When my local club did a testing day a few weeks back, I tried both these drivers. All my clubs are Taylormade and I was biased as I approached the tee. After hitting the Mavrik, it changed my mind. Being able to test both clubs at the same time is essential. The Mavrik felt like I was hitting with butter. Such a soft feel. Loved it
Would’ve been interesting to see 6 swings with Mark’s own G410 Plus driver to compare to these new models James. I know it’s fitted to him, and the SIM & Mavrik weren’t, but would still like to see how it compared. Cheers
Mid/high handicap went for a driver fitting and compared multiple drivers , shafts , set ups. mavrik was by far the best for me, James really appreciate the videos and content, I watch daily and comment usually on every video, my only complaint is it does seem like you favour Taylormade a bit, nothing wrong with that but it does sometimes feel a slight bias. Anyway . Blast away... regardless of my opinion I really enjoy your content. Thanks
Mark, James I think that sound wise they both had a great sounding ( crack ) with the Mavrik being just a tad louder ( crack ), to my ears either or both had the sound I like.
Neither of these two for me wanted to game one of these but didn't get on with any of them when i tried them. Distance and direction was at best average so ended up trying ping g410 plus and cobra speedzone. Really found my best friend with the cobra speedzone what a driver at a bargain price and i couldn't believe the results it gave me. Came away with solid distance dispersion was iron like and arrow straight with my cobra sz 9* with atmos blue 6r shaft. Even put the 3 wood in the bag too cobra rocks for me
Because of the weather, I've been getting an extremely comprehensive fitting that's taken over 2 months. Going into the last session it's still between the SIM, TS2, and ST200. The SIM is ugly as hell and sounds like I'm hitting a cardboard wall, but the feel of the face and numbers just don't lie. An absolute ridiculously great club.
Bought the Mavrik last week and really like it but think I need to do some adjustments to reduce slice that I experienced over the weekend.. But great sound and has a lot of pop to it.
I've never been a big Taylormade fan, but the consistency of shots with the SIM Max would get my vote. Mark commented that the SIM felt heavier...that might be a good thing. Mark might try one of their other shaft offerings like the Evenflow Riptide CB. The counter balance might give him the feel of the Callaway.
James, I know I keep on saying this, but it is so difficult to watch Mark hit on the right or center of your screen and the ball start offline to the left dramatically. I have seen you hit balls 3 feet to the right of center and it will start on screen to the left (pull hook). I know you have replied back to me that it is the screen angle, but I have not seen this with any other youtube club reviews. Great review though no matter what. Enjoyed it!
@@mattsmith-bl2bg Not my point at all. Its what us viewers and possible the golfer hitting into the screen is seeing. Take a second and look at the shots into the screen and then watch where the ball actually starts showing. It's just weird to me. I am not saying that the electronics are wrong per se, it just looks extremely weird to me (maybe others). If Mark or James or whomever is hitting into the screen and the ball hits the screen 3ft to the right of the center line on the screen, the ball should start to the right of the center line. It might hook or whatever after due to face angle, etc. but it will start to the right no matter what.
Idk if maybe I missed the video but I’d be interested in a video of you giving mark a lesson. Just like the cameras aren’t there and you two having a lesson
james isn't a good teacher, he has taken marks handicap up! since giving him lessons..when they play together on the course, mark is making so many swing errors, but james never puts him right...James is having lessons himself actually....look at Dan Hendriksen for lessons
Something tells me that the Epic Flash 9 degree with the slide weight on the draw setting would help his accuracy and perhaps reduce some spin, he is using a fade which maybe he would do better to hit a more neutral ball and even kick up to 10 degrees, test that and see JRG..
Awesome video gents. I am a mid handicapper and I have a lot of spin so this review is perfect for me. I am gonna try both. and since I'm in so cal I can play in 70-80 degree weather.. :)
Great vid as always james and Mark! I can't wait to see his results improve as he gets the spin down! Will use be videoing his lessons at all? Cheers guys
Way late to this vid. But a thought on why hes saying the mavrik feels easier/faster/nicer to swing. After also hitting them both side by side. The sim had a longer profile heel to toe and shorter sole to crown. While the mavrik is shorter heel to toe and taller sole to crown. Not neccessarily in the face but the head as a whole. I found the longer profile of the sim almost makes it feel like swinging a shovel. While it's not slower it's just a feel that takes a little getting used to if ur familiar with other brands
James Robinson Golf surely a wedge spins more than a 7 iron etc, loft is different. Strike will always win but that wasn’t in question really. I’m sure you’ll get Mark in the right head
James, you frequently comment on ball spin. In this vid you say you are working with Mark to reduce it. How would one do that? Why do that? How about a video on doing just that?
Watching this a little late, he swung hard on the last Mavrik and still didn't help the Mavrik on stats. SIM was better on stats and trajectory. SIM should be in lead but I feel his confidence with the Mavrik has to be accounted for
@@JamesRobinsonGolf What do you mean? Dont you set up your LM so that the middle of the fairway on the projector is where you and your mid handicapper are aiming?
William Bryngnas no mate. Not many people do. You change it for left and right handers. Depending on space in the room etc. Otherwise the whole room would be suited for one or the other. Which doesn’t work. Give the player an aim point on the screen
James Robinson Golf looks like he struggled to hit the Standard Mavrik vs the SIM Max. I think Max to Max would have been a better comparison. Like your videos.
Mike Truran “would have been” or “will be a good comparison”... without testing you never know Mike. Also... watch the standard mavrik mid handicap test.... then comment back :)
SIM. Mark's only picking the Mav because of some mid life crisis memory of a fast sports car that was burnt orange in colour that he fantasised about picking chic's up in. Ok, I've changed to the Mav.
@@steveholliday4519 I suppose it's an individual thing but there are lots of tour pros that don't change to the new products even though they may have 'minimally better stats' as they like and trust their current clubs
You are correct, Golfers are and do amazing things that make no sense. After over 50 plus years of playing this crazy game I dearly love, I too have made many unsound decisions, and might not change most of them if having a chance. You have got to remember that there are people who play golf, and then there are the Golfers, big difference. We can't help it, we are beyond explaining what we do, we are Golfers and only other Golfers would know the affliction we deal with. Yes you make a good point though.
coegj hi guys... maybe fo watch the stand alone reviews of both theee drivers Mark has done for me... then come comment back :) I look forward to hearing firm you all 👍🏼 remember... test test test test
WHOA wait a min...just 7 months ago, marks normal swing speed was 90-93 with carry around 215...not just a 1 off, but on all his driver testing, all makes, he got same numbers...now just a few months later he is swinging at 104mph!! lets get real now..and carrying 250!...no normal mid handicapper can gain 10-15 mph swing speed and 35 yard more carry in 7 months.....this isn't right...it stinks
@@cwugrad396 hi no,,look back over last 2 years on every! driver test Mark has done, he is swinging at 93 tops and his carry is always 215-220....it is impossible at his age and skill level to suddenly be swinging like rick shiels! on this vid he was 104 mph! where has that come from? and this is the only video where he went from 220 to 260 carry, and he said he expected that! ...something way wrong here...
MARTIN yeh I’ve slowed things down when I’ve been injured and then got back to normal when I healed but I haven’t been able to pick up 11mph driver swing speed ever
I wouldn’t get into people’s personal circumstances. Income doesn’t necessarily mean disposable income. And disposable income doesn’t mean what they would want to pay in relation to level of golf
Keith Finley It's because of trademarks. You can't trademark the words "Hazardous" and "Maverick." Rather than coming up with creative names, they've gotten lazy and just started chopping vowels off normal words.
You Can make a comparison on every driver and it Will still be a good test, because it still tells you what driver is best for you :) keep up the good work James 👍👍⛳️⛳️
James Robinson Golf so your comment is that the mavrik max is a lightweight alternative. You’re wrong. The mavrik and mavrik max are both d2 swingweight. If you’re going to compare a TM maximum forgiveness driver against a standard mavrik (nonmax) driver head it’s like comparing a Porsche turbo against a non Porsche turbo. Of course you’re going to get skewed results. If you’re under the (wrong) presumption that the mavrik max driver is built as a lightweight driver for the market, you’re dead wrong. The epic flash star was built as a lighter driver. U get thousands of views from all over the world. Wouldn’t u want to give your viewers accuracy in your information u present? I’m a fan and I watch most of your videos. But to tell me my comment is stupid when you obviously have the wrong info about a driver is irresponsible and unfair to your viewers.
I love James, but tbh I am sick of the club reviews and most of these videos can be put into one. Now when I see your video reviews I just skip tbh. You make some great content but the amount of reviews over one club is too much. I am honestly sick of them. I want to see more of foxy, love collaborations with Liam and others. But no more reviews for the SIM and Maverick please please!!!!!!!!!!!
When my local club did a testing day a few weeks back, I tried both these drivers. All my clubs are Taylormade and I was biased as I approached the tee. After hitting the Mavrik, it changed my mind. Being able to test both clubs at the same time is essential. The Mavrik felt like I was hitting with butter. Such a soft feel. Loved it
The stats may favor the Sim, but Mark's smile at 9:16...says a lot! Good video, guys.
Love how when you ask him to smash it, with most drivers he's hit recently they've been his most accurate shots 👍🏻
Would’ve been interesting to see 6 swings with Mark’s own G410 Plus driver to compare to these new models James. I know it’s fitted to him, and the SIM & Mavrik weren’t, but would still like to see how it compared. Cheers
I was going to write the same thing. I totally agree!!!!
Thanks mate. I try to keep mark full of energy as he can’t hit too many balls but will keep it in mind 🔥⛳️🤙🏼
That would be cool to go head to head with what was fitted for him and he is used to.
Absolutely agree, adding his own G410 into the mix would be really interesting
Mid/high handicap went for a driver fitting and compared multiple drivers , shafts , set ups. mavrik was by far the best for me, James really appreciate the videos and content, I watch daily and comment usually on every video, my only complaint is it does seem like you favour Taylormade a bit, nothing wrong with that but it does sometimes feel a slight bias. Anyway . Blast away... regardless of my opinion I really enjoy your content. Thanks
Mark, James I think that sound wise they both had a great sounding ( crack ) with the Mavrik being just a tad louder ( crack ), to my ears either or both had the sound I like.
Neither of these two for me wanted to game one of these but didn't get on with any of them when i tried them. Distance and direction was at best average so ended up trying ping g410 plus and cobra speedzone. Really found my best friend with the cobra speedzone what a driver at a bargain price and i couldn't believe the results it gave me. Came away with solid distance dispersion was iron like and arrow straight with my cobra sz 9* with atmos blue 6r shaft. Even put the 3 wood in the bag too cobra rocks for me
Because of the weather, I've been getting an extremely comprehensive fitting that's taken over 2 months. Going into the last session it's still between the SIM, TS2, and ST200. The SIM is ugly as hell and sounds like I'm hitting a cardboard wall, but the feel of the face and numbers just don't lie. An absolute ridiculously great club.
Like women, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think the TM SIM is the best looking club yet...
Bought the Mavrik last week and really like it but think I need to do some adjustments to reduce slice that I experienced over the weekend.. But great sound and has a lot of pop to it.
I've never been a big Taylormade fan, but the consistency of shots with the SIM Max would get my vote. Mark commented that the SIM felt heavier...that might be a good thing. Mark might try one of their other shaft offerings like the Evenflow Riptide CB. The counter balance might give him the feel of the Callaway.
Going for my fit with the SIM Max next week. Very excited
James, I know I keep on saying this, but it is so difficult to watch Mark hit on the right or center of your screen and the ball start offline to the left dramatically. I have seen you hit balls 3 feet to the right of center and it will start on screen to the left (pull hook). I know you have replied back to me that it is the screen angle, but I have not seen this with any other youtube club reviews.
Great review though no matter what. Enjoyed it!
The screen has nothing to do with the clubface to the monitor.
@@mattsmith-bl2bg Not my point at all. Its what us viewers and possible the golfer hitting into the screen is seeing. Take a second and look at the shots into the screen and then watch where the ball actually starts showing. It's just weird to me. I am not saying that the electronics are wrong per se, it just looks extremely weird to me (maybe others). If Mark or James or whomever is hitting into the screen and the ball hits the screen 3ft to the right of the center line on the screen, the ball should start to the right of the center line. It might hook or whatever after due to face angle, etc. but it will start to the right no matter what.
Idk if maybe I missed the video but I’d be interested in a video of you giving mark a lesson. Just like the cameras aren’t there and you two having a lesson
james isn't a good teacher, he has taken marks handicap up! since giving him lessons..when they play together on the course, mark is making so many swing errors, but james never puts him right...James is having lessons himself actually....look at Dan Hendriksen for lessons
MARTIN I live in Canada brother. I’m not looking for lessons. Just thought it would be a interesting video. I like to see how different people coach
I smashed the sim max 174 yds I’m only a junior not even a teenager I love the sims 👍😂👌
Hood lad
If you like the Mavrik, just go buy a Rogue. Mavrik = Rogue with a flash face.
Apart from it’s a totally different shape head? And sound? Lol prob true of the sub zero though Gator! 🤙🏼
Something tells me that the Epic Flash 9 degree with the slide weight on the draw setting would help his accuracy and perhaps reduce some spin, he is using a fade which maybe he would do better to hit a more neutral ball and even kick up to 10 degrees, test that and see JRG..
Awesome video gents. I am a mid handicapper and I have a lot of spin so this review is perfect for me. I am gonna try both. and since I'm in so cal I can play in 70-80 degree weather.. :)
Would love to see Mark get fully fitted with both, so can see what difference shafts make to an overall decision.
Great vid as always james and Mark! I can't wait to see his results improve as he gets the spin down! Will use be videoing his lessons at all? Cheers guys
Callaway have a winner on their hands this year. Such a great feeling and performing driver.
I hit the sim way more consistent, and hit the mavrik all over the place, but since I hit the mavrik 3 yards further on one hit, I like it way better.
I can already tell this vid is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥!
Got to be Callaway. How did it compare against his fitted Ping driver he got fitted for last year
Way late to this vid. But a thought on why hes saying the mavrik feels easier/faster/nicer to swing. After also hitting them both side by side. The sim had a longer profile heel to toe and shorter sole to crown. While the mavrik is shorter heel to toe and taller sole to crown. Not neccessarily in the face but the head as a whole. I found the longer profile of the sim almost makes it feel like swinging a shovel. While it's not slower it's just a feel that takes a little getting used to if ur familiar with other brands
Has mark tried SIM standard in a 10.5 head? Maybe bring his launch up and help bring the spin down?
Great question mate coming soon
More loft more spin?
Glen Williams no mate. Totally depends on strike but generally a lower loft driver will launch low but spin up to ruse
James Robinson Golf surely a wedge spins more than a 7 iron etc, loft is different. Strike will always win but that wasn’t in question really. I’m sure you’ll get Mark in the right head
Glen Williams wedge is a different prospect to a driver mate. Hit down on a wedge. Hit up on a driver 🤙🏼
Great testing Mark with some great numbers
Pretty interesting.............but I probably would have gone with the lighter club also.
Ping 410 plus. Distance combined with dispersion wins. Mark has the Ping, let’s see if he truly needs to change....?
So restricted regards left handed golf testing for multiple clubs. Would love to see some options
Darren Rhodes check out txg vlog. They hit left handed on almost all their videos
It's like listening to Keir Starmer testing golf clubs
been watching a few orca videos any chance you can compare a fitting with the big boys vs orca would be so good to know the differences
James, you frequently comment on ball spin. In this vid you say you are working with Mark to reduce it. How would one do that? Why do that? How about a video on doing just that?
Hit it more on the up mate generally
Watching this a little late, he swung hard on the last Mavrik and still didn't help the Mavrik on stats. SIM was better on stats and trajectory. SIM should be in lead but I feel his confidence with the Mavrik has to be accounted for
wee bit high density on the back of the maverick clubhead and its no.1 driveer
Can you explain this? How do you get high density?
The shot at 6:04 does not look like it is starting that much left relative to where he is aiming (where the mat is pointing)
That’s not how launch monitors work mate.
@@JamesRobinsonGolf What do you mean? Dont you set up your LM so that the middle of the fairway on the projector is where you and your mid handicapper are aiming?
William Bryngnas no mate. Not many people do. You change it for left and right handers. Depending on space in the room etc. Otherwise the whole room would be suited for one or the other. Which doesn’t work. Give the player an aim point on the screen
Good video but equally there is a lot to gained by choice of shaft which you don’t talk about.
Why didn't you test the Sim Max vs the Mavrik Max?
These two are more suited mate
James Robinson Golf looks like he struggled to hit the Standard Mavrik vs the SIM Max. I think Max to Max would have been a better comparison. Like your videos.
Mike Truran “would have been” or “will be a good comparison”... without testing you never know Mike. Also... watch the standard mavrik mid handicap test.... then comment back :)
You should do low handicap and scratch reviews as well.
How about not Doing mainstream irons and woods and try something like Orka golf club fitting then have a more Realistic comparison
I dont like the dead carbon sound in the mavrik i hit, is the Sim the same way?
Yes. Most golfers are not old enough to have played with Persimmon. The THWACK of both clubs are “traditional.”....
The SIM won in distance and in dispersion. Yet he still likes the Maverick better?
Have you watched his Mavrik review mate
James Robinson Golf yes, he was on that day. Kind of the reason you want to compare same day with same swing.
Wade Preston it was precisely 7 mins later...
James Robinson Golf wow, looked like a completely different swing.
Rofl
James when you going to review the callaway mavrik irons
Soon mate! Soon!
That’s all good except they charge separate for each fitting who can afford that
SIM. Mark's only picking the Mav because of some mid life crisis memory of a fast sports car that was burnt orange in colour that he fantasised about picking chic's up in. Ok, I've changed to the Mav.
I thought it was all about results?!
“I want the one that doesn’t perform as well” lol.
Golfers amaze me..."SIM performs better and has better stats, but I'm going with mavrik" smh
Because stats aren’t the only factor. Personal preference comes into it especially if the ‘better stats’ are so minimal
@@Seve007 agreed what suits the eye and feels makes a difference but in a game of inches I'll take the minimally better stats all day
@@steveholliday4519 I suppose it's an individual thing but there are lots of tour pros that don't change to the new products even though they may have 'minimally better stats' as they like and trust their current clubs
You are correct, Golfers are and do amazing things that make no sense. After over 50 plus years of playing this crazy game I dearly love, I too have made many unsound decisions, and might not change most of them if having a chance. You have got to remember that there are people who play golf, and then there are the Golfers, big difference. We can't help it, we are beyond explaining what we do, we are Golfers and only other Golfers would know the affliction we deal with. Yes you make a good point though.
coegj hi guys... maybe fo watch the stand alone reviews of both theee drivers Mark has done for me... then come comment back :) I look forward to hearing firm you all 👍🏼 remember... test test test test
Mark fades and draws, he aint straight
Need to get a B-21 in his hands.
you are to much TM biased James,
I'm glad that Mark can't be influenced
😂😂😂 maybe watch some more of my videos Guenter. I take that very personally when I literally have ONE Taylormade club currently in my bag.
James Robinson Golf For whatever it’s worth I’ve been viewing for years and I think your testing is quite neutral....Keep up the good work...
Heart over head?
Why not get these fitted like his ping and then test them all together
What cobra an muzuo
WHOA wait a min...just 7 months ago, marks normal swing speed was 90-93 with carry around 215...not just a 1 off, but on all his driver testing, all makes, he got same numbers...now just a few months later he is swinging at 104mph!! lets get real now..and carrying 250!...no normal mid handicapper can gain 10-15 mph swing speed and 35 yard more carry in 7 months.....this isn't right...it stinks
MARTIN Maybe 104mph is his normal swing speed and the 90-93mph wasn’t his normal speed bc of an injury?
@@cwugrad396 hi no,,look back over last 2 years on every! driver test Mark has done, he is swinging at 93 tops and his carry is always 215-220....it is impossible at his age and skill level to suddenly be swinging like rick shiels! on this vid he was 104 mph! where has that come from? and this is the only video where he went from 220 to 260 carry, and he said he expected that! ...something way wrong here...
MARTIN yeh I’ve slowed things down when I’ve been injured and then got back to normal when I healed but I haven’t been able to pick up 11mph driver swing speed ever
His swing speed is about 50 mph
James - you seem to favour too much TM in your comments .. not nice
Expand mate? Am I not allowed an opinion?
Just a general feeling.. good videos James though ! Keep up the good work💪🏻
What is with all these ppl that hate taylormade for no reason when you're judging based on data it's pathetic man
I think golf clubs should be judged by a golfer’s income level instead of handicap.
I wouldn’t get into people’s personal circumstances. Income doesn’t necessarily mean disposable income. And disposable income doesn’t mean what they would want to pay in relation to level of golf
Ping g410 driver is better than both of these drivers
SLDR started this "drop the vowel" nonsense... Hzrdus, Cncpt. Hate it.
Keith Finley It's because of trademarks. You can't trademark the words "Hazardous" and "Maverick." Rather than coming up with creative names, they've gotten lazy and just started chopping vowels off normal words.
Why wouldn’t u compare both max drivers against each other? Stupid test.
Because the Mavrik Max is a lightweight alternative. Stupid comment
James Robinson Golf test Are NOT stupid People’s comments Are 👍
mrknop 🔥
You Can make a comparison on every driver and it Will still be a good test, because it still tells you what driver is best for you :) keep up the good work James 👍👍⛳️⛳️
James Robinson Golf so your comment is that the mavrik max is a lightweight alternative. You’re wrong. The mavrik and mavrik max are both d2 swingweight. If you’re going to compare a TM maximum forgiveness driver against a standard mavrik (nonmax) driver head it’s like comparing a Porsche turbo against a non Porsche turbo. Of course you’re going to get skewed results. If you’re under the (wrong) presumption that the mavrik max driver is built as a lightweight driver for the market, you’re dead wrong. The epic flash star was built as a lighter driver. U get thousands of views from all over the world. Wouldn’t u want to give your viewers accuracy in your information u present? I’m a fan and I watch most of your videos. But to tell me my comment is stupid when you obviously have the wrong info about a driver is irresponsible and unfair to your viewers.
I love James, but tbh I am sick of the club reviews and most of these videos can be put into one. Now when I see your video reviews I just skip tbh. You make some great content but the amount of reviews over one club is too much. I am honestly sick of them.
I want to see more of foxy, love collaborations with Liam and others. But no more reviews for the SIM and Maverick please please!!!!!!!!!!!
One word: ORANGE !!
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My guy! Lol
Ping g410
Seems like Mark is set on Mav, even when all of SIM numbers are better. SMH
Watch the Mavrik review
The stats may favor the Sim, but Mark's smile at 9:16...says a lot! Good video, guys.