Just look at the 3800X and why it's so unpopular. You will regret getting 5800X. You should either have gone for just 5600X or 5900X if you're that impatient to get a Zen 3 processor.
@@jonirojonironin5353 The 5800X uses the highest quality silicon chips AMD has. The (presumably) upcoming 5700X will cost less but won't clock as high and the 5600X isn't futureproof enough.
@@nami1378 i know this is late as hell but i changed the voltage on my 5800x to 1.2 and then set the clock to 4.7ghz and its run under 80c smoothly for about 2 years
Glad to hear some positive comment about the 5800x. Lol. I just picked mine up today. :) your comment after the amd presentation about the single ccx actually set my thoughts on the 5800x. Glad your enjoying it :)
Brian, just wanted to thank you for all the effort you put into your videos. Admittedly, a new Ryzen would be massively epic to own, but after watching your videos, I just cant get my eyes off of aliexpress Xeons and budget builds. Thanks again man!! (you've also inspired me to pursue a degree in I.T., so thanks for that too :))
Hell yeah brother, I got a xeon x3440 build for fun, considering it's age it's an absolute beast, I'm gonna buy a better mobo and get it on fast ram with a good gpu. (Also watercool and delid it, It can do 4ghz oc but it gets to hot on air).
Totally convinced by the power consumption chart! More cores would be nice when editing, but my computer is on 24/7 and this is a great balance of power vs heat/energy. Great job!
smart guy, I have a 5800x and for some reason my benchmark numbers are higher than some of these techtubers numbers are. For cinebench r23 I have 1640 single core score and 15515 multicore, I just used ryzen master auto-oc. For speedometer 2.0 (html performance that reflects web browsing responsiveness) i'm getting 171mph. Based on others scores on 5900x i'm getting better single core score and better speedometer 2.0. Based on techyescity's score it's better at gaming. So essentially the 5800x is just better overall unless you're doing something that can leverage the additional cores. If I needed a 5900x I would just get a 5950x. The only thing the 5900x is good for is being a budget video editing/productivity cpu. 5800x is better for the gamer, 5950x is better for the person who needs the extra cores for productivity, virtualization, etc. To me the 5900x just seems like an upsell/jack of all trades master of none. The only thing is, I'm not sure why everyone's numbers are so different. I've seen a lot of benchmarks that put the 5900x ahead of the 5800x in gaming, but comparing my scores to online 5900x scores the 5800x is better.
This cpu is a beast with undervolt. I have mine with 4925 mhz all cores with these settings in the bios or ryzen master. -30 curve optimizer, 123 ppt, 80 tdc and 90 edc. Temp idle at 32 and max load is 72 at full load. I do have a arctic 420 on it too though.
Finally, a positive review for 5800X ! Soon I will jump from my old friend i7 6700 to this ''nice to have for the next 5 years CPU''. Thank you Tech YES City !
It's the more (for the lack of a better phrase) forward thinking people like you and Bryan who would prefer the 5800x. Bryan is probably one of the top "value for money" youtubers out there and he chose the 5800x over the 5600x. Other reviewers of idea's of value for money is only looking forward 1 and at most 3 years. Their thought process is game for a year or two and upgrade to the next decently valued cpu and so on, adding cost to each upgrade, which will eventually even out the "wasted" money for justifying the 5800x now. In the end, for any competent minded person and whatever their idea of "value for money" is, money spent will even out. I personally got the 5800x and also plan on using it for the foreseeable future, as I did with my 4770k. Until the 20xx series geforce came out, my 4770k held out very well. I predict my 5800x will do the same.
I just upgraded my old am4 system to this cpu in 2023. I was able to get it on sale for under $200 so I feel like it becomes a great price to performance now. Only thing I'm working on is thermals. My old cooler isn't quiet enough for this monster. Hopefully a new cooler and some undervolting will do the trick and it'll get me through a few more years.
5800X is the one I was waiting for, in fact I waited for this specific CPU for years. The first non-cutdown uniform 8-core, and it'll be my CPU for the next 10+ years. 5950X is the only other CPU I would consider, 6-cores are headed to the grave soon when Squadron 42 comes out.
The 5800x Fits my needs perfectly I couldn't deny myself from it. I run a Linux VM, lite editing for youtube videos/streaming and playing games. I'll pair it up with a 6800xt!
yeah I would not go the 6800xt esp if you do lite editing for youtube videos/streaming as that's one area where team red fail hard, I was hoping to do a all team red build but their gpu's are behind the comp yet again :(
Thanks man, you really tamed my post purchase regret . Everyone was shitting on this so bad, I thought i made a bad decision. This def does the job for me cus i wont be using 10 or 12 cores as i dont edit or stream as such.
I just upgraded my current system from the Ryzen 5 5500 to this chip. I also expanded my system RAM with another pair of 16GB DDR4 3,200 Mhz sticks of Patriot Viper Steel memory. Now I have 64 gigs of system RAM and the Ryzen 7 5800X CPU and boy does it make a difference. Now I just need to upgrade my monitor to a 1440p 100+ hz model and I'll be set. My current GPU is the XFX Radeon RX 6700XT Speedster Swift309 12GB GDDR6 graphics card so I should be able to game at 2K on High to Ultra settings in most games now.
Hello and good day to all! Much love from the US of A to ya Brian and Tech Yes City. I hoping one day to see you stream with Rogue. I've got to say you Ozzies have found a way into my heart. 💟🤗 Great vid as always brother!
I just bought the 5800x I wasn’t sure if it was gonna be good or not but seeing you love the 5800x makes me feel good about my purchase so thank you 🙏🏽
Bought a used 3600 awhile back that claimed it only worked with 1 ram stick but all the pins looked fine and everything and they sold it for $100 and it worked perfectly immediately
This vid describes exactly the reason, i cancelled my early November 5900x preorder, and got me an actual available 5800x. Situation here in Europe cpu wise looks way better than with all the gfx cards, but still - 5900x will actually be available only early next year. So not because price (that's 0 concern for me, i had already paid the 5900x and getting refund), but the fun using an 8core 1ccd low latency monster of a chip. And i don't really need (!) that many cores anyways, plus planning on up/sidegrading several pc's in the house too, when 5000 series refresh comes out next year. Was extremely happy with the 3800XT (now my wife is, she enjoys the blistering speed in her now updated desktop, and the pure overkill on her casual&browser games). And the 5800X as well - that's really an impressive chip. Faster in anything, most noticeable in cpu dependent games (rpg's and older titles. Or newer, like Serious Sam4, where the cpu makes a world of a difference - we're talking +/- 50fps differences here with same gfx card). And the sweetest thing: all cores (not only 1,2 or 3 - all 8) reach 4850 easily, within a minute when checking with HWInfo, in single core/light loads, and around 4,4-4,6 in all core loads. Does a tiny tad higher temp at ~75°C at full load, yet similar to the 3800XT, with a good case and 240 AIO. But stock. And without PBO. And without even hitting the 140W limit doing so. Does take 4 dual ranked 16G sticks@3600 (which btw also the 3800XT was able to) - just sweet. I use an MSI MEG X570 Ace board btw. And as it's so snappy it needs no oc in any way, i just tried a little bit for fun - it takes even higher single core/light load boost speeds set in bios/fmax with ease. Or lower voltage on same clocks, or just have the best perfoming energy saver cpu by limiting it to 65 or 95W....simply because it can. Damn awesome - don't miss the 5900x in any way, and with very low super-pi 1m numbers (for fun/doing comparison) it feels beefy, stable and quick in anything, "like Intel" - yet even faster 👍
I bought 5800X aswell, but after 2 days i decided that i want better bang for the buck, and i was also worried about temperatures on that 5800X. So i ordered 5900X, which has the same performance in gaming overall, lower temps, more cores and threads, much better perf / price ratio and i would say its better future proof aswell, assuming that i want to keep that CPU for like 5 years-
Then why not spend 100 more and get a 12 core? Lol. The pricing on the 5800x is the most idiotic thing ever. 150$ more for two extra cores from the 5600x, but if you pay 100 more you get 4 more cores, not two, 4!
@@cloudcata8300 They'll probably drop the price in a few months or less. Maybe they priced it like this to sell more of the other ones. Never really know with them monitoring our behaviors and words online and using AI to process simulations of our future behavior.
I got this CPU 10 days ago. Forums, Reddit, TH-cam videos, TH-cam comments are full of "heat problems. My experience is: Cinebench jumps to 79c for about 3-4 sec and then it settles down on the 75-76c. (10min test) In gaming: Warzone everything on High settings and resolution 2560x1080 temps are: 60-70c. CPU cooling is Arctic Liquid Freezer II with stock paste. For now, I'm really very happy with this CPU. Using it with 32GB 3600mhz RAM and 1080Ti.
@@tsorapa Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, everything is fine, I'm not even watching temps anymore. For gaming, the only thing you have to do is to fix the framerate to match your Monitor Hz. In my case 75hz - 75fps limit and thats it.
You could've gone with even a 5600x because gaming is mostly gpu dependent and the 5000 series processors offer mostly similar performance maybe 10 fps difference between 5600x and 5950x.
@@grossly820 unfortunately I ordered my chip before any reviews had surfaced, that's what early adoption does for you 😂 I'm not really that fussed about, I sometimes do some demanding design work but very rarely, I'm sure the 5600x would probably cope very well with that also meh, I'm just glad I could support amd's future in R&D at the very least 😂
@@grossly820 I think I'll probably keep this one for around 4 years, give it to my dad once I upgrade, it'll be a big upgrade for him as he's still on the 2700x and rxt 2070.
THANK YOU for talking about this being a great cpu to purchase & have for the next few years. Most tech reviewers only talk about buying for today's gaming titles, but I always look at how far into the future do I want my product to last before I feel I should upgrade.
same. for editing it will be the sweet spot. there are people saying their won't be one. it uses a single ccx module which is quite valuable because it's what they make the 5900 and 5950 out of, and the yields aren't good enough to spread them so thin, it's why the 5800 is quite expensive. they don't want people buying it.
The 5800X is a beast. I have mine at all stock BIOS settings, except for custom fan curves and turning on DOCP for the RAM and it's clocking up to 4.94Ghz on a Noctua NH-U14S. It normally doesn't go over 72 degrees under a real world heavy load. With Prime 95 during a torture test, it can reach 90C even, but only with the AVX instructions enabled. Even during the Prime 95 torture test, it was running at 4.6Ghz on all cores and never dropped below that. Geek bench gave me a 1720 single core benchmark. Sorry I lost the multi core Geekbench result, but it was over 10k that much I remember. I'm using a Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Pro, a new mobo from Asus and Crucial Ballistics RAM at 3200Mhz. It's been updated to the most recent "stable" BIOS although it was running good out of the box.
I had been planning on getting the 5800x, even had one in my cart for pick-up but cancelled it because they raised the prices! it's now $30CAD over MSPR and if I'm going to cave I might as well spent the extra $130CAD for $5900x.. yes I'm worried about the latency as well, but I do a lot of transcoding for work and that will be worth it over gaming hopefully.
@@Matruchus ouch! I could have snagged a 5800x AT MSRP on launch day but was stuck at work. tried to skip over during a break and they were gone by then.
Good video, nice to see a different slant from most of the other reviewers. Would love to see an overclocking video for beginners on getting the best out of the 5800X as it looks like it has the headroom to stretch. I went for the 5800x on launch day for your exact reasons, so pleased to see the benchmarking showed a positive result. Still waiting for my CPU to arrive (was changed to a pre order) but I think it will get here before my 3080 :(.
Mine tends to run hot, which I knew when I made the purchase so I planned my build around it. I have a 360 aio with the radiator on top and the fans under it pushing air from the inside out and 3 140mm fans on the front pulling cool air in. The front fans do not have to spin as fast to move the same amount of air so it is quiet there and the radiator blocks much of the noise from the internal fans. It does kick up to 90c during long stress tests, but even at those temps the clocks stay solid right around 4.5ghz on all cores. Once the tests are over it cools down pretty quick.
I also have a 5800x, h115i pro xt as cooling, 2 top and 1 back exhaust and 2 bottom ones, 3080 gpu. Out of the box the cpu ran very hot and throtled (for me) because it gave almost 1.4V. I undervolted in the bios (after ryzen master testing) and changed the PBO (power boost option) to negative 30 and now the cpu only gets around 1.2875V and does 4750 rock stable. Idle temps are now 36C and stresstested 83C. I recommend an undervolt my man.
@@spadedaman4958 Wow. What just a few hours of research can do for you. Managed to get to 4775 and finish 1 R20 test at 6305. Wasn't very stable but at those settings but when I kicked it down to what you gave it works just fine and I don't break 80c. Oh and only dropped to 6259 so still respectable.
I find alot of tech channels are very focused on high refresh rate gaming these days, whereas I barely ever hear about ultra wide for instance. I wish the Steam Survey would include in their monitor analysis something for Hz gaming.
Another tech tuber (Daniel Owen) has Ultra wide and in a recent video discussing their use quoted a figure of IIRC 1-2%. You could ask him where he sourced the figure, as he interacts a lot. It would explain why they are ignored.
Mine arrived today and i had only problems since i put it in. Made a BIOS update before, installed the latest chipset drivers (in fact i worked in IT and have some exp). As soon i put the 5800X in i had constant blue screens, and crashes. Tried everything, deactivating XMP, PBO, C-State control, installed a new Windows (and dropped all my VST-Plugins of my DAW for music producing...the whole reason i wanted to upgrade in the first place). It kept crashing, i read into that problem, and saw many people and forums talking about it. I know i could hassle around with voltages and such, but i want a stable out of the box experience, before i OC my setup. Man what a bummer, i really wanted to like this CPU but so far it was one of the worst experiences, in my 20 years of IT. RMA incoming and will settle on a 5700X i guess, hope that one won't let me down.
i know the value for money isnt there and most tech tubers say dont buy 5800x but the thing is 6 cores wont cut it for me based on what i do 12 cores in the other hand are overkill for me personally again , its nice to find a guy who is doing a great job and understands the needs someone could have and makes a product evaluation on your needs first and value for money last. sorry for my poor english my 5800x is going to be here in 2 days !
Highly recommended. Very impressed by it. Actually wanted the 5900x but it can't be found anywhere for a long while just like the 5800z so when the 5800x showed up grabbed it right away and I can't complain
My 5800x auto OC to 4.95 ghz with the Ryzen Master software, air cooled too. I'm using a Cryorig R1 cooler, 32gb ram @ 3733 (OC to 4000mhz), on a Aorus Ultra x570 mobo.
So i cand understand is no need to oc it manually? and if i do it will raise the temps? I ll make my build next week and i m thinking oc it to 4.8 ghz and with kraken x63 and a phanteks p 500a case i hope will stay under 85 degrees.
@@babanu65 You can just let the AMD Ryzen master software take care of it for you. It will auto detect your CPU and run a quick stress test to see where it can OC to. I traded my 5800x for a 5900x and used the software to OC my CPU. User easy to use, and will auto OC the CPU safely for you. My "default" clock speed on the 5900x is at 4.9ghz, and Auto OC can get 5.05ghz. I just leave it at 4.9ghz to have rock solid stability.
Just upgraded 5 mins ago from a 3700x. I have not even loaded a game yet and its already a massive improvement! Snappier and smoother! I had a very poor day 1 3700x that barely hit 4.2ghz! The 5800x is boosting to 4.9ghz on every core! Im so happy :)
I bought the 5800X for FL studio, and I feel like it's a really good balance between core count and single thread performance. The single thread performance slays with FL studios workload, I can throw on a ton of effects and not have to worry. and 8 cores is perfect as FL doesn't really scale beyond that anyway.
@Adineo it relies more on single core perf more than anything. And it won't really scale beyond 8 cores. So something like the 5800X Is an absolute monster for audio processing. The 5600X would be great too, if it fits more in your budget.
I have a GTX 1080 and I just upgraded to a 5800X with 32 GB RAM from my i5 4670 with 16 GB of RAM and I have seen about a 50% increase in performance in every game (my old setup had a fresh install of Win 10 so it wasn't just me booting my clunky OS) and an increase on 3D Mark from 5900 to 7700. I also got a 980 Pro nVe boot drive and that thing is seriously quick, I transferred a 4GB file to my 860 Evo SATA SSD in 3 or 4 seconds and its cold load time for Forza Horizon 4 is the same as what I get on the XBSeX (Ori Will of the Wisps looks amazing at 4K 120 on my new OLED)! I'm just waiting for my RTX 3080 to arrive and my PS5 I preordered. Yeah I'm broke now.
I somehow feel that in value calculations, the expected life need to be included somehow. Maybe like a linearly depreciating assets. It would be difficult, but I feel the 8 core current chips would outlast the 6 core chips by a solid 1-2 years.
@@thepiratedownunder5420 true. I'm not arguing that 5800x is less value per $ than the 5600x. When I built my previous system, people said an i5 is enough for gaming and then ryzen landed. Now I am seeing visible stutter on new gen games on my i5 6500, even though the overall performance can be called satisfactory. If I had gone with the 6700k, it would have cost me 80% more (my local pricing for i7 was insane), but I would still not feel the need to upgrade quite yet. I'm just talking from my experience here
@@RobBCactive fair argument, but I'm not sure how many people build PC for productivity. My focus is definitely on gaming only. So a 12 core would definitely be wasted on me. The question here is if the difference of 2 cores between 6 core and 8 core would matter in a couple of years when PS5 titles PC ports are launched. I don't see the prices dropping until the old stock for 3000 series is sold, which might take some time as people are waiting for the rest of the 5000 series SKUs.I don't think a 5700 is going to launch before rocket lake, also the 8 core yields for AMD appear to be an issue for AMD, which may explain the weird positioning of the 5800x. So ,either I wait another 6 months or go with the subjective best option for me now
👍Thumbs Up👍& I have the B450 steel legend MOBO so is it as simple as calling them up to figure out if everything works together in regards to up grading the cpu? Just Typing (Thinking) Outloud againg🤭🤣🤫.Actually after watching this I'll just go 3600 from my 2600 amd cpu,wyt?
I bought the 3800xt last year against everyone's opinion and it works GREAT: I could overclock it 4.625ghz stable all cores. I am going to put my filhy hands on the 5800x despite all the critics because the Ryzen 7 did NOT disapoint me in the past. Great expectations for the 5800x seriously.
Authorative and balanced summary without theatrics. Subscribed... At least the hate has resulted in the 5800x being available at somewhere around MSRP here in the UK, which makes it better value compared to the 5600x marked up by 20% or more.
I got the 10600K for 230 dollars here in Denmark, it managed 5,2 ghz with no problems on water cooling and is to me one of the best gaming CPUs out there. It can reach 5 ghz on air cooling and I was surprised at the thermals, they are far better than the 10700K. Remember that the overclocked 10600k goes toe to toe with the 10900k in almost any gaming scenario. If you are at 1440p + and have a top end 5 year old or newer CPU then just buy a top end GPU, no reason to upgrade your system for gaming purposes. I gave my best friend my old 6700K, he bought an RTX 3080 and is very comfortable at 1440p. My gaming rig is built and moving on to my better half´s production work station which will of course be AMD, gathering the parts now but I want it all AMD and much of the newer hardware seems to be on short supply, will probably have to wait for January or February.
I was not sure about buying this chip. Glad I did saw this video. I want the 12 core. But with the semiconductor shortage I jump on this. Thanks for video.
The 5800X was the best Zen 3 CPU to buy for gaming period. Buying anything above it was a total waste of money unless you run all-core workloads on a regular basis and the 5600X is a drop in performance. The only issue was launch price. For people who have been buying AMD CPUs, they know not to buy at launch. You wait a few month for AMD to start putting things on sale once supply builds up. From an MSRP of $450 to a current price of $300, which is below the MSRP of the 3700X, for which the 5800X easily beats, it's a no-brainer for people who bought into AM4. To build a new system so late in the product cycle, maybe you just wait. But since there's a dropoff in performance stepping down to the 5600X, at a current $230 USD, I'd rather just have the best gaming performance for the extra $70 USD.
Thanks for this mate. totally agree with this. 5800X is the best balanced CPU for this current lineup. The thing is, its priced badly. If these was at least 50 bucks cheaper then its gonna be the best selling. Personally though i go with this CPU. 5600x is just to expensive for a 6 core and 5900x is overkill for my personal use case. Anyways, looking forward for the next content.
Im just impressed how easy overclocking is now. I just switched PBO to manual only changed the offset to 200mhz and my 5800x now regularly boosts to 5,05ghz single core and 4,95 ghz 2-3 core boost
Looking at real world pricing in Feb 21 in the UK, the 5800x actually kinda makes sense... The 5600x is going for £320, the 5800x for £420, and the 5900x for £600 (if in stock...) - so currently the 5800x is less than a third more than the 5600x and works out slightly better value. The 5900x is basically 50% more for 50% more, so it's pretty linear at that point
Personaly i would love to get my hands on the R7 5800X that would make my editing experience just amazing and gaming too. When i still had my X5690 4.5ghz setup on the rampage 2 extreme that was also great but the renders were 1:1 with the video lenght. I would love to get the 5800X but i cant afford it☹
got my hands on a 5800x today, i personally wasn't a fan of how hot it gets on default/stock settings, 85-90c is apparently normal, but just not comfortable for me. so after a few hours of tweaking, i managed to just disable PBO and any other boosts, went with an all-core OC of 4.5Ghz @ 1.2v, it runs coooool. dont see it go above 65c while gaming, 75c during bench, 40c on desktop idling. this is with a wraith prism cooler with a fan curve that stays at 950 RPM until after 68c. after these changes i felt much better with the cpu temps and performance, also yes..my usages are gaming/recording/streaming/video editing, so the 5800x hits the mark for my uses.
Don't get me wrong, I love the videos were you and other tech-tubers go right into the point, but for me at least the benchmark graphs goes way too fast. I used to sitdown comfortably and just watch the info show while hearing at what you have to add and explain. Enjoying every second of your videos. Now is like playing a video game, I have to have my mouse on hand and pause, play, pause, play, rewind, pause, play, fast foward, pause play and again and again. I would really love to have the graphs on the screen time enough to atleast focus read most of the important things. Right now I feel if I read the game title, resolution and details setting the graph is already gone by the time I wana read the FPS result.
After 2 months of use I can say that I don't regret buying this chip. The single core performance is just insane. Only issue I have with it is that it can run hot very quickly, I use a 360 mm AIO for cooling and it's barely sufficient. So I set it to eco mode in the bios which limits the power draw of the cpu to 88w and that seems to help a lot with the temperatures. Although there is a slight decrease in multi core performance (about 5-10%), in single core the scores actually increased a little. In games there is no noticeable performance hit.
I just want to support amd due to the push they have been doing. I'm upgrading from 4770k and will be going 5800x asap with 570 formula seeing I'm straight watercooling
I just got the 5800x for my wife's machine at a Microcenter here in the USA. It was $400 USD vs the 5600x for $280, but my wife doesn't like messing around with her computer any more often than is absolutely necessary. The 5800x will stay relevant courtesy of those extra 2 cores/4 threads altogether longer than the 5600x would. So I talked it over with her, as she's knowledgeable about these things but doesn't enjoy tinkering around with pc builds or messing around with them once she's got them set up how she likes them. She was more than happy for us to pay the extra $120 for a cpu that'll stay relevant for longer and maybe get her another year or even two of good performance in games when the 5600x's 6 core/12 thread situation might be fading into the mid-tier. We're both pretty firmly convinced that the PS5 and Xbox Series X era is going to see PC games be optmized for those platforms as well or even firstly even moreso than was the case throughout the PS4/Xbox 1 era. In a year or two, I think the 5800x will still be a solid contender for top-end performance in games, whereas I think anything less than 8 physical core and 16 thread solutions are going to be increasingly left behind. We can already see that happening to 4c/8t CPUs in a lot of games that were optimized hard for late-gen performance on PS4 Pro and XB1 platforms. They still work, but it can't be disputed that the difference in performance between, say, a 4c/8t 7700k and a 6c/12t 8700k in a good many newer games is directly affected by core count. Right now, today, 6c/12t is the sweet spot in most games for top tier performance for the money, but I think that's largely due to that the PS4 Pro and the XB1X are 8c platforms that only actually use 6c for running games. The other 2c are generally reserved for the OS and background junk. Console development really dictates a lot of what the standards are for game development, and there's no real mystery about why; they've got a much larger market share. PC ports of console games has been a much-complained-about reality for probably fifteen years or so, and its the standard anymore with almost all games, sometimes weirdly enough even with games made for PC that never wind up on the consoles they were developed to eventually migrate to. I don't think 6c/12t CPUs are going to suddenly get bottom-tiered or anything, but I think they're going to go the route of 4c/8t a lot more quickly than it took for us to move past 4c/8t as the sweet spot for gaming. 8c/16t is going to be the new sweet spot real quick. And I don't doubt for one second that, in about two years, we'll be seen games coming out that, all other factors being identical, will cough up something like 60 FPS on a 5600x and 90 FPS on a 5800x simply due to the games being optimized to take advantage of 8c/16t with increasing commonality. So, my wife and I discussed this and she just about immediately decided that the extra $120 was worth being able to delay having to consider upgrading to a new mobo/ram/cpu baseline any sooner than will be necessary to stay in the upper tier of gaming performance. We can easily afford it, but we aren't the sorts of people that like to spend money on things that don't make sense even if we could light it on fire and never miss it. Just isn't good practice or what smart people do, after all. If you want the best gaming CPU for the money right now, today, the 5600x is a no-brainer. Get it, be happy with it, you didn't make a mistake. If you want the best gaming CPU for right now and one that will remain a strong performer for years to come, the 5800x is going to stay in the high end longer. This won't mean a thing to you if you're the type that builds a new PC with new hardware every two years or so, because the 5600x will probably still be a strong performer in two years and the 5800x will probably be outclassed by whatever the big new thing is by that time. But if you're like my wife and you like your desktop to be solidly good for at least five years, the 5800x is everything the 5600x is, just more of it. 2x/4t more of it, to be precise. Those extra cores will never be a detriment to you, and as time goes by, they're going to be taken advantage of more and more as 8c/16t becomes the new 4c/8t standard of yesteryear.
5800x Installed and running fine. Temps are lower than 72 degrees Celsius at all times in Prime95 (small FFT) (ambient temp is 27 degrees) with my Coolermaster Master Air MA620M. This CPU hits hard and in my case (pun intended) runs cool and quiet. All core clocks are nuts. Just enable AutoOC and let the CPU do the rest.
As someone who is selling their 3600x, this decision to raise the prices for the 8 core makes me confused as to whether to just get it anyway or splurge a little more and get the 5900x even though I won't be able to leverage all the cores.
I bought the 5800x today pick it up tomorrow (already have the x570 tomahawk), I have the 3800x and was not going to upgrade until I saw the difference in VR performance in a YT video and the gains were huge! Non VR gaming performance boost was not enough to justify the money but the VR performance changed all that. Now to magically get a 3080 here in Aus before next year since unfortunately AMD failed when it comes to gpu's yet again :( the moment you turn on DLSS, raytracing or try to use the gpu as an encoder you will see why they failed again and I have yet to see any VR performance review with the new AMD cards. (shame I was really hoping to do an all team red build)
Absolute common sense Bryan again. It's been slated by certain reviewers and I personally think it's perfect, it's matching consoles and thus will eb used correctly going forward, the 5600x now... at 6 cores, just not enough going forward for the next 3 years if you're building a keeper. For me, 5800x is the go to CPU for 2020/2021. Shame it wasn't just a few £ lower.
Why do you need the 8 core part to match the consoles? The consoles have lower clocked, Zen 2 8 cores. The 5600X alone crushes them. You don't need more than that if you're stricltly building a gaming PC.
@@RicochetForce because consoles are 8 core, games will eventually be optimsed for 8 core by default especially as so many console ports, meaning that you get maximum potential out of your cpu unlike today when it sits there scratching it's arse what to do with all those cores sitting at 35--50% usage. With console and game designers now having that leverage.... It makes absoltuely zero sense to have a 5600x going forward. .. when building any pc nowadays aimed at gaming especially if at 1080/1440... my opinion thought. Feel free to disagree. I myself went 8 core zeon instead of my old 6 core because the 6 core in some games was starting to show it's age i.e. BF5
@@MrPugheaven But the 6 core is is far more powerful than what's in the PS5 and Xbox Series X. You're going to be playing console ports from slower and weaker CPUs. 4 core Haswells were playing 8-core PS4 Pro/XB1X games at 90+ FPS. You don't need to match core count to be safe for the generation.
Hi great video.. just upgraded to this cpu and with a b550 AsRock gaming 4 itx but my benchmark test is really poor. I know I only have a 1050ti palit storm x GPU but surely this can do better? Any tips to get it to run better as no idea how to overclock or under volt.
Appreciate the alternative perspective on the 5600X, 5800X? I probably would wait for the 5700X and/or 5600, still not sure I want to invest more in 8 cores, by the time it matters maybe I'll be upgrading again anyway. How about a few tests, load up a system with a 5600X, run a couple of benchmarks with nothing open, then load your chrome, discord, spotify etc, run em again, rinse repeat with a 5800X? That would be really interesting because, I mean you'd want to test a couple of CPU intensive and CPU light games to see the differences
Just saw Benchmarks for this and the 10700K. If intel had PCIe 4 in that thing and I think it's cheaper now. That would be actually be "better". The 10700K comes within margin of error performance to the 5800X on 14nm+++++. Imagine if Intel was also using their own 7nm...
If you undervolt the 10700K with -100mv, you get 5GHz all core turbo on Cinebench with Noctua NH-U12A, the difference in multithread perfomance between 5800X and 10700K is 12% while the price difference is almost 100 dollars.
Thanks for talking sense Bryza, the 3600/5600X is there for people who want value, and the 5900x/5950x for those who need workstation. So many saying 5800X is such poor value because 5900X, but the 5800X is just as good at gaming for $100USD less. And it's pretty widely available.
Just picked up a 5800x just because it was the only zen3 5k series I could get without scalper prices. I'm sure it will be a solid processor for the next few years.
Any chance we get an esports titles benchmarks with the new ryzen cpus? LoL, Dota2, CSGo, Fortnite, R6, Rocket League ? Just a suggestion, snicie you guys would be the first one to do one and all of esports is on 1080p
Well now it’s $414*. It’s not the best mb but it’s still ok for normal use www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4199085&quicklink=true
Great argument for the 5800x as the gaming king. I do not like the argument that others are proposing that you might as well pay up to the 5900x or just get the 5600x. you are getting a premium product with the 5800x and that extra $100 saved on not going for the 5900x can go to another component like the gpu or just be pocketed. And I also do not want my pc to have less cores than a console lol. Even if they are faster cores than what's in the consoles.
THANK YOU for backing my decision to get a 5800X. I was kind of in doubt after hearing, what gamers nexus had to say about it. I thought it's a smart thing to do to get a cpu that has a full pack of 8 cores on one ccx sharing the same L3 cache memory. I payed 450€ for it and I think i'm fine with my purchase... Edit: Got it for gaming only...
All the other Techtubers are saying this is the red-headed stepchild of the 5000 series because for $US100 more you can get the 5900x, that's all well and good but you could also have a 5800x and $100 to spend elsewhere. This is why I want the 5800x.
Such a great video! I've only seen people hate on the 5800x. Is this CPU a good option for someone looking to get into youtube video creation/editing and streaming, or should I hold out for the 5900x?
Thank you for this video, just got 5800x for 400 euros in Italy while 5900x is 720 euros.. Maybe at msrp price it would make sense to say that 5800x is kinda expensive but considering 5600x is up to 330 here i paid 400 for extra core and thread that will make this cpu last minimum 2 years longer when 6 core will become like 4 core today.
Finally someone makes me feel better about buying the 5800x. Lol.
I think if a 5700 was available the 5600X wouldn't get so much love.
Same here. Anyone else get that buyers guilt after purchasing 😅🤣
Just look at the 3800X and why it's so unpopular. You will regret getting 5800X. You should either have gone for just 5600X or 5900X if you're that impatient to get a Zen 3 processor.
@@jonirojonironin5353 yeah fuck the facts stated in the video. The 5800x is trash!
@@jonirojonironin5353 The 5800X uses the highest quality silicon chips AMD has. The (presumably) upcoming 5700X will cost less but won't clock as high and the 5600X isn't futureproof enough.
First review of this series that actually makes sense! Thanks for not being afraid to go against the grain my friend.
Thanks for getting the review out so quick. I'm glad I went for the 5800X. The 5600X just wasn't enough and the 5900X was too hard to get
how are the temps on the 5800x i’ve heard people complain about it
@@nami1378 i know this is late as hell but i changed the voltage on my 5800x to 1.2 and then set the clock to 4.7ghz and its run under 80c smoothly for about 2 years
Glad to hear some positive comment about the 5800x. Lol. I just picked mine up today. :) your comment after the amd presentation about the single ccx actually set my thoughts on the 5800x. Glad your enjoying it :)
There's nothing wrong with a 5800x it's just supercede by other chips
Brian, just wanted to thank you for all the effort you put into your videos. Admittedly, a new Ryzen would be massively epic to own, but after watching your videos, I just cant get my eyes off of aliexpress Xeons and budget builds. Thanks again man!! (you've also inspired me to pursue a degree in I.T., so thanks for that too :))
Glad I could help!
Bryan
Hell yeah brother, I got a xeon x3440 build for fun, considering it's age it's an absolute beast, I'm gonna buy a better mobo and get it on fast ram with a good gpu. (Also watercool and delid it, It can do 4ghz oc but it gets to hot on air).
Totally convinced by the power consumption chart! More cores would be nice when editing, but my computer is on 24/7 and this is a great balance of power vs heat/energy. Great job!
Happy to see some praise for this cpu, I wanted 5900x at first but single ccx and no infinity fabric sold me on the 5800x
smart guy, I have a 5800x and for some reason my benchmark numbers are higher than some of these techtubers numbers are. For cinebench r23 I have 1640 single core score and 15515 multicore, I just used ryzen master auto-oc. For speedometer 2.0 (html performance that reflects web browsing responsiveness) i'm getting 171mph. Based on others scores on 5900x i'm getting better single core score and better speedometer 2.0. Based on techyescity's score it's better at gaming. So essentially the 5800x is just better overall unless you're doing something that can leverage the additional cores. If I needed a 5900x I would just get a 5950x. The only thing the 5900x is good for is being a budget video editing/productivity cpu. 5800x is better for the gamer, 5950x is better for the person who needs the extra cores for productivity, virtualization, etc. To me the 5900x just seems like an upsell/jack of all trades master of none. The only thing is, I'm not sure why everyone's numbers are so different. I've seen a lot of benchmarks that put the 5900x ahead of the 5800x in gaming, but comparing my scores to online 5900x scores the 5800x is better.
@@ilovehotdogs125790 thanks for the info just got a 5800x
Is it compatible with the Aorus X570 Elite MoBo?
@@CoolJoshido212 Yes. th-cam.com/video/6z-vxRzg12Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=NorthernVikingEveryday
@@CC-dy2td but would i have to do a BIOS flashback?
This cpu is a beast with undervolt. I have mine with 4925 mhz all cores with these settings in the bios or ryzen master. -30 curve optimizer, 123 ppt, 80 tdc and 90 edc. Temp idle at 32 and max load is 72 at full load. I do have a arctic 420 on it too though.
Mine boosts to 4.85 -30 on all cores plus I picked it up for 170 from amazon
Finally, a positive review for 5800X ! Soon I will jump from my old friend i7 6700 to this ''nice to have for the next 5 years CPU''. Thank you Tech YES City !
I've got the same CPU and am doing the same 👌
It's the more (for the lack of a better phrase) forward thinking people like you and Bryan who would prefer the 5800x. Bryan is probably one of the top "value for money" youtubers out there and he chose the 5800x over the 5600x. Other reviewers of idea's of value for money is only looking forward 1 and at most 3 years. Their thought process is game for a year or two and upgrade to the next decently valued cpu and so on, adding cost to each upgrade, which will eventually even out the "wasted" money for justifying the 5800x now.
In the end, for any competent minded person and whatever their idea of "value for money" is, money spent will even out. I personally got the 5800x and also plan on using it for the foreseeable future, as I did with my 4770k. Until the 20xx series geforce came out, my 4770k held out very well. I predict my 5800x will do the same.
I just upgraded my old am4 system to this cpu in 2023. I was able to get it on sale for under $200 so I feel like it becomes a great price to performance now. Only thing I'm working on is thermals. My old cooler isn't quiet enough for this monster. Hopefully a new cooler and some undervolting will do the trick and it'll get me through a few more years.
5800X is the one I was waiting for, in fact I waited for this specific CPU for years. The first non-cutdown uniform 8-core, and it'll be my CPU for the next 10+ years. 5950X is the only other CPU I would consider, 6-cores are headed to the grave soon when Squadron 42 comes out.
10 years...bruh
@@jameshay6926 PS5 and XSX will be on the market 10++ years. That's why I say 10 years, the 5800X exceeds both consoles by 40%-50%.
Finally someone not burning down the 5800X thanks Brian! great video loved it ;)
The 5800x Fits my needs perfectly I couldn't deny myself from it. I run a Linux VM, lite editing for youtube videos/streaming and playing games. I'll pair it up with a 6800xt!
yeah I would not go the 6800xt esp if you do lite editing for youtube videos/streaming as that's one area where team red fail hard, I was hoping to do a all team red build but their gpu's are behind the comp yet again :(
Thanks man, you really tamed my post purchase regret . Everyone was shitting on this so bad, I thought i made a bad decision. This def does the job for me cus i wont be using 10 or 12 cores as i dont edit or stream as such.
Great vid! Got 5800x and 3080 set coming in 3 days!!
I just upgraded my current system from the Ryzen 5 5500 to this chip. I also expanded my system RAM with another pair of 16GB DDR4 3,200 Mhz sticks of Patriot Viper Steel memory. Now I have 64 gigs of system RAM and the Ryzen 7 5800X CPU and boy does it make a difference. Now I just need to upgrade my monitor to a 1440p 100+ hz model and I'll be set. My current GPU is the XFX Radeon RX 6700XT Speedster Swift309 12GB GDDR6 graphics card so I should be able to game at 2K on High to Ultra settings in most games now.
Hello and good day to all! Much love from the US of A to ya Brian and Tech Yes City. I hoping one day to see you stream with Rogue. I've got to say you Ozzies have found a way into my heart. 💟🤗 Great vid as always brother!
I just bought the 5800x I wasn’t sure if it was gonna be good or not but seeing you love the 5800x makes me feel good about my purchase so thank you 🙏🏽
Not budget friendly for me. I'll wait for someone to sell their 3600.
this man knows how to hustle!
Bought a used 3600 awhile back that claimed it only worked with 1 ram stick but all the pins looked fine and everything and they sold it for $100 and it worked perfectly immediately
@@spaghebbio Sounds like the previous owner had a bad Motherboard
they're already a good deal in terms of dollar for dollar against the 5k series. once the discounts kick in, boy it's gonna be a 3000 party
I can sell you mine x)
This vid describes exactly the reason, i cancelled my early November 5900x preorder, and got me an actual available 5800x.
Situation here in Europe cpu wise looks way better than with all the gfx cards, but still - 5900x will actually be available only early next year.
So not because price (that's 0 concern for me, i had already paid the 5900x and getting refund), but the fun using an 8core 1ccd low latency monster of a chip.
And i don't really need (!) that many cores anyways, plus planning on up/sidegrading several pc's in the house too, when 5000 series refresh comes out next year.
Was extremely happy with the 3800XT (now my wife is, she enjoys the blistering speed in her now updated desktop, and the pure overkill on her casual&browser games).
And the 5800X as well - that's really an impressive chip.
Faster in anything, most noticeable in cpu dependent games
(rpg's and older titles. Or newer, like Serious Sam4, where the cpu makes a world of a difference - we're talking +/- 50fps differences here with same gfx card).
And the sweetest thing: all cores (not only 1,2 or 3 - all 8) reach 4850 easily, within a minute when checking with HWInfo, in single core/light loads, and around 4,4-4,6 in all core loads.
Does a tiny tad higher temp at ~75°C at full load, yet similar to the 3800XT, with a good case and 240 AIO.
But stock. And without PBO. And without even hitting the 140W limit doing so.
Does take 4 dual ranked 16G sticks@3600 (which btw also the 3800XT was able to) - just sweet.
I use an MSI MEG X570 Ace board btw.
And as it's so snappy it needs no oc in any way, i just tried a little bit for fun - it takes even higher single core/light load boost speeds set in bios/fmax with ease.
Or lower voltage on same clocks, or just have the best perfoming energy saver cpu by limiting it to 65 or 95W....simply because it can.
Damn awesome - don't miss the 5900x in any way, and with very low super-pi 1m numbers (for fun/doing comparison) it feels beefy, stable and quick in anything, "like Intel" - yet even faster 👍
Probably should have watched this before I ordered mine. But being into primarily video editing I am pretty happy with my purchase.
I bought 5800X aswell, but after 2 days i decided that i want better bang for the buck, and i was also worried about temperatures on that 5800X. So i ordered 5900X, which has the same performance in gaming overall, lower temps, more cores and threads, much better perf / price ratio and i would say its better future proof aswell, assuming that i want to keep that CPU for like 5 years-
Then why not spend 100 more and get a 12 core? Lol. The pricing on the 5800x is the most idiotic thing ever. 150$ more for two extra cores from the 5600x, but if you pay 100 more you get 4 more cores, not two, 4!
@@cloudcata8300 They'll probably drop the price in a few months or less. Maybe they priced it like this to sell more of the other ones. Never really know with them monitoring our behaviors and words online and using AI to process simulations of our future behavior.
@@cloudcata8300 2 cores and 4 threads more plus the head room for heavy tasks
@@kluxii244 5 years? It will last way longer than that (insane passmark singlethread scores) and the 12 cores.
I got this CPU 10 days ago.
Forums, Reddit, TH-cam videos, TH-cam comments are full of "heat problems.
My experience is: Cinebench jumps to 79c for about 3-4 sec and then it settles down on the 75-76c. (10min test)
In gaming: Warzone everything on High settings and resolution 2560x1080 temps are: 60-70c.
CPU cooling is Arctic Liquid Freezer II with stock paste.
For now, I'm really very happy with this CPU.
Using it with 32GB 3600mhz RAM and 1080Ti.
what cooler do you have? how's the build now?
@@tsorapa Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, everything is fine, I'm not even watching temps anymore.
For gaming, the only thing you have to do is to fix the framerate to match your Monitor Hz. In my case 75hz - 75fps limit and thats it.
The gamer in me went for the 5800x, I play COD and I'm happy to hear that it performed the best out of all chips in warzone, music to my ears!
You could've gone with even a 5600x because gaming is mostly gpu dependent and the 5000 series processors offer mostly similar performance maybe 10 fps difference between 5600x and 5950x.
@@grossly820 unfortunately I ordered my chip before any reviews had surfaced, that's what early adoption does for you 😂 I'm not really that fussed about, I sometimes do some demanding design work but very rarely, I'm sure the 5600x would probably cope very well with that also meh, I'm just glad I could support amd's future in R&D at the very least 😂
@@mattneilson6081 yea i guess you won't need to upgrade your processor for like another 6-7 years because of those 8c/16t
@@grossly820 I think I'll probably keep this one for around 4 years, give it to my dad once I upgrade, it'll be a big upgrade for him as he's still on the 2700x and rxt 2070.
Mine precision boosts to 4950mhz single core! Love it.
mine 5050mhz, also love it
THANK YOU for talking about this being a great cpu to purchase & have for the next few years. Most tech reviewers only talk about buying for today's gaming titles, but I always look at how far into the future do I want my product to last before I feel I should upgrade.
Can't wait for the ryzen 7 5700x that's, gonna be the true king here🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
same. for editing it will be the sweet spot. there are people saying their won't be one. it uses a single ccx module which is quite valuable because it's what they make the 5900 and 5950 out of, and the yields aren't good enough to spread them so thin, it's why the 5800 is quite expensive. they don't want people buying it.
Why would you buy an underclocked 5800x?
@@jayr8282 all AMD chips are clockable. why would you pay for AMD to coverclock your chip?
@@fuzzjunky cause you add 200mhz on the advertised peak. They aren't going to sell you the same performance at a lower price .
I doubt 5700x can get a stable 4.7ghz
Great realistic review. Thanks for your options, just picked this up.
I got the 5800x. My OCD decided it over the 5900x because I plan on mating it with the 6800xt
I upgraded to the 5800x from 2700x and its so smooth. Delighted with it.
The 5800X is a beast. I have mine at all stock BIOS settings, except for custom fan curves and turning on DOCP for the RAM and it's clocking up to 4.94Ghz on a Noctua NH-U14S. It normally doesn't go over 72 degrees under a real world heavy load. With Prime 95 during a torture test, it can reach 90C even, but only with the AVX instructions enabled. Even during the Prime 95 torture test, it was running at 4.6Ghz on all cores and never dropped below that. Geek bench gave me a 1720 single core benchmark. Sorry I lost the multi core Geekbench result, but it was over 10k that much I remember.
I'm using a Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Pro, a new mobo from Asus and Crucial Ballistics RAM at 3200Mhz. It's been updated to the most recent "stable" BIOS although it was running good out of the box.
I had been planning on getting the 5800x, even had one in my cart for pick-up but cancelled it because they raised the prices! it's now $30CAD over MSPR and if I'm going to cave I might as well spent the extra $130CAD for $5900x.. yes I'm worried about the latency as well, but I do a lot of transcoding for work and that will be worth it over gaming hopefully.
30CAD over MSRP? In Europe its 80€ over MSRP in average.
@@Matruchus ouch! I could have snagged a 5800x AT MSRP on launch day but was stuck at work. tried to skip over during a break and they were gone by then.
so far there hasn't been issues with 5900x on latency so far as I know none of the tech TH-cam came across anything bad as far as latency is concerned
@@Anthonyspartan514 I saw one video (hardware unboxed I think...) who said they didn't have a good way to test it yet so maybe that's why.
What's a "life" precious? ~In My Best Gollum voice....
Good video, nice to see a different slant from most of the other reviewers. Would love to see an overclocking video for beginners on getting the best out of the 5800X as it looks like it has the headroom to stretch. I went for the 5800x on launch day for your exact reasons, so pleased to see the benchmarking showed a positive result. Still waiting for my CPU to arrive (was changed to a pre order) but I think it will get here before my 3080 :(.
Mine tends to run hot, which I knew when I made the purchase so I planned my build around it. I have a 360 aio with the radiator on top and the fans under it pushing air from the inside out and 3 140mm fans on the front pulling cool air in. The front fans do not have to spin as fast to move the same amount of air so it is quiet there and the radiator blocks much of the noise from the internal fans. It does kick up to 90c during long stress tests, but even at those temps the clocks stay solid right around 4.5ghz on all cores. Once the tests are over it cools down pretty quick.
I also have a 5800x, h115i pro xt as cooling, 2 top and 1 back exhaust and 2 bottom ones, 3080 gpu. Out of the box the cpu ran very hot and throtled (for me) because it gave almost 1.4V. I undervolted in the bios (after ryzen master testing) and changed the PBO (power boost option) to negative 30 and now the cpu only gets around 1.2875V and does 4750 rock stable. Idle temps are now 36C and stresstested 83C. I recommend an undervolt my man.
@@spadedaman4958 Wow. What just a few hours of research can do for you. Managed to get to 4775 and finish 1 R20 test at 6305. Wasn't very stable but at those settings but when I kicked it down to what you gave it works just fine and I don't break 80c. Oh and only dropped to 6259 so still respectable.
I find alot of tech channels are very focused on high refresh rate gaming these days, whereas I barely ever hear about ultra wide for instance. I wish the Steam Survey would include in their monitor analysis something for Hz gaming.
Another tech tuber (Daniel Owen) has Ultra wide and in a recent video discussing their use quoted a figure of IIRC 1-2%.
You could ask him where he sourced the figure, as he interacts a lot. It would explain why they are ignored.
Mine arrived today and i had only problems since i put it in.
Made a BIOS update before, installed the latest chipset drivers (in fact i worked in IT and have some exp).
As soon i put the 5800X in i had constant blue screens, and crashes.
Tried everything, deactivating XMP, PBO, C-State control, installed a new Windows (and dropped all my VST-Plugins of my DAW for music producing...the whole reason i wanted to upgrade in the first place).
It kept crashing, i read into that problem, and saw many people and forums talking about it.
I know i could hassle around with voltages and such, but i want a stable out of the box experience, before i OC my setup.
Man what a bummer, i really wanted to like this CPU but so far it was one of the worst experiences, in my 20 years of IT.
RMA incoming and will settle on a 5700X i guess, hope that one won't let me down.
Subscribed since you are literally the only source I can find that agrees with me! Thank you!!
I prefer the 5900X and 5950X since they have double the write performance of single CCD chips. Same read perf, but doubled write.
hehe... Still playing the waiting game on this one since I couldn't buy one on time! I'll upgrade my PC eventually!
Thanks for the vid, Bryan!
I picked this one up. I just wanted an 8/16 zen3. It is what it is.
Short, sweet and to the point! Tech Yes Lovin distributed to the citizens! Thank you Bryan.
i know the value for money isnt there and most tech tubers say dont buy 5800x but the thing is 6 cores wont cut it for me based on what i do 12 cores in the other hand are overkill for me personally again , its nice to find a guy who is doing a great job and understands the needs someone could have and makes a product evaluation on your needs first and value for money last.
sorry for my poor english my 5800x is going to be here in 2 days !
Bro its the one I will get out the stack, great reviews as always your the real Champion
Highly recommended. Very impressed by it. Actually wanted the 5900x but it can't be found anywhere for a long while just like the 5800z so when the 5800x showed up grabbed it right away and I can't complain
My 5800x auto OC to 4.95 ghz with the Ryzen Master software, air cooled too. I'm using a Cryorig R1 cooler, 32gb ram @ 3733 (OC to 4000mhz), on a Aorus Ultra x570 mobo.
Same. Auto OC 4.95 GHz. Its stable and temperature < 90.
So i cand understand is no need to oc it manually? and if i do it will raise the temps? I ll make my build next week and i m thinking oc it to 4.8 ghz and with kraken x63 and a phanteks p 500a case i hope will stay under 85 degrees.
@@babanu65 You can just let the AMD Ryzen master software take care of it for you. It will auto detect your CPU and run a quick stress test to see where it can OC to. I traded my 5800x for a 5900x and used the software to OC my CPU. User easy to use, and will auto OC the CPU safely for you. My "default" clock speed on the 5900x is at 4.9ghz, and Auto OC can get 5.05ghz. I just leave it at 4.9ghz to have rock solid stability.
The 5600 should be the new performance and value king, waiting for that one
Awesome video, thanks mate! Really love that 5800x, but not loving the price tag =\
Very nice video. I've settled on the 3090 and 5800X under water.
Just upgraded 5 mins ago from a 3700x. I have not even loaded a game yet and its already a massive improvement! Snappier and smoother! I had a very poor day 1 3700x that barely hit 4.2ghz! The 5800x is boosting to 4.9ghz on every core! Im so happy :)
I bought the 5800X for FL studio, and I feel like it's a really good balance between core count and single thread performance. The single thread performance slays with FL studios workload, I can throw on a ton of effects and not have to worry. and 8 cores is perfect as FL doesn't really scale beyond that anyway.
@Adineo it relies more on single core perf more than anything. And it won't really scale beyond 8 cores. So something like the 5800X Is an absolute monster for audio processing. The 5600X would be great too, if it fits more in your budget.
@Adineo you always want more headroom to do stuff
@Adineo it's definitely a good option
I have a GTX 1080 and I just upgraded to a 5800X with 32 GB RAM from my i5 4670 with 16 GB of RAM and I have seen about a 50% increase in performance in every game (my old setup had a fresh install of Win 10 so it wasn't just me booting my clunky OS) and an increase on 3D Mark from 5900 to 7700.
I also got a 980 Pro nVe boot drive and that thing is seriously quick, I transferred a 4GB file to my 860 Evo SATA SSD in 3 or 4 seconds and its cold load time for Forza Horizon 4 is the same as what I get on the XBSeX (Ori Will of the Wisps looks amazing at 4K 120 on my new OLED)! I'm just waiting for my RTX 3080 to arrive and my PS5 I preordered.
Yeah I'm broke now.
I somehow feel that in value calculations, the expected life need to be included somehow. Maybe like a linearly depreciating assets. It would be difficult, but I feel the 8 core current chips would outlast the 6 core chips by a solid 1-2 years.
At 50% additional cost...
That's not a rational argument!
For productivity the R9 5900X offers 50% more cores and 2xL3 for
@@thepiratedownunder5420 true. I'm not arguing that 5800x is less value per $ than the 5600x. When I built my previous system, people said an i5 is enough for gaming and then ryzen landed. Now I am seeing visible stutter on new gen games on my i5 6500, even though the overall performance can be called satisfactory. If I had gone with the 6700k, it would have cost me 80% more (my local pricing for i7 was insane), but I would still not feel the need to upgrade quite yet. I'm just talking from my experience here
And the cost of upgrading the second time is much greater than if I had shelled out for the 6700k in the first place.
@@RobBCactive fair argument, but I'm not sure how many people build PC for productivity. My focus is definitely on gaming only. So a 12 core would definitely be wasted on me. The question here is if the difference of 2 cores between 6 core and 8 core would matter in a couple of years when PS5 titles PC ports are launched. I don't see the prices dropping until the old stock for 3000 series is sold, which might take some time as people are waiting for the rest of the 5000 series SKUs.I don't think a 5700 is going to launch before rocket lake, also the 8 core yields for AMD appear to be an issue for AMD, which may explain the weird positioning of the 5800x. So ,either I wait another 6 months or go with the subjective best option for me now
👍Thumbs Up👍& I have the B450 steel legend MOBO so is it as simple as calling them up to figure out if everything works together in regards to up grading the cpu? Just Typing (Thinking) Outloud againg🤭🤣🤫.Actually after watching this I'll just go 3600 from my 2600 amd cpu,wyt?
I bought the 3800xt last year against everyone's opinion and it works GREAT: I could overclock it 4.625ghz stable all cores.
I am going to put my filhy hands on the 5800x despite all the critics because the Ryzen 7 did NOT disapoint me in the past.
Great expectations for the 5800x seriously.
Authorative and balanced summary without theatrics. Subscribed... At least the hate has resulted in the 5800x being available at somewhere around MSRP here in the UK, which makes it better value compared to the 5600x marked up by 20% or more.
sorry to hear your quiet scream for help that Bryan. We're here for you brother
I got the 10600K for 230 dollars here in Denmark, it managed 5,2 ghz with no problems on water cooling and is to me one of the best gaming CPUs out there. It can reach 5 ghz on air cooling and I was surprised at the thermals, they are far better than the 10700K. Remember that the overclocked 10600k goes toe to toe with the 10900k in almost any gaming scenario.
If you are at 1440p + and have a top end 5 year old or newer CPU then just buy a top end GPU, no reason to upgrade your system for gaming purposes. I gave my best friend my old 6700K, he bought an RTX 3080 and is very comfortable at 1440p.
My gaming rig is built and moving on to my better half´s production work station which will of course be AMD, gathering the parts now but I want it all AMD and much of the newer hardware seems to be on short supply, will probably have to wait for January or February.
A year later and one of the only ones that got it right. Well played sir. 👍🏽
Great review I love the wqhd and 4K benches.
Great video Brian.
I was not sure about buying this chip. Glad I did saw this video. I want the 12 core. But with the semiconductor shortage I jump on this. Thanks for video.
The 5800X was the best Zen 3 CPU to buy for gaming period. Buying anything above it was a total waste of money unless you run all-core workloads on a regular basis and the 5600X is a drop in performance.
The only issue was launch price. For people who have been buying AMD CPUs, they know not to buy at launch. You wait a few month for AMD to start putting things on sale once supply builds up. From an MSRP of $450 to a current price of $300, which is below the MSRP of the 3700X, for which the 5800X easily beats, it's a no-brainer for people who bought into AM4. To build a new system so late in the product cycle, maybe you just wait. But since there's a dropoff in performance stepping down to the 5600X, at a current $230 USD, I'd rather just have the best gaming performance for the extra $70 USD.
I baught a very little used (just test installed) 5800x for only 300 dollars!! VERY happy with it and the price I got it for! :)
Currently happy with my 3600. But will love to pick this up next year as a Black Friday purchase.
Thanks for this mate. totally agree with this. 5800X is the best balanced CPU for this current lineup. The thing is, its priced badly. If these was at least 50 bucks cheaper then its gonna be the best selling. Personally though i go with this CPU. 5600x is just to expensive for a 6 core and 5900x is overkill for my personal use case. Anyways, looking forward for the next content.
It comes with Far Cry 6 also.
5800x is easy to get right now, they’ve been in stock everywhere, 5900x however .....
love your videos! though would you manually overclock the 5800x or use PBO on a curve and let XFR 2.0 do the work.
Bought a used 3700x a year ago for $220 shipped. Still the price per perf king!
Im just impressed how easy overclocking is now. I just switched PBO to manual only changed the offset to 200mhz and my 5800x now regularly boosts to 5,05ghz single core and 4,95 ghz 2-3 core boost
Upgraded to the 5800x from a 1600x. Performance difference is insane. Was worth the 200$ I paid for it.
Did the same I was stunned by the difference in csgo for ex, from 120 to 700 FPS 😂
Very happy with mine. It's a beast when you undervolt it.
Looking at real world pricing in Feb 21 in the UK, the 5800x actually kinda makes sense... The 5600x is going for £320, the 5800x for £420, and the 5900x for £600 (if in stock...) - so currently the 5800x is less than a third more than the 5600x and works out slightly better value. The 5900x is basically 50% more for 50% more, so it's pretty linear at that point
Personaly i would love to get my hands on the R7 5800X that would make my editing experience just amazing and gaming too. When i still had my X5690 4.5ghz setup on the rampage 2 extreme that was also great but the renders were 1:1 with the video lenght. I would love to get the 5800X but i cant afford it☹
got my hands on a 5800x today, i personally wasn't a fan of how hot it gets on default/stock settings, 85-90c is apparently normal, but just not comfortable for me. so after a few hours of tweaking, i managed to just disable PBO and any other boosts, went with an all-core OC of 4.5Ghz @ 1.2v, it runs coooool. dont see it go above 65c while gaming, 75c during bench, 40c on desktop idling. this is with a wraith prism cooler with a fan curve that stays at 950 RPM until after 68c. after these changes i felt much better with the cpu temps and performance, also yes..my usages are gaming/recording/streaming/video editing, so the 5800x hits the mark for my uses.
Don't get me wrong, I love the videos were you and other tech-tubers go right into the point, but for me at least the benchmark graphs goes way too fast.
I used to sitdown comfortably and just watch the info show while hearing at what you have to add and explain. Enjoying every second of your videos.
Now is like playing a video game, I have to have my mouse on hand and pause, play, pause, play, rewind, pause, play, fast foward, pause play and again and again.
I would really love to have the graphs on the screen time enough to atleast focus read most of the important things. Right now I feel if I read the game title, resolution and details setting the graph is already gone by the time I wana read the FPS result.
I bought one. It finally arrived. Can't wait to play with it.
After 2 months of use I can say that I don't regret buying this chip. The single core performance is just insane. Only issue I have with it is that it can run hot very quickly, I use a 360 mm AIO for cooling and it's barely sufficient. So I set it to eco mode in the bios which limits the power draw of the cpu to 88w and that seems to help a lot with the temperatures. Although there is a slight decrease in multi core performance (about 5-10%), in single core the scores actually increased a little. In games there is no noticeable performance hit.
I just want to support amd due to the push they have been doing. I'm upgrading from 4770k and will be going 5800x asap with 570 formula seeing I'm straight watercooling
I just got the 5800x for my wife's machine at a Microcenter here in the USA. It was $400 USD vs the 5600x for $280, but my wife doesn't like messing around with her computer any more often than is absolutely necessary.
The 5800x will stay relevant courtesy of those extra 2 cores/4 threads altogether longer than the 5600x would.
So I talked it over with her, as she's knowledgeable about these things but doesn't enjoy tinkering around with pc builds or messing around with them once she's got them set up how she likes them. She was more than happy for us to pay the extra $120 for a cpu that'll stay relevant for longer and maybe get her another year or even two of good performance in games when the 5600x's 6 core/12 thread situation might be fading into the mid-tier.
We're both pretty firmly convinced that the PS5 and Xbox Series X era is going to see PC games be optmized for those platforms as well or even firstly even moreso than was the case throughout the PS4/Xbox 1 era.
In a year or two, I think the 5800x will still be a solid contender for top-end performance in games, whereas I think anything less than 8 physical core and 16 thread solutions are going to be increasingly left behind. We can already see that happening to 4c/8t CPUs in a lot of games that were optimized hard for late-gen performance on PS4 Pro and XB1 platforms.
They still work, but it can't be disputed that the difference in performance between, say, a 4c/8t 7700k and a 6c/12t 8700k in a good many newer games is directly affected by core count. Right now, today, 6c/12t is the sweet spot in most games for top tier performance for the money, but I think that's largely due to that the PS4 Pro and the XB1X are 8c platforms that only actually use 6c for running games. The other 2c are generally reserved for the OS and background junk.
Console development really dictates a lot of what the standards are for game development, and there's no real mystery about why; they've got a much larger market share. PC ports of console games has been a much-complained-about reality for probably fifteen years or so, and its the standard anymore with almost all games, sometimes weirdly enough even with games made for PC that never wind up on the consoles they were developed to eventually migrate to.
I don't think 6c/12t CPUs are going to suddenly get bottom-tiered or anything, but I think they're going to go the route of 4c/8t a lot more quickly than it took for us to move past 4c/8t as the sweet spot for gaming. 8c/16t is going to be the new sweet spot real quick.
And I don't doubt for one second that, in about two years, we'll be seen games coming out that, all other factors being identical, will cough up something like 60 FPS on a 5600x and 90 FPS on a 5800x simply due to the games being optimized to take advantage of 8c/16t with increasing commonality.
So, my wife and I discussed this and she just about immediately decided that the extra $120 was worth being able to delay having to consider upgrading to a new mobo/ram/cpu baseline any sooner than will be necessary to stay in the upper tier of gaming performance.
We can easily afford it, but we aren't the sorts of people that like to spend money on things that don't make sense even if we could light it on fire and never miss it. Just isn't good practice or what smart people do, after all.
If you want the best gaming CPU for the money right now, today, the 5600x is a no-brainer. Get it, be happy with it, you didn't make a mistake.
If you want the best gaming CPU for right now and one that will remain a strong performer for years to come, the 5800x is going to stay in the high end longer. This won't mean a thing to you if you're the type that builds a new PC with new hardware every two years or so, because the 5600x will probably still be a strong performer in two years and the 5800x will probably be outclassed by whatever the big new thing is by that time.
But if you're like my wife and you like your desktop to be solidly good for at least five years, the 5800x is everything the 5600x is, just more of it. 2x/4t more of it, to be precise. Those extra cores will never be a detriment to you, and as time goes by, they're going to be taken advantage of more and more as 8c/16t becomes the new 4c/8t standard of yesteryear.
5800x Installed and running fine. Temps are lower than 72 degrees Celsius at all times in Prime95 (small FFT) (ambient temp is 27 degrees) with my Coolermaster Master Air MA620M. This CPU hits hard and in my case (pun intended) runs cool and quiet. All core clocks are nuts. Just enable AutoOC and let the CPU do the rest.
ordered the 5800X last week. Upgrading from Ryzen 5 3600.
As someone who is selling their 3600x, this decision to raise the prices for the 8 core makes me confused as to whether to just get it anyway or splurge a little more and get the 5900x even though I won't be able to leverage all the cores.
I purchased my 5800x last Thursday and I am watching the tracking number as it makes it way to me intently 😁
I bought the 5800x today pick it up tomorrow (already have the x570 tomahawk), I have the 3800x and was not going to upgrade until I saw the difference in VR performance in a YT video and the gains were huge! Non VR gaming performance boost was not enough to justify the money but the VR performance changed all that. Now to magically get a 3080 here in Aus before next year since unfortunately AMD failed when it comes to gpu's yet again :( the moment you turn on DLSS, raytracing or try to use the gpu as an encoder you will see why they failed again and I have yet to see any VR performance review with the new AMD cards. (shame I was really hoping to do an all team red build)
i went for 5800x because it fits my budget, also a whole new PC build after 7 years. it's a major upgrade for me. gaming+editing
Thanks bro!
Absolute common sense Bryan again. It's been slated by certain reviewers and I personally think it's perfect, it's matching consoles and thus will eb used correctly going forward, the 5600x now... at 6 cores, just not enough going forward for the next 3 years if you're building a keeper. For me, 5800x is the go to CPU for 2020/2021. Shame it wasn't just a few £ lower.
Why do you need the 8 core part to match the consoles? The consoles have lower clocked, Zen 2 8 cores. The 5600X alone crushes them. You don't need more than that if you're stricltly building a gaming PC.
@@RicochetForce because consoles are 8 core, games will eventually be optimsed for 8 core by default especially as so many console ports, meaning that you get maximum potential out of your cpu unlike today when it sits there scratching it's arse what to do with all those cores sitting at 35--50% usage. With console and game designers now having that leverage.... It makes absoltuely zero sense to have a 5600x going forward. .. when building any pc nowadays aimed at gaming especially if at 1080/1440... my opinion thought. Feel free to disagree. I myself went 8 core zeon instead of my old 6 core because the 6 core in some games was starting to show it's age i.e. BF5
@@MrPugheaven But the 6 core is is far more powerful than what's in the PS5 and Xbox Series X. You're going to be playing console ports from slower and weaker CPUs. 4 core Haswells were playing 8-core PS4 Pro/XB1X games at 90+ FPS. You don't need to match core count to be safe for the generation.
Hi great video.. just upgraded to this cpu and with a b550 AsRock gaming 4 itx but my benchmark test is really poor. I know I only have a 1050ti palit storm x GPU but surely this can do better? Any tips to get it to run better as no idea how to overclock or under volt.
Appreciate the alternative perspective on the 5600X, 5800X? I probably would wait for the 5700X and/or 5600, still not sure I want to invest more in 8 cores, by the time it matters maybe I'll be upgrading again anyway. How about a few tests, load up a system with a 5600X, run a couple of benchmarks with nothing open, then load your chrome, discord, spotify etc, run em again, rinse repeat with a 5800X? That would be really interesting because, I mean you'd want to test a couple of CPU intensive and CPU light games to see the differences
Just saw Benchmarks for this and the 10700K. If intel had PCIe 4 in that thing and I think it's cheaper now. That would be actually be "better". The 10700K comes within margin of error performance to the 5800X on 14nm+++++. Imagine if Intel was also using their own 7nm...
If you undervolt the 10700K with -100mv, you get 5GHz all core turbo on Cinebench with Noctua NH-U12A, the difference in multithread perfomance between 5800X and 10700K is 12% while the price difference is almost 100 dollars.
Thanks for talking sense Bryza, the 3600/5600X is there for people who want value, and the 5900x/5950x for those who need workstation. So many saying 5800X is such poor value because 5900X, but the 5800X is just as good at gaming for $100USD less. And it's pretty widely available.
Just picked up a 5800x just because it was the only zen3 5k series I could get without scalper prices. I'm sure it will be a solid processor for the next few years.
Any chance we get an esports titles benchmarks with the new ryzen cpus? LoL, Dota2, CSGo, Fortnite, R6, Rocket League ?
Just a suggestion, snicie you guys would be the first one to do one and all of esports is on 1080p
linus did, all the ryzen 5000 get like 600 to 700 fps in csgo. crazy
It’s good, but I just wish it was cheaper. On Newegg a few days ago you could get a 9900k and z390 for $430 that’s pretty good value for most people
Well now it’s $414*. It’s not the best mb but it’s still ok for normal use
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4199085&quicklink=true
Wow that's actually a pretty good deal even with the somewhat meh motherboard.
Great argument for the 5800x as the gaming king. I do not like the argument that others are proposing that you might as well pay up to the 5900x or just get the 5600x. you are getting a premium product with the 5800x and that extra $100 saved on not going for the 5900x can go to another component like the gpu or just be pocketed. And I also do not want my pc to have less cores than a console lol. Even if they are faster cores than what's in the consoles.
THANK YOU for backing my decision to get a 5800X.
I was kind of in doubt after hearing, what gamers nexus had to say about it. I thought it's a smart thing to do to get a cpu that has a full pack of 8 cores on one ccx sharing the same L3 cache memory. I payed 450€ for it and I think i'm fine with my purchase...
Edit: Got it for gaming only...
All the other Techtubers are saying this is the red-headed stepchild of the 5000 series because for $US100 more you can get the 5900x, that's all well and good but you could also have a 5800x and $100 to spend elsewhere. This is why I want the 5800x.
Such a great video! I've only seen people hate on the 5800x. Is this CPU a good option for someone looking to get into youtube video creation/editing and streaming, or should I hold out for the 5900x?
Thank you for this video, just got 5800x for 400 euros in Italy while 5900x is 720 euros.. Maybe at msrp price it would make sense to say that 5800x is kinda expensive but considering 5600x is up to 330 here i paid 400 for extra core and thread that will make this cpu last minimum 2 years longer when 6 core will become like 4 core today.
Love your content man!