Just wanted to mention that the bridge keeper in Fallout 2 is clearly a Monty Python reference, as his first two questions are, "What is your name?" And "What is your quest?", mimicking the bridge keeper in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I always saw dogmeat as a spirit of the wasteland character, a reoccurring character who aids the hero of each story. Similar to the mysterious stranger.
Yeah, Dogmeat is just a recurring iteration of a character for the _Fallout_ series, sort of a narrative leitmotif. Obviously, a dog that can't tell you its name, but always ends up with the same one, doesn't rely on explanations _within_ the fictional world.
S and E have been leaving hidden stashes of gear around for each other since the around the time the Nerevarine showed up in Morrowind... though they were on Solstheim. They also showed up in Cyrodiil just before the Oblivion Crisis. Those guys really get around.
*_Ecks_* and *_Sever,_* of course. A dev on _Bloodmoon_ might've worked for Crawfish Interactive on one of the _Ecks vs. Sever_ games. Or just liked the movie. Work on _Bloodmoon_ started around that time.
@@MegaZeta Yeah, "S" & "E" = "Sever" & "Ecks". Loaning weapons gives it away. Funny that a running gag in Bethesda games is pretty much the only lasting legacy of what was meant to be a whole _Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever_ franchise.
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Your theory about the missing synth at the Boston Airport is a new one for me and really interesting. If they are a child synth, couldn't it possibly be one of the squires?? Tucked away inside the Prydwen and surrounded by protective and highly lethal adults...
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An idea for the second mystery. The missing synth at the airport is a synth Brotherhood Squire, one of the kids that work with the Brotherhood. It explains the similar name to Shawn bot, and the lack of synth components, as you can’t normally kill kid npcs
So this is a bit late, but I have a theory. Remember how the airport was filled with ghouls before the BoS came there? What if S9 is a prefix for special/experimental synths and it was a ghoul synth?
It doesn’t matter if dogmeat is a synth at the end of the day he’s always there for the lone wanderer. Dogmeat’s model was named River and sadly passed away June 26,2021 River will be missed 😢
Can I just say that I love the fact that you’ve use the same background music for these videos? It really suits the relaxing and mysterious vibe you bring to your analyses. You have this really chill vibe and I love how you speculate, it really invokes the depth of this franchise’s lore to me. I always look forward to your videos man.
the Sea of Tranquility Conflict is one of my favorite obscure events in Fallout Just imagine: a battle on the MOON with Power Armor and space jets is a cool thought! The less we now about an event the more insane it appears lol
Agreed, i'd like to know more about it. Though I think the answer as to WHO we were fighting should be pretty obvious. Sino-American war came almost a century after the last recovered flag, BUT, there was exactly one other country we were in the space race with in both the real world and in the Fallout world, Russia.
I like to think that if Dogmeat is a synthetic that in a way, he was also a gift from Shawn. He is a loyal ally for his parents in a dangerous new world.
In my mind, Shawn put you on this path to deliver you to the institute and have you be a kind of arbiter. To look at it with an unbiase eye and pass jugement, the story makes way more sense if you look at all the stuff going on as Shawn trying to get you to that point.
@@captainseyepatch3879 Well, it's kind of canon that Shawn had been planning on letting the Sole Survivor out for a while before the start of the game and he went through the trouble of leaving breadcrumbs for them to follow. He sent Kellog and the kid to Diamond City, had Kellog stay on the surface and leave a breadcrumb trail for the MC to follow, and might have told mayor mcdonough to help you (Which he doesn't unless you pass a speech check to tell you about Valentine or convince him to give you a key to Kellogs house, but I think that's because the mayor seems more interested in his own goals than that of the Institute) Shawn admits that he didn't think your character would survive, but he did seem to hope you would, maybe he wanted you to be his heir from the very beginning. So it would make sense that he would give you an ally who could help you survive track down Kellog. Maybe he hoped you would find a way to the institute on your own, if not it's possible he would have found a way to bring you there eventually. Lastly, since I started thinking about the heir thing while writing this. Shawn didn't select an heir, I think there was mention of one director who seemed the most likely candidate, but shawn hadn't selected anyone yet. And some of the dialogue during your last few conversations with shawn suggests that the reason he died was because he stopped his cancer treatment, he could have continued living for who knows how long, but he stopped treatment to make room for the MC to take over. So my theory is that everything that Shawn lied when he said it was all an experiment, I think the truth is that he became sentimental and tried to justify it as something cold and scientific, that he started to doubt everything that the institute stood for. That he wanted to try and bond with his only surviving parent, to tie up loose ends and make sure that the institute would have a leader who could hopefully set them on a better path.
@@GateCaptain If only that part of the script worked well… It’s clunky enough that it feels safe to say _"Shaun woke up the Sole Survivor"_ was a very late addition to the story. I get the desire to connect key story events on the part of the writers, but, honestly, _"Your freezer malfunctioned and spat you out decades later"_ has fewer narrative problems.
when you speak with Shaun about Kellogg, he even says something like "I felt it would be a good thing to give you at least some closure" hinting that he somehow gave us Kellogg as a silver platter, Dogmeat being a synth made by Shaun to lead us to him, the institute and to Kellogg, like Dogmeat does, makes some sort of sense in that way..
Vault 19, the vault with the red and blue groups, is most likely based on the Robbers Cave Experiment. A social psychological experiment were they had two groups of boys artificially create rivalries in a summer camp. Also like to say that this is another banger in the iceberg videos. The entries are getting more interesting and more unknown. Like pickman in fallout 4, I remembered when I first found those paintings of his back in 2015. Felt like I entered an irl gaming creepypasta. But I haven’t seen much talk about him and his paintings online. The painting of the many eyes, I once joked that it was some eldritch god. But with his found connection to Dunwich. Now I’m really interested. I’m a huge fan of HP lovecraft, so whenever something new is found of Dunwich in fallout, I get happy. Awesome vid 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥
About Dogmeat being a Synth, it should be noted that Synth Gorillas also don't drop synth components, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary that Synths have that particular component. It has to be something extra not needed for the synth to actually function. Especially since it looks the same as the courser chip. The wiki says the courser chip allows teleportation into the Institute. Interesting. Maybe synth components just allow the possibility of teleportation if needed? Like, have it pre-installed and just needing the software of the chip to be updated? So maybe not ever synth HAS to have a synth component.....really makes you think.
More iceberg content let's gooooo Also the bridge of death in FO2, for anyone curious who doesn't know, is a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the bridge keeper asks you questions 3 and if you succeed you can cross, otherwise you die. In the movie they ask a question to him and he can't answer, so he dies. I assume the game does the same
My personal Decon head cannon is that he’s an ex-institute agent from before they used Coursers. He knew about the significance of Vault 111 and kept an eye on it in case the SS came out too. He could have the same life extending impants as Kellogg. Or knowing Decon/Bethesda, he was one of the guys who retrieved Shawn
Part of me also thinks Dogmeat appearing like that is a bit of a joke. The player can comment on having a missing dog prewar, and when the game really starts, you find Codworth after all these years, then leave Sanctuary and immediately find the descendant of Nate and Nora's lost Dog too. Yeah he's probably a synth, but I find it funny that Nate can find so much of his prewar life, including his old neighbours, with enough effort.
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That is so true, I was watching some CinnamonToastKen, and got the notification, and was like "welp!! Ima do that immediately after this video, where are my earbuds" hahaha
A theory I had about the Reds and Blues at Vault 19 is that when the entrance opened, or was opened by something (either an outside or an inside force), both factions though that the other ones can have the already half-functioning, failing and doomed Vault and that they would find something better on the surface. Of course, they were not prepared for the Mojave, and if I remember correctly, definitely not prepared for the Deathclaws scattered in a few hundred meter radius of the Vault. Speaking of which, could they have something to do with the Deathclaws? Probably not, but no one can expect Todd Howard's and/or Josh Sawyer's ways.
Always worth a replay, also try out the Grounded Commonwealth mod, the creators paid voice actors to revoice a bunch of npcs and fixed a bunch of weird dialogue
Nate has a good speaking voice and does good presentations. You can also tell he puts a lot of work into his videos, or pays a great editor. He always knows how to take strange parts of the games and put it in the spotlight in a way that almost makes you want to revisit the games.
Videos, not "content". "Content" is the word advertising agency peons use, because to them, it doesn’t matter what puts eyes on commercials. "Content" is sand to fill a bucket.
@@GodActio it's weird how they just replace (pretty much) every woman with a man and re voice (most) characters to be white, i know it's supposed to be "so that the experience now aligns more with what you would expect from a caricatured America that never moved on from its 1950s Atomic Age culture" but it's been 210 years. There are women soldiers in the NCR, there are plenty of colored characters in previous games and saying "Oh but it's supposed to be like the 1950s!!" just comes off as stupid, people have traveled the entire continent, what's to say that strong women and black people haven't lmao. Oh and one of the videos featuring it's pre-producition had/has many racist comments, the creator also has a twitter full of racist, xenophobic, sexist and bigoted content. And the mod got removed from Nexus because everyone hated it. And *It's been 200 years to get over our pre-conceptualize notions of race and sexism because, oh yeah, THE WORLD HAS ENDED* The creators responded to backlash with _"To those who are wondering why I am spending time on what appears to be such a trivial pursuit, well, if you're familiar with the modding scene, then you know that controversial mods get a lot of press. For example, ReaperAnon's mods Grounded Skyrim and More Racism in Windhelm - Improvements got a ton of traction on social media, and various outlets wrote up pieces about them. Some tweets about them on twitter had over 100,000 likes. We are convinced that if we play the cards right, we could get a lot of people talking about this mod, even if it doesn't get many downloads. We can attract a lot of new people and traffic to our circles."_ I feel so fucking tired now, this was 2 minutes of research but it took 6 years off my life.
@@thisismyonlyline263edits, cuts, adding in content he forgot when he first recorded, final edits, final cuts, added sponsors, etc.. the list goes on and on
22:20 we actually have a possible theory as to why dogmeat is so healthy. The fallout TV show gave us a glimpse into an enclave dog-training/FEV facility. Is it possible that there is another facility nearby the commonwealth where this one escaped? Mama Murphy has known dogmeat for an unknown amount of time but seems suspiciously aware of his personality and habits. Further inspection of dogmeat’s character reveals him as having been trained, combat proficient, and no apparent owner on top of being what seems to be a perfect animal in a world of wild mongrels and mutated hounds (which might be what the enclave is going for having both dog-training and FEV in the same facility; pre-programmed/trained mutant hounds).
That's such a good theory, I thought that dogmeat was possibly a synth, but then there are other dogs that look like 'normal' dogs, so I'm unsure how they would come into play with those theories
@@Punkinfluence_666 and the other thing is, while you can find synth animals inside the Institute, you don’t see anything about dogs. Only birds and gorillas.
@lazarusofdeath3123 that's very true actually, it would make more sense that he was from somewhere like the dog training facility, and since FEV extends life span indefinitely it would make alot more sense since dogmeat is in every game.
Can we just talk about how spectacular of an easter egg joke meeting Dogmeat was? When I first played, I was in tears laughing. You find a dog, at a location named 'red rocket'.
Once you reach fully affinity with Deacon he tells you his backstory and I’m pretty sure that’s not a lie. At least I haven’t seen anything saying that it is
Yeah, while he's happy to keep joking after his previous fake affinity talks, if you condemn him after his reveal, he'll be quite upset and shut the conversation down with "And that's why I don't tell anyone this. I should've fucking known. You know what, it's all a big lie." It's pretty obviously meant to be taken as his "true" past.
@@cherryoctopie nah.. Deacon is just that good of a liar that he makes you think like that.. don't believe anything that bloke says, if he says the sky is blue, you better check it yourself..
@@mikoto7693there is a specific unmarked location somewhere in fallout 4 (I can’t remember where) where he will remark that his wife would have loved this spot.
@@elitereptilian200He has no reason to lie about that, he tells you that story only after reaching his maximum affinity, meaning that he basically loves you, to the point of saying he would follow you to hell, what would he gain by making up an elaborate lie about his tragic past? Absolutely nothing, he is genuinely trying to open up to someone for once, which is why he gets upset if you condemn him for his actions, something that he doesn't care about when he is lying.
I'm patiently waiting for the next parts. This was so interesting to listen to, some were new and even old ones you usually sprinkled in your own theories making it enjoyable
The Bridge Keeper may be a reference to the bridge keeper in Monty Python and The Holy Grail who asks the Knights of the Round Table three questions in order to pass his bridge. Getting any of them wrong results in death. King Arthur gains passage by asking the Bridge Keeper a question he doesn't know the answer to resulting in the Bridge Keeper's death.
I'm so appreciative of these videos, I love learning about the worlds I explore and these Skyrim and Fallout videos have been some of my favorites to watch. Keep up the great work Nate!
I really like how with this script you're leaning into the "X knows and X never tells" line that's been in a lot of other videos and then playing about with it a bit.
All because of you and this darn Iceberg, I put 30 hours into new vegas since the last video, and I bought fallout 3 for the pc on sale! Been having a great time!!!
I really appreciate that you are so descriptive with your script. I listen to your videos when driving, so it's appreciated that I don't actually have to look at the video in order to enjoy.
I’m surprised the bridge from fallout 2 was a tier three mystery, considering it’s just an Easter egg from Monty Python’s Holy Grail. Definitely a surprise, but a welcome one 😉
I had no clue it was referencing anything. Not everyone has seen that movie, most people I know never have. That’s probably why it is where it is on the iceberg.
@@falseshepherd-490 i suppose it would have been an easier reference back when the game came out. So much of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are just references to movies, games and other bits of pop culture. It was a big part of the charm. Never watching Monty Python’s Holy Grail is a different matter. You and your friends are missing out on one of the OGs of comedy. I recommend giving it a try 👍
With a high enough intelligence you can ask the keeper a question and he will hesitate and die. It's as close to a 1-1 remake of the sceen in the movie as you can get
Powder gangers absolutely are ruthless and senselessly evil. Look at Ringo's caravan, look at Primm, talk with them a bit: they are just a bad and cruel raider faction. They gunned down your fellow courier! (And then freed Primm citizens walked around the corpse like nothing happened, but that's on them lol)
These videos come out in the evening for me when I normally can't listen right away, but it always gives me something to look forward to at work the next day! Thanks so much for all of your hard work! ❤
Hey EpicNate, I just wanna say thank you for making this content and keeping our spirits up! I have been going through hell lately with family but your videos help me so much! Thank you so much :)
I think your theory for s9-43 is a good one but I think it could be that child of atom you encounter in the qurst where you go into the underground part of the airport
I think dogmeat is a synth. Consider this: a synth escaped i stitue custody and is named along the same line Shaun is. They say it escaped near tge airport. I find it funny that then in Far Harbor you meet a super mutant at a plane selling dogs. He comments how he's never seen a dog like dogmeat before. The comic as inspiration adds to the idea of dogmeat being an inspiration to get Nate along his way. But as weve seen, dogmeat has a mind of its own.
Working on a playthrough of fallout 4 while listening to this in the background. It helps makes the slower bits in the game more enjoyable, thanks for the video.
Amazing content as always Nate, I hope you do lore for starfield when it comes out! Your incredible storytelling helps me get through my daily boring desk job
I feel like Erik Todd Dellums tweets teasing his return was to do with his part of voicing Three Dog in the ShoddyCast's Fallout Storyteller series where he appears in multiple episodes.
The sea of tranquility conflict is when the humans landed on the moon a second time to mine it for resources. The Lunarians took it as an act of aggression and retaliated. The Americans took the Lunar Capitol with the assistance of Junko. The Watatsuki sisters, leaders of the Lunar Defense Corps were backed into a corner with most Moon Rabbit troops either dead or captured, eventually leading to Lord Tsukuyomi surrending. It was a really brutal conflict with Junko razing the Lunar Capitol afterwards. How could you forget this? She committed so many war crimes.
It's so sad that I have come to expect so little from Bethesda, that I expect any strangeness or mysterious happenstance to be just the developer's lazyness
Interesting thing about Dogmeat: if you skip past Red Rocket and don't him up, Nick Valentine summons him when needed for the main quest. Considering Nick is also a synth, it adds a little more fuel to the theory that Dogmeat is a synth.
You forgot about John Hancock wasn’t he a pre-war ghoul? He took an experimental drug before the war and turned into one he claims to be the first one ever made.
John Hancock was originally John McDonough, Mayor McDonough’s little brother who only became a ghoul after the ghouls were kicked out of Diamond City. I think you’re thinking of Eddie Winters, the mobster from Nick Valentine’s past who turned himself into a ghoul.
For the bridge keeper mystery…i believe it is an easter egg that references the movie “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”. In the movie there is a bridge keeper who asks king arthur and his knights 3 questions and if they get one wrong they are cast into the ravine below. The movie is hilarious, I highly recommend it!
An enjoyable video with a lot of interesting and intriguing bits of info! The bridge keeper, though, is a reference to Monty Python's Holy Grail, and is probably about as relevant to the series' plot as the crashed Star Trek shuttle.
For the duplicated raiders at the fishpacking plant, they could be synths, because in FO3 during the "Replicated Man" quest, the railroad agent gives you a synth component, which is only obtainable by killing a synth, but the synth it's from is very much still alive, so the railroad might have a way to remove synth components without killing the synth.
Something I've always thought about with the Institute (and sorta connects to the mysterious absence of Dr Zimmer) is why they never, in their 210 years of existence, decided to build another site to do their experiments elsewhere in the Fallout universe - a Site B if you will. If there is a Site B somewhere out there, I'm willing to bet that it's currently located in the same area that Fallout 5 is set in and that Dr Zimmer is currently residing there now that the original Institute is gone and could also be wherever these "high profile" units are located.
Wait... what if S-943 is Deacon? He goes everywhere and gets facial surgery often, according to his dialog with the Dr in Diamond City, so maybe his last sighting with his original face was at the Airport
If Dogmeat is a synth then he must be the one that escaped to the airport. That would put him closer to Quincy. And he would probably already be programmed to be friendly to Shain and anyone hes related to. Its just wierd that hes never recognized as such and hes definitely not put there deliberately since we can have him with us working against the Institute and they have no idea. And the Coursers never recognize him.
Nitpick: The description of "Pickman's Model" wasn't quite accurate. Richard Pickman created horrifying paintings of ghouls (mythical corpse eaters, not Fallout mutants) and after he disappeared it was discovered that he had been painting them using actual living ghouls as models. He later reappeared in "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" having become a ghoul himself.
I'm new to your channel and wonderful storytelling. Also new to the game. Can you do the "Boston killer " story? All took place in the Boston Sewers. Thanks. This game rocks.
I havent seen anyone talk about this, but in the intro to fallout 4, there is a dog bowl that you can interact with and your character makes a comment, saying, "never gonna catch that dog", what if dogmeat is a synth replica of the dog.
I think the most likely explanation for Dr. Zimmer is that he was supposed to be part of the Far Harbor DLC, but was cut for whatever reason. That would explain why he was away from the Commonwealth.
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Bethesda promised Fallout 5 in late 2025 to early 2026...
The ad read sounds a little tinfoilhatish, kinda skirting over a whole bunch of supporting information?
@@Alibium from Todd Howard's fuckin mouth at E3
@@signpostmarvprobably like 99% scripted with spots to insert personalized anecdotes, that seems to be the usual template for ad reads at the moment.
Just wanted to let you know that you wrote part one in the description but it should read part two
Just wanted to mention that the bridge keeper in Fallout 2 is clearly a Monty Python reference, as his first two questions are, "What is your name?" And "What is your quest?", mimicking the bridge keeper in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
"What- is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"
@@gaskamp2a european or a african swallow?
@@gaskamp2"What do you mean, an African or a European Swallow?"
lets give him a pass on that one
Who's name is Tim. Tim the enchanter
I always saw dogmeat as a spirit of the wasteland character, a reoccurring character who aids the hero of each story. Similar to the mysterious stranger.
The stranger has actually had a real kid. So he isn't a spirit, just incredibly strange
Didn’t mama Murphy also mention dogmeat in a weird way in her readings? I can’t remember exactly what she said though.
My headcanon is Dogmeat is a descendant of the dog that Nate and Nora had that ran away.
@@DeebirddNick Valentine also knows Dogmeat
Yeah, Dogmeat is just a recurring iteration of a character for the _Fallout_ series, sort of a narrative leitmotif. Obviously, a dog that can't tell you its name, but always ends up with the same one, doesn't rely on explanations _within_ the fictional world.
S and E have been leaving hidden stashes of gear around for each other since the around the time the Nerevarine showed up in Morrowind... though they were on Solstheim. They also showed up in Cyrodiil just before the Oblivion Crisis. Those guys really get around.
*_Ecks_* and *_Sever,_* of course. A dev on _Bloodmoon_ might've worked for Crawfish Interactive on one of the _Ecks vs. Sever_ games. Or just liked the movie. Work on _Bloodmoon_ started around that time.
@@MegaZeta Yeah, "S" & "E" = "Sever" & "Ecks". Loaning weapons gives it away. Funny that a running gag in Bethesda games is pretty much the only lasting legacy of what was meant to be a whole _Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever_ franchise.
Where in blood moon and oblivion are they?
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Your theory about the missing synth at the Boston Airport is a new one for me and really interesting. If they are a child synth, couldn't it possibly be one of the squires?? Tucked away inside the Prydwen and surrounded by protective and highly lethal adults...
Nevermind I forgot about the different number designation, my bad
That's what I was thinking too
Of course if they found out, they’d kill them. It’s a really odd choice of folk to throw in with when you’re everything they hate.
What if it's Sturges?
There’s also the possibility it’s the child at nordhagen beach
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@@Warpyxelsthis is a re-upload
0:00 Intro
1:14 Sponsor
2:24 Dr. Zimmer
7:05 S9-43
11:28 Three Dog
18:52 E & S
21:05 Fallout 4 Dogmeat
24:42 Vault 19 Residents
30:01 Deacon
34:48 Dunwich
37:22 Pickman
40:10 Sea of Tranquility conflict
44:16 Mothmen
47:47 Bridge Keeper
49:55 Mahkra Fishpacking Raiders
53:04 How many players in the 'Great Game'
56:59 Pre-war Ghouls
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Awesome addition
An idea for the second mystery. The missing synth at the airport is a synth Brotherhood Squire, one of the kids that work with the Brotherhood. It explains the similar name to Shawn bot, and the lack of synth components, as you can’t normally kill kid npcs
I was thinking the same thing, myself.
This is a solid theory I honestly completely agree. It just makes sense.
So this is a bit late, but I have a theory. Remember how the airport was filled with ghouls before the BoS came there? What if S9 is a prefix for special/experimental synths and it was a ghoul synth?
It doesn’t matter if dogmeat is a synth at the end of the day he’s always there for the lone wanderer. Dogmeat’s model was named River and sadly passed away June 26,2021 River will be missed 😢
Can I just say that I love the fact that you’ve use the same background music for these videos? It really suits the relaxing and mysterious vibe you bring to your analyses. You have this really chill vibe and I love how you speculate, it really invokes the depth of this franchise’s lore to me. I always look forward to your videos man.
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the Sea of Tranquility Conflict is one of my favorite obscure events in Fallout
Just imagine: a battle on the MOON with Power Armor and space jets is a cool thought!
The less we now about an event the more insane it appears lol
Agreed, i'd like to know more about it. Though I think the answer as to WHO we were fighting should be pretty obvious. Sino-American war came almost a century after the last recovered flag, BUT, there was exactly one other country we were in the space race with in both the real world and in the Fallout world, Russia.
Nate is the GOAT of fallout/elder scrolls lore. You go way deeper than everyone else. Thanks man!
I like to think that if Dogmeat is a synthetic that in a way, he was also a gift from Shawn. He is a loyal ally for his parents in a dangerous new world.
In my mind, Shawn put you on this path to deliver you to the institute and have you be a kind of arbiter. To look at it with an unbiase eye and pass jugement, the story makes way more sense if you look at all the stuff going on as Shawn trying to get you to that point.
@@captainseyepatch3879 Well, it's kind of canon that Shawn had been planning on letting the Sole Survivor out for a while before the start of the game and he went through the trouble of leaving breadcrumbs for them to follow. He sent Kellog and the kid to Diamond City, had Kellog stay on the surface and leave a breadcrumb trail for the MC to follow, and might have told mayor mcdonough to help you (Which he doesn't unless you pass a speech check to tell you about Valentine or convince him to give you a key to Kellogs house, but I think that's because the mayor seems more interested in his own goals than that of the Institute)
Shawn admits that he didn't think your character would survive, but he did seem to hope you would, maybe he wanted you to be his heir from the very beginning. So it would make sense that he would give you an ally who could help you survive track down Kellog. Maybe he hoped you would find a way to the institute on your own, if not it's possible he would have found a way to bring you there eventually.
Lastly, since I started thinking about the heir thing while writing this. Shawn didn't select an heir, I think there was mention of one director who seemed the most likely candidate, but shawn hadn't selected anyone yet. And some of the dialogue during your last few conversations with shawn suggests that the reason he died was because he stopped his cancer treatment, he could have continued living for who knows how long, but he stopped treatment to make room for the MC to take over.
So my theory is that everything that Shawn lied when he said it was all an experiment, I think the truth is that he became sentimental and tried to justify it as something cold and scientific, that he started to doubt everything that the institute stood for. That he wanted to try and bond with his only surviving parent, to tie up loose ends and make sure that the institute would have a leader who could hopefully set them on a better path.
@@GateCaptain If only that part of the script worked well… It’s clunky enough that it feels safe to say _"Shaun woke up the Sole Survivor"_ was a very late addition to the story. I get the desire to connect key story events on the part of the writers, but, honestly, _"Your freezer malfunctioned and spat you out decades later"_ has fewer narrative problems.
when you speak with Shaun about Kellogg, he even says something like "I felt it would be a good thing to give you at least some closure" hinting that he somehow gave us Kellogg as a silver platter, Dogmeat being a synth made by Shaun to lead us to him, the institute and to Kellogg, like Dogmeat does, makes some sort of sense in that way..
@@Thy_Boss Isn't there something in the game that tells you that the cryopods were opened via an external remote connection?
It feels like it's been far longer than a month since the first fallout iceberg video
Ikr 😢😅
It’s been less than a month….
The videos do have time stamps, this is verifiable information
@BlueScreenCorp it's called a joke. How long it feels like it has been and how long it has actually been are clearly 2 different things
It feels like I've been waiting less than 3 weeks
Vault 19, the vault with the red and blue groups, is most likely based on the Robbers Cave Experiment. A social psychological experiment were they had two groups of boys artificially create rivalries in a summer camp.
Also like to say that this is another banger in the iceberg videos. The entries are getting more interesting and more unknown.
Like pickman in fallout 4, I remembered when I first found those paintings of his back in 2015. Felt like I entered an irl gaming creepypasta. But I haven’t seen much talk about him and his paintings online.
The painting of the many eyes, I once joked that it was some eldritch god. But with his found connection to Dunwich. Now I’m really interested. I’m a huge fan of HP lovecraft, so whenever something new is found of Dunwich in fallout, I get happy.
Awesome vid 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's always a good day when Nate uploads a video
Indeed
"always" is 100% the correct word
Indeed
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Honestly 😂
About Dogmeat being a Synth, it should be noted that Synth Gorillas also don't drop synth components, so I'm wondering if it's even necessary that Synths have that particular component. It has to be something extra not needed for the synth to actually function. Especially since it looks the same as the courser chip. The wiki says the courser chip allows teleportation into the Institute. Interesting.
Maybe synth components just allow the possibility of teleportation if needed? Like, have it pre-installed and just needing the software of the chip to be updated?
So maybe not ever synth HAS to have a synth component.....really makes you think.
More iceberg content let's gooooo
Also the bridge of death in FO2, for anyone curious who doesn't know, is a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the bridge keeper asks you questions 3 and if you succeed you can cross, otherwise you die. In the movie they ask a question to him and he can't answer, so he dies. I assume the game does the same
Shame on you for making me boot the game to remember. Remind me to answer in two week if I haven't already lol
@GlitchedRed hey it's been 4 weeks now. I request an answer.
@@Shallow_Fire13bro answered the question wrong he's gone.
My personal Decon head cannon is that he’s an ex-institute agent from before they used Coursers. He knew about the significance of Vault 111 and kept an eye on it in case the SS came out too. He could have the same life extending impants as Kellogg. Or knowing Decon/Bethesda, he was one of the guys who retrieved Shawn
Still my favorite game franchise of all time, even after all these years. There's something about fallout that you just can't find anywhere else.
i feel the same way
Part of me also thinks Dogmeat appearing like that is a bit of a joke.
The player can comment on having a missing dog prewar, and when the game really starts, you find Codworth after all these years, then leave Sanctuary and immediately find the descendant of Nate and Nora's lost Dog too.
Yeah he's probably a synth, but I find it funny that Nate can find so much of his prewar life, including his old neighbours, with enough effort.
Dogmeat in Fallout 4 is based on a dog in the real world, that's why he looks "normal" as opposed to messed up.
It’s explained in the Fallout series, dogs are not mutated because they are in mass breeding facilities that the enclave constructed.
@@AzuraDragona That was the west coast, and one location. The Dog is simply an archetype character.
Dogmeat is a good boy
Don't you call him a synth plant >:(
These are always some of the most passionate and unique videos you can find on TH-cam as a whole. Every time WE see a new epicnate video, our faces light up and our prior plans immediately come to a hault. Your an inspiration bro. Keep being a legend!
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That is so true, I was watching some CinnamonToastKen, and got the notification, and was like "welp!! Ima do that immediately after this video, where are my earbuds" hahaha
A theory I had about the Reds and Blues at Vault 19 is that when the entrance opened, or was opened by something (either an outside or an inside force), both factions though that the other ones can have the already half-functioning, failing and doomed Vault and that they would find something better on the surface.
Of course, they were not prepared for the Mojave, and if I remember correctly, definitely not prepared for the Deathclaws scattered in a few hundred meter radius of the Vault.
Speaking of which, could they have something to do with the Deathclaws? Probably not, but no one can expect Todd Howard's and/or Josh Sawyer's ways.
My guy making content for a game that came out In 2015 ... and still makes it feel new, absolutely amazing 👏
Always worth a replay, also try out the Grounded Commonwealth mod, the creators paid voice actors to revoice a bunch of npcs and fixed a bunch of weird dialogue
That came out in 2015, 2010, 2008, 1998 and 1997 more likely, if he will not venture into Tactics and such)
Nate has a good speaking voice and does good presentations. You can also tell he puts a lot of work into his videos, or pays a great editor. He always knows how to take strange parts of the games and put it in the spotlight in a way that almost makes you want to revisit the games.
Videos, not "content". "Content" is the word advertising agency peons use, because to them, it doesn’t matter what puts eyes on commercials. "Content" is sand to fill a bucket.
@@GodActio it's weird how they just replace (pretty much) every woman with a man and re voice (most) characters to be white, i know it's supposed to be "so that the experience now aligns more with what you would expect from a caricatured America that never moved on from its 1950s Atomic Age culture" but it's been 210 years. There are women soldiers in the NCR, there are plenty of colored characters in previous games and saying "Oh but it's supposed to be like the 1950s!!" just comes off as stupid, people have traveled the entire continent, what's to say that strong women and black people haven't lmao. Oh and one of the videos featuring it's pre-producition had/has many racist comments, the creator also has a twitter full of racist, xenophobic, sexist and bigoted content. And the mod got removed from Nexus because everyone hated it. And *It's been 200 years to get over our pre-conceptualize notions of race and sexism because, oh yeah, THE WORLD HAS ENDED* The creators responded to backlash with _"To those who are wondering why I am spending time on what appears to be such a trivial pursuit, well, if you're familiar with the modding scene, then you know that controversial mods get a lot of press. For example, ReaperAnon's mods Grounded Skyrim and More Racism in Windhelm - Improvements got a ton of traction on social media, and various outlets wrote up pieces about them. Some tweets about them on twitter had over 100,000 likes. We are convinced that if we play the cards right, we could get a lot of people talking about this mod, even if it doesn't get many downloads. We can attract a lot of new people and traffic to our circles."_
I feel so fucking tired now, this was 2 minutes of research but it took 6 years off my life.
but the iceberg part 3 and 4 never came. why? only epic nate knows... and epic nate isn't telling
He’s probably still working on it. He’s been known to spend over a year on a video.
@@DrDinoNuggiesI don’t get it…these videos are only an hour long…how can they take over a year to make? /s
@@thisismyonlyline263edits, cuts, adding in content he forgot when he first recorded, final edits, final cuts, added sponsors, etc.. the list goes on and on
@@thisismyonlyline263does /s mean sarcastic or serious?
maybe starfield broke his spirit lol
I love that the Fallout community has just the unspoken rule that your Dad in Fallout 3 is just referred to as Liam Neeson instead of Dad/James
If the Lone Wanderer dies, He would single handedly destory the Enclave himself
@@quinnholloway5400hell he'll go all dark side and use his special set of skill all at the same time
Yes
22:20 we actually have a possible theory as to why dogmeat is so healthy. The fallout TV show gave us a glimpse into an enclave dog-training/FEV facility. Is it possible that there is another facility nearby the commonwealth where this one escaped? Mama Murphy has known dogmeat for an unknown amount of time but seems suspiciously aware of his personality and habits. Further inspection of dogmeat’s character reveals him as having been trained, combat proficient, and no apparent owner on top of being what seems to be a perfect animal in a world of wild mongrels and mutated hounds (which might be what the enclave is going for having both dog-training and FEV in the same facility; pre-programmed/trained mutant hounds).
That's such a good theory, I thought that dogmeat was possibly a synth, but then there are other dogs that look like 'normal' dogs, so I'm unsure how they would come into play with those theories
@@Punkinfluence_666 and the other thing is, while you can find synth animals inside the Institute, you don’t see anything about dogs. Only birds and gorillas.
@lazarusofdeath3123 that's very true actually, it would make more sense that he was from somewhere like the dog training facility, and since FEV extends life span indefinitely it would make alot more sense since dogmeat is in every game.
You know it’s a good day when a new fallout video drops
Dr. Zimmer can be killed in Fallout 3 by Harkness. It's likely he is still missing because he's may possibly be dead depending on player choice.
they probably did that to not force a canon choice to the quest in fallout 3
Can we just talk about how spectacular of an easter egg joke meeting Dogmeat was? When I first played, I was in tears laughing. You find a dog, at a location named 'red rocket'.
Do you think Chewbacca has a human-like penis or one like a dog
Most likely like a Sumatran Rhino
I need brain bleach as I can't unread that.
@@shawnl9545Definitely humanoid. Although I could maybe see it being something crazy like a two-prong kangaroo penis since he's an alien.
@@shawnl9545more importantly, does he shit like a human or dog!?!?
Once you reach fully affinity with Deacon he tells you his backstory and I’m pretty sure that’s not a lie. At least I haven’t seen anything saying that it is
Yeah, while he's happy to keep joking after his previous fake affinity talks, if you condemn him after his reveal, he'll be quite upset and shut the conversation down with "And that's why I don't tell anyone this. I should've fucking known. You know what, it's all a big lie." It's pretty obviously meant to be taken as his "true" past.
@@cherryoctopie nah.. Deacon is just that good of a liar that he makes you think like that.. don't believe anything that bloke says, if he says the sky is blue, you better check it yourself..
I think there is cut content regarding the gravestone or grave marker of Deacon’s synth lover.
@@mikoto7693there is a specific unmarked location somewhere in fallout 4 (I can’t remember where) where he will remark that his wife would have loved this spot.
@@elitereptilian200He has no reason to lie about that, he tells you that story only after reaching his maximum affinity, meaning that he basically loves you, to the point of saying he would follow you to hell, what would he gain by making up an elaborate lie about his tragic past? Absolutely nothing, he is genuinely trying to open up to someone for once, which is why he gets upset if you condemn him for his actions, something that he doesn't care about when he is lying.
YES!! Another one hour-long video from Nate to binge. Thanks, dude!!
I'm patiently waiting for the next parts. This was so interesting to listen to, some were new and even old ones you usually sprinkled in your own theories making it enjoyable
The bridgekeeper is 100% an easteregg joke about Monty Pythons Quest for the Holy Grail
The Bridge Keeper may be a reference to the bridge keeper in Monty Python and The Holy Grail who asks the Knights of the Round Table three questions in order to pass his bridge. Getting any of them wrong results in death. King Arthur gains passage by asking the Bridge Keeper a question he doesn't know the answer to resulting in the Bridge Keeper's death.
I'm so appreciative of these videos, I love learning about the worlds I explore and these Skyrim and Fallout videos have been some of my favorites to watch. Keep up the great work Nate!
I really like how with this script you're leaning into the "X knows and X never tells" line that's been in a lot of other videos and then playing about with it a bit.
I like the color green
we need a compilation of all of nate’s iconic lines
Still convinced that the missing child synth is the kid at Nordhagen Beach -- it's right across from the Boston airport.
All because of you and this darn Iceberg, I put 30 hours into new vegas since the last video, and I bought fallout 3 for the pc on sale! Been having a great time!!!
I can’t wait to see how deep we go in this part
I really appreciate that you are so descriptive with your script. I listen to your videos when driving, so it's appreciated that I don't actually have to look at the video in order to enjoy.
I’m surprised the bridge from fallout 2 was a tier three mystery, considering it’s just an Easter egg from Monty Python’s Holy Grail. Definitely a surprise, but a welcome one 😉
It's not even an easter egg, it's just a straight up reference.
I had no clue it was referencing anything. Not everyone has seen that movie, most people I know never have. That’s probably why it is where it is on the iceberg.
@@falseshepherd-490 i suppose it would have been an easier reference back when the game came out. So much of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are just references to movies, games and other bits of pop culture. It was a big part of the charm.
Never watching Monty Python’s Holy Grail is a different matter. You and your friends are missing out on one of the OGs of comedy. I recommend giving it a try 👍
@@duckymomo6472it's still extremely popular. Maybe not as much with GenZ?
With a high enough intelligence you can ask the keeper a question and he will hesitate and die. It's as close to a 1-1 remake of the sceen in the movie as you can get
Powder gangers absolutely are ruthless and senselessly evil. Look at Ringo's caravan, look at Primm, talk with them a bit: they are just a bad and cruel raider faction. They gunned down your fellow courier! (And then freed Primm citizens walked around the corpse like nothing happened, but that's on them lol)
Seeing the deleted tweets by three dogs va kinda hits diff with that fallout 3 remaster leak
These videos come out in the evening for me when I normally can't listen right away, but it always gives me something to look forward to at work the next day! Thanks so much for all of your hard work! ❤
Hey EpicNate, I just wanna say thank you for making this content and keeping our spirits up! I have been going through hell lately with family but your videos help me so much! Thank you so much :)
Remember, you're never alone mate. If you need it there is always help available. Take care, and i hope things get better for you❤
24:35 "He wants you to be safe and happy. In other words, he loves you. :( "
I LOVE YOU TOO DOGMEAT! BEST BOYO AROUND!
I think your theory for s9-43 is a good one but I think it could be that child of atom you encounter in the qurst where you go into the underground part of the airport
I think dogmeat is a synth. Consider this: a synth escaped i stitue custody and is named along the same line Shaun is. They say it escaped near tge airport. I find it funny that then in Far Harbor you meet a super mutant at a plane selling dogs. He comments how he's never seen a dog like dogmeat before. The comic as inspiration adds to the idea of dogmeat being an inspiration to get Nate along his way. But as weve seen, dogmeat has a mind of its own.
Let's gooooo! Always look forward to these iceberg videos! I loved the Skyrim ones and can't wait to listen to these Fallout ones! ❤
Hey man! just watched the 2 iceberg episodes, when is part 3 coming? ;)
Working on a playthrough of fallout 4 while listening to this in the background. It helps makes the slower bits in the game more enjoyable, thanks for the video.
I've been listening to all of your videos while recovering from a concussion. Great video as always! Thanks for all the effort you put into them!
Amazing content as always Nate, I hope you do lore for starfield when it comes out! Your incredible storytelling helps me get through my daily boring desk job
I feel like Erik Todd Dellums tweets teasing his return was to do with his part of voicing Three Dog in the ShoddyCast's Fallout Storyteller series where he appears in multiple episodes.
Thank God Mystery Master Nate has returned! I'm so Happy.
About Zimmer, because in Fallout 3 you could kill Zimmer so they had to leave his existence ambiguous.
Missed ya Nate! Thought we had lost you there for bit. These FO icebergs are awesome!
The sea of tranquility conflict is when the humans landed on the moon a second time to mine it for resources. The Lunarians took it as an act of aggression and retaliated. The Americans took the Lunar Capitol with the assistance of Junko. The Watatsuki sisters, leaders of the Lunar Defense Corps were backed into a corner with most Moon Rabbit troops either dead or captured, eventually leading to Lord Tsukuyomi surrending. It was a really brutal conflict with Junko razing the Lunar Capitol afterwards. How could you forget this? She committed so many war crimes.
It's so sad that I have come to expect so little from Bethesda, that I expect any strangeness or mysterious happenstance to be just the developer's lazyness
Interesting thing about Dogmeat: if you skip past Red Rocket and don't him up, Nick Valentine summons him when needed for the main quest. Considering Nick is also a synth, it adds a little more fuel to the theory that Dogmeat is a synth.
You forgot about John Hancock wasn’t he a pre-war ghoul? He took an experimental drug before the war and turned into one he claims to be the first one ever made.
John Hancock was originally John McDonough, Mayor McDonough’s little brother who only became a ghoul after the ghouls were kicked out of Diamond City. I think you’re thinking of Eddie Winters, the mobster from Nick Valentine’s past who turned himself into a ghoul.
no you're talking about Eddie winters
For the bridge keeper mystery…i believe it is an easter egg that references the movie “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”.
In the movie there is a bridge keeper who asks king arthur and his knights 3 questions and if they get one wrong they are cast into the ravine below. The movie is hilarious, I highly recommend it!
In bed in agony unable to move... perfect timing for the man, the myth, the legend to post the second part to the fallout mysteries iceberg ♡
Hang in there m8. Hope you feel better soon.
I’m sick too homie 😂 this video was for sure a save
Three Dawg was originally going to be in the Sim Settlements 2 mod reprising that role. But Bethsidia told them no way.
An enjoyable video with a lot of interesting and intriguing bits of info! The bridge keeper, though, is a reference to Monty Python's Holy Grail, and is probably about as relevant to the series' plot as the crashed Star Trek shuttle.
For the duplicated raiders at the fishpacking plant, they could be synths, because in FO3 during the "Replicated Man" quest, the railroad agent gives you a synth component, which is only obtainable by killing a synth, but the synth it's from is very much still alive, so the railroad might have a way to remove synth components without killing the synth.
Oooh nice one. I’d forgotten about that. Thank you. The Makra Fishing plant mystery has been puzzling me.
I've had pretty much 12 hours bingeing nate i regret nothing
Something I've always thought about with the Institute (and sorta connects to the mysterious absence of Dr Zimmer) is why they never, in their 210 years of existence, decided to build another site to do their experiments elsewhere in the Fallout universe - a Site B if you will. If there is a Site B somewhere out there, I'm willing to bet that it's currently located in the same area that Fallout 5 is set in and that Dr Zimmer is currently residing there now that the original Institute is gone and could also be wherever these "high profile" units are located.
Wait... what if S-943 is Deacon? He goes everywhere and gets facial surgery often, according to his dialog with the Dr in Diamond City, so maybe his last sighting with his original face was at the Airport
Please, I need Part 3. Fallout mysteries are my drug now.
Love this series you're doing Nate! Keep it up! Oh, and hello from the newest member of the "family".
Welcome Fam
Your music always had such a familiar vibe, and now I know why. "football head"
I'm glad I grew up when I did
Nate has come so far on the internet!
If Dogmeat is a synth then he must be the one that escaped to the airport. That would put him closer to Quincy. And he would probably already be programmed to be friendly to Shain and anyone hes related to. Its just wierd that hes never recognized as such and hes definitely not put there deliberately since we can have him with us working against the Institute and they have no idea. And the Coursers never recognize him.
Sad you gave up on this series. As a long time fan of the channel I’ve been looking forward for part 3
I like to think this comment is what made him drop part 3
@@Ganymedia9 i doubt it but it’s a funny coincidence (one im not gonna complain about as part 3 was great)
@@charlotteforget9144 Probably not, but I'll give you the credit anyways haha
Awe man, it's gonna be brutal waiting that long for the next tier.
Really digging this series though so far
One day Todd Howard will tell us what he knows
I know YT is pushing short form. But I love your deep dives. Keep up the good work.
is there still going to be a part 3 and 4?
that's what I been hoping
Love these videos! Thanks Nate 👍
When are you going to do the rest of the iceberg?
Now would be a good time to release part 3.
Waiting for part 3
Honestly one of my favourite series on all of youtube. You are awesome!
hey nate love your vids so happy your back to fallout keep up the good work
I just wanna tell you, I really love your intros! They're always well thought out :)
Ummmm where is part 3 and 4 sir….. ❤
Just came out
ive never played any fallout games but ive been consuming this man's videos on their lore like crazy
Lmao
Part 3 nate?!?!!
Nitpick: The description of "Pickman's Model" wasn't quite accurate. Richard Pickman created horrifying paintings of ghouls (mythical corpse eaters, not Fallout mutants) and after he disappeared it was discovered that he had been painting them using actual living ghouls as models. He later reappeared in "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" having become a ghoul himself.
Yep. I don't even know how he got that wrong lol
What happened to the other tiers?
Love these icebergs! Glad ppl are still making fallout lore content
I'm new to your channel and wonderful storytelling. Also new to the game. Can you do the "Boston killer " story? All took place in the Boston Sewers. Thanks. This game rocks.
The bridgekeeper seems like an easter egg to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I always get stunned when I see nate's face. I for some reason I always when I hear him just picture glasses on him or just like nerd looking.
Agreed!
I havent seen anyone talk about this, but in the intro to fallout 4, there is a dog bowl that you can interact with and your character makes a comment, saying, "never gonna catch that dog", what if dogmeat is a synth replica of the dog.
so what about all the other dogmeats lol
@@mmraf1 I don't know
@@jonahvasquez7389 not only that but seems like dogmeat was already known around in fallout 4 by nick valentine, mama murphy, etc
Nate and Nora’s dog went off chasing squirrels cause his bowl was empty
Where's thw 3rd!!
It's here
I think the most likely explanation for Dr. Zimmer is that he was supposed to be part of the Far Harbor DLC, but was cut for whatever reason. That would explain why he was away from the Commonwealth.
Where is part 3???
It is out!
Guys im from the Future and i can tell u. Part 3 comes out in exact 1.23473736 years