Who would you choose to live in the same moment forever? Interested in learning more about the Parentage cult? - th-cam.com/video/43bMQTqSOMQ/w-d-xo.html
Just finished the whole duoligy, and I gotta say: for two games about spooky triangles, the sunken and the lost are the most existentialy dreadful fates I can imagine. Like I know they're the "antagonists" but no matter what you do, or how well you do it, they are stuck in some void dimension *forever.* Repeating their fates *over, and over, and over again.*
I totally agree. They are the type of antagonists that you can actually relate to. I mean, at some point the desperation to get out of a never ending existence means many of us would put our morals to the side...or we'd at least consider it.
This is the BEST story analysis I have seen so far, I just had an all nighter to play through the whole game in one sitting, and spent another couple hours after I woke up researching all the different endings. I been watching others videos and feeling a lot of second guessing myself and feeling bad because "ah shoot I should have made that choice to get that way cooler ending", but this video made me feel some closure in my choices, thank you for that :))) , and grateful as well for covering Parentage in your other video, cuz during the game I was so curiouis hearing about the origins of parentage with the fire on the island and such, I wish I had more in game.
I'm so glad that this video made you feel at ease with your decisions! It can be so hard making choices knowing that means you won't know the outcome of the other options. Especially in a game like this where you have to make decisions so quickly! I also wished they had more about Parentage in the game. They did such a good job on the build up and I wanted to be sure to include some of that too.
Thank you so much! I agree that these games are so layered with world-building and lore and they blend the existential issues we all face seamlessly with the super natural.
Nice video, I just wanted to say that I found a disturbing detail about the Riley Ending. When I was about to finish my 3rd playthrough, I chose Riley. And after Riley entered the portal and woke up in the bus stop, I choose to take a look at the parentage building. Of my surprise, the gate was open. I entered the building with Rex and saw that the building was empty and quiet, and Riley was no longer able to interact with the closed doors or items around. When I thought there's nothing else here to see, I saw the Adult Rex upstairs, holding his fishing rod in his hands, looks like he was fishing inside the building and siting in a way that look like as if he was levitating? He wasn't saying anything and you were unable to interact with him aswell. But you could see his hands and shoulders were moving, ensuring that this was not a stiff image of him. But nothing alse happened. May I have missed something? It caught me off guard and I found it creepy. This is also my second time writing this comment because I tried to share the link of the screenshot I took at the moment. What do you think?
Oh! That is very interesting. I didn't even think to go that way lol...I wonder if since she decided to stay with Rex as a child, that means that adult Rex never existed in that timeline. He was a part of her future, not her present, so maybe that was the him that would have been if he had been allowed to grow up but since young Rex got stuck in a time loop with her in the forest, that is like an echo of the him that would have been. Sorta like the echoes of Alex and her friends on the beach. A memory of what could have been. What do you think?
@@pixeljurnee This also makes me wonder. Were all the future memories of Riley we saw actually part of that loop? Did all those memories happened in the same day? If the loop was an entire day of Riley and Rex jogging through the island and chatting, that means Riley wasn't seeing her future with Rex, she was seeing her fate. She was seeing herself staying in the loop with her son that was her actual future! And that makes Riley's ending sort of "the Canon Ending". I mean, the first memory we saw was Riley and Rex reaching the top of the hill in daytime, the moment almost right after Riley's ending. Maybe adult Rex was also stuck because of this, and tried to save his mother and so himself by speaking with his mother's pregnant self both face to face and through the walkie to encourage her getting out. But he kinda fails when his mother sacrifices herself and gets into the loop. That might be the reason I saw him. Or me encountring him in the Parentage building was just some glitch. Is there any way for me to show the screenshot I took to you? I obviously can't share the link since youtube deletes it automatically. Maybe you can also try going to the building to see him yourself.
Oh! I like the idea of what Rex tries to do ultimately fails because she sacrifies herself. Because that is not what he wanted. He wanted her to fight for herself, for him, for their future. And yes being stuck in a loop with him as a child allowed for her to always have a good relationship with her, but also that means that she does not grow as a person. She doesn't have to deal with the stress in their relationship. I'll go in, I think the save file is still there and see I see him too then I'll let you know!
Jacob was my first pick and is the best choice. Olivia is a grieving child and Riley is pregnant. Jacobs rationale for going is also the most logical according to his own standards.
I think it's impressive that you chose Jacob first, seems like most people didn't (at least at the time I played). I was actually surprised he was willing to go (in my first playthrough) but ultimately it made sense, for the reasons you mentioned. It really gave his life purpose.
@pixeljurnee I wasn't mean to him either I just ignored a lot of his small talk, which I found obnoxious, and focused on the mission. This included self disclosure for Riley as part of the theme of professionalism. I felt it actually fit her character more due to her past trauma and military experience. It felt a bit forced otherwise. There were moments of compassion though, mainly with the children and dog. I actually wish there was an option to select Alex as I felt she was culpable in this whole situation and her manipulation of the kids was an issue. Her entire dialogue around future outcomes was suspicious to me as a result.
I really, really, hated doing the playthrough where I had to be mean to Jacob (I felt the same way in the first one being mean to Jonas) but when I was mean to him, that is the playthrough where I selected to him. His small talk seemed like his last ditch effort to connect with someone, anyone besides his dog and with Riley being a jerk to him, to me it almost felt like he had nothing really left to look forward to and connect with. The sacrifice gave his life a purpose he wouldn't have otherwise had. But, yes, I totally agree that Alex should have been the one to go...I feel like she'd started to change as a result of being stuck in the loop for what likely felt like forever for her. It would have been a nice resolution.
@pixeljurnee That's a fair assessment about Jacob. Maybe I was just in a less charitable mood that day and didn't want to hear it :) Whats interesting is that Alex remembers everything in the end and still seems fine by it. I don't know how that maddness didn't follow her into the real world. On the one hand she's willing to sacrifice a kid to get out of thst horror show but on the other she's acting like it's another day to go shopping. Unless I missed something. They should have had a psychiatric tape for her as well or had her stay as a hermit on the island to try to figure out a way to save Olivia and possibly the others. I suspect they will do a 3rd one though.
Who would you choose to live in the same moment forever?
Interested in learning more about the Parentage cult? - th-cam.com/video/43bMQTqSOMQ/w-d-xo.html
Just finished the whole duoligy, and I gotta say: for two games about spooky triangles, the sunken and the lost are the most existentialy dreadful fates I can imagine.
Like I know they're the "antagonists" but no matter what you do, or how well you do it, they are stuck in some void dimension *forever.* Repeating their fates *over, and over, and over again.*
I totally agree. They are the type of antagonists that you can actually relate to. I mean, at some point the desperation to get out of a never ending existence means many of us would put our morals to the side...or we'd at least consider it.
thanks for spoilers
This is the BEST story analysis I have seen so far, I just had an all nighter to play through the whole game in one sitting, and spent another couple hours after I woke up researching all the different endings. I been watching others videos and feeling a lot of second guessing myself and feeling bad because "ah shoot I should have made that choice to get that way cooler ending", but this video made me feel some closure in my choices, thank you for that :))) , and grateful as well for covering Parentage in your other video, cuz during the game I was so curiouis hearing about the origins of parentage with the fire on the island and such, I wish I had more in game.
I'm so glad that this video made you feel at ease with your decisions! It can be so hard making choices knowing that means you won't know the outcome of the other options. Especially in a game like this where you have to make decisions so quickly! I also wished they had more about Parentage in the game. They did such a good job on the build up and I wanted to be sure to include some of that too.
Honestly, I just finished the game and I choose to sacrifice Riley and wow being stuck… feel sad didn’t want that for her
Great video! Both of the oxenfree games have great worldbuilding and lore. Imo they're not talked about enough.
Thank you so much! I agree that these games are so layered with world-building and lore and they blend the existential issues we all face seamlessly with the super natural.
Yeah I would never choose to live the same moment forever lol.
This seems like a game you could play more than once. There's so much going on.
Definitely...I played 4 times to get all of the information. It's amazing how willing they all were to live a moment on repeat....
@@pixeljurnee Yes exactly. oh and congrats with your 300 subscriber milestone! Thats amazing
@@BellaGameSter thanks so much!
Underrated video! Loved this.
Glad you liked it!
Nice video, I just wanted to say that I found a disturbing detail about the Riley Ending.
When I was about to finish my 3rd playthrough, I chose Riley. And after Riley entered the portal and woke up in the bus stop, I choose to take a look at the parentage building. Of my surprise, the gate was open. I entered the building with Rex and saw that the building was empty and quiet, and Riley was no longer able to interact with the closed doors or items around. When I thought there's nothing else here to see, I saw the Adult Rex upstairs, holding his fishing rod in his hands, looks like he was fishing inside the building and siting in a way that look like as if he was levitating? He wasn't saying anything and you were unable to interact with him aswell. But you could see his hands and shoulders were moving, ensuring that this was not a stiff image of him. But nothing alse happened. May I have missed something?
It caught me off guard and I found it creepy. This is also my second time writing this comment because I tried to share the link of the screenshot I took at the moment. What do you think?
Oh! That is very interesting. I didn't even think to go that way lol...I wonder if since she decided to stay with Rex as a child, that means that adult Rex never existed in that timeline. He was a part of her future, not her present, so maybe that was the him that would have been if he had been allowed to grow up but since young Rex got stuck in a time loop with her in the forest, that is like an echo of the him that would have been. Sorta like the echoes of Alex and her friends on the beach. A memory of what could have been. What do you think?
@@pixeljurnee This also makes me wonder. Were all the future memories of Riley we saw actually part of that loop? Did all those memories happened in the same day? If the loop was an entire day of Riley and Rex jogging through the island and chatting, that means Riley wasn't seeing her future with Rex, she was seeing her fate. She was seeing herself staying in the loop with her son that was her actual future! And that makes Riley's ending sort of "the Canon Ending".
I mean, the first memory we saw was Riley and Rex reaching the top of the hill in daytime, the moment almost right after Riley's ending.
Maybe adult Rex was also stuck because of this, and tried to save his mother and so himself by speaking with his mother's pregnant self both face to face and through the walkie to encourage her getting out. But he kinda fails when his mother sacrifices herself and gets into the loop. That might be the reason I saw him.
Or me encountring him in the Parentage building was just some glitch. Is there any way for me to show the screenshot I took to you? I obviously can't share the link since youtube deletes it automatically. Maybe you can also try going to the building to see him yourself.
Oh! I like the idea of what Rex tries to do ultimately fails because she sacrifies herself. Because that is not what he wanted. He wanted her to fight for herself, for him, for their future. And yes being stuck in a loop with him as a child allowed for her to always have a good relationship with her, but also that means that she does not grow as a person. She doesn't have to deal with the stress in their relationship. I'll go in, I think the save file is still there and see I see him too then I'll let you know!
Jacob was my first pick and is the best choice. Olivia is a grieving child and Riley is pregnant. Jacobs rationale for going is also the most logical according to his own standards.
I think it's impressive that you chose Jacob first, seems like most people didn't (at least at the time I played). I was actually surprised he was willing to go (in my first playthrough) but ultimately it made sense, for the reasons you mentioned. It really gave his life purpose.
@pixeljurnee I wasn't mean to him either I just ignored a lot of his small talk, which I found obnoxious, and focused on the mission. This included self disclosure for Riley as part of the theme of professionalism. I felt it actually fit her character more due to her past trauma and military experience. It felt a bit forced otherwise.
There were moments of compassion though, mainly with the children and dog.
I actually wish there was an option to select Alex as I felt she was culpable in this whole situation and her manipulation of the kids was an issue. Her entire dialogue around future outcomes was suspicious to me as a result.
I really, really, hated doing the playthrough where I had to be mean to Jacob (I felt the same way in the first one being mean to Jonas) but when I was mean to him, that is the playthrough where I selected to him. His small talk seemed like his last ditch effort to connect with someone, anyone besides his dog and with Riley being a jerk to him, to me it almost felt like he had nothing really left to look forward to and connect with. The sacrifice gave his life a purpose he wouldn't have otherwise had. But, yes, I totally agree that Alex should have been the one to go...I feel like she'd started to change as a result of being stuck in the loop for what likely felt like forever for her. It would have been a nice resolution.
@pixeljurnee That's a fair assessment about Jacob. Maybe I was just in a less charitable mood that day and didn't want to hear it :)
Whats interesting is that Alex remembers everything in the end and still seems fine by it. I don't know how that maddness didn't follow her into the real world. On the one hand she's willing to sacrifice a kid to get out of thst horror show but on the other she's acting like it's another day to go shopping. Unless I missed something.
They should have had a psychiatric tape for her as well or had her stay as a hermit on the island to try to figure out a way to save Olivia and possibly the others. I suspect they will do a 3rd one though.
The reason why I didn't ask Jacob to go through the portal is he will always be the guy he fixes things, and nothing else. That's not what he wanted.
Amazing video!!! 🙌👍
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You helped this one cross the 1K threshold! Thank you so much for watching!