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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Playstation 4
500GB HDD PS4
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Samsung EVO 840 1TB
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Infamous First Light Digital
The Order 1886 Digital
Metal Gear Ground Zeroes Disc
GTA5 Disc
Dying Light Disc
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I can wait 2 seconds.
yes! ha ha ha 2sec. I can wait
2 seconds really doesn't matter 👌😆
PS5 loads Spider-Man in 0.8 seconds looool
@@youwhatmadeidk well that what you get with higher processing power + SSD in ps5.. But in ps4 with it processing power, ssd can give you just 2-5 second faster..
Krisyan Nuruha PS5’s faster RAM and I/O is mainly what helps.
Thanks you just saved me 250 quid, I'll invest in a gaming monitor instead!
Fun fact: In the original models, the SATA port is routed to the USB port, so SSD, HDD, or SSHD, you won’t yield much out of either of the three
N e way to bypass that
And it was sata2 the ps4 pro is sata3
For those wondering why there is such a small difference
the ps4's hardware is built around using an hdd and is not optimized to take full advantage of the ssd
also it has a sata ssd, which is not the fastest
yep to see any real difference, it would need to be an m.2 ssd, and even then it would still be the limit of the hardware.
M2 ssd
The ps4 and ps4 slim both uses sata 2 and the ps4 pro uses sata 3
ps4 fat and slim have sata 2 and ps4 pro sata 3 and this vid was in 2015 so the ps4 was fat and thats why cant fully utilize ssds coz it's sata 2 and ssd's sata 3...thats the reald diff
ps4 pro with newer sata isn't much faster either
from every video comparison i've seen it seems as if the differences in speed gained are minimal at best
I was going to swap mine ofr an SSD but now im not
Thanks just saved at least $100
+C815richard Because the performance is limited by the rest of the hardware, an SDD only really sees performance increase in digital-only content--and it's still marginal at best. If you have the money to throw at it, though, it isn't an inherently bad investment. If just for the performance increase or a capacity upgrade, an SSHD will be better for the money spent; an SSD is really just for stability and durability. My PS3 has been through 2 HDDs simply because they wear out over time or fail mechanically. That isn't saying an SSD "can't" fail, but it is a lot less likely. There is also a small amount in power savings (if that really matters,) slightly lower noise, and less heat generation (but not much.)
At stock capacity, I have to reason: "why not?" you'll pay about 4x as much for a 500GB SSD as a 5400 rpm HDD or 2x the price of a good SSHD but get the benefit of longevity (not that you'll likely ever go through 4 HDDs in the life of the system.) I have a spare 850 Evo, so I'll be putting it in my PS4--but that's like... well, I've got it, so why not?
+Fk90 lol
You certainly don't know what you are talking about
SSD produce a lot of heat.
When on idle temp are certainly lower than on an HDD, but the story goes the other way under stress.
And this can be proved easily. Bench an SSD and an HDD in a PC, where you can monitor temps. SSD will have a higher delta.
+C815richard This doesn't really tell the whole story in my opinion. In time, the files on the HDD may fragment causing the HDD to perform much worse than the SSD even if the max read speeds of the SSD and HDD were the same. In this situation, doing things like downloading something while playing a game (causing a lot of mixed reads and writes) can decrease performance even more. An HDD also can't read files at the end of the drive as quickly as it can at the beginning of the drive. Depending on the size of the HDD you're using, the difference in speed can be pretty drastic. SSDs will maintain the same performance from beginning to end.
+Serious Gaming no they are not... the ssd doesn't produce that much heat at all... try grabbing hdd while in process :)
+C815richard get a hybrid,way cheaper than ssd and not even really any difference,way better than the hdd ps4 puts in there tho.1tb for around 90$
How come the difference is so small? On a pc it's a huge difference between a ssd and a hdd.
Is it something with the OS in ps4 not taking the full advantage of a ssd?
PS4 does not have SATA III
teh keemo Btw: The Pro has SATA III, and it is still not really faster.
One word : bottleneck. That's an hardware trouble because of the limitation of the CPU and RAM, no OS can solve that. But it also demonstrates that the PS4 hardware ecosystem is perfectly optimized : everything is working exactly at the same rate.
@@Bloodysugar As well as that the PS4 probably doesn't have an AHCI mode.
Because the make Loading screens or logos from brands so long on purpose because they knoe it takes longer? So u dont get bored. And these brand names im the loading u cant skip.
Aaaand ofc also bottleneck
Anyone interested in getting a SDD keep in mind this video was made 5 years ago and SDDs have came down in price and this model as been surpassed by the 850 Evo . I’m currently looking into getting a SDD so I thought I’d let everyone know this might help let of your on the fence
Which one did you buy, any suggestions? My hdd is corrupted, looking for a new hdd or ssd
@@LShaneFTW I got the Samsung 870 Evo and i works amazing . Got it at best buy
@@snoozebutton is your ps4 a cuh 1200 series
yes but there is a problem, even with better ssd, the system still has a read write limit.
Unfortunately newer SSD’s won’t make a difference as the PS4 is capped at read/write data at SATA II speeds. Only the PS4 Pro can support faster as it has SATA III speeds
I can wait 30 second longer so I can make a coffe and light up cigar before game started just enjoy your time bro don't rush just wait console next Gen that are fully supported ssd for maximum performance just enjoy you current Gen and game happy gaming
Yes best comment ever your a boss
And if you buy a ssd you will not have time to light up a cigar and you will smoke less
It's really interesting to see how vastly an SSD can improve any PC or laptop, and how marginal the benefits are on PS4. If you want to mod and upgrade and enjoy the fastest speeds - but at a price - buy a PC; if you just want to play your games and have parity with other players, get a console.
The video is 7 years old.......
Ps5 and Xbox series are out now? They are sometimes faster than PC because They have put super fast SSDs in both.
@@alister101 yeah lol
Would be nice to see the difference in FFXIV on PS4. The difference on PC is just insane. I load in limsa in about 5 seconds with an ssd and my friend with an hdd load in 15 ~ 20 seconds. S rank it can take about 30 seconds sometimes with a hdd.
Did you ever get to know the difference? Ive only considered swapping to ssd on my ps4 so I can play ffxiv more like the ps5 ver
I put an SSD in mine because I had an extra one sitting around after PC upgrade. Basically the benifit is knowing that the failure rate will be next to zero and then I used my old 2TB from it for the games as a scratch drive. But I might get a bigger external for this.
Hardly makes a difference. Not worth the cost.
Burzin Billimoria one thing you've got to consider is durability and reliability, having a one less moving part greatly decreases the chances of malfunctions and other problems.
Actually there is not only speed that is a factor. Heat is huge and an SSD is by far way cooler also no moving parts = no Sound. I think its still worth the upgrade. 1 T SSD is the way to go.
Thanks
True. a 1TB alone is gonna cost you about $100. Not worth it imo
Now you can buy a 1 tb ssd for under 100$
@@xtreme9855 right but you can like a 4TB HHD for around the same price. Is it really worth it?
I know this video is old but people are still doing it today. Stop buying SSDs for the base PS4. It's using SATA II speeds for reading from storage. SATA II is limited to reading only 200-300 Megabytes per seconds. SDDs can transfer more than 500 Megabytes per second. So your paying more for less cause it's a bottle neck save your money and slap that SSD using SATA lll instead
My ps4 hdd broke and i used a ssd 250gb, works great. ssd was only 30 bucks, worth it if you only play a few games at a time on console.
Same with me bro ..nice
Iam Only play GTA 5 and Ssd Make me feel great 👍
So, the SSD is about 25% faster than the HHD. It sounds like a good reason to upgrade, at least according to my reasoning. But I'll wait when the SSDs come down in prices by at least a half of what they cost right now.
Hi did u upgrade it now? Just curious
@@mafmsofficial For the PS4 you have to download a software program for the SSD. Look up a vid on youtube for that, they'll show you how exactly. That's probably the hardest part. Then for the hard drive you just un screw it take out the old one & put the new one in. Pretty simple. I looked at youtube vids when I installed my SSD. Now you can buy them for like $65 for 1 TB.
Looks like SSD not obviously more faster than HDD on PS4.
For those of you watching this now a ssd doesn’t just give speed for games to load up it gives you better graphics and if you do go out to get a ssd get the Samsung 860 evo it’s a lot better (clearly because it’s an upgrade) and this video is outdated
That’s right 👌🏻
What better graphics? Gpu cpu and ram is the doer of graphics, not hdd and ssd
it's the original PS4. On my PS4 PRO the difference is huge.. some game loading times and also menus are cut by 50%!!
Gracias por sacarme de dudas, ya no me compraré el ssd. Es casi lo mismo
Semas like the Harddrive is not a bottleneck at PS4, like it is at PC's
Still being a bottleneck but the PS4 cant support more read/write MB/s
PS4 очень хорошо оптимизирована, и ей не требуется SSD. Но есть игры, которые грузятся долго, например, The Evil Within и Crash Team Racing. Хотелось бы увидеть тесты с этими играми
The exactly 25 seconds was satisfying beyond words
It's the motherboard and the RAMs that make the difference. SSDs faster speeds only matter when you turn the console on/off. Change to faster Random Access Memory sticks and you'll see the big difference in gaming itself.
no and no
RAM and CPU speed are already miles ahead of what an HDD can give or in this case a normal SATA SSD
the problem here on why the loading times are almost identical is because a SATA connector was only designed with a normal HDD in mind so pluging in an SSD won't do much.
but in the other case of using an M.2 NVME SSD which allows for a PCI speed in gigabits/s you will notice a huge leap in speed.
the speed of your storage medium always matters whether when booting up or when loading a game since loading a game itself is just pulling data from the drive to RAM.
Because the video is sped up during the load times you can't tell how much your saving in loading but trust me it's noticeable. And I agree with what another video said. The UI is faster and smoother on ssd. It's really worth the upgrade over the hdd. You don't hear the crackling of the heads fetching data from the platters. It's just silent
It’s not sped up
Thanks you just put me in chill mode with the jam music
The SSD can actually provide faster speeds than what we can see in this comparison , but the Games and the sotfware do not fully utlize it and this is why the difference seems small .
The reason for this change don't make that much difference, it's because the games for ps4 was programmed to run on HD, not on ssd, not only this, the whole software from ps4 should be running on HD...
(Not that good with English)
On my pc the ssd made a total difference, with gains of 40% in loading time or more, depending on the game. I think the hardware from previous consoles is very limited and designed to use HDD. It's no use having a slow CPU with an SSD, because it will be underutilized.
It has been stated before. But, PS4 uses SATA II connections, that's why the difference between a regular HDD and an SSD are marginal. If those seconds matter to you, then go ahead and upgrade.
ps4 pro has sata 3 but it makes no difference. The ssd is bottlenecked by the slow CPU.
I believe many ssd intelligently caches data that is used more often. After loading and playing the same games multiple times the ssd should become faster.
Trent F that's how a sshd works not a ssd
With the new SSD's being way faster you get way better results. He is using a old slow version. They're also a lot cheaper now. Also PS4 Pro benefits more than the old ps4 because of the better hard drive slot.
Consoles: Plug And Play
I can't wait 2 seconds.
The Fat and Slim PS4's use Sata 2. the PS4 Pro has Sata 3. so a SSD will make a huge Difference there.
Prob better to buy a 2TB HDD for the Reg PS4. over a SSD. :)
6:46 también debe ser más útil para las descargas y el traspaso de archivos
Así es además que se hace casi inexistente el error de carga de texturas pero no lo pone en el video
so on most average games its not much of a difference. BUT that being said i have noticed it is faster on the home screen (on my PS4 slim) it loads programs notably faster. games like GTAv and Anthem gain larger and notable gains from a SSD. other games that are small enough to load most textures and assets into RAM will being a little slower. but the larger games as stated get alot more out of a SSD.
the Bottle neck is one thing. its not a major thing thou.
but any game with long loadscreen times are SSD worthy if times a thing for you.
my Anthem load time on PS4 slim 1minute. my brothers PS4 pro 1.30.
This was like a honda car with gas and upgrade to lpg
hahahahaha
you seen any differences in texture loading on gta V? my ps4 had really bad performance on this game and i think it would be a slow hdd issue
yes it is get an ssd
or new hdd
In older Playstation 4's where the HDD is worn out and slow, an SSD would make much more of a difference.
Ssd will last longer than the hdd but the ps4 is 10 years old now I suggest you buy a ps5 digital edition
Love the guitar in this song!!! Also great video i def am going to upgrade to ssd after watching.
My ps4 skips the ps logo at boot and just goes straight to the login screen. I’ve got a little over 550GB out of the 861GB and it’s still going strong. Horizon Zero Dawn has been loading faster and I actually enjoy the game a lot more since I don’t have to wait on those load screens every time I die as long. They are about 18-25sec ish now as opposed to the minute they would take before. Wasn’t sure if it was a good investment but so glad I got it now! I used a sandisk plus 1tb.
For those who think an ssd is not worth it, think again. When playing a game and then trying to go home the ps4 lags and the ssd solves this lag on pshome when a game is running in the background.
Mine doesn't lag when it comes to games. Only when trying to get out of TH-cam to the home menu.
It shouldn't unless you put a different drive in. Maybe you're misunderstanding what I said. I meant that if you still had the game open and had to do something on the home screen so you press the ps button, you'd see lag if you try and do stuff like go into messages. th-cam.com/video/0j3l14g8DOs/w-d-xo.html this is an example is what's supposed to happen if you did not modify your ps4 at all.
Yeah that's the issue with the SATA 2 only limited to 300Mb's it sucks that playstation decided to use SATA 2 on cheaper models of PS4 and i have a PS4 slim with a 6 gigabit SSD at least it made my console more responsive than the HDD And i can understand why people think putting a SSD On a PS4 Would do a difference but you will almost not see any difference the PS4 Pro has that SATA 3 so it's worth it to put an SSD in the Pro but for the Slim & Original it will not be worth it because of the limited speed with the SATA 2 but if you want your PS4 Slim or original to be more responsive i guess you can install an SSD in the Slim & Original but keep in mind that the limitations with the SATA 2
There can't be much difference as the game is played on the Bluray, I would like to see a video of the same game but Bluray VS Downloaded (HDD) VS downloaded game (SSD) now there would be a significant difference!
Well technically the game is installed on the SSD. Disc is in for security/ownership purpose
Which SSD did you get, it suxs
we not gonna talk about that gta load time
Yeah but an ssd is cheaper now these days and the 860 evo would be a heck ton better than the 840
I think
tempplerr shitty ass ps4 using sata II i think
ssd vs hdd pc diffecrence is insane on ps4
HDD: Wait 3second i'm coming
What are game updates like with an ssd? How much faster does it copy files because on a hdd its absolute hell
45 minutes to load gta5 on ps4?! For real?! I’m so glad I played it on ps3 where it only took 10.
You guys says that it's not worth it, but for speedrunners this time save are crucial.
speedruns mostly go with ingame time for this matter.
Not worth it. SSD's are still expensive as hell and it isn't even that much of an advantage. 5 seconds or something isn't that hard to sit through.
The PS4 is limited to SATA II, an SSD will never noticeably be beneficial in the real world via a SATA II pipleline not even SATA III can max out a basic SSD. But... Power usage goes down so you will save electric but even then it will be minimal over the course of a few years of heavy usage to actually get back what you have paid for a say the cheapest 1TB SSD in 2023.
Samsung makes the best damn hard drives.. .hands down
+Gaming Palooza Empire Absolutely...
Solid Samsung Drive
A bit late but SSD in Ps4 make remote play actually playable.
Wait Station 4
I get it
Thanks for thi man. I was thinking of buying a ssd today, but this changed my mind. Have a good one!
its not a big difference, keep the money or buy something else, a pro controller really could make you have more fun.
backsound ?
reefer madness by kmk
So on average you'll save 20-30 seconds.
PlayStation 4 SSD and HDD are only slightly different
The hybrid is the way to go, It's marginally more than a regular hdd and you will see a noticeable performance increase. The difference between ssd and sshd is very tiny and no one would ever notice the difference unless they were stop watch comparing and the ssd costs significantly more.
That was 7 years ago. Now you an buy 1TB for $65
No big deference 🤷🏼♂️
HDD not bad
Yep. Screw getting an SSD. Some tech reviewer guy who likes cucumbers tried to say that HDD loading for games were slow as hell compared to an SSD.
quite a waste of an SSD. #pcmasterrace
The ignorance is strong with this one. There are pro's and con's to both ways of gaming.
+Daniel Kane im a console gamer but seriously hes not wrong! it is a damn waste of a ssd
TheBigchekka Yeah im not cringing at that, im cringing at #pcmasterrace
***** true that pcmasterrace crap is just plain stupid. I enjoy gaming on both Pc and console but why fight about them? both have their advantages and disadvantages.
+TheBigchekka 30fps feels like narcolepsy
Adding an SSD has bottlenecks. Add a SSD on PS4 is kind of pointless
Seems to hardly make any difference. Though my laptop with Windows 10 and SSD seems to turn on in an instant.
One game that actually made a slight difference for me was gta 5 otherwise I didnt notice much of a difference for other games so tbh not really worth the upgrade I suppose....
Thanks for video, i realize now how they works, appriciate that.
I just got a ssd for my ps4 fat, because of the slow menu when a game was open, solved the problem.
casi 3 segundos de diferencia.. no es mucho :/
Lo mimso pense. No tiene sentido gasta 100$ (Disco SSD de 500GB) si la diferencia es de +- 3 Segundos. Creo que el tema aqui es RAM y Procesador para mejorar el Performance del Play4 (Los normales), presumo que el Pro es mas rapido
@@CarlosHerreraJugovie de hecho la diferencia con el pro es mínima 1,3 segundos de ventaja con respecto al Fat o slim, no sé a qué se deba
no en todos los juegos, sin embargo en Monster Hunter World si que se ve la diferencia, pero al parecer es el único que se beneficia de esa forma
What is the diffrent between HDD and SSD?
Whats the difference between SSD and HDD
An HDD is a Hard Disk Drive, it uses platters inside of it. An SSD is all flash memory, kinda like the SD card that you use in cameras or in phones. Since its flash memory, data is acquired a lot faster, meaning faster load times in games
To sum up. SSD is not so spectacular as companies want to sell us.
There's some deference
Not Correct. I have upgraded mine and difference in timing is almost half as compared to stock hdd
PS4 or PS4 Pro? This video shows a normal Day One PS4 with a old firmware.
If u have a PS4 Pro the loadings are much faster than in this video.
@@Lixmo I have PS4 standard edition
there is no huge difference like there is on the computers.
а ктото может обьяснить тем у кого лапки,почему так ? где преимущество от ссд ?
Витольд Адамович у PS4 нет поддержки последних sata, соответственно, скорость загрузки не меняется. пропускной способности нет.
Тоже тестил. Особо смысла менять на ssd нет
De todas formas si quereis mejorar el rendimiento lo primero es mejorar la refrigeracion
thx this helped me a lott ,no sense investing in SSD for PS4
SSD better than HDD
Depends on the game, watch the MHW to see the difference
This is disappointing. It just goes to show that the system hardware is limiting the speeds, probably due to CPU architecture limitations.
Why did you go off the disc?
different just 2 second,,,, better not to change
all this for 2 seconds? let me snap all ssds
wow, i now definitely not gonna replace with new ssd. ps4 is highly optimized and hugely bottlenecked with more speed.
43 minut for gta5???????
Today gta 5 Story Mode:
PS4 hdd: 2:06
PS4 ssd: 1:45
PS4 pro ssd: 1:23
😄😄😄
damn what happend to this Game
best upgr. for PS4 is USB 3.0 SSD because USB 3.0 is faster than internal SATA on PS4, dont waste money in internal SSD for PS4, buy external SSD.
ey jo, wie heißt genau der beat, ist ziemlich nice
For someone who's generally new at doing these type of things. How hard is it to install?
It is super easy. But not worth the price. If you need more space just buy a bigger HDD or external HDD
The software would be the hardest part. I would say that would take you a good 10 - 20 min to trouble shoot, find the software file, then download it on your usb. As for installing the hard drive that's easiest part. You just take out the hdd, replace it with the ssd, & screw that into place.
SSD is fast but too fast?
Gpu and Ram makes the difference not SSD ..
2 sec = $100. No thank you
Only 2 sec because ps4 bottlenecks The ssd
this is the worst framework comparison ever
I play one game per day, sometimes two games - for up to 30 secs / per day SSD is to expensive.