This MLB player just got banned for life
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- One player is banned for life. Four more are suspended for a year. The mlb has had to investigate betting in earnest for first time in 40 years. I wonder why though?
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Gambling do be risky sometimes. What do you think? Is this even that big of a deal or is Rule 21 still as important as ever?
Gambling is never a good idea. Ppl get addicted to throwing their own money away. Players shouldnt bet, nobody should bet.
It’s definitely a needed rule. I have no problem with gambling. Yes some people take things too far but can say that about a lot of things. I feel bad for those addicted and should make help easily available for those who need it. End of the day it’s up to the individual to be responsible though. If the rule isn’t there it clearly compromises the integrity of the sport.
Gambling on your team and losing generational wealth for your family must be a fun topic once you get home
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well, on the brightside, he can bet on baseball without punishment now lol
@@BendyDHWith the ridiculous number of bets he lost, no LOL
MLB: Betting on baseball is bad
Also MLB: Lets look at the live odds here in the 7th sponsored by Fanduel!
For PLAYERS yes it is terrible. It compromises the integrity of the sport and the rule is very clear but gambling itself is legal and im ok with it imo. Players can bet on other sports just not on what they play in. Its up to the individual to have responsibility with it.
I genuinely dont get this. Its like if a brewer gets a DUI and they go "well what do you expect the team is named BREWERS and they play in MILLER park"
Like...those things aren't really related. No one is making the players do anything. They know better
"There are no standards,
like double standards."
American proverb
There is no double standard, these are adults and they all know the rule.
Two things can be true at once, MLB can be a hypocrite for getting into bed with National Sportsbooks, and guys can also be dummies for knowing the rules and breaking them. Having said that, I agree with any player proven to be betting on a game they are a part of (on the team) is ban worthy for life. But the guys betting on other teams in other leagues, a year seems too much for me. They won't be able to put this genie back into the bottle so it will be interesting to see where it goes from here.
And MLB wants a team to move to Las Vegas. SMH.
I’m sure if they weren’t caught now, Marcano and the others probably would’ve had trade requests to the A’s
Watch there be a casino or sportsbook inside the new Vegas stadium.
@@johnwray393they did that in the football stadium, I believe a casino would be a requirement there.
@@johnwray393you have to park at a casino to go underground to get there, keeps all the ethics inside
@@johnwray393 I think the stadium that Fisher has planned for the A’s is supposed to be half-stadium half-hotel/casino
When you referenced testing out punishment from parents, the first thing that popped in my mind was that old marijuana commercial.
"I learned it from you, dad!"
💯% Been saying this among my baseball purest friends for quite sometime, and how this has led to this sudden rise in gambling inside the game. Glad to see you address it.
MLB gets into bed with Sports Betting businesses...
Players use said businesses to gamble...
WHO WOULDA THUNK!?! LOL
It's a rule that all the players know.
It's obvious why they're not allowed to bet on baseball right?
Not saying Marcano shouldn’t have received a punishment of some kind but banning a 24 year old who hasn’t even played a full seasons worth of games yet for life because he was using the very services whose ad spots you are happily plastering anywhere you can fit them is just mind boggingly stupid.
He knew the rule. He broke the rule. Somebody had to be made into an example.
Zero tolerance policy for a good reason. He's a grown up and knew the rules.
Its obvious why theres a 0 tolerance policy to bet on a game you are a part of. It compromises the integrity of the sport. Those ads arent telling players to bet on their own games. Yes it sucks for him but the rule is clear and needed.
This poor man was just trying to make a buck. Lord knows the pirates weren't gonna pay him!
Trevor... you cant just retire from baseball and then release these beautifully edited and wonderfully produced videos. You're too talented. Its not fair to us normal folks
What I don't get is why, when all 5 bet on their organization, even as part of a parlay , only one of them was declared "permanently ineligible". I have a list of my least favorite words and phrases, and "lifetime ban"/"banned for life" is among them. "Permanently ineligible" - a Rose by any other name is still a Rose." (Capitalization of Rose and the pun are intentional. One of the biggest shames of MLB, in my view, is that the all-time hits leader, who also had many other fine accomplishments as a player, is not in the Hall of Fame.)
Gambling has always been a part of the game and I’m sure there’s been more players gambling on things they shouldn’t than just Pete Rose. The reason we’re seeing more and more players getting caught (and will continue to see) is because gambling is so much more regulated and monitored, which is a good thing. What’s happened to Marcano and the Raptors’ Jontay Porter just goes to show that the system works and that it’s not a matter of if, but when you get caught if you try gambling on your own sport.
But Manfred has a report saying that by selling data to MGM, people will only gamble that should
Makes sense to me.
Great perspective, Trevor!
It's hypocritical for MLB to be partnering w gambling sites given their checkered past.
I hope that revenue is being shared w the players and should be in a specific way separately from the TV deals as a way to deter players/personnel from participating.
Thanks for your perspective on this issue. I do think it ironic that MLB partners with and promotes different betting organizations. Oh yeah, GO OSU BEAVS!
Manfred’s courting of the casual fan will be the ultimate demise of MLB.
Manfred IS the demise of MLB! There I edited it for you!
I feel like there's gonna be a Mitchell Report 2.0, but for gambling
Love the series name Trevor. But seeing as you're a former pitcher, what do you think of calling this series Quick Pitch?
MLB network already has a segment called quick pitch
I have played in the minor leagues... I have gotten those speeches by the random front office person about gambling on baseball...
There is no excuse. We are not talking about kids copying a parents terrible behavior.
We are talking about grown ass men that are fully aware of the potential consequences related to betting on baseball.
As a pro baseball player you can gamble on literally ANYTHING ELSE.
The fact that players see gambling sites advertised everywhere is not an excuse...
They have to be above that...
Saw you on TSN overdrive yesterday, appreciated your insight into this betting ban and the Blue Jays from a players perspective!
Ty for pointing out this gross hypocracy of mlb going all in on gambling while expecting the players to abstain. Its promoted on every game and mlb network. If Mlb really cared about the game more than the $$, they’d see its their behaviors that will lead to players gambling. Mlb will continue to profit and PROMOTE gambling to anyone (even kids) who watch the sport.
Honestly idc if a player bets… especially if they only win 4.3% of the time
All these organisations want to get into gambling because the house wins the vast majority of the time. It's a license to print money for the gambling companies. Gambling is a mugs game, and statistically, the punter is always less likely than the house to win. Save your money.
I dunno. I kinda wanna be okay with betting as long as it's not with a game you're involved in, but I could also see that being hella abused and having people make bets on their behalf, asking players to -insert thing here- to potentially sway their odds for a cut, etc. In a perfect world it can happen without fault, but we all know this world ain't perfect. So I get why MLB would suspend people like this.
So I think players should be allowed to bet on games, but it's gotta be done in the right manner. Bets must be placed through the players union. The players union will evaluate bets to see if there's a conflict of interest (aka betting on your team to lose, taking negative performance bets on yourself, etc) before being placed. This way if I'm a reliever, I can't take the under 0.5 strikeouts on myself and then give up some nukes. Or be a position player and take the under 1.5 doubles and then just stop hustling out of the box. It can be done and it can be done right. This will keep more players in the game without losing them to silly things.
Or, they act like adults and control themselves and bet on anything else but baseball.
I love baseball, I don’t love baseball as much as I used to; MLB allowing legal betting on its game is bad for the game and will lead to actual games getting thrown. Not by the stars, but by the transient players, the umps, the guys who determine errors, and so on. At some point professional wrestling will be (perceived as)more legit than baseball unless something is done.
Betting becomes legal. Players start betting. Pretends to be shocked.
The thing is correlation doesn't equal causation. The correlation is that these scandals happened after MLB took them on as sponsors...but MLB only took them on as sponsors so recently because it wasn't even legal in many places, and there weren't really many big, reputable companies to do it with 10 years ago either.
I think its more likely that these people were going to start gabling regardless because it has been legalized in a lot of states and everyone has heard of/used Draftkings and stuff. Its just gotten popular the last few years. MLB advertising it I feel had basically no impact on that either. There are commercials and billboards and stuff everywhere
That being said I would be fine with gambling (and alcohol, obvs) being illegal to advertise like cigarettes are. But I also wont hold MLB specifically responsible for this.
I do think that MLB needs to take part of the blame here, they're almost begging for their athletes to bet on games. But something else that I haven't heard when it comes to these betting scandals, addiction as a mental illness. Just like people get addicted to drugs or alcohol, people get addicted to sex, food, sugar, betting. We just don't view it as a mental illness because we don't deem it on the same level as drugs or alcohol. But addiction is addiction, no matter what the addiction is. Instead of just banning these people, how about MLB tries to help with rehab??? They can afford it...
Is the MLB to blame if a player becomes an Alcoholic because he sees beer ads all over the stadium and tv. Heck they even sell booze where these guys work.
I get how it would be really hard to have it on the straight and narrow, but as a fan I wish every single player on my team would bet on their own team to win.
As long as it doesn't turn into how the NBA is going, it might be fine. Go look at how many more free throw attempts the Lakers take in games compared to the rest of the league the past few years. If the umps don't eject guys for minor things, miss balls and strikes, botch the replays because of "insufficient evidence", etc. You'll be able to tell something is up.
correlation doesn't always been causation. sometimes you actually got to watch the games. The lakers don't shoot 3s and when your guys are LBJ and AD there's gonna be a shit ton of banging around on the inside, something most teams don't do as much anymore.
The minor leaguers weren't banned for life because they were not on a major league roster at the time, not because they weren't involved in the games. Marcano was on the major league IL when he bet on the games, which is why he is banned for life.
This will continue to be a problem and will get worse. Eventually there will be another Astros 2017 situation (i.e. a tech guy will figure out how to listen to the other team's pitch com) and whatever team does it will also bet. The fact that you can bet not just on game outcomes but on individual plays will exponentially exacerbate the problem.
The ability to make millions of dollars playing a game you love should supersede the degeneracy of risking it all for some stupid 3 team home run parlay for $100 on DraftKings.
And if the MLB wants to partner up with these sites and promote gambling, they can. And MLB ballplayers are employees and should have to abide by their employers rules. No matter how ridiculously hypocritical they may be. IMO
I think all players should be discouraged from any betting. With the number of players in the league, it is inevitable that some are going to get addicted to gambling. That’s where the real problems will start.
Just my 2 cents as a person who also likes gambling. I think it should be treated like cigarettes, as in- no advertisements on TV or social media. Looking at the UK, the suicide rates due to young men gambling is a pandemic in itself.
Imagine being in the 1% of the people to ever play any childrens sport for millions or 10's of millions which is money anyone would trade their life for and betting on games just because you need a dopamine hit from outside of the sport you play. And then jeopardizing your whole career for it. This is what happens when the NCAA just allows Div 1 athletes to scuff their schooling just to keep them as a div 1 althlete or pull them out of school from other countries just to have them play a sport.
This MLB lifetime ban bought to you by FanDuel.
Would you still hand out a lifetime ban for a player who was on the IL for betting on his own team? It wasn't like the player affected the team and the outcome.....
Any issue with a retired ball player betting on baseball?
Why would there be? Unless they're still associated with the league, like a coach or something.
You have the years of experience in the game and clubhouse. I fell more players are gonna fall. Something about making more money seems to give a fake sense of being ok. Most ballplayers don't plan out their lives they react to everything. I know that from pitching in amateur baseball for over 40 years. Sad that MLB has lined up with all those betting engines.
It's just one of those things where its tough to say "Hey, rebuff betting!" when everyone and their mom is doing it. We live in an attention economy. As a professional sport you simply cannot afford to not participate where the attention is.
I mean this was an obvious thing to happen once they partnered with gambling companies. It’s only gonna happen more and more in pro sports. I’m like the only one of my friends who doesn’t gamble everyone does it.
all of this sports betting and the apps are getting out of hand
Expose the issue for MLB KINDA like Canseco (minus the names) and let them know the real shit that is going on. They still won't budge because there is too much money to be lost if they ditch Draft Kings and all these other awful gambling sites.
But now all you need is an interpreter! I didn't do it! He did!
Gambling is dumb. Guaranteed way to lose money.
It’s getting to the point where an acting player can’t be fans of any sport. You can’t watch sports without betting.
My system of gambling is to not do it. I have an addictive personality and ADHD. Meaning I have an extremely high chance of getting addicted and financially ruining my family. Which I don’t want to do. So I don’t put myself in that spot to ruin my entire life with an addiction.
Same. Same same same same.
The fact that betting is legal in my state makes my brain hurt. Weed is legal too and I love that. So I can't judge I think.
Thanks for giving us an insiders look at the life of a big leaguer, it is much appreciated. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom of things associated with the game that the normal fans aren't privy to. Love your stuff, wish there was more of it. By the way, I may die-hard Braves fan. Please come out of retirement, we need that big right arm in the bullpen!!
Are Major and Minor Lgers allowed to bet on Minor Lgs or other non MLB Games? Am I right in thinking that MLB players can bet on other pro-sports just NOT MAJOR LG GAMES?
It’s far from paradoxical. It’s simply hypocritical.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Ohtani's allegations on his assistant actually being the one who was betting. I'd love to know how he was able to access 16 million dollars of Ohtani's money to place the bets, with out his acknowledgment. Almost feels like someone is protecting the current golden goose of the MLB.
"Betting makes CENTS" you can take credit for that Trev
I don’t think Shoeless Joe was the leader of the Black Sox scandal. Research the name Chick Gandil.
Rose has some real Wonder like issues outside of his betting scandal, which shouldnt go unnoticed.
yeah, the gambling was a symptom, not the problem itself.
Can anyone explain why David Fletcher didn’t get any suspensions?
I think Betting is extremely overrated, we can't even do online betting in Montana. I'd like to bet but I also know the consequences that come with it.
Same in Washington. But eventually it'll be legal everywhere. Too lucrative for the companies involved, too many ways for the governments to make tax revenues.
I mean players shouldn’t bet on their own sport like that but they also shouldn’t get a life long ban for that🤷
Fully respect your take on it May, but I see this differently.
I think this video goes too hard in blaming MLB's partnership. The MLB getting in a partnership with gambling is just a drop in the bucket of how these gambling sites advertise. If the MLB pulled all its gambling ads, I don't see anything different happening today. Because all this stuff would still be pushed on ESPN or your local sports channel. You'd see it on billboards on the road. It's inescapable.
Gambling problems in the MLB are popping up because in general, it's became way more accessible for everyone to participate in.
Similar to you, I have zero issue with gambling itself and am comfortable with the legality of it.
I think what actually needs to happen though is the gov't needs to put heavy restrictions on how it can be advertised, similar to tobacco products. A random baseball player getting ejected from a league is going to be nothing compared to the wave of gambling addicts that the US is currently grooming.
I can totally see that. It was inevitable even without MLBs participation most likely
@trevormaybaseball Do you think there is a conflict of interest with ESPN covering professional sports and also now offering the BET ESPN Sports betting service.
And.... fanduels just bought bally sports streams for the games
This is only the beginning. I've been saying for years that star players and refs/umpires are also betting on games, but the leagues cover their tracks for obvious reasons. Put a tinfoil hat on me, but I still believe Ohtani had some involvement in the Mizuhara scandal. MLB did everything in their power to prevent their biggest star from the public scrutiny. Eventually, info is going to be leaked about a big-name player or ref/ump betting on games to eviscerate any and all credibility of a sports league.
Again though, they can gamble all they want. Just not the sport you are playing for. Not really a double standard with the league, just one of many rules you have to follow.
I do think the legal betting will make it easier for people to get popped with the paper trails.
I think outside the sport you play it's fair game in the sport you might have inside knowledge and obviously the game you play in is a hard line
MLB is giving mixed messages. But it’s all about the $
Dude, you should do something with Jomboy.
Advertising works, so players who are in parks will see a ton of it and will be more inclined to bet than if there wasn't tons of ads all around them.
Another thought, Bill Burr has commented a few times on the name the "Black Sox", that it is meant to distance the Chicago White Sox from the scandal since it is still a current MLB team. Do you think that using the Black Sox name rather than "the 1919 Chicago White Sox" is a push by MLB and the White Sox to try and keep the stink off of them since not everyone will know that relationship?
Of course! The "black sox" we're villains, but we don't need to worry about them anymore!
Gee wiz, it’s almost as if aggressively promoting sports betting increases players’ involvement in sports betting! 🤯
Betting is addictive and companies are predators. They should be regulated like cigarette companies: legal but disallowed from advertising. U.S. Americans lose BILLIONS A YEAR in sports bets. I don’t want full illegalization (we know how prohibition went a century ago) but this shit has got to stop spreading and being promoted. You want to bet, ok. Companies just shouldn’t be allowed to advertise their services
Why? Because any sport you can bet on is rigged😂 NFL for sure i mean taylor swift won the Superbowl. Whats next beyonce gonna win the NBA championship 🤡🤡🤡 more players in on this than you think
He did not bet on games he played in he bet on Pirates games while being on the inhured list as a member of the Pirates organization. Not even close to the same thing and he only bet for the Pirates to win.
all of this sports betting and the apps are getting out of hand
all of this sports betting and the apps are getting out of hand