The Real Reason Tesla Developed The Megapack System!
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Just a little note: A megawatt-hour is a multiple of the joule and thus should not be written with the division sign, which would be megawatts per hour. Not a big deal, but thought that I would offer that up in case you care. :)
We care!
Yes! Please use correct units of measure.
@Curtis Franks
RE: "Not a big deal, . . ."
It IS a big deal, especially in an article involving science & engineering issues. You beat me to it; thanks a lot!
Why not place these vertically? Cover with solar panel, place them adjacent lying, all to save on footprint
@@charlic2 placing vertically makes them very hard to maintain or replace. The inconvenience far outweighs the benefits
Quick corretion:
It is MWh and kWh, not MW/h.
Watt is power, power multiplied by time is energy, so, kilowatt x hour = kWh
Thx.
Many do these basic mistakes.
Correction: The purpose of TESLA Megapack is to replace peeker plants. Within 90 days from start to finish, tesla mega pack can purchased and installed for $40 million and replace a peeker plant and predict when the grid will need energy before the grid does preventing a single black out or brown out. Energy is on demand and delivered within milliseconds.
Peeker plants cost between $700M to $900M and takes between 6 & 7 years to build and then needs a lot of maintenance and talk hours to ramp back up with rolling brown outs and black outs.
Peaker? Handles peak power demands.
MTG should listen to this channel. She is afraid her AC, dryer, or fridge won't work with green energy. She said when the sun goes down it will be dark.
@@richaw42 exactly. Peaker plants can take hours to come online, meanwhile, there’s a black out until it back online. My brother in-law works at one of the largest peaker plants in the Midwest. The KOCH Brothers own it. It’s a $4.5 billion peaker plant. TESLA mega packs were originally designed to mitigate peaker plants all together. Tesla instituted this in Australia years ago now when they were having crazy issues. Basically to Australia we will have a megapack installed within 100 days or it’s free (tesla finished it in 90 days). It balanced the grid supporting it in milliseconds and it was smarter than their actual grid where it began predicting and anticipating surges. Blew away everyone’s expectations saving them hundreds of million of dollars.
@@richaw42 peaker plants can’t scale power quickly. Peaker plants are actually really dumb. They take tons of man hours just to keep them working. Their software is terrible and the work can be very very manual.
@@GET2222 It was so succesfull they made it a lot bigger
Thanks for this piece in particular - it’s a big help to be able to explain Tesla’s mission with clear, concise summaries like this one. Good work.
Wonder why they don't put solar panels over the battery packs? Would think the shade would be good for thr batteries and increase capacity
Well I see the one account doesn't get you. But I'm going to try. I think, like you. I would make the Battery packs sit below ground, and the panels over and closer around to help shade them. It would put less strain on the cooling system. And below ground level will keep the sun from hitting all sides. I hope I was close, with a little of mine added.
@@barracuda861 You are so simple minded and uneducated, I hope for society’s sake that you are no older than 12-13 years old.. because if you are 13 years old (or older) than I feel extremely bad for your parents along with the public school system..
Please tell me that you are indeed a very young and ignorant preteen.
Washing the solar panels might negatively affect the megapacks.
@@lengould9262 They are designed for the outdoors.
@@gregripp I know, but still a consideration likely to outweigh the miniscule potential benefit of PV on the surface area. Watertight access mandoors good for decades are not to be trifled with.
You're an amazing TH-cam channel. Thank you for the high quality content.
using the energy we produce in more or less the same second since we can produce it and not storing it is so mind boggling to me
It’s not even seconds, it’s instant, microseconds!
It's not MW/h, it's MWh (unit of energy is a unit of power times unit of time)
@Alex Lifshitz
RE: "It's not MW/h, it's MWh (unit of energy is a unit of power times unit of time)"
You beat me to it; thanks a lot!
Yeah. it bugs me too.
Please, never divide Megawatts by hours, ok? 7:23
Thanks for sharing ^_^ always enjoy the great productions!
I think the megapack will serve its purpose so will it will cause competition which is only a good thing
Exceptional video & amazing way to explain what MEGA PACK means to TESLA!
Thanks for your time & efforts
Thanks for the technical description of peaker plants. I always thought the main utility had a simple standby generator, but now know better. To replace a peaker plant, a solar (or wind) farm and mega pack is needed.
The grid needed peaker plants before the green revolution. For the exact same reasons: to take care of peak usage that the big power plants either didn't have the capacity for, or when demand increased suddenly. California has more flexible capacity than it needs, because of over building of these peaker plants (we don't need more peakers BECAUSE of solar.) A bigger source of our deficiency is because we, without planning, turned off San Onofre rather than pay to replace a defective (brand new) heat exchanger.
It is MWh and kWh. NOT MW/h or kW/h !!!
Who gives sh*t?🙄
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Very good information about Tesla's Megapack . I like it 👌
u can't do good energy trading without storing the energy
I drove by the Soldotna Alaska MegaPack installation this last weekend.
The image @05:01 is not a peaking plant, it is a blast furnace!
@Erik Barsingerhorn
RE: "The image @05:01 is not a peaking plant, it is a blast furnace!"
Good catch! That implies that the entire presentation is a "green" propaganda piece, which is not particularly surprising since the channel is called The Tesla Space.
So great to see practical (and green) solutions implemented quickly. Very important.
Now the US Government REALLY, REALLY needs to put up the funds to ruggedize the electrical grid against both rolling blackouts and EMP/solar-flare attacks (perfectly practical and not expensive on the amalgamated budget).
Then the US would have a vastly increased probability of withstanding many natural and other disasters without scenarios like occurred in Texas a while back.
It is now obvious that the rapidly increasing frequency of unseasonal and extreme weather events due to climate change is a SERIOUS challenge. We need (globally) to ensure we insure our collective future against this trend.
LFP will solution will be short lived. Sodium Iron batteries are looking at being about 1/4 the price. CATL have move to the production phase for this chemistry...
because we have a real battery shortage we can produce max LFP and max sodium ion batteries and there is still more demand for those batteries than production
sodium ion has a bad wh/l even compared to LFP --> sodium ion is good for energy storage and not that good for vehicles
The chemistry doesn't really matter - it's the scaling up to huge amounts that will create a sustainable future. All types that ramp to scale ( at reasonable cost etc.) can be used in one application, or another...
I would love to have a conversation with Elon, thank you in advance
Great video!
another great video. Really like what you are saying here and what Elon is doing.
Tesla 💙🥤
Not sure you covered the full math of gas vs battery. So with batteries the utilities will have 4 hours to repair a downed electrical system. What am I missing. Does bigger pack just mean more batteries in a box?
As a Tesla investor and hopefully a soon owner I love this company and this channel. I live in South Florida on the east coast and have seen the explosion of Tesla's on the road. The Florida turnpike now has Tesla Superchargers at every rest stop. Florida Power and Light (FPL) which is Next era Energy (NEE) uses alot of solar and nuclear power but I haven't seen any thing Tesla. Maybe this will change Solar power and Nuclear power are the best, the wind mills kill to many birds and are eye sores, it would be nice to see them go the way of the Dodo bird.
It ist GW*hr, not GW/hr
One more step closer to green as we can get technology!!!! Go Tesla Go!!!! Hey, you there on the sidelines. When are you going to get started? There's plenty of business out here for you too.
Making these is so much fun
A really great video on a somewhat boring topic. Well do
Thank you
grid level flow batteries like those built by ESS Tech of Wilsonville, OR are cheaper, longer lasting and more eco friendly than lithium-iron batteries.
For short term energy storage battery system like the megapack will have a very important role. However, for long time storage like summer/winter, they will be much to expensive and will have to many drawbacks. Other systems will take this role
The problem with Li-ion batteries for energy storage is the limited number of full cycles. For small amounts of immediate reserve they may make since, but for long term storage there are far better solutions.
Can’t wait to see a mega pack catch on fire 🔥 should be quite a sight.
JS. 5 : Maybe a built in fire retardant system was installed...
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Seems odd Tesla is building the mega pack factory in California instead of Texas.
Would be curious to hear the real story of the Nevada factory, definitely hasn't expanded like initially planned. Seems workers dont want to live there or some kind serious underlying issue
Can't these containerised mega packs be stacked vertically kinda what we see in ports/harbour.probably this might be due to cable layout,cooling layout, structual integrity,ease of access.
if so, How about repurposing retired coal power plants to stack mega packs which offers floor area of 25*30 mtrs comes with a total height of 70metres max, with over 10 floors.
LFP isn't a new chemistry, but it's decades old having been used as new-fangled replacements for PbA in telcom applications.
the Discord memebers Humor level seems to be world class.
Not understanding the Megapack "Upgrades" 30% more power, 64% more weight, 100% more price.
Are they changing the Chemistry? (edit - yup I posted question before finishing the video)
Doesn't the Software Throttle the Output as required, why would you need to have separate units for 0.8MW or 1.9MW output? Or is the "Duration" line there for people who have no idea what they are looking at, but still curious?
The problem that I see is that you make the terrible case for the peeker plant but the batteries in the Megapack don't just appear from thin air or by magic. You have to dig up all the materials to the make the batteries from the ground and use electricity to make them. So, is one really better than the other?
Dug by toddlers digging with their bare hands right?
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Clean and green energy to safeguard the earth
This is all great and dandy, and I love the idea of storing power, but we have to remember something, environmental impact cannot be the argument. The environmental impact made to mine all of the rare earth elements that go into the battery pack is insane. I believe just the loader alone needed to move the earth required to mine all the lithium burns something like 18,000 gallons of diesel in a 12 hour shift. Then you double or triple a quadruple that for all of the other heavy equipment involved, and then don’t forget all of the semi‘s on the road that are required to move the material, and the ships required to ship it from other nations to here. That is just one shift on one day, there are two shifts every day, seven days a week, 350 days a year. To say the battery pack is a green alternative is just shortsighted. Is it a great idea? Of course. It is absolutely something that we should be doing, but it cannot be argued for in the idea of fundamentalism. Need to be argued for in the idea of maintenance, uptime, the humane impact that it has on the power grid, and other things like that. Environmentally, batteries are absolutely terrible for the environment, and something to remember is that amongst the thousands of cells inside of these giant batteries if one goes bad, then the whole battery is crippled.
You are so right, it is so much more environmentally friendly to drill oil halfway around the world, fight trillion dollar wars to secure it, transport it to refineries to use massive amounts of energy to refine gas and diesel, transport it in tractor trailers to pump into an ICE vehicle to burn a 10% efficiently or 20% in a peaker plant.
7:18 "...the total energy capacity is 730 MW/Hr...": Why the slash ( / ) ???
The Tesla Semi can pull 82,000 lbs. Seems that the weight of the megapack is over the load limit.
What about those container sized liquid batteries.
LFP Rules!!
Why don’t they put a roof above the mega packs and have solar above the mega packs?!! Faster transfer and less loss of energy into the mega packs as well…just a thought….
WE think alike
Just wondering if I can fit one in my back garden😂
GG
Your article is focused on 'peaker' power and grid regulation. While this is an important economic contributor, it is not the key reason holding up widespread use of renewable power. You must determine the % availability you require from an electric grid.
(eg. %99, %99.9, %99.999)
Then:
You must estimate the amount of storage needed to cover the worst case outage profiles.
(for example how often will the wind calm for say 1 week. It is once per 1 year, one in 50 years or 1 in century etc).
Most countries face weather events when the wind does not blow or the sun is cloudy for up to 4 or 5 days. Therefore for a %100 renewable system, the grid must contain sufficient storage to sustain a 4 -5 day outage if we are to dispense with all fossil fuel back-up. Else we raise our costs by duplicating generation.
I cannot see anyway of using todays best Megapak technology to bridge a 24 hour outage at anything but a colossal cost. The idea is simply risible.
The implication of this is that fossil fuel generation to back up solar and wind results in unnecessarily high energy costs.
If we want to reduce costs we need to phase out all public wind and solar generation and use a more rational and cost-effective way to generate electricity.
LOL 3:54 cooling ON GAS!!! OOPS! !
Put that mega pack where the sun don’t shine! ( sorry I could not resist the childish temptation to troll you ) !
This was a great clear explanation of the mega pack product and opportunity for Tesla to become a utility… with the optional opportunity to also pay us for power individually from power walls and solar panels and sell back power to the grid profitably ( as I understand it is now being offered with consumer authorized software that allows Tesla to access power during peak grid demand ).
As the old spec was a 4h pack, it would have been better to compare with a 4h pack, no?
I would like to see a stackable version because it would take up less space
It would probably be too heavy to do that. Plus the packs themselves are so large that most of them can only be hauled 1 high on a flat bed trailer anyways.
I’m sure its possible. Generally space is not constrained enough to bring out cranes to stack them and make maintenance more difficult
Especially on a hillside. I have a property that goes from 100 ft to 200 ft. I'm wondering if you would need to install a steel girder or base or use concrete. Many hillsides can do a two stack with a maintenance on opposite ends. On top of that add a tiny home. :-)
Tesla Energy the amazon web services equivalent to Tesla.
i would say that dojo as a service is the equivalent to aws
but aws made amazon profitable so its not really the same
The wind does always BLOW. Otherwise it isnt wind
Can someone explain to me that renewables plus storage without subsidies is cost effective with fossil fuels without a carbon tax?
Unless you can prove this, these solutions won’t be implemented in any meaningful way where it counts.
In the developing world.
HEY!! Just think if a "mini commune" got together on a piece of "cheap land " with no services and a bunch of "tiny homes" with adventurous and hard working members, with residents "way smarter than me'!! They could power the whole community with wind and solar!! They could power water creation and filtering along with "electrical incineration of human waste"!! Just think of the instant affordable scaling that could take place!! Affordable land within commute of a small or medium sized city!! All travel would be sustained with power created by the residents and their EV's, which would act as further storage of the off-grid power supply!! Something to ponder!! GIDDYUP!!
Human waste is not pollution and does not need to be incinerated. Just put it back in the ground. I mean what are you eating that makes it so toxic? Recycle it even macerate it and fertilize your flower garden. Drill a well for water. So much water is wasted flushing it down to the sewer plant. Sewer pipes are so large people use it for garbage.
@@timsteinkamp2245 Sewer pipes are large for a reason
@@doorwhisperer Sewer pipes were sized when toilets flushed with multi gallons of water along with showers and faucets. With low flow water fixtures it is hard to get enough water to clean the sewer pipes. I'm no expert on it.
Obviously designed to validate the whole renewable energy concept.
Wait, rain water is poisonous?
Depends on the quantity.
Not always or absolutely. Definitely don't drink rainwater in a metro areas prone to smog. That's about it, narrator/writer was just being alarmist.
3:12 "...all rain is poison now in case you haven't heard...": My body just went into convulsions. It's been drinking rainwater for nearly 20 years now...unfiltered and untreated in any way. Should I call 911?
«Rainwater almost everywhere on Earth has unsafe levels of ‘forever chemicals’, according to new research.
Per- and poly-fluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are a large family of human-made chemicals that don’t occur in nature. They are known as ‘forever chemicals’ because they don’t break down in the environment.
They have non-stick or stain repellent properties so can be found in household items like food packaging, electronics, cosmetics and cookware.
But now researchers at the University of Stockholm have found them in rainwater in most locations on the planet - including Antarctica. There is no safe space to escape them.»
So: I would not drink rainwater.
Question. Why didn't Musk use a combination of wind turbines, solar panels and megapacks to power the SpaceX site at Boca Chica? Why did he have a 250MW gas-fired power station instead? Using batteries to stabilise the energy grid just shows how fragile the grid is, but that's what happens when they're built by private utility companies rather than state-owned.
Focus
@@jmattoxriskpro Focus. As in he has more important things to think about? Given that Tesla solar panels and megapacks are an established products I don't see why it would be a diversion. He doesn't have to do anything other than authorise the budget. Maybe it's the likely cost that put him off.
First understand that 50% of 11 Western States are controlled by the Federal Government and I think they own all the land around there. Getting the state to do things takes years and private companies make decisions. I suppose every building could be covered in panels but even his Giga factory is not "covered". Does this power plant also power the island there?
@@timsteinkamp2245 C'mon, this is Texas. If they don't mind SpaceX incinerating endangered species, I don't think they'd object to a few square miles being covered in solar panels. Electricity is also easily transmissible, so the solar farm doesn't have to right next to Boca Chica
There is an issue with replacing the peaker plant with mega packs. That is, peaker plants generate electricity. mega packs do not. So you have to build more electricity plants on top of storage via mega packs. Mega packs are more like other storage devices, pumped hydro for example.
I think grid surplus during low demand hours will be enough to cover supplimenting peak hours (about 6hrs).
@@julianbroughton If that was the case, they would never use peaker plants.
@@lucidmoses the problem was always storage. Battery tech wasn't good enough until recently. Also it was too expensive. The grid isn't constantly at its max output. Also everything that's producted isn't used. For instance at night when people are sleeping there is a surplus of electricity that isn't being used that will be lost bc there isn't storage. Now the real question is that surplus enough to cover peak hours?
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Chemical battery cells are great for storing energy for a few hours. For longer storage, they are way too expensive, even if prices come down significantly. Also we probably don't have the capacity to make that many batteries and get that much material. For shorter storage, there are also cheaper alternatives (with even lower capacity but also lower cost per MWh).
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WIND TURBINE!!! Not windmill. Unless you're milling grain.
Peeker power plants are generally natural gas turbines driving a generator. They are relatively inexpensive to construct, inexpensive to operate (natural gas bing relatively cheap until late), very responsive (turbines react in seconds not minutes or hours) and have relatively clean exhaust (just CO2).
Renewables are cheap to implement initially. As renewables become predominant energy storage becomes essential. The size and scope of the energy storage element is what will drive up the cost of a green power system.
Green energy is the direction we must go both domestically and globally. Tesla’s power packs are a great solution available at the right time.
So gas is relatively clean just CO2 but not quite green enough? I agree we most likely have man influenced global warming but how much is from cloud seeding or other nefarious things being done to our environment by different warring countries? I mean they (bad guys) do it then blame it on the people driving their cars. We maybe scapegoats in a process that will never be solved.
What is so effin hard about getting power and energy units right? It's a 1 minute lookup. *hits all those slashes with a mace. repeatedly.*
Tesla aren't going to produce a 25k car while they have virtually unlimited demand for their current models at higher prices. If they did so, waiting times would get silly.
The demand is not only virtual, it is real 😄
they can‘t produce it yet, because the 4680-Batteries are not scaled up yet + the 25k car wouldn‘t be at Launch 25k, because the production lines for the car are not ramped up but it would get cheaper over time
$25K needs to be adjusted for inflation. There may never be an actual $25K car from Tesla. Inflation never sleeps.
@@blizzy78 I didn't say the demand was virtual, I said it was virtually unlimited. 😋
why $25k car if u can have $25k just for fsd ;)
OK, so why don’t we put the Megapacks in a multistory buildings
Idling to take less land. In places with high population density like LA or SD that would free up land for other use. You could even put the Megapacks under solar panels.
Or solar panels/solar flowers on top of the megapacks, which are on top of empty parking garages in every city everywhere around the world to run those energy hog buildings. They should be super smart and adapt the megapack to be in a shipping sized container and then they could be easily moved anywhere around the entire world that can handle shipping containers. 👍🏻
I am sure you could, and it wouldn't be much more than a software configuration to tell it to keep the lights and elevators running in an emergency giving them a valuable second job
Try that with your battery pack company and you can tell us how it was.
Who pays for the building? How much longer will installation take if you have to build a building first? It's not like their putting them in high cost real estate locations.
40 tons each ? I suspect that's a specially designed building...
Really, like a barrel of water? Now I understand :D this content isn't at all regurgitated and stretched out with redundant info :D
😐 A megapack?! 😏🍷/ Johnny Depp
Lol, he made a shiny UPS. Ok...
Low capacity and resource intensive compared to LFTR.
Hey, Mr windmill dude, how much lithium will be required replace all coal, gas and nuclear power plants?
Also, without human intervention, the longterm trend is for CO2 to gradually diminish. Plants begin to die when CO2 is at .015 percent of the atmosphere. Assuming we reach zero CO2 emissions, what do you suggest we do when CO2 reaches 150ppm or .015% of the atmosphere?
CO2 never has and never will drive changes in climate. You've swallowed the kool-aid. Search "Jim jones and kool-aid" if you want to know what that phrase means.
Who is making the LFP batteries for the California Mega Pack factory? ...To my knowledge, Tesla has not manufactured any LFPs.
why governments wont get this ...
Again I’ll say this is why we should still have the infrastructure to be able to use both fossil fuels or natural gas but with much investment in capturing the co2 & methane that basically nothing is released but the energy made!! Why’ll also having the green energy infrastructure like Solar & wind!! Which will be better used when some kinda deal can be made between Musk with his solar products and the home building industry that can set up all future homes to be built with the solar roof and the normal gear but not the gear for an electric car!! Those with those electric cars can then afford to have that gear installed!! This deal needs to get done when smart leadership like the last 4 years before 1/20/21 sadly with these kind of democratic leadership they won’t want to make this happen because they rather enjoy taking much more in taxes so this kind of idea won’t happen because to many people enjoy the $ the get in this type of home price’s!! With the right & Smart leadership this plan can get done!! & with having every roof being a solar roof!! Then it will largely benefit everyone especially those in the middle to lower class who can save much money of there electric bills as well as selling energy. Also with lower taxes and no inflation and the prices of goods and gasoline down to there all time lows we will be better off then how we have been in the passed!! Lastly as for other energy sources we should have better designed windmills & be made in the USA safer and better & cleaner!! Along with access to Nuclear energy also!! Along with water damns geothermal energy!!! And then when we figure out the technology needed then we can have large scale solar platforms in space capturing true solar energy that can be transmitted down to earth!!!
Great... I'm thinking more and more of using Megapack as a viable alternative for my factory needs.
Kudos to Elon Musk and his talented team!
@Nerd watch 101
RE: ". . . smart leadership like the last 4 years before 1/20/21 . . ."
If you think that Trump was "smart leadership," then I feel sorry for you.
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CO2 is plant fertilizer and necessary to keep plants & trees alive. CO2 is not a greenhouse gas in fact it is heavier than air and immediately sinks to the ground where plants and trees can remove from the atmosphere and store the carbon so it can be used later.. earth's atmosphere currently has only 403ppm at ground level which is barely enough to keep trees alive. In fact anyone growing plants commercially needs to release huge amounts of CO2 into the growing rooms in order to get plants to grow at their best and healthiest. They grow faster taller, stronger, and more productive. Many plants grow best with CO2 levels of 1500ppm .. before the great meteor impacts on earth the ice core samples show much higher CO2 levels and huge plants and trees, animals and humans were not just bigger too but lived much longer than we do today.. heck not just bigger plants but even the milipedes and dragonfly wings were 6 foot.. think of the giants in the olden times and people living hundreds of years.. so yeah We need more CO2 and they know this or their solution wouldn't just be a tax on humanity.. what a scam. If co2 was any real problem we would all be planting trees not paying a tax to the rich elite for breathing "their" air.. fuck them
You said it. The people are brainwashed and it will be like getting them out of a cult. You know how they are so smart and you can't tell the kids anything. That is the real crime of humanity, being able to control their minds. They are so afraid they allow the government to keep secrets from them for security from death I guess. They blindly go into a fascist control of their lives. Then we have the Evangelicals and they just sit back waiting for Jesus to come save them or be raptured. Good Lord.
A WOULD love Elon musk to do business with SCOTLAND!! Because SCOTLAND is the leading on wind and hydro in EUROPE so what Scotland is missing is THIS !!!!!!!
I love Scotland. Making my third visited in October from Chattanooga, TN USA
I’m sure you guys can buy some.
they should put them in an underground facility instead of taking up so much land
Good thing these are not lithium ion
Nar won't work solar works 8hr macks 16 hrs required batteries will not last
In the near future they will probably put a unit in space that will be like a large sail. It will collect sunlight and send it back to earth using microwave, or a tethered cable.
Could the MegaPacks go underground? That way they wouldn't be using valuable surface space...
You'd have to develop additional (expensive) infrastructure to do it. You can't just bury them, they can't be submerged and need to be accessed occasionally for maintenance/repair.
It's a tiny space compared to the massive field of solar panels it's supporting. Also, it would be a huge overhead to installations that isn't needed. Finally, you would have to provide a large cooling system to exhaust the heat.
I’m guessing you have never driven across the US :) the space is negligible
that sound like a loot of fun for maintenance
@@jmattoxriskpro Well, no, I have not driven across the US, give I live in Australia and have done so since I was 7. I hear what you're saying though. Australia has a LOT of landmass too. I realise they wouldn't take up a lot of space, I was more thinking about inner city substations and things like that, where you would have the panels on top of buildings everywhere and then the power would be accumulated in 'bunker' or whatever you want to call it...
You guys should really stop cutting in mid segment to talk about ads/sponsorships. Its the equivalent of those annoying fuckin ads that pop up in the middle of an article youre reading online.
In other words, gimme everything for free? Get outta here.
please use the word methane instead of natural gas it is methane pumped from gas fields not a natural phenomena
Please don’t say “Methane pumped from gas fields”.
Methane is a naturally occurring hydrocarbon that can be extracted and separated from other natural gases such as ethane, propane, butane, etc. (and several others). It is generally under pressure when produced and is compressed to transport safely in pipelines. Methane and other natural gases have a high energy value and are very useful to society to prevent people from freezing to death and provide cleaner alternatives to burning wood, coal, charcoal, or animal dung for cooking. (which helps prevent people from starving to death). Some day in the future society may shift their dependency away from hydrocarbons (including natural gas) when renewable sources of energy become developed and stored at a large enough scale to supply society’s demands.
I’m glad Tesla is leading the way in this transition but during this transition I encourage you to show respect for hydrocarbons. You can help by reducing your personal consumption. It’ll take some personal sacrifices but I’m sure you’re up for it😉.
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"Natural gas (also called fossil gas or simply gas) is a naturally occurring mixture of gaseous hydrocarbons consisting primarily of methane in addition to various smaller amounts of other higher alkanes."
The very definition of natural gas is gas that naturally occurs, and consists primarily of methane. Iiihoipoiii, you you need to stop talking and quit pretending to understand science when you don't even understand the basics of basics.
Natural gas includes more than methane. Their not the same thing. It IS natural gas being pumped from gas fields.
Megapac is a technological dead end. LiFeP and Na-Ion are much better choices for fixed installations.
The atmosphere needs more CO2, not less.
If the kool-aid is in your mouth spit it out now!
Just stop screwing around and develop Nuclear powrr
Your whole video is misleading. Combine cycle natural gas plant produces energy and the tesla mega pack does not. Even though a mega pack is efficient but only when energy is already produce. 15 years warranty is not very long a combiny cycle plant last up to 80 years or more producing energy.... what about the contamination generated by extracting the lithium and other rare earth mineral used to produce batteries systems and solar panels that contaminates more than any fossil fuel power plant.
Like you said the mega pack pulls already existing power from the grid which comes either from nuclear or gas power plant in the case of texas....
When that mega is able to produce energy let me know.
And by the way combine cycle gas plants use to be at 24 % efficiency now they are upward 45 to 54 % way more than solar and wind
It seems the only thing that matters is CO2. That dreaded carbon dioxide that works great in beer kegs.
@@timsteinkamp2245 did you know plants needs CO2 to grow crops ? if we do what they want it would had an unintendent effect on world wide crop production
Good informatin. But please, before making your next video, educate yourself about Power (MW) and Energy (MWh) and never ever spell it like MW/H or MW/Hr or GW/Hr. Such units do not exist and that speeling causes nausea.
Rain is poison? where the heck do you live?