Remember, Nuka Cola was working with the U.S. military on Project Cobalt so it would make sense for a Chinese operative to be snooping around one of their plants for any information on the project itself.
@@void-master9077 Really wasn't necessary though. Once power armor and fat man launchers started rolling out the war was heavily in america's favor. It's a shame really. Well yes it was a war, it began to take a dark turn when the US decided to invade china rather than seek diplomatic options after successfully defending itself. But that was likely due to the enclave's influence within their government and absolutely did not try to seek a long term option that would benefit the american public as a whole. Probably thanks to their cooperation with vault tec. Which would make even more sense if by Epicnate's word is correct and that they did infact initiate nuclear war. Meaning the enclave was planning on the world blowing up.
I think China still exists They have a literal underground city in Bejing because they were worried about nuclear war with Russia. Imagine how many more and how much bigger there would be in this timeline
It probably would be more like the Vaults in Fallout, communities that survived but were separated and so developed independently (hopefully with less of them being experiments on humanity.) It would make sense also for their to be some sort of chinese equivalent to the Enclave also.
I'd honestly imagine that most decent sized countries are still populated like the US is, the only countries that'd be completely depopulated of pre war inhabitants would probably be smaller countries like Singapore or Luxembourg
Knowing china. They would be more successful than Post-War America... BUT there nation, there country Sweats Civil Wars/Rebellions. Sure Post-War China is more economically and Financially better then America but the Civil Wars/Uprisings will be countless
@@catcrimes80 I don't know if successful. Chinese history is full with periods of civil war, small kingdoms, and a *lot* of warlords. Now add Atomic holocaust and all those problems are up to eleven. If America is now full of lawless lands and petty nations, with the notion of unity under one flag now long gone, I don't want to think about how China is doing.
The Chinese spy book and uniform being in the pentagon doesn't necessarily mean there were Chinese spies in the pentagon. It could be the other way around. American spies learning how to use Chinese equipment in order to infiltrate China. Other then that minor detail. I loved the video. I hope you continue making more.
But why would American soldiers be learning to use Chinese equipment in service tunnels under the Pentagon? Wouldn't they be sent to a specialized training facility instead? No, the corpses you find there were definitely spies.
Its kind of sad if you think about it,these guys were fighthing a war which no side would really win,they never discovered what happened to their families and would never manage to get home.They would have to live in isolation as many people wouldn't tolerate them and hate them as they destroyed america.They would die off never managing to return home...
@@mrgamerguy9104 We actually don't know much about the Ideology of China by the time of the Great war, the Timeline diversifies when Mao is still alive. So they might still be communists, have gone a route similar to that of our real world, or maybe something completely different. We only know that they were probably more authoritarian than in our timeline, since that's the case for the US too.
@@vsaucemikal8888 Yup! Not annoying clowning, just quality sarcastic humor. And not annoying and loud over excited voice that almost every youtuber does
There will undoubtedly be pronounciation errors, I can barely speak my own language let alone someone else’s (so take it easy on me) here it is as promised! Super Mutants will be next, but what would you like to see after that?
Do seperate videos for each individual power armor in each game, it would make a good mini series type thing, the videos may not be long but they would be awsome if they r made by you
@@wisdomleader85 probably not considering romance of the three kingdoms was written in the 17th century and its author probably would barely know what zoroastrianism is considering it was A: a foreign religion and B: a dead religion
@@Vexin980 written 1522 so we were both off. Regardless by 1522 zorastrianism had been a minor religion for centuries, practically forgotten by the world outside of Iran.
@@mappingshaman5280 That information was wrong. It was published in the early 1320s. Yes that's what Google says, but Google is wrong about the weirdest things.
Begone Oxhorn, a new champion enters the ring. I am delighted to see your channel growing so quickly, you are my newest favorite fallout lore storyteller.
I mean Oxhorn is a well known Bethesda shill that was definitely on their payroll in the past. He also has a habit of striking smaller channels then him because he is an insecure incels. Yeah look at his past and his homophobic remarks. The bar is not that high in the Fallout lore community sadly. But yes this channel is excellent. Nothing more to say on that front.
I think its very important of them to reference stuff like Japanese internment camps in their story because as we've seen, its not hard for that stuff to happen again.
imagine if theres a fallout game where its set in asia and the there are factions that came from descendants of american soldiers who got stranded there
Basically the BoS from FO4 and NV if they also acted like Enclave. I'm saying they would continue slaughtering any Chinese they see because war never changes.
Consider the fact that the PRC loosed their missiles and plunged the entire world into nuclear fire purely because they started a fight they couldn't win and were on the verge of defeat by a superior enemy. It's the height of pettiness to wreck the entire planet like that because you're about to lose. It's like picking a fight with a bigger guy and then burning the bar down when he kicks your ass.
@@MK_ULTRA420 Which is why it's a good thing we've pulled out of that ridiculous Cold War era ABM Treaty. Maybe if we have a proper missile shield and they try something stupid like that IRL, they'll think twice about launching an ineffective first strike and just take the L in a conventional war.
I remember the first Chinese dude I encountered one day. He must’ve been in a plane crash or something and just fell from the sky and landed outside the Super Duper Mart. I went up to him and saw he was obviously dead. I felt really sad. Wished I’d known more about him. Also, he was a ghoul. He must’ve been even more lonely. I took his ammo and gun but that was it. Wish you could bury people in the games.
Yeah, same here. It's sad, but at the same time, it's also interesting: a Chinese remnant soldier managed to get hold of a functioning aircraft, and most likely tried to fly to China, but ended up falling out of the craft and dying.
@@CFC-xi8dz Bro I haven't played a fallout game in a couple years but I still watch Oxhorn before I go to bed sometimes. Like a soothing bedtime story about nuclear apocalypse.
@@gelyknife6975 according to a terminal, the Chinatown arches were burned down and inhabitants were forced into hiding similar to the nazis and the jews during ww2
The saddest story probably has to be Zao from the Yangtze in Fallout 4. He really regretted nuking Boston, but he had to follow orders. All he wants is to go home, but China is probably nothing more than a crater in Fallout.
Considering that we can actually see china in fallout 3 dlc mothership zeta, as a giant crater, highly doubt anyone are still alive, but i could be wrong. Also, for all we know, mothership zeta might not be even cannon
@@bunnitomoe3866 According to drafts of a game called Fallout Extreme, China has survived and there was an Imperial Faction that was threatening to nuke America and the Brotherhood of Steel is trying to stop them, and IRL, there is an underground city built under Beijing. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese had a similar system in every other major city and I bet if Obsidian had it their way, they would Retconn China being a crater in Mothership Zeta
@@smiley4995 Insurbordination will get you a court-martial. In the People's Republic of China there are three levels of military courts: military courts of the People's Liberation Army, military courts of military district-level units, and military courts of corps and military-level units.
it would open the door for so many cool creature designs considering china’s fate. if i recall in fallout 2, the U.S. invasion campaign in china was a complete stomp due to the use of biological weapons, most likely the FEV virus. i think the americans were also heavily reliant on bombers while the chinese used nuclear submarines to launch short range missiles, so china was probably bombed far less
At 6:10 you question whether you're overthinking a skill book placement, but at the exact same moment I was amazed by the realization that I'd been IGNORING the placement of items such as these and the stories the level designers were trying to tell through them! Countless times I've picked up a skill book and thought "huh, neat" and just keep right on moving.
When I first read some of the names and entries at mama dolces (John Johnson) I thought they were just extremely over the top American names consistent with the lore. Only recently did the enclave quests and were told they were Chinese spies using these hilariously obvious names. Fallout 76 is very underrated and if anyone loves this series it is a must play
Sounds just like Yoyodyne in "The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension" where all of the aliens have the first name John and when checking the employee records they see that all of them were hired on the same day.
I'm a bit late, but I found your channel recently, and I must say, it is a great source of lore involving the Fallout universe. Thank you for being such a great narrator of this interesting timeline!
@@stevenx399 the single least accurate stereotype about British people. Most of us are completely incomprehensible, and the others barely speak the language
@@lookihaveausernametoo4231 I understand pretty much all British accents because of the area I live in, to people who don't live in those areas some accents are next to impossible to understand though
@@raresthornet I can understand most accents full stop from how diverse they are near where I live it truly is a miracle. Or it would be if anyone could understand me
I think you missed one, one of the residents of Tenpenny tower claims he is the descendant of one of the Chinese Leaders. The resident is Irving Cheng if I recall correctly and he’s got a lot to say. Also in the Pitt there is a building with a Chinese commando hat (the only one you can get in the game I think) and a bunch of Chinese assault rifles.
@@Synonymous101 well technically the Shi are descendants of the Chinese, not the actual Chinese government themselves. So if the Shi can be counted as Chinese remnants idk why Irving wouldn’t be.
@@LucyWest370 I wouldn't count the shi as remnants, that's why I only mentioned the crew from the wrecked sub, but the room in the pitt is unmisstakently a chinese spy safe house!
15:30 to me its honestly pretty interesting to think that the nuke you see in the Fallout 4 intro, the nuke that essentially killed your family along with your world, was fired by a crew you can help even going so far as to somewhat befriend the commander who literally gave the order to launch the missiles.
You're part of a military family, you would know that it wasn't the commander's choice. Of course you'd feel sympathetic to him. Nate and Nora absolutely would know what it'd feel like being seperated from your loved ones, (And in Nate's case, his home,) futhering their sympathy.
I definitely think it’s a nice little roleplay opportunity. You can either be the bitter angry vet/vet’s wife who wants revenge on the crew for basically ruining his life, or you can be the traumatized and overwhelmed vet/vet’s wife who realizes that at the end of the day, everyone has suffered from the Great War and for the most part was just a pawn in a larger game.
I love your overthinking of the placment of a chinese skill book. It really brings to light the curiosity and ambition you have towards the franchise and the lore involved. Love the videos as well 👍
"Ghouls, both American and Chinese, completely indescernible from one another roam the camp together." That is a very touching and uplifting display of egalitarianism and human brotherhood. Pity none of them are cogniscant of the irony in this state.
After months of watching lore videos and "can you beat using only" videos i found your channel today and every video ive learned something new from a series i have lived for years! Great work, keep it up
I'd love to see a Fallout game set in China. So we can experience the destruction on the other side too & how they're coping up with it. BETHESDA......make it happen!!!!!
I'm pretty sure with China's megacities getting wiped out that they've been reduced to nomadic tribes of ghouls and cattle herders, with CCP remnants vying for power while the remaining US power armor troops continue the war efforts, slaughtering the few remaining Chinese people. If the East Coast BoS was willing to nuke the Institute for basically nothing, I don't see why U.S. power armor soldiers wouldn't be hunting Chinese for fun. edit: I wonder what they call Yao Guais in China, if they even have them...also I'd love to see the rise of a nomadic horse rider culture taking over like the Mongols or the Huns.
They wouldn't be hunting CCP remnants "for fun". It'd be because their government nuked the US and likely killed all those troops' families along with wrecking the entire planet over starting a fight they couldn't at least lose at gracefully. I would be curious about a panda version of a yao guai, though.
What Beth should do is make spin off games around the world. So fallout 1, 2, 3,4, 76, (and also 5, 6 ect if we get them) all in America and then have other games around the world and if they put lots of effort and look at what the fandom as come up with they can make a decent game
Each time I'd came across remnants of chinese presence in the US, I can't help but think about the thousands US troops who were fighting on mainland China when the bombs dropped, did they all just died ? Did some live to build a "little america" like the Shi did, or even US army ghouls still fighting what's left of China's people to continue the fight after 200 years? Also you forgot about the Chinese presence in Pittsburgh/ The Pitt ! But we don't learn much at all from theme besides that they were probably just another chinese spy cell hidden in the US
Would be super dope if we got content from Bethesda with the situation in China. Even dlc would have be dope like a successful trip back on the Yangtze-31 with captain zao. Slim chance but I guess what makes stories like these so interesting is it allows us to ponder on the potential stories playing out all over the fallout vers. 🤘🏼
Really cool you covered this instead of just people ignoring it because they think whole series is about China bad lol. Huge amount we do not know about when it comes to them in this different timeline aside from being communist, be cool to see a spinoff there to get some nuance.
Love these fallout lore videos! Use the community tab to get more interaction and possibly post voting polls and such, your channel deserves many more subs!
Well great, I found a new channel to eat away all my time. Seriously though, your fallout content is among the best on here. Your subdued reactions toward the lore and informative delivery are much appreciated.
Yo yo yo it’s been a while, looks like you’re channel exploded, nice my man, like I said on a video a long time ago I’m glad I was immortalized in the comments section when you had less than 200 subs
Your videos are always super well put together and I really respect the research and effort you put into it. I'd love to see a video from you on the history of Caesar and the legion
I'm so glad I found this channel, specialy after having re-visited 3. On that note I played Broken steel for the first time and was wondering if you could do the video about all the changes on the DLC (how each area is affected and how those changes play out if you release the virus or not)
Interesting point about the Covert Ops skill books. Never really thought about it but that's a great idea. A Shi Lore video would be awesome, doesn't look like there's much out there right now.
I like the tone of your videos. They are calm, serious but not boring. It feels more like a professional documentary than a lore video on TH-cam which is realy nice!
8:34 kinda poetic if you look at it that way. Ghouls, both american and chinese. Roaming the wastes. Together. implying mutual destruction of the nukes.
It makes me happy to see your channel doing well with all these new subscribers in such a short amount of time. This is quality content, you deserve it all!
considering that Bethesda bought the license, i'd say they saw the potential of the franchise. even though they had not truly unlocked it's potential to it's fullest.
So when you said "...and he knew it." All that I could think of was the family guy skit where peter pretends to play baseball and is demoted down the leagues.
Damnnnn the deathclaw video really boosted your channel, i knew people would recognize your hard workk! i remember when you had only 300 subsribers! Good job im happy for you.
I really like your videos: most fallout (and elder scrolls) lore videos have awkward teenagers with a poor vocabulary narrating them, making crazy speculations that lead nowhere. You have a good voice and say what there is to it.
I was lulled by those sweet, mellow tones until I heard "Nu Ca Lur." Nuclear sounds like New Clear. Keep up the good work. I really am coming to love your videos, even when you go over things I already knew.
I love these videos, they are well made and he's put an incredible amount of work into them. I still cringe everytime I hear him mispronounce "nuclear" lol, but I'm loving these lore deep dives.
I like that the reason why the Yao guai aren't called bears is because the Chinese were the ones who named it, but then they put it on f4 where there were no Chinese remnants as far as I could tell Just another lazy thing Bethesda did with no in game lore reason but the recognizable brands they already had.
Love this video! I really wish the Remnants (particularly the Ghoulifed ones in Fallout 3) could have been like their own mini-faction with actual quests or something, perhaps disillusioned with their homeland, but still not too keen on Americans way of life.
I really enjoy the videos man they are the perfect things to watch when I'm trying to sleep or when I want to learn some good fallout lore you really go into detail and I love it I hope you keep making more videos :)
I gotta say, I watched another video on this subject today and although the bar was not set very high, your video knocks it out of the bark as my dog would say.
I thought it was hilarious that the Chinese and the Enclave managed to build secret bases a few hundred yards from each other at White Springs.
Each one is like they'll never find me. Yeah this is big brain time.
They're sitting in their bunkers "we'll find those bastards eventually. No matter how far or how long it takes"
fuck 76
@@pupa-mi-ai_ciocanu_punctRO 76 is awesome
@@MaleviahBurned good graphics and environment, ruined by multiplayer
Remember, Nuka Cola was working with the U.S. military on Project Cobalt so it would make sense for a Chinese operative to be snooping around one of their plants for any information on the project itself.
Thank you! Feels so good to have a genuine reason for it being there, what a relief
Nuka Cola is very secretive anyways.
I feel like they could’ve done more for the military than they actually were allowed to be honest.
@@void-master9077 Really wasn't necessary though. Once power armor and fat man launchers started rolling out the war was heavily in america's favor. It's a shame really. Well yes it was a war, it began to take a dark turn when the US decided to invade china rather than seek diplomatic options after successfully defending itself. But that was likely due to the enclave's influence within their government and absolutely did not try to seek a long term option that would benefit the american public as a whole. Probably thanks to their cooperation with vault tec. Which would make even more sense if by Epicnate's word is correct and that they did infact initiate nuclear war. Meaning the enclave was planning on the world blowing up.
Yeah, but the thing I want to know is; how did that employee know about Project Cobalt?
"His battle with gravity appears to be a losing one."
[Speech 100]
CJ vibes
...Pinochet?
Damnnnnn, didn't expect that at all. Chilean here, that part of our history is really fucked up 💀@@bcubed72
AND JOES BATTLE AGAINST TRUMP SEEMS TO BE A LOSING ONE
I think China still exists
They have a literal underground city in Bejing because they were worried about nuclear war with Russia. Imagine how many more and how much bigger there would be in this timeline
It probably would be more like the Vaults in Fallout, communities that survived but were separated and so developed independently (hopefully with less of them being experiments on humanity.)
It would make sense also for their to be some sort of chinese equivalent to the Enclave also.
I'd honestly imagine that most decent sized countries are still populated like the US is, the only countries that'd be completely depopulated of pre war inhabitants would probably be smaller countries like Singapore or Luxembourg
Knowing china. They would be more successful than Post-War America... BUT there nation, there country Sweats Civil Wars/Rebellions. Sure Post-War China is more economically and Financially better then America but the Civil Wars/Uprisings will be countless
@@elguerotapatio9258 Would they even have been nuked though?
@@catcrimes80 I don't know if successful. Chinese history is full with periods of civil war, small kingdoms, and a *lot* of warlords. Now add Atomic holocaust and all those problems are up to eleven. If America is now full of lawless lands and petty nations, with the notion of unity under one flag now long gone, I don't want to think about how China is doing.
The Chinese spy book and uniform being in the pentagon doesn't necessarily mean there were Chinese spies in the pentagon. It could be the other way around. American spies learning how to use Chinese equipment in order to infiltrate China.
Other then that minor detail. I loved the video. I hope you continue making more.
But why would American soldiers be learning to use Chinese equipment in service tunnels under the Pentagon? Wouldn't they be sent to a specialized training facility instead? No, the corpses you find there were definitely spies.
This is personally the way I view it as well
Yeah why spies still carrying manual books on mission
Actually I just started playing when I posted the comment. Maybe the manual book just boost spies’ status just like it is to the player lol
I thought of them as educational/military briefing/training props.
Its kind of sad if you think about it,these guys were fighthing a war which no side would really win,they never discovered what happened to their families and would never manage to get home.They would have to live in isolation as many people wouldn't tolerate them and hate them as they destroyed america.They would die off never managing to return home...
Okay Mini Hitler
Well, you are right they are still soldiers. But I hate commies so yeah.
Yup. They would be hated even though the americans probably did the same to their country
@@mrgamerguy9104 We actually don't know much about the Ideology of China by the time of the Great war, the Timeline diversifies when Mao is still alive. So they might still be communists, have gone a route similar to that of our real world, or maybe something completely different. We only know that they were probably more authoritarian than in our timeline, since that's the case for the US too.
@@pmcshow44 "might still be Communist"
it's painfully obvious you never played Fallout 3. Do you even Liberty Prime bro?
These Fallout lore videos are so well done and very entertaining to watch keep it up!
He's the new storyteller.
Dude fr these lore videos made me start a new character in fallout 3
"can you beat fallout with..'' are very entertaining videos too. You should give them a chance if you haven't already :)
And unlike other fallout channels I can stomach and enjoy his voice
@@vsaucemikal8888 Yup! Not annoying clowning, just quality sarcastic humor. And not annoying and loud over excited voice that almost every youtuber does
There will undoubtedly be pronounciation errors, I can barely speak my own language let alone someone else’s (so take it easy on me) here it is as promised! Super Mutants will be next, but what would you like to see after that?
Doesn’t matter still epic
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Could you a video on the Enclave?
Do seperate videos for each individual power armor in each game, it would make a good mini series type thing, the videos may not be long but they would be awsome if they r made by you
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Zhurong is the name of a warrior priestess from the chinese story romance of the 3 kingdoms. she is said to be a decentant of the god of fire
Makes me wonder if she's related to zoroastrianism.
@@wisdomleader85 probably not considering romance of the three kingdoms was written in the 17th century and its author probably would barely know what zoroastrianism is considering it was A: a foreign religion and B: a dead religion
@@mappingshaman5280 14th century actually, and Zoroastrianism never actually died. Even today, there's over a hundred thousand believers.
@@Vexin980 written 1522 so we were both off. Regardless by 1522 zorastrianism had been a minor religion for centuries, practically forgotten by the world outside of Iran.
@@mappingshaman5280 That information was wrong. It was published in the early 1320s. Yes that's what Google says, but Google is wrong about the weirdest things.
Begone Oxhorn, a new champion enters the ring. I am delighted to see your channel growing so quickly, you are my newest favorite fallout lore storyteller.
I mean Oxhorn is a well known Bethesda shill that was definitely on their payroll in the past. He also has a habit of striking smaller channels then him because he is an insecure incels. Yeah look at his past and his homophobic remarks. The bar is not that high in the Fallout lore community sadly.
But yes this channel is excellent. Nothing more to say on that front.
Out with the boring, in with the interesting.
Yes
I looked at his subscribers like 4 days ago and it was 17K now its 28K its pretty crazy aye
Wow, thank you!
I think its very important of them to reference stuff like Japanese internment camps in their story because as we've seen, its not hard for that stuff to happen again.
Its already happening with Immigrants rn hell the targeting of minorities by all police is basically same shit
@@jeambeam3173 take your politics elsewhere this is a gaming channel not debate club
@@jacobcook2276 Fallout is one of the most political pieces of gaming media ever
Makes me wonder what’s happening in those Chinese concentration camps
@@Shizelfizel1234 has been debunked
imagine if theres a fallout game where its set in asia and the there are factions that came from descendants of american soldiers who got stranded there
There was American troops occupying parts of China when the nukes flew so that would be cool to see
Basically the BoS from FO4 and NV if they also acted like Enclave. I'm saying they would continue slaughtering any Chinese they see because war never changes.
Consider the fact that the PRC loosed their missiles and plunged the entire world into nuclear fire purely because they started a fight they couldn't win and were on the verge of defeat by a superior enemy. It's the height of pettiness to wreck the entire planet like that because you're about to lose. It's like picking a fight with a bigger guy and then burning the bar down when he kicks your ass.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel China would tho lol
@@MK_ULTRA420 Which is why it's a good thing we've pulled out of that ridiculous Cold War era ABM Treaty. Maybe if we have a proper missile shield and they try something stupid like that IRL, they'll think twice about launching an ineffective first strike and just take the L in a conventional war.
I remember the first Chinese dude I encountered one day. He must’ve been in a plane crash or something and just fell from the sky and landed outside the Super Duper Mart. I went up to him and saw he was obviously dead. I felt really sad. Wished I’d known more about him. Also, he was a ghoul. He must’ve been even more lonely. I took his ammo and gun but that was it. Wish you could bury people in the games.
U can’t bury him but maybe u could of moved his body to a peaceful place so he could rest
Yeah, same here. It's sad, but at the same time, it's also interesting: a Chinese remnant soldier managed to get hold of a functioning aircraft, and most likely tried to fly to China, but ended up falling out of the craft and dying.
what a sap
dude chill
You could have. All you had to do was drag him to the Potomac and you could have given him a burial at sea.
Fine example of quality content being rewarded
Yup
YEP MAN NOW PLAY DAGGERFALL
If you could imainge: ghoulfied US Army remnants stranded in China 200 years later after the Great War
Yes
Kind of makes me want a Fallout: China
@@rynemcgriffin1752 Unfortunately China is basically a crater now.
@@Vexin980 do we know that for certain? I imagine parts of it like the US survived.
@@Fireclaws10 Word of God.
This channel is easily the best fallout lore channel. His voice is very nice to listen to
Oxhorn too.
@@CFC-xi8dz Bro I haven't played a fallout game in a couple years but I still watch Oxhorn before I go to bed sometimes. Like a soothing bedtime story about nuclear apocalypse.
Oxhorn would like to differ
This guy and oxhorn are the best
@@GhostyGhost7007 Yeah Oxhorn is the true Fallout Lore Master, but let’s say that Synonymous is Oxhorn’s apprentice. 😂
I still can't believe you're almost at 30k subscribers when you were at 1k over 3 weeks ago
The algorithm giveth, but also taketh away
You know what I think im going to hit the subscribe button
I think it’s because of the fallout shows that has increased peoples interest in fallout again.
Am i gonna watch this while playing Fallout 4? Absolutely
That what i alway do.. watching lore about a game while playing it
You should tho, there is a chinese submarine in the coast of Boston.
@@johnclement189 my boyfriend was telling me about it the other day
@@MWO1997 hope you've realized how cringe this was all this time later
One thing that makes me curious: If FO America hated china and communism so much, why was Chinatown allowed to exist?
Chinese food's pretty good, but it just doesn't feel the same when you get it in a generic restaurant from a bunch of white dudes
chinatowns is pretty much a foreign concept, it does not represents chinese politics, and even culture.
They were actually not unscathed as i remember in Fallout 4. Chinatown was burned down.
@@munanchoinc WHAT? Seriously?
@@gelyknife6975 according to a terminal, the Chinatown arches were burned down and inhabitants were forced into hiding similar to the nazis and the jews during ww2
The saddest story probably has to be Zao from the Yangtze in Fallout 4. He really regretted nuking Boston, but he had to follow orders. All he wants is to go home, but China is probably nothing more than a crater in Fallout.
Considering that we can actually see china in fallout 3 dlc mothership zeta, as a giant crater, highly doubt anyone are still alive, but i could be wrong. Also, for all we know, mothership zeta might not be even cannon
@@bunnitomoe3866 It is not
@@bunnitomoe3866 According to drafts of a game called Fallout Extreme, China has survived and there was an Imperial Faction that was threatening to nuke America and the Brotherhood of Steel is trying to stop them, and IRL, there is an underground city built under Beijing. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese had a similar system in every other major city and I bet if Obsidian had it their way, they would Retconn China being a crater in Mothership Zeta
He didn't have to follow orders, he chose to follow them.
@@smiley4995 Insurbordination will get you a court-martial. In the People's Republic of China there are three levels of military courts: military courts of the People's Liberation Army, military courts of military district-level units, and military courts of corps and military-level units.
A fallout dlc involving the Chinese would be sick. Seeing the whole event from their point of view would be interesting.
it would open the door for so many cool creature designs considering china’s fate. if i recall in fallout 2, the U.S. invasion campaign in china was a complete stomp due to the use of biological weapons, most likely the FEV virus. i think the americans were also heavily reliant on bombers while the chinese used nuclear submarines to launch short range missiles, so china was probably bombed far less
YEP MAN AND ALSO KAZAKHSTAN WHICH WAS ALREADY A DLC FOR MORROWIND
@@weenis2876MORROWIND HAD A DLC SET IN KAZAKHSTAN SO WHY NOT FALLOUT FOR CHINA
Cuz Bethesda has no talent left
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At 6:10 you question whether you're overthinking a skill book placement, but at the exact same moment I was amazed by the realization that I'd been IGNORING the placement of items such as these and the stories the level designers were trying to tell through them! Countless times I've picked up a skill book and thought "huh, neat" and just keep right on moving.
When I first read some of the names and entries at mama dolces (John Johnson) I thought they were just extremely over the top American names consistent with the lore. Only recently did the enclave quests and were told they were Chinese spies using these hilariously obvious names. Fallout 76 is very underrated and if anyone loves this series it is a must play
Sounds just like Yoyodyne in "The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension" where all of the aliens have the first name John and when checking the employee records they see that all of them were hired on the same day.
Never. I hate that shit
I'm a bit late, but I found your channel recently, and I must say, it is a great source of lore involving the Fallout universe. Thank you for being such a great narrator of this interesting timeline!
You're welcome! 😁👍
I swear, I have heard this guy's voice before, but I can't place it
He’s British
@@stevenx399 the single least accurate stereotype about British people. Most of us are completely incomprehensible, and the others barely speak the language
@@raresthornet we are perfectly comprehensible, as long as you are Audi from a similar part of Britain
@@lookihaveausernametoo4231 I understand pretty much all British accents because of the area I live in, to people who don't live in those areas some accents are next to impossible to understand though
@@raresthornet I can understand most accents full stop from how diverse they are near where I live it truly is a miracle. Or it would be if anyone could understand me
I love how fallout becomes a sort of mirror for the beginning of mankind in the ancient world. I try to play my characters like conquering generals
I think you missed one, one of the residents of Tenpenny tower claims he is the descendant of one of the Chinese Leaders. The resident is Irving Cheng if I recall correctly and he’s got a lot to say.
Also in the Pitt there is a building with a Chinese commando hat (the only one you can get in the game I think) and a bunch of Chinese assault rifles.
I was really hoping someone would provide more Chinese Remnants, thank you for this!
@@Synonymous101 your welcome bro
One question, would Irving Cheng count as a remnant or a descendant of Chinese remnants?
@@Synonymous101 well technically the Shi are descendants of the Chinese, not the actual Chinese government themselves. So if the Shi can be counted as Chinese remnants idk why Irving wouldn’t be.
@@LucyWest370 I wouldn't count the shi as remnants, that's why I only mentioned the crew from the wrecked sub, but the room in the pitt is unmisstakently a chinese spy safe house!
15:30 to me its honestly pretty interesting to think that the nuke you see in the Fallout 4 intro, the nuke that essentially killed your family along with your world, was fired by a crew you can help even going so far as to somewhat befriend the commander who literally gave the order to launch the missiles.
You're part of a military family, you would know that it wasn't the commander's choice. Of course you'd feel sympathetic to him. Nate and Nora absolutely would know what it'd feel like being seperated from your loved ones, (And in Nate's case, his home,) futhering their sympathy.
I definitely think it’s a nice little roleplay opportunity. You can either be the bitter angry vet/vet’s wife who wants revenge on the crew for basically ruining his life, or you can be the traumatized and overwhelmed vet/vet’s wife who realizes that at the end of the day, everyone has suffered from the Great War and for the most part was just a pawn in a larger game.
I love your overthinking of the placment of a chinese skill book. It really brings to light the curiosity and ambition you have towards the franchise and the lore involved.
Love the videos as well 👍
i thought the title said "Fallout Lore: Chinese Restaurants" lmao
Fallout Lore: Rice
I would watch that video
@Lucien Hicks lol if there was a chef from Guangzhou on that Chinese sub, we'd get at least 100 more recipes
Fallout 89
Liberty Prime called some Chinese Restaurants a while back. IceNJam knows all about it.
"Ghouls, both American and Chinese, completely indescernible from one another roam the camp together."
That is a very touching and uplifting display of egalitarianism and human brotherhood. Pity none of them are cogniscant of the irony in this state.
After months of watching lore videos and "can you beat using only" videos i found your channel today and every video ive learned something new from a series i have lived for years! Great work, keep it up
Glad to hear it!
I'd love to see a Fallout game set in China. So we can experience the destruction on the other side too & how they're coping up with it. BETHESDA......make it happen!!!!!
I'm pretty sure with China's megacities getting wiped out that they've been reduced to nomadic tribes of ghouls and cattle herders, with CCP remnants vying for power while the remaining US power armor troops continue the war efforts, slaughtering the few remaining Chinese people. If the East Coast BoS was willing to nuke the Institute for basically nothing, I don't see why U.S. power armor soldiers wouldn't be hunting Chinese for fun.
edit: I wonder what they call Yao Guais in China, if they even have them...also I'd love to see the rise of a nomadic horse rider culture taking over like the Mongols or the Huns.
They wouldn't be hunting CCP remnants "for fun". It'd be because their government nuked the US and likely killed all those troops' families along with wrecking the entire planet over starting a fight they couldn't at least lose at gracefully. I would be curious about a panda version of a yao guai, though.
that would likely never happen unfortunately.
Imagine the completely different enemies and technology
What Beth should do is make spin off games around the world. So fallout 1, 2, 3,4, 76, (and also 5, 6 ect if we get them) all in America and then have other games around the world and if they put lots of effort and look at what the fandom as come up with they can make a decent game
I would love to see a Fallout set in China, and have a few of the same "remanants" of American spies in parts of China.
Each time I'd came across remnants of chinese presence in the US, I can't help but think about the thousands US troops who were fighting on mainland China when the bombs dropped, did they all just died ? Did some live to build a "little america" like the Shi did, or even US army ghouls still fighting what's left of China's people to continue the fight after 200 years?
Also you forgot about the Chinese presence in Pittsburgh/ The Pitt ! But we don't learn much at all from theme besides that they were probably just another chinese spy cell hidden in the US
Would be super dope if we got content from Bethesda with the situation in China. Even dlc would have be dope like a successful trip back on the Yangtze-31 with captain zao. Slim chance but I guess what makes stories like these so interesting is it allows us to ponder on the potential stories playing out all over the fallout vers. 🤘🏼
Thank god theres an alternative to Oxhorn.
With Nth Apple inactive it is nice to have a new persons persons perspective.
Really cool you covered this instead of just people ignoring it because they think whole series is about China bad lol. Huge amount we do not know about when it comes to them in this different timeline aside from being communist, be cool to see a spinoff there to get some nuance.
China *is* bad though
Dude, as someone who just got Fallout 4 and has regain their crippling Fallout addiction, your videos are very entertaining to me
I don't think you can overthink anything in the Fallout world. Great channel❤
Love these fallout lore videos! Use the community tab to get more interaction and possibly post voting polls and such, your channel deserves many more subs!
Thanks for the suggestion! 😁
Well great, I found a new channel to eat away all my time. Seriously though, your fallout content is among the best on here. Your subdued reactions toward the lore and informative delivery are much appreciated.
Glad you enjoy it!
Yo yo yo it’s been a while, looks like you’re channel exploded, nice my man, like I said on a video a long time ago I’m glad I was immortalized in the comments section when you had less than 200 subs
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A name I remember well, you will be pleased to know that the lonesome road nail gun challenge will be ready shortly!
Been waiting for this, I may have watched other lore vids on this, but they're all 3+ years old. Good on you for reviving the lore!
Would be cool to have a mod with a story of chinese spy where you can play prewar and after the war as a ghoul.
In the fallout universe there's no such thing as overthinking.
Rewatching when “The odds were not on her favor”
Curious choice of words, pal. I wonder if it could be the reference I think it is
Your videos are always super well put together and I really respect the research and effort you put into it. I'd love to see a video from you on the history of Caesar and the legion
Almost 4,000 views in slightly less than an hour. For such good work, I very much feel this is an underwhelming amount
Keep it up, mate!
Thanks, will do!
Bro I’m so glad I got to witness your come-up
I love these fallout lore videos. I watch these at work while I drive and they are very good. Thank you for keeping me entertained !
I'm so glad I found this channel, specialy after having re-visited 3. On that note I played Broken steel for the first time and was wondering if you could do the video about all the changes on the DLC (how each area is affected and how those changes play out if you release the virus or not)
I am so happy to see this wonderful channel grow so fast, love what you make man keep up the amazing work
Love your videos, no one really does lore videos with topics like this so it’s awesome.
Interesting point about the Covert Ops skill books. Never really thought about it but that's a great idea. A Shi Lore video would be awesome, doesn't look like there's much out there right now.
Ghost people from Dead money deserve more content made about them. That would be my humble recommendation.
I like the tone of your videos. They are calm, serious but not boring. It feels more like a professional documentary than a lore video on TH-cam which is realy nice!
I'm just here to show my support. Great video, really well done
Would love to see something about the children of cathedral
Coming soon!
This channel is so unique. Thank you so much for it, keep it up!
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kinda poetic if you look at it that way.
Ghouls, both american and chinese. Roaming the wastes. Together.
implying mutual destruction of the nukes.
You're getting big quickly. You deserve it
Thank you!
It makes me happy to see your channel doing well with all these new subscribers in such a short amount of time. This is quality content, you deserve it all!
It's nice indepth (but not brain hurting) videos like this that keep me coming back.
Just finished midterms and can vibe and watch this video. I love them!
Congratulations man! Just got mine out the way too, feels like losing the weight of a cement bag off your back lol.
@@Wrecktown7247 Oh yeah man there is nothing better, knowing you don’t have anything to worry about
Those in San Francisco heard the explosions, but noticed no visible damage themselves
The world of fallout is absolutely amazing.
When this game was dreamt up in the 1990s, who thought we would be where we are today
considering that Bethesda bought the license, i'd say they saw the potential of the franchise. even though they had not truly unlocked it's potential to it's fullest.
Love your videos man, they are very good. Could you maybe do a video at some point on the lore about power armor?
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That is an amazing idea 💡!!! DEW IT!!!
@@mastermahogany3483 Deus Vult
I could look into it!
@@exodusblack9145 WE ARE SPEHSS MAHREENS, WE ARE BLOOD RAVENS!!! AND WE FIGHT IN THE NAME OF THE EMPRAH!!!!!
So when you said "...and he knew it." All that I could think of was the family guy skit where peter pretends to play baseball and is demoted down the leagues.
Wow you gained so many subscribers in just the last week. Congrats my guy!
Thanks!
That's cool in all but did you know by switching to geico can save you 15% off or more on car insurance?
Dear god, I read that in Preston’s voice
Damnnnn the deathclaw video really boosted your channel, i knew people would recognize your hard workk! i remember when you had only 300 subsribers! Good job im happy for you.
Wow, last I checked you had 2k subs, you deserve this channel growth! Love the videos 🧡
Cheers, I appreciate the kind words!
Fantastic video, keep up the great work!
You really deserved the recent amount of recognition you've gotten as of late!
Waking up and seeing a new video immediately made my day. Thank you for your efford.
Thanks for the consistently good content, keep up the good work👍 also I think a video on the “New Plague” would be pretty cool.
I'll check it out
Glad I check this channel after watching a Nerbit video who suggested you, this videos are amazing.
I’ve never played fallout but these videos are so interesting
You are missing out big time. Start with New Vegas best one
Very immersive narration. Well done
Another excellent video! It’s cool to see how much you’ve improved as an editor and writer as you release more content
America, China, Europe, Russia, Australia and the middle east: 💀
South America, Oceania and Africa: 🤨
I really like your videos: most fallout (and elder scrolls) lore videos have awkward teenagers with a poor vocabulary narrating them, making crazy speculations that lead nowhere. You have a good voice and say what there is to it.
Absolutely loved using the Chinese Assault Rifle in Fallout 3. The Operation Anchorage dlc was pretty sweet too with the dlc items
There really needs to be a "Fallout: Shanghai" type game. Bethesda are too Yankcentric unfortunately.
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I was lulled by those sweet, mellow tones until I heard "Nu Ca Lur." Nuclear sounds like New Clear. Keep up the good work. I really am coming to love your videos, even when you go over things I already knew.
I love these videos, they are well made and he's put an incredible amount of work into them. I still cringe everytime I hear him mispronounce "nuclear" lol, but I'm loving these lore deep dives.
I'm terrible for mispronouncing words
what's wrong with how he says nuclear? not mad just genuinely curious
The Think Tank being horrified of communism (the book chute in particular) is my favorite dialogue in all of fallout.
You do fallout lore and have a soothing voice, and you're so underrated too. Keep doing the do man!
This channel popped into my recommendations out of nowhere but solid gold content. The algorithm worked for once.
Seeing how half the weapons in the 3rd game were Chinese, it’s apparent that half the DC population were sleeper agents pre-war.
Turtledove was just a straight up concentration camp wtf
Wouldn't be the first time the US did deplorable shit like that to its own citizens
I like that the reason why the Yao guai aren't called bears is because the Chinese were the ones who named it, but then they put it on f4 where there were no Chinese remnants as far as I could tell
Just another lazy thing Bethesda did with no in game lore reason but the recognizable brands they already had.
I've always thought of parallels between the Chinese in the Fallout universe, and the Chinese in the World War Z, especially the Chinese submariners
Imagine a spin off Fallout game set in China. Would be interested to see whats it like over there before and after the war
idk would probably be just day to day life in china
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Love the videos, very happy to see your last video blowing up. Getting the recognition you deserve!
This is like Ancient Aliens but Fallout. I love it.
Love this video! I really wish the Remnants (particularly the Ghoulifed ones in Fallout 3) could have been like their own mini-faction with actual quests or something, perhaps disillusioned with their homeland, but still not too keen on Americans way of life.
I cant get enough fallout lore! Subscribed!
I really enjoy the videos man they are the perfect things to watch when I'm trying to sleep or when I want to learn some good fallout lore you really go into detail and I love it I hope you keep making more videos :)
Awesome, thank you!
@@Synonymous101 do you plan to make a video on the scorched if you havent already?
@@silence5123 I could look into it
Deadass thought this said “Chinese Restaurants”
😂😂😂
I gotta say, I watched another video on this subject today and although the bar was not set very high, your video knocks it out of the bark as my dog would say.