For those wondering what the meaning behind the canon insignia is: The gears represent their engineering knowledge, the sword is their will to defend themselves, the wings represent the uplifting hope that the acquisition of lost technology represents for mankind's salvation following the devastation of the Great War, and the circle represents the fraternal unity that makes the organization a true brotherhood.
@@jacoblewis9514 Once you sell them enough stuff they're supposed to regard you as an ally and let you roam the base, but they don't give you a key to the locked gate and they don't stop insulting you because the script never triggers. It's honestly funnier to imagine them as utterly blinded by their arrogance, but it's just Bugthesda.
actually it is! (kinda) the sentinel power armor creation club mod has the outcast paint job, and a bonus companion that doesn't take up a companion slot
If you notice in fo4, the BOS has color schemes similar to the Outcasts. This is possibly due to the fact that Maxson brought them back in and the east coast chapter returned to their original goal.
Its so funny to me that the outcasts are basically the brotherhood members that MAINTAINTED the original ideology and didn't empathies with the people of the Capital Wasteland
That kinda is the point, even Lyons says he changed ideas after The Pitt. Asher himself changed ideas and said that the BOS wouldn’t recognize him- not aware of the Lyon’s BOS and talking of the west- the outcast.
@@Stribog1337 how would they be now? People keep talking about how the BoS changed but the only thing that did change was their empathy in fallout 3, they are practically back to relative normal honestly if you throw the west chapter into the same situation the East is in fallout4 I’m pretty positive they would have the same out look but zero empathy not able to trust outsiders
@@Stribog1337 In fallout 1, even the original BoS helped other settlement if my memory serves me right, but to a degree. They then did helped the vault dweller dealing with super mutant after vault dweller gives them an evidence about super mutant
I killed outcasts cause their cowards and them making rude statements about me was even funnier before they died in one shot and that armor and loot was worth it
@@pignalio8583I do recall some their patrols occasionally fleeing for one reason or another. No idea what caused it, I figured it was some kind of NPC interaction thing like the ran into a Yao Gui or Deathclaw.
I'll always have an appreciation for the Outcasts. When my childhood self played FO3 for the first time, speaking with Casdin about the BOS and events that led up to FO3 was some of my first exposure to the larger FO universe/lore and I've been hooked ever since
I’ll never forget when protector casdin lost his life to an albino rad scorpion on my last play through. Effectively ruining our trade deal and friendship
Oof I remember those Albino Radscorpions they were the evilest creatures to ever walk in a Bethesda game. I can't even describe how many followers, quest givers, and favorite NPCs I watched die at the Hand's of the Albino scourge.
@@j.avance9031 I dont recall how nasty they were in F03 but if they're anything like they are now in a Tale of Two Wastelands... *shudders* I dread roaming the Countryside because of them.
It's because the broken steel DLC added in new stronger enemies and Bethesda forgot that they will kill NPCs. This was a problem in Oblivion as well when you reached higher levels. NPCs outside of cities would easily die to stronger enemies. Skyrim still had some issues but not as bad. If you took down dragons fast then you will be fine. They patched the vampire attacks out. Fallout 4 the merchants will just go down but not die. But they can be killed if you hit them, so be careful. Especially if you are using explosives. I found out because I used missiles and notice the doctor merchant died so I reloaded and used a gun and he survived. As the missile explosion had affected him and killed him. So I try not to hit the merchants now when I see them fighting enemies. Fallout 3 at later levels, you may lose all those traveling merchants to high level enemies, which sucks. Glad they changed it in Fallout 4 at least. It was just poor balancing by Bethesda. I didn't mention New Vegas since it wasn't made by them but NV mostly kept enemies in territories so it was never a problem in NV. Albino radscorpions, feral ghoul Reaver's and super mutant overlords all were damage sponges from broken steel so that we had tougher enemies to fight at higher levels. Bethesda just forgot the NPCs were vulnerable to them.
if you kill sibley without being detected he doesnt start a mutiny when the vault opens. i do that nearly every playthrough cause the outcasts are badass
Karma at its finest. I oddly feel like the Outcasts were more xenophobic and dismissive than any other chapter and because of that, it crippled their chances the most. Lyons succeeded through kindness, Maxson succeeded through compromise, there's probably a reason the Outcasts weren't the main focal point of 3 or even why they didn't try to battle the Enclave, despite their goals literally lining up with the main Brotherhood Chapter in DC.
It would've been dope if one of the main missions was to recruit the outcasts for the assault on the Memorial, I can see how the interests of the two groups would even align for that fight.
I always liked the Outcasts when I was a kid, even if they were pricks. Their armor paint and matching robots always fascinated me since I loved and still love Fallout 3's robots.
But in a sense, Lyons followed the Ideology of the Brotherhood, as Supermutants could be considered a result of technology which ran amok. Therefor finding and destroying the source of the supermutants is one of the duties of the brotherhood
Which is why the chapter did not split the moment the course change happened. It was after months and months of fruitless fighting and dying whilst ignoring every other objective they hold sacred. The Outcasts did not disagree with fighting mutants they disagree with Lyons 'going native' caring more about fighting the DC super mutant infestation than any anything else and getting good Brothers and Sisters killed for it even recruiting wastelanders into the faction just to make up the bodies he was throwing into the grinder. Honestly if you take a step back and look at the whole Lyons brotherhood they are a troubling case of an old mans obsession getting alot of people killed fighting for what sounds like a noble goal, when you know if they had stuck to their job of scouting sites around DC for valuable tech they would have found the source of the muties.
The split didn’t happen right away, but took a bit of time. After The Pitt they were all strained and on edge. The reprioritising of goals was the first step toward the split. The recruitment of the Pitt kids and other Wastelanders was another. But it was the focus on helping the civilians with Project Purity and other ventures that pushed Casdin over the edge.
@@RhulkFunnyMoments I can't say they're bad people, but they're definitely WAY dumber than they like to think the common Wastelander is. Especially if they actively ignored their duty and didn't help reclaim the memorial from the Enclave.
So they are literally Black Knights. Pretty cool concept. Though I find it a little hard to believe that NO ONE in an entire faction of former brotherhood of steel members had a single pip boy.
There's cut content where there was a holotape next to the dead Gary in the OA DLC location, where one outcast tried getting the pip-boy from him. I don't think it was ever explained what happened to the pip-boy. Maybe the video mentions it, I'm not sure.
@@MisterJohnDoe I thought they told them yourself I just can’t for the life of me remember what they actually said, granted I haven’t played 3 in almost a decade so memory might be wrong
@@benpage5088 Basically removing it forcibly broke it. The Pip-Boys are supposedly coded to your DNA and can’t be removed in FO3. I doubt that’s all versions, probably just the FO3 iteration because not being able to take it off doesn’t really make sense.
@@TheMelancholicWriter I mean disregarding the Vault Tec side, imagine it as a pre-war military tool. You strap it on, it jabs your arm, it meshes with your biometric signature, then it keeps track of basically everything for you. It keeps track of important dates, notes, mission info and parameters, vital signs; it can administer stimpacks directly into your bloodstream as well as alert you to damaging ambient ionizing radiation. Losing one of these would be a massive security risk - imagine you're killed in action and the enemy gets their hands on it? All your potentially classified data is there, your biometric data which might include security clearances is there, your contacts, possible info on experimental tech, etc etc is all there. If it were a military tool, or a tool designed by Vault Tec based off existing military tech, then it makes total sense as to why it would become inoperable unless voluntarily removed by the wearer; forcible removal would destroy it and everything on it which protects against theft/falling into enemy hands, it prevents misplacing of this highly sophisticated piece of equipment, it prevents mix-ups because until reset by the current owner it cannot be used even by different users who also own a pipboy. I imagine in a structured setting where it was originally implemented there would be harsh punishments for anyone caught removing their pipboy or worse losing one.
@kryuzaki9862 all of that makes sense...till you see how in fallout 4 he just picks it up and it auto syncs with him, but you still have a really good point
Timely! I was playing F3 last night fast-traveled with Charon the outcast base so I could cut through the building full of Super Mutants to get to another location. I had already gone through the whole 'Alaska' simulation, and knew the Super Mutant would be respawning in the building in front of the base entrance elevator ramp. What I didn't expect was three minigun toting Outcasts to be all agro and start blasting at me and Charon, as well as the Super Mutants. Charon died three times before I could get a handle on how to beat the situation. I just don't remember those Outcast guys being agro there before. Fun anyway.
If you compare the Brotherhood from Tactics with the Brotherhood under Lyons, they seem to be on similar wavelengths. Makes me wonder if, despite their words to the contrary, the East Coast Brotherhood did in fact make contact with their Midwest cousins and were inspired by them.
In fallout 4 your learn that Elder Maxson re-integrated the outcasts back into the brotherhood and that they established contact with the midwestern bos !
@@whateverbro6818 Maxon sent expeditions all over the eastern US as to learn what was going in in these regions. That's how they ended up learning about the institute and the mutant problem in the Boston area.
Makes me sad that Bethesda considers fallout tactics not Canon. Undoubtedly the Midwestern chapter was the strongest chapter. Simply because of their open mindedness and versatility. Willing to recruit any one who was disciplined enough to obey orders. From tribals to ghouls, even smart super mutants. Not only giving them numerical strength, but also unique soldiers. Imagine a Midwestern paladin alongside a minigun toting super mutant annihilating everything in their path. That is a sight to behold.
I still remember being a low level in fallout, when I just started. And I was getting my arsse handed too me by some creature in the wasteland, then then these guys walked by, and saved me. Then left with no explanation
What is kind of ironic is that if they had kept to their original objective, and looked for lost tech and data-bases. They likely would have found information on the local vaults sooner than they did. While the Super Mutants were a large force and a considerable threat, the Elder could have appeased both sides by creating a Task Force that would handle the search for technology. While the bulk of their forces would act in support should there be a large mutant presence in the area.
Considering that there is a old vault-tec building in D.C., where you can find in the quest from old Lady Agnes Informations about the whereabouts of other vaults, it could be
Honestly, it felt like these guys were thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been an entire game built around this concept, instead it was a throwaway plotline.
Cut content, the main quest was supposed to feature a section requiring interaction between Lyons brotherhood and the Outcasts. Which was to have multiple drastic possible outcomes that were evidently far too much effort to do for Beth.
@@MoonlitMike Most likely what happened. The Skyrim civil war had to be massively toned down because consoles of the time simply couldnt handle it as well. Ulfric would constantly be on the ground fighting with his troops, giants would fight with stormcloaks, trebuchets assualting towns, and a unique city conquest where opposing forces could overthrow occupied cities if the dragonborn didnt arrive fast enough. Instead we have small skirmishes in each town while the whole plotline ignores massive plot points such as the Emperor's assassination or being able to show Ulfric the thalmor dossier on him.
It's nice to see that the fallout factions aren't all of one mind and that schisms can (and do) happen. I do wish that in F:NV those whose unhappy with elder Nolan McNamara decided to go outside and form their own base
@@Icspiders247 Oh, I have. But again, that to me looks more like Elijah going full "I can control this!" and was going it for his own sake/curiosity while the BoS knights that were there tried to keep him alive and keep Helios under BoS control.
Small point, but I’m sure the brotherhood was aware the mutants in DC were not from California due to the visible differences alone. Which IMO makes the situation that much more concerning and could actually give some credence to Elder Lyons change of goals.
I believe Lyons and The LW plus the Lyon's Pride etc deserved more mention In FO4... A wonderful work as always I love seeing people making such amazing detailed and explanational Lore Videos because the game needs that
if the theories where true then the FO4 BOS are purposely not giving Lyon's history any attention since according to some theories, the Outcasts assassinated Lyons and used Maxon to retake Lyon's BOS.
I understand the outcasts reason for wanting to follow the intended course but the supermutants would directly effect their ability to hunt for more tech. If you have the mutants out there in such heavy numbers you risk being ambushed anywhere you go in the DC ruins
I really wish the outcasts had a bigger role in the wastes. It'd be neat to perhaps have a questline where you could completely bring together the Brotherhood and Outcasts, or perhaps further intensify relations. Would disregard what would be future events [lore] in F4, but it'd make Fallout 3 that much more enjoyable.
With the Fort Independence mod that expands the sub-faction of the Outcasts I roleplayed that my lone wanderer agreed with them, worked for them, was made a initiate, and became as mission objective oriented as them. My character was to the Outcasts what Sarah Lyons was to the Brotherhood. Since my character met the Outcasts before the Brotherhood, I roleplayed into that further by acting aloof towards many of the Brotherhood members for their foolish savior complexes. Pretty fun roleplay I must say. You go from wanting to save the wasteland to a technology obsessed isolationist that will gun down scavengers and raiders for scraps of energy weapons or power armor. You also start buying and trading for every piece of advanced tech you find. It makes scavving and trading far more interesting than you'd think.
Lyons brotherhood had more technology, firepower, manpower, training, skills, influence and stability than the outcast ever have. And that’s when stopping super mutants was top priority and technology second. It really shows how time has changed and the brotherhood have to adapt just like new vegas tells us. I believe the west would have agreed with Lyons to some degree if they saw the numbers ( properly ) and how there’s a super mutant factory. We know that lot of the elders felt like that in the west. Interplay wanted to change Brotherhood elements as seen in fallout tactics ( which is reference a lot in fallout 4 ) and fallout brotherhood of steel ( which also reference a lot ). Another thing fallout bible isn’t entirely non cannon though.
Man the shoulders of outcasts always make me think how much it would fuck you up of the charged at you and shoulder checked you in the face/jaw with those heavy, scratched, metal pauldrans 🤪🥲
What would’ve been cool is if BGS had designed a metro system under the Citadel. The Pentagon has its own metro system, and having a Brotherhood of Steel mission to clear the tunnels would’ve been neat.
I like how elder Maxon tried to bring back the old bos but instead of his troops getting the institutes technology they opted for nukes with liberty prime
The institute technology is technology the BOS doesn't want people using. It's creating synths and FEV. BOS ddoes destroy tech to keep it out of people's hands, so it makes sense to destroy the base so that nobody else can use it. This falls in line with BOS goals.
This is a weird request but I’d love to hear lore about fallout’s soda companies, Nuka cola is everywhere and has so many offshoots, and Sunset sarsaparilla’s star caps were an intriguing collectible
Always was fond of the Brotherhood Outcasts and their attitudes is actually pretty rational in the context of what is going on in the wasteland at that time.
honestly the number of times I've heard "the best explanation is in the non-canon fallout bible" is so insane that im generally baffled that they made that book non cannon
See, the Outcasts complain that the BoS had stopped gathering tech. Except they didn't. Even under Lyons, they were still gathering tech they found. They just ALSO focused on helping people and stopping the Supermutant threat. Which seems like a lot more critical task. If the mutants aren't stopped, then it doesn't matter if they're gathering tech, there will be no humanity left to save.
The outcasts were an interesting group because they were essentially considered one of the bad guys in Fallout 3 since they fought against the BoS, but they are literally following the ways of the brotherhood from Fallout 1 and 2 where they could be considered one of the good guys depending on how you play.
The lore from Fallout all the way thru to Fallout 4, is absolutely huge. There is SO much stuff that just gets overlooked if you don’t pay close attention. I need to reply them all... especially 3 tho, I hardly remember the story.
Let's start a debate The "normal" brotherhood of steel should've been the outcasts. The Current Outcast brotherhood stands for everything that the BoS from Fallout 1/2 stood. The BoS in 3 accept and willingly protect wastelanders. The original didn't. They only accepted the Vault Dweller because of desparation. I see why being a Vault dweller will maybe increase your chance of joining the BoS but hey, 1% is still a 100th.
That is what's happening with the game anyway. Lyons adapted his goals to help the people in Washington D.C and these soldiers stuck in the past abandoned to start their own chapter of what the BoS should've been.
I played fallout 3 when i was like 15ish and I remember having such a black and white understanding of the outcasts, I knew it was deeper as i got older and played 4 and new vegas but it was nice to hear the full story.
I love the concept of the Outcasts, and even more so love their armor paint jobs! Thanks to the FO4 Creation Club content, I now always have my companions in Outcast Power Armor in both 3 and 4
Honestly a fallout game with rad spiders instead of rad scorpions would be pretty cool. Their both of the arachnid family, quite possible spiders get benefits similar to scorpions when the bombs fell and FEV altered their DNA. What’d be crazy is not only the venom you could harvest from their fangs in possibly some spears or crossbows, but also their webs. Think about it: the webbing from spiders mutated on the scale of rad scorpions could quite possibly have webs as strong as steel. They’d have to be to hold up spiders that big and honestly could play into the game as a resource for weapons and armor crafting.
Of interesting note, has anybody else noticed that after the integration of the Outcasts into the newly reformed BoS that the Brotherhood took on their black and red color scheme? I just realized that, maybe as a tribute to their loyalty to the cause, as Lyons was technically a radical. As a kid I thought the Outcasts were dickhead traitors, but now as an adult it actually all makes perfect sense.
No, because i noticed that my choices didnt mean sh*t. I destroyed the Citadel and the Outcasts in Fallout 3. Fallout 4 comes along, OH YEA THE BOS IN THEIR MASSIVE AIRSHIP. Straight tells me my decisions were ignored by ****s like Emil.
Isn't it ironic that the outcasts refer to Knights and Paladins as "Defender" and "Protector" when they left to avoid defending and protecting those they deemed unworthy?
I wish the Entirety of BOS would start acting like Lyons. Maxon is kinda going there a little. They go after the institute which are causing harm to people by kidnapping people or letting super mutant loose. And they are pretty nice to the people of the commonwealth compared to the outcasts who are very rude and condescending towards people. Maxon even let’s our character join something the outcasts and most other BoS don’t seems to do. They just need to find a good balance between being protectors and doing their own thing.
So outcasts left because they didn`t want to secure the area (Washington and outskirts) with technology in it? Super mutants seem like big enough threat to attempts to find tech anywhere. I understand that they REALLY want that old tech, but super mutants already managed to kill some amount of BOS. Going out of relatively well defended area with smaller group just so they can say "I am actually doing what BOS people supposed to do" seems short-sighted. Yes, they have that fort and patrol some other areas, but they don`t have people to secure them. So that tech can fall into anyone`s hands. So they splintered basically because they wanted to stroke their own ego. And no recruiting is just plain stupid. All of them are going to die at some point, so there just going to be some pointless robots left. Very helpful in a mission to secure tech and show those people in the citadel that removing relatively big threat to your operations is not necessary for your continued survival and success of said mission. I think some outcast says elder "gone native" or something similar. No, he isn`t (at least not at the start). He tries to find source of and remove actual threat, while outcasts walk around and stare at tech that they can`t get. And act like assholes to natives they need to get to tech. Then plot happens, threats and okay-ish leaders are removed, so BOS and outcasts reunite to build that dumb blimp and go to somewhat annoy people in the commonwealth. Guess someone at BGS remembered that outcasts were a thing and gave them a conclusion. Undeserved, but they are gone anyway. I played FO3 a long time ago and my memory isn`t good, so I don`t remember much about outcasts and using my understanding of this video as a base.
The Outcasts initially formed to branch off from the direction Elder Lyons was taking the Brotherhood in, but now that the Brotherhood more closely resembles the Outcast's opinion on the wasteland, I wonder if the Outcasts can be reformed again one day under the leadership of someone wanting to break away from the more antagonistic direction of current-day Brotherhood. Perhaps this new group of Outcasts would then more resemble Lyons's vision of the Brotherhood. If anyone would start this approach to the Outcasts, I would think I would want it to be Maximus from the Fallout show.
@@SorceressWitch my man above is trying to say he wants Maximus to create an "Outcast" like group completely opposite from what the Outcasts was in Lyons time. Maximus has received knighthood, respect from others, and maybe power and slightly disillusioned with the Brotherhood in the end of the Fallout show. The man is not stating that the Outcast still exist but he's trying to say he wants Maximus to create his own small Splinter Group.
With the mod Fallout Wanderer's Edition, which is a very good overhaul for F3, many raider bands had "Fallen Brothers" with them which were basically outcasts who deserted and wen't mercenary for the Raiders. What was cool is that the mod tweaked with the armor statistics and if you fought with an enemy in Power Armor with anything less than 5.56 full auto ammo and/or your weapon skill was below circa 60, the fight with a "Fallen Brother" was always won (if at all) by the skin of your teeth. This made encounters with raiders very interesting, especially in the first half of the game because every group of raiders could have at least one "Fallen Brother" in it. I remember that when I faced one of them in Wheaton's Armory , I had to use all of my mines and grenades to get the dude to a near death state and even then it took a considerable amount of .44 and 5.56 ammo to bring him down. I had a ton of fun with these fights, they were really exciting.
for some reason when i beat the dlc and opened the vault door,they all decided to kill eachother and tried to kill me lol idk if it was a bug or whatnot but i took what i could get and got the fuck outta there
I understand you’re trying to stick to things that are strictly canon but I feel like an episode on the Midwestern brotherhood of steel would be greatly appreciated. They’re not often talked about and I feel like it would be a great opportunity to shed some light on an underrated faction. Great video!
Man it was funny when me my brother and dad played falliut 3 the first time. I was enclave all the way. Dad was brotherhood and brother was the outcasts. Our rivalry carried into warhammer sessions.
May not have to even make a flag necessarily could refashion one or just remake it. Got the base materials and after all some old school thread and needle is an old reliable way to make clothes before the modern looms alongside sewing machines (which are probably inoperable or mostly ruined) to make clothing and other cloth products rapidly.
Incredible time of this video, I have recently started a new run on my ps3 fallout 3, and was heading for fort independent just after running into the Outcasts and was like, damn, forgot about them. So as I said great timing.
I have a small question about the creation club content Actually, is all the lore it brings in the missions cannon? Like the small group of outcast painted sentinel power armor is a thing now and did arc jet systems make a captain cosmos power armor?
The Outcasts. Cool armour, cool colour scheme, cool titles. But a bunch of self entitled jerks who treat outsiders like they are inferior even though they were helped by the Lone Wanderer 😂
You mean like the Brotherhood? The Outcasts are the Brotherhood. The actual Brotherhood of steel. Not the ridiculous fanfiction Todd has written about them.
Can you talk about or investigate the data entry inside the institute that mentions how synths are addicted to fancy lad cakes ? It is in the same terminal I believe that mentions the mayor being a synth.
You would think that the ones breaking from the goals of the BoS, would have been the ones with the changed paintjob. Never got to interact with them in Fo3. Failed to follow into the base when asked to, and the door got labeld in red.
I actually ran into them immediately upon leaving vault 101 my first playthrough of FO3 (or any fallout game for that matter). I tried attacking them because i thought they were the typical characters in the world
Oh look, a new video. Sweet! Hey Syn, would you consider doing a challenge run for any of the FO-games? Game and challenge is up to you, as far as I'm concerned. Anything you'd do a voiceover and playthrough for would be (and has been) absolutely golden. Edit: and before anyone says that everything has been done already .. why yes, everything has been done; but not by this smooth-voiced son of a gun. Take care fellow wastelanders
They could do the challenge run where you get 1 strength and have to carry a wood chipper the entire playthrough with a mod that instantly kills you when you become over cumbered
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For those wondering what the meaning behind the canon insignia is: The gears represent their engineering knowledge, the sword is their will to defend themselves, the wings represent the uplifting hope that the acquisition of lost technology represents for mankind's salvation following the devastation of the Great War, and the circle represents the fraternal unity that makes the organization a true brotherhood.
Based.
Could you do a video on the Mark 2 stealth suit
@@morju2A I'll add it to the list! 😁👍
@@Synonymous101 thanks
@@Synonymous101 I mean. If you're gonna do OWB content. You may as well throw in the K9000 Cyberdog Gun.
"Hey local, shouldn't you be banging together rocks or something?"
Still hurts...
Another year later and it still hits like a truck
I love how they will never warm up to you even after you sell a bunch of tech to them and are well equipped yourself
"I dunno, KNIGHT, shouldn't you be licking some old man's boots?"
@@jacoblewis9514 Once you sell them enough stuff they're supposed to regard you as an ally and let you roam the base, but they don't give you a key to the locked gate and they don't stop insulting you because the script never triggers. It's honestly funnier to imagine them as utterly blinded by their arrogance, but it's just Bugthesda.
The paint job they had on their power armor was so badass. I wish that paint job would be available in FO4
Mods amigo
it kinda just looks like red paint smeared to me ngl
actually it is! (kinda) the sentinel power armor creation club mod has the outcast paint job, and a bonus companion that doesn't take up a companion slot
@@Simply_better22343 cause it is lol
Just don’t side with the BOS bc they might not be too happy about that paint job
If you notice in fo4, the BOS has color schemes similar to the Outcasts. This is possibly due to the fact that Maxson brought them back in and the east coast chapter returned to their original goal.
Could very well be the case, or just more Bethesda shenanigans.
@@elic1356 - oh I see these look a bit like the outcasts!
- the who?
~the end
@@villings "The outcasts? What outcasts? What are you mumbling about general?
Get out of here, another settlement needs your help!"
This is canon. Outcasts are the real brotherhood.
@@itzybitzyspyder haha "canon"
like hodd toward cares..
Its so funny to me that the outcasts are basically the brotherhood members that MAINTAINTED the original ideology and didn't empathies with the people of the Capital Wasteland
That kinda is the point, even Lyons says he changed ideas after The Pitt.
Asher himself changed ideas and said that the BOS wouldn’t recognize him- not aware of the Lyon’s BOS and talking of the west- the outcast.
Fanatics and extremists I guess.
@@adrianaslund8605 More like the true BOS'ers, before Bethesda took over and changed the brotherhood
@@Stribog1337 how would they be now? People keep talking about how the BoS changed but the only thing that did change was their empathy in fallout 3, they are practically back to relative normal honestly if you throw the west chapter into the same situation the East is in fallout4 I’m pretty positive they would have the same out look but zero empathy not able to trust outsiders
@@Stribog1337 In fallout 1, even the original BoS helped other settlement if my memory serves me right, but to a degree. They then did helped the vault dweller dealing with super mutant after vault dweller gives them an evidence about super mutant
I remember following Outcast patrols in 3. Few could stand against them and no matter who won the skirmishes I came out with a bunch of loot.
Same i would stalk them to either loot after the fight or will try to hidden snipe them for the loot since the patrols respawn randomly.
I killed outcasts cause their cowards and them making rude statements about me was even funnier before they died in one shot and that armor and loot was worth it
@spookieboogi6161 how are they cowards??
@@pignalio8583I do recall some their patrols occasionally fleeing for one reason or another. No idea what caused it, I figured it was some kind of NPC interaction thing like the ran into a Yao Gui or Deathclaw.
Same
I'll always have an appreciation for the Outcasts. When my childhood self played FO3 for the first time, speaking with Casdin about the BOS and events that led up to FO3 was some of my first exposure to the larger FO universe/lore and I've been hooked ever since
Good to know, The BOS amd the Outcasts are badass
I’ll never forget when protector casdin lost his life to an albino rad scorpion on my last play through. Effectively ruining our trade deal and friendship
Oof I remember those Albino Radscorpions they were the evilest creatures to ever walk in a Bethesda game. I can't even describe how many followers, quest givers, and favorite NPCs I watched die at the Hand's of the Albino scourge.
@@j.avance9031 I dont recall how nasty they were in F03 but if they're anything like they are now in a Tale of Two Wastelands... *shudders* I dread roaming the Countryside because of them.
@@j.avance9031 And thus Bethesada remembered and added vampire raids on towns in Skyrim.
I'll never forget when Protector Casdin took Firelance shot to the head and I took his armor.
It's because the broken steel DLC added in new stronger enemies and Bethesda forgot that they will kill NPCs. This was a problem in Oblivion as well when you reached higher levels. NPCs outside of cities would easily die to stronger enemies.
Skyrim still had some issues but not as bad. If you took down dragons fast then you will be fine. They patched the vampire attacks out.
Fallout 4 the merchants will just go down but not die. But they can be killed if you hit them, so be careful. Especially if you are using explosives. I found out because I used missiles and notice the doctor merchant died so I reloaded and used a gun and he survived. As the missile explosion had affected him and killed him. So I try not to hit the merchants now when I see them fighting enemies.
Fallout 3 at later levels, you may lose all those traveling merchants to high level enemies, which sucks. Glad they changed it in Fallout 4 at least.
It was just poor balancing by Bethesda. I didn't mention New Vegas since it wasn't made by them but NV mostly kept enemies in territories so it was never a problem in NV.
Albino radscorpions, feral ghoul Reaver's and super mutant overlords all were damage sponges from broken steel so that we had tougher enemies to fight at higher levels. Bethesda just forgot the NPCs were vulnerable to them.
if you kill sibley without being detected he doesnt start a mutiny when the vault opens. i do that nearly every playthrough cause the outcasts are badass
Wait really? Before or after the sim
@@sgtmuffinbadger6147 before, you have to be undetected though.
Based
IDK the brotherhood ain't that different from a raider gang if you ask me
@@todd6498 Raiders with lasers and Sweet armor
funny thing is, despite the Outcast being more focused on gathering Tech, it's Lyon's BOS that ended up acquiring more tech in the end of FO3 🤣
No pain. No gain
It's easier to focus on your goals when you only have 60 percent of the wasteland trying to kill you instead of 90 percent of it
Outcasts rejoined the BOS, so they don't exist anymore.
Karma at its finest. I oddly feel like the Outcasts were more xenophobic and dismissive than any other chapter and because of that, it crippled their chances the most. Lyons succeeded through kindness, Maxson succeeded through compromise, there's probably a reason the Outcasts weren't the main focal point of 3 or even why they didn't try to battle the Enclave, despite their goals literally lining up with the main Brotherhood Chapter in DC.
The Outcasts are honestly a pretty interesting subfaction of the Brotherhood, I wish Bethesda fleshed them out more in Fallout 3.
It would've been dope if one of the main missions was to recruit the outcasts for the assault on the Memorial, I can see how the interests of the two groups would even align for that fight.
I always liked the Outcasts when I was a kid, even if they were pricks. Their armor paint and matching robots always fascinated me since I loved and still love Fallout 3's robots.
But in a sense, Lyons followed the Ideology of the Brotherhood, as Supermutants could be considered a result of technology which ran amok. Therefor finding and destroying the source of the supermutants is one of the duties of the brotherhood
Which is why the chapter did not split the moment the course change happened. It was after months and months of fruitless fighting and dying whilst ignoring every other objective they hold sacred. The Outcasts did not disagree with fighting mutants they disagree with Lyons 'going native' caring more about fighting the DC super mutant infestation than any anything else and getting good Brothers and Sisters killed for it even recruiting wastelanders into the faction just to make up the bodies he was throwing into the grinder.
Honestly if you take a step back and look at the whole Lyons brotherhood they are a troubling case of an old mans obsession getting alot of people killed fighting for what sounds like a noble goal, when you know if they had stuck to their job of scouting sites around DC for valuable tech they would have found the source of the muties.
The split didn’t happen right away, but took a bit of time. After The Pitt they were all strained and on edge. The reprioritising of goals was the first step toward the split. The recruitment of the Pitt kids and other Wastelanders was another. But it was the focus on helping the civilians with Project Purity and other ventures that pushed Casdin over the edge.
A thing he didn't mention in the video is that Lyons helped people and the Outcasts didn't
@@pracitusthe outcasts are bad people lol
@@RhulkFunnyMoments I can't say they're bad people, but they're definitely WAY dumber than they like to think the common Wastelander is. Especially if they actively ignored their duty and didn't help reclaim the memorial from the Enclave.
So they are literally Black Knights. Pretty cool concept.
Though I find it a little hard to believe that NO ONE in an entire faction of former brotherhood of steel members had a single pip boy.
There's cut content where there was a holotape next to the dead Gary in the OA DLC location, where one outcast tried getting the pip-boy from him. I don't think it was ever explained what happened to the pip-boy.
Maybe the video mentions it, I'm not sure.
@@MisterJohnDoe I thought they told them yourself I just can’t for the life of me remember what they actually said, granted I haven’t played 3 in almost a decade so memory might be wrong
@@benpage5088 Basically removing it forcibly broke it. The Pip-Boys are supposedly coded to your DNA and can’t be removed in FO3. I doubt that’s all versions, probably just the FO3 iteration because not being able to take it off doesn’t really make sense.
@@TheMelancholicWriter I mean disregarding the Vault Tec side, imagine it as a pre-war military tool. You strap it on, it jabs your arm, it meshes with your biometric signature, then it keeps track of basically everything for you. It keeps track of important dates, notes, mission info and parameters, vital signs; it can administer stimpacks directly into your bloodstream as well as alert you to damaging ambient ionizing radiation.
Losing one of these would be a massive security risk - imagine you're killed in action and the enemy gets their hands on it? All your potentially classified data is there, your biometric data which might include security clearances is there, your contacts, possible info on experimental tech, etc etc is all there.
If it were a military tool, or a tool designed by Vault Tec based off existing military tech, then it makes total sense as to why it would become inoperable unless voluntarily removed by the wearer; forcible removal would destroy it and everything on it which protects against theft/falling into enemy hands, it prevents misplacing of this highly sophisticated piece of equipment, it prevents mix-ups because until reset by the current owner it cannot be used even by different users who also own a pipboy. I imagine in a structured setting where it was originally implemented there would be harsh punishments for anyone caught removing their pipboy or worse losing one.
@kryuzaki9862 all of that makes sense...till you see how in fallout 4 he just picks it up and it auto syncs with him, but you still have a really good point
Timely! I was playing F3 last night fast-traveled with Charon the outcast base so I could cut through the building full of Super Mutants to get to another location. I had already gone through the whole 'Alaska' simulation, and knew the Super Mutant would be respawning in the building in front of the base entrance elevator ramp. What I didn't expect was three minigun toting Outcasts to be all agro and start blasting at me and Charon, as well as the Super Mutants. Charon died three times before I could get a handle on how to beat the situation. I just don't remember those Outcast guys being agro there before. Fun anyway.
They were Agro because you had Charon with you I had the same problem
@@timmoss1399 Ah! Ok. They DID attack him first. Makes sense.
If you compare the Brotherhood from Tactics with the Brotherhood under Lyons, they seem to be on similar wavelengths. Makes me wonder if, despite their words to the contrary, the East Coast Brotherhood did in fact make contact with their Midwest cousins and were inspired by them.
In fallout 4 your learn that Elder Maxson re-integrated the outcasts back into the brotherhood and that they established contact with the midwestern bos !
@@sylvananas7923 I knew that he reintegrated the outcasts back to brotherhood proper, but I never knew the latter
@@whateverbro6818 Maxon sent expeditions all over the eastern US as to learn what was going in in these regions.
That's how they ended up learning about the institute and the mutant problem in the Boston area.
Makes me sad that Bethesda considers fallout tactics not Canon.
Undoubtedly the Midwestern chapter was the strongest chapter. Simply because of their open mindedness and versatility. Willing to recruit any one who was disciplined enough to obey orders. From tribals to ghouls, even smart super mutants. Not only giving them numerical strength, but also unique soldiers.
Imagine a Midwestern paladin alongside a minigun toting super mutant annihilating everything in their path. That is a sight to behold.
@@dekaron12 that kinda sounds like Jacob (BOS Knight) and Marcus (Supermutant), you can meet Marcus in F2 and FNV.
I still remember being a low level in fallout, when I just started. And I was getting my arsse handed too me by some creature in the wasteland, then then these guys walked by, and saved me. Then left with no explanation
But while they didn't explain, they did talk shit about you as they walked away
Walks by
Kills enemies
Refuses to elaborate and walk away
What creature was it a death claw
They refused to elaborate further and left
The Outcast saved me a fortune at early levels,thanks to the bug where you get the odd Enclave spawning before you unlock them.
What is kind of ironic is that if they had kept to their original objective, and looked for lost tech and data-bases. They likely would have found information on the local vaults sooner than they did. While the Super Mutants were a large force and a considerable threat, the Elder could have appeased both sides by creating a Task Force that would handle the search for technology. While the bulk of their forces would act in support should there be a large mutant presence in the area.
Considering that there is a old vault-tec building in D.C., where you can find in the quest from old Lady Agnes Informations about the whereabouts of other vaults, it could be
Honestly, it felt like these guys were thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been an entire game built around this concept, instead it was a throwaway plotline.
Cut content, the main quest was supposed to feature a section requiring interaction between Lyons brotherhood and the Outcasts. Which was to have multiple drastic possible outcomes that were evidently far too much effort to do for Beth.
@@SolusLupi or not enough soace for the SP3.Xbox360 era of consoles.
@@drivanradosivic1357 maybr
@@MoonlitMike Most likely what happened. The Skyrim civil war had to be massively toned down because consoles of the time simply couldnt handle it as well.
Ulfric would constantly be on the ground fighting with his troops, giants would fight with stormcloaks, trebuchets assualting towns, and a unique city conquest where opposing forces could overthrow occupied cities if the dragonborn didnt arrive fast enough.
Instead we have small skirmishes in each town while the whole plotline ignores massive plot points such as the Emperor's assassination or being able to show Ulfric the thalmor dossier on him.
@@superbrainz2357 I know all of this I'm a bigger skyrim fan then you ik everything about it I've read every book in the game. Imma geek
It's nice to see that the fallout factions aren't all of one mind and that schisms can (and do) happen. I do wish that in F:NV those whose unhappy with elder Nolan McNamara decided to go outside and form their own base
It makes sense though, the enire mojave chapter is already weak, if they split their numbers they probably would just fail and die out
Well they did have the falling out with Elijah and his allies.
@@Icspiders247 Ellijah struck me more of a lone wolf, rather than "Im gonna form my own branch" kind of guy
@@Mrkabrat So I take it you never made it to Helios 1?
@@Icspiders247 Oh, I have. But again, that to me looks more like Elijah going full "I can control this!" and was going it for his own sake/curiosity while the BoS knights that were there tried to keep him alive and keep Helios under BoS control.
The Outcasts are literally my favorite faction from F3
It sucks there was so little done with them, but I love their blind technological fanaticism
Because the outcasts are the Brotherhood. Not whatever fanfiction Todd has written. What a joke.
@@requiemagent3014 truth
@@requiemagent3014 Lyons brotherhood are still alright, ya'll just being harsh
@@EZOnTheEyes No we aren't. We are lore accurate and respecting this franchise. Something Todd has given up on a long time ago
@@requiemagent3014 Todd doesnt write the games
Small point, but I’m sure the brotherhood was aware the mutants in DC were not from California due to the visible differences alone. Which IMO makes the situation that much more concerning and could actually give some credence to Elder Lyons change of goals.
I believe Lyons and The LW plus the Lyon's Pride etc deserved more mention In FO4...
A wonderful work as always
I love seeing people making such amazing detailed and explanational Lore Videos because the game needs that
if the theories where true then the FO4 BOS are purposely not giving Lyon's history any attention since according to some theories, the Outcasts assassinated Lyons and used Maxon to retake Lyon's BOS.
@@f.b.l.9813 maybe
Love the channel so much synonymous thank you for making these
"I'll put go put this in storage immediately" equips enclave armor the player just turned in
I understand the outcasts reason for wanting to follow the intended course but the supermutants would directly effect their ability to hunt for more tech. If you have the mutants out there in such heavy numbers you risk being ambushed anywhere you go in the DC ruins
I really wish the outcasts had a bigger role in the wastes. It'd be neat to perhaps have a questline where you could completely bring together the Brotherhood and Outcasts, or perhaps further intensify relations.
Would disregard what would be future events [lore] in F4, but it'd make Fallout 3 that much more enjoyable.
With the Fort Independence mod that expands the sub-faction of the Outcasts I roleplayed that my lone wanderer agreed with them, worked for them, was made a initiate, and became as mission objective oriented as them. My character was to the Outcasts what Sarah Lyons was to the Brotherhood. Since my character met the Outcasts before the Brotherhood, I roleplayed into that further by acting aloof towards many of the Brotherhood members for their foolish savior complexes. Pretty fun roleplay I must say. You go from wanting to save the wasteland to a technology obsessed isolationist that will gun down scavengers and raiders for scraps of energy weapons or power armor. You also start buying and trading for every piece of advanced tech you find. It makes scavving and trading far more interesting than you'd think.
Lyons brotherhood had more technology, firepower, manpower, training, skills, influence and stability than the outcast ever have. And that’s when stopping super mutants was top priority and technology second. It really shows how time has changed and the brotherhood have to adapt just like new vegas tells us.
I believe the west would have agreed with Lyons to some degree if they saw the numbers ( properly ) and how there’s a super mutant factory.
We know that lot of the elders felt like that in the west. Interplay wanted to change Brotherhood elements as seen in fallout tactics ( which is reference a lot in fallout 4 ) and fallout brotherhood of steel ( which also reference a lot ).
Another thing fallout bible isn’t entirely non cannon though.
I have to say I’ve been playing fallout 3 since I was in junior high and I still at 28 years old have never been to the oasis location.
Theses videos are so great! Its like discovery documentary but for the fallout world, outstanding!
The rad roaches in fault 111 just be chillin while waiting for you un-popsicle
Man the shoulders of outcasts always make me think how much it would fuck you up of the charged at you and shoulder checked you in the face/jaw with those heavy, scratched, metal pauldrans 🤪🥲
I've always killed the outcast just to loot their base. Great video synonymous.
What would’ve been cool is if BGS had designed a metro system under the Citadel. The Pentagon has its own metro system, and having a Brotherhood of Steel mission to clear the tunnels would’ve been neat.
I like how elder Maxon tried to bring back the old bos but instead of his troops getting the institutes technology they opted for nukes with liberty prime
The institute technology is technology the BOS doesn't want people using. It's creating synths and FEV. BOS ddoes destroy tech to keep it out of people's hands, so it makes sense to destroy the base so that nobody else can use it. This falls in line with BOS goals.
@@SorceressWitch ok ya fare point but they do have a lot of electrical components which the bos could use
Who’s Macon?
@@RoanShip typo
This is a weird request but I’d love to hear lore about fallout’s soda companies, Nuka cola is everywhere and has so many offshoots, and Sunset sarsaparilla’s star caps were an intriguing collectible
I'll add them to the list! 😁👍
The Vim Company, they were one of the most honest and respectable companies in Fallout....and their soda WON'T give you rads.
Always was fond of the Brotherhood Outcasts and their attitudes is actually pretty rational in the context of what is going on in the wasteland at that time.
Glad to see you're back!
honestly the number of times I've heard "the best explanation is in the non-canon fallout bible" is so insane that im generally baffled that they made that book non cannon
U have bethesda to thank for that
See, the Outcasts complain that the BoS had stopped gathering tech. Except they didn't. Even under Lyons, they were still gathering tech they found. They just ALSO focused on helping people and stopping the Supermutant threat. Which seems like a lot more critical task. If the mutants aren't stopped, then it doesn't matter if they're gathering tech, there will be no humanity left to save.
1:25 liberty prime, “better dead than red.”
The outcasts were an interesting group because they were essentially considered one of the bad guys in Fallout 3 since they fought against the BoS, but they are literally following the ways of the brotherhood from Fallout 1 and 2 where they could be considered one of the good guys depending on how you play.
The lore from Fallout all the way thru to Fallout 4, is absolutely huge. There is SO much stuff that just gets overlooked if you don’t pay close attention. I need to reply them all... especially 3 tho, I hardly remember the story.
Not many people speak on the outcast this was nice to see im glad someone remembers them
Let's start a debate
The "normal" brotherhood of steel should've been the outcasts.
The Current Outcast brotherhood stands for everything that the BoS from Fallout 1/2 stood. The BoS in 3 accept and willingly protect wastelanders.
The original didn't. They only accepted the Vault Dweller because of desparation.
I see why being a Vault dweller will maybe increase your chance of joining the BoS but hey, 1% is still a 100th.
That is what's happening with the game anyway. Lyons adapted his goals to help the people in Washington D.C and these soldiers stuck in the past abandoned to start their own chapter of what the BoS should've been.
There's also the Midwest Brotherhood in Fallout Tactics
I always thought that their armor was getting rusty and that's why it looked black and red.
I played fallout 3 when i was like 15ish and I remember having such a black and white understanding of the outcasts, I knew it was deeper as i got older and played 4 and new vegas but it was nice to hear the full story.
This series is so dam good! 👍
they helped me at friendship heights during a playthrough, I was so hyped since I needed help and they random encountered perfectly
I wonder how often did bethesda think “oh yeah let us change this small thing, Im sure they wont notice”
I love the concept of the Outcasts, and even more so love their armor paint jobs! Thanks to the FO4 Creation Club content, I now always have my companions in Outcast Power Armor in both 3 and 4
You get it for free with mods 😂 Also oldschool Power Armors like in the old games.
I also love the outcasts assholish remarks towards you, pretty funny.
Honestly a fallout game with rad spiders instead of rad scorpions would be pretty cool. Their both of the arachnid family, quite possible spiders get benefits similar to scorpions when the bombs fell and FEV altered their DNA. What’d be crazy is not only the venom you could harvest from their fangs in possibly some spears or crossbows, but also their webs. Think about it: the webbing from spiders mutated on the scale of rad scorpions could quite possibly have webs as strong as steel. They’d have to be to hold up spiders that big and honestly could play into the game as a resource for weapons and armor crafting.
Of interesting note, has anybody else noticed that after the integration of the Outcasts into the newly reformed BoS that the Brotherhood took on their black and red color scheme? I just realized that, maybe as a tribute to their loyalty to the cause, as Lyons was technically a radical.
As a kid I thought the Outcasts were dickhead traitors, but now as an adult it actually all makes perfect sense.
it turns out Lyon's was actually the traitors while the Outcasts were just dickheads 🤣
No, because i noticed that my choices didnt mean sh*t. I destroyed the Citadel and the Outcasts in Fallout 3. Fallout 4 comes along, OH YEA THE BOS IN THEIR MASSIVE AIRSHIP. Straight tells me my decisions were ignored by ****s like Emil.
I wish you'd been able to talk to former outcasts in Fo4
Excellent as always...Thanks for the upload!
Your definitely the best fallout TH-camr. Always watch your videos
Thank you! 😁👍
Excellent work as always, Sir! o7
Isn't it ironic that the outcasts refer to Knights and Paladins as "Defender" and "Protector" when they left to avoid defending and protecting those they deemed unworthy?
I think it refers to defending and protecting technology, rather than people
Love the quip at the end. 😆 Great stuff.
no one but Beth says the Fallout Bible is non-canon.
I wish the Entirety of BOS would start acting like Lyons. Maxon is kinda going there a little. They go after the institute which are causing harm to people by kidnapping people or letting super mutant loose. And they are pretty nice to the people of the commonwealth compared to the outcasts who are very rude and condescending towards people. Maxon even let’s our character join something the outcasts and most other BoS don’t seems to do. They just need to find a good balance between being protectors and doing their own thing.
So outcasts left because they didn`t want to secure the area (Washington and outskirts) with technology in it?
Super mutants seem like big enough threat to attempts to find tech anywhere. I understand that they REALLY want that old tech, but super mutants already managed to kill some amount of BOS. Going out of relatively well defended area with smaller group just so they can say "I am actually doing what BOS people supposed to do" seems short-sighted. Yes, they have that fort and patrol some other areas, but they don`t have people to secure them. So that tech can fall into anyone`s hands. So they splintered basically because they wanted to stroke their own ego.
And no recruiting is just plain stupid. All of them are going to die at some point, so there just going to be some pointless robots left. Very helpful in a mission to secure tech and show those people in the citadel that removing relatively big threat to your operations is not necessary for your continued survival and success of said mission.
I think some outcast says elder "gone native" or something similar. No, he isn`t (at least not at the start). He tries to find source of and remove actual threat, while outcasts walk around and stare at tech that they can`t get. And act like assholes to natives they need to get to tech.
Then plot happens, threats and okay-ish leaders are removed, so BOS and outcasts reunite to build that dumb blimp and go to somewhat annoy people in the commonwealth. Guess someone at BGS remembered that outcasts were a thing and gave them a conclusion. Undeserved, but they are gone anyway.
I played FO3 a long time ago and my memory isn`t good, so I don`t remember much about outcasts and using my understanding of this video as a base.
The Outcasts initially formed to branch off from the direction Elder Lyons was taking the Brotherhood in, but now that the Brotherhood more closely resembles the Outcast's opinion on the wasteland, I wonder if the Outcasts can be reformed again one day under the leadership of someone wanting to break away from the more antagonistic direction of current-day Brotherhood. Perhaps this new group of Outcasts would then more resemble Lyons's vision of the Brotherhood. If anyone would start this approach to the Outcasts, I would think I would want it to be Maximus from the Fallout show.
I like you're idea
Outcasts rejoined the BOS under Maxson. They are no more.
@@SorceressWitch my man above is trying to say he wants Maximus to create an "Outcast" like group completely opposite from what the Outcasts was in Lyons time. Maximus has received knighthood, respect from others, and maybe power and slightly disillusioned with the Brotherhood in the end of the Fallout show. The man is not stating that the Outcast still exist but he's trying to say he wants Maximus to create his own small Splinter Group.
I been playing Fallout 3 again on my Xbox one and you posted a video on a faction I liked.
I always liked the Outcasts simply because their armor looked cool
i love how fallout 3 and nv is still realvent and people are still making content about it
If the goal is to keep technology out of the wrong hands, what if the Brotherhood is the wrongs hands, either for that time or the individual.
I like how the Ad Victoriam mod for Fallout 4 puts the Brotherhood's armor black and red as they brought the Outcasts back.
With the mod Fallout Wanderer's Edition, which is a very good overhaul for F3, many raider bands had "Fallen Brothers" with them which were basically outcasts who deserted and wen't mercenary for the Raiders.
What was cool is that the mod tweaked with the armor statistics and if you fought with an enemy in Power Armor with anything less than 5.56 full auto ammo and/or your weapon skill was below circa 60, the fight with a "Fallen Brother" was always won (if at all) by the skin of your teeth. This made encounters with raiders very interesting, especially in the first half of the game because every group of raiders could have at least one "Fallen Brother" in it.
I remember that when I faced one of them in Wheaton's Armory , I had to use all of my mines and grenades to get the dude to a near death state and even then it took a considerable amount of .44 and 5.56 ammo to bring him down.
I had a ton of fun with these fights, they were really exciting.
Lyndon is probably joining back into the brotherhood of steel once he hears about Elder Maxson single-handedly killed a deathclaw.
i love your content man, thanks for being such a great creator.
Easily one of the coolest breakaway factions in any piece of media, if only there were books surrounding fallout 3 deepening the lore
for some reason when i beat the dlc and opened the vault door,they all decided to kill eachother and tried to kill me lol idk if it was a bug or whatnot but i took what i could get and got the fuck outta there
I love your videos man they’re really interesting and informative keep up the good work bro 😎
Excellent lore videos , would love to hear about radroaches :]
Oh shit I remember watching orcadeas video on the gauss rifle back then, the outcasts being part of op anchorage was pretty badass
I understand you’re trying to stick to things that are strictly canon but I feel like an episode on the Midwestern brotherhood of steel would be greatly appreciated. They’re not often talked about and I feel like it would be a great opportunity to shed some light on an underrated faction. Great video!
I'll add them to the list! 😁👍
I'd love to see a fallout lore vid on everyone's favorite Great Khan, Chance
Hey man, just found your channel and love the videos! Would absolutely love a video on synths/the institute.
The outcasts all deserve a dawn appointment with the gallows.
Man it was funny when me my brother and dad played falliut 3 the first time. I was enclave all the way. Dad was brotherhood and brother was the outcasts. Our rivalry carried into warhammer sessions.
The outcasts are awesome! But I hope the sequel gives us different factions
How do they make flags in the post-apocalypse?
probably with the auto looms or a sewing machine or with a thread and needle?
May not have to even make a flag necessarily could refashion one or just remake it. Got the base materials and after all some old school thread and needle is an old reliable way to make clothes before the modern looms alongside sewing machines (which are probably inoperable or mostly ruined) to make clothing and other cloth products rapidly.
Incredible time of this video, I have recently started a new run on my ps3 fallout 3, and was heading for fort independent just after running into the Outcasts and was like, damn, forgot about them. So as I said great timing.
I have a small question about the creation club content Actually, is all the lore it brings in the missions cannon? Like the small group of outcast painted sentinel power armor is a thing now and did arc jet systems make a captain cosmos power armor?
Seeing a person sitting in power armor just looks funny after playing so much fallout 4 and 76 I actually forgot that was a thing in 3 and new Vegas
The Outcasts were always the faithful and right ones. Elder and Sarah Lyons were too blinded by doing the moral thing instead of the right thing.
The Outcasts. Cool armour, cool colour scheme, cool titles. But a bunch of self entitled jerks who treat outsiders like they are inferior even though they were helped by the Lone Wanderer 😂
You mean like the Brotherhood? The Outcasts are the Brotherhood. The actual Brotherhood of steel. Not the ridiculous fanfiction Todd has written about them.
so what the brotherhood was supposed to be?
Pretty much yeah.
based
@@requiemagent3014 you are a bit salty, aren't you? 🗿
Can you talk about or investigate the data entry inside the institute that mentions how synths are addicted to fancy lad cakes ?
It is in the same terminal I believe that mentions the mayor being a synth.
Thank the Ministry Mare that Elder Applesnack helped to return them to their original purpose.
You would think that the ones breaking from the goals of the BoS, would have been the ones with the changed paintjob.
Never got to interact with them in Fo3. Failed to follow into the base when asked to, and the door got labeld in red.
My favourite video yet
I actually ran into them immediately upon leaving vault 101 my first playthrough of FO3 (or any fallout game for that matter).
I tried attacking them because i thought they were the typical characters in the world
I'm firmly convinced that they're actually the good guys of the story.
Man, I miss the old power armor design.
It looked so much better.
I think the outcasts employ and weaponize the talon group as-well if you want more in this theory it’s on Reddit
Oh look, a new video. Sweet!
Hey Syn, would you consider doing a challenge run for any of the FO-games? Game and challenge is up to you, as far as I'm concerned. Anything you'd do a voiceover and playthrough for would be (and has been) absolutely golden.
Edit: and before anyone says that everything has been done already .. why yes, everything has been done; but not by this smooth-voiced son of a gun. Take care fellow wastelanders
They could do the challenge run where you get 1 strength and have to carry a wood chipper the entire playthrough with a mod that instantly kills you when you become over cumbered