If you're downloading it online it partially is determined by the Storage disc but mostly by the ethernet/wifi capabilities of the motherboard of the console. It also depends on the wifi itself so the best way too determine speeds is to download a disc game offline between an HDD and an SSD
Problem is that that also is limited by the disc drive's speed, that's why some games don't even come in the disc, but the disc is just a key for a digital copy of the game which is downloaded from the Store and inserting the disc just makes the console know you have a copy of the license to play it, biggest example is Modern Warfare II, the disc actually doesn't contain the game or any game data, just the key that gives you access to the digital game
much more than that. remember download times are internet based, not SSD based. however, loading times, clipping a video and sharing videos, installations, everything like that are so much faster.
hopelessly_g I also thought this as well, some guy was on my dick about ssd making games download faster, j wasn’t arguing w him or nun I was just saying I don’t think ssd affects download speed, I thought your internet speeds do, I’m not sure if he’s right he might be idk, I haven’t looked into it at all
@@bossmicky9256 ssd actually can improve download speeds because the data could be writen on the ssd faster compared to a hard drive, although you will need an actually decent internet to see it. If your download speed is just 1mb/s then there wont a difference but if you have a 200mb/s download speed you gonna start seeing the difference between them. On the other hand the copying process from updates would benefit in a huge way regardless of your internet which in the case of games like Cod MW or R6 siege which have big file sizes, the copying process is insanely slow but with an ssd you can easily cut a bunch of minutes from that.
Jose rodriguez still can’t & will not believe it b/c I have read no such thing on the internet & have watched some videos that claim otherwise & say its internet based
An SSD wont improve your download speed. The difference was most likely due to the network having different amounts of bandwidth being taken up. Downloads are solely depended on network speeds because most hard drives can read and write data faster than it can be sent over a network anyway. The only difference you’ll see with SSDs are that boot-up, game loading and data copying will he faster.
if its a standard SSD compatible with PC its 100% worth the upgrade just take it out of your ps4, format it, and stick it into a mid - high range pc kek
Major flaws. SSD doesn't help if your internet sucks genius. It basically helps with the loading of game resources and cuts down on the load times. Hence, it produces best with the higher end consoles like xbox one x and ps4 pro because of their better raw processors and gpu. In numbers it produces normally 4 times or more depending on the type of ssd one is using.
This is true because the SSD doesnt throw off heat like a HDD does. You can barely hear it running now. Also get a vertical stand that has openings on the sides to allow the bottom breathe.
The UI is also a lot more responsive I.E scrolling through menu and that slow ass ps store loads up instantly on my Samsung evo 860 1TB I’d recommend buying one.
I’m sure they are both expensive and 30ish seconds is not really worth going to an upgrade that makes a “HUGE” difference. My Wifi sucks anyway so “upgrading” would be a “HUGE” of money and not worth the “HUGE UPGRADE” I’m making sure people understand “HUGE UPGRADE” means huge money for companies that do the same as a standard set up but claim it so they can take money. Just stick with the standard set up guys.
Can we ignore the storage speed and focus more on his incredible internet speed. Like goddamn!!! My internet takes a 40min to download fortnite. And his 5?!?! Ground breaking
@John Glasscock My ps4's HDD(500GB) was broken two days ago, I losed all my datas, can you suggest a new SSD or HDD (500GB) compatible with Ps4 Waiting for an answer I appreciate it
I'm wondering what's different in the PS4 when it comes to downloading speeds. On my PC (Steam, Origin, Epic etc.), I can download a 50Gb game in about 7 minutes, but on the PS4 it's taking like 40 minutes.
You should notate how fast your internet is, people with faster internet would see a huge difference also the write speed is what you need to check on that as it might be similar to your HDD write speed
@@Ankka5 I know about speeds, i have two of them in my pc(840 and 850 evo). But maybe PS4 cant read that fast. they put Kingston HyperX 3K with 540/450MB/s read/write speeds.
It’s not about whether it’s worth or not. It speeds up downloads, the operating system, and load times for the games you play.... that’s the point here none of you seem to understand 😂 talking to all before me. Actual plebs wtf. I was hoping to learn something like a bandwidth cap to the ps4 pro. It must be 600gbps Sata3 . Gjwp
jesus christ do these people think we’re made of money! it’s like £100 that’s way too much money for a couple of seconds. i’m good, i’ve got my usb extended storage to plug into my ps4 and it’s so much easier. even tho it doesn’t boost performance i don’t think.
Would a ssd 250gb for system storage with a 4tb hhd external make games load times go quicker? Or do I need the games actually on the ssd drive? I got a ps4.
@@Ankka5 Thats not the question he asked,Ill answer it for him. @Dab Rab SSD = doesnt spin and collects catche data similar to what you internet does. HDD = a device that spins similar to a DVDs that writes data at slower rates So what does that mean? Basically,the more space that your SSD has,the faster it can get information at larger rates than a HDD can since HDD manually spins.You'd be better off with just an external SSD since the orginal PS4 internal drivers dont have Sata III,which boosts the usages of an internal SSD more. Since bigger games like Horizon West are coming out that has like 100GB+ file size not including the DLC coming for it,an External SSD is gonna almost be mainitory just to play it on a PS4. SSDs cost a bit more but they are proven to speed up load times and download speeds from the internet mainly because of the data writing methods being similar (internet catche/SSD data catche).Thats why sometimes you see people with the world class internet speeds still have crap downloads on the PS4,its their dated HDD's holding them back.
I have a serious question I have a 2tb external hard drive and I just got a solid state drive if I want to reap the benefits from the SSD do my game need to be stored on the SSD or can they be stored externally and get the same speed with ssd?
I installed my Samsung 860 evo when I turn the ps4 pro on buy holding down the power button till you hear one beep and it says hard wire your controller and hit ps button but it does nothing any ideas?
@@JohnGlasscock Funny thing is console users forget you can't run more than one sata device and a 1tb ssd will cost over £200 - it's no cheap solution and by that point the only real "upgrade" is buying a pc
When I download things using my cellphone Speed can go upto 90mbps but on that same connection, my desktop performs at 5-10mbps, why do u think that's the case? (Hdd btw)
I dont get it? You tested ssd vs hdd on download speed? You dont have 500MB/s download speed. What you need to test is on loading speed like GTA 5, Final Fantasy 15, RDR2. Why do you lie to people for likes?
@@Ankka5 He is downloading around 120MBps, his download speed is 1000Mbps or 1Gbps. Thats different. But just for info( and only info about write and read speeds i could find) PS4 pro hdd write speed is 87MBps while SSD is 250MBps. So, he needs 2Gbps internet speed to take advantage of SSD. 50MBps is big improvement, but this test is still useless. @Shadow Gamer Suck it fan boy.
Not really worth it because how sony has files compress and write on your PS4 HDD. You should really be doing a video on a comparison of how fast an SSD can access the files to launch a game compared to HDD.
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Glasscock: downloads Fortnite in 5 minutes
Me with 2mb internet: Wow 12 more hours to go
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@@JohnGlasscock 12 hours with 2mb? More like 12 days xd
FPS isn't related to your internet. FPS means Frames Per Second. It has to do with your graphicscard and processor.
@Rafael Gaming your download speed is not fps. fps is frames per second.
If you're downloading it online it partially is determined by the Storage disc but mostly by the ethernet/wifi capabilities of the motherboard of the console. It also depends on the wifi itself so the best way too determine speeds is to download a disc game offline between an HDD and an SSD
Problem is that that also is limited by the disc drive's speed, that's why some games don't even come in the disc, but the disc is just a key for a digital copy of the game which is downloaded from the Store and inserting the disc just makes the console know you have a copy of the license to play it, biggest example is Modern Warfare II, the disc actually doesn't contain the game or any game data, just the key that gives you access to the digital game
Omg huge 30 seconds I could've gone to a mall and came back with popcorns in that time
Your last name is dope😂, I wonder how the teachers reacted when you were in school.
Thanks for the support
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much more than that. remember download times are internet based, not SSD based. however, loading times, clipping a video and sharing videos, installations, everything like that are so much faster.
hopelessly_g I also thought this as well, some guy was on my dick about ssd making games download faster, j wasn’t arguing w him or nun I was just saying I don’t think ssd affects download speed, I thought your internet speeds do, I’m not sure if he’s right he might be idk, I haven’t looked into it at all
@@bossmicky9256 ssd actually can improve download speeds because the data could be writen on the ssd faster compared to a hard drive, although you will need an actually decent internet to see it. If your download speed is just 1mb/s then there wont a difference but if you have a 200mb/s download speed you gonna start seeing the difference between them. On the other hand the copying process from updates would benefit in a huge way regardless of your internet which in the case of games like Cod MW or R6 siege which have big file sizes, the copying process is insanely slow but with an ssd you can easily cut a bunch of minutes from that.
Jose rodriguez still can’t & will not believe it b/c I have read no such thing on the internet & have watched some videos that claim otherwise & say its internet based
An SSD wont improve your download speed. The difference was most likely due to the network having different amounts of bandwidth being taken up. Downloads are solely depended on network speeds because most hard drives can read and write data faster than it can be sent over a network anyway. The only difference you’ll see with SSDs are that boot-up, game loading and data copying will he faster.
Oh, the things I could do with an extra 30 seconds...
🐗🤯
Yes, such a HUGE upgrade...
if its a standard SSD compatible with PC its 100% worth the upgrade
just take it out of your ps4, format it, and stick it into a mid - high range pc kek
Yup
I'm still here waiting for the SSD recommendation that he promised to provide at the beginning of the video 😅😅😅
Major flaws. SSD doesn't help if your internet sucks genius. It basically helps with the loading of game resources and cuts down on the load times. Hence, it produces best with the higher end consoles like xbox one x and ps4 pro because of their better raw processors and gpu. In numbers it produces normally 4 times or more depending on the type of ssd one is using.
This was the first thing I did when I got my launch PS4. It was worth it. Plus it keeps your PS4 nice and cool during the Summer or other.
Interesting
This is true because the SSD doesnt throw off heat like a HDD does. You can barely hear it running now. Also get a vertical stand that has openings on the sides to allow the bottom breathe.
it worth the upgrade it's not just for the download it will be useful even in start up time and game loading time
Yeah I'll give some thoughts later on
Im never gonna buy ssd just fr 20 seconds faster... 😂😂😂
An ssd also gives better load times in games so it might be worth it
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Lool too him longer to install the ssd probably than saving time downloading games
Kashif Ali that was 20 seconds saved with a pretty small game, think about the time saved with a game like RDR2
I commented on a couple videos asking for this! Finally.
You're welcome
John Glasscock he didn’t even said thankyou 😒😂
Thank you! I totally forgot 😂
So the only advantage of an SSD is just faster load time. The game itself reply on your CPU and RAM.
The UI is also a lot more responsive I.E scrolling through menu and that slow ass ps store loads up instantly on my Samsung evo 860 1TB I’d recommend buying one.
Great video, now I'm putting my old 2tb ssd from a pc to my ps4 😍😁
actually i'm sure the HD is barely turning. Your internet connection is likely the a bottleneck. A better test would be game loading time.
In other words, the hdd is still faster than your internet.
Download speeds are not linked to hdd speed.
Unless you're on a direct fiber connection.
I’m sure they are both expensive and 30ish seconds is not really worth going to an upgrade that makes a “HUGE” difference. My Wifi sucks anyway so “upgrading” would be a “HUGE” of money and not worth the “HUGE UPGRADE”
I’m making sure people understand “HUGE UPGRADE” means huge money for companies that do the same as a standard set up but claim it so they can take money. Just stick with the standard set up guys.
+John Glasscock Awesome video!!👍 can you make a video doing this for the Xbox as well?...I have no poems to say lol
Maybe
@@JohnGlasscock Ok thanks👍
Do one where you test if the ssd has helped the download speeds while you have a game open
Can’t wait for next gen to have SSD’s. Hopefully
They do now
30 - 40 seconds faster load speeds for $100 - $70? HDD it is!
I paid $160 CAD for a 860 evo tax included
This video and first games downloaded agree that helped prove that it was worth it
Can we ignore the storage speed and focus more on his incredible internet speed. Like goddamn!!! My internet takes a 40min to download fortnite. And his 5?!?! Ground breaking
Please do a Marvel Spider-Man download at 1GB
30 seconds worth of $150
I wish I had this high tech and Internet connection 😦😕
@John Glasscock My ps4's HDD(500GB) was broken two days ago, I losed all my datas, can you suggest a new SSD or HDD (500GB) compatible with Ps4
Waiting for an answer
I appreciate it
the one in the video link..
And my ps4 took 4 days to download it but it downloaded in 2 minutes for you...
I think its ur internet mate
Does not improve download speeds. The Ps4 is capped out. Now moving games between storage will be 5× faster.
Why do I have high Internet speed loss after installing SSD hard drive before HDD 450 MBit closer with SSD 80 MBit please help.
I'm wondering what's different in the PS4 when it comes to downloading speeds. On my PC (Steam, Origin, Epic etc.), I can download a 50Gb game in about 7 minutes, but on the PS4 it's taking like 40 minutes.
Want my opinion?
Samsung 850 or 860 Evo is what u need for a speed change
You should notate how fast your internet is, people with faster internet would see a huge difference also the write speed is what you need to check on that as it might be similar to your HDD write speed
Wow you saved less than 30 seconds. Wow. Super fast. Wow.
where it shines is in transfer
I mean, people bugging why I didnt do it sooner so idk. I will say the menu system no longer lags and game loads are much faster
@@JohnGlasscock That would actually be a good reason to get one.
@@JohnGlasscock And thats the test you should be doing. Loading speeds.
What you gonna do with all the extra time you have now?
What about the installing times? Is there any difference?
SSD are just better at reading not writing I think
Ssd’s normal writes and reading are about 500mb/s
@@Ankka5 Not on PS4 acording to techgage. SSD write is 250MBps and read 290MBps
Marko Kovacevic Normal ssd’s has 500mb/s write and read, but they put those crappy old ones so they have 200-250mb/s speeds
@@Ankka5 I know about speeds, i have two of them in my pc(840 and 850 evo). But maybe PS4 cant read that fast. they put Kingston HyperX 3K with 540/450MB/s read/write speeds.
It’s not about whether it’s worth or not. It speeds up downloads, the operating system, and load times for the games you play.... that’s the point here none of you seem to understand 😂 talking to all before me. Actual plebs wtf. I was hoping to learn something like a bandwidth cap to the ps4 pro. It must be 600gbps Sata3 . Gjwp
On my pc it turned my download speed from 18 mbs (10+ year old hdd) to 320+ on my ssd i dont know if pcs are different or what.
jesus christ do these people think we’re made of money! it’s like £100 that’s way too much money for a couple of seconds. i’m good, i’ve got my usb extended storage to plug into my ps4 and it’s so much easier. even tho it doesn’t boost performance i don’t think.
im trying to find a video of updates. apex legends has updates that take maybe 30-45 mins to download then hour plus to copy
But how fast does it start now?
The same test but with a 50gb game I wonder if it’ll be different because when I download full games it takes afew hours to download
Isn’t it the copying part that uses ssd instead of internet speed
Replace my hdd with ssd on my potato pc, its not increasing fps in game playing, just make loading little bit faster 10-20 seconds.
I have gig bit internet and my system is hardwired but I never see speeds higher than 150 on average. Sometimes 400MB
Would a ssd 250gb for system storage with a 4tb hhd external make games load times go quicker? Or do I need the games actually on the ssd drive? I got a ps4.
Dab Rab no because then the games would be downloated to hard drive
@@Ankka5 Thats not the question he asked,Ill answer it for him.
@Dab Rab
SSD = doesnt spin and collects catche data similar to what you internet does.
HDD = a device that spins similar to a DVDs that writes data at slower rates
So what does that mean? Basically,the more space that your SSD has,the faster it can get information at larger rates than a HDD can since HDD manually spins.You'd be better off with just an external SSD since the orginal PS4 internal drivers dont have Sata III,which boosts the usages of an internal SSD more.
Since bigger games like Horizon West are coming out that has like 100GB+ file size not including the DLC coming for it,an External SSD is gonna almost be mainitory just to play it on a PS4.
SSDs cost a bit more but they are proven to speed up load times and download speeds from the internet mainly because of the data writing methods being similar (internet catche/SSD data catche).Thats why sometimes you see people with the world class internet speeds still have crap downloads on the PS4,its their dated HDD's holding them back.
When You Dont Know How to Consume Super fast internet 🤣🤣
Edit: Yeah I got A reply From The man With the fastest Internet In the world..😜
Haha
The extra storage is worth it
I have a serious question I have a 2tb external hard drive and I just got a solid state drive if I want to reap the benefits from the SSD do my game need to be stored on the SSD or can they be stored externally and get the same speed with ssd?
RocK_LobSTer- 78 you need your games on your ssd, because you are reading the games which drive you have installed them
I know
My games load a lot faster tho even without them on the SSD somehow. Lol
I know even having a upgraded external has slightly faster load times then the standard HDD
Just feels faster than before
I installed my Samsung 860 evo when I turn the ps4 pro on buy holding down the power button till you hear one beep and it says hard wire your controller and hit ps button but it does nothing any ideas?
You have to connect your controller via usb like you have to charge it
what on earth as the disc drive got to do with download
Console players trying to get more performance lol!
LOOOL
@@JohnGlasscock Funny thing is console users forget you can't run more than one sata device and a 1tb ssd will cost over £200 - it's no cheap solution and by that point the only real "upgrade" is buying a pc
@@XxLukexX SSDs right now are dirt cheap
Still £160 for a 1tb ssd - good luck storing all your "games" on there.
Just bought a ps4 only for exclusives.
But isn't the downloading speed dpeend on your net speed not on the ssd 😅 u should've tried to compare between two game's
But the HDD has a bunch of notifications Wich could slow it down Wich means it ant fair
Do you think the ps4 pro would maybe take a larger advantage of the ssd because it supports sata 3 or something like that.
Geat video!
Possibly
Urticant G yes because Sata II:3gbts
Sata III:6gbts
150 for a 1 T shoot I just spent 129 on a 5 T external HD cleared up everything and I still have 2 Ts left
That is external
that's external and a hard drive not solid state drive
Kids
Takes me a whole day to download fortnite
If you have a lan cable thats not that great take it off and upload ur game.
What a waste of money lmao.
Any recommendations for UK SSD as we don't have Inland SSD here.
The Sandisc ones and Samsung are good
I've been looking at the Samsung 850 Evo but not sure if it's compatible with an Xbox One.
Does it really make a diffrence on the performance of the ps4? besides the downloads?
idk yet, I will let you all know
@@JohnGlasscock sounds good bro
@@leosimiano4616 it doesn't actually it helps with loading times
Depends on your internet speed
Yup
When I download things using my cellphone
Speed can go upto 90mbps but on that same connection, my desktop performs at 5-10mbps, why do u think that's the case?
(Hdd btw)
I dont get it? You tested ssd vs hdd on download speed? You dont have 500MB/s download speed. What you need to test is on loading speed like GTA 5, Final Fantasy 15, RDR2. Why do you lie to people for likes?
My download speed is 1000Mbps. You must be new
@@JohnGlasscock Yea, and that is still not 500MB/s.
John Glasscock Wtf man sata ssd can only read and write around 500mb/s so no you do now download at 1000mb/s
@@Ankka5 He is downloading around 120MBps, his download speed is 1000Mbps or 1Gbps. Thats different. But just for info( and only info about write and read speeds i could find) PS4 pro hdd write speed is 87MBps while SSD is 250MBps. So, he needs 2Gbps internet speed to take advantage of SSD. 50MBps is big improvement, but this test is still useless. @Shadow Gamer Suck it fan boy.
Huge upgrade....?
I bought 1tb ssd 2weeks ago to pro and its 👌👍
Nice!!!!
well the hdd is still quite fast so...
If I change it to ssd would I lose all data?
Cheeseball45 yup u will lost it all cuz all the data are stored in your old hdd
nono fortnite dont play in ssd because he play only
Hm, no nuts November .
Failed
I wish I had a PS4 :(
j10p3z From TH-cam! Same
Lol u started ssd way before hdd
Show, a cod install that takes all day
How do u get this speed?
I pay for it
How much did it cost y for that internet
80 dollars
Eh, id rather buy a 2 tb hard drive instead.
It wasn't worth the extra cost for me
Not really worth it because how sony has files compress and write on your PS4 HDD. You should really be doing a video on a comparison of how fast an SSD can access the files to launch a game compared to HDD.
SSD 1TB?!! , what a laugh 😂😂 can't buy that 😭
It's £100 now! Sooooo cheap!!!
guys does it increase fps?
no
Nice
NOTI
My ssd is way faster than that
Not that huge but better 😁
debes de tener un internet de la nasa xd
NASA
@@JohnGlasscock V:
Interested to hear your thoughts after some time with this.
Will make an update vid
Took me 6 hours to download
Watch dogs 2 downloading speed plz plz plz
Hahaha maybe
I'm love playstation 4
LMAO
I want ur internet nowww
ily
That's such a shitty ssd
This video is private.
no it's not lool
@@JohnGlasscock its a glitch, it was
Well you're comment is public .
@@richishere82 your
It's no big deal
Cool
GLASSCOCK !!!
Whatsup
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Loading game time comparison!!
Those have been done over and over again