AMD Ryzen 3600 vs 5800X in 10 games with fps, temps / worth an upgrade? (3060Ti)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 5800X in 10 games compared. System: RTX 3060Ti / Silverstone SG13 / Id-cooling IS-60 / ASRock B550M-ITX/ac.
0:06 PassMark CPU Mark
0:27 Cinebench R23
0:45 Cyberpunk 2077
2:22 System Shock remaster
4:10 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
7:11 Crysis
9:07 Destiny 2
11:10 GTA V
13:59 Ghost Recon Breakpoint
17:03 Rocket League
18:27 Fortnite
20:29 CS:GO
22:23 Results
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 5800X in 10 games compared. System: RTX 3060Ti / Silverstone SG13 / Id-cooling IS-60 / ASRock B550M-ITX/ac.
0:06 PassMark CPU Mark
0:27 Cinebench R23
0:45 Cyberpunk 2077
2:22 System Shock remaster
4:10 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
7:11 Crysis
9:07 Destiny 2
11:10 GTA V
13:59 Ghost Recon Breakpoint
17:03 Rocket League
18:27 Fortnite
20:29 CS:GO
22:23 Results
Pretty big FPS jump from ryzen 3600 to ryzen 5800x
Thanks for the video. I play mostly at 1080p with my 3060 ti and I've got a 5800x on the way to replace the 3600 that's served me well. I have a better idea of what to look forward to with my 3060 ti with it now. I'm excited for the better frame rates and an overall better match for the gpu.
Edit 12 days later: After replacing the 3600 with the 5800x and using it for a few days with a great cpu cooler (NH-D15s), I can say that if you have a great graphics card like the 3060 ti you should definitely upgrade if you can. The 3600 wasn't bad by any means, but the 5800x gives you the full capability of your pc.
Yes my goal was to get 60fps in Cyberpunk which was not possible with the 3600 but the 5800x is getting there
Nice to hear that. I bought RTX 3080 at premiere for MSRP and it's still with my 3600x so I will upgrade soon but for this new upcoming 5800X3D or to 5800x based on how 5800X3D will be compared to X
I dint think the r5 3600 is bottle
necking the 3060ti th-cam.com/video/go8BXoT4FHw/w-d-xo.html watch this video and you will see that te r5 3600 can handle the rtx 3070
@@kipoflipo8157 Yes, it is bottle necking the 3070. The video you linked to shows that the 3600 is as good as a higher core count cpu which is true, but it was before the release of zen 3 and zen 3 is the point of what I'm talking about. Zen 3 gets far better performance than any zen 2 cpu and this video will show you the difference th-cam.com/video/JLEIJhunaW8/w-d-xo.html
I've a 3600XT paired with 3060 ti. I'm having severe issues while turning on RT effects as 3600XT is a bottleneck to my 3060 ti. Did the 5800x help with the bottleneck issue while turning on RT effects? I plan to go for 5800x3d .
amazing work man !! exactly same Rig and i wanted to upgrade my CPU to 5800X3D which is a little stronger than 5800X so now i know what to do
whats the resolution of this test .
i have the 4k resolution is it worth for me ?
crazy to me how much the CPU can bottleneck. I've recently upgraded from a 1060 3G to a 1080, and it turns out my 1500x bottlenecked both! At 1440p! Another upgrade to the 3600 has improved things. I really don't know how a 5600X would handle something like a 3080/3090 anymore
Yes CPU bottleneck is very real at 1080P gaming. Consoles have fast 8-core chips so that will be the future for the next ten years.
@@panoramacircle3281 Actually no, apparently the PS5 has a max CPU frequency of 3.5GHz which puts it behind even the R5 3600 in games that don't use all 8 cores.
@Firewynn Games don't magically change when they're running on consoles to have better multicore programming. Regardless of whether the console or its OS is optimized to throw tasks at all cores there are inevitably things in games that will not be capable of being split across multiple cores/threads. Also, at any rate, silicon has already surpassed what the PS5 and XSX have inside as far as IPC, this compounds with higher clock rates to offer the absolute best performance in the vast majority of games regardless of multicore optimization.
@Firewynn You're not really being reasonable, logical, or sensible in your assertions. For a moment, let's assume that developers have some magical capability to make games perfectly distribute load across 8 cores (like the consoles have), if they had such an ability why would they not then have their PC releases do the same thing? The answer is, they would, but they can't develop like that and nothing Microsoft or Sony do changes the fact that many processes in a video game still cannot parallelize. Games that fully use 8 cores are non-existent, even on consoles, and games that leverage as many as 8 cores somewhat well are few and far inbetween.
I couldn't really be bothered to read your whole word vomit, you should consolidate your thoughts and stay a bit more on topic next time.
@Firewynn
Talking about some book you recommend...sure, on topic and oozing with brevity.
Applications need to be optimized to utilize multiple cores otherwise you won't receive a benefit. What you're trying to explain is a scheduler and it doesn't make a single threaded game like Minecraft run any better to have a better scheduler. The lowest level cache (and by extension, the fastest access to common instructions) is accessible only by the core it is attached to, only in some cases will L2 be shared and in others L3 will...when a CPU is executing instructions stored within the L1 cache a scheduler can do fuck all to maneuver the workload around to other cores unless they have the same things stored in their lowest level cache.
Moreover, there are thousands of things going on in modern AAA titles, some of these things require sync and will not split across multiple threads no matter what the scheduler wants. To this end, regardless of what any subjective reviewer says a series X or PS5 is comparable to with a clock rate of 3.5GHz and an architecture akin to 3rd gen Ryzen, it WILL perform significantly worse than a CPU with more IPC and higher clock speed.
And to tie it all back in to my original comment, because I stay on topic, the R5 3600 boosts well higher than 3.5GHz typically by a factor of near .7GHz...across 6 threads this difference will amplify to a total difference of 4.2 which would make up a 7th core in execution across less cores. All this to say, the only way a game (which typically doesn't pin more than a handful of cores) would perform better on a console than an R5 3600 is if it was well optimized enough to pin 8 cores. Conversely, the opposite is usually more likely to be true, higher clocks and IPC are far more beneficial to a game on ANY platform compared to a couple extra cores after you've got more than 4 cores in the first place.
thanks for the video
Something is off. It should not be bottlenecking the card that much. You can find video of a 3600x(marginally better) pushing a 3090 much harder than this.
At 1080p resolution without max graphic settings?
@@panoramacircle3281 It doesn't always max out the 3090, but the fps is significantly better. It's by Device Lab. I was wrong btw, they also used a 3600 non-x.
Should I upgrade to the Ryzen 5 5800x or Ryzen 7 5800X? I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 3060ti.
Many thanks people!
Now i know the culprit. It's my 3600 bottlenecking my 3060ti. I really need to get this 5000 series cpu.
As someone with a 3060 ti who upgraded from a 3600 to a 5800x recently, yes, you really do. The 3600 was a huge bottleneck.
@@pf100andahalf at 1440p, there wouldn't be much difference between 3600 and 5800x with a 3060ti.....mostly 10%. Or you play at 1080p? Then it makes sense
@@Gen_66 At 1440p it can be more like 20%. Ampere needs zen 3, period. Otherwise you're leaving lots of performance on the table. th-cam.com/video/JLEIJhunaW8/w-d-xo.html
@@pf100andahalf this link has 1600x, in the review there's not a 3600 or a 3600x. Difference isn't 20%.
@@Gen_66 Did you not see the 2600x? Let me put it this way, I upgraded from a 3600 to a 5800x with a 3060 ti and I got at least 20 more fps. I saw it with my own eyes with my own pc, but if you want to say a 3600 is just as good as a 5800x you go right ahead.
What do you think, is better to buy a 3070ti instead of a 3060 ti for 100$ more or is better to keep the 3060ti and buy a 5800X instead of a 3600? Thank you!
I have a similar setup: 3600 with a 3070. I also use ghost's windows with a bunch of debloat and let me tell you, the 3600 doesn't keep up at 1080p. It can't push high frames and when the game requires cpu, your gpu will stay at like 20%. Playing everything is shit. Just get rid of the 3600
Yes man, I had the same idea. In 1080 I have the same framerate as I had with a 2060 super so I agree. I will buy a better cpu and then a 3070 ti. Thank you
At 1080 a better CPU is preferred
Get a 5600/X and the money saved get a 6750XT.
@@itsatrap4986 5800x and a 3060 ti ? Good?
Would I benefit from this upgrade on my rtx 3060
B450 dsh3,ryzen 3600,6900xt bottleneck?
At 1080p yes bottleneck but at 4K it is better balanced
A mon avis, concernant la partie jeux, la différence que tu as ressemble plutôt a du cpu limited, vu que tu es en 1080p, et que pour le 3600, ta carte graphique n'est jamais a 100%, contrairement au 5800x, ou ton GPU est bien à 100%
Is it normal for my 3060 paired with 3600 to be getting 150fps (no higher) at competitive settings in rocket league??
I don't think so, use rivatuner to see if the CPU or GPU is underused
No, my rx580 with 3600 is 170+ fps
did you test Teardown?
that would be an awesome test with one of the teardown mods installed :)
average fps missing