awesome video; fast, precise, to the point... really like it, thanks!! Sadly I can't double-like this video^^ SVM Mode: needed for Bare-Metal-Hypervisor and normal virtualization with 64bit VMs XMP High Frequ.: fixed fabric(?) clock: L1=1600, L2=1700, L3=1800MHz ErP: if I'm not mistaken, this is for a lower stand-by power, but will disable WoL and the likes IOMMU: hardware passthrough for Bare-Metal-Hypervisor Security Options: should the Admin password be needed when entering the bios or on every system boot LAN PXE option rom: enable/disable Boot-From-Lan and the "bios" from the NIC You mentioned: "low current idle" and the need for a new PSU - what is really needed from the PSU for that to work? I mean, I usually don't upgrade the PSU if it's not defective (or I need a more W), so I'm still on my 'Coolermaster M850' from 2008... Cheers!
Onboard Debug LED turns off Q-Code and other status LEDs like the BIOS-LED once loaded into Windows. I find it quite useful because those BIOS-LEDs are really bright.
Is the "dangerous AMD Overclocking menu" still a thing in later BIOS too? I have a B550 Pro and was wondering if I should be careful attempting to use the Curve Optimiser located in that menu to lower my stock temps.
Interesting that I don’t understand many of the things there(not a hardware guy, just a software engineer) but the things he said that he doesn’t know, I actually knew all of them :) SVM - short: virtualization support(think Intel VT-x/VT-d for AMD), don’t know why it’s disabled by default though... IOMMU - MMU(memory management unit - maps the virtual memory address[think: OS abstraction] to the actual physical address[L1/L2/L3/RAM]) + I/O(input/output - your keyboard, display, mouse, etc...). So, it’s the “MMU for I/O devices”, it allows your “virtual devices” to be accessed directly from the virtualized system, ex: Linux host shares Nvidia card with the virtualized Windows, to be able to play games without the overhead of a virtualized I/O device - through IOMMU, Windows can now access the I/O device directly, without the overhead(the host[Linux] loses access to it though). L1/L2 prefetcher - your memory controller can see patterns of memory access(ex: continuously reading every 3rd element of an array) and predict based on that, what is the next address you will request from the RAM, so it will start pulling data from RAM even before you requested it, thus, when you get to it, it will be waiting for you in L1 cache. This trick/feature is critical for system performance, especially for things like games. Most of the time, the CPU waits for memory reads, it’s the slowest thing(On Bulldozer CPU: reading from RAM, on average, is about 100 times slower than reading from L1).
A limitation of the less expensive Aorus motherboards is that you can only set the RAM-voltage with steps of 0.001V, not with 0.0005V. I am curious if this is an artificial lock (the circuitry can do it but Gigabyte doesn't allow it because of market-segmenting) or because the circuitry of those motherboards can't handle steps of 0.0005V. In general my biggest problem with Gigabyte X570 at the moment is that the POST-times are around 3 times as long (around 15 seconds) as for a low-power laptop with a Coffee Lake CPU (5 seconds). I hope that Gigabyte will fix that, otherwise it is the first and last time that I bought anything from Gigabyte.
The 15 seconds fixed boot time affects every X570 board from what i've seen. I guess we will see if next months AGESA update addresses this or not. My money is on problably not. Personally i don't really care. I came from P67/2500K system that had double post (boots, shuts down, boots properly) which took even longer tho it was UEFI BIOS and i had CSM disabled. Some people have reported sleep not working but i think that might be a PSU compatibility issee. I had the same problem on my P67 that i never got sleep to work until i bought a newer PSU last year. The only obvious bug currently affecting X570 Aorus line is the slow BIOS UI bug with CSM disabled. Use CTRL+F6 to switch from FHD to VGA resolution (temporary workaround). Using Aorus Master and 3800X here. Very happy with my first GB board. Previously i had always used ASUS.
@@Raivo_K "The 15 seconds fixed boot time affects every X570 board from what i've seen." That is what I speculated but I hadn't read many experiences from others on this. However, I guarantee you that Gigabyte itself also introduces some weird bugs. I seems that both AMD and Gigabyte have a lot of work to do. I expect that eventually these things will get fixed but it would be nice if it would just work properly on day 1. I have no idea how far they will get with their next big updates but I would bet a lot of money on this improving things substantially but not being the last update which fixes problems on this platform. I would speculate that we see the results of a rushjob while both the motherboard companies (not accomodated anymore to deal with that many changes in architecture that fast) and AMD are understaffed to get this code fixed in a reasonable time. Possibly the PICe 4.0 and chipset-fan compliated it even more. Three examples of issues on my Aorus Elite which seem to be Gigabyte its fault and not related to the AGESA.. - Leaving the BIOS is like Russian roulette. Even if your system boots 100% of the time while using your PC (which is the case for me), when you leave the BIOS there is a reasonably big chance that it will powercycle. For example, today I simply enabled two virtualization options (IOMMU and that abbreviation which Buildzoid didn't know) and I disabled wake on LAN for the Intel ehternet-card. Only I/O-related. Yet, the motherboard didn't start, even starting the powercycle was agonizing (it took 30-60 seconds before the fans started to ramp up). - I always disable the USB-LED (I hate that light). When an OC-setting fails then immediately the USB-LED turns on again, but it powercycles three times (always 3 times) before it shows the Gigabyte-logo and when I enter the BIOS it says that the BIOS has been reset. - When I OC the FCLK it will boot 20 times but then all of the sudden it doesn't or worse, it resets the memory to default without powercycling or notification. I had it happen, I verified that the memory was clocked at 3666 MT's, after rebooting (from Linux to Windows) it had reset the memory but there was no powercycling or whatever.
I'm sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience. I have not experienced any of those issues on Master. Granted it is a more expensive motherboard but that is no justification. If you have not done so already it might be a good idea to let others and Gigabyte's rep (GBT-MatthewH) know about these problems in Overclock.net forum thread: www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1728360-gigabyte-x570-aorus-owners-thread.html
Hey Buildzoid. Thanks for the amazing Bios walkthrough. On B550 with a 5950X I am only seeing OC settings via the “Dangerous” menu, and not through the AMD CBS settings. Im wondering if this is different and there’s a good way to test whether these settings can / will clear on Ryzen 5000. Mind you this is with the latest F11n Bios on an Aorus AX B550i itx motherboard
Platform Thermal throttle limit helps if you notice your Cooler is not enough for your CPU, so you can limit the heat to a certain level until you get a better one then leave it in Auto. Just a tip!
Hi ya buildzoid I don't know if you look at these things and I don't know load about this over clocking but I have been playing with memory for the last 24hrs seeing the different effects little changes make but what I was Gonna ask was I have a 3600 nothing special but I managed to stabilise my IF oc at 1900mhz using the soc I didn't change it much I went 1.1 to 1.125 and that went from crashes all the time to stable does the soc effect the IF or this just something weird or odd ?
I totally have been using danger oc I didn't see even in this video where u can safely change the IF I'll reply watch but I've been doing it in danger mode and I've fully locked it a few times it does sort it self if it does not post eventually and yeah totally lost my profiles got to the end and I was chuckling cos I've cursed the bios save setting on the other chip lol
Hi I just bought this motherboard with a 3900k. I am new to overclocking and you said one shouldnt static overclock that cpu. Do you have a video explaining why? Thanks. Great video.
It is basicly because your cpu clock will be fixed to the value that you put there and when idle it wouldn't drop, so for thermal and energetic reasons it doesn't make sense
41:46 Or you can put a sane limit, like 80~85ºC, so that your CPU DOES NOT melt when you're trying things out and you're somehow temp-constrained (e.g. ambient temp too high), or if you just want to be safe regardless.
I have the X570 I Aorus Pro Wifi ITX board and I'm happy that for something very similar to mine was presented for a change so I can learn without any caveats. I do have to say my board's BCLK is definitely not that high quality or advanced as this one, even though it costs a fortune, which is quite sad.
Some handy advice for the Aorus Elite I just got. Now I just need to master the trick of getting Fclk and memory OC on it. I don't know if it's good or bad that adjusting most settings for this turns out to be worthless. Edit: Got Fclk to 1900 thanks to this video.
5:48 XMP high frequency support is basically just a poorly labeled menu to let you select FCLK 1600, 1700, or 1800, I guess if for whatever reason the CPU doesn't automatically match it to your memory clock when you enable XMP.
Question: you said not to use the CPU overclocking settings in the “Settings” tab, but to instead use the Tweaker tab. But where am I meant to set the clock speed in the tweaker tab? Do I adjust the CPU clock ratio? You said there is no point in static overclocking, but I managed to hit 4.35GHz at 1.325v using Ryder Master. Sorry if this a stupid question, I am new to this.
27:20 Windows wouldn't wake up from standby with my overclocked RAM on the Aorus Elite until I disabled DRAM Power Down Enable. Seems to be a pretty common problem with it.
I have the same problem on Linux. Often it works, sometimes it doesn't. Usually either the mouse or the keyboard won't wake it up, sometimes both. Another weird issue: on the first boot (with a cleared BIOS) my Corsair Strafe Red doesn't work, for successive boots it is not a problem. Not only for the BIOS, also for GRUB (the first boot I can use my arrow keys but one press is considered as multiple inputs for whatever reason). It is not a big issue but it is annoying, I have a worthless rubber dome keyboard from Trust (don't buy, the pain gives off to whatever you put it on!).
Power down enable is a pointless setting anyway. It increases latency by about 5ns when enabled but only provides miniscule power savings when RAM is idle. My main complaint is that it's enabled by default for some reason. Ideally i would want all power saving settings in their own submenu like power down enable, ErP, WOL, dummy load etc.
I have a Aorus X570 Pro and I was able to get rid of a mistake in the manual cpu overclocking section. I had input 4300 for a 3900x and of course it didn't work. So after literally an hour I input 0 and it stuck. I had input 0 a few times before with no luck but it did finally stick.
Okay so I was honestly skipping through this whole video few seconds at a time specifically looking for you to go over PCH fan controls. I watched this video looking for that one thing. I'm currently using the new X570 Asus Crosshair 8 Hero and one thing that annoys me is how frequently the tiny onboard fan ramps up and down. Asus currently does not have manual controls for that little fan in their latest BIOS (1201) and was told Gigabyte would and am considering switching over. Any advice on making this PCH fan more quiet or consistent RPM on Asus and/or Gigabyte?
My X570 Master doesn't have an issue clearing settings from the AMD Overclocking submenu. Clearing CMOS or restoring optimized defaults does the trick. I wonder if this is specific to the extreme or if you have a faulty board?
If you see your hard drives or SSDs as removable drives go to IO Ports then SATA Configuration and disable the Chipset SATA Port Hot Plug option otherwise you might remove a hard drive or SSD accidentally and then have to unplug and then plug your hard drive or SSD back in to get your system to recognize them again. I was wondering why my SSD was showing up as a removable device in the hidden task bar and Googled it and found out why.
There's another funny quirk with CBS - if you set the VDDP voltage to 0, it sets to 1.79V. Not sure if it's dangerous, my CPU seems to be fine atm despite such a "mishap". Also, if you enable any form of XMP, both VDDG and VDPP will be set to 1.05V and 1.1V on auto. Kinda disappointed the the Extreme lacks the external thermal sensors that we have on Gaming 7, it's actually good for RAM monitoring and fan control (to keep it below 50C)
Hmm, I was hoping you would tell the difference between temperature interval 1 and 3 in Smart Fan? I can't find any accurate description of it. Is 1 a short interval, or is 3 the shortest interval? I want to have the longest interval but even Google won't help me with that. Logic would say 3 is the longest, but Gigabyte and logic...... The chipset fan ramping up is still pretty annoying on my x570 Aorus Elite, even on silent.
Something weird which I noticed for XMP on my X570 Elite, which I am not pleased about. When I OC the FCLK to 1833 MHz, it will stick for 1-2 weeks but then all of the sudden it won't boot and after 3 times of powercycling it resets the memory to default settings (2133 MT/s and bad timings). So far it is just annoyinig but I also had it happen that it reset the memory without powercycling so I didn't know it until I was in the OS. As long as I don't OC the FCLK there is no problem, it sticks, as soon as I OC the FCLK the motherboard has this weird behavior. I might have bad luck with the IF on my CPU but then why does it boot 19 times in a row and not the 20th time, that seems a problem on the BIOS-level to me.
I was messing around with BCLK on a X570 Aorus Pro and a R5 3600. had SATA and some chipset sensor scan/read issues. Turns out that a voltage notch of +30~40mV to the 3 chipset relative (PM_xxx) voltages fix that. For 101~102 at least. I didnt go far. You can try it if you wish...
IOMMU is a cool feature for hardware virtualization. Unfortunately most consumer gear doesn't support it do it's safe to turn off. Imagine you had one GPU that can present itself to the OS as multiple GPUs. This is where IOMMU would be needed but NVIDIA and AMD don't have consumer GPUs with this feature :(
Will you do a tutorial with this motherboard on overclocking the CPU? Or maybe somewhere on the network can find one like that? With a good overview of each function?
37:13 This is something different. Read the info at the Bottom and you will see why this is extremely usefull and the way you should go with overclocking.
@@fmontanari If you overclock this way, its like Overcklocking an Intel CPU with "Advantage Mode". C States will stay even with Overclocking. VCore will drop if the Clock gets lower and will not be fixed anymore.
I gained a lot of memory stability from lowering my stupidly high msi vddp and vddg voltages from 1.15V to 950mV and 900mV. whyyyyy does msi think that is okay?
My Gigabyte board set vddg to 1.05 V automatically, and for the longest time I couldn't stabilize at 1900 FCLK because I assumed I should be trying higher voltages. Turns out lower voltages were the real key.
you must do a complete oc if it works better than pbo, and a complete memory OC tutorial on this beauty please!! and what would u recommend best if watercooled, for long period of cpu and gpu renderings (hours or days),, to overclock or let the chip do its thing?!
I have the Gigabyte Aurus x570 pro rev1 there's two indicators in aida64 one is the Chipset that shows normal temperatures 52-56 and the other indicator is the PCH diode that shows crazy temps 64-70 on idle. I have good aircooling in my case but it's still hot. Can you explain me what pch diode is that ?
Using my B550i aorus pro AX with 5600x, updating the bios to the newest F15 because it is listed as IMPORTANT update. Flashing went well but when i tried applying my usual PBO2 settings with curve optimizer, there's no option to change Max CPU Boost Clock Override? Can't find it anywhere in BIOS so I'm pretty certain Gigabyte deleted it.
Hey buildzoid I want your opinion on this overclock: I managed to overclock my ryzen 7 2700x to 4.2ghz with pstate overclocking by changing P0 state and i found my system working with these settings : ( aorus elite wifi x570 motherboard with F11 bios ) 1. 4.2ghz LLc auto VID 1.4125 (1.331v under full load 1.405 on idle as shown in Hwinfo64 using 35w on idle and 165w on full load) 2. 4.2ghz LLc turbo (still have extreme and ultra extreme) VID 1.356 (1.331v under full load and 1.368v spikes at idle as shown in Hwinfo64 using less than 30w on idle and 176w on full load) CPU is cooled by ML240L max ctdl temp under full load is 82.6c which is the highest with 176w used (about 28c ambient temp) So which one would you prefer ? For daily usage i mean (6 hours per day usually)
Nice video mate.. Just bough this 2 days ago with 3700x but i m. Getting 50% idle temps.. I dont know how and its using stock cooler wraith prism.. Everything is set to default in mobo and i updated my mobo to f7b bios which is the latest one.. But why i am getting 50% degrees on idles.. Is something wrong with my mobo or procy. How can i fix it.. Should i re apply thermal paste.. I saw ur idle temp which is sitting on 26% and i am just curious why i am getting high.. Plz help me... And also my ram is gskill trident z neo 3600 mhz
I am using RYZEn 7 with Gigabyte X70 UD motherboard. I did set the virtualization (SVM)option in BIOS, but after every restart of the system the VT option gets disabled. Its really annoying. Is there any option to set it permanently?
cant seem to find bgs and bgs alt , vddg ccd, vddg iod, cldo vddp. I love gigabyte products but tbh having used msi x470 i think msi has a smarter layout and easier to find the specific OC stuff
They certainly do a nice job at MSI Look for the options in the AMD CBS menu under the NBIO submenu (then XFR Enhancement) and the one above it... UMC, I think
I own the Gigabyte Aorus Extreme MB and spent 1600 on GSkill memory from Newegg that does not work on the MB. Ive contacted Gigabyte and Gskill. Gigabyte said that they do not have a bios for this memory at this time. So frustrated!!!!!!!! Buyer beware they all lie! Why do all the manufacturing companies tout 128GB memory when they arent supporting it out of the box
29:00 is the UCLK DIV1 MODE = MEMCLK/ MEMCLK/2 similar to what the new 11th gen intel is doing with gear 1 and gear 2? why do some settings not change when you do a clear cmos. that seems really bad. isnt that the point of clear cmos? AMD overclock bad. wow that is going to cost someone a motherboard. thanks for the heads up.
Onboard button light turns off the light for the internal power button, and debug port LED blanks the error codes and debug LEDs after POST (on the X570 Master at least)
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ErP is basically "don't use power when off". It usually translates to having USB unpowered when off, and often having LAN unpowered when off (= no WOL).
The name comes from a European regulation that requests electronics to not waste power when plugged but unused.
This. I was coming back to comment on it, as with my PC, I need to ENABLE it because one of my USB or LAN devices (n ot sure which one is casuing it) likes to power my PC on after I do a full shut down. I'll come back to my pc hours after I did a full shutdown, only to see that it's been powered on for several hours and sitting at the login screen because one of my devices is kicking it on.
The AMD overclocking menu in the BIOS is for the Ryzen Master software. That way Ryzen Master (AMD software overclock utility) has a default place on all boards to look for and control those setting, rather than be programmed for 300 different BIOS layouts.
just got my Aorus board so this was super helpful before i started building my rig. Thank you!!!
*-buys X570 Aorus Elite*
36:43 *-AMD Overclocking menu* "I see you also like to live dangerously!"
dude. same. thanks.
buildzoid videos are finally relevant to me.
"BIOS walkthrough", is this some sort of new RPG Genre ? :)
"Here be dragons"
40:18 yeah that's a dungeon
Really useful video. Motherboard manufacturers really need to up their game and provide full documentation for their BIOS. Not just what options are but what they do and the implications of changing them. It's not like Gigabyte don't already have this information!
These videos are the most helpful ones on your channel hands down
SVM is indeed required for virtualization. If you are on Windows for example and you want to enable Hyper-V to run some virtualized operating systems, you'll need to enable it. Similarly if you want to run Docker on Windows it will tell you to enable virtualization, which will require this setting to be enabled.
"you can just use a keyboard like a civilized person instead of trying to use the mouse like an ape" 🤣🤣🤣
Sir, your timing is spot on!
Just took my X570 Master out of the box :P
Thanks for going over all the details of the Gigabyte MB. I am still not comfortable overclocking, but you definitely helped to de-mystify the process. I am getting a 3700X with a Gigabyte Elite and I am mostly concerned with how to set up XMP for the RAM. I am moving up from a AMD 8350 and Gigabyte Dual Bios GA990FX. I am hoping to see a significant performance boost.
Thanks for this Video Buildzoid! Appreciate it, my Gigabyte x570 Xtreme is coming in 1-2 weeks time and this video is extremely helpful !
I thank you greatly for explaining what all these things do in the BIOS ! 🤓
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Buildzoid: Bios and Dragons!
Don't listen to the haters. I really appreciate the video as I have spent a lot of time looking for some kind of guide for Aorus bios.
Especially since I was setting all my parameters in the overclocking menu, this probably saved me a lot of tears and money.
Keep up the good work 💪
This is me watching this video for the 5th time , thank you for making this video , this video has helped me alot.
02:25 SVM needs to be enabled if you want to run a virtual machine or any android emulator.
37:14 you can find your stable cpu vcore for your manual OC with the setting in the tweaker tab and once you found it, enter it in the amd overclocking tab instead, to preserve low power states for a lower power consumption. also, entering any cpu frequency and cpu vcore voltage in the amd OC menu automatically maxes out your power limits which you'd otherwise have to do manually.
also, the AMD Overlocking menu not resetting when you clear cmos might not be present on every mainboard. I'm pretty sure it resets properly on my Asus C6H. But in any case, any mainboard that has a flash bios button can't really be bricked anyway (as flashing via the button always deletes the whole bios first).
My x570 aorus itx board would like to disagree with your last statement
@@tarfeef_4268 by "not present on every mainboard" I mean every mainboard from every manufacturer. It might still very much be an issue with every gigabyte mainboard.
The menu doesn't reset properly on my X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wifi when I clear CMOS. However if I load optimized defaults it does. I've had other issues though where the board will just stop respecting certain values I give it, e.g. no matter what Vcore SOC I wanted it to run at it was stuck at 1.1 volts. I was only able to fix that by reflashing the BIOS.
@@LextraGaming I was referring to your claim that bios flashing would fix it. It does not. I had to RMA my board because it failed to boot and failed to reset, and flashing via usb didn't work.
@@tarfeef_4268 oh ok. fair enough
@Buildzoid
I can help with the SVM mode to some extend, as I understand it SVM is a system which allows the software to share addresses with the hardware, allowing software to get access to pieces of hardware. For example, you would have to enable SVM to use PCIe-passthrough. What is PCIe-passthrough? Basically you can assign a graphics card to a virtual machine instead of the host sytsem (for example assigning it to Windows in a VM when Linux is the host). Enabling SVM is one of the steps which you need to take to have the graphics cards to have its own IOMMU-group, IOMMU is a system to address one specific piece of hardware. If you have two graphics cards (or one graphics card and integrated/onboard graphics) then you could assign one graphics card to the host and one to the VM, allowing a Linux user to use Windows only in a VM and get native-level performance, of course with the caveat that you need to sacrifice one CPU-core and 0.5-1 GB of RAM for Linux. Most people here will think about gaming but there are many more serious use-cases for which you would like that. For example, you might be a developer and prefer Linux but have to use Windows for that one program and you want to run both parallel instead of dual booting all the time. Or you have to use Linux only software (I have been told that for certain fields there is Linux-only software which they need to use or Linux simply has better software) but you also want to run some Windows software, you need to run both OS's parallel. SVM allows for that without sacrificing performance. A VM without a graphics card is kind of miserable.
Why is SVM not on by default? I don't know. If anyone who reads this does know it, please let me know.
Indeed it's odd that it's off by default. Infact every consumer board i've touched has had virtualization off by default. I don't think there are any adverse effects from having it enabled if the user does not use virtualization, so it must be design choice.
@@Raivo_K
I am not a specialist at it (I do use VM's a bit but that is all) but I only read that it would increase security for VM's when you enable SVM.
I know this is old , and as someone that does use SVM/AMD-V and find it a pain that the default is disabled, I also have a theory as to why it is disabled (and agree with the reasoning). A while back there was a proof of concept rootkit (bluepill) that leveraged SVM (and Intel's VTx, same thing basically), so I believe they disable it out of an abundance of caution since most people will never need it. I don't believe said rootkit has ever been seen in the wild, so if you do use SVM it's not something to worry about, but if every single system had it enabled by default it would create a much larger pool of potentially vulnerable machines and make attempting to deploy it by a malicious actor much more tempting. In the end, disabling it affects very few people, and those of us that use it know to enable it. You also don't need to sacrifice cores or memory with more modern virtual machines, both systems share the resources (I have multiple virtual machines that have access to a significant chunk of my ram and half my cores with and there is basically no noticeable impact to my host OS when they are idle). Also, as a correction, SVM is an instruction set that allows higher privileged access to the CPU, bypassing old methods that used software virtualization methods instead of hardware instructions, it provides a huge speedup to virtual machines even if you don't assign physical hardware to it.
@@Cha0sWaffle I don't know if this specific rootkit is the reason why they disabled it but for sure it has to do with security. For my university class I had to use VM's which required the user to enable it.
Great video, Buildzoid! Thank you! I get my X570 Aorus Master today. This video has me looking forward to getting in the BIOS and messing with settings. I've been an Asus fanboy for literally decades and this is my first mobo from another board. Long story short, Asus finally p!ss#d me off to the point I even contacted support after 20+ years of using their products personally and in client's builds. In Asus' defense, they are RMAing my Strix X470-F, but I needed a mobo to keep my own rig up and running. I was looking at new boards anyway and bought the X570 Master over the Hero VIII.
This cleared up soooo much for me! Thanks! I almost bricked a BIOS on my X570 Master, using AMD Overclocking Menu. I didn't realise those settings would stick even through a clear CMOS. By sheer dumb luck, I "only" had issues booting in Windows, so I was able to flash a new bios...
Oh, and apparently I am an Ape XD Yay for mouse in BIOS!
SVM and IOMMU are for using virtual machines. They are very important for Hyper-V, Virtualbox and Docker.
So don't hate on those settings.
Do you know why SVM is always disabled by default on every mainboard? I can't see how it would be negative in any way to have that feature enabled.
@@Ultravore It has to do with vulnerabilities that can be exploited once HW virtualization is enabled for unsuspecting users.
Thank you so so much for this video, It has been extremely helpful with my X570 Elite.
One addition to what Buildzoid said @ 39:09
He is correct that you could brick your motherboard but it is not for sure if it doesn't POST. I actually did try out 1933 MHz for the FCLK from the settings menu, it wouldn't POST but it recoverd. Later I tried a manual OC of the CPU which is not a multiple of 25 MHz and it wouldn't POST again but eventually after trying to clear the BIOS, removing the battery and hitting the Q-flash button (I tried it all) it would boot again. In short, it is risky to touch the settings menu in its current state but it is not an automatic brick. Obviously when I did those things there was no public warning about it yet. As Buildzoid says it: "touch the overclock part of the settings menu if your life isn't exciting enough". :p
PXE boot is network boot. You usually want that disabled because it adds to the motherboard initialization time
The AMD overclocking menu not reseting when you clear CMOS is that unique to the Gigabyte bios?
Used it aswell when I had not clue on elite and had no problems even with mistyped values
I have no idear how other brands handle it, but in my experience if you screw up the settings in that menu it tries to post like 6 times or so and then it resets ALL settings on the mainboard. Including the Fan management and so on.
So i am pretty sure it is save, if you don't consider loosing your settings a huge deal - which i wouldn't.
I set the Boost Overlock too high and basically after a few powercycles all my settings were gone and i started to set them, but go with a more conservative +75MHZ.
It's plenty safe and if you look at BIOS progression since this video was posted it's basically (and always had been) Gigabyte's menu wherein they expose the various features you'd otherwise access via the AMD CBS (Common BIOS Settings) menu which is an AMD requirement for mobos
Thank you, you helped me a lot! I come from a x99 Asus MB and things were much more simple there. I was just lost, now I know where I'm going :)
Thank you sir. Awsome video!
Thank you for this! Just got a 3700x paired with the x570 ITX Aorus Pro WiFi and still fiddling with BIOS and settings.
New pc finally arrived and this was a HUGE !! Thanks
Thank you for all the videos!
ErP is part of the eco-design policy. This is required to use the CE sign and says how much power a PSU can use when "off". It started with 0.5W and is now at 0.3W without WOL. :)
Eliot Rulez Thanks for the excellent informed response! 😊🤝🙏🏻👍
@@theegg-viator4707 welcome :)
( ACS primarily enables support for manual assignment of PCIe® graphics cards within logical containers called “IOMMU groups.” The hardware resources of an IOMMU group can then be dedicated to a virtual machine. ) So if you want to run linux with a virtual windows which has bare metal access to a deticated gpu over pci-vfio, this helps you. The Same goes with PCIe Ari Support, helps with SR-IOV
Love how he casually drops he's going to "tell" Gigabyte to change some stuff
looks and seems to feel ancient. I like very much.
Thank you for the video man. Aorus X570 elite here, but basically the same. I'm having freezes at idle, never gaming or stress testing ... I just found out the option for the PSU "typical current idle" lol fingers crossed xD
The PSU is great but it is from 2013 so...
That's one heck of an awesome video; fast, precise, to the point... really like it, thanks!! Sadly I can't double-like this video^^
SVM Mode: needed for Bare-Metal-Hypervisor and normal virtualization with 64bit VMs
XMP High Frequ.: fixed fabric(?) clock: L1=1600, L2=1700, L3=1800MHz
ErP: if I'm not mistaken, this is for a lower stand-by power, but will disable WoL
and the likes
IOMMU: hardware passthrough for Bare-Metal-Hypervisor
Security Options: should the Admin password be needed when entering the bios or on every system boot
LAN PXE option rom: enable/disable Boot-From-Lan and the "bios" from the NIC
You mentioned: "low current idle" and the need for a new PSU - what is really needed from the PSU for that to work? I mean, I usually don't upgrade the PSU if it's not defective (or I need a more W), so I'm still on my 'Coolermaster M850' from 2008...
Cheers!
Picked up v. 1.2 of the aorus master x570. Sweet board.
Onboard Debug LED turns off Q-Code and other status LEDs like the BIOS-LED once loaded into Windows. I find it quite useful because those BIOS-LEDs are really bright.
CPU_OPT fan setting is intended for a water pump, so it makes sense that it behaves differently to CPU_FAN.
Is the "dangerous AMD Overclocking menu" still a thing in later BIOS too?
I have a B550 Pro and was wondering if I should be careful attempting to use the Curve Optimiser located in that menu to lower my stock temps.
Man I needed this video yesterday XD Im sure I'll learn something I messed up now anyway
Interesting that I don’t understand many of the things there(not a hardware guy, just a software engineer) but the things he said that he doesn’t know, I actually knew all of them :)
SVM - short: virtualization support(think Intel VT-x/VT-d for AMD), don’t know why it’s disabled by default though...
IOMMU - MMU(memory management unit - maps the virtual memory address[think: OS abstraction] to the actual physical address[L1/L2/L3/RAM]) + I/O(input/output - your keyboard, display, mouse, etc...). So, it’s the “MMU for I/O devices”, it allows your “virtual devices” to be accessed directly from the virtualized system, ex: Linux host shares Nvidia card with the virtualized Windows, to be able to play games without the overhead of a virtualized I/O device - through IOMMU, Windows can now access the I/O device directly, without the overhead(the host[Linux] loses access to it though).
L1/L2 prefetcher - your memory controller can see patterns of memory access(ex: continuously reading every 3rd element of an array) and predict based on that, what is the next address you will request from the RAM, so it will start pulling data from RAM even before you requested it, thus, when you get to it, it will be waiting for you in L1 cache. This trick/feature is critical for system performance, especially for things like games. Most of the time, the CPU waits for memory reads, it’s the slowest thing(On Bulldozer CPU: reading from RAM, on average, is about 100 times slower than reading from L1).
A limitation of the less expensive Aorus motherboards is that you can only set the RAM-voltage with steps of 0.001V, not with 0.0005V. I am curious if this is an artificial lock (the circuitry can do it but Gigabyte doesn't allow it because of market-segmenting) or because the circuitry of those motherboards can't handle steps of 0.0005V. In general my biggest problem with Gigabyte X570 at the moment is that the POST-times are around 3 times as long (around 15 seconds) as for a low-power laptop with a Coffee Lake CPU (5 seconds). I hope that Gigabyte will fix that, otherwise it is the first and last time that I bought anything from Gigabyte.
The 15 seconds fixed boot time affects every X570 board from what i've seen. I guess we will see if next months AGESA update addresses this or not. My money is on problably not.
Personally i don't really care. I came from P67/2500K system that had double post (boots, shuts down, boots properly) which took even longer tho it was UEFI BIOS and i had CSM disabled.
Some people have reported sleep not working but i think that might be a PSU compatibility issee. I had the same problem on my P67 that i never got sleep to work until i bought a newer PSU last year. The only obvious bug currently affecting X570 Aorus line is the slow BIOS UI bug with CSM disabled. Use CTRL+F6 to switch from FHD to VGA resolution (temporary workaround).
Using Aorus Master and 3800X here. Very happy with my first GB board. Previously i had always used ASUS.
@@Raivo_K
"The 15 seconds fixed boot time affects every X570 board from what i've seen."
That is what I speculated but I hadn't read many experiences from others on this. However, I guarantee you that Gigabyte itself also introduces some weird bugs. I seems that both AMD and Gigabyte have a lot of work to do. I expect that eventually these things will get fixed but it would be nice if it would just work properly on day 1. I have no idea how far they will get with their next big updates but I would bet a lot of money on this improving things substantially but not being the last update which fixes problems on this platform. I would speculate that we see the results of a rushjob while both the motherboard companies (not accomodated anymore to deal with that many changes in architecture that fast) and AMD are understaffed to get this code fixed in a reasonable time. Possibly the PICe 4.0 and chipset-fan compliated it even more.
Three examples of issues on my Aorus Elite which seem to be Gigabyte its fault and not related to the AGESA..
- Leaving the BIOS is like Russian roulette. Even if your system boots 100% of the time while using your PC (which is the case for me), when you leave the BIOS there is a reasonably big chance that it will powercycle. For example, today I simply enabled two virtualization options (IOMMU and that abbreviation which Buildzoid didn't know) and I disabled wake on LAN for the Intel ehternet-card. Only I/O-related. Yet, the motherboard didn't start, even starting the powercycle was agonizing (it took 30-60 seconds before the fans started to ramp up).
- I always disable the USB-LED (I hate that light). When an OC-setting fails then immediately the USB-LED turns on again, but it powercycles three times (always 3 times) before it shows the Gigabyte-logo and when I enter the BIOS it says that the BIOS has been reset.
- When I OC the FCLK it will boot 20 times but then all of the sudden it doesn't or worse, it resets the memory to default without powercycling or notification. I had it happen, I verified that the memory was clocked at 3666 MT's, after rebooting (from Linux to Windows) it had reset the memory but there was no powercycling or whatever.
I'm sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience. I have not experienced any of those issues on Master. Granted it is a more expensive motherboard but that is no justification.
If you have not done so already it might be a good idea to let others and Gigabyte's rep (GBT-MatthewH) know about these problems in Overclock.net forum thread: www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1728360-gigabyte-x570-aorus-owners-thread.html
Hey Buildzoid. Thanks for the amazing Bios walkthrough.
On B550 with a 5950X I am only seeing OC settings via the “Dangerous” menu, and not through the AMD CBS settings.
Im wondering if this is different and there’s a good way to test whether these settings can / will clear on Ryzen 5000.
Mind you this is with the latest F11n Bios on an Aorus AX B550i itx motherboard
Platform Thermal throttle limit helps if you notice your Cooler is not enough for your CPU, so you can limit the heat to a certain level until you get a better one then leave it in Auto. Just a tip!
Hi ya buildzoid I don't know if you look at these things and I don't know load about this over clocking but I have been playing with memory for the last 24hrs seeing the different effects little changes make but what I was Gonna ask was I have a 3600 nothing special but I managed to stabilise my IF oc at 1900mhz using the soc I didn't change it much I went 1.1 to 1.125 and that went from crashes all the time to stable does the soc effect the IF or this just something weird or odd ?
I totally have been using danger oc I didn't see even in this video where u can safely change the IF I'll reply watch but I've been doing it in danger mode and I've fully locked it a few times it does sort it self if it does not post eventually
and yeah totally lost my profiles got to the end and I was chuckling cos I've cursed the bios save setting on the other chip lol
Hi I just bought this motherboard with a 3900k. I am new to overclocking and you said one shouldnt static overclock that cpu.
Do you have a video explaining why? Thanks. Great video.
It is basicly because your cpu clock will be fixed to the value that you put there and when idle it wouldn't drop, so for thermal and energetic reasons it doesn't make sense
Just FYI, the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro boards do have dual bios, and do not have a bios switch.
Wasn’t a big fan of the old design but really like the redesigned Gigabyte BIOS
41:46 Or you can put a sane limit, like 80~85ºC, so that your CPU DOES NOT melt when you're trying things out and you're somehow temp-constrained (e.g. ambient temp too high), or if you just want to be safe regardless.
Given the price point the board should come with this video on an USB stick.
What is the difference between "AUTO/AUTO" and "NORMAL/NORMAL" CPU VCORE settings?
I have the X570 I Aorus Pro Wifi ITX board and I'm happy that for something very similar to mine was presented for a change so I can learn without any caveats. I do have to say my board's BCLK is definitely not that high quality or advanced as this one, even though it costs a fortune, which is quite sad.
Disabling SMT for games actually hurts performance and stability in the majority of modern titles.
Some handy advice for the Aorus Elite I just got. Now I just need to master the trick of getting Fclk and memory OC on it. I don't know if it's good or bad that adjusting most settings for this turns out to be worthless. Edit: Got Fclk to 1900 thanks to this video.
5:48 XMP high frequency support is basically just a poorly labeled menu to let you select FCLK 1600, 1700, or 1800, I guess if for whatever reason the CPU doesn't automatically match it to your memory clock when you enable XMP.
Yep it's super pointless. I had to google it to find out what it does.
Hail the King
Gigabyte definitively should listening Buildzoid and try correct and update Bios interface.
Question: you said not to use the CPU overclocking settings in the “Settings” tab, but to instead use the Tweaker tab. But where am I meant to set the clock speed in the tweaker tab? Do I adjust the CPU clock ratio? You said there is no point in static overclocking, but I managed to hit 4.35GHz at 1.325v using Ryder Master. Sorry if this a stupid question, I am new to this.
27:20 Windows wouldn't wake up from standby with my overclocked RAM on the Aorus Elite until I disabled DRAM Power Down Enable. Seems to be a pretty common problem with it.
I have the same problem on Linux. Often it works, sometimes it doesn't. Usually either the mouse or the keyboard won't wake it up, sometimes both. Another weird issue: on the first boot (with a cleared BIOS) my Corsair Strafe Red doesn't work, for successive boots it is not a problem. Not only for the BIOS, also for GRUB (the first boot I can use my arrow keys but one press is considered as multiple inputs for whatever reason). It is not a big issue but it is annoying, I have a worthless rubber dome keyboard from Trust (don't buy, the pain gives off to whatever you put it on!).
Power down enable is a pointless setting anyway. It increases latency by about 5ns when enabled but only provides miniscule power savings when RAM is idle. My main complaint is that it's enabled by default for some reason. Ideally i would want all power saving settings in their own submenu like power down enable, ErP, WOL, dummy load etc.
Press F2 for Respect!
I have a Aorus X570 Pro and I was able to get rid of a mistake in the manual cpu overclocking section. I had input 4300 for a 3900x and of course it didn't work. So after literally an hour I input 0 and it stuck. I had input 0 a few times before with no luck but it did finally stick.
Okay so I was honestly skipping through this whole video few seconds at a time specifically looking for you to go over PCH fan controls. I watched this video looking for that one thing. I'm currently using the new X570 Asus Crosshair 8 Hero and one thing that annoys me is how frequently the tiny onboard fan ramps up and down. Asus currently does not have manual controls for that little fan in their latest BIOS (1201) and was told Gigabyte would and am considering switching over. Any advice on making this PCH fan more quiet or consistent RPM on Asus and/or Gigabyte?
My X570 Master doesn't have an issue clearing settings from the AMD Overclocking submenu. Clearing CMOS or restoring optimized defaults does the trick. I wonder if this is specific to the extreme or if you have a faulty board?
If you see your hard drives or SSDs as removable drives go to IO Ports then SATA Configuration and disable the Chipset SATA Port Hot Plug option otherwise you might remove a hard drive or SSD accidentally and then have to unplug and then plug your hard drive or SSD back in to get your system to recognize them again. I was wondering why my SSD was showing up as a removable device in the hidden task bar and Googled it and found out why.
There's another funny quirk with CBS - if you set the VDDP voltage to 0, it sets to 1.79V. Not sure if it's dangerous, my CPU seems to be fine atm despite such a "mishap". Also, if you enable any form of XMP, both VDDG and VDPP will be set to 1.05V and 1.1V on auto. Kinda disappointed the the Extreme lacks the external thermal sensors that we have on Gaming 7, it's actually good for RAM monitoring and fan control (to keep it below 50C)
I sure as hell wouldn't keep it there.
Hmm, I was hoping you would tell the difference between temperature interval 1 and 3 in Smart Fan? I can't find any accurate description of it. Is 1 a short interval, or is 3 the shortest interval?
I want to have the longest interval but even Google won't help me with that.
Logic would say 3 is the longest, but Gigabyte and logic......
The chipset fan ramping up is still pretty annoying on my x570 Aorus Elite, even on silent.
@major wow It's the time between measurements? (I'm not talking about the chipset fan, because you can't change that hysteresis manually).
@major wow I guess this question is just gonna be buried under alot of useless remarks and will never get answered, just like the Gigabyte forum...
major wow Thank you for the excellent response! 😊🙏🏻
Something weird which I noticed for XMP on my X570 Elite, which I am not pleased about. When I OC the FCLK to 1833 MHz, it will stick for 1-2 weeks but then all of the sudden it won't boot and after 3 times of powercycling it resets the memory to default settings (2133 MT/s and bad timings). So far it is just annoyinig but I also had it happen that it reset the memory without powercycling so I didn't know it until I was in the OS. As long as I don't OC the FCLK there is no problem, it sticks, as soon as I OC the FCLK the motherboard has this weird behavior. I might have bad luck with the IF on my CPU but then why does it boot 19 times in a row and not the 20th time, that seems a problem on the BIOS-level to me.
I was messing around with BCLK on a X570 Aorus Pro and a R5 3600. had SATA and some chipset sensor scan/read issues. Turns out that a voltage notch of +30~40mV to the 3 chipset relative (PM_xxx) voltages fix that. For 101~102 at least. I didnt go far. You can try it if you wish...
IOMMU is a cool feature for hardware virtualization. Unfortunately most consumer gear doesn't support it do it's safe to turn off. Imagine you had one GPU that can present itself to the OS as multiple GPUs. This is where IOMMU would be needed but NVIDIA and AMD don't have consumer GPUs with this feature :(
It drives me mad that gigabyte doesn’t have fan training/measuring in their fan control.
do you also have a BIOS walkthrough: Gigabyte X570S Master?
Will you do a tutorial with this motherboard on overclocking the CPU?
Or maybe somewhere on the network can find one like that? With a good overview of each function?
37:13 This is something different. Read the info at the Bottom and you will see why this is extremely usefull and the way you should go with overclocking.
Care to explain further?
@@fmontanari If you overclock this way, its like Overcklocking an Intel CPU with "Advantage Mode". C States will stay even with Overclocking. VCore will drop if the Clock gets lower and will not be fixed anymore.
My Elite board clears the AMD overclocking settings on bios reset
same with my Ultra board, wonder why Xtreme is different
My X470 Aorus Gaming 7 Wifi does not.
Same with my Master
Thanks, good to know...might try the simplest test on mine.
I like to make a request can you make an updated version of this video for the newer bios F32+.
This is awesome 👏
I gained a lot of memory stability from lowering my stupidly high msi vddp and vddg voltages from 1.15V to 950mV and 900mV. whyyyyy does msi think that is okay?
My Gigabyte board set vddg to 1.05 V automatically, and for the longest time I couldn't stabilize at 1900 FCLK because I assumed I should be trying higher voltages. Turns out lower voltages were the real key.
Best bios educational video. Thanks
do you know why there isnt a trefi setting? its quite powerfull on an intel platform
please do a oc guide with pbo2 and curve optimiser updated for 2021 on a gigabyte bios.
SVM must be turned on to use VMware Workstation on Ryzen
so how would we use the PBO overdrive for the new ZEN 3 cpus? I have a Gigabyte Aorus Master x570. I worry too about potentially bricking my mobo
wow, just bought this motherboard and this video was made 3 years ago haha
you must do a complete oc if it works better than pbo, and a complete memory OC tutorial on this beauty please!! and what would u recommend best if watercooled, for long period of cpu and gpu renderings (hours or days),, to overclock or let the chip do its thing?!
I have the Gigabyte Aurus x570 pro rev1 there's two indicators in aida64 one is the Chipset that shows normal temperatures 52-56 and the other indicator is the PCH diode that shows crazy temps 64-70 on idle. I have good aircooling in my case but it's still hot. Can you explain me what pch diode is that ?
For some reason my bios which is F4, doesn't detect any hard drives. Not even the fans are spinning. Any ideas? Motherboard is X570 Aorus Elite.
I really hope that Gigabyte will manage to fix, or better revist their entire bios, cause Asus is still so much better in this.
Using my B550i aorus pro AX with 5600x, updating the bios to the newest F15 because it is listed as IMPORTANT update. Flashing went well but when i tried applying my usual PBO2 settings with curve optimizer, there's no option to change Max CPU Boost Clock Override? Can't find it anywhere in BIOS so I'm pretty certain Gigabyte deleted it.
Hey buildzoid I want your opinion on this overclock:
I managed to overclock my ryzen 7 2700x to 4.2ghz with pstate overclocking by changing P0 state and i found my system working with these settings : ( aorus elite wifi x570 motherboard with F11 bios )
1. 4.2ghz LLc auto VID 1.4125 (1.331v under full load 1.405 on idle as shown in Hwinfo64 using 35w on idle and 165w on full load)
2. 4.2ghz LLc turbo (still have extreme and ultra extreme) VID 1.356 (1.331v under full load and 1.368v spikes at idle as shown in Hwinfo64 using less than 30w on idle and 176w on full load)
CPU is cooled by ML240L max ctdl temp under full load is 82.6c which is the highest with 176w used (about 28c ambient temp)
So which one would you prefer ? For daily usage i mean (6 hours per day usually)
If you have an Asus X570 TUF board can you do a BIOS walkthrough of that?
Nice video mate.. Just bough this 2 days ago with 3700x but i m. Getting 50% idle temps.. I dont know how and its using stock cooler wraith prism.. Everything is set to default in mobo and i updated my mobo to f7b bios which is the latest one.. But why i am getting 50% degrees on idles.. Is something wrong with my mobo or procy. How can i fix it.. Should i re apply thermal paste.. I saw ur idle temp which is sitting on 26% and i am just curious why i am getting high.. Plz help me... And also my ram is gskill trident z neo 3600 mhz
I am using RYZEn 7 with Gigabyte X70 UD motherboard. I did set the virtualization (SVM)option in BIOS, but after every restart of the system the VT option gets disabled. Its really annoying. Is there any option to set it permanently?
Can you please do a overclocking guide for i9 9900k with a z390 master. Thank you buildzoid.
Why is PBO in both AMD CBS and XFR Enhancement? They seem to be separate settings that is disabling one doesn't affect the other one.
cant seem to find bgs and bgs alt , vddg ccd, vddg iod, cldo vddp. I love gigabyte products but tbh having used msi x470 i think msi has a smarter layout and easier to find the specific OC stuff
They certainly do a nice job at MSI
Look for the options in the AMD CBS menu under the NBIO submenu (then XFR Enhancement) and the one above it... UMC, I think
@@timeDrapery i figured out the problem, it was not responding to manual voltage before f33 that im sure of on the aorus x570 master
Question. I have an ASrock 6900xt phantom gaming oc gpu. Can i put it in the second pcie slot of the xtreme without a drop in performance?
I own the Gigabyte Aorus Extreme MB and spent 1600 on GSkill memory from Newegg that does not work on the MB. Ive contacted Gigabyte and Gskill. Gigabyte said that they do not have a bios for this memory at this time.
So frustrated!!!!!!!! Buyer beware they all lie! Why do all the manufacturing companies tout 128GB memory when they arent supporting it out of the box
29:00 is the UCLK DIV1 MODE = MEMCLK/ MEMCLK/2 similar to what the new 11th gen intel is doing with gear 1 and gear 2? why do some settings not change when you do a clear cmos. that seems really bad. isnt that the point of clear cmos? AMD overclock bad. wow that is going to cost someone a motherboard. thanks for the heads up.
Onboard button light turns off the light for the internal power button, and debug port LED blanks the error codes and debug LEDs after POST (on the X570 Master at least)
There'a cool program for windows that displays the CPU temperature on the postcode LED: sigyn.dataghost.com/TempLCD/
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