New Ham Radio Shack Build Out Episode 5: Installing an Outside Coax Single Point Ground Panel

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  • Let me demonstrated how to install the Outside Shack Coax Single Point Ground Panel and populate it will all your coax.
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  • @knifemaker2472
    @knifemaker2472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for these! So many never show grounding processes. Slick, sleek build. Great job!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome; hope it was helpful.

  • @AlvinMcManus
    @AlvinMcManus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately in California any block wall that is built to code is completely filled with concrete grout so the only way you get through one of those block walls it to call in a concrete sawing and coring company and have them shoot a hole for you. Fortunately most of the residential building here is wood frame construction so just a hole saw and a 4" TC core bit (can be rented) for stucco is needed. That is what I am going to do to get my coax in the house and I really appreciate this video for being a through and complete instruction on how to do that and do it cleanly.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful. For sure, various construction methods depending on region will influence the final install.

  • @mfc1965
    @mfc1965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! I'm so glad I watched this video BEFORE I drilled into my home! Might have very well ended up in my unintentional return to single life!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL, my advice doesn't often save relationships; this is a first! Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @LEEBO-56
    @LEEBO-56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice job, man. I'm really enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work. Be safe, EVERYONE. ( DESPERADO 56 north of Tampa FL waving a hand ) 73's to all

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words @leebo704, much appreciated.

  • @markgrennan5855
    @markgrennan5855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ham

  • @julianlong
    @julianlong ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. This inspired my outside termination box I fabricated and installed this weekend.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantastic, glad my build inspired you. Now on to the next project, cause they never end, do they.

  • @tomdonahoe3539
    @tomdonahoe3539 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a dissimilar metal junction on the surface between the copper ground strap and the aluminum back plate. I used a Harger HAAJC1/2 conductive sealant on the connection between the copper strap and the aluminum plate. This is supposed to prevent galvanic (dissimilar metal) corrosion between the strap and the plate and between the stainless screws and the plate. This is important to do for long-term electrical bonding in humid and wet environments. DX Engineering has a comparable sealant called "Jet-Lube" that is also supposed to be pretty good for this.
    In a past life, I designed electrical bond joints for aircraft applications using comparable techniques.
    73

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got it right on this topic. Thanks for sharing in the comments for others to see.

  • @thelostiowan
    @thelostiowan ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad your safe sir…..Applaud your focus and direction in our hobby 👍👍

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words.

  • @proa1999
    @proa1999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do not use a zinc plate, this produces contact potential differences. It is better to use a copper bar for the installation of the gas discharge tubes. This ensures better current conduction and lower contact potentials.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the view @proa1999. The plate I used was aluminum, not zinc; not sure if that changes your opinion. I am going off the recommendation of DX Engineering which is good company to be in.

  • @davidarmstrong8781
    @davidarmstrong8781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to your coax crimping video - thanks for this video, I used it to do the same project.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a great utility box to get everything organized. Yes, I need to get that coax video out there don't I.

  • @marcelotoniolo4434
    @marcelotoniolo4434 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow...well done. It looks great really and I am sure you are very pleased with the results.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, pretty happy with it. Anytime I need to work / modify or troubleshoot, I can easily find what I need. Thanks for the view and comment.

    • @marcelotoniolo4434
      @marcelotoniolo4434 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. I am ZL1MTO by the way. 73's

  • @temporarilyoffline
    @temporarilyoffline ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work, good results = great feeling!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching TO, always glad when you stop by.

  • @sdoville
    @sdoville ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job. Thanks for the great ideas.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you watching and commenting ShOne

  • @brentjohnson6654
    @brentjohnson6654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used the same box at my QTH. I am planning on routing some cable up to the attic up the wall and not through the outside. Most of my antennas are on a tower and I plan on routing a couple to the back field for a vertical and a beverage (we live on 2+ acres). All the best, 73 de KI5HXM!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It certainly allows you to get things organized. 2+ acres, sounds like a good amount of space for multiple antennas. Enjoy!

    • @brentjohnson6654
      @brentjohnson6654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HOAHamRadio yes it is a nice piece of land. We enjoy the rural Texas living.

  • @xe1rew
    @xe1rew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a nice job!!!! I'm taking some of your ideas to my ham shack. Greetings from David, XE2AD.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks David. Sharing ideas is what its all about!

  • @ipodbuff
    @ipodbuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please make a video showing how you have your antennas installed in your attic?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll add that to the list iPodBuff. Thanks for watching.

  • @giulianoggg2035
    @giulianoggg2035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great great and super great Job!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll admit, I'm pretty happy with the outcome of this effort!

  • @dougputhoff3215
    @dougputhoff3215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice info thx

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, thanks for stopping by for a look

  • @danfly-xy5qp
    @danfly-xy5qp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got a sub from me. Great job. Looks amazing. I would call this a professional install. I 100 percent will be following your ideas to do mine in the very near future. Thanks for all your secrets.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate the kind words and hope my content helps.

  • @mikemcdonald5147
    @mikemcdonald5147 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW What a nice clean setup. Well done. And the HOA will never know. Well unless they see this video LOL :)

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Mike for the view and comment. My HOA is pretty reasonable; unless I do something stupid, they leave me alone.

  • @norm_sueb122
    @norm_sueb122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleaser Norm_Sue B; thanks for giving it a view and comment.

  • @kurtwolter3984
    @kurtwolter3984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are amazing. ‘73!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks @kurtwolter3984, that's quite a compliment. I figure if you're going to spend your time, you should get something in return.

  • @notsure7874
    @notsure7874 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would put an upside down U shape of heavy duty urethane sealant around that pipe hole on the back of the NID box. I don't full circle around because any water that does happen to get in, can have a way to get back out that way. Big ole fat bead of OSI Quad, or Vulkem would do it justice.
    I reall dig that zip tie idea. I use marking tape because I have it (electrical tape for marking conductors) but those zip ties are also a great idea.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great input, especially with the upside down U sealant. Appreciate the feedback.

  • @combatsystema2240
    @combatsystema2240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ha! love ur call sign. mine is KA4BMG lol here in tampa

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The FCC originally assigned me KO4BMG.... I wanted nothing to do with the "O", but wanted to hang on to the BMG!

    • @combatsystema2240
      @combatsystema2240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for browning machine gun?
      @@HOAHamRadio

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly!

  • @sincerelyyours7538
    @sincerelyyours7538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very neat installation. I think I would have used a hole saw on the cinder/concrete block rather than punching it out as shown. Hole saws can easily be lubricated with water and some can even go through rebar. I'm very curious to see what your rooftop antenna farm looks like. I don't have an HOA but I do have a lack of space problem.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching, Sincerelyyours7538, showing off the attic antenna farm is on the list of future videos.

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I personally would not want to go through a cell that was rebar'd and filled just because of structural integrity, but a core drill definitely does a neater job. Very expensive though, and you'll need an SDS Max rotary hammer to punch a 4" hole.
      I have an SDS Plus rotary hammer, and I also have to cut rectangular holes sometimes (recessed j-boxes for outside power in brick and CMU / CBS) so what I do is basically similar to what he does here. I drill through with a 12" long 1/4" bit, I make sure I'm completely in an unfilled hole, then I make a series of holes on the line - VERY carefully spaced no more than a half inch apart. Then I use a chisel bit to connect the dots to make the big hole.
      It's not nearly as fast, and not QUITE as neat as a core drill, but it's pretty neat, and when I'm only doing it here and there it's fast enough.

  • @ekbanjosworld4926
    @ekbanjosworld4926 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clean! Very nice!!!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting; I'm pretty happy with the outcome of this utility box.

  • @AlvinMcManus
    @AlvinMcManus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sure glad that wasn't a bearing wall!

    • @Blake-W8LB
      @Blake-W8LB 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s an exterior wall…. It’s more likely than not load bearing… but that 4” hole will not effect the strength of that wall or home.

  • @midnightwatchman1
    @midnightwatchman1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that concert block core is not always empty, some times it has a concert some have cement and steel.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right Steve, here in Florida the cores have to be filled every so many feet.

  • @davidgettman4695
    @davidgettman4695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking good!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting David. Its getting there.

  • @daveengstrom9250
    @daveengstrom9250 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So this video is 10 months old now. How are things holding up? I like that idea of putting colored indicators on the coax lines. I think when I make my radio room I will use one of those boxes too. I have stick frame construction so I won't have to deal with cement blocks. I live far north so cold (-30 F) will be a consideration with a large hole in the wall, however. But that installation really does look good.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like new. Here in the brutal heat and sun of Tampa Bay, my greatest fear is deterioration of the plastic case over time...that is why I did paint it.
      I didn't want to go metal due to corrosion, so I had to pick my poison...plastic / metal, both with their issues.
      So far, so good.

  • @toma6684
    @toma6684 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Bob, I'm in the early stages of planning a new shack, similar in size to yours. You have sold me on the utility box at the entry to the house. I've been thinking/over thinking about coax and am curious what you chose for your installation. In hindsight would you make a different choice today? Lots of info online, but I place a high value on real use opinions from people I trust. Thanks for your thoughts. ... Tom

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I ran two lines of LMR 400 for my UHF / VHF radios; Amazon stuff I didn't know much about. The rest is all the same from DX Engineering, their brand. Wouldn't you know it, they don't keep order records that far back. They made custom cables at that time (lengths that I needed). Their brand is good quality, so that is what I went with. The cable isn't marked either, so I can't tell from that.
      I was VERY happy with the quality, so you may want to reach out to them, tell them your lengths, and frequencies you intend to operate -- I like their cable and their connectors.
      I also picked up some ABR Industries at Hamcation; it is also good quality. I think they will also do custom lengths.
      Although I got the LMR 400 on Amazon; wouldn't do that again. I'd go with ABR or DX.

  • @elwinmehlbrech6135
    @elwinmehlbrech6135 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What did you use to create a water seal between panel and outside wall?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exterior grade silicone calk; i placed a large bead in a circle around the hole, then applied the box. I also sealed between my block and the PVC pipe in the same way. Inside the pipe, you can use flexible electrician putty to seal it up.

    • @elwinmehlbrech6135
      @elwinmehlbrech6135 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@HOAHamRadio Thank you!

  • @JoeW7BWA
    @JoeW7BWA หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bob, Better late than never for me. I copied your setup, except I used a $23 Amazon service box instead of the expensive one. Got the MFJ patch panel, ground and bonding stuff, and bus bar. I’d post pictures, but TH-cam isn’t providing that option.
    Do you have a diagram you can share that shows the connections between the patch panel and your coax switches? That would really help, as I don’t have any diagram or info on how things connect. Many thanks!

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Joe, send me an email if you don't mind, and I sketch up what I do for my switches. thehoaham@gmail.com

  • @elwinmehlbrech6135
    @elwinmehlbrech6135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you create the video about crimping and soldering coax connectors that you referenced at 11:30 in the video?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately, haven't gotten to it yet... Sorry about that.

  • @Geschaefer
    @Geschaefer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you mount the polyphasers inside the box?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stud on the back of the polyphaser and a through hole in the aluminum plate; I think I show that it in the vid.

  • @cosmicosmofour6883
    @cosmicosmofour6883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, the antennas are in the attic? Why not just drop coax down inside the interior wall and skip literally all of this? You don't need lightning protection for indoor antennas.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CosmicOsmoFour, thanks for watching and the observation. My goal over time is to have more outside antennas. Putting the lighting protection there in advance means I can switch out coax, and don't need to get back into the box to add suppressors in the future.

  • @andrasr8393
    @andrasr8393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, I'm not following you on one point. Did you connect your lightning protection grounding (in the DX grounding box) to your home grounding? So if you are struck by lightning, are you wiring all that energy into your home ground and all your RF gear? Would you not ground for lightning separate from your power feed lightning and separate from your RF ground?
    I'm not all that sold on connecting your lightning protection to my home grounding.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Follow the experts: amzn.to/4dXB1rq

  • @ronvaliant9337
    @ronvaliant9337 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What size wire do you use for your ground to the ground rod?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was some time ago...so I don't recall. It was probably 6 gauge I would have picked up from Home Depot.

  • @Mandarin110631
    @Mandarin110631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KK7SWB Question from a new ham. Does the copper strap connect to the rod inside the box? It’s hard to see that. Ty

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it does. If you send me an email, I can reply with a pic.

  • @AndrewMurphy8383
    @AndrewMurphy8383 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Conrection most of the holes are filled whe layed

  • @LiquidtravelPhotography
    @LiquidtravelPhotography ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great series of videos. Can you tell me about that metal grounding plate you put in your utility box. What is it made of and where did you buy it? Also, where did you get the lightening suppressors? Thanks

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      The plate is aluminum and was part of the DX Engineering kit--link in the description. I purchased the suppressors from GigaParts. Thanks for watching.

  • @bob-N4REE
    @bob-N4REE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for this one. My house is the same construction ant breaking through has been a concern. Thanks!
    Now.... does that AC chase have some drainage holes in the bottom horizontal section? Looks like it ~might~ be a catch basin. While Florida is the sunshine state, there is a rainy season that can bring a lot of water.
    Of course, next I'd like to see how those cables make it from the chase over the top of the wall. ... and what the attic farm looks like. :)

    • @bob-N4REE
      @bob-N4REE ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, that notch around the other conduit is enough for drainage.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, the cut out has gaps, and the elbow connector also isn't really that water tight.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Bob, sorry it took so long to get to this one. I've add some views in the attic in a future video showing where the coax ran through the soffit into the attic.

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, and one more thought here in Florida. Everyone so often, depending on code, they pour those cores solid with concrete. So, with some bad luck, you could run into one of them.

    • @bob-N4REE
      @bob-N4REE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HOAHamRadio Ouch, that could be a problem. Thanks again.

  • @angelaleach2923
    @angelaleach2923 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where die you source the lightning suppressors?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      I used Alpha Delta connectors; purchased them from DX Engineering

  • @watchdogpedro
    @watchdogpedro ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks so much for this video, i am in HOA also, do you have to worry about the edge of the coas hitting the sharp edge of the 4 inch
    tubing?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you cut the PVC to length, smooth out the edge with sand paper and its all good. Also, since the coax isn't moving, there is no constant abrasion happening.

  • @midnightwatchman1
    @midnightwatchman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 6-inch hole looks a little bit of an overkill, I know it is more comfortable to run cable, and could the earthing copper strip can it be a round cable

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว

      For me, it was exactly what I needed; I tend to have more gear than most to support what the TH-cam channel needs for content. Many users will have 1 feedline...then this entire utility box is overkill. Thanks for watching.

  • @firemarshal17
    @firemarshal17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which lightning suppressors do you use?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I installed Alpha Delta brand in my utility box.

  • @MarkDecamps
    @MarkDecamps ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the lightning protectors necessary with your antennas in the attic?

    • @HOAHamRadio
      @HOAHamRadio  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Mark. Over time I'll be using more outside antennas. Putting the lighting protection there in advance means I can switch out coax, and don't need to get back into the box to add suppressors in the future.

    • @tmastersat
      @tmastersat ปีที่แล้ว

      No they are not

  • @charliesanti3485
    @charliesanti3485 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

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