Kyokushin Karate vs Kickboxing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- We have a great match from our buddies in Europe. In this match, a kickboxer named Alexander Ten takes on a Kyokushinkai named Artem Veklich. Let's watch and see what happens. There are some epic kicks and attempts at Rolling Thunders! Also stay tuned to see viewer Hurrican Santana featured at the end!
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Timecodes:
0:00 Round 1
3:06 Round 2
6:11 Round 3
9:19 Update on this league
9:32 Featuring viewer Hurricane Santana - กีฬา
Kyokushin guy here. One of the "dirty secrets" that my sensei taught me is that the fancy kicks like spinning back kicks or rolling thunder often serve the same purpose as the clinch in boxing. They give you a few more seconds of rest. If it lands, great! They're gonna get hurt. If it doesn't land, great! They probably evaded it by distance, so you have a couple more seconds to breathe. Chances are, that's what Kyokushin guy was up to with the flip kicks he was throwing. Valiant fighting on his part!
Super cool tip!
That is an interesting tactic and sorta makes sense how an opponent’s natural reaction is to get away from such a big movement kinda kamikaze
Ive done both back in the days, with kyokushin(kai) beeing my base and my sensei at that time mixing both up, I know the flaws of kyokushin, like every arts has, but also its strength. Nowadays im leaning towards kick- boxing and a bit muay thai as a sport, but still being a karate guy at heart.
Im disapointed about the kyokushin guy. He didnt use well timed mae or joko geris, to try to keep the opponent at distance, or oshiro- geri in a combo. There were also no knees to the thighs, or ... i dont what to give to much secrets away. But he could have done more.
I don't know if it's a good idea to use a move that takes up a hell of a lot of energy as a "rest move". I get the idea that it's to create distance, and that's certainly an argument for using them, but if you're using moves like that to try and conserve energy, I think you're achieving the opposite. Catapulting yourself like that, and then having to pick yourself back up, is a heck of a workout if you're doing that several times in a fight.
@@seraphinaaizen6278i dont find is very exhausting especially if youre just relying on momentum. Shifting your weight from engaging and disengaging is for example is alot more exhausting yet it looks like your hardly even moving
The thing about Kyokushin Karate fighters who are very well disciplined is that they have high pain tolerances from what I've seen.
I do okinawan karate and I have a high paint tolerance snd I also do boxing as my striking but karate is my main so I guess it’s just a karate thing for high pain tolerance lol
kyokushin especially focuses on a concept called "ossu no seishin" which means the spirit of pushing onwards so they learn to keep pressuring even when it hurts
Cause our style sparring is basically stand in front of each other a pound away. Give some to take some. Lolol OSU!!!
But no in face
Jerry I'm about to get on a plane so don't have time to watch this right now, just wanted to comment that you've been knocking it out of the park lately.
Have a safe trip
It's a shame that the McDojo era of the 80s and 90s in America and Europe gave karate such a bad reputation in the mainstream. Karate is still highly serviceable and its great to see it getting represented.
American Karate association create American Kickboxing, What destroy Karate Reputation are Point Karate tournaments like they do in Japan where the fights seems a Light Sparring.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh that's shotokan karate point fighting , kyokushin has always been full contact , dutch kickboxing came from kyo and amerikan kickboxing came from mixing boxing with point style shotokan karate , so yes usa ruined everthing
The rules have changed in Karate Tournanents, now it's 6 points, a kick is two points and a punch 1, also I believe face contact is now permitted, previously it wasn't because the Tournanent hosts were uninsured.
Both of these guys were tough as nails, Jerry!
Yeah, it was a very good match!
The fighting is top notch, but I think the editor is trying way too hard for that cinematic feel with all the cuts to the crowd and tight-window angles. Let us see them cook!
Yep
Seems like Kyokushin translates really well to the ring when going against kickboxing and Thai boxing. It probably has a lot to do with the fighter themselves. Home grown Thai boxers had brutal lives and it translates to the ring. These Ukranian kyokushin dudes are probably the same.
The kyokushin guy have good takedown techniques
He's actually a purple belt in BJJ as well
@@deadfisheyes1ik interesting, kyokushin + bjj is a good mix
Unrelated to this video, but you and many other TH-camrs have helped me start my judo journey. Thank you FCB 💙
Happy to hear that!
Love the channel and love martial arts as a whole, gives me motivation to keep training
Man, I love these videos. Keep it these videos coming!
Glad you like them!
Great fight, but also great sportsmanship.
What a fight man! Both fighters were tough as can be.
Surprised to hear Adam Sandler doing fight commentary, and i will subscribe!! Love that Happy Gilmore voice over the fight.
funny
5:40 Nice!
I would expect more brazilian kick kakato and fency tricky kicks from kyokushin
What's a Kakato?
@@FightCommentaryAn axe kick is often used against targets such as the head or shoulder bone of an attacker. However, this kick should be selectively utilized as you are exposing yourself to a counter attack.
@@FightCommentaryKakato Otoshi Geri (Axe Kick) the Favorite Techinique of the Legend of K1 and Karate Kyokushin Andy Hug.
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@@FightCommentary kakato is axe kick but here is a tip:
Andy hug=god of kakato axe kick
Glaube feitosa=god of brazilian kick. Wonder if they named brazilian kick cause of him.
You should check them both, amazing legends.
Kyokushin Guy is very, very, very...gassed out!!!
Damn finally you reviewed a good quality video!
awesome match
TH-cam guy here. One thing my senseï taught me was to always keep an eye on my phone's battery indicator because it may tur
Kyokushin is awesome
The kyokushin karate has snappy technique on his punches. I very much liked his check left hook the 1st round but if it was followed up with a uppercut or straight right it would've been more damaging considering his snap. He reminds me more of Japanese kickboxers the way they snap their punches and kicks.
it reminds of japenese kickboxing cause japenese kickboix comes from karate ,karate came first , so kickboxing should actually remind you karate .
@@crisalcantara7671 Good point. I guess I have gotten too used to other style of kickboxing where its more traps rather than snaps.
@@sirliamgalvez5276 the trap snapper style lol
The Karate fighter has a good offensive Takedowns but lacks technical refinement on the ground, that's why train jiu jitsu is essential if you're going to fight MMA.
or judo
5:40 _That's_ how you land a spinning kick. Don't lead off with them. Set it up first with a feint or other strikes/combos to elicit a reaction so that the kick catches your opponent off guard or _opens_ a line to the target.
This video helps me totally cure my insomnia problem 😂
Thats awesome!
"The way karateka throw straight punches is different from a MT or boxer" yes, but MT also throws punches differently from boxing. TBH though, only real struggle for Kyokushin guy was that he clearly had much worse cardio. And neglected low kicks for some reason.
Muay thai has a lot of things that lack it lacks head movement and circling
Have you ever covered the Andy Hug vs. Sadau Kiatsongrit?
In the kickboxing/muay Thai coaches I've learned from, only one ever (briefly) mentioned leading a combo with a kick just to switch the rhythm. I always felt it worked well in mma fights and in my own sparring rounds
The guard of the Kyokushin guy reminds me of the most common guard in Glory Kickboxing (Serkan Ozcaglayan comes into mind). He'd do well in the kickboxing sphere.
I think kick-boxing would probably be better in a fight just because, technically speaking, karatekas only use a fraction of the techniques that they learn in the dojo during a fight (to the point where they kinda fight like kick-boxers in the ring, anyway). On the other hand, a kick-boxer would use 100% of the skills learned in the ring and would fight exactly as they train. Thoughts, anyone?
Alexander Ten, the kickboxer, won this whole Pitbull Fight tournament. 🔥🥊🔥
thats amazing!
What is the purpose of the pink bar on the left and right? Are they like the health bars? 😅
Very light little show 👍
Bro how did that first rolling thunder not do anything... Man thats crazy
This is a fun fight
The kick boxer controlled the pace of the fight which the black belt wasn't used to that quick of a fight pace so he tired faster . The black belt definitely surprised me with his heart and surprised the kickboxer too with his toughness. What a wonderful fight ❤
Glad you enjoyed this! We love showing these matches.
nice flare kick attempt by gi guy man sheesh
both great fighters
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Yea good fight!
why does the camera keep panning to the audience during the fight?
kickboxing = karate + boxing
Karate vs Mixed karate
Kyokushin guys are tough as nails. I am a shotokan karate guy and me personally I am to much of a wimp to train in the Kyokushin dojo in my town. I drive by and see them sparring full contact with no gear and i’m like no thanks. The best is when I see some of the guys limping out of the Kyokushin dojo walking to their car l
Kyokushin all the way 🥊
1) in the cyrillic alphabet, the H is actually an N sound so his name is 10 which is badass. 2) kyokushin guy is bouncing too much. Not a lot of karate people know this but you're not supposed to bounce when fighting. Karate comes from the old kung fu technique whooping crane, the founder developed the technique by observing cranes. Do cranes bounce a lot? No. Bouncing makes it so you the opponent guesses your next move. 3) karate struggles with boxing gloves because karate teaches to whip your strikes, boxing gloves make whipping your strikes impossible to be effective. If it was bare knuckle, kyokushin dude would have annihilated. Kickboxing utilizes gloves as a shield, without them, it screws up the technique. 4) excellent fight!
true .
It would be hard to find but how about featuring Yaw Yan fights? :D
If you have any links, let us know.
Exactly please feature some yaw yan and Dutch kickboxing match (recent not from the Ernesto hoost era)
O karateca não conseguiu soltar o jogo.
What is the name of this league?
Thats why when you fight a black belt striker, never take the belt that seriously. This shows that perfectly
Just for the heck of it: Kyokushinkaikankarateka
The kickboxer is à nice man !!
1:15 he 100% blocked that kick with his hand.
I don't like how the Karate guy doesn't get penalized for missing those spinning back kicks and falling down but instead gets reset where they can do some more till they score a point.
so who won?
Whats.the different of Muay Thai to kickboxing?
Muay Thai allows elbows and repeated knees in clìnch, aswell as sweeps. Scoring is also different.
Kyokushin guy didnt use kyokushin techniques which are deadly
01:58 kickboxing guy is ethnic Korean
anyone else gonna comment on the fact that the kyokushin guy was in a muay thai stance the entire fight and throwing muay thai strikes? lol
why karate guy ain't using dif type of kicks? in my club we use low kick, roundhouse, spinning hook kick, back kick, brazillian kick and many more
In Cyrillic н isn’t H it makes the n sound like in end.
Kyokushin guy really should have thrown more leg kicks in the fight. Also the rolling thunder is an ok technique but I don't like it simply for the un-realism of it. A much more realistic and almost equally devastating kick if landed is the spinning heel kick (ushiro ura mawashi geri.)
What is the value of the rolling thunder if you land on the ground? You connect and the ground is pavement or wood its going to hurt or stun. In a street fight may you are in for a world of ground and pound.
Yeah. It seems to be specific for matches that don’t allow continued fight on the ground.
this is not a street fight but a sport fight. You train for one specific context and not the other ones...
if you are doing sports you don't care about what would work in the street...
@@JeremyRoyaux I'll stick with fightcommentary reply.
what brain ded guy is gonnah do a flip on he street lol , it's not a selfe defence technique .
the kickboxer breathes.
the puntuation: -25
I need to see how that was scored. Kyokushin guy landed more strikes and WAY more throws and takedowns. I had him winning. Do the throws/takedowns not get counted?
Kyokushin learned boxing also not just kyokushin sure about that
Kyuokushin guy wasted so much energy spamming those rolling thunders and flying knees. They need to be setup if they were to land, just throwing naked isn't good.
Even though one of the rolling thunders landed there was no setup so the Kickboxer at least rolled with the hit so it reduced the power significantly he wasn't shook at all after.
You could see the Kyuokushin guy gassed out at the end after his last takedown which probably emptied the rest of his tank.
I think Kyuokushin guy could've tried to time a front kick to the chin when the kickboxer was pressing forward with a feint stiff jab to impair the centre line vision when he was using the high guard.
Goddamn Mongolians!
Надо чтобы каждый по своим правилам бился. Тогда можно чёт там прикидывать, какое единоборство сильнее.
Давайте ещё вольника попросим по правилам кикиров "боротся".
try hiroki akimoto 👌 i think that’s his name lol
8:34
Some manners would be appreciated and would let more people watch until the end.
Le joueur du kyokushinkai doit respecter les règles de cet art martial
When will we ever see an actual boxer in the octagon using boxing rules fighting MMA using MMA rules? After all, we have seen so many MMA fighters in the ring fighting boxers under boxing rules.
James Toney. After seeing what Randy Couture did to him no boxer wants the embarrassment.
Boxing Pay More if you can Box in a Professional level there's no reason to do MMA.
@@JohnAvillaHerpetoculturalJames Toney fight MMA when he started losing in Boxing.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh kind of doesn’t matter. A boxer cannot defeat a well rounded fighter in a fight more often than margin of error for luck. No take down defense. No ability to guard against leg kicks. No ability whatsoever on the ground. No chance. Now if you take a boxer and train him in grappling and at least teach him some low kick defense he could do as well as anyone but he wouldn’t be a boxer anymore.
@@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural
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this matches was not fair
They had to fight to mma rule
Senpay luigi li prende a schiaffi tutti e due
You ever seen Hackers? Its not related to anything, i'm just asking
The show on HBO Max?
@@FightCommentary Naw, the movie from 1995
I'll take a look.
@@FightCommentary it’s a good one. Anyway, keep up the killer content
@@FightCommentary It is VERYmuch of its time. It is a fun,bad movie (very early Angelina Jolie).
I'm guilty of this from kyokushin, that you get very used to attacking and defending the body under the kyokushin rules that punching the head almost feels a bit foreign.
if it was mma 2:21 the was over :o
Kyoukushin whitout kicks in his head
the point on the left and right seem arbitrary. It was hard to follow cause it seemed like the left would go down regardless who threw the blow.
Yeah, that was confusing to me too!
your voice sound like uncle roger
That's pretty funny!
bros eating inside of my ear this entire video :(
Ironically the Muay Thai guy gets hit more than the Kyokushin guy. That Kickboxer is on another level, but Kyokushin guy definitely put up a good fight.
I feel like u should look up more styles of karate
I don't like rolling thunders bc they put thr fighter on the ground, removing the possibility of a counter bc you can't strike a downed opponent.
The Kyokushin karateka lack stamina and low kicks.
Kyokushin no usa guantes!!!!
Kyokushin guy leans too much on his back leg and throws front let with no power needs to throw that back leg more. Also needs cardio work. But good fight and good control.
This is why I quit kyokushin after Shodan. Strong kicks, body shots, weakness to head punches, Lack of angle change. If anyone wanna learns full contact, I recommend Ashihara, Enshin.
Karate Shito-Ryu if you want Full Contact and it's more complete than Kyokushin a true japanese style of Karate.
it's the same style only with head punches, why bother go there to ashihara enshin , all you had to do was take some boxing lessons and train further or a kickboxing gym and train you boxing , that's all .
Én itt nem làtok se kick boxost,se és Kyokushin karatést sem. Miröl beszél? Az egyik olyan Muay thai stilusu a màsik az valami karate akar lenni de nagyon amatör🤣
Não foi uma luta justa, os lutadores de Kyokushin lutam sem luvas e os do Kickboxing lutam com luvas. Então o lutador de karatê ficou prejudicado, pois a potência dos socos foram drasticamente absorvidas pelas luvas - ele praticamente lutou com 75% do seu potencial (50% chutes + 25% socos). Fora isso, prefiro a eficiência do Kickboxing, e mais ainda o Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!
Nice do mawashi kaiten geri but useless ( no power)
ルールがよくわからないけど、投げ技は認められてるのかな？
極真空手家がキックボクシングをしているので、キックボクサーが有利に見える。。
Работа на руках не из киокушинкай
кимоно мешает! Кекушин в твоем сердце так что снимай куртку и бейся свободно
Defo not a pure Kyokushin guy.
aggreed , eighter he got his black bet in 2 years or he hasn't trained in years and drink alchohol daily cause it was pittufull and disgracefull for kyo black belt
osu
فقط اومده بود آبروی کیوکوشین رو ببره
kuyoukushi sucks cause they are not alowed to punch in the face, they did this style to "fix" touching style, but they removed head punch, therfore, making it evenless effectiv
aafter so many people getting sent to the hospital after getting struck by bare knuckes that could break bricks it was the right idea but made the style weak , if they added gloves it would be as good as muay thai , they proved that already by beating muay thai fighters back then so i still don't get why they just didn't add the gloves with strikes to th face , probally did't want to be called copy cats back then , they were weird on honor thing back then .
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У боксера больше понтов чем мастерства.