Korra shedding a tear during the end was so impactful to me. There was no happy ending with her situation, she was broken. Not every story should be wrapped in a neat little bow tie
@Jimmy Carr Center Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, as well as a near death experience and the effects of poisoning. Any realistic person would be heavily impacted with nearly dying and being reduced to a wheelchair when they were an athletic fighter.
@Jimmy Carr Center Yeah, but still what she went through here was pretty extremem. She was poisoned, mentally and physically tortured because of said poison, suffocated, nearly died, and then confined to a wheelchair in the end. All of it had to have some kind of immense impact on her. You don't just go through all of that and not come out of it unscathed. Even if one eventually physically heals from it, they'll never be the same mentally.
@Jimmy Carr Center In ATLA, they never really focused heavily on the trauma aspect of that though. In LOK, it does which I appreciate since most kid's cartoon would just brush that kind of thing aside. Also, why is it unrealistic that trauma would last that long? You don't know how each person may deal with it. Just look at soldiers, rape victims, abuse victims, or anyone who experienced severe trauma. There are those who recover after a few years and those who never really do. And even if those that do recover, they are forever changed. So I don't get what's the problem with Korra here. What she went through was pretty severe for her.
@Jimmy Carr Center She didn't though. Or did you forget that she couldn't accept what had happened until after facing Zaheer again later? Just because Toph helped guide her in taking out the last of the poison doesn't mean it magically fixes her mental trauma or all the personal issues she's been dealing with since the start. With Toph, that was fixing her physically though she was still rusty as hell going up against Kuvira as well as plagued by the mental stuff.
Jinora pulling back her hood and looking so much like Aang with the music swelling in the background and a colony of new airbenders chokes me up every time.
@Yafet Shibeshi How do you mean? They revived the airbending nation with the means they had and crowned a new airbending master, Aang would've been proud.
Yafet Shibeshi wth. tell me, mister, how would people get the ability to bend an element if not from the lion turtle? that would mean anyone would be able to learn how to bend just by visiting the original masters (bisons, dragons, badgermoles and the moon), which is obviously not true. people could kinda control the element (like summoning fire), but they were not able to fully dominate it, they learned that with the masters (after receiving the ability to bend from the lion turtles, of course). and don’t you think that if it was up to tenzin and his children to rebuild an entire nation, they would probably not succeed? i mean, it would be “easy” for them to be exterminated, since there would be just 5 of them. zaheer was already dangerous without airbending.
What got me was how realistically this season finale handled the extremely traumatic experience which Korra had to endure. Nearly dying, forced into the avatar state, poison forced into your body, violated. That isn't something that normal people are just okay with and get over immediately. It stays with you. They gave great care to portray a decidedly post-trauma Korra, which shapes her character through the final season.
That's the thing, I felt like Aang bounced back way to quick after getting shot with lighting. Sure he was out 2 weeks but he was pretty much 100% the next episode. Also the emotional baggage associated with a tramatic event like that wasn't really touched upon. It's something that was done much better in LOK.
Italian Supreme Yeah, that's because they were much more focused on making Korra a much more realistic and complex character, while Aang was more of a typical, likable hero who we love following the story with.
Shane basically nailed it, and is a lot like Korra. I'm sure she probably rather had die, then to be disabled and helpless. You'll see more of this struggle and growth in Book 4, and it's a huge part of why that's my favorite season.
I agree, 3 had the best fight scenes and "camera work" by far but 4 had emotions that even the original series can't really top (outside of Iroh's "Leaves from the vine" episode).
Italian Supreme Yes, the emotions and character growth is at an all time high in that season. I was really moved by it, and many fans were even inspired. Seeing Korra in that state, and how she comes out of it is some of the best storytelling you'll see in cartoons these days.
I love this discussion. Season 3 was very exciting and had very intense fight scenes, and I understand why so many fans say it’s their favorite but for me season 4 brought so much depth to Korras arc. It’s why Unimportant Zhao Fu Guard #1 (who was she, who knows right? 😜) is one of my fav antagonists. Everything she represents challenges Korra not just on a physical level but on the most emotional level.
@@franziskanerweissbiersfasf8145 They "need" to be bisexual for the same reason Mako "needs" to be straight. It doesn't hurt anyone, it's just how they all are.
@@franziskanerweissbiersfasf8145 There was no "need". They followed a well developed relationship and decided to make it romantic because it just worked really well. There's a lot of chemistry and good moments wiht Korra and Asami since beginning and I'm glad writers cought that and went with a really plausible continuation.
Lion_Turtle Anytime someone says "we can talk *or anything"* that means they're romantically interested in that person. They definitely caught on to it.
Lion_Turtle LOL yeah I noticed that too 😂 I think Shane and aaron are the only ones who get it.. btw they don't read the comments right anymore to avoid spoilers right?
Poor Eric being shouted down while being the only one who remembers the lore of Avatar at the table... Aang never could, and never *did* fly; maybe he did in the sense *we* attribute to the word, but not in the Avatar sense; the meaning of the word "fly" in Avatar can be found in the true masters of the art, the *Flying Bisons* we've known since episode 1. *They* are capable of flying, and you'll see that, even though they are *capable* of bending air, you never see a giant tornado sphere around them when they take off, *like Aang always had when he left the ground* . They just ignore the force of Gravity and take off effortlessly. That is the same thing Zaheer mastered, a technique that, like Tenzin said, hadn't been used by any human beings in thousands of years. By the definition of the words *in the Avatar World* , Aang could only glide; an enhanced gliding, thanks to his air bending, but gliding nevertheless.
Mordirit but there is that one episode in book 1 where they are going to the air temple where is that guy what developed flying ships and aang say when he saw people flying there that those are not airbenders they are not flying they are just gliding Ofc we know that airbenders fly so that they manipulate wind around their gliders so they do somethinf in between flying and gliding
Yes! And considering Zaheer's ability to fly had something to do with spirituality and cutting off his attachments to the world, it seems like perhaps anyone could achieve that even if they're not an airbender. Airbenders are probably just more likely to achieve it since their culture revolves around being spiritual. But definitely different from Aang since Aang used the elements to hold him up in the air, while Zaheer can simply do it on his own.
Mordirit 100% correct. I think the most comprehensive way to explain it is Zaheer had unlocked the ability of Unaided Flight. Technically, Aang needed a physical item to remain airborne, without his glider, he'd just start falling, as he has multiple times in the past when his glider was destroyed. Zaheer needed no item, he was ultimately effortlessly becoming airborne (or becoming the wind). The difference is execution, while they both are in the air, their means of staying airborne are fundamentally different...
If you are moving around in the air without a ship, bison or glider, you are flying. Aann didnt glide or fall he just fly. Zaheer can fly forever, Aang not but he can fly.
Rachito no Aang can glide. He doesn't have the ability to remain airborne without his GLIDEr and a consistent air current. Simply because he manipulates the air current, doesn't mean he's flying like an Air Bison or Zaheer flies... Aang is gliding, it looks like he's flying, the same way it looks like a flying squirrel is flying, but it's only gliding from tree to tree using the air current available to stay airborne long enough not to fall to the ground.
I love the symbolism of Zaheer being defeated using that chain, his whole pitch is that he wants freedom for everyone, yet he keeps capturing and imprisoning people! Korra slams him down to the ground with the symbol of his own hypocrisy.
Old comment but, i like how an anarchist and individualist was taken down by a group, literally by a community/nation. Showing the fault in his ideology. He says, a man's only duty is to himself and those he loves. He also hates those with too much power/authority over others. However eliminating governments only shifts that power. Long term the most powerful or richest would amass an army and set up their own 'kingdom'. Those who dont want to live in fear would submit to their protection and would be vulnerable to their exploitation. This is the problem with right wing anarchism. Power vacuum will always be filled. The Air Nation shows the power of creating a community. The group outmatched the individual who was stronger than any one of them. We can see the corrupted version of this in the Earth Kingdom. However if we as a community choose to balance that power as evenly as possible, then we can have a truly successful society.
This finale was so electrifying, groundbreaking, and breathtakingly beautiful!! ...I'll stop it now :P Korra vs Zaheer was very reminiscent of Aang vs Ozai except the roles were reversed! Zaheer's defeat was so poetic. Got taken down by airbenders and was chained and slammed back down to the earth! The music that was playing during the ceremony was called "Service and Sacrifice"! I love how it felt both hopeful and sad at the same time. We see how hopeful the future looks with the first airbendering master in a generation leading it, but we also feel sad because of Korra. Seeing Korra not being her usual spunky and fiery self really messed me up. Her sitting in that wheelchair looking depressed hurt my heart. It actually reminded me of what she first said at the start of the series "I'm the Avatar, and you gotta deal with it!" Looks like she's finally realizing the weight of those words. She is the Avatar, she does have to deal with all of this ...and she looks broken under the weight of it all... B1: Korra loses her bending B2: Korra loses her past lives B3: Korra loses her physical capabilities B4: ?? Damn man, stop having Korra lose something! Zaheer is flying like how air bison would fly. Aang flying in comparison to that was different. That's how I see it. Also, I wouldn't really say Bolin was that proficient with lavabending. Just looking at how Ghazan was completely dominating him kind of said as much. Bolin is still relatively new to it and is most likely still figuring things out. TRIAL BY FIRE!! Best way to learn lavabending ~ I always saw Mako using his lightning as a last resort kind of thing. I mean, did you see what his face looked like after electrocuting Ming Hua? It was the look of "I fuckin' killed someone..." xD
I actually do think this fight was "better," just because Aang vs. Ozai wasn't really a fight after a minute. It was a one-sided, terrifying chase. Haha
So glad you guys kept in the final shot because for me, it's one of the most powerful and hard-hitting shots in either ATLA or Korra, cause you have what supposed to be this happy ending with the villain being defeated and the optimism of the new airbenders contrasted with this depressing shot of Korra in a wheelchair crying. You can clearly see Korra has been through a lot and is struggling but in many ways I think that's what makes her such a compelling hero and character is that she's not perfect and she has to overcome these truly traumatic experiences on her journey as the avatar.
And btw based on what "flying" is in the world of Avatar, Aang never flew in ATLA, either with his glider or while he was in the Avatar State; Zaheer is the only one, as Tenzin said, to be able to fly in thousands of years.
The "flying power" is in reference to air benders' ability of pure spiritual energy to negate the effects of gravity around them. All other "sorta" flying powers you were discussing use thrust or momentum to counter gravity but it's still being affected on them. It's not "pure" flight in the way that Tenzin is talking about.
+Zeemod155 Yeah, remember _how_ Zaheer achieved flight... he had to let go of everything that tied him to the world... there's literally nothing holding him down.
when jinora gets her tattoos, I always feel a little sad and happy at the same time because she reminds me of aang :) edit: I'm at 53:30 and I am dying of laughter of how they call kuvira as buenavere and discuss her :'D
This finale was insane, it deserved the hour-long discussion, although I kinda wish you didn't spend so much time discussing "flying". To me, Zaheer is the only one who can truly fly by himself (no help from air, fire, tools or otherwise). Aang, Korra and others "fly" in the mundane sense, but they truly glide, levitate or just propel. Only Zaheer can fly. I love that Shane is such a fanboy of this series. I agree, this finale was so beautifully sad and hopeful at the same time. It's a piece of art, man. On imprisoning Zaheer, they really can't stop him going to the Spirit World without killing his body (think of Jinora after she couldn't return to her body). And yes, anyone who is spiritual can meditate into the Spirit World. Next season is crazy (even though I think S3 is the best of all 4). Can't wait to see you react to the next 2 episodes, they are something magnificent. See ya there!
lol I wouldn't call blasting yourself through the air with fire jets mundane. But yeah you're right. What Eric was trying to say was that Zahir has the power of flight and the others just do the act of flying.
I'll watch the discussion later, so I won't know if you guys talk about it, but just a reminder: The whole fight with Zaheer, even though she's the avatar and had help with Ravaa, that power and stength was all Korra! The other avatars had their past lives and their combined strength (as well as Ravaa, even if they didn't know) to help them in battles, but Korea's connection was severed in the last season. It was all her
The ending scene when Jinora gets her tattoos ALWAYS makes me tear up Shane... The swelling music, the fact that Jinora looks just like Aang with her Airbending Master tattoos, Korra’s anguished face, and the fact that the Air Nation is back... SO MANY EMOTIONS! It’s honestly the best scene in the whole series.
Well, here we go with me being emotional about this episode again, especially with everyone's and especially Shane's reaction being emotional at the end. Despite the long flying discussion, I really loved some of the thoughts and ideas you guys had. A lot of fun. Especially all the amazing fights in this episode. Can't wait for next book...
I love their reactions from the action and battles from this season. But I feel season 4 will open up so much more in-depth discussions. Season 4 is so rich with thematic exploration and character development. Korra in season 4 becomes the inspirational figure I still look up to till this day. I measure my mental health journey with hers.
Well... "Mercury poisoning is a type of metal poisoning due to mercury exposure.[3] Symptoms depend upon the type, dose, method, and duration of exposure.[3][4] They may include muscle weakness, poor coordination, numbness in the hands and feet, skin rashes, anxiety, memory problems, trouble speaking, trouble hearing, or trouble seeing.[1]" ...and in some cases of metal poisoning, seizures and paralysis. #Imnotcryingurcrying
@@johnnyallen3856 It's because platinum is the purest form of metal. Remember metalbending is a bending style based on bending the unrefined earth in metal. Platinum has no unrefined rock to bend in it. So there is no metal bender able to bend platinum as far as we know of.
I always thought of Bolin’s ability to lavabend was because he was basically a hybrid of an Earth-Bending Father and an Fire-Bending Mother. His brother is basically a fire bender so maybe such unique abilities are the product of genetic mixing of different element bending.
well, this season is over. the deaths were breath-taking, mind-blowing, shocking and earth-shattering :D fun fact: both combustion benders died in the 12th episode of the third season :O
Vincent Vialpando This person has said these dumb things in several threads already, dont worry about it. But nice fun fact. I didn’t realize that. God, I just wonder if P’Li and Mr. Sparky came from the same tribe or something.
I think a good way to think about the flying argument is that when "flying" Aang is the passenger (of his glider or air bubble) while Zaheer is the vehicle. Zaheer is just weightless, he balanced out his weight against gravity whereas Aang is constantly fighting his weight with airbending.
Specializator No my great great granchildren should be next avatar. I talk to Rava and she say she will think about it. I said come on I have raw power and I may killed so bad guys but come on it doesnt mean my great great granchildren are going do the same. Rava said no cause what I did. 😑😒
Specializator Who the fuck is Thoroyn. The next avatar are my great great grandchildren that are twins but I have a feeling one will be reborn as dark avatar.
Aaron is one huge ass troll. If some normal person unlocked the ability to bend all 4 elements, he'd act like it isn't special because Aang and Korra do it all of the time.
Flame fusion why? I dont know you or care and your opinion doesnt hold much weight to me. You put nothing of value instead of an immature comment that displays your immense inferiority complex. Maybe you should see a therapist and seek help
This totally reminded me of how beautiful the ending of season 3 was. That shot of Korra not smiling after this beautiful moment of Jinora getting her tattoos was just so hard hitting. It's such a flood of emotions of being happy that the air nation is safe and feeling truly helpless and broken for the first time ever. Zaheer didn't kill the avatar, but he made her feel obsolete when she's felt it's her destiny to be the one who can help others.
I really like how Jinora surpassed Aang as an airbender for their respective age. Aang was the youngest airbending master in history, receiving his tattoos at age 12, while Jinora receives her tattoos at age 11.
JP I wouldn't say surpass as an airbender considering that her projection ability is more spiritual than bending. Aang actually created a technique himself. Jinora kind of stumbled into one.
I think also (although im not 100% sure), that the new technique Jinora created was the tornado technique she created after amassing wind from the other airbenders, and that's what counted for her original technique, because it can be replicated, while im pretty sure the projection thing is just something unique to Jinora. But Tenzin gave her the tattoos after this battle specifically for a reason, and that was the high mastery she displayed to make that super tornado.
Don't know why I suddenly found myself thinking "wow, blind wave reacted to korra? Gonna start bingeing this" then realised halfway through book 1 that I'd already seen the reactions. Didn't stop me continuing the binge, though. Seems like such a strange thing to rewatch reaction videos, but turns out for good reactors.. I do so.
😂I was wondering why the video was so long lmao 🤣 then the minute they start debating about whether aaung can fly or not I knew why, was a great reaction but the discussion was jokes lmao 😂.
While the story was split into 4 individual books, the actual production of the show was split into two seasons. Nickelodeon first ordered half a season with book 1, which often happens with new shows. Before the first book even aired, the second book was ordered. Further down the line book 3 and 4 was ordered for the second season. Two 26 episodes seasons. Books 3 and 4 are more closely linked narratively than 1 and 2.
Poor Eric, haha! I UNDERSTOOD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING!! About the episode, wow, I forgot how great this finale was. It's so sad to see Korra face such traumatizing challenges. I also like Aang's arc more, but Korra was sooooo deep... ugh, I guess I like them both.
When I saw Jinora I started to cry. She looks so much like young Aang. He might be gone from the avatar cycle but he still lives on in his children and grandchildren hearts and souls.
Zaheer flying is a weightlessness like you mentioned. Its an air bending move in the same way Jinora's astral projection is a air bending move. Based on how its depicted and described its best not to think of it as physical bending but rather a spiritual bending connected to air, and it doesn't seem to have any strain on the person; air bending if you are powerful enough like an avatar can get you to fly by making yourself a tornado to ride in but that takes stamina like all bending while based on the legend we hear this does not, you are just now weightless.
9:00 - 9:11 Calvin: “Wait did I miss an episode?” Me: “Nope but you should definitely look for more of that” Aaron: “I like that they’re friends” Me: “ugh 😑, why is it always you?”
11:07 "That made me emotional and I have no idea why." Bro because it's one of the most emotionally-charged endings to any season in the Avatar series xD
Book One was supposed to be a standalone. Book Two, Three and Four were announced after Book One. But then Nickelodeon screwed with the scheduling with Book three. Book Four was exclusively online. So technically everyone was right. We knew there was suppose to be a Book Four. But at the same time, those not following the news and just watching on TV could have thought this was the series finale.
Dispaminite you do realize chapters 9-13 of Book 3 were ALSO exclusively online right? The bad scheduling of the first 8 chapters is why it moved online.
Dispaminite B4 was not exclusively online overall though. I believe a little more than halfway through the season (or was it near the end, I don't remember), Nick actually brought the show back on TV. They started airing episodes on Teen Nick or something. I remember because it actually made me mad when they basically went back on their whole "online exclusive only". Just goes to show they don't have the slightest clue on how to handle this show. Even at the very end of it (-.-)
JeremyNoir Productions Hmm, I remember some people saying it was back on TV for them and this was a few episodes before the show ended. Eh well, nonetheless it was still a very "make up your mind already" moment for me.
First thing I always do before watching the video is leaving a like, cause there is no way I can't. You guys are like a tv program for me that I must tune in every week and I get mad if I miss it. Thanks for the effort and for doing what you like!
i think Zaheer flying is due to the spiritual energy that airbenders have. It's become clear that some spiritual energy is tied to airbenders differently, as Jinora demonstrates with her astral projection, which she says is an airbending move.
Flight Wars is best Wars. Everything with the gliders was assisted flight at best and controlled falling at worst, and doesn't count in the way Zaheer's flight does. That said, Aang totally flew every time he went Avatar State. I guess Raava just has that as a power and everybody else prior to Laghima had no answer. Actual legit non-freakazoid airbenders achieving unassisted flight is something impressive, because otherwise it's something ONLY the Avatar can do.
Zaheer could only fly because he had let go of all earthly attachments; although I think it was more of a weightlessness that allowed him to fly. Airbender Avatars can't achieve what Zaheer does because of what Yangchen says to Aang in Atla Book Three: The Old Masters "many great and wise air nomads have detached themselves and achieved spiritual enlightenment. But the Avatar can never do it, because your sole duty is to the world..." In a way, Aang did achieve some spiritual enlightenment, because he had to let go of Katara to enter the Avatar State, but he can't let go of attachments to the world like Zaheer permanently, because he has to care about the world, and the world's affairs. Aang never flew, he used bending as propulsion. I cant remember every episode name, but I remember when he went into the avatar state Before the show started When he froze Appa and him into the iceberg, which is obviously just water bending Book One -when he fell into the water after his first brief fight with Zuko on the boat(episode 2 I think), he was able to propel himself out by using water bending -episode 3 or 4 I think, he created massive winds when he saw the body of Monk Gyatso, ultimately creating a powerful sphere of air encompassing him which was holding him up, like he did with the fight with Ozai (when he used all four elements) -Episode 8ish, He channeled Roku to get rid of the firebenders at the fire temple, which was just Roku blasting fire and lavabending to destroy the temple -"The Storm" he used the avatar state to round up everyone when they fell into the ocean in the storm. Again it was water bending to propel them -The season finale, he merges with La and waterbends to destroy the fire nation ships Book 2 -episode one: he entered the Avatar state after seeing Katara in danger; again he never flew, he used airbending to knock the general down, and rose in a tornado then crashed down and earthbended destroying the surrounding area. He rose in another air sphere(again he's not flying, his airbending is holding him up) before Roku took him -Episode 11: when he goes ape shit at the sand benders. Same thing though, he makes an air sphere which lifts him up, due to his airbending -season finale: this one I can kind of see the argument for flying, since it's not really clear what is holding him up. I think it's him airbending, due to his hand position similar to previous episodes when he was in the avatar state Book 3 Series finale: the air sphere is again how he propelled himself while chasing Ozai I don't know if other airbenders had the same ability to use airspheres to get around, as it's never indicated. I personally think no, that the airsphere was strictly only used by the avatar. But again, Aang never does fly, the air sphere is what propels him around, whereas Zaheer is literally floating and weightless. Personally my jaw dropped when Zaheer was flying, it was absolutely crazy
Matthew McBoyle Aaron is one huge ass troll. If some normal person unlocked the ability to bend all 4 elements, he'd act like it isn't special because Aang and Korra do it all of the time.
Ashley NL The problem for me was I didnt felt at all like zaheer lost all atatchments to „earth“ or whatever. just killing the woman he loved didnt make it believable. Did he really overcome his will to revenge her? did he overcome all his grief just in that moment or what? whitout that how is he now free from attachment. and even besides all that. Him carrieng the avatar away, planning to kill him, for what? obviously to change the world, not just that but the physical world as the avatar is about the physical world. and also his plannes to kill of all the rullers is about the physical world and it doenst just make him not attached to it, because he doesnt plannes to rule himself. thats not how it works. he‘s intervening because he thinks its better because he wants it to better which very much is to be attached to something. The way Zaheer managed to fly line you showed me how he got there makes me think that there shoud be a lot of airbending gurus that can do it and its not that rare at all. (sorry for bad english:)
@@mr.kingofphenomenal4629 He is able to use bending to propel himself, whereas Zaheer is flying because he doesn't have any earthly attachments. Which like I said previously isn't possible for the avatar. He uses air spheres to move around. When he enters the avatar state, he quasi flies, but again it's because he has the air sphere around him to propel him forward, which again I already pointed out in my comment and I quote "Aang never does fly, the air sphere is what propels him around, whereas Zaheer is literally floating and weightless. ". Please read my comment more carefully next time. Zaheer is the only person who is shown to fly without bending.
about the flying discussion, from a scientific approach i would say when zaheer recites ''enter the void'' it may have meant that he morphs his molecular structure into the molecular structure of air and he is just sliding through the air particle using inertia to move around the air. not gliding nor flying but becoming air itself
I think even though Amon liked about his past and being a bender, his motivations were still genuine. His father made him and his brother do reprehensible things and that caused Amon to see all bending as evil. He was taught from a young age to use bending to dominate others, so it's understandable that those experiences would color his views on all bending.
Yeah I don’t know what the heck Eric was thinking when he said Amon’s motivation was less genuine when he was revealed as a waterbended. His motivation never changed. Tarlokk literally says I think my brother truly believes bending is the root of all evil.
Oh yeah, there's quite a few parallels to AtLA that you guys touched upon in the discussion with the crystal cave fight, a group of people badly underestimating the power of Avatar State if you force it to activate, and that final fight between Korra/Zaheer... With Korra in a wheelchair and the Earth Kingdom in chaos, I'm sure there will be someone who steps up and reestablishes order and brings back balance to the EK until she can recover Looking forward to seeing how you guys react to book 4 :)
Aang was levitating himself through the air using the airbending technique that he commonly started up with whenever he went into the Avatar State. The circle of air bent around him is a crutch, he would not be able to go through the air like that without it. Zaheer's technique is often referred to as "unassisted flight," because he does not require any stepping stool to pull off levitation, he can just fly at will.
I hate being that guy who complains. What usually happens is I’ll type out the entire complain-y comment then delete it. But I don’t like how they spend almost all Korra discussions talking about last airbender. I understand there are decent comparisons to be made, I’m not upset about that. I’m just upset about the volume of it
Amon's motivation even after being revealed as a bender was still that he truly believed bending was the source of all evil in the world. He had such a horrible upbringing because of his father and because of bloodbending, that he grew to despise all bending. Like a trauma.
Heh, the ending is a little bittersweet in a way, Korra's heard every season from the villains that the world doesn't need the Avatar anymore, and now Korra is wheelchair-bound and the New Air Nation is taking her place restoring balance to the world.
The debate about flying was the best debate I have ever heard about anything lol and when Eric brought up Batman and Aaron's response was, "WHAT???" I lost my shit lol had me in tears. I fucking love you guys
I didn't take about ATLA nearly as much when I was watching Legend of Korra. All of the times they kept mentioning Zuko coming back as a major player or always referring to the kids of the previous characters as "you're the daughter of whoever" instead of praising these characters for what their own skills are and what they've done. This video was the worst case for that. You have this great bitter sweet ending. Shane is the only one paying attention while the rest talk over it and debate about the series finale of ATLA.
Zaheer was flying like the bison fly. Aang normally flew by bending around his glider to create lift. In the finale, his airbending was so powerful the moving air was like a solid lifting him up. Similar to how the fire-rocket shoe thing works, or the water pillar that Korra does a lot.
13:15 To what Shane said: The creators actually confirmed in an interview that the first three books are kind of meant like a trilogy, while the fourth book meant to fit in as what a book 4 would have been for The Last Airbender, to see where everyone's at after the initial story. th-cam.com/video/56_n5C33WpM/w-d-xo.htmlm42s
Eric is right, Aang was using air bending to float and have momentum, he wasn't "flying" he was using the elements to get momentum. Every time Aang went into the avatar state, he had huge waves of air surrounding him, keeping him off the ground. Fire benders did this all the time by shooting fire blast from their hands to push them forward or upwards.
Aang was encased in a giant ball of air while Zaheer became air itself to lift himself off the ground. You could say they are both technically flying but it's better to say that Aang is using his element to achieve flight while Zaheer is actually flying on his own. Like for example, people fly in planes everyday but that's not the same as flying like Superman.
By book 3 they had already confirmed they would have a next book, and that would be the end. There is so much I love about this season, and season 4 is even better.
Fernando arantes Book 4 is also my favorite season, but I'm pretty sure Book 3 is widely regarded as the best season. I just prefer Korra's arc and Kuvira as a villain in Book 4.
I prefer book 3 honestly, but book 4 goes back and forth in my list. I love her arc, but I dislike some of the choices of book 4 (not the last scene, I like it so very much)
Airbenders glide, we've seen characters (firebenders) sort of propel themselves through the air in a certain direction, Zaheer's flying was as easy and fluid for him as like, a fish swimming through water.
This was easily one of the best seasons of Avatar ever. And the ending is easily the most brutal endings of Avatar ever. Gotta love Korra Season 3. And Eric was right, the other 3 were absolutely demonstrably wrong. The reason why Zaheer was able to fly-fly was because he was able to let go his earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind when Pli got her head blown off. AANG wasn't able to let go his earthly tether 'coz Katara still existed and he still loved her.
Aang specifically states in the first episode of ATLA how his glider works. Something along the lines of being able to control the air currents around his glider.
Korra shedding a tear during the end was so impactful to me. There was no happy ending with her situation, she was broken. Not every story should be wrapped in a neat little bow tie
JustifiedMayhem32 A shame none of the reactors seemed to appreciate that moment.
@Jimmy Carr Center Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, as well as a near death experience and the effects of poisoning. Any realistic person would be heavily impacted with nearly dying and being reduced to a wheelchair when they were an athletic fighter.
@Jimmy Carr Center Yeah, but still what she went through here was pretty extremem. She was poisoned, mentally and physically tortured because of said poison, suffocated, nearly died, and then confined to a wheelchair in the end. All of it had to have some kind of immense impact on her. You don't just go through all of that and not come out of it unscathed. Even if one eventually physically heals from it, they'll never be the same mentally.
@Jimmy Carr Center In ATLA, they never really focused heavily on the trauma aspect of that though. In LOK, it does which I appreciate since most kid's cartoon would just brush that kind of thing aside. Also, why is it unrealistic that trauma would last that long? You don't know how each person may deal with it. Just look at soldiers, rape victims, abuse victims, or anyone who experienced severe trauma. There are those who recover after a few years and those who never really do. And even if those that do recover, they are forever changed. So I don't get what's the problem with Korra here. What she went through was pretty severe for her.
@Jimmy Carr Center She didn't though. Or did you forget that she couldn't accept what had happened until after facing Zaheer again later? Just because Toph helped guide her in taking out the last of the poison doesn't mean it magically fixes her mental trauma or all the personal issues she's been dealing with since the start.
With Toph, that was fixing her physically though she was still rusty as hell going up against Kuvira as well as plagued by the mental stuff.
Jinora pulling back her hood and looking so much like Aang with the music swelling in the background and a colony of new airbenders chokes me up every time.
Dat "Service and Sacrifice" tho...
Todd Simmons same here
You and everyone else except the guys we're all watching react. Pity.
I always cry when they reveal Jinora with her tattoos and the music swells. Aang's legacy lives on.
RubyD what about Korra in pain
RubyD Hey :) you always celebrate the achievements of our youths no matter what you're going through.
@Yafet Shibeshi How do you mean? They revived the airbending nation with the means they had and crowned a new airbending master, Aang would've been proud.
RubyD same here, i teared up again
Yafet Shibeshi wth. tell me, mister, how would people get the ability to bend an element if not from the lion turtle? that would mean anyone would be able to learn how to bend just by visiting the original masters (bisons, dragons, badgermoles and the moon), which is obviously not true. people could kinda control the element (like summoning fire), but they were not able to fully dominate it, they learned that with the masters (after receiving the ability to bend from the lion turtles, of course). and don’t you think that if it was up to tenzin and his children to rebuild an entire nation, they would probably not succeed? i mean, it would be “easy” for them to be exterminated, since there would be just 5 of them. zaheer was already dangerous without airbending.
The Earth Queen's death was "breathtaking"
P'Li's death was "mind blowing"
Ming Hua's death was "shocking"
Ghazan's death was "Earth Shattering"
LMAO
made. my. day.
knowledge seeker Lol
I love my fandom. These cheesy jokes will never end...as they shouldn’t! 😂
knowledge seeker I’m impressed lmao
me: "57 minutes for Legend of Korra? That's REALLY unusual."
1:00 *Blind Wave starts discussing Flight VS Gliding*
me: "I see it now."
SUPERFIGHT!
Eric: “that’s not flying! That’s.... falling with style”
I wanted him to say that so badly lol
Aaron :thata flying
Eric:im just trying to imagine Aaron in a plane, look I'm flying 😂😂😂
Katherine Avatar 1:40
Floating should be the right term. I wonder why they didn't call it that way
I was thinking
"that's not flying, that's gliding with style"
Mercury poisoning often causes a form of long term depression by stopping the brain from producing a certain chemical. I can't remember which.
Blueblitz It seems that the writers did their research! That's awesome
I think the chemical is serotonin, but don’t quote me on that.
LVision17 Looking it up, it’s a combination of serotonin dopamine, oxytocin, and a bunch of different endorphins
@@liamgreenwood3481 So basically all the nuerochemicals responsible for being a happy healthy human being.
is it the one that produces instinct or something like that
yep nothing happened with that guard, they properly never gunna bring her up again...
Dale Kruithoff so sarcasm by definition is
NOOOOOO
Dale Kruithoff *woosh*
your sarcasm detector seems to be defective
c32 Right over his head
What got me was how realistically this season finale handled the extremely traumatic experience which Korra had to endure. Nearly dying, forced into the avatar state, poison forced into your body, violated. That isn't something that normal people are just okay with and get over immediately. It stays with you. They gave great care to portray a decidedly post-trauma Korra, which shapes her character through the final season.
That's the thing, I felt like Aang bounced back way to quick after getting shot with lighting. Sure he was out 2 weeks but he was pretty much 100% the next episode. Also the emotional baggage associated with a tramatic event like that wasn't really touched upon. It's something that was done much better in LOK.
Italian Supreme Yeah, that's because they were much more focused on making Korra a much more realistic and complex character, while Aang was more of a typical, likable hero who we love following the story with.
Innocent Dude And I will always love Aang for the sort of avatar he was and I love Korra for the different sort of avatar and person she was.
Jacknasius Oh yeah, I definitely love them both too. Both are great characters, and some of the most legendary Avatars.
Well, the thing is, why is it this that causes her to have PTSD and not what Unalaq\Vaatu did to her? Which I would argue is worse.
Shane basically nailed it, and is a lot like Korra. I'm sure she probably rather had die, then to be disabled and helpless. You'll see more of this struggle and growth in Book 4, and it's a huge part of why that's my favorite season.
I agree, 3 had the best fight scenes and "camera work" by far but 4 had emotions that even the original series can't really top (outside of Iroh's "Leaves from the vine" episode).
Italian Supreme Yes, the emotions and character growth is at an all time high in that season. I was really moved by it, and many fans were even inspired. Seeing Korra in that state, and how she comes out of it is some of the best storytelling you'll see in cartoons these days.
"Korra Alone" is a masterpiece. Breaks my heart every time.
Marie Chambe Same
I love this discussion. Season 3 was very exciting and had very intense fight scenes, and I understand why so many fans say it’s their favorite but for me season 4 brought so much depth to Korras arc. It’s why Unimportant Zhao Fu Guard #1 (who was she, who knows right? 😜) is one of my fav antagonists. Everything she represents challenges Korra not just on a physical level but on the most emotional level.
I love how at 9:07, Shane and Aaron looked at each other and were mentally like,
Shane: "Gay?"
Aaron: "Definitely Gay!"
Too bad they were bogged down arguing about flight, and they never got around to mentioning it.
i'm the 101st like
still dont understand the need of the directors for the Avatar to be a lesbian. No one asked for this, young kids at the very last
@@franziskanerweissbiersfasf8145 They "need" to be bisexual for the same reason Mako "needs" to be straight. It doesn't hurt anyone, it's just how they all are.
@@franziskanerweissbiersfasf8145 There was no "need". They followed a well developed relationship and decided to make it romantic because it just worked really well. There's a lot of chemistry and good moments wiht Korra and Asami since beginning and I'm glad writers cought that and went with a really plausible continuation.
Shane and Aaron. That look when Asami was talking to Korra in the wheelchair. You guys caught it.
Lion_Turtle Anytime someone says "we can talk *or anything"* that means they're romantically interested in that person. They definitely caught on to it.
Lol fr Calvin was like did I miss an episode
Lion_Turtle LOL yeah I noticed that too 😂 I think Shane and aaron are the only ones who get it.. btw they don't read the comments right anymore to avoid spoilers right?
Innocent Dude lol I raise an eyebrow when I first saw the "or anything.." part 😏
Black November No they don't read em.
Korra is saved by the very nation she helped resurrect. I love it.
Poor Eric being shouted down while being the only one who remembers the lore of Avatar at the table...
Aang never could, and never *did* fly; maybe he did in the sense *we* attribute to the word, but not in the Avatar sense; the meaning of the word "fly" in Avatar can be found in the true masters of the art, the *Flying Bisons* we've known since episode 1.
*They* are capable of flying, and you'll see that, even though they are *capable* of bending air, you never see a giant tornado sphere around them when they take off, *like Aang always had when he left the ground* . They just ignore the force of Gravity and take off effortlessly.
That is the same thing Zaheer mastered, a technique that, like Tenzin said, hadn't been used by any human beings in thousands of years.
By the definition of the words *in the Avatar World* , Aang could only glide; an enhanced gliding, thanks to his air bending, but gliding nevertheless.
Mordirit but there is that one episode in book 1 where they are going to the air temple where is that guy what developed flying ships and aang say when he saw people flying there that those are not airbenders they are not flying they are just gliding
Ofc we know that airbenders fly so that they manipulate wind around their gliders so they do somethinf in between flying and gliding
Yes! And considering Zaheer's ability to fly had something to do with spirituality and cutting off his attachments to the world, it seems like perhaps anyone could achieve that even if they're not an airbender. Airbenders are probably just more likely to achieve it since their culture revolves around being spiritual. But definitely different from Aang since Aang used the elements to hold him up in the air, while Zaheer can simply do it on his own.
Mordirit 100% correct. I think the most comprehensive way to explain it is Zaheer had unlocked the ability of Unaided Flight. Technically, Aang needed a physical item to remain airborne, without his glider, he'd just start falling, as he has multiple times in the past when his glider was destroyed.
Zaheer needed no item, he was ultimately effortlessly becoming airborne (or becoming the wind). The difference is execution, while they both are in the air, their means of staying airborne are fundamentally different...
If you are moving around in the air without a ship, bison or glider, you are flying. Aann didnt glide or fall he just fly. Zaheer can fly forever, Aang not but he can fly.
Rachito no Aang can glide. He doesn't have the ability to remain airborne without his GLIDEr and a consistent air current. Simply because he manipulates the air current, doesn't mean he's flying like an Air Bison or Zaheer flies...
Aang is gliding, it looks like he's flying, the same way it looks like a flying squirrel is flying, but it's only gliding from tree to tree using the air current available to stay airborne long enough not to fall to the ground.
Careful Jinora, your Aang is showing ;-)
Raptorus77 WHERE?!
Those strong genes tho
Ian Kevin "the ember island players" is one of my fav episodes 😂😂
Ian Kevin 😂
I love the symbolism of Zaheer being defeated using that chain, his whole pitch is that he wants freedom for everyone, yet he keeps capturing and imprisoning people!
Korra slams him down to the ground with the symbol of his own hypocrisy.
Old comment but, i like how an anarchist and individualist was taken down by a group, literally by a community/nation. Showing the fault in his ideology.
He says, a man's only duty is to himself and those he loves. He also hates those with too much power/authority over others. However eliminating governments only shifts that power. Long term the most powerful or richest would amass an army and set up their own 'kingdom'. Those who dont want to live in fear would submit to their protection and would be vulnerable to their exploitation. This is the problem with right wing anarchism. Power vacuum will always be filled.
The Air Nation shows the power of creating a community. The group outmatched the individual who was stronger than any one of them. We can see the corrupted version of this in the Earth Kingdom. However if we as a community choose to balance that power as evenly as possible, then we can have a truly successful society.
This finale was so electrifying, groundbreaking, and breathtakingly beautiful!! ...I'll stop it now :P
Korra vs Zaheer was very reminiscent of Aang vs Ozai except the roles were reversed!
Zaheer's defeat was so poetic. Got taken down by airbenders and was chained and slammed back down to the earth!
The music that was playing during the ceremony was called "Service and Sacrifice"! I love how it felt both hopeful and sad at the same time. We see how hopeful the future looks with the first airbendering master in a generation leading it, but we also feel sad because of Korra. Seeing Korra not being her usual spunky and fiery self really messed me up. Her sitting in that wheelchair looking depressed hurt my heart. It actually reminded me of what she first said at the start of the series "I'm the Avatar, and you gotta deal with it!" Looks like she's finally realizing the weight of those words. She is the Avatar, she does have to deal with all of this ...and she looks broken under the weight of it all...
B1: Korra loses her bending
B2: Korra loses her past lives
B3: Korra loses her physical capabilities
B4: ??
Damn man, stop having Korra lose something!
Zaheer is flying like how air bison would fly. Aang flying in comparison to that was different. That's how I see it.
Also, I wouldn't really say Bolin was that proficient with lavabending. Just looking at how Ghazan was completely dominating him kind of said as much. Bolin is still relatively new to it and is most likely still figuring things out. TRIAL BY FIRE!! Best way to learn lavabending ~
I always saw Mako using his lightning as a last resort kind of thing. I mean, did you see what his face looked like after electrocuting Ming Hua? It was the look of "I fuckin' killed someone..." xD
Lalisa T agree, agree, and especially agree about mako
Completely agree.
B4: Korra loses her heterosexuality
I actually do think this fight was "better," just because Aang vs. Ozai wasn't really a fight after a minute. It was a one-sided, terrifying chase. Haha
Juvia Fullbuster you don't "lose" your heterosexuality. She was never heterosexual to begin with
DUDE, their faces during that Korrasami moment...they were thinking it
KbanjoK Shane and Aarons minds definitely went there.
KbanjoK I mean hey... 😏 I was thinking it the first time I see it too
Ramón González got a bit of repressed anger there
Ramón González I don't think it's new :] they were pretty close since the beginning of book 3..
Ramón González I felt like there was foreshadowing. Enough to hint at it but not too much to beat our heads in.
Nickelodeon- where death is ok as long as you don’t see it or talk about it 🤣
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure we saw Ming-Wa die.
we saw Aamon get blown up, we watched the air be pulled out of the earth queens body, we saw Ming-Wa be crisped idk it was all pretty on screen lol
@@bmgfrosty7089 We saw Ma Wings corpse
@@bmgfrosty7089 6:16 Seems like a corpse to me
I don’t know it was pretty unclear.
- Sokka, Ember Island Players
So glad you guys kept in the final shot because for me, it's one of the most powerful and hard-hitting shots in either ATLA or Korra, cause you have what supposed to be this happy ending with the villain being defeated and the optimism of the new airbenders contrasted with this depressing shot of Korra in a wheelchair crying. You can clearly see Korra has been through a lot and is struggling but in many ways I think that's what makes her such a compelling hero and character is that she's not perfect and she has to overcome these truly traumatic experiences on her journey as the avatar.
And btw based on what "flying" is in the world of Avatar, Aang never flew in ATLA, either with his glider or while he was in the Avatar State; Zaheer is the only one, as Tenzin said, to be able to fly in thousands of years.
I think Shane in particular is gonna like book 4
why?
The whole lesbian thing probably
I doubt, cause nickelodean forbid any actual clear lesbian stuff to be shown. All they could do was hint barely at it.
superotakushow you right, but read the turf wars books, is like a short season after book 4. And is more detailed about the lesbian stuff.
How detailed? Asking for a friend
Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void, empty, and become wind.
Cuts rope tied to my foot, turns on a fan, barfs, then does the Squidward Dance.
The "flying power" is in reference to air benders' ability of pure spiritual energy to negate the effects of gravity around them. All other "sorta" flying powers you were discussing use thrust or momentum to counter gravity but it's still being affected on them. It's not "pure" flight in the way that Tenzin is talking about.
+Zeemod155 Yeah, remember _how_ Zaheer achieved flight... he had to let go of everything that tied him to the world... there's literally nothing holding him down.
+Aquaintence Buddy _Exactly!_ It's _exactly_ like the sky bisons!
Marc B. Poblet Exactly. That's why we don't see Tenzin or any other airbender flying around.
I think it's like how all the other bending disciplines have side elements, is flying airbending's side element
Dario Hope that and Astral projection.
Who's ready for Book 4? ;)
All hail the great uniter!
group C with all the new reactors to LOK???
I am
Avatar Wan TV yup that lesbian ending was so unexpected XDD, im reading the turf wars books and fapping right now, thanks korrasami XDD.
DINKLEBERG !!!! You got it :D
when jinora gets her tattoos, I always feel a little sad and happy at the same time because she reminds me of aang :)
edit: I'm at 53:30 and I am dying of laughter of how they call kuvira as buenavere and discuss her :'D
25:35 to skip past the drawn out argument on whether Aang truly flew 'like Zaheer', once they start on it after the reaction.
Talisguy interesting. He also had to completely disconnect from the world and katara then, i.e. "let go his earthly tether"
It was more hovering...
ObligedUniform fucking idiot. Is this your first time seeing an actual debate of logic?
MrShaiya96 you're just adorable.
This finale was insane, it deserved the hour-long discussion, although I kinda wish you didn't spend so much time discussing "flying". To me, Zaheer is the only one who can truly fly by himself (no help from air, fire, tools or otherwise). Aang, Korra and others "fly" in the mundane sense, but they truly glide, levitate or just propel. Only Zaheer can fly.
I love that Shane is such a fanboy of this series. I agree, this finale was so beautifully sad and hopeful at the same time. It's a piece of art, man. On imprisoning Zaheer, they really can't stop him going to the Spirit World without killing his body (think of Jinora after she couldn't return to her body). And yes, anyone who is spiritual can meditate into the Spirit World.
Next season is crazy (even though I think S3 is the best of all 4). Can't wait to see you react to the next 2 episodes, they are something magnificent. See ya there!
And, lol, at 6:07 their jaws drop with perfect synchrony :DD
It's weird because Shane reacts the least to things but seems to like Korra more than the other 3.
lol I wouldn't call blasting yourself through the air with fire jets mundane. But yeah you're right. What Eric was trying to say was that Zahir has the power of flight and the others just do the act of flying.
ControvT fucking idiot. Is this your first time seeing an actual debate of logic?
Lmao they deadass did the "x minutes later" spongebob card to skip that dumbass flight conversation. XD
i like how Shane very quickly picked up on the subtle hints leading to season four's ending...
I'll watch the discussion later, so I won't know if you guys talk about it, but just a reminder:
The whole fight with Zaheer, even though she's the avatar and had help with Ravaa, that power and stength was all Korra!
The other avatars had their past lives and their combined strength (as well as Ravaa, even if they didn't know) to help them in battles, but Korea's connection was severed in the last season. It was all her
The ending scene when Jinora gets her tattoos ALWAYS makes me tear up Shane...
The swelling music, the fact that Jinora looks just like Aang with her Airbending Master tattoos, Korra’s anguished face, and the fact that the Air Nation is back... SO MANY EMOTIONS!
It’s honestly the best scene in the whole series.
Well, here we go with me being emotional about this episode again, especially with everyone's and especially Shane's reaction being emotional at the end.
Despite the long flying discussion, I really loved some of the thoughts and ideas you guys had. A lot of fun. Especially all the amazing fights in this episode. Can't wait for next book...
Poor Korra, i obviously can't but i try to understand what she's going through. It really sucks.
I love their reactions from the action and battles from this season. But I feel season 4 will open up so much more in-depth discussions. Season 4 is so rich with thematic exploration and character development. Korra in season 4 becomes the inspirational figure I still look up to till this day. I measure my mental health journey with hers.
Well...
"Mercury poisoning is a type of metal poisoning due to mercury exposure.[3] Symptoms depend upon the type, dose, method, and duration of exposure.[3][4] They may include muscle weakness, poor coordination, numbness in the hands and feet, skin rashes, anxiety, memory problems, trouble speaking, trouble hearing, or trouble seeing.[1]"
...and in some cases of metal poisoning, seizures and paralysis.
#Imnotcryingurcrying
The Anafront why did Zaheer mention platinum bending though
johnny allen for the chains. That she couldn’t bend the chains, Cz they’re platinum
@@johnnyallen3856 It's because platinum is the purest form of metal. Remember metalbending is a bending style based on bending the unrefined earth in metal. Platinum has no unrefined rock to bend in it. So there is no metal bender able to bend platinum as far as we know of.
I always thought of Bolin’s ability to lavabend was because he was basically a hybrid of an Earth-Bending Father and an Fire-Bending Mother. His brother is basically a fire bender so maybe such unique abilities are the product of genetic mixing of different element bending.
It’s Kuvira’s time to shine
Indeed.
Don't watch the trailer for season 4. It would spoiler a load of stuff and you will be more like a hell of surprised what will happen.
Chriss That trailer gives me goosebumps though.
In my opinion the best season.
Chriss Same opinion
The ending is perfect, right and deserved in so many ways
why? It's the greatest trailer for the whole series including ATLA. Worth watching blind.
well, this season is over. the deaths were breath-taking, mind-blowing, shocking and earth-shattering :D
fun fact: both combustion benders died in the 12th episode of the third season
:O
Vincent Vialpando This person has said these dumb things in several threads already, dont worry about it. But nice fun fact. I didn’t realize that. God, I just wonder if P’Li and Mr. Sparky came from the same tribe or something.
aeris44 okay thanks man, good to know!
yeah this is really interesting. I just love the series so much
I think a good way to think about the flying argument is that when "flying" Aang is the passenger (of his glider or air bubble) while Zaheer is the vehicle. Zaheer is just weightless, he balanced out his weight against gravity whereas Aang is constantly fighting his weight with airbending.
Crazy how far you guys have come through these series. Can't wait to watch the discussion
Balance, here we come! I know we have an entire book left but, I wonder what's gonna replace Korra when it's over😶
voltron!
vld i meant
Specializator No my great great granchildren should be next avatar. I talk to Rava and she say she will think about it. I said come on I have raw power and I may killed so bad guys but come on it doesnt mean my great great granchildren are going do the same. Rava said no cause what I did. 😑😒
Specializator Who the fuck is Thoroyn. The next avatar are my great great grandchildren that are twins but I have a feeling one will be reborn as dark avatar.
Specializator You know Aang isnt the only avatar to take away bending Korra has it to and Korra can bend pure energy from hand.
Aaron is one huge ass troll. If some normal person unlocked the ability to bend all 4 elements, he'd act like it isn't special because Aang and Korra do it all of the time.
Crystalia Amaquelin, the avatar of the MCU
Why are you so pissed?
And that's what's great about him
Flame fusion why? I dont know you or care and your opinion doesnt hold much weight to me. You put nothing of value instead of an immature comment that displays your immense inferiority complex. Maybe you should see a therapist and seek help
Ethio Samurai Its just a prank. The camera is over there.
This totally reminded me of how beautiful the ending of season 3 was. That shot of Korra not smiling after this beautiful moment of Jinora getting her tattoos was just so hard hitting. It's such a flood of emotions of being happy that the air nation is safe and feeling truly helpless and broken for the first time ever. Zaheer didn't kill the avatar, but he made her feel obsolete when she's felt it's her destiny to be the one who can help others.
*Looks at length*
OMG YES
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Holy shit. This is great
practically a podcast
I really like how Jinora surpassed Aang as an airbender for their respective age. Aang was the youngest airbending master in history, receiving his tattoos at age 12, while Jinora receives her tattoos at age 11.
JP I wouldn't say surpass as an airbender considering that her projection ability is more spiritual than bending. Aang actually created a technique himself. Jinora kind of stumbled into one.
za21 true, but I couldn't think of better language at the moment
While she did stumble into it, she did perfect it and made it her own. Why wouldn't you if you're naturally talented at something?
I think also (although im not 100% sure), that the new technique Jinora created was the tornado technique she created after amassing wind from the other airbenders, and that's what counted for her original technique, because it can be replicated, while im pretty sure the projection thing is just something unique to Jinora. But Tenzin gave her the tattoos after this battle specifically for a reason, and that was the high mastery she displayed to make that super tornado.
We actually don't know when Aang got his tatoos.
The passing of the hug of Jinora to her dad, to the face of Korra crying, look at the face of Eric... from happy to sad
Don't know why I suddenly found myself thinking "wow, blind wave reacted to korra? Gonna start bingeing this" then realised halfway through book 1 that I'd already seen the reactions. Didn't stop me continuing the binge, though. Seems like such a strange thing to rewatch reaction videos, but turns out for good reactors.. I do so.
The fact that they discussed about one thing in over an hour when they could look it up will forever be the best part
😂I was wondering why the video was so long lmao 🤣 then the minute they start debating about whether aaung can fly or not I knew why, was a great reaction but the discussion was jokes lmao 😂.
Jinora's baptism by incense and air makes me tear up :')
Shoe trees...
While the story was split into 4 individual books, the actual production of the show was split into two seasons. Nickelodeon first ordered half a season with book 1, which often happens with new shows. Before the first book even aired, the second book was ordered. Further down the line book 3 and 4 was ordered for the second season. Two 26 episodes seasons. Books 3 and 4 are more closely linked narratively than 1 and 2.
Poor Eric, haha! I UNDERSTOOD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING!!
About the episode, wow, I forgot how great this finale was. It's so sad to see Korra face such traumatizing challenges. I also like Aang's arc more, but Korra was sooooo deep... ugh, I guess I like them both.
When I saw Jinora I started to cry. She looks so much like young Aang. He might be gone from the avatar cycle but he still lives on in his children and grandchildren hearts and souls.
Zaheer flying is a weightlessness like you mentioned. Its an air bending move in the same way Jinora's astral projection is a air bending move. Based on how its depicted and described its best not to think of it as physical bending but rather a spiritual bending connected to air, and it doesn't seem to have any strain on the person; air bending if you are powerful enough like an avatar can get you to fly by making yourself a tornado to ride in but that takes stamina like all bending while based on the legend we hear this does not, you are just now weightless.
7:47 HERE'S YOUR EARTHLY TETHER
9:00 - 9:11
Calvin:
“Wait did I miss an episode?”
Me: “Nope but you should definitely look for more of that”
Aaron:
“I like that they’re friends”
Me:
“ugh 😑, why is it always you?”
11:07 "That made me emotional and I have no idea why." Bro because it's one of the most emotionally-charged endings to any season in the Avatar series xD
Zahir is flying like Appa!
Book One was supposed to be a standalone. Book Two, Three and Four were announced after Book One. But then Nickelodeon screwed with the scheduling with Book three. Book Four was exclusively online. So technically everyone was right. We knew there was suppose to be a Book Four. But at the same time, those not following the news and just watching on TV could have thought this was the series finale.
Dispaminite you do realize chapters 9-13 of Book 3 were ALSO exclusively online right? The bad scheduling of the first 8 chapters is why it moved online.
JeremyNoir Productions also the leaking of episodes 3-6
Dispaminite B4 was not exclusively online overall though. I believe a little more than halfway through the season (or was it near the end, I don't remember), Nick actually brought the show back on TV. They started airing episodes on Teen Nick or something.
I remember because it actually made me mad when they basically went back on their whole "online exclusive only". Just goes to show they don't have the slightest clue on how to handle this show. Even at the very end of it (-.-)
Lalisa T actually Book 4 was online exclusive. They did show episodes on Nicktoons but only after the series finale premiered on Nick.com.
JeremyNoir Productions Hmm, I remember some people saying it was back on TV for them and this was a few episodes before the show ended.
Eh well, nonetheless it was still a very "make up your mind already" moment for me.
Aaron: "She's breaking her chains"
Calvin: "Mhysa!"
LOL XD
In a previous episode Zaheer called the ability "weightlessness". There's your answer.
First thing I always do before watching the video is leaving a like, cause there is no way I can't. You guys are like a tv program for me that I must tune in every week and I get mad if I miss it. Thanks for the effort and for doing what you like!
Jason Christ I was starting to go insane over the flight argument xD
i think Zaheer flying is due to the spiritual energy that airbenders have. It's become clear that some spiritual energy is tied to airbenders differently, as Jinora demonstrates with her astral projection, which she says is an airbending move.
Flight Wars is best Wars.
Everything with the gliders was assisted flight at best and controlled falling at worst, and doesn't count in the way Zaheer's flight does. That said, Aang totally flew every time he went Avatar State. I guess Raava just has that as a power and everybody else prior to Laghima had no answer. Actual legit non-freakazoid airbenders achieving unassisted flight is something impressive, because otherwise it's something ONLY the Avatar can do.
Zaheer could only fly because he had let go of all earthly attachments; although I think it was more of a weightlessness that allowed him to fly. Airbender Avatars can't achieve what Zaheer does because of what Yangchen says to Aang in Atla Book Three: The Old Masters "many great and wise air nomads have detached themselves and achieved spiritual enlightenment. But the Avatar can never do it, because your sole duty is to the world..." In a way, Aang did achieve some spiritual enlightenment, because he had to let go of Katara to enter the Avatar State, but he can't let go of attachments to the world like Zaheer permanently, because he has to care about the world, and the world's affairs.
Aang never flew, he used bending as propulsion. I cant remember every episode name, but I remember when he went into the avatar state
Before the show started
When he froze Appa and him into the iceberg, which is obviously just water bending
Book One
-when he fell into the water after his first brief fight with Zuko on the boat(episode 2 I think), he was able to propel himself out by using water bending
-episode 3 or 4 I think, he created massive winds when he saw the body of Monk Gyatso, ultimately creating a powerful sphere of air encompassing him which was holding him up, like he did with the fight with Ozai (when he used all four elements)
-Episode 8ish, He channeled Roku to get rid of the firebenders at the fire temple, which was just Roku blasting fire and lavabending to destroy the temple
-"The Storm" he used the avatar state to round up everyone when they fell into the ocean in the storm. Again it was water bending to propel them
-The season finale, he merges with La and waterbends to destroy the fire nation ships
Book 2
-episode one: he entered the Avatar state after seeing Katara in danger; again he never flew, he used airbending to knock the general down, and rose in a tornado then crashed down and earthbended destroying the surrounding area. He rose in another air sphere(again he's not flying, his airbending is holding him up) before Roku took him
-Episode 11: when he goes ape shit at the sand benders. Same thing though, he makes an air sphere which lifts him up, due to his airbending
-season finale: this one I can kind of see the argument for flying, since it's not really clear what is holding him up. I think it's him airbending, due to his hand position similar to previous episodes when he was in the avatar state
Book 3
Series finale: the air sphere is again how he propelled himself while chasing Ozai
I don't know if other airbenders had the same ability to use airspheres to get around, as it's never indicated. I personally think no, that the airsphere was strictly only used by the avatar. But again, Aang never does fly, the air sphere is what propels him around, whereas Zaheer is literally floating and weightless.
Personally my jaw dropped when Zaheer was flying, it was absolutely crazy
Matthew McBoyle Aaron is one huge ass troll. If some normal person unlocked the ability to bend all 4 elements, he'd act like it isn't special because Aang and Korra do it all of the time.
Ashley NL
The problem for me was I didnt felt at all like zaheer lost all atatchments to „earth“ or whatever. just killing the woman he loved didnt make it believable. Did he really overcome his will to revenge her? did he overcome all his grief just in that moment or what? whitout that how is he now free from attachment.
and even besides all that. Him carrieng the avatar away, planning to kill him, for what? obviously to change the world, not just that but the physical world as the avatar is about the physical world. and also his plannes to kill of all the rullers is about the physical world and it doenst just make him not attached to it, because he doesnt plannes to rule himself. thats not how it works. he‘s intervening because he thinks its better because he wants it to better which very much is to be attached to something.
The way Zaheer managed to fly line you showed me how he got there makes me think that there shoud be a lot of airbending gurus that can do it and its not that rare at all.
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@@ashleynl6731 Aang can't fly. He can only glide with his glider. Just like Korra did in book 3.
@@mr.kingofphenomenal4629 He is able to use bending to propel himself, whereas Zaheer is flying because he doesn't have any earthly attachments. Which like I said previously isn't possible for the avatar. He uses air spheres to move around. When he enters the avatar state, he quasi flies, but again it's because he has the air sphere around him to propel him forward, which again I already pointed out in my comment and I quote "Aang never does fly, the air sphere is what propels him around, whereas Zaheer is literally floating and weightless. ". Please read my comment more carefully next time. Zaheer is the only person who is shown to fly without bending.
I love you guys...but going into the 10th hour of the 'flying argument' was BRUTAL!!! XD
Mako has generated lightning five times. Twice in Book 1. Once near the end of Book 2. Once in the end of Book 3. Once in the end of Book 4.
Shane fights like Zuko, with HONOR!
Loved Shane's reaction.
about the flying discussion, from a scientific approach i would say when zaheer recites ''enter the void'' it may have meant that he morphs his molecular structure into the molecular structure of air and he is just sliding through the air particle using inertia to move around the air. not gliding nor flying but becoming air itself
necroboi Thats what I also thought.
Just noticed the crazy foreshadowing this episode
Two years later and I’m still dying of laughter from their “flying discussion” XD
I think even though Amon liked about his past and being a bender, his motivations were still genuine. His father made him and his brother do reprehensible things and that caused Amon to see all bending as evil. He was taught from a young age to use bending to dominate others, so it's understandable that those experiences would color his views on all bending.
Yeah I don’t know what the heck Eric was thinking when he said Amon’s motivation was less genuine when he was revealed as a waterbended. His motivation never changed. Tarlokk literally says I think my brother truly believes bending is the root of all evil.
Amazing discussion. You guys really are perceptive and touch on the topics that I want to hear mulled over. Great stuff!
Oh yeah, there's quite a few parallels to AtLA that you guys touched upon in the discussion with the crystal cave fight, a group of people badly underestimating the power of Avatar State if you force it to activate, and that final fight between Korra/Zaheer...
With Korra in a wheelchair and the Earth Kingdom in chaos, I'm sure there will be someone who steps up and reestablishes order and brings back balance to the EK until she can recover
Looking forward to seeing how you guys react to book 4 :)
Aang was levitating himself through the air using the airbending technique that he commonly started up with whenever he went into the Avatar State. The circle of air bent around him is a crutch, he would not be able to go through the air like that without it. Zaheer's technique is often referred to as "unassisted flight," because he does not require any stepping stool to pull off levitation, he can just fly at will.
I hate being that guy who complains. What usually happens is I’ll type out the entire complain-y comment then delete it. But I don’t like how they spend almost all Korra discussions talking about last airbender. I understand there are decent comparisons to be made, I’m not upset about that. I’m just upset about the volume of it
LMD They don't even remember the details of the last Airbender 😂😂😂
Amon's motivation even after being revealed as a bender was still that he truly believed bending was the source of all evil in the world. He had such a horrible upbringing because of his father and because of bloodbending, that he grew to despise all bending. Like a trauma.
Heh, the ending is a little bittersweet in a way, Korra's heard every season from the villains that the world doesn't need the Avatar anymore, and now Korra is wheelchair-bound and the New Air Nation is taking her place restoring balance to the world.
The debate about flying was the best debate I have ever heard about anything lol and when Eric brought up Batman and Aaron's response was, "WHAT???" I lost my shit lol had me in tears. I fucking love you guys
I feel like Shane's the only one watching the show as it's own show.
I tune out whenever they take about ATLA instead of what's happening in the show.
Well they are interconnected. It's only natural to talk about both shows. They both fall under the same universe
Ethio Samurai True.
Agreed, I love Shane's reactions the most!
True.
I didn't take about ATLA nearly as much when I was watching Legend of Korra. All of the times they kept mentioning Zuko coming back as a major player or always referring to the kids of the previous characters as "you're the daughter of whoever" instead of praising these characters for what their own skills are and what they've done. This video was the worst case for that. You have this great bitter sweet ending. Shane is the only one paying attention while the rest talk over it and debate about the series finale of ATLA.
He was flying like the flying Bisons. There's no air around them, but they also do not have "earthly attachments".
"Just trying to fix Genocide!" My favorite line.
Zaheer was flying like the bison fly. Aang normally flew by bending around his glider to create lift. In the finale, his airbending was so powerful the moving air was like a solid lifting him up. Similar to how the fire-rocket shoe thing works, or the water pillar that Korra does a lot.
13:15 To what Shane said: The creators actually confirmed in an interview that the first three books are kind of meant like a trilogy, while the fourth book meant to fit in as what a book 4 would have been for The Last Airbender, to see where everyone's at after the initial story. th-cam.com/video/56_n5C33WpM/w-d-xo.htmlm42s
Niklas L. Yeah, book 4 is more like an epilogue to me.
When book 3 Ended, they already had book 4 in progress, and it aired the next week after the season 3 finale.
shane dont worry, we all cried.
I love the argument in the beginning over whether Zahere can fly or glide
9:06 Shane and Aaron lol
ikr how can people say there is no forshadowing?
Patty Delusional
Lone Avenger Yeah let's just wait for the scene where Korra blushes when Asami tells her hair looks good haha
Eric is right, Aang was using air bending to float and have momentum, he wasn't "flying" he was using the elements to get momentum. Every time Aang went into the avatar state, he had huge waves of air surrounding him, keeping him off the ground. Fire benders did this all the time by shooting fire blast from their hands to push them forward or upwards.
"They're friends" PEOPLE ARE GAY AARON
Aang was encased in a giant ball of air while Zaheer became air itself to lift himself off the ground. You could say they are both technically flying but it's better to say that Aang is using his element to achieve flight while Zaheer is actually flying on his own. Like for example, people fly in planes everyday but that's not the same as flying like Superman.
They mentioned why Platinum can't be bended ALL THE WAY BACK IN BOOK 1 EPISODE 6 or 7.
BEST EPISODE OF ALL LEGEND OF KORRA (for me)
I ALWAYS CRY WITH THE END, TO BEAUTIFUL AND HEARTBREAKING.
By book 3 they had already confirmed they would have a next book, and that would be the end. There is so much I love about this season, and season 4 is even better.
"the end" isn't quite right, the comics are 100% canon, and are still being released, so Korra isn't over yet.
Fernando arantes Book 4 is also my favorite season, but I'm pretty sure Book 3 is widely regarded as the best season. I just prefer Korra's arc and Kuvira as a villain in Book 4.
Innocent Dude please do not put spoilers in the comments
I prefer book 3 honestly, but book 4 goes back and forth in my list. I love her arc, but I dislike some of the choices of book 4 (not the last scene, I like it so very much)
Fernando arantes Shut up
Airbenders glide, we've seen characters (firebenders) sort of propel themselves through the air in a certain direction, Zaheer's flying was as easy and fluid for him as like, a fish swimming through water.
This was easily one of the best seasons of Avatar ever.
And the ending is easily the most brutal endings of Avatar ever.
Gotta love Korra Season 3.
And Eric was right, the other 3 were absolutely demonstrably wrong. The reason why Zaheer was able to fly-fly was because he was able to let go his earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind when Pli got her head blown off. AANG wasn't able to let go his earthly tether 'coz Katara still existed and he still loved her.
If you notice in korra's flying duel with zaheer it was very reminiscent to the final fight aang had with the phoenix king
Can't wait to see their faces in season 4 finale
omg that flying debate at the end tho
We knew book 4 was coming.
Aang specifically states in the first episode of ATLA how his glider works. Something along the lines of being able to control the air currents around his glider.