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Waste of Money: NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti Review & Benchmarks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- The long-awaited NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti GPU is out!… of stock. But if you wanted to see what $1200 got a scalper, we’ve got our full review of this opportunistic gouge of a video card.
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When NVIDIA sent its RTX 3080 Ti for review, we didn't yet know the price of the card. Learning of the pricing in the live event really changed the course of the review: At $1200, NVIDIA is opportunistically gouging its customers in a predatory fashion. The RTX 3080 Ti vs. the RTX 3090 is a carefully set narrative, as is the RTX 3080 Ti vs. 2080 Ti or RX 6900 XT -- but versus the RTX 3080 and RX 6800 XT, we see a different story. In this review and benchmark of the NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition card, we'll test noise, thermals, memory temperatures, gaming performance, and power -- but we're cutting the review short because, simply, it's an aggressive push in price that doesn't match the performance hike.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Don’t Buy the Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti FE
03:48 - Taking Advantage & Gouging the Market
06:46 - Frequency Validation vs. 3080 FE
07:35 - Fan RPM
08:06 - Rainbow Six: Siege (4K, 1440p, & 1080p) RTX 3080 Ti Benchmarks
09:29 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider (4K, 1440p, & 1080p)
11:25 - Total War: Three Kingdoms (4K, 1440p, & 1080p)
12:40 - Red Dead Redemption (4K, 1440p, & 1080p)
13:50 - Noise Levels
14:23 - Power Testing
15:15 - Hot Memory, Overclocking, & Conclusion
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Do power gamer testing just because why not
3x 4k monitor’s
Discord watching 4 streams and streaming yourself to both discord and twitch
Browser watching 3 twitch streams and your own
Recording your gameplay with ShadowPlay and OBS 1 raw and 1 pre-encoded for TH-cam uploading
Using RTX voice
ShadowPlay FPS counter
3D body tracking and face tracking Avatar because why not
Game obviously a Vram hungry one because game’s are only going to use more Vram over time so stuff the card full
Just really push the hardware and see what happen’s because I’m curious what a 3080 would do vs a 3090 under the same overuse scenario and im more interested in seeing if the 3080 can even do that without crapping out due to running out of Vram even if thats simple paste looking model’s die to bot being able to load the model’s and texture’s
I dont know how you measure the power draw on 6700 xt, but i have Powercolor Hellhound 6700 XT (3 fan) that even with OC didnt pull more than 215W and you have stock with more..
@@Eklerche well the bio's limits the max draw, voltage will change the draw as there is normally a fixed amperage behind it, and then there is heat, hotter the card the slower it runs
so you need to look at the bio's limit, crank the voltage up and make sure its under 60c and then you can crank the core and memory, remember these arnt Nvidia card's or RDNA 1 and older, these cards will happily go over 2.6GHz
also its under a furmark load, a powervirus push it to the absolut max test that is used to create the load
This issue i had on the 1080ti past year, and the 3090 had simular issues. I was thinking it was a G-sync problem. I tried many different setups. But not changed screens. So it might be an driver to.. for me it's a hard skip. I did own the 3090 for 3 months. But it was not good enough for 4k yet. Some games sure. But the card struggled to get 60fps in many titles that i was playing at that time. We had å few unicorn titles that was good. But not worth the price. Im optimistic on next gen to be the card for all 4k titles. This gen was a finger off to be there. Need that 20% bump
@@commanderoof4578 You didnt get my point i know how to OC my card it still doesnt draw what he is showing in the graph.
Would love to see the Nvidia email about "revising your editorial direction" when it arrives.
Hand crafted by spinach!
Oh this reminds me. Why is he still covering Nvidia?
This 🤣
Oh its coming lol, can't wait
Why would they do that?
I love how Steve most definitely would've preferred literally getting robbed blind rather than enduring the pain of a disappointing product.
Yet another card that we cannot buy, or we can only buy at an insanely high price. I would feel better if Nvidia just beat the hell out of me in their parking lot and left me for dead.
@@BillClinton228 Dude. It's just a fuckin product.
@@thecrazything95 Must consooooom
@@Noah-lj2sg aren't jokes supposed to be funny?
I doubt he thinks this is disappointing. Its just the pricing thats a let down.
The 'Ti' here stands for 'Tiny Improvement'.
They used to be a big step up.
Terrible Investment
I mean, it's basically the same performance as a 3090. Pretty much in line with Pascal ti being close to the titan xp. Same old same old, really.
@@Kholaslittlespot1 there wasn’t much between the 3080 and 3090 to begin with, absolutely no room for a Ti variant in between those. The ti is a pathetic increase over the 3080.
@@idrinkmilk282 it's getting less and less for sure. Also, today I got a low vram error in blender when the same file was fine on a 1080ti with a GB less vram.
Losing confidence. At least I got it at RRP so can sell it on if needed.
PC & Electronics reviewers like GN are one of the few literally last bastions of honesty and integrity out there in one of the worst Money Grabbing Eras of our time!
At this point Nvidia can just set the price to $2,000 just to see what would happen.
They will probably still be selling out.
The 3090 can sit pretty comfortably completely sold out with a 3000$ MSRP.
@@PilotTed Nahh it's not a risk. These things will get scalped up still, And people out there with cash burning a hole will want one bad enough to pay 500+ extra! The game is so crazy and out of control but is still running.. And there's money to be made.
They totally could. Which is why I disagree with all this price gouging narratives that Steve and so many are pushing. Things are worth exactly what people are willing to pay. Who told people it's NVIDIA's job to give people cards at affordable prices? Last time I checked it's a businesses job to make as much money as possible. Welcome to capitalism 101. That thing that always gets a bad rep today but has still managed to bring more out of poverty then all other economic system PUT TOGETHER. That thing that has led to places like America being the number one place people want to migrate to. lol All I see is a bunch of sour grapes especially with today's brainwashed youth. And this is coming from someone who was stuck with a POS GTX 660 since 2013 until a few weeks ago when I finally managed to win a newegg shuffle for a 3060. Do you think I wanted to pay almost 700 bucks for it? WTF am I suppose to do with this POS gigabyte 850w PSU that nobody wants? But it is what it is and I'm not complaining. It was still a lot cheaper then ebay or Amazon.
Hence the values of other Gaming Products The Scalpers won't buy will be the ultimate gaming values. I remember when Retro Arcade Cabinets without the tech of now the prices are like from $5,000 - $500,000 to get one for constant play. Because the tech now days are so advanced, we all can make a Retro Arcade Machine ourselves.. also you can buy an Arcade Cabinet Kit for $300 or even less.
The real reason The Scalpers are taking the GPU market is because of The Miners. Also the demands are too high. You can also thank Businesses like The Car Dealerships having a high demand for Chips as well, the one product you need to make a GPU.. Also looks like The Scalpers aren't taking normal computers hilarious enough. Also The APU Market is getting better and better. And of course Scalpers aren't gonna buy all the cars because that will destroy them and they really could too.
@@GrenadeMagnet eh I was almost with you until the bootlicking capitalist part. A lot of it is just built on exploiting third world labor and extracting their resources, and plus I've learned through plenty of struggle and recessions, been taken advantage of by every employer I've worked for. Today's youth is jaded about capitalism for a reason, and not necessarily saying China or Venezuela is good or w/e strawman people can throw at that. But yeah I agree GPU manufacturers are just doing what's good for business lol😆
"70% more money for 10% more performance" so a repeat of last gen? Makes sense.
No. Worse than last gen
2080 ti was at least more like 20 to 30% better than vanilla 2080, this is much worse.
5%
@@douglasrichardson1589 I kinda enjoy my 699$ rtx 3080
@@DuBstep115 Still a price hike for one of the smallest generational improvements in a while
Testing the NVIDIA RTX 4090 - th-cam.com/video/0frNP0qzxQc/w-d-xo.html
2-3% better. To quote a Blood G-d, "That's placebo levels of improvement. That could be bugged and you wouldn't even know."
I don't know Steve, Nvidia showed a lot of restraint by not calling this an RTX 3090 12G and charging $1489.99
RTX 3090 TB ('Thin Boi')
@@redfinewine very nice.... do you happen to work at Nvidia? 😂 Seems like something those folks would go for at this point
RTX3090 Lite
@@redfinewine "RTX 3090 slim" haha, just like our wallets after Nvidia is done with them.
they called it an rtx 3080ti and charged 1200, kinda the same thing lol
I wonder if nvidia approves this "editorial direction" hahaha
I will happily pay this price as long as it's retail that's still less than the scalpers want for a 3070.
@@agrojester1156 The only reason they are charging this much is because of scalpers and shortages. You are being played if you think $1200 = 'value' or a 'good deal'.
IMO, you shouldn't be happy to pay this inflated MSRP unless you are happy to continue paying absurd prices for every new generation of GPUs.
@@WickedRibbon value and good deal are subjective.
@@WickedRibbon a good deal is relative and subjective. he said, as long as it less that 3070 scalper price. If you can get this card at MSRP while you have to pay scalper price for other card, then it would be a relatively 'good deal'. Is the card itself a good deal, performance/value wise? hell no.
@@agrojester1156 here in my country (australia) a 3070 is somewhere around $2,200 aud (and out of stock)
I miss the days of pascal.
Would love to see an updated rating of the card with current pricing at only 100 more than the non ti model
right way different now
*non-TI
Check your spelling and grammar, then _maybe_ your wish will come true.
Give to get, y'know? :-3
apart from 3060Ti no other Ti variant is worth it. they need extra power for minor increase in performance.
@Dildo Jizzbaggins are your parents siblings
Would love to see a VR flight/driving sim added as a benchmark for these kinds of benchmark tests
Dramatic intro ✅
Classy title ✅
This gonna be good
Don't forget the sassy description lol
Money gun✅
Stfu ✅
If you haven't got the message by now, being a fanboy is a waste of time. These companies want to extract the maximum profit as they possibly can.
I don't understand stanning for these greedy companies. Especially Apple.
Apple fan bois know no shame. There is some kind of sick honor Apple freaks have for those who sacrifice their wallet. It's pure insanity.
They will never get the message, most have more money than sense 🤷♂️
On the one hand, this is marginally better they take this excess miner/moron money than the scalpers
However the price is still awful.
Yep. It’s capitalism.
There will always be fanboys, in the 60s there were car fanboys, today it's Apple, console and graphics card fanboys, if the rest of us voted with our wallets these people will change their tune.
I dont care what card I have as long as its good value for money, unfortunately AMD have also jumped on the scalper bandwagon. When you only have 2 companies to choose from and they both charge high prices I'm pretty sure thats called price fixing.
I think Nvidia has concluded that the regular 3080 should have been priced higher, and this is a correction of sorts.
How right you were
hahah they corrected it again with the all the 40 series. Thanks Nvidia!
@@salami99 iI grabbed a 3080ti fw3 for $500 this june , and Happily upgrade to a 4080 when it hits 500$ next year!
I just found this channel yesterday. I’m super impressed with the production quality and effort that goes into each video!
:D Give me all your money to buy an RTX 3080 Ti lolololl ....xD Paid extra $1000 for just 6% more improvement xxxxxD...., So Creepy Just like me : D Creepy EV!!L Stepp@nWOLF Joe Biden.....................................: P
Remember when top-tier gpu's were 600 or 700 bucks max?
The 3080/6800xt were the last of that line.
I remember when they were like $300. Adjusted for inflation maybe $500 in today's dollars. Can't even get a last generation midrange for that now (5600 XT).
Pepperidge Farm remembers..
$150 yes
1080ti going 4 years strong
Jensen: "Look at me, I'm the scalper now!"
Brilliant 👏
Wish I could heart this.
Underrated comment
That what he said 2012 ...
You made me spit my beer
Steve is the only reviewer that makes me laugh my ass off.
As someone who hasn't followed the whole GPU products and doesn't have the time to research everything - the overall conclusion is buy a RTX 3080 if it can be found at MSRP?
I find regular 3080s for the same price or even higher than the street price of the 3080 Ti, so for my situation, it didn't matter that the OG 3080 is better bang-for-the-buck, the price isn't right now and the 3080 Ti is more available for a less-scalped price compared to their respective MSRP, so going with the 3080 Ti in this market isn't a bad deal considering the state of things.
what is MSRP
@@maxdota3918 default price by manufacturer basically
That's what I'm going for, mostly because anything else would be overkill for me and it seems the most reasonably priced for performance
@@V.Hazezz Exactly. The main arguments against the 3080Ti are about the price, which is irrelevant being that you can't buy a 3080 at MSRP right now. They're arguing an imaginary argument and it's stupid.
Steve: *useful feedback*
Nvidia: holy shit *money gun* write that down write that down
Ehhh...Nvidia has a money factory...they don´t need some piew piew money gun...
Such things are for amateurs! Muahahahaha (Nvidia)
Maybe I'm just cynical now but I would rather pay scalper prices directly to the company than to some a$$hat on ebay
@@Azerkeux You think there would be stock for this this will be scalped for 2000$-2500$ in a day or two at least 3080 scalps are around 1500$ lol this just made it worse because it will decrase amount of 3080 s made
@@arteljus983 but a money gun means they can just sit there and hold a trigger down and the money fly right where they want it instead of having to pay somebody to carry all their money somewhere 🤣
@@Azerkeux Why would you pay scalper prices to anyone? Just wait till this poppycock is over. When people stop buying the price will go down. There are 3090 cards out there for 4000€! From stores! It´s pathetic and disgusting.
Sad part is, they will most likely still sell like hot cakes thus making these ridiculous prices "normal" 😔
All Nvidia has to do is stop making the none ti version and theyll sell however many they want to make. Market manipulation at its best.
@@NemesisXII That's not market manipulation dude, don't throw words around just cause they sound impactful, that being said, Nvidia is a piece of shit company for doing this.
That is also my fear. This year proved that people are willing to pay twice as much therefore msrp going forward will be twice as much
Can't stop consumerism!
@@soap5547 Shorting supply to manipulate demand and price is a form of market manipulation. Are they doing this intentionally? Only they would know. Is it s shit situation all around regardless? Yes.
What a horrible card. Please send me that defective one so I can dispose of it. I promise.
I'm speccing out a workstation and was wondering if the 3080ti could be a viable alternative to the 3090, so it means a lot to hear you say, explicitly, that it is not.
yea still works, just not in situations in where you need lot's of vram
@@henry03100 If it was for gaming that would probably be fine, but it's a 3D and graphics workstation, so I ended up springing for twin 3090s. 💸💸
@@mpbMKE wow, I'm buying a rtx 3080 ti, as I simply can't afford a rtx 3090
@@henry03100 It's what I make 100% of my income from, so it was a little easier to see it as an investment than an expense. But... yeah, that was a lot more than I ever thought I'd be able to spend on a computer. 😂😂
@@mpbMKE Are you a 3D artist then? As I am buying a 3080ti, because I'm planning to step up my 3d work
Anyone else miss the days where the flagship card was $500?
Still running my sweet 980 tie. But I'm getting scared that it'll brake soon. It's getting to be an old boy.
I'd even stretch it out to say that I miss when flagship cards were at most $600-$700.
Same thing happened to smartphones.
I remember back in 2013-2014 when the most powerful Samsung phones costs like $700 with all the bells and whistles, and those sweet Maxwell times. But alass, that was long time ago
@@SlainByTheWire At least it lasted longer than your basic English classes.
Inflation is B****.
Nvidia, “Gimmie all you’re money” Me: IM TRYING
I will happily pay this price as long as it's retail that's still less than the scalpers want for a 3070.
I'm *Tiing
@@agrojester1156 me too actually lol.
I’m gonna try to get this tomorrow and fail. Honestly don’t even want it. I’d be much happier with a 3080 or 6800XT. But both don’t exist at retail price so what’s it matter.
I got my cards at IMINERS,CO and they are great group of people. Cards are cheap, support is insane, shipping is fast and they provide wholesale discount. What can be better?
i got their cards and they are insane group of people. Awesome company.
Why does it sound like a crypto mining software for mac os?
@@jamesjohnson-ly5we you're sure there legitimate?
@@catminer7436 It's a scam. These are bot accounts.
@@catminer7436 ?
Lol even 2 months later the 3080 "tie" jokes are still hilarious.
@Deathplan yeah haha it's funny coming back to this. It's just impossible to get the 3080 near MSRP so the 1200 price point seems much better (if you can get it). I was able to snag a Gigabyte 3080Ti Eagle at 1200 and it will come this week. I wouldn't normally spend 1200 and certainly not on a gigabyte, but comparatively this was the best deal I could actually get. The alternative was a 3080 that was only *50* dollars cheaper, or a different model of the Ti that was *350* more?? It's all bonkers.
Steve: "This card isn't worth it."
Nvidia crying while dabbing their eyes with hundred dollar bills.
It's a nice gig. Steve makes money making stupid videos like he is the good guy and he still makes $$$ off Nvidia's back.
@@FtGFA this might be the stupidest reply ive seen
@@Usr999 it's true don't see what's stupid.
@asdrubale bisanzio "fanboi" I know you're a loser without you having to tell me. Anyways I just don't like being treated like I'm stupid and manipulated. Ohhhh Rage against the evil Corp. People just need some lessons on market forces. I bet negative videos get way more clicks anyways. Carry on.
@asdrubale bisanzio LMAO. They're evil cause they won't let you play Fornite at 4K? Please. Their product. Make your own shit if your don't like it. They owe you 0.
Do you remember when a selling point of the 30 series was how much less it cost than the previous series? I'm thinking about that a lot lately.
@@PilotTed What incentives did the retailers have to do that, though? The product moves which means less use of warehouses and they pocket more money than they would've normally. I'm sure the bean counters are extremely pleased.
@@enrique6335 the encentive should be brand loyalty. If the brand made sure they only sold to gamers and not scalpers, more people would trust their product and like the brand, sadly most of these brands have done nothing to retain brand loyalty by doing nothing to make sure no scalpers got their products.
@@PilotTed I think I'm missing part of the plot here. Your original comment disappeared.
Hehehe.. that *WAS* the selling point but not papa Nvidia is lookin’ for that dough
@@actualhyena yeah it did, youtube being fucking stupid and deleting people's comments for no reason. Oh well.
June: "This product is not worth $1200". Now: I would instantly buy this card if I found one for $1,200. I'm that desperate.
it's definitely worth 1200 lol. even as an upgrade from a 1080. that's what? one paycheck? and you can essentially run any game at 60+ fps 4k ultra graphics without the micro stutters and frame drops that the 1080 and 2080 had? anyone hating on this card is a hipster or unemployed.
@@xMaverickFPS uhm, pretty sure it's not, comparing it with the 3080 msrp price you're paying 60% more for 10% of increased performance at best, just because people don't want to pay a few hundreds dollars extra for little improvement doesn't mean they 're unemployed or being hipters, they're actually being smart with their money. Because people with your mindset Nvidia has been successfully pulling this bullshit for years.
@@tanpham937 sounds like someone's jealous lmaooo
and good luck finding either at MSRP... at any practical retailer, you're only paying 25% more for the Ti - the base 3080 being priced 400 more than the Ti's MSRP... lucky mine *_was_* actually MSRP lmao. git gud.
@@xMaverickFPS Why would i jealous with someone that bought something that almost twice the price but with little performance difference. Bro, i’m trying to give you good advice here but it’s seems to me that your ego is too big to get it, fine by me then i’m not the one who lose money here. And no i’m not gonna buy anything right now, not when better cpus and gpus are coming out next year. Get smart bro it’s good for you.
@@tanpham937 and i was explaining that literally no one gets these cards at MSRP unless they get extremely lucky... of which, i managed to get lucky, finding a Ti at the 1200 MSRP (bundled with some other stuff for a wholesale deal)... which is 400 *_cheaper_* than the retail price of the *_BASE_* 3080...
sure i had to buy a few other things, but i was building a new PC anyway.
I agree with the premise of the video but it's difficult comparing MSRP's when no card is going for that price at all. Currently, over here, the 3080ti is selling for about 200 Euro more than the 3080 which is worth it imo.
What's not worth it, is that the 3080 itself is selling for like around 1500 euro
holy shit 3080 ti is like 1700 bucks I paid 1840 for my 3090 at the beginning.
@@ZinoAmare more like 2000€ for 3080 and 2500 for 3080ti now in Europe
I felt “lucky” buying a 3080 amp holo at 1400 vat included few weeks ago
sure but it still doesnt justify nvidia taking advantage of the situation to scam people
@@carloalbertoranzani8041 you can buy it now for 850🤣🤣
@@droneshotsantoine1805 yep but that’s more than 7 months later
If you wait another two years I bet you could buy it even cheaper :)
"We apologize for wasting your time, and ours with this one..."
You killed me haha! Thank you for your content sir.
LMAO love that intro 😂
This intro made me want to watch until the end. +1 to GamerNexus & Steve.
:D Give me all your money to buy an RTX 3080 Ti lolololl ....xD Paid extra $1000 for just 6% more improvement xxxxxD...., So Creepy Just like me : D Creepy EV!!L Stepp@nWOLF Joe Biden.............................................: PPP
I love how every reviewer's conclusion is pretty much the same: Pointless product you won't be able to buy anyway, so what's the point.
Except a certain "reviewer" who shares the same name as a famous programmer...
@@ExtremeMetal i was suprised when i saw his review of this card !
it almost felt like he was brain washed
@@wailking18 I genuinely feel quite shocked after watching that video, it just doesn't make any sense. It's a good job the only videos I typically watch from them are the entertainment ones. I think I'll be unsubscribing and just sticking to GN
@@ExtremeMetal
Linus Shill Tips isn't just a meme.
@@lisafairymeadow2034 I see that now
Nvidia is slowly becoming more like Apple
Crapple
Ryzen - Samsung
Nvidia - Apple
Considering that the 3080 does not go for MSRP, and is constantly 1000 to 1200 dollars, I'd rather buy a 3080ti at MSRP
I just did this. No idea when the 3080 will ever be close to $800 again. Everything seemed to be $1200 or more.
Pulled the trigger on a $1449 3080ti, extremely excited
@@northwestclasspnw7974 same im coming from a gtx 960 2gb so it has been a long awaited upgrade.
I love how your titles are straight to the point. Really clicking the videos just because you're not even attempting to clickbait. Thank you so much for being real.
Linus's Review: "Its a good card at a great value as an alternative to the 3090. Recommend"
GN Review: *N O*
Linus doesn't review stuff, he creates ads.
@@alexfizz7402 I usually forget that channel exists because I've had it blocked for so long.
I'm kinda sick of Linus as well. He shows charts where liquid coolers are outperforming the biggest and chunkiest air coolers every time and then he says air coolers are better at cooling. Whut.
I know there are advantages of air coolers and for most people, air coolers are sufficient, but I don't know who is paying Linus to contradict himself.
@@jeffb.6642 you guys are so edgy, calm down dude
LTT is a marketing channel, NOT a Tech channel. It does not belong in the same discussion as GN.
It's funny to watch this review, appreciate everything said, and go buy a 3080ti anyways.
Because while the imaginary price on the 3080ti may be "offensively" higher than the imaginary price on the 3080, in terms of street price the separation really isn't anything like that at all. It's more like a couple hundred bucks, which I'm okay spending for a modest performance uplift and a more appropriate amount of VRAM for 4k gaming. Obviously if 3080s were $699 this wouldn't be worth the premium but they're not. That number has no correlation to anything here in the corporeal world.
Mine is in the mail. I finally got it for an acceptable price. Benchmarks show that the memory helps for 4k compared to 3080 plus from what I saw the prices are nearly similar to TIs price. RTX 3090 vram is underutilized, and its existence for gaming isn't justified.
@@couchguy427 mine was just over 1500, but after taxes and shipping it was more like 1650 (which still hurts a bit btw, that's a whole freaking PC!), but it's hard to argue with the results.
You're absolutely right about the 3090, and to be clear it's not just that I don't think many things can physically *use* 24GB of, but that nearly anything that can is beyond even a 3090 in the first place. This makes the 3080TI a tempting proposition as the top "practical" card - just about all of the badwidth of a 3090, but with a frame buffer that's within reason.
Just to give an example of what it's like to actually approach 12GB of use, Mechwarrior 5 at "3440x1440" (DLSS Quality) with Ray Tracing jacked up, will use ~10GB of VRAM, and that would seem like a fine use case for this card, but it's worth noting that at those settings, the game also brings even a 3080TI to its knees, dragging down to like 40fps in action scenes. Having something use double that, most of the time, would just be so intensive that no card could run it anyways - same reason I don't care about the M1 Ultra's potential VRAM allocation. Yes, there are some workloads that are light on computing power but heavy on VRAM, but typically these things are high or low in a very hand-in-hand fashion.
As for the 3080TI, I'm pretty happy. The comparison with my old 2080 is interesting. In high resolution applications, the advantage in VRAM bandwidth takes the 3080TI to JUST about double my 2080 (both cards are OCed Gigabyte models), not just at 4k, but even my slightly-lower 3440x1440 resolution. But what I've found is that that advantage holds in *any* super intensive workload, even at lower resolutions. Unigine Superposition, for instance, at just 2560x1440 but max settings, had a performance curve of ~20fps on my 2060, ~30fps on my 2080, and ~60fps on my 3080TI (none of those rounded by more than 2fps). Star Citizen, when not CPU capped, performs similarly.
I bet other super heavy titles (Control, Cyberpunk 2077, etc) would behave similarly - the 3080TI commands a big advantage over the 2080, in workloads intensive enough to actually need it. More modest workloads, where I'm going from "already-high to merely-higher" framerates see more modest gains (sometimes down to "only" +50%).
My card caps at 350W of usage, and barely passes 70C doing it, even in a warm(ish) room, and it's really quite quiet at those temps.
Dang that was deep
I did the same exact thing on launch day. Watched the vid, even laughed a bit at Steve's hyperbole about gamers behind "robbed" (legit still cracks me up - no one's being forced to buy Nvidia products lol), and still bought my EVGA 3080 ti at MSRP. I've had the card since June 2021 and I still absolutely love it. No regrets at all.
@@Catamount1412 24GB will be mostly you doing 3D rendering and with multiple 3D editing applications opened simultaneously with very high resolution textures as Nvidia demonstrates in their video. Jay also has a video on about VRAM usage. It only make sense when "Time is money" in a production way, and you have money to spent or able to recover the cost from the work you done. Else, 3080/3080ti is the top for typical user/gamer. The Titan wasnt that old yet the 3090 can literally blow it away in certain "benchmarks", so imagine in coming years with Intel joining will boost up the GPU performance in comparison to the earlier generation. Don't have a presumption that " Oh the GPU just $300 more double the Vram that a DEAL". No, just don't. there are better things you can buy with that money.
Because of all this I've done something a bit strange at first glance I've gone from a 1060 6gb to a 900 series card ... £350 for a titan x I can sell my card for around £200 thanks to current market so for not much cash I've had a decent upgrade while people pay 600+ for a 3060 I'm pretty happy at that. Love 3x the cuda cores and 2x memory with a ludicrous bandwidth,😅
Steve deserves a Crown for his Honesty.
Thank God that there are still people like that out there.
Yes indeed, so true
@N Diesal fa sho bro hah
Your comment is the Crown.
:D Give me all your money to buy an RTX 3080 Ti lolololl ....xD Paid extra $1000 for just 6% more improvement xxxxxD...., So Creepy Just like me : D Creepy EV!!L Stepp@nWOLF Joe Biden.......xD
Yip. Plenty of big websites and YT creators getting big money from some companies to be gentle or stay on-side. Easy way to spot the websites are the ones that rate the Alienware gaming rigs as the #1 pre-built. Easy way to spot the creators are they just don't talk or play down the obvious issues people like Steve wave in front of your face.
When a GN review is < 20 minutes, you know the product really isn't worth your money.
Has GN ever done a review in less than 20 minutes? Like, ever? Lol.
@@kelvinwang2485 I can remember 2080 super lol.
It was basically Steve saying "yeah, this is 4-5 percent faster than 2080/1080 Ti, that's about it"
That's not exactly true. He has several long videos about how bad a product is. Generally, a solid product doesn't need a lot of time to tell you.
Yeah 3060 and 3080 ti are the biggest disappointment of this series. Seriously what were they thinking?.
And the manufacturing team and i am smelling a lot of last minute decision... I mean what they are thinking lmao. I am telling because, see here:
3070 8 gb
3060 ti 8 gb
But 3060 12 gb 🤣🤣🤣
Now 1080 ti = 1080 + 35%
Then 2080. = 1080 ti + 5%
Also 2080 ti = 2080 + 30% with 3x $
Now 3080 ti = 3080 + 5% 😂😂😂
Well when miners getting a WHOLE amount of gpu, thats all that Ngreedia© needs. They really don't care about us gamers.
It's like when LockPickingLawyer's videos are less than 2 minutes haha
As of yesterday, Bestbuy (possibly local only) has the MSI 3080ti Ventus 12gb for $720
Damn. My whole build cost less than this card alone. That was before the shortages though.
Same here. I feel 🤢
Lmao@ The intro. It's good to see you guys having fun.
would u pay 2000$ for a ps5
never its way too overpriced
@@ranman2106 nope. I’m still rocking my 2080ti
You guys? It was all Steve, Steve was the buyer, the seller and the camera guy (believe it or not).
@@sharki9876 ,"It's good to see you guys having fun" isn't a compliment. I wish you were half as smart as you think are welp.
Intel: "Steve called us a waste of sand..."
NVidia: "Ouch, that's harsh, well at least he won't steep that low for us..."
Intel: "..."
Waste of sand is definitely worse. Waste of money implies no one should buy it at that price, waste of sand implies it should never have existed in the first place.
Hey by the end he did say this card is a waste of silicon, just to make things extra clear :))
@@EvilTurkeySlices 😂
Meanwhile AMD continues to embarrass themselves. Lol.
@@Kubush1 they all do embarrass themselves
6 months later, that $400 difference is worth it if you just want a friggin' GPU if your store has a 3080 ti in stock and not a regular 3080.
Yep, just bought the 1080 TI FE today...
Fak the 4000 series, its gonna be the same shit we saw with 3000 series bullshit launch. Or at least I want to avoid going through that mess.
Intel is already being an absolute a** with their paper launch GPU and AMD has shown us their stupid prices are here to stay with the prices they got on their recent launch of their new refreshed cards...
My GTX 1080 non ti is a real slow/sluggish card to use for learning 3D art and game development, I got the cash but not the time to wait for better prices/products.
I paid too much but at least I will be upgraden even less frequently so instead of 5 years upgrade cycle on GPU I might do 7 years this time around. If more people did that I bet these manufacturers will lower the prices cause nothing hurts a coorporation more than watching growth slow down.
says you
Hear what you're saying bro, but coming from the audio industry, customers pay 300%-500% (at least) for 5-10% performance gain. Now that's crazy...
Steve: Overpriced 3080 FE
Linus: Cheaper 3090 FE
Scalpers: YES?
The thing is is it not a cheaper 3090 FE because it can't do the art workloads that 3090 can do because 3090 is 24GB
So the correct analysis is that 3080ti is an overpriced 3080
Jayztwocents: i would save the 200 dollars and buy the 3080ti FTW 3 and not the 3090 LOL
@@theseventhammer I agree, looking at it as a cheaper 3090 is a biased view. I still want the 3090 for AI workloads though.
Steve isn't on a negativity streak, new products are just mediocre/not worth it
@Bilbo Baggins dude mlc is twice as expsnsive
Partly because of the chip shortage is making things worse too, pretty much anything new, besides CPUs, are a ripoff.
Same as mack from Worth a Buy game reviews, hes just cynaical at all the AAA titles becuase its not about gaming, its about profit. Same shit here
Wait till all gaamer crowd around here learn what happened in 2008 and what is inflation.
im so happy with my asus 2080 TI strix from mediamarkt , got it for 800 € brand new :O 3-4 Months ago
I still bought the 3080Ti...from NewEgg...what other choice do I have? Wait another year without gaming? I've been waiting since October 2019...
Honestly at this point it's about what's in stock. I have been trying for over a year to get a 3080 for MSRP, I refuse to give scalpers what they want and encourage there despicable actions. If I see a Ti in stock over a 3080 I'm pulling the trigger even though it's twice as much for at extra 10fps.
You realize supply and demand dictates the price of any good right...? The demand is up and the supply is the same or lower. That means higher prices!! Belly up to the counter and pay current prices or wait to pay even higher prices in 2022. Cheers mate!
A bunch of 3080 Ti cards are appearing on eBay and are selling for almost the same msrp as the non Ti. They are all from Italy and listed as New. What does this mean?
"We apologize for wasting your time, and ours with this one..."
Oh no Steve, no need to apologize.
You see, I gotta do *something* while waiting for GPU prices to become reasonable again.
th-cam.com/video/X9r0DNNpyTA/w-d-xo.html : D MSI is Mass Robbing your Money for RTX 3080 Ti again & again...xD
reasonable adjusted for inflation
they probably wont be.
@@La_sagne only thing inflated is their ego.
@@La_sagne I'd like to get whatever you're smoking, seems to be good.
Watched Linus’ video first. Takeaway from Linus’ video “It’s pretty close to a 3090 and $300 cheaper, nice!
Takeaway from this video “Jesus Christ why would anyone buy this at that price Nvidia is robbing people”
I'm happy to buy a cheaper 3090 myself. The Evga 3080ti ftw3 ultra was beating a FE 3090 on Jay's video ... like what that's awesome!
I think linus caters more to the rich kids and trends, this guy is targeted at the more knowledgeable or willing to learn side and I love the volume of data he crams into his vids.
yeah, me too, now i'm confused what to think.. but we won't get that cards at msrp anyway, so yeah...
@@moondog8829 yOUR RIGHT....Linus did not mention at all the large MSRP price difference between the 3080 and 3080 Ti....The way this card is priced makes it like this card should have been the 3090 and the current 3090 should have been the 3090 Ti.
Yes but we all know that Linus is in Intel's and Nvida's back pocket anyways.
3080 Ti FE just dropped 300$ on Bestbuy. Would that make it worth it to purchase?
i got one a few days ago and have had absolutely zero issues.. id go for it!
It costs 900$ USD now, I think it's worth it
I nabbed one at this price.
Yep just ordered an ASUS TUF OC version for around this same price. Looking forward to trying it out.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that these brutally honest reviews are helping pc gamers make wiser and more informed decisions?
Yeah, even the tech reviewers I once held in high regards (Jayz2cents and Linus) seem to be bought and paid judging by their Nvidia shilling
@@xabraxasx I like others but when i want to buy some parts GN and HuB are my go to reviews.
It seems to have an opposite effect cuz years ago people would not get a 3000 dolar gpu sold out
Informed decision:
Choice A) buy a card you can't get
Choice B) don't buy a card you can't get
It's really hard to make the "I'm definitely buying that product!" decision when the product is over $1200 and not even available. These are all going to scalpers and there's nothing any TH-camr can say to stop that. Hell, short of actually damaging your PC, this product will be sold out before it's even for sale.
I appreciate how much effort put in testing and structuring the thought/idea delivery of the video, GN a small channel in terms of employees have much higher quality than bigger channels that have 40+ employees.
I hope you guys keep having the same level of enthusiasm and integrity as the channel keeps growing.
*cough* LTT *cough*
Tbh I normally like LTT but their vid on the RTX was just rushed. Comparing the card to the RTX 3080 as well as the 3090 would have given the full picture. To be fair: same for the GN review. I see his argument about the 3090 not being primarily for gaming but that doesn‘t change my opinion on the matter.
@@horsthorst11 I know a lot of people been calling LTT out for shilling for nVidia or other big companies, when in fact their problem is just they stop caring and rushing videos out, LTT didn't even bother retesting the 3080 and other GPUs again to give them a better chance when compared to 3080Ti.
@@D4RKWingsS Yeah you‘re right. I can kinda understand it though. Those embargos on publishing the review creates a lot of competition amongst tech review channels. That‘s not an excuse though and will give them a bad reputation if they don‘t change it.
Every channel i have seen so far was like "Oh Nvidia, harder, harder" 🤦♂️
Nvidia's strategy:
Price the GPU in accordance with the scalping prices, so that the availability of the GPUs goes slightly higher (you still want to keep the demand high by fake-engineering low supply), & finally pocket the RTXnomical interests of your GPUs' scalpers yourself.
Very sly strategy, indeed, Nvidia.
lmfao, looks like you won't be getting sent cards to review next time. We appreciate the honesty.
10% gaming improvement over the 3080 for 72% higher MSRP? I think I'll pass.
Even If you could buy it for the MSRP?
If it's at msrp, it's cheaper than a 3070 where I live
You’re complaining about a price that doesn’t exist....
To be fair, the 3090 is even more ludicrous in the price to performance ratio. It's just sad that Nvidia really decided to tack on an extra $200 on the 3080 Ti because in this GPU climate, they could get away with it.
Not even %10
Nvidia be like... "Look at me, I am the scalper now"
💯
🤣
Nvidia has been a shady scalper on many occasions since the 680. The 2000 series is probably the worst.
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Nvidia became the villain.
Look at me, look at me, eh?
*I am de skalpeh naw*
Well I got this card for almost the same price as I could get a 3080 for so I guess I’ll take the slight upgrade
$1200 USD is like $1600 AUD.
The 3080 TI sells on average at about $3000 AUD, over $2000 USD.
So please give me contact info of scalper selling these at $1200 USD please :P
I love how steve is honest about this opinion when it comes to products. Thank you good sir.
I will happily pay this price as long as it's retail that's still less than the scalpers want for a 3070.
Happily pay that price?
Lol jesus dude, just wait another year for the market to go back to normal. By then youll be wanting the 4080 anyways
@@sjn8768 It's looking like it may take 2-3 years for that to happen sadly. Hopefully you're right. This is probably one of the worst times to get a PC for gaming this century, if not ever after they went mass market.
Here, here! I just watched Digital Foundry's "review". The level of BS in that review, like when they said" Value is kind of questionable". No shame.
Thank you Steve for keeping it real, for telling it how it is... "this is a money grab".
@@agrojester1156 you are still getting scalped but just by the retailer so
I love when Steve gets mean. Everyone loves mean Steve time.
Confirmed
Except for Nvidia and other brands who Steve is mean to.
Only because he does it when deserved. He's still an awfully nice kinda mean.
He digs up the shit we all smell from nvidia
I mean, he's not even being mean really. Pointing out NVIDIA's bullshit isn't mean.
I’ll just keep rocking my 2080.
I'm just getting back to PC building after many years, and I'm very grateful for your work. In putting together my list for my next build, I seriously considered the 3080Ti. You're saving lives. I'll be contributing to your Patreon.
I recently built a PC and bought a 3080 Ti. I get the points in this video.. but considering we're finally on the backend of the GPU shortage, paying $1250 for something GOOD, after seeing lesser cards going for more for like a year.. it felt absolutely fine for me.
In a vacuum the argument holds.. but given how the market has been, I'm thrilled with my purchase honestly.
@@TizOnly1 poor argument; if you could just wait, as in not needing it for work, then it's stupid to just accept to be scalped
"oh no but I wasn't scalped that bad" is the kind of reasoning as to why we're in the current broken market
Ebay $850, getting some deals from the crypto fire.
every other generation: TI is gonna be 30-40 percent faster!!!!
3000: TI is gonna be 3-4% faster!!!!!!
The 3090 is the real "3080 Ti" and should be compared to the 2080Ti.
The higher number is just a marketing thing.
The new 3080 To is more like a "3080 Super" with a much too high price. But I guess why wouldn't they in the current market. At least realistic
@@TheRailroad99 Correction. Neither the 3090 nor the 3080 Ti is a Titanium card because they all have the same processor as the 3080.
I’m confused. First off I’m assie so prices are a lot higher (exchange rates and what not). User bench mark says that the the 3090 is essentially only 1% better than the 3080ti. Now where most places I look the cheapest 3090 I can find is 3700 AUD whereas the 3080ti starts at 2500 AUD (most of which are sold out). Basic 3080 starts at about 2200 AUD. The 3080ti I am currently looking at is 2700 AUD and I trust user bench mark, essentially what I gather from this is I save 1000 AUD and loose out on 1% performance and spend 300-500 AUD more depending on which card you buy and get considerably more performance. (aside from vram) but that can’t be that bad because every other graphics card has a lot less vram than the 3090. I’m planning on buying this card for a gaming station, and now I’m unsure whether I get a normal 3080 or a 3080ti as I will never afford a 3090 in this situation. my friends also like to brag their gaming stations so I want a better one. I’m not over clocking the card and I don’t play any games that where showcases in this video.
I got a 3080ti simply because a 3090 wasn’t available. I got it at msrp. The card is amazing.
I was going to hold off to get a 4000 series, but I got a sweet deal from Best Buy last night for $400 ($900 for the GPU w/ a $500 gift card I had). I couldn't resist.
@@Songya28 just got one on eBay for $600 pretty excited, I play at 4k on a 3070 and can’t wait to go from 100-120 fps with dlss to 144+ with dlss
@@fettuccine723 That's a good deal. I just got an o11 EVO case and doing a custom water loop. I want to keep my GPU and CPU temps as low as possible
@@Songya28 hell yeah man, I take my side panel off the side and don’t let my cat in and it keeps my pc cool lmao the 3080ti I ordered is a blower card so not I can probably close my case haha
will "tie" ever stop being hilarious?
3060 and 3080 ti are the biggest disappointment of this series. Seriously what were they thinking?.
And the manufacturing team and am smelling a lot if last minute decision... I mean what they are thinking lmao. I am telling because, see here:
3070 8 gb
3060 ti 8 gb
But 3060 12 gb 🤣🤣🤣
Now 1080 ti = 1080 + 35%
Then 2080. = 1080 ti + 5%
Also 2080 ti = 2080 + 30% with 3x $
Now 3080 ti = 3080 + 5% 😂😂😂
Well when miners getting a WHOLE amount of gpu, thats all that Ngreedia© needs. They really don't care about us gamers.
Nope only good meme of the year
The 3060 ti is far superior to 3060 so that is one instance where TIE is way better
When you realize that it's called Ti which is short for Titanium... which is what the Geforce2, 3, and 4 Ti was named after.
When that launched it was pronounced 'tie'... as it was during the Ti4200, 4400, and 4600.
@@tim3172 deep lore
Hey, just wanted to drop a huge 'THANK YOU' for saving me the time and money of making the effort to get this card.
I just stood in line for 8+ hours at best buy, to score this gpu. I had instant buyers remorse, but after speaking to the best buy manager he explained that they received twenty 3080 FEs. Twenty... There were over 500 people in line for this drop with most chasing the 3080. I had no chance of getting a 3080, and I needed something better. While I'm sad that I couldn't get a 3080, I'm glad I could get something without supporting a dirtball scalper.
Would your review change based upon 07/22 prices?
"You don't need to watch the rest of this video"
I watched anyways.
Rebel!
Tech Street 4 Life
Was not expecting this level of a quality intro with this limited amount of time, you guys surprise us as always
And he even cared enough to do so with relevant data and not pre-record this video days/weeks in advance and submit a frothing fanboy review without pertinent price data. *cough Linus cough*
This is a standard intro they do for all GPUs
What’s surprising? a 30 second skit? I’m sure it doesn’t even take them that long to produce given that they are a tech channel after all.
@@elhehe8476 it's still gonna take quite a bit of precious time especially if youve worked in video/filming/editing environments.
Just so you know, a 3080 TI FE 12GB card where I live is $2200 Canadian right now
I got a 3080 for US$ 770 a couple weeks after it was launched, and at the time I thought it was too expensive, but now I'm glad I did that. RX 580 are selling for US$ 800 now at my local retailers, for god's sake.
I trust Steve more than Linus when it comes to gaming hardware
Steve does in depth product reviews, Linus sells products.
Linus reviews gaming hardware in the sense that Billy Mays reviewed "another fantastic product"
The way I see it, Steve is a hardware reviewer who sometimes cracks a joke to poke fun at the manufacturer of the reviewed product, while Linus is an entertainer who just happens to show off PC gaming hardware because he likes it but predominantly works as an entertainer. There's value to both types of video, but mainly they're different perspectives.
Nah, this video is a smooth brain take and Steve seems out of touch because it's assuming we live in a perfect world where GPUs are readily available. In reality, if you can get your hands on a card you should do it.
ofc, linus is bought
The $700 MSRP price tag for 3080 looks like chump change these days.
Literally ! 2k plus for 2080s and shit like what.
@@GRENZG honestly I'm this market I wouldn't even care at this point. Thank the lord LEGIT bought my 2080s a couple months before the drought.
@@GRENZG Its either you get a card now at a jacked up price or wait another year for prices to come down. If the 3080 and 80ti were at MSRP I wouldn't even consider the Ti but my local retailers have the Ti priced 200 dollars up over the non-Ti cards, weird to think the 400 dollar gap between the cards on MSRP is now smaller thanks to scalping duopoly having 3rd world retailers.
:D Give me all your money to buy an RTX 3080 Ti lolololl ....xD Paid extra $1000 for just 6% more improvement xxxxxD...., So Creepy Just like me : D Creepy EV!!L Stepp@nWOLF Joe Biden................................xxxD
That was their plan all along
After a bunch of researching and reading, trying to figure out what to buy, I've come to the conclusion that nothing is good and everything is bad and the only way to avoid this is to spend $10,000 lol
But I am very very glad I found this channel, cutting right to the core of every topic and issue, gotta love it.
3080 is the Goldilocks card in the Nvidia lineup (at original price). I tried a 3060ti, it was too small. A 3090 for hobbies, is too big. My 3080 is juuust right.
I feel you dude, I'm so lost. I have about 7k I'm willing to spend and just screaming "SHOW ME WHAT TO BUY!!" After a month of reading about the different components and literally everyone saying that everything is trash
@@snakedietdan That sounds SO familiar lol.
@@snakedietdan ik u posted this a month ago so u probs know now, it's not that everything is trash, it's that the prices are trash bc of the market. You have 7k, but if you're anything but a professional designer, you should be able to build a fantastic 4k gaming rig for less than 2k. However, bc of the market, u gotta spend at least 3.3k
Lol
With a 3070ti going for $950+ right now paying $1200 for a 3080ti doesn't seem like such a bad deal, what a world we live in nowadays
you wont get a 3080ti for that price tho
@@DerRusher
Antonline 3080 ti and 12700k for $2150 is the best it gets right now.
The "Ti fighter" bit killed me, excellent roast overall!
lol. That muppet from Nividia calling it a Tie.. cracked me up. At least they should know their own product?
@@Jasonsadventures they dont give two f's about the consumer when they get hired. its a game of sales.
@@FacTi0n I tell you what, I miss the days of being able to buy the highest end voodoo card you could get for less than 200 dollars :), 60fps all day every day without even a fan..
@@Jasonsadventures yeah man, my first computer i threw together was in highschool and had a 7600 in it. i cant imagine many kids in highschool can even afford to assemble a computer today. i feel bad for kids that love tech.
@@FacTi0n luckily theres pc builder simulator on steam now lol, never run out of virtual 3080s again
"You don't need to stay for the rest of the review"
Nah, I'll stay. Seeing companies get roasted by the reviews for doing stupid stuff makes me feel better. XD
I'd rather have the money go go to creators of GPU than useless parasites - scalpers. $1200 is a horrible price in normal market, but it's extremely cheap for the foreseeable future. Hell I'd be glad if they raise MSRP to $2000 and be readily available than watch money flow to scalpers-parasites.
@@artemaung5274 I hate the parasites, but can you really hate them out of principle when they are making more money than you using scummy but legal means? Be careful what you wish for. You are telling me that you are okay with them using Rolex's method of searching customers, artificially limiting their supplies, and act like a goody two shoes that always had constraints in procuring silicon for GPU dies?
This will age well... like milk.
@@artemaung5274 you are the reason the cards are 1200$
Whats funny is that the 3080ti is now cheaper than a 3080, because of LHR...
Great times to be alive...
I almost wonder if the non-Ti models (apart from the 3090) are being discontinued. The once in a while I see a card come into stock now it is ALWAYS a Ti model. Haven't seen the regular 3070/3080 come into stock in a long time.
They know the 3080 is a much better deal.
I can only find non TI cards.
@@ragingmcqueen So you saying Nvidia is restocking RTX 3080s too? Because from Nvidia it means $700 MSRP. But i'm not a big fan of the limiting 10 GB of vRAM which is really a bit limiting for 4K gaming.
@@ragingmcqueen How often Nvidia restocks them on their website? Trying to get one for msrp.
@@Z3t487 idk I buy mine locally
NVIDIA knows it will still sell out, doesn't matter how overpriced it is.
Conductor shortages, production is vague.
This is the correct answer. If they sell it at $1200 and it still sells out (which it definitly will even with out scalpers) then it is a "good" price in terms of basic economics.
I´d buy it for msrp, for i am sitting on rx590 right now.....
@@hanshansen5058 hey man, I've never tried AMD cards, what would be the equivalent to rx590 on NVIDIA?
@@danielu.4957 1060
*Uses aggressively precise mathematical calculations regularly*
"Not that we were counting." 🤣😂
So your biggest frustration is "the price". That's not really anything to be frustrated about. The TI version is incrementally better and that's how these systems work (just look at your graphs). You're looking for astounding differences and the market has never worked that way. The problem with the pricing is a fault of the cryptocurrency mining market that depleted availability during the scamdemic. Your complaints are literally the same complaints of all RTX model since their inception. I had a 2080 and opted for the 3080 TI because it averaged the same as the 3090 except with a smaller footprint in size and electrical draw. The 3080 TI is nearly 100% faster than the 2080 so to me it was worth the upgrade.
It's not $1200 here in the UK. It's not even £1200. Major component retailers have this listed for £1749. That's more than I got my entire 2080ti pc for back in 2018. This garbage is out of control.
Still sitting on my watercooled 1080 ti, I refused to give any money to scalpers, so I will sit here until we get a reasonable alternative.
@AstroCat my 1080 started to artifact a few months ago, still managed to sell it for $400, used that money to fund my new rx 6800 :D
@@arthurmixed3323 you are lucky, dude
Good luck.
Took me about a month of trying at every opportunity to get a 3070 FE at MSRP. Best Buy at least seems to be trying to combat botters and the fact that I'm a regular dude who got one for gaming is a testament to that. Having said that, 1080ti still a beast and you're smart for waiting to upgrade.
MSI 1080Ti + G12/X62 FTW... Holding on to my £... I've got the £ but no way I'm paying these stupid prices...
Steve, you are legit the most credible guy I watch on youtube. As someone who has not just the same hardware but subsequent passions you have. I mostly share the sentiments and feelings. I have endless respect for you sir for speaking out on your platform freely.
~edited from voice text jargon to Eng'rish
@@xALPHAxJULIETx Smoke my pole
The problem is that in France (and you can see it on the official website) the advertised prices are ridiculous (on the non founders editions as the founders are nowhere to be found) on the 3090 (2000€+) and the 3080 Ti cost the same as the 3080 (1200€) it makes no sense.
It's the same in the UK. The 3080ti is actually cheaper than the 3080 on places like Amazon and eBay.
Same with the 3070. The 3070 is in some cases double the price of the 3070ti
@@mikeymo9363 are you looking that the 3080ti is a LHR? Some 3080s are more expensive cause they are FHR. Same goes for used 3070 FHR cards selling for more than 3070ti LHR
@@learntostrafe no I thought that too with the hashing and stuff but it's just all of them in general. I'm not talking a massive increase in price but the 3080s are sitting around £1300 while the 3080ti is around £1200.
This is just picky. He's complaining about a graphics card with a 7% performance difference for $500 more but not the slight 3% additional performance of the 3090 that costs $300 more? The cap is real.
No one can start scalping nvidia cards, if nvidia already done it by itself.
Scalpers: Challenge accepted
I will happily pay this price as long as it's retail that's still less than the scalpers want for a 3070.
3090: 1500$ 3080TI almost 3090 performance: 1200$
Why the outrage?
@@agrojester1156 This is not meant to come across as rude, but you are part of the problem
@@TheRealJohnHooper because people like to complain and cause a riot. I seen this garbage in the past. I remembered people were mad about the 980 Ti not as powerful as The Titan X and then all of a sudden because it performed as well for a cheaper price, everyone praised the 980 Ti like a God after they bought it..
Always surprises me how Steve and his team can be passionate but remain objective. Well done as always and thanks for keeping us informed.
The price to performance ratio makes the 3080 ti absolutely a waste of money. The shitty reality though is that regular 3080's are selling for $1500-$1600 here and the 3080 ti's are not much different in resale price. So if you do submit to scalping (which you shouldn't), it's more worth it to get a 3080 ti for $400 more than retail rather than 3080 for $700-$800 more than retail. The best option though is to wait all this shit out because eventually the prices will lower with time.
I wouldn't place all my eggs in the "cheaper later" basket! There is absolutely a push for cloud gaming and less ownership of physical items by everyday people. World conflicts, failing markets, resource shortages, unbelievable demand for chips all point to a future where you can either game on some mega machine through the cloud, or you can pay out the ass to have a good card for yourself.
1200 dollars would be a steal nowadays