Should You Upgrade Your PS4 With an SSD?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- Loading times are getting ridiculous - and in this video, we put them to the test. Just how much time can you save by upgrading to an SSD or a hybrid SSHD drive? Tom and Rich test out a big bunch of PS4 titles on three different drives - the stock HGST 500GB HDD, an OCZ Trion 100 480GB and a 1TB Seagate hybrid.
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Tom needs some sunlight. Richard, let him out of the basement.
Reminds me of Richmond from the IT Crowd
Josh Schreuder YES. So much. Just needs some black hair and he's got it down.
***** It's a joke man don't try and dissect it.
i lol'd
0:07 Rich is like: "Dude this was my part!"
Haha totally, he looks so pissed
I have a Samsung 850 EVO 1Tb inside my PS4, and as you guys allready pointed out, the difference varies a lot. Still in many games, installation of games, applying updates and overall OS functionality it's a big difference. Not worth the price of a top of the line SSD, but had a few extra drives lying around, so definitely worth it.
So do I but do you have boost mode on?
@@Nonlifting_breezy Of course.
Been using an SSD in PS4 for a few months now. Difference is very significant, even when just navigating the interface, looking at screenshots... etc. I would recommend it.
Anyway, thanks DF for yet another informative and well put together video.
+shtik Definitely they didn't test that.Loading apps,streaming games,moving through the menus,updates,everything is faster and smooth.
+shtik A SSD for a PS4 is only paying off if you are planning to play with it all the time in my opinion.
+JustRefleX I use the PS4 mostly for exclusives, still very much worth it in my opinion. of course whether it's worth it or not is subjective.
Gamesworld Blocked.
+WehrBlitz42 Some older DF tests suggest that, but personally I don't know as I've never tried a 7200 HDD. However a hybrid SSHD is only slightly more expensive than a 7200 HDD.
0:14 Richard looks really impatient like he's just waiting for Tom's lines to be over so he can speak
He just can't wait until he gets to say 'The Wichard 3'
For Bloodborne the best way to reduce the amount of time you spend looking at loading screens is to just get better at the game :D
lol
+Sergio Xisto So That's What I've Been Doing Wrong
Well, just grind until you're OP at the part you're stuck at like every other RPG. I did that and am halfway through my new game+ playthrough and haven't died once. It's fantastic.
+Sergio Xisto I think, hacking the game to run on a pc through a ramdisk would be easier :D
+yomamaisonfier >grind until you're OP
lol
0:25 What's behind the camera?? John looks so disgusted!
Edit: John? Who the fuck is John? I meant Rich...
+TheEvilMammal He realized his buddy didn't reflect on the camera lens...
+TheEvilMammal He´s Tom
+TheEvilMammal lmao
ps4 pro supports sata 3, you guys need to do a new stock HDD vs SSHD vs SSD video
Thanos is coming Do you have a link for information on that?
Thanos is coming That was an over-elaborate way of saying “no”. I’ve got a PS4 Pro with a Crucial 2TB SSD in it right now, and I don’t see any recent performance improvement whatsoever. You’re the one making the claim... so your responsibility to provide evidence to back it up. I’m not going hunting for videos on TH-cam that may not exist.
Thanos is coming You going to keep talking out your bottom or provide some proof like Happy Spaceinvader said, my guess is no 😂😂
Thanos is coming you’re dumb
I choose the Hybrid so I can store more games, but the SSD is a beast
1:25, what was that? Was that 'The Wichard 3'?
+Matthew N bloodborne
+Matthew N ...They say and list the game they're running...You didn't pick up on that?
+Matthew N No one got the joke : "THE WICHARD 3"
RICHARD
BAHAHAHAHAHA
+Matthew N Hi here´s Wichard from DF
Polo Surf I don't pick up on terrible attempts at jokes.
Mind telling me?
SSD won't reach full potential at 3Gb/s sata speeds, it could easily pull an extra 200MB/s if it were sata 6Gb/s easily.
It's somewhere in between. The PS4 Pro's connection is Sata 3, but the controller on the mobo is rated for Sata 2
Late response but the ssd even on a sata 3 will be bottlenecked by the rest of the ps4 hardware. The difference is there with the sata 3 connection but its not as capable as a pc
@@toddthegod3222 Still way nicer and less popin.
@@toddthegod3222 so what would u suggest, my sons ps4 pro's stock hard drive is dead, what would u replace it with today in 2020?
@@chrisv.6951 Depends ofc on how much you are willing to spend and how many games your son wants to store on his ps4 pro.
high amount of games + low budget = go for an 1 tb hdd
low-Moderate amount of games+ medium budget range = go for a 500gb ssd
high amount of games + high budget = go for an 1 tb ssd
Ssd's are of course better than hdd's (even if they are bottlenecked by the current hardware) both in game and in the ps4 menu. It is up to you if you are willing to spend the money for it
Awesome review! Here in the US, a 2TB SSD is somewhere between $700~$1,000us. I got a 2TB SSHD for $95us. I REALLY can't see the benefit of spending $600us more, for a couple less seconds of load times. Since upgrading I've notice a nice decrease in load times for Fallout 4. It would be nice to have the faster SSD, but I'm happy with the faster performance of the SSHD, and $600us in my pocket...
Now when SSD's come down a little more, or I get some crazy money, all bets are off, LOL!
Great and bold idea to put an SSD on a PS4
I always like the dedication you put in your videos
Don't you think it would be fun and interesting what happens if you put an external SSD on a Wii U?
Anyone else notice that stare Richard gave Tom @0:08?! LMAO!
SSDs are the best for speed. HDDs are the best for storage. SSHDs are the great combo of both.
Fiersel I'm just sitting here waiting for a 1 TB SSD to be under $100. It was over $1000 5 years ago. Now it's $200.
Doing this in 2024. I recently picked up a used PS4 Slim for a very good price and condition. I do plan upgrading the 1TB HDD to a 2TB SSD. I’ll also do an internal clean, new thermal paste and thermal pads.
same plan here
I don't think you guys understand how the SSHD works. It takes often-used files and puts them on the SSD portion of the drive. In practice, this is USUALLY the OS loading. If you notice in some tests the loading times are about midway for the SSHD, and others are closer to the stock HDD. This is cause files need to be accessed enough times for the drive to realize it's a "frequent file" and slap it on the SSD portion. For frequently played games, the SSHD will help, along with loading in initially with the OS.
+yomamaisonfier Most SSHDs have a 4GB cache. In scenarios where a lot of content is required to be loaded immediately, it only provides a small benefit.
***** They all have different sizes. The one they have there I believe has 8GB of SSD in it. Either way, it's not a "cache" per-say, it's a literal section of the hard drive that it uses as a normal drive. It automatically stores frequently accessed data in there, as I already explained. The size or amount of data doesn't change anything, it has to do with how often it's accessed.
yomamaisonfier You have pretty much explained a cache. And seriously, 8GB for a cache is still pretty small. An improvement indeed. But still rather small for dramatic increase in access times.
***** We are both pretty much agreeing lol
Will you test the PS4PRO HDD vs. SSD?
wait the base drive is 5400rpm? wtf sony
***** talk about 2007 haha
+NonsensicalSpudz You should be more annoyed at the god-awful drive size.
Rhyan Chalmers yeah mine is 70% i have to delete stuff every so often
+NonsensicalSpudz Also sata 2...
NonsensicalSpudz I had to pull my PS4 apart a little to install a 1TB (thankfully 7200RPM) drive just to stop giving me a headache about drive space.
Sony were idiots in making that decision.
+DigitalFoundry what about TRIM?
Is it enabled? Is it advisable to install SSD on PS4 without native TRIM support in Orbis?
I want to upgrade the PS4 GPU...
Lmao good luck with that buddy
Good luck.
+Md Ray What you want is a PC then.
+Md Ray consoles have an apu. that means the cpu and gpu dies are on the same pcb and covered by the same ihs. it is physically impossible to upgrade either
+Md Ray You'd want a PC, buddy.
Fallout 4 was killing me. I could go get a drink come back and it's still loading. Installed 512gb Samsung 850 pro about a month ago. Every game I've played since just feels more smooth and refined when loading.
the problem I have with all this is that as far as I'm aware, the ps4 doesn't support trim which to me defeats the purpose of putting in a ssd besides the price factor.
+Branden Tremblay That and add in the SATA II controller which is a bottleneck.
+morti ((IF)) that is true. Then that would likely be attributed to the higher graphical settings/textures..etc.
***** If you pay potato prices....
+Branden Tremblay Newer SSD's (Samsung in particular) have an onboard TRIM feature. Not all SSD's are guaranteed to work as the PS4 wasn't designed for aftermarket/third-party hardware.
We're very lucky Sony didn't use some proprietary controller crap for the cheap low-end hard drives they put in their expensive $400 flagship console.
PS - I put an SSD in my original Xbox and let me tell you: It was 133 megabits per second - EVERY SECOND :D
***** Yeah.. Or get an entire gaming system that certainly under performs. But will sell simply due to recognition, ease of access and use while also being affordable to the hordes of broke and oblivious masses.
I love these types of test
For the same storage capacity, SSD is 5 times the price of SSHD, but not 5 times the performance (on PS4 or PS4 Pro). I've been and got the T-Shirt, with a 1TB Crucial MX300 SSD drive on a PS4 Pro, and the speed increase is hardly life-changing. Rather than pay £512 for their 2TB model, I opted to pay £99 for the Seagate Firecuda and, honestly, unless I can be bothered to sit there with a stopwatch, timing loading screens, it doesn't seem like a downgrade.
Several recent analyses have shown that, even with the PS4 Pro's SATA III interface, the bottlenecks in game performance, asset loading, level loading, etc. are not necessarily down to disk I/O.
And, I hate to boast, but I *do* have money to burn compared to the average gamer... I have another 1TB Crucial SSD that I bought for (and still use in) the PS3 for the incredibly rare and trivial upgrade that that is (it solves asset streaming for Rage and a couple of other games). And I bought both 1TB SSD drives when they were around £400 mark. If you really do have money to burn, then by all means get the best possible drive for your PS4, but I honestly feel the SSHD drives give the best value in terms of storage and performance.
Bought a 500 GB SSD for my PS4 Slim never regret it, as my game library are mostly Indie, Metroidvania and Roguelike
The Hybrid Drive is the best deal for the size and speed. And it has learning, so over time it gets faster each time you use a particular file/game
Wow, I didn't realize load times on consoles were so bad. You guys definitely deserve better than that. Takes roughly 7 - 10 seconds to load into Diamond City for me, and that's with ini edits forcing the game to stream as many textures as it can.
Watching this nearly 5 years later. 😁
5 years of SSD price droping😃
Really, just loading times?! I have more interest in small boosts in performance and pop-in reduction. I have a SSD on my PS3 and the texture and geormetry streaming are impressive in some games. I had a revelation when I upgraded in BF3 an 4, because you're always in movement, and I wasn't aware that the game that I was looking at, was always incomplet. With the SSD all assets with maximun quality, apeared on screen very fast... It was a real graphical upgrade.
Another thing are the performance boost, even if it's 1, 2, 3 frames more, in a game with the 30fps target, that have small dips to the mid20s, is a real improvement... How about Fallout 4, Witcher 3, GTA5, etc?
Really !!wow thx ill try ssd then
SSHD is the best choice because with an SSD you can only store a few games and it's expensive af. I definitely recommend the 2TB FireCuda
SSHD's are mediocre in overall performance, especially when you play a lot of games over time. They are barely even comparable to a true SSD, and they don't have the warranty to back their performance up either. They are decent for sure, but I am not looking for a half-baked answer for the PS4 Pro. I want as little heat in it as possible.
Mythical Gnome wat. They perform better than standard HDs. And unless you want to dish out over £1000 for a 2TB SSD, the SSHD while it won't be as fast, it still has way more storage space. And I have a 2 year warranty
They aren't garbage but they sure as hell take a lot of loads and a lot of time to get anywhere near SSD performance if you play a lot of big games. And they still produce a lot of heat as well.
My Samsung 850 was 370 for the 1TB and I got the amazing Watch Dogs 2 for free with it on PC. Your pricing is crazy. I don't need or want a 2TB drive for my PS4, as my main system is the PC. I don't need that many games installed anyway. And the more stuff you install the less your SSHD can handle all that stuff. It only has a paltry 8GB of the good stuff. If you are looking to future proof a PS4 Pro I mean you aren't doing it with a SSHD. Not to mention heat. The Samsung Pro is best in class in heat, and that was important for me.
My 2tb firecuda stops working and i game only at night for couple hours.
I installed a 2TB 850 EVO SSD on my PS4 today. A worthwhile descision. This will go well for FFXV I bet.
+Eraezr Pretty much what i'm thinking about as i'm about to be playing that game for hours most likely doing speed runs for personal enjoyment. So this is looking to be worthwhile.
+Eraezr Did u immediately placed the ssd in the ps4? or did u do something to it by connecting it to ur pc ?
BoxHeadFred
I immediately placed the SSD in the console and used the software from the USB to instal the PS4 OS.
also any problems with it right now? how much space was left when u installed the system?
BoxHeadFred
So far none. I've got about 15 games (like the Witcher 3, Rocket League, Until Dawn, etc) installed + updates and I've used about 30-something percent of the total memory. If you put something more than 1TB sleep mode might occasionally have issues so I usually avoid that.
The system itself is less than 1.7GB I think.
My only complaint is that PS4 is SATA II and not SATA III so it doesn't utilize the SSDs power. But still, the loading speed has greatly improved in games like FIFA, TW3, etc.
The bottleneck isn't the hard drive usually, the game engine and software is. The engines and programs have a limit to what it loads and most drives easily have higher read/ write speeds.
+DigitalFoundry Mind doing a load time test with the Nyko Data Bank seeing as it uses a 3.5" HDD for the PS4.
Only thing I can gripe on here is, they're not utilising the Hybrid drive correctly. The 8GB SSD attached to the mechanical drive, acts as a cache. Meaning repeatedly used slices of data, will load faster, with the slower mechanical drive, doing the rest. Doing a cold "first run" on it will only show a small increase overall, compared to mechanical.
Why don't they speak about the SATA II installed on the PS4? That's the main reason the SSD can't read & write at full speed.
Jayden Valentine --+
Plus the internals were made for a HHD not a SSD.
No, its not. Ps4 pro that has sata3 is not faster with ssd than regular ps4.
Love your videos guys. I always watch them as soon as they upload :-). Keep them up.
My PS4 slim had some issues with the HDD unfortunately I was not able to save my save data for all of my games and I didn't have PS+ so I said well bye bye HDD and purchase a Kingston A400 of 960gb and being honest it was a great decision everything is so smooth now from the menus to the games, installing, updating, playing, and also something really important noise and heat has been reduce a loot, so great deal for me and many many years to come on my PS4.
You need to update the video with games like Division 2 or Destiny 2.
i love how the hybrid has absolutely no information about the actual drive performances printed on the drive. it doesn't show R/W times, it doesn't show transfer speeds. it doesn't even show how fast the spin is or how big the NAND cache is. now i know from them talking it is a 1TB 5400rpm with 8GB NAND cache. BUT my point is that it isn't fucking printed on the damn disk itself, which is a huge annoyance when you are dealing with client pc's, or just later reference when u forget. i have an issue with this, cause i HATE searching the model number and then spend an uncertain amount of time looking for a site that actually has those specs listed.
The SSHD will be as slow as the normal hard drive until you have used it for a while. It learns to put the things you use the most on the ssd part after it has been on the hard drive. This makes the experience over time better and it explains why it was slower before.
Quite interesting that stock 1 Tb PS4 offers significantly better loading times which approximately equal those of hybrid HDD. Tested it on Bloodborne and Witcher 3
It's good to see this done now, because most people who did these articles, did them at the launch of the PS4. There's newer SSD's now as well as larger games with more harsh requirements but also optimisations too.
I've got an SSD in mine and I bought Witcher 3 2 months ago and haven't played it yet, having seen the performance in this review, OUCH :/ that's kind of appalling.
Appreciate the review, this kind of stuff is interesting.
Time for a new test. Lets hope that it gets Bloodborne quicker to load.
The problem always is that the console, might have upgraded its motherboard to handle faster speeds then before. But knowing sony it still has weird limitations.
PS3 has Sata 1 meaning you could put any SSD in there as choosing a very speedy one has not gain anyway. The system was to slow to use it anyway. Yet an SSD in an PS3 did elevate some of the problems some games had. It definitely sped up loading times in GT5. And even Skyrims chests got a boost.
If a chest in skyrim got to full and who isn't a hoarder! Then it would slow down on an HDD as it has to write down every time you take something out or put something in. With an SSD you still don't have enough memory on the PS3 for it all but at least the SSD is speedy enough to cut that little pause at least in half.
Really don't know why MS and Sony opted for SATA II. Was the cost of SATA III really that much more?
Putting an SSD in the PS3 is a good idea as it makes the OS run a lot smoother. PS4 needs more space and so it's just too pricey for me to upgrade.
I bet you a normal 1 TB drive would be the same as the hybrid. These loading times are straight streams of data and the cache cannot help much with this.
I prefer the ssd's to hdd's. Depending on how much you want tio spend - can go from a entry level ssd like the OCZ trion that was used in this testing to
a ssd that has higher storage and better performance. Maybe with the up-coming consoles like ps5 and the like - having the ability to use a M.2 ssd
instead of the "Sata" drives that the current consoles are designed to use would allow for overall better performance.
It’s seems you predicted the future.
The innovation and creative thinking that goes into doing these tests is simply mind boggling :O
+Rehan Chougle not realy. if you have a half a brain you would know that data trasferspeeds are higher on a ssd.
LisandroCalejo uve clearly misunderstood my point. I ws talking abt digital foundry using creative ways to make videos. I obviously knw the advantages of an ssd. Bt i guess ur the only one with a full brain in the world. Thank you fr ur kind opinion
Rehan Chougle its not creative you just record the fotage its theres no fancy programs . but i have to give it to wichard and the rest . thses guys put out good content
Touche. Peace
Could you please test the SSHD speed after several respawns of the same location/characters/assets? I assume the strength of SSHD is in re-accessing the same cached data repeatedly.
LOL at 0:06 Richard is all like "You fockin wot m8?"
I usually hate cloud based stuff, but... if the ps5 has a 1TB ssd, space will be at a premium so what about this: Limit install size to 16GB. When you hav to load, simultaneously use the SSD, the Blu Ray drive, and the internet. In my case, internet is 300 Mbit/s, and a blu ray drive 10X transfers up to 360Mbits/s, so in a 13 second load, you could be getting 1GB of data from the cloud and the BD drive combined.
Also, I just love seeing everything work together, even if it just cuts down loading times by 1/4th
Very good test, thank you very much. Have wanted to know how BloodBorne would benefit from an ssd, for quite a while.
At Fallout 4 at Console the difference between loading is big. Between Console (SSD) and PC with SSD is again a huge difference 28:36 to 10:97 seconds loading time (Diamond City).
Project Cars: HDD loading time on PC are 14 seconds (SSD 10 seconds) and console 32 with SSD.
0:57 wichard stare deep into my soul
It's worth mentioning that the PS4 has no native support for Trim commands for SSD's so after time the SSD becomes fragmented and read times suffer badly. I had a 1TB 850 Evo in mine and noticed a huge drop off in performance once the drive started to fill up sometimes worse than the stock HDD. I would personally go for a 2tb 5400rpm drive which due to it's small platter size is just about as quick as a 7200rpm drive or if you do not need 2tb just get a 1TB 7200rpm drive. This will give the best all round increase in performance.
Most SSDs since 2015 have built in Trim as a hardware feature. Also the main difference between a PC and PS4 is you're most likely not deleting a lot of files on a PS4 resulting in trash unlike a PC where you tend to be deleting cookies, cache and temp files all the time.
Not radically different, but those little 10-30 second chunks add up.
Right now ssd upgrade might be needed more than ever... To load Cyberpunk textures faster...
Exactly what I was looking for again thanks
I like SSD, loved them from the first day they came up, i really hope OCZ's got better after they went bankrupt the first time. Because i had 2 or 3 breaking up on me, like zapp, gone from bios, all files gone, the old Sandforce Controllers were a pain in the ass when it came to reliability.
Your reviews become much more professional since the last year.
Excellent video. I'll be using this to test against my 2TB 7200RPM HDD.
I can make a tea when Witcher 3 loads...
Can you please do another test on PS4 Pro when it launches now that it has SATA3? The new Seagate SSHD FireCuda looks promising as well as the newer OCZ TR150 SSD. I, and many others, would greatly appreciate this test! Thanks!
Richard please stop murdering people with your death stare! XD
I know it's not the best but the first thing I did with my PS4 is upgraded it to a 1TB Western Digital Black.
I've heard that there's not much of a difference the 5400 and 7200 RPM drives on the PS4 since the console was designed with 5400.
Regardless I don't think the load times are that bad with my Western Digital Black 1TB.
Lol, Rich is looking at Tom like, "Dog?, what the fuck is wrong with you?"
I have Fallout 4 on Intel 910 400GB PCI-E SSD and as I progress in the game the loading times are getting worse and worse. There's definitely something wrong with that game, it has by far the longest loading times of any game I have played in recent memory.
I can picture a console gamer being more than willing to pay for more storage on a HDD at current prices, however I think there may be two console gamers in America that would be willing to pay $150-$160 for a 480 gb - 500 gb SSD. If I were to ever upgrade my PS4 HDD to SSD it would have to be at least a 1 GB version which is over $300 and that costs as much or more than the console. I think most console gamers will go with a 7200 1 gb or 2gb HDD. I personally put a 1 gb hdd in my PS4 and I know the value of SSD's as I use a 1 GB 850 EVO and another 500 GB 850 EVO in my gaming PC.
The first thing I did on my PS4 after jnboxing and testing it was working was to change the hdd for an ssd. I was playing FfXIV at the time and zine changing is a very common thing so that made the experience much better
My last ever Console was a N64, we had no loading times back then LOL
But now I know why so many Games have tips and stuff in Loadingscreens, that you mostly never can read before the Loading is done on PC, poor Peasants!
i cant hear you over the music
Would like to see 7200rpm SSHD compared to that 5400rpm SSHD.
6:28 I'm not sure but i don't think the game starts to load until after the little story summary plays. Removing the video made my game load much quicker i'm sure
I upgraded the stock ps4 and later ps4 pro hard drive with a hybrid Seagate. Pretty good to be honest.
So SSHD is still the way to go, not quite as fast as an SSD, but faster than stock + a hell of a lot cheaper and higher capacity for lower cost well, definite best bang for your buck.
Do this test for PC too.
Hybrids price are really good.
Rich's stare makes me moist
Love this channel. Your accent are music to my ears too :D
What about a 7200RPM drive? The SSHD is 5400 too, so there is potential for the 7200 rpm drive.
Thanks for this fellas! So an SSD is quite drastically superior in most examples here.
I'm looking at getting a 1/2tb SSD for my PS4 when I get more money saved or when they come down a bit more in price (average 2tb SSD is still about £500!).
My question about this now is is there a difference between SSD models performing in a PS4? is it worth testing various different models of SSD or will they perform relatively the same?
I thought SSHD really only sees a benefit on repeated loads? The flash drive stores the most frequently accessed data.
Such a shame Seagate doesn't do 7200rpm SSHD anymore, I have one, and it's amazing.
I'd really like it if developers gave the option to commit all resources to loading rather than produce tips, or render while playing music.
Apart from game loading times, how does SSD perform opening other apps and also turning the console on and off?
the reason why some of these games or any game has insane load times on any platform especially on an ssd is because of the cpu speed. ive tested a quad channel ramdisk which is 4-40x faster (across 4 benchmark criterias) than a samsung 840 pro which is faster than the ocz trion in this video and theres no difference in load times. the bottleneck becomes the cpu because the loading and dx11 games themselves are multiple single threaded workloads which shouldnt be confused with multithreaded workloads. the cpu tested was a 3930k at 4.6ghz. thats an i7 6 core 12 thread workstation cpu. the ps4 cpu is a 2 module 8 core 8 thread cpu with 4 cores in each module (i think) running at like 1.8ghz or something close. i guess what im trying to say is - pcmr!
***** that doesnt make sense because youre comparing a drive that is fast enough to cause the cpu to bottleneck during loading to a drive thats so slow it will definitely be the bottleneck.
vs what im talking about is using a drive fast enough to cause the cpu to become the bottleneck then use ramdisk which is at minimum 4x faster than the ssd. if storage speed was limiting the speed of your load screen then ramdisk being 4x faster would result in 4x shorter load screen. there was absolutely no difference. so sata3 ssds are fast enough to not be the bottleneck. in between each test you should reboot to clear ram so you dont give one or the other an unfair advantage and skew your results.
to confirm this you afterwards you can use maximum processor state setting in power options to downclock your cpu to like 1ghz or as low as itll go then repeat the test. youll discover your load time has increased.
here is article showing what ive already explained community.pcgamingwiki.com/page/blog/_/features/utilities/dimmdrive-ram-disk-for-games-r172
the ramdisk is 10x faster than the ssd yet it only loads 1 of 5 games faster than the ssd and not by a factor of 10
***** i dont know if you made a typo or totally contradicted yourself. if loading time is the same on a slow drive vs a fast drive then what do you think is causing the bottleneck? because there obviously is one. (and something sounds wrong with your pc.) the gpu is faster than the cpu. the ram is faster than your storage drives. if 2 storage drives, one faster than the other, load at the same speed how many components are left to blame? doesnt matter if its a high end i7 or the best i7. having the best doesnt guarantee anything. its all about how the game is coded. and dx11 games are coded as multiple single thread loads. so load times hinge on the single thread speed of your cpu
lets exaggerate your statement a bit both ways. what happens when you load from a 1.4MB floppy disk or dvd drive or usb2 drive? wheres the bottleneck? what happens when you load from a samsung pm1725 with 5.5GB/s read and writes with 1 million iops? wheres the bottleneck?
Although the X1 can't replace the internal HD, I would like to see a test of X1 with a External SSHD, SSD and the Internal drive.
Hey DigitalFoundry, how about trying another interesting test if you ever get a chance? Since the Steam controller came out a few months ago and can kinda make a "console" out of a PC, how about testing the speed and responsiveness of a consolized modest gaming PC (maybe even an Alienware Alpha) in Steam Big Picture Mode, games, and boot-up vs an actual console? Maybe a decent console can be made out of a PC? Can even wake a PC from sleep with the press of a button like a console, and very quickly.
Loading times is a good excuse for a few puffs on a spliff, lol.........
Does the newest CUH-1200 PS4 model use that same weird internal SATA II to USB bridge? If not, would it benefit any more than the older models from an SSD?
I'm not that familiar with the way PS4 records the screen, that is there a certain buffer somewhere, or (as I assume) it is saving the videofile straight to the HDD. If that is the case then I wonder how will the SSD comply in the long run, as in continuous writing wears it down in much higher scale compared to traditional HDD. I've actually installed SSD to my PS3 which improved the loading times clearly, but the thought of constant writing with the PS4 is a bit of a consern to me.
Love my SSHD.
Bruno Alves how much u buy it ?
From 500gb hdd to 2tb sshd for $60 is totally worth it if you are heavy digital owner.
To my understanding a ps4 doesnt even use the ssd speed fully. From what ive read the ps4 uses Sata II speeds which between a sshd and ssd isn't that much. If the ps4 used Sata III the SSD would be even faster by a couple secs at least. Almost every ssd will max out the 300MB/s of SATA II. The Sata III at 600MB/s is a different ballgame.
You guys should test high performance ssd and different brands of them
What are the RPM's in the Hybrid?
Also I like to see another video like this comparing the SSHD, so we can see if after a while still holds to its value.
Everybody acts like loading times on PS4 are TERRIBLE! Almost every game I've played loads way faster than last gen.
These two guys should be given trolls of the internet award.How many daily flame wars have these guys started?
Holy Fuck wtf are this loading times on consoles??? even with a SSD
BTW good job guys! love your videos
I think it's fairly clear: SSD is fast as shit and it's a reasonable and valuable upgrade to make. Also, it looks like the PS4 is actually able to take advantage of the SATA 3 connection, unlike many were thinking.