We Discovered the SECRET to FINISHING our Warhammer Armies
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That Title is Fake News, nobody finishes painting an army
Sad but true
That's not true I'll finish mine ....
Eventually
I just play with unopened boxes and packs. The artwork on a lot of boxes is better than I can do. Sometimes I will put printed stickers over clear packaging if it needs to be painted for events.
Stillmania disagrees
That's not quite true. All of my armies have been briefly "done" many times. They just suddenly end up not being done again....
Scott casually becoming our therapist at the beginning. Thank you Scott for validating my thoughts when I couldn’t put it into words! I look forward to painting every single day but often it doesn’t happen due to my job and life and while all those things are highly positive and even necessary it’s not painting. So I feel bad for complaining and I know that the day I get together with my friends and play a game gets one day further and that makes me sad. I don’t know how to really navigate this but I feel that it’s good to I’m not alone in my struggle.
THESE ARMIES ARE RAD
Yes
Says the guy with the completely custom nurgle circus army
So are your converting skills and artistic vision 👍
So youre coming out to this nexk of the woods to hangout and kitbash with us?
I especially rate the style on the draconith? (dragon style mount)
So cool contrasted yet somehow tuned down style
The secret to painting a 2000 point army is to try and paint a 2500 one and fail!
aim high!
Big guy with the Stormcast is too hard on himself for sure. I hate looking at stormcast usually, but the thematic kitbashes he did actually makes them look cool. It is great that they are "too dark," it fits the lone mage wielding an army of animated dulluhan-like armors.
Thanks!
Between seeing the new big Dragon and this dulluahn stormcast I finally had to break down and get some stormcast myself. I love that idea so much.
@@Bloodrunner13 I eagerly await the new dragon arriving on my doorstep soon
@@MCXL1140I just got the dominion box set
It took me 15 years (started at 15) to get a fully painted Imperial Guard army for Warhammer 40k. Finished it this year.
I still believe it's a myth that people have fully painted armies.
It took me 6 years to finish my WHFB army, and as I was finishing the last unit, the game was canceled and AoS was announced. Frustration.
That's the 1st Regiment. What about the 2nd and 3rd Regiments?
@@FullMetalHamster666😂😅😢
There is a club. They all have their signature look of superiority about them. And by they, I mean We. Welcome aboard!
A deep dive into each unique army, their theme, story, conversion and stuff would be cool ! They all look really great !
Couldn't agree more - some of the conversion work on the Sigmar stuff was really really cool so I'd love to see how that was pulled off! Would also love to see these as a battle report if you do them again!
100% do this.
I know there’s algorithms or whatever for length but videos like this and one per army I could watch for a good 30 minutes or more each.
@@bearlykquite a few of the games from the league are up on the live stream vod channel, it's called Maniac's Backlog.
"My cat bit me so I couldn't paint my miniatures" has got to be the most Warhammery nerdy thing I've heard in a while and I am a nerd. Bravo, my boy.
I was like did it bite the finger off? 😅
Bro got a lion as a pet
For 2 months!! 😂😂😂 I'm so embarrassed for him
The easiest way to assemble and paint your army is never take them out of the packages. Just move the packages around.
Honestly? One of the most helpfull videos I watched the past couple years. I really struggle with painting at the moment due to mental health issues and loss of motivation in general. Hearing your guys storys and struggles along this journey, really helped me to realize that Im not alone with this and its totaly fine not to finish something and come back to it later. Will keep thinking about this for a while and hopefully it will change my mind, in relation towards only seeing failure when i dont finish stuff
This is great to see! Was a little nervous for y'all watching those early streams, and got the feeling the rules weren't groking for the group. Really happy to see everyone stick with it and some truly beautiful models came out of this.
This makes me feel so much better. I have only been painting a few years & not near as often as Id like. Late last year I started collecting & building a Slaves To Darkness army as the new box sets released. I had hoped to have them done in 5 months ( Was planning on playing my very first game for my bachelor party) ... My opponent bailed 2 months in. Told me he hadnt bought ( or printed) a single model. I lost all drive to paint after that and it all took the back burner as life just kinda smacked me around for a while. I was married in May, and still havent completed a single full UNIT in my army. Seeing that lots of other people have trouble with life taking over made me feel like less of a failure. Im hoping to get moving again on it very soon, and ill keep watching Miniac and TUP until my creative juices start flowing again. Thank you sincerely for all that you do, Miniac!
Didn't expect to hear about Warzone and Mutant Chronicles here. Oh, the memories... And now, I'm pumped to go and finish painting hordes of zombies.
JOHN! I have also been in the hobby since I was young, 12/13 starting, 26 now, and John was a big catalyst for my growth within this space. My LGS was the North American HQ for GW where I sat next to John and hobbied every Saturday. He showed me so many techniques including a great free hand on an Orc banner for my 8th edition Orcs and Goblins. Those were some of the best times I've had and I'm glad to see that spirit has moved on into AoS (myself included)! Great video!
Awesome! Good times. Glad to hear you're still painting stuff!
Great perspective on the "your hobbies should bring you joy" comment. I've given up playing certain video games that I once enjoyed for this very reason.
The Sandy Cities of Sigmar army is AWESOME! I love the quantity of conversions and old metal minis snuck in there. (I see you, Lorenzo Lupo)
Lorenzo was my whole inspiration for the army tbh! And a bunch of the consept is basically old world stuff reborn , soecifically DOW stuff (desert dogs for pistoliers riding wolves etc)
This was such a great journey of a video! "Failure is OK" is such a great thing to remember when painting an army/force (or even just a mini) and something I forget over and over.
that stormcast army looks sick I like how dark it is with the bright swords
i dig the new form of interview/documenting progress content
MATE those dragons with LED lights look SICK. He should be so proud of that
Nice video a lot to learn from. I also started dozens of armys never finished one.
This is a timely video. Struggling to make time to paint, but need to work on it. These tips are helping it not feel like such a chore. Thank you!
I loved the way this video was out together! I like the different takes and approaches not only to painting but to gaming in general.
Amazing, nothing better than a fully painted army, a really rare thing, but a beautiful thing to behold…………..another great vid
I love videos like this. They are so genuine and highlight both having a community of like-minded people and how different folks' motivations and passions can be different within that.
Gotta say the headless stormcasts is genius, especially as a fan of Living Armour stuff it improves them a lot for me.
If I where to do it I’d probably add a bunch of weapons and items following them and some spirits. But that’s me. Great work all around.
I was wondering if the heads were off because he wasnt done painting honestly lol, headless is cool though he could add some smoke or glow effect to the sockets where they'd be to show it off even more
Great looking armies. Having a small group of friends that are in the grind with you and upcoming games on the calendar is such a great way to keep the fires burning and get that project done.
The production quality of this video is next level.
I would love to see you all doing like Mordheim in the same way, but as it requires less minis, to every single of you, go as hard as they can for your team and still have 6 months
Half my weird characters for my army were originally mordheim ideas 😂
The Calvinball reference killed me. What a succinct way to describe AoS and 40k. "Your army does what now?!"
One trick that always do (not for the faint hearted) is give myself a deadline and a consequence if i dont make it (usually i have to give away everything if its not finished in time) a key part of the challenge is making it public, so i cant just back out of it if i dont win. I've never missed a dealine while using this method, lol. I find that whenever im sitting in bed or lounging around my mind immediately goes to "i should be painting right now" and i go and paint
Nice to see Alex enjoying himself.
Hey Miniac, continuing on Alex train it would be great if we could get a longer video with him discussing Aos system. Given his background with both x-wing and onslaught.Thanks.
I want to see more stuff with Alex!
Been a huge Alex Davy fan since I played X-Wing!!!! Star Wars Legion is my favorite game and it’s because of him!
You’re back!!!
What I mean this feels like a return to form in a way. I always enjoy the videos that feel like you’re sharing your personal hobby journey in a super relatable way. This is you and your buds and a small part of, another part of the journey.
The edit makes it feel like skate boarding video, like I could watch this to get pumped up to start an army or a campaign. You come off as relatable and a bit of a pro. The Joe Robinet of mini painting. Bloody loves it.
Love seeing shots of the armies. Especially liked the Nurgle one. The smoke machine effects where a little overdone sometimes, obscuring the shots of great looking armies.
Thanks! It was one of my favorite army projects ever.
It is not often I comments on videos but I need to say that this was a great video format. Love to meet your friends like this and have an interview style that is just the answers!
The chair is in a video, woop woop!
3:47 I needed to hear this
How many painted minis does a true hobbyist need. Just one more.
I participated in an escalation league once. After an accident i suffered from second and third degree burns on my hands and had to drop out midway through. It was heartbreaking especially since this hobby helped me through some rough patches.
I finished the army some time later and hated it. Gameplay wise but models and color scheme aswell. Haven't figured out if it was because of the memories it was connected to or if i just grew out of T'au.
However the experience i gained from finishing my largest army yet is something im still grateful for. I learned so much about layering. Painting white was a pain in the ass but now i'm solid at it. Same goes for painting lenses and jewelry.
All in all i'm glad i had tried to step up to the challenge. Failing is completely fine. There's always something to take away from a project. Even if it's only about what you didn't like.
Amazing to hear your experiences and how youve processed them!
@@danielmalson9652 Thank you very much. This whole situation was pretty exhausting most of the time ngl. But i'm much more satisfied with my work today and i have never been more productive in this hobby. My current goal is to paint every every single type of goblin mini this world has to offer.
@@Fritz_Foyer i love that goblin goal
a fully painted army is a thing of joy. I'm rather glad to say i've been getting the pile of shame worked down over time.
That surprisingly uplofting sentiment was very nice
What helps me to get an army project done, is a tournament. I alwa s set the goal to bring a fully and good painted army to an event. And thats helps a lot
Amazing paint jobs and advice all around from everyone !
WORD to the flanel guy on the highlights - that is the thing I always underestimate painting models. You always look at them close up. Thinking about painting models for looking at them 6 feet away totally changes your perspective
Love to see the channel branching out and trying new things. Keeps me inspired to Paint. More. Minis!
My tips on how I finish my army (I have around 4k painted for Seraphon).
1. I agree that models look better in a group. Tip: You can put in extra effort with unit captains.
2. When starting a new unit, paint one model to completion first THEN paint the rest. It helps you define the process of how to paint the rest. And now you got a reference!
3. It's OK if you change up something part way through. Maybe the cloaks are going from green to red? Who cares! Don't worry about stripping models, just move forward and keep painting
4. Discipline vs motivation. Motivation is an emotion that is nice, but discipline is doing something consistently. Paint consistently.
5. Dont' take on too many projects at once! This is a part of discipline.
If one unit has different color capes than another, that's fine. That can just be a thing in the army: different units might have a thing that makes them distinct from one another. It makes the army seem more dynamic, and makes it easier to tell them apart at a distance.
I'm a big fan of John Shaffer's work from a few epochs ago in White Dwarf. I briefly saw him at the old Baltimore Battle Bunker but was too nervous and shy to say hey. I'm glad to see he's still cracking out awesome armies
John's one of the most gracious guys I've met If you see him at a adepticon or at a game store you should definitely say hi.
Hey! Those days in Baltimore were great. I hope you're still having fun with toy soldiers!
So cool to see Alex Davy on here! So many great creations that brought me into wargaming went directly through his hands. So much respect!
Congrats to all of you guys, it takes a lot of time and work. One of my greatest hobby achievement is finishing my 2k points of Sisters of Battle. Such a beautiful army and finishing them was really something special ❤
Alex Davy playing Sigmar is so cool
I actually did an escalation league with my brother in Bolt Action. We started off with one half of the starter box each, and then added 250 points of models next time we'd play. I am currently finishing up my 1000 points which is the standard for bolt action. I think I painted my models way a too cleanly, like they just got off boot camp without a speck of dirt on their uniform. But it might make for fun visual storytelling to dirty them up a bit between games. So in the end, it might have been a store of un-luck!
All hail Chronopia! Was so much fun back in the day.
Loved to see Evan's take on Stormcast! The Ghamak print also looked great and fit in well with the official models.
Holy Crap! Alex Davy! Thank you for your creation of Star Wars: Legion! We will be forever greatful!
Easily the best miniatures game system out there!
Aw, you're both too kind! Glad you're enjoying the game. :D
Yeah, I have to admit that the main reason I watched this video was to hear Alex talk :)
Talk about an awesome group of people to have a league with!
Great job painting up those armies, they look great!
A thought about army painting: I wonder if you could develop an iterative/agile paint method. Like first pass, get to 3 colour minimum, next pass add some shading and highlight, next pass do details, etc, until you reach the quality level you want, but with a decent playable army the whole time.
Obviously, you could just do what I outlined above, but as you show in your painting videos, the specifics of what techniques you apply in what order makes a big difference in quality and efficiency. It would be interesting if you could find a method where each pass truly builds on the last one, without too much duplicated effort. Sounds like a Miniac R&D project to me!
My secret is to register for a GT with painting requirements, so I don't have the choice even if that usually involves finishing the day before.
Nothing better than a bit of healthy last minutes stress/motivation :)
This is freaking neat! We are doing something similar with some friends with Battletech! Looking to do the same with AOS / W40K
As always, Amazing vid papa! The quality of the shoots and editing 10/10
since the beginning of the year ive been painting again, mainly focusing on my aos orks and 40k nids and some smaller projects i started before. im not the fastest painter and i switch between a lot of projects from my pile of opportunity, i have about 1500 points of kruleboyz painted now ^^
i still have a lot of points of orks to assemble and paint but it's been fun so far, ive also been playing weekly playing different amount of points in aos. i would love they would have different balance for points as i have been enjoying playing smaller scale as well. and while the game is def not perfect i'm having a great time with it. every army has such fun mechanics, rules, models and playstyles. i still gotta put more effort into getting peeps to play some warcry as i really love warcry
This is my new favorite Miniac video, and that's a high bar!
I saw Miniac and his wife walking their dogs in my neighborhood last night.
Miniac was wearing a Miniac hoodie.
Earlier in the day, Dan wildly cut my walking path off as he entered the Source parking lot in a Ford Focus. Focus on pedestrians, buddy!
My wife was wearing the hoodie! Fake news! Great to see ya in the wild :)
@@Miniac Sorry, was so dumbstruck sitting there. A weird confluence of events led to me being at that spot. I was supposed to leave 15 minutes earilier.
I told my 7yo daughter and she started doing the "Paint More Mini's" growl again.
Ope my bad 😅
With army painting:
1. You have enough units, so don't decision lock. Having troops means you have models you don't have to care about. Try something. At worst, it remains a distinguishable unit vs other, but you can always repaint it. (recommend trying others 1st)
2. 3 color rule: models usually look worse until you get a 3rd color. For playing, the 1st goal is to get to 3 colors as fast as possible, so your units stand out at yours from a table glance level. To speed that up, think of this as base coating and you only need colors distributed on the models, not painting every tiny section that will eventually be that color.
3. mount up batches to speed that process.
4. *optional* an airbrush will significantly speed up my most hated part: base coating.
5. bounce between the parts you most enjoy and parts that more just need done. I'm not going to sit down and spent 2hr base coating. That's a recipe to avoid painting. But I will spend 15min base coating, then they need time to dry anyway. Or 15min quickly slapping some metal down on a regiment, so they aren't just black. Or 15min adding an accent color so they actually seem cohesive.
Personally, I love the super time consuming customizing for special units, but found I actually dread this for regular units.
For that super cool sergeant, I'll saw off an arm and attach something else, make custom doodads for his base, etc.
But doing that for 30 identical units becomes a slog. Instead I'll just choose several quick variants for those to distinguish particular units: 1 have 2 primary accent colors, so flip which is primary, or swap what area on the models is primary vs secondary color. That simple change just make 4 variations that still unify with the rest of the army, but also quickly differentiate my own troops from each other.
Another tip is consider making the just above regular, but not that special units just have way more of your accent color. For dark elves, I put colored inks on top of bright true-metal to make a cool anodized look. Each troop leader is likely to get a double dose of that anodize to show that they have earned some distinction/right to wear more.
Hey, i remember the old Reddit "Trial of the Warlords" - I loved those! I did complete it with Tyranids :)
The armies look amazing. I have finished a few armies over the years but theres only 2 i am truly proud of. Having a finished army youre proud of is a uniquely amazing experience and it feels really good when it all comes together.
It's inspiring to see everyone's finished work and loved hearing about the escalation experience! I just joined a Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game group and am painting and learning to play a Minas Tirith army, and having a great time - I think that process is one of the most fun things in the hobby.
I went right from my cities army into a gondor/faramir Legendary legion! Would love to see your army!
I absolutely love that the one guy referenced Calvinball!
I like how the stormcast player baldly declares SC are the best army in AoS, he is a true sc player indeed
I got into tabetop gaming with Age of Sigmar, around 7 years ago, with the original 2 player starter set. I painted the box, but I haven't finished painting the full armies and I have all the Stormcast and Khorne minis released since... AoS is still my favorite game. I've also gotten into 40k and Warcry from Games Workshop and other games like Warmachine, Deadzone and Frostgarve, among many others.
Beautiful armies, great insights into your league. A+ video.
More content like this. Was a really good watch. The talk and the visuals.
Started an army in august and about 2 units and 2 characters away from 1000 pts. Should be there next month. After that I’ll crush another thousand. The secret is not being lazy
I've yet to finish an army...every time I got close or thought about it I got anxious and overwhelmed. My ADHD doesn't help but at least I have a lot of cool smaller projects. I do have around 1000pts of Ork kitbahses tho!
As someone with hobby adhd ive been converting these cities models for like 5 years, so the league helped motivate me to get all of those things painted and set a solid goal!
I really enjoyed this video for some reason, felt super wholesome
The old, "My cat bit me and I can't paint my army" excuse! Hahaha. Great video!
Well my dog doesn't eat minis so I had to come up with something.
I actually almost lost my thumb according to the physician. They were very worried about an infection inside my knuckle.
@@MCXL1140 Oh wow, that is scary. I'm glad you didn't loose your thumb.
@@The_WarL0rd_Wayso am I!
Loved the coverage Miniac! Many of the usual problems still occuring, campaing burn out, army imbalance etc, but glad you and friends made it and enjoyed it!
Very much enjoyed watching this video, well done Scott. Would love to see more still photos of the armies.
Oh hell yeah. Nothing beats waking up at 11am to get some Miniac in.
Thank you Scott hope you get all the success in life that you deserve and more. A leader in the miniature space
I really appreciated the honest take of AOS.
LONG LIVE THE CHAIR!!!!!!
So cool to see all these painted armies! Especially the vampires and dragons. Very encouraging to complete my Stormcast army.
Damn Scott, this video was super good. Loved the slightly slower pace and down to earthness of everyone ❤
I really liked this video. It was probably hard to make this video but having the different perspectives and their armies was really a treat. More of this format would be great sometime.
ALEX DAVY?? Dude no fucking way what a cool dude. Scott, keep up the great work man, your vids just get better and better
Cheers Scott, this was superhelpful
Congrats Malev!
but like... the double turn thing... you have an equal chance of it... and you got to go first if you're on the recieving end... I don't understand all the complaints about htat... it's one of the few things i like about aos XD
The double turn is the best thing about AoS.
Just because there's an equal chance of it (there isn't, ties go to the person who didn't activate last) doesn't mean that it's a desirable thing. I don't like it when I am on the receiving end or when I'm the one it benefits. It's a feelsbad moment for everyone. It's a very important moment in an AoS game and it relies on literally 1 die being rolled by each person and nothing impacts the actual number you roll. Your battle plan is reliant on a ~45/55 split where outcome A and B are incredibly different scenarios.
Whether or not you like this mechanic comes down to how you enjoy war games. If you like huge, swingy moments with lots of drama and excitement, you'll like the double turn. That's not exactly what I'm looking for in my games all the time. Obviously if a game comes down to a dice roll after a competitive back and forth, that's fun and cool, but when it's forced every single turn, that is less fun for me and more just chaos.
@@Miniac I can respect this take.
Like I said I don’t play AoS anymore but the double turn was my favorite part.
2nd edition added way too many rules for our group and we kinda hated it.
@@MiniacI know Vince has probably told you before but here are many small decisions that influence the impact of those "one roll feelsbads" like a failed charge or a crucial priority roll. If it's a game winning feels bad usually you made a bunch of mistakes to make your plan rely so heavily on a single roll.
@@thesoothsayer9223The thing is, you're forgetting the fact that you might be your opponent winning a single role that then puts them in the position to just drive the game into the ground for you. They can take a big enough risk to get a big enough reward in AOS to spike the whole game. And if the roll goes well for them, it's game over.
Is that a fundamentally sound competitive strategy? No. Does it feel good to be on the receiving end of something like that? Also, no.
Great format for a mini video!
Who is going to tell him he forgot to put heads on his stormcast?
👀
With the dark scheme and the orange OSL it looked like an army of headless horseman.
Everyone locally did for weeks lol
Beautiful armies - those Vampire Counts (Soulblight) you painted are gorgeous, particularly the Crypt Guard guys - they look like Blood Dragons on foot with that scheme!
Those vampires look great, I keep looking at undead factions and wanting to paint an army.
Fantastic paint jobs! Fantastic advice! Fantastic video all around.
I’m waiting for one of these videos to start with: “Hi, I’m Scott the Miniature Maniac, and this is Jackass.”
PAINT MOAR MINAYZ!!! 🤘😈🤘
You had me at "failure is ok".
Playing warcry at the beginning before having enough points to play aos ?
This means more rules to learn tho
Loved the Calvinball reference!
Nice collection of minis and ideas.
It’s good to see you get your army together.
Absolutely awesome video! Gets me inspired to continue with my 40k army.
Good to see Xwing rules writer Alex Davey again!