Muay Thai vs Kudo - Amazing Clash of Martial Arts Styles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- We have a very awesome match that showcases some style vs style differences. We have a Muay Thai practitioner by the name of Владислав Григорʼєв (Vladyslav Grigor'ev), and we have a Kudo practitioner by the name of Сергій Вишневський (Serhii Vishnevskyi). Let's see what we can get out of this what looks like mixed-rules Muay Thai-esque cage match. Shoutout Victor Chepurov for putting together this awesome league! Also, we have a guest commentator Vivek aka Wegud.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Round 1
3:57 Round 2
8:11 Round 3
11:40 Winner declared
12:09 Vivek's music - กีฬา
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"Muay thai is a thai version of kickboxing"...I would say "kickboxing is an american version of Muay Thay"
Kickboxing has its origin in full contact Karate with influences from Muay Thai.@@etiennekelly5313
@@etiennekelly5313 kickboxing is japanese
Kudo is mma, and if rules do not alow ground fighting then this is pure kyokushin +box vs muay thai
That’s a very fair way of describing this!
Ground fight such a boring
kudo actually sites muay thai alongside kyokushin and boxing as part of its striking inspirations. originally it was just kyokushin+judo but later on they started adding boxing, muay thai, jujutsu, sambo and catch wrestling in the mix. so, not really, it's muay that+kyokushin+boxing+judo vs muay thai.
@@SalahuddinAyyubi-tu1pu it’s not Muay Thai it’s boxing with Kyokushin karate conditioning and kicks and blocks with. Boxing punches and judo throws and clinchs
@@SalahuddinAyyubi-tu1puNah that’s only the Russian variant. The original Japanese variant is just Kyokushin Karate and Judo. Judo has ground fighting, joint locking, throws, takedowns, etc.
I actually sparred my muay thai friend and a lot of the low shots from sanda made it easy for me to take him down
I see you are a low parry user as well 😁
Sanda is VERY realistic too. I actually want to learn sanda.
@@lemyoboi you know Sanda? Eyyy sup my guy 😁
Couple of things:
the matchup definitely favoured the MT guy. Kudo has much smaller gloves so the way they defend their heads is vastly different, this is probably why he ate so many elbows. Also, the boxing gloves have definitely limited kudo guy's ability to throw. I also think MT guy knows some grappling because he knew how to defend kudo guy's throw like a grappler. Another thing about kudo is that, if one combatant is significantly smaller than the other, he is allowed to hit the bigger guy in the balls :D
sanda use boxing gloves and that doen't limit their takedowns, don't make excuses, and if the gloves were smaller the elbows would've landed easier.
@@user-eb2kv7bg4tDude, Sanda gloves are much different. Don’t lie to yourself. Nobody is making excuses.
@@user-eb2kv7bg4tсаньду не ограничивает потому, что они годами работают в них. Я как боец кёкусинкай вообще не могу рубитьсч хоть в каких то перчатках
nice judo on the part of the kudo guy, especially in round 2. I think it's very important for grapplers to learn what they can do with boxing gloves on so they don't over rely on their fingers for grip (fingers are pretty weak and the gi/jacket isn't always there to fix that). Jean Jacques Machado has been a pretty dominant force in competition grappling despite having only a thumb on his left hand. Still, I agree with the judges on this one. A nice, technical fight.
Kudu means karate +judo
The gloves were a disadvantage for the Kudo guy. It made it difficult for him to clinch up and grapple. As soon as he got around the head though, he went straight for kubi nage. Looked like all his failed throws were because he couldn't clasp his hands or grip in any way. I think he would have been throwing the muay thai guy left and right if he hadn't been wearing gloves.
Yeah they should have had MMA gloves on... if padding was needed anywhere it was on the Muay Thai guy's elbows LOLOL
Without the gloves the Muay Thai fighter would've cracked his jaw left and right
Did you never see Amanda Nunes vs Rhonda
Haha, it is well known in japan matial art world that Muay Thai is so good at kubi sumo
@@Boxing-du9sn the match will turned out to be like rodtang vs Demetrious Johnson.
There are other matches which involve Muay Thai vs Kudo but they are rare for some reason. The one which gets the attention of MMA media is the Bellator matches (one MMA match and one kickboxing match) between Joe Schilling (US champion in Muay Thai) and Hisaki Kato (black belt in Kudo). Also, there was a Japanese representative of Kudo named Kenichi Osada and he fought a Thai fighter in the ring.
Maybe there a few kudo representatives
It's hard to find a Kudo school in the US. There are only a handful, most US states do not have a single dojo to train at. That's going to be a reason why you don't see many "Kudo VS" examples. It's hard to find Kudo guys because it's hard to find Kudo schools. I'd be a Kudo guy by now if it weren't.
They should give the kudo guy an mma gloves 😅
Yep!
Should be MMA rules
Both
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This fight reminds me of the hybrid rules fights between Sanda and Muay Thai from the early 2000's.
I saw the Norwegian Sanda nationals a few months ago, and a few fighters from my Muay Thai club decided to join. They won all but one weight class, that was one by an MMA-fighter.
kudo is basically what kyokushin should have been if the founder wasnt so biased with striking. Mas Oyama was also a kosen judo blackbelt and used to train and was bestfriends with judoka Masahiko Kimura (the original Gracie hunter). So kyokushin should have had throws as well.
I love my thicc judo Gi, twenty years, and it's still going strong.😂
I enjoy your work good stuff! A couple of comments though, The Kudo gi is not the same as a Karate gi, its lighter and cut differently (shorts sleeves cut into the design so impossible to rip off) The gi is also quite light in comparison to Karate. Also the camera is not taking footage of the audience, it zooms in on Edward Gluhov his coach from Kudo Ukraine. All the best! Mal (UK International Branch Chief)
Depends on the karate gi. There are karate gi for sport kumite that are insanely light while gi made for kata performance are heavy.
The hip toss is my favorite part 😄.
I still haven't found much on horting, all I could find were matches on channels dedicated to horting.
Nothing much on the history though 😔.
Kudo is the more effective martial art than muay thai as far as I am concerned, because when they spar they spar with head gear and the gi, but this allows them to do headbutts and establish a grip via clothing, all of which are effective in a street fight. Note that I mean Kudo is more effective in a street fight - when you have two martial artists from different styles versing each other, that is a different story all together
In this match, they stand them back up immediately after the fight goes to the ground (I'm not sure which ruleset this is because Muay Thai doesn't allow the big Judo throws, only sweeps and similar, and Kudo normally allows a little bit of ground grappling before the refs stand them up) If Muay Thai guy doesn't know his groundwork, Kudo guy could win/end the fight from Kesa Gatame. That alone is worth a lot, in my opinion. If Kudo guy knows enough Judo to do a choke, arm bar or similar from Kesa, that's the end of the fight, or, Muay Thai guy would have to continue fighting from a bad position with one fewer usable limb.
If headbutts are the defining factor of what’s better, then Lethwei fighters should have a leading streak over Muay Thai fighters for each time they fought- and there’s a lot of Lethwei vs. Muay Thai matches. It should also be noted that Lethwei does have takedowns and certain throws, just not to the variety of a lot of grappling arts, and it doesn’t have any submission holds- perhaps I should clarify that certain takedowns are legal in Lethwei instead. Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if in fights against Muay Thai, the rulesets were modified to restrict takedowns at all- it should also be worth mentioning that Lethwei *does* have a heavy focus of strikes over takedowns, even if it’s legal at times.
I think kudo vs sambo will be an epic fight!
Scary elbow moves dude, and realy clean throw from judo
Kudo guy should amped out more of his boxing combos. He's not aggressive enough and he lets the MT guy dictate the pace where the MT guy is good of.
Yep
At about 5:00, dude had a suplex waiting to happen but he was probably sucking air at this point.
I think Kudo dude did well considering. It wasnt an easy win and thats telling. Proud of bim
Yes, 12-6 elbows are allowed in Muay Thai. You can also elbow the back of the head and anywhere you want (except obviously the groin).
The ring girl's outfit was hilarious.
Yeah. I didn’t realize until I was uploading today. Awesome you caught that detail. Thanks for being attentive!
Kickboxing rules in this fight. Ever time they go to the ground the ref stands them up immediately.
If you are ever interested in eye gouges as a fighting technique I just saw KOTS the other day and they had them completely allowed. Probably won’t be able to make a video but it is fascinating
Wow! That’s crazy! Do you have the link to the match?
That is insane!
What is KOTS?
i feel like kudo guys tend not to do well in style vs style matches for two main rule difference reasons--gi grappling and headbutts. there really aren't any other sports that feature both and both are really integral to kudo and tough to adapt to losing. wearing boxing gloves is also a big disadvantage for a kudo guy as well
Kudo vs Lethwei would be a dream matchup!
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@@io8881Right, homie condemning the next Kudo dude to death. Lethwei is the martial art for folks who are ok meeting God
a more interesting fight than lethwei would be kudo going up against combat sambo. kudo is overall a better martial art than lethwei but lethwei guys are actually conditioned to taking punches and giving headbutts without helmet.
Don't they have that in combat sambo as well?
Buen combate por ambas parte, pero al practicante de kudo le faltó utilizar también codo y otras patadas, ya que en kudo incluso se permiten cabezasos y golpear con cualquier parte del cuerpo.
The gloves and soft mat are disadvantaging the kudo guy
i trained in both nice video
Les ponen guantes pero vale dar codazos? Para eso que usen cascos o todo a mano limpia.
That MT guy definitely has grappling skills. He outgrappled the Kudoka LMAO
Mauy thai is all about clinch work so ... yeahh
@@tnygant6648 Yep, but still his balance is not that good.
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It looks like a movie because the short keep showing the people
Kudoka did not learn from Rodtang's recent victory against a fighter using spinning elbows.
Which fight? His most recent one against Tavares?
Tbh I m surprised by the kudo(sp?) guy pulled off those throws in late rounds
We can see, that kudo's technique arsenal is wider than thai-boxing's. I think, that kudo as a style wins in this fight, because kudo-man showed more effective combat moves. But muay-thai sportsman showed us higher endurance, thats why he wins. I think he spent more time in his gym)
So, one man defeated another one, despite the fact that his style was not so impressive.
Hahahahah.
The Kudo guy ate half a dozen elbows, such a vast arsenal of eating strikes
incredible ossu
The throws were useless though from the Kudo guy. Yes he made of thrown the Muay Thai guy a few times but you're not able to throw any punches or kicks to the ground. So all it was doing was stalling for time, while the Kudo guy was still eating countless elbows and knees.
And that jab from the Kudo guy was a stiff arm, there wasn't anything behind it. The Muay Thai guy was getting ready to kick and just slipped on that wet plastic canvas. The Muay Thai guy won all three rounds.
I agree, also from a stamina perspective; Throwing guys is hard f'in work. Throwing a sweaty guy sporting shorts while wearing boxing gloves is even harder - Gotta give him respect for trying and actually even pull it off a couple of times. The gi isn't helping either. He can't cool off as effectively and loses more fluid. He also loses the advantage of being slippery when sweaty. Even Royce Gracie stopped wearing the gi after his legendary(!!!) clash with Sakuraba at Pride FC.
As a style vs style exhibition it's not great to use the ruleset of one martial art. I mean just look at all the MMA guys in boxing - If you're a professional in a sport then you're kind of an expert at that particular sport.
I guess it was to do kudo striking vs Muay Thai striking? Honesty would prefer if they did lethwei rules, feels like a better ruleset that has elements of both styles
Im not surprised the kudo guy lose, but im impressed he gassed out because they train with those astronaut headgears that make breathing seriously difficult.
Interesting match up which I wanted to see but both fighters have to be physically and experience wise as close to one another as possible since I firmly believe it is, at least, 75% depends on the fighters skills, fighting wit and strength.
Kudo has the ability to beat any striking art as it's much more well rounded, the rules were in the Muay Thai fighters favour due to the fact they had to stand up after the Kudo fighter takes him down.
Wow! Imagine if the Kudo guy could use grappling or head butts, didn't where his belt and Gi jacket - completely different fight. Respect to all involved.
What a good fight
the muay thai dude was a hail of elbow blows, god damn !
You always win if you represent yourself honestly as a martial artist
The kudo guy is on an extreme disadvantage. Not only the gloves prevents most grappling, but also they do not engage on ground, so it should be an easy win for the mt guy, and wven with that, the kudo dude does well
Tem muito que se aprender vendo essa luta, o rapaz do kudo deveria estar sem luvas, é a arte dele, mas principalmente o narrador jamais deveria rir de um artista marcial, seja ele quem for, respeito na arte marcial é tudo, aprenda isso sr.
Elbows are allowed in Kudo as are headbutts
Where are the LOW KICK?
Ring girl with a balaclava is what got me…
Yep. That was a funny detail!
It's funny how all mixed martial arts systems around the world just look like MMA lol
Most original or old forms of martial arts is basically MMA 😂😂
On the back of the referee is written R E F E R I (Referee) lol
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12-6 elbows are absolutely allowed in Muay Thai. Just not in Western MMA. They're allowed in ONE Championship though.
These style Vs style matches should not be under one of those styles rules. The kudo guy should be allowed to wear smaller gloves and to headbutt. It's like those taekwondo Vs muya thai combats, but the thai fighter is not allowed to elbow, knee, or low kick. It's ridiculous.
How do you not know muay thai rules as a commentator?
Estou estasiado com está luta um garoto novo desse tampando na porrada fininho, e o bobalhão rindo dele por que caiu, geralmente esses indivíduos não aguentam um round de 3 minutos, parabéns ao garoto pela valentia, mas esse narrador não merece crédito nessa profissão. Brasil, oss.
Kudo guy wins in a street fight, what people dont realise is BJJ and japanese jui jitsu is involved
os dois sao muito bons 😄
Have to agree with the judges although I always root for the "grappler". Confusing rules set and what I've found online is even more confusing. It may be they did not hire a good translator.
It was a good fight
As a lifelong karate guy who has cross trained in Muay Thai, gi’s suck. They stick to your legs and make kicking harder, they get drenched and hang on you all soggy and gross. If I could, I’d never train in a gi again. Buuuuuut, I run a traditional karate school 🥲
You probably never learned how to use yours (or your opponents) as a weapon. Sode Guruma Jime, Juji Jime, Okuri Eri Jime, etc
Gi's just make you heat up faster.
Great fight.🎉🎉🎉❤🇹🇭55555
1:05 he actually didnt eat that
They both represented their Styles well, the Kudo guy was just not as strong of a fighter as the muy Thai Guy. Muay Thai guy also had the rules advantage.
wrestling was allowed and the chinch was limited so the kudo guy had the rules advantage
Muay Thai also has throws.
Куда ни плюнь везде наши.
0:20 and the names on screen are in Russian, for some reason.
He definitely defeated by his Gi.
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@@andrewk.5575 Yeah its not that bad
12 to 6 are allowed in Muay Thai
Karatè, old or modern, is always one of the most efficient martial art in fights. No excuses.
Зачем им вообще надели перчатки, при том что разрешены удары локтём в голову? в таком формате у бойца муай-тай явное преимущество. Кстати, локтями он работает весьма впечатляюще.
You know rodtang
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Convengamos que el kudoca esta limitado se los agarres y la lucha en si
Full of beer glasses on the ground, judo screams first when they "win", and judo has no pain conditioning, good luck in street fights. The ancient MT can elbow eyes and knee your downstairs; today's MT is a "weaker" version to fit the sportsmanship.
The muy tai guy was a douche with his antics after winning and ge tried kneeing the kudo dude in the face when he was bowing
One of my friends was push kicked in the face when he went to touch gloves in Thailand.
Estan peliando en las reglas de Muay thay parece y esto limita la eficiencia del luchador de Kudo porque se utiliza sapo o unos guantes de MMA podría meter más técnicas proyecciones etc
there is no best Martial Art in how we compare. To be really honest about comparisons, you'd need to let a Kendo practitioner to fight a BJJ practitioner using his weapon. Same with Kali and knives and sticks, same with all arts. Want a fair and honest comparison, let the artists use what they train with. So a kali fighter with a knife vs a BJJ with a gi. That is fair.
En una pelea libre y sin reglas, creeria que el Kudo es mas efectivo
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This just looks like a kudo fighter fighting MT rules! Kudo fighter disadvantaged here by opponent having no gi and having to wear boxing gloves! Just watch a kudo fight and the differences are obvious. Not taking away from the skill of the MT guy but this is clearly his territory. Good fight though!
They can head but in kudo and also use elbows this kudo dude just aint trained alot doing elbows i think he would have def won if he used elbows but i think cause he wore a gi they provably told him he cant throw elbows and he probably agreed not to throw elbows and wanted to wear his gi
I think the Styles are not diferent when it's real the fight
In Muay thai Elbows are allowed
I don't think it was a jab. I think he slipped.
Bro idk how I beat my friend who does Muay thai and you gotta guess what style I do
Taekwondo??
Я считаю что борец вольник, боксёр, самбист, ммашник, они всё сильнее тайского бокса если боец хороший, также довольно неплохо каратэ киокушинкай так как я им занимался, но я и ходил на бокс
@@gabrieldominguez7858nope old old school karate
@@jokersan9996nice I do Okinawan kenpo karate crazy conditioning and boxing as my second and jiujitsu judo and krav maga
This isn’t Kudo...not Atama...no elbows ,no submision,no arm locks ,no leg locks....
So Vivic is sn RMB artist not hiphop, but then says his music is more in the hip hop realm?? Lol
I think he just needs to find his brand more. I encourage him to put out more stuff.
I was saying hiphop would make more sense as the background music for a fight than an rnb song. Im a singer and do rnb/hiphop
Know Various Styles>>>>One Style.
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Karate guy didn't even go a round before he abandoned karate and tried boxing.
What's that tell you?
MMA rule, 1000% Kudo win.
i was see figh in the school with more tecnic
Kudo fighter here: we had many white belt Kudoka better than this guy, this is worst kudo fighter I saw in a while
Please send me links to more kudo! Always down to feature more!
@@FightCommentary loo
Look up Taiga Iwasaki, he's a kudo guy in Japan and he's fighting mma. He has an 8-1 record
I reckon it was more to do with the gloves, no grips is why he couldn't do anything
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Muay Thai won on conditioning
As a Thai, this MT guy dares to use many weapons, which is good, but he should focus on how to kick effectively and focus on clinching and boxing more.