You really brought forward the complexities of her life and of her personality. She’s usually painted black (great job of that by Jessica Raines in Wolf Hall by the way) so it’s great to explore all that gray area.
Great discussion about the notion of loyalty and human complexity. Jane's life certainly provides a good example. Thank you for one more fascinating episode 😊
Spectacular discussion...i feel that Lady Rochford is by far the most intriguing life of all the Tudors. I could go back in time and be a fly on the wall...I would never leave her side.
Ive always thought Jane Boleyn is one of those random characters From history That would just randomly make the greatest high budget historical drama series... i mean You could very easily average 2 seasons for every queen she served... or a historical fiction book series True enough, as I think this discussion very Wonderfully highlights, You would really Have to fill her personality in yourself.. But there's clearly enough general history from that Era That I feel one could efficiently Construct A character, a fictional plot & dialog that would fit very naturally in with real history...
Thank you both, she was certainly an interesting woman. I never really believed that she was leaking things to Henry. Thought it was a bit of a nice, made up story for books etc. the thing to me though , is why? Had Anne done something to offend her. Had her husband . ( Believe me, I’ve read some really good ‘theories’ about why. ). I did read somewhere that she wore black for the rest of her life. Do you think that would have been true or would she have been ‘sent packing’ from the court? And if she did so, why? Genuine mourning for her husband or a guilty conscience. What a shame we couldn’t be a fly on the wall sometimes. A very safe fly though 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
She hated Henry. She’d been forced to give evidence against her husband even if she was angry with him. Afterward, she was impoverished for a time. Henry was in ill health. Perhaps she imagined if Katherine got pregnant by Culpepper she’d have more power . In addition, if Henry died and Katherine married Culpepper, she’d have much more power. She loved court life and the luxury that went with it. She was also living through Katherine, I agree. But she thought she was smarter than she turned out to be.
@@PejiB-yo5pt I have offended you? He has offended you .People are easily mislead . My husband is a PhD and a college professor. In fact, Dean of his department. I assure you, even college professors find it pretentious.
@@LindaLinda80Linda linda x3, i assure you you havent offended me, but i think its a bit haughty to talk down to and speak as if with authority to a person for using the title they earned… calling someone Dr does not assume MD. If you have a problem with Dr, i trust you refer to your medical doctors as “Jane Smith MD” instead of Dr Smith?
You really brought forward the complexities of her life and of her personality. She’s usually painted black (great job of that by Jessica Raines in Wolf Hall by the way) so it’s great to explore all that gray area.
I loved your book on Jane.
The musical interludes make me bow to my cat. Nobody else here for my tapping toes. I do enjoy those a lot. ❤ from 🇺🇸. I want to go home😊.
Jane Boleyn is so intriguing… I will have to check out the new book.
Do! It's really good!
Outstanding Discussion, Thank You!✨
Great discussion about the notion of loyalty and human complexity. Jane's life certainly provides a good example. Thank you for one more fascinating episode 😊
Another riveting episode! Thank you both.
Spectacular discussion...i feel that Lady Rochford is by far the most intriguing life of all the Tudors. I could go back in time and be a fly on the wall...I would never leave her side.
Charles Bramdon, Henry's frat brother, was the ultimate survivor.
Ive always thought Jane Boleyn is one of those random characters From history That would just randomly make the greatest high budget historical drama series... i mean You could very easily average 2 seasons for every queen she served... or a historical fiction book series
True enough, as I think this discussion very Wonderfully highlights, You would really Have to fill her personality in yourself..
But there's clearly enough general history from that Era That I feel one could efficiently Construct A character, a fictional plot & dialog that would fit very naturally in with real history...
Thank you both, she was certainly an interesting woman. I never really believed that she was leaking things to Henry. Thought it was a bit of a nice, made up story for books etc. the thing to me though , is why? Had Anne done something to offend her. Had her husband . ( Believe me, I’ve read some really good ‘theories’ about why. ). I did read somewhere that she wore black for the rest of her life. Do you think that would have been true or would she have been ‘sent packing’ from the court? And if she did so, why? Genuine mourning for her husband or a guilty conscience. What a shame we couldn’t be a fly on the wall sometimes. A very safe fly though 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
She hated Henry. She’d been forced to give evidence against her husband even if she was angry with him. Afterward, she was impoverished for a time. Henry was in ill health. Perhaps she imagined if Katherine got pregnant by Culpepper she’d have more power . In addition, if Henry died and Katherine married Culpepper, she’d have much more power. She loved court life and the luxury that went with it. She was also living through Katherine, I agree. But she thought she was smarter than she turned out to be.
James Taffe, PhD is better and less pretentious than ‘Dr’.
Its ironically more than a touch pretentious to remark that
@@PejiB-yo5pt I have offended you? He has offended you .People are easily mislead . My husband is a PhD and a college professor. In fact, Dean of his department. I assure you, even college professors find it pretentious.
@@LindaLinda80Linda linda x3, i assure you you havent offended me, but i think its a bit haughty to talk down to and speak as if with authority to a person for using the title they earned… calling someone Dr does not assume MD. If you have a problem with Dr, i trust you refer to your medical doctors as “Jane Smith MD” instead of Dr Smith?