You'd think that with all the money they charge, you get some various spacers with the kit. I was suprised the 39$ Moog ball joints come with a replacement bolt for the ball joint pinch, but the Whiteline bump steer kit didn't.
Thanks for the video man. Dude I gave up on the these for the rear. You have pry the end link with 2 washers already installed back to slide the a 3rd in. It’s crazy. The three washers plus end link will not fit with out doing this. This was actually in the instructions too. Called Perrin same instructions from them also, 🤦. Lol. I just put stock ones back on for now. Not sure if anyone else has had to deal with this? Thanks in advance, lol.
@@Smeedia I just realized I guess I have loosen the shock bolt which will decompress the control arm some to allow for spacer room. I hope that makes sense lol. 🤷🤦 I’m using the polyurethane bushings. I call them solid end links. Like your front but for the rear.
I have some parts installed from before the channel 😫 but these are them! www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-sti/suspension/braces/sti-support-front-kit-2015-sti#.XgV4ubeIbqs
What do you think about the whiteline front roll center bump steer correction kit. KCA313? A couple of people have recommended it but I want to get additional feedback before ordering it. I have a 2016 Subaru WRX Lowered on RCE yellows. I’m adding a rear Whiteline sway bar. Also considering bilstein dampers.
What fpr do you use? I have the cobb one and when idling I hear some sound that cycles on and off and seems to be coming from that area but I can only hear it from inside the cabin.
I'll check next time I'm in the car, Cobb Set the FPR for me when they tuned the car. They used their FPR which is an older GD FPR but they did it electronically
@@Smeedia hmm I had the car etuned after the install but idk if that is changed in that process. I'm asking him now. It only happens after car is all the way up to temp so it could be related to the coolant Idk. The engine bay is too loud imma need to buy a stethoscope 👨⚕️
What you're hearing is the fuel oscillations due to removing the stock FPR/damper lines. I hear it on my DIY fuel lines, similar to Cobb's, along with 1000cc injectors. It is totally normal.
@@admireinspire OCTurboJoe got it right on the money! Mine does the same, I've got the 1050 Cobb Injectors with their FPR and it's normal. I never really hear it over my exhaust but if the engines running with the hood open I can hear a little bit of it. I originally thought you were asking what my fuel.pressure was set to for some reason 🤣
@@Smeedia ya, we have a lot of the same engine and fuel mods. If you want to make a video installing forged pistons and con rods I wont be mad😁. I wont have the money til like june so you've got time.
I have the front and rear whiteline sway bars on my 2016 wrx. It was a world of difference. I wish I would have changed out the end links while I was at it. At least I’m on the right track with my upgrades lol
Hey Man, I know this video is a bit old now but was looking for some insight, I've recently installed the same sway bar on my 2015 STI which is lowered but still not very low, I'm having issues with the sway bar scraping on steep angles and bumpy roads because it sits so low to the ground but by looking it seems to be setup the same as yours, have you had any issues like this? Or have a fix? Love your vids thanks
Figured it out haha, turns out I had my endlinks upside down, got it fixed now, thanks alot for your help bro just had to rewatch your video a couple times and got it.
I’m having an issue with mine. Could bring to low make it to where I can’t get the sway bar ends over the tie rod? Or does it just take fenagling to get it right
Oh god 🤣 lol when the time comes you know I'll cover it haha when I end up doing the clutch I'm just going to pull the engine instead of dropping the trans
Great vid, I just did this and now I have a squeak, when I turn at slow speeds, did you grease anything on the front? The instructions didn’t say anything needed it, I used the whiteline to ends so they look close to stock shape just bigger. Any ideas?
Hey Friend, can you recommend 22mm Whiteline (F&R) on a ‘13 STI Hatch, instead of 24mm? I’m assuming your answer might be “bigger is better” but Whiteline offers a deal on 22s (F&R) with Endlinks. I do track twice a year and just looking to get less wagon feel. Thanks.
The 22mm is a great upgrade, factory is 20mm so your still getting a solid bump. I do believe that the front sway bar comes from the factory as a 22mm though
I don't know what year yours was, I probably missed it cuz I was kind of trying to seek in the video, but I noticed that the kit you have doesn't have that brass bracket that came with mine, that seems to hold the sway bar in place horizontally. Did yours just not come with that?
Didn't you say they were Whiteline end links? I'm confused are they whiteline or Perrin or just Whiteline sway bar with Perrin link's? Or did you mix the brands ?
I'm Looking at getting new sway bars for my 2019 STI, Can you tell me if these are solid or tube steel, I see the Perrin rear one is solid chromoly, but Perrin doesn't offer a front sway bar for the 2019 yet. Thanks in advance.
I just ordered that sway bar but I got the whiteline endlinks instead of perrin, is install for the endlinks going to be the same? And why did you go with perrin instead of whiteline?
Man, it seems way easier to remove that subframe brace. Can you pull the factory skid plate off without removing the front fascia? Did you re-install the skid plate before you re-installed the fascia?
Hey Friend, I’m curious if you or any viewer knows what mm a ‘13 STi front sway bar would be: 24mm like yours? Thanks in advance and another great video! 👍🏻
@@Smeedia thanks, I was going to buy a Whiteline Kit with two 21 mm bars but if my front and rear are stock 21 mms, I guess I’ll try a thicker rear first. Thanks again
Thanks for the diy on front sway just needed a visual I just installed mine today. What Ramps are you running I need to grab some to get my endlinks all tighten up 🤙🏽
Thank you for the reply! i wish i could come learn some stuff from you brother you rock my 18 sti is mainly stock just a AP and Cobb sf intake looking to do a AOS and Cylinder 4 cooling mod
Oh I thought it was 24 in the rear and 26 in the front for some reason my bad, has it been better to have it even I've heard it recommend to keep the rear stiffer?
With the chassis bracing I have and the bags it evens out pretty well for coilovers you'd want a little diffrent set up. Personally I prefer the resr to be stiffer as well as it helps reduce under steer 😁
Nice! I’m actually thinking about getting some endlinks since I just lowered the car. I don’t really have to much bump steer granted I don’t track or drive the car hard yet. But what would your recommendation be. Roll center before endlinks or endlinks? My 03 does have the stock endlinks with 137k miles.
Love the channel, man! 2017 WRX owner with a bunch of stuff about to go in as well.. Keep the videos coming man! Hope the channel blows up for you ASAP.
@@Smeedia So as of now, I'm stage 2 I guess. Pro-tuned, Process West TMIC, Grimmspeed EBCS, ETS Full Turboback (non-catted), Mishimoto Intake and a bit more. To go in next (already bought).. Flex Fuel kit, TGV/EGR deletes, Killer Bee Exhaust Headers with dual wastegates, and AEM fuel pump, STI Trans mount- and a few other smaller bits. Hoping for 400 WHP when all is installed and re-tuned. Suspension is next on the list- which is why this video was SUPER helpful, man! LOVE your Subie!
@@mikek9780 Sounds like a good list of Mods that you have going on, suspension and chassis bracing is what I am focusing on right now. But glad that the videos are helping you out and appreciate it! The STI has quickly become my money pit lmao
@@Smeedia Lol- every day that passes is a new purchase. It's a great way to spend some cash.. The addiction to these cars is real. Have a great weekend brother!
They should have given smaller spacers. Really annoying how Perrin and Whiteline manage to get the dimensions so ever slightly wrong on parts made specifically for a car that spans over a decade using the same sway bars
@@Smeedia Not a whole lot but its not that far. My uncle actually has an auto wrecking yard down that way though! Currently working on my 04 wide body RWD sti and just picked up a 17 STi I'll be doing some work on soon. Getting content ready to start a channel 2020
@@daveydoingthings Thats awesome to hear, ill check out the channel once you have some videos going up! Def down to set something up once you get rolling. What made you want to go RWD with the Blob eye?
@@Smeedia Sweet, yeah. Its actually hawkeye front end converted as well. Just wanted to build something different I guess. I've been working on it for like 7 years lol. I moved to CA 5-6 years ago and just moved back this summer so the car sat abandoned all that time. She's gonna take a lot of work to get back to show quality but it'll be fun shooting the content along the way.
Hey man I live in Washington as well and if you're ever interested in doing a photoshoot hit me up, I drive an 03 subaru forester. you can get in contact with me on Instagram @just_a_slow_forester. But thanks for the videos man their gonna help out when I buy my next subie;)
This is honestly the go-to soobie channel.
Appreciate the awesome feedback! 😁
definitely
in the body shops I worked at, we almost NEVER called it by its name, pb blaster. we always called it the nut buster. fun short story.
Nut blaster 🔥😅
Not gonna lie this is the very struggle bus I was going through out in the cold, tomorrow will be a brighter day after watching this video.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
You'd think that with all the money they charge, you get some various spacers with the kit. I was suprised the 39$ Moog ball joints come with a replacement bolt for the ball joint pinch, but the Whiteline bump steer kit didn't.
As a sway bar, Your instructional videos are very important for us. ✅
Please get a better illumination so what you say & do does not remain fruitless.
U made doing this job so much easier. U are the man
Great video buddy!! Love the channel, since its the only way i get to see you anymore lol. Cant wait for more!!!
Come up.to Washington ya nerd 😉
Thats one hell of a drive lol
Thanks for all the very helpful videos
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Very in depth install as always 🏁
Appreciate it 😁😁
Thanks for the video man. Dude I gave up on the these for the rear. You have pry the end link with 2 washers already installed back to slide the a 3rd in. It’s crazy. The three washers plus end link will not fit with out doing this. This was actually in the instructions too. Called Perrin same instructions from them also, 🤦. Lol. I just put stock ones back on for now. Not sure if anyone else has had to deal with this? Thanks in advance, lol.
Got damn 😳 which version if the endlinks were you trying?
@@Smeedia I just realized I guess I have loosen the shock bolt which will decompress the control arm some to allow for spacer room. I hope that makes sense lol. 🤷🤦 I’m using the polyurethane bushings. I call them solid end links. Like your front but for the rear.
How much difference did it do you the handling? You notice a huge difference?
this convinced me that I want to pay a professional to install my sway bar. 🤣
What are the JDM STI components that you talk about? Have you installed something and have not told us about it 😔
I have some parts installed from before the channel 😫 but these are them!
www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-sti/suspension/braces/sti-support-front-kit-2015-sti#.XgV4ubeIbqs
Mate you you deserve so many more subscribers your vids are on point I subbed can't wait for more content
Thank you! The support and feedback is greatly appreciated. Only been a few months of making videos. Have a lot more good stuff planned 😁
What do you think about the whiteline front roll center bump steer correction kit. KCA313? A couple of people have recommended it but I want to get additional feedback before ordering it. I have a 2016 Subaru WRX Lowered on RCE yellows. I’m adding a rear Whiteline sway bar. Also considering bilstein dampers.
Fantastic! I've always used super pro because it's a bit cheaper but it will 100% help with correcting suspension geometry
What ramps are you using?
question do I need to do a alignment after ?
No you do not 🙏 your not changing any alignment measurements. I.E Camber, caster, toe or height
What fpr do you use? I have the cobb one and when idling I hear some sound that cycles on and off and seems to be coming from that area but I can only hear it from inside the cabin.
I'll check next time I'm in the car, Cobb Set the FPR for me when they tuned the car. They used their FPR which is an older GD FPR but they did it electronically
@@Smeedia hmm I had the car etuned after the install but idk if that is changed in that process. I'm asking him now. It only happens after car is all the way up to temp so it could be related to the coolant Idk. The engine bay is too loud imma need to buy a stethoscope 👨⚕️
What you're hearing is the fuel oscillations due to removing the stock FPR/damper lines. I hear it on my DIY fuel lines, similar to Cobb's, along with 1000cc injectors. It is totally normal.
@@admireinspire OCTurboJoe got it right on the money! Mine does the same, I've got the 1050 Cobb Injectors with their FPR and it's normal. I never really hear it over my exhaust but if the engines running with the hood open I can hear a little bit of it. I originally thought you were asking what my fuel.pressure was set to for some reason 🤣
@@Smeedia ya, we have a lot of the same engine and fuel mods. If you want to make a video installing forged pistons and con rods I wont be mad😁. I wont have the money til like june so you've got time.
Honestly should have left the front sway bar stock and upgrade only the rear to help give more oversteer
Already have the rear one upgraded as well as all the chassis bracing in the rear. This was used to help even out the suspension a little more
Great video. Keep them coming....
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I have the front and rear whiteline sway bars on my 2016 wrx. It was a world of difference. I wish I would have changed out the end links while I was at it. At least I’m on the right track with my upgrades lol
Oh yeah, the stock endlinks can hold for a bit, but they just get wrecked over time
For sure. I’m getting a STI probably around this time next year and I’ll start working on that. There’s just a lot more options for it over the wrx
@@dannymota1912 danny did you get and sti?
Hey Man, I know this video is a bit old now but was looking for some insight, I've recently installed the same sway bar on my 2015 STI which is lowered but still not very low, I'm having issues with the sway bar scraping on steep angles and bumpy roads because it sits so low to the ground but by looking it seems to be setup the same as yours, have you had any issues like this? Or have a fix?
Love your vids thanks
Odd 😳
Never had any issues with mine hitting or rubbing the ground. Even when I was bagged. How low are you?
Figured it out haha, turns out I had my endlinks upside down, got it fixed now, thanks alot for your help bro just had to rewatch your video a couple times and got it.
I’m having an issue with mine. Could bring to low make it to where I can’t get the sway bar ends over the tie rod? Or does it just take fenagling to get it right
Gotta fanoodle it a bit to get it to fit
I would love to see a clutch install.
Oh god 🤣 lol when the time comes you know I'll cover it haha when I end up doing the clutch I'm just going to pull the engine instead of dropping the trans
Me too... hey @smeedia come install my clutch 🤣🤣
@@austinrydberg5850 lmao nice try 🤣 do not have the patience for that right now
Great vid, I just did this and now I have a squeak, when I turn at slow speeds, did you grease anything on the front? The instructions didn’t say anything needed it, I used the whiteline to ends so they look close to stock shape just bigger. Any ideas?
No grease, of your getting a squeak it could be from the endings not being fully horizontal or spaced properly when installed 🙏
@@Smeedia turns out I put the washer between the top hat and spring hat around the wrong way 🤦♂️ an hour I won’t get back.
Glad it was an easy fix though!
Hey Friend, can you recommend 22mm Whiteline (F&R) on a ‘13 STI Hatch, instead of 24mm? I’m assuming your answer might be “bigger is better” but Whiteline offers a deal on 22s (F&R) with Endlinks. I do track twice a year and just looking to get less wagon feel. Thanks.
The 22mm is a great upgrade, factory is 20mm so your still getting a solid bump. I do believe that the front sway bar comes from the factory as a 22mm though
@@Smeedia Thanks - I couldn't find the mm of the front. I'm guessing the rear is the most important, right?
Yessir 🙏
Very good video thank you!
I don't know what year yours was, I probably missed it cuz I was kind of trying to seek in the video, but I noticed that the kit you have doesn't have that brass bracket that came with mine, that seems to hold the sway bar in place horizontally. Did yours just not come with that?
I reused the OEM brackets and just replaced the bushings 🙏 no real need to swap them unless they're provided.
Or are you talking about the endlinks?
@@Smeedia no, if you look at newer white line kits, it has two little brass brackets that keep it from sliding side to side.
Didn't you say they were Whiteline end links? I'm confused are they whiteline or Perrin or just Whiteline sway bar with Perrin link's? Or did you mix the brands ?
White line sway bar with Perrin endlinks, personally I hate the whiteline endlinks, I've always had issues with them breaking
I'm Looking at getting new sway bars for my 2019 STI, Can you tell me if these are solid or tube steel, I see the Perrin rear one is solid chromoly, but Perrin doesn't offer a front sway bar for the 2019 yet. Thanks in advance.
They are solid steel 🔥 very strong and rigid
I just ordered that sway bar but I got the whiteline endlinks instead of perrin, is install for the endlinks going to be the same? And why did you go with perrin instead of whiteline?
Same same for install, and I've only ever had issues with the whiteline endinks. Ball sockets kept breaking on me 😤
@@Smeedia good to know thank you
DO U NEED A SWAY BAR IF U HAVE A TOP MOUNT PARRIN BRACE BAR ?? IN THE ENGINE
Yes, you'll see a bugger difference with sway bars than a strut tower bar
Should I use the same set up and size you have for the front and rear with Perrin end links on my 2015 sti? On stock suspension for now.
What are you going to be doing with the car?
@@Smeedia it’s my daily. And maybe some runs on the mountain and windy roads.
Just a 24mm rear sway should be fine for that 🙌🙏
@@Smeedia thanks man, appreciate it! Love your channel. 👍
Man, it seems way easier to remove that subframe brace. Can you pull the factory skid plate off without removing the front fascia? Did you re-install the skid plate before you re-installed the fascia?
I dont have the OE Skid plate anymore, I have a chassis mounted splitter but you can install it without removing the number.
Hey Friend, I’m curious if you or any viewer knows what mm a ‘13 STi front sway bar would be: 24mm like yours? Thanks in advance and another great video! 👍🏻
Stock is about 21mm 🙏😁
@@Smeedia thanks, I was going to buy a Whiteline Kit with two 21 mm bars but if my front and rear are stock 21 mms, I guess I’ll try a thicker rear first. Thanks again
Thanks for the diy on front sway just needed a visual I just installed mine today. What Ramps are you running I need to grab some to get my endlinks all tighten up 🤙🏽
They are auto zone Rhino Ramps, they've come in clutch for a lot of different jobs. Glad that the video was a help 🔥
What kind of ramp is that and where do you buy it!. You rock brother I’ve owned 3 subarus and you make working on mine so easy.
They're rhino ramps and you can get them at autozone or Amazon either option works 😁😁😁
Thank you for the reply! i wish i could come learn some stuff from you brother you rock my 18 sti is mainly stock just a AP and Cobb sf intake looking to do a AOS and Cylinder 4 cooling mod
Awesome 👍🏻👍🏻
Appreciated as always 😉
I was here before 100k subs!
why not cusco?? what are the differences between both brands??
Just pricz whiteline was cheaper lol
@@Smeedia I see, I was thinking of getting the cusco suspension package 📦, but I also haven't compared the whiteline yet 😅
@@Smeedia also thanks for all the videos you post i learn many things, I'm new to the subie.gang
Hlad the videos are helping and the qhiteline is a bit cheaper if i remember 🙏😁
What sizes of swaybar would you recommend for 05-07 wrx sti for daily?
24mm rear
26mn front
Sooo why did you have to remove the front bumper?
My splitter is mounted to the chassis and bumper so I needed to remove the bumper to get access to the sway bar
Why stiffer in the front rather than the rear?
I have the 26mm bat in the rear and wanted to level the way the car handled a little bit more
Oh I thought it was 24 in the rear and 26 in the front for some reason my bad, has it been better to have it even I've heard it recommend to keep the rear stiffer?
With the chassis bracing I have and the bags it evens out pretty well for coilovers you'd want a little diffrent set up. Personally I prefer the resr to be stiffer as well as it helps reduce under steer 😁
How was the handling difference afterwards?
Noticeably better, the car was very stiff in the rear and would occasionally oversteer a little so this definitely helped to even it out!
@@Smeedia Nice! I just put a 25mm Perrin on the rear of my STI. Installing a front sway bar next week to balance it out.
You'll notice a difference 😁
@@Smeedia Thanks bro! I am looking forward to it. So many mods to install. lol
@@Smeedia how stiff you put your rear sway bar, in the middle?
Where did you get that FMIC crash bar???
ETS has them on their website and I think rally Sport direct just started selling them, they're about $240 I think
Nice! I’m actually thinking about getting some endlinks since I just lowered the car. I don’t really have to much bump steer granted I don’t track or drive the car hard yet. But what would your recommendation be. Roll center before endlinks or endlinks? My 03 does have the stock endlinks with 137k miles.
If your running after market sway bars I would suggest swapping out endlinks first, if your still on the stock sway bar go for the roll center first.
Smeedia cool thanks bro. Great video again!
@@Kichizo_DJ appreciate the support!
Love the channel, man! 2017 WRX owner with a bunch of stuff about to go in as well.. Keep the videos coming man! Hope the channel blows up for you ASAP.
Appreciate the support! Whatcha got planned for the WRX?! 😁
@@Smeedia So as of now, I'm stage 2 I guess. Pro-tuned, Process West TMIC, Grimmspeed EBCS, ETS Full Turboback (non-catted), Mishimoto Intake and a bit more. To go in next (already bought).. Flex Fuel kit, TGV/EGR deletes, Killer Bee Exhaust Headers with dual wastegates, and AEM fuel pump, STI Trans mount- and a few other smaller bits. Hoping for 400 WHP when all is installed and re-tuned. Suspension is next on the list- which is why this video was SUPER helpful, man! LOVE your Subie!
@@mikek9780 Sounds like a good list of Mods that you have going on, suspension and chassis bracing is what I am focusing on right now. But glad that the videos are helping you out and appreciate it! The STI has quickly become my money pit lmao
@@Smeedia Lol- every day that passes is a new purchase. It's a great way to spend some cash.. The addiction to these cars is real. Have a great weekend brother!
What are the torque specs?
Good and tight 😅 not sure typically I just get em tight.
@@Smeedia haha alright sounds good awesome vid 🙌🏽
What size of spacer washers did you use on the links. I ordered the same sway bar
They should have given smaller spacers. Really annoying how Perrin and Whiteline manage to get the dimensions so ever slightly wrong on parts made specifically for a car that spans over a decade using the same sway bars
Dude for real!!! Not the first time I've had it happen 😤
You installed 26, not 24, extra concerned!
You should use arrows and circles instead of your finger lol
Have not quite found an arrow I like yet 🤔
Let's collab on some videos I'm in Lynnwood
Would be fun! Ever down in the luyallup area?
@@Smeedia Not a whole lot but its not that far. My uncle actually has an auto wrecking yard down that way though!
Currently working on my 04 wide body RWD sti and just picked up a 17 STi I'll be doing some work on soon. Getting content ready to start a channel 2020
@@daveydoingthings Thats awesome to hear, ill check out the channel once you have some videos going up! Def down to set something up once you get rolling. What made you want to go RWD with the Blob eye?
@@Smeedia Sweet, yeah. Its actually hawkeye front end converted as well. Just wanted to build something different I guess. I've been working on it for like 7 years lol. I moved to CA 5-6 years ago and just moved back this summer so the car sat abandoned all that time. She's gonna take a lot of work to get back to show quality but it'll be fun shooting the content along the way.
@@daveydoingthings Have an instagram? Interested in checking it out! my 07 STI was by far my favorite so Ive got a soft spot for a hawkeye
I think it's a car not a cart ;)
Got the best of myself in that one 😫 lol
Hey man I live in Washington as well and if you're ever interested in doing a photoshoot hit me up, I drive an 03 subaru forester. you can get in contact with me on Instagram @just_a_slow_forester. But thanks for the videos man their gonna help out when I buy my next subie;)
What Part of washington are you in?! I also shoot so would be fun to link up for a shoot! And of course! What's in mind for the next one? 😁
@@Smeedia I'm up in puyallup, but I'm willing to drive wherever to get some good photos. I'm thinking about an 04 wrx
I live downtown Puyallup 🤣 small world lmao
@@Smeedia wow, really is a small world
@@drewshell1775 for real I've probably seen you mobbing around before lol but I'm totally down!
Do you rec replacing LCA if I do coil overs? Looking at silvers or Fortune Autos.
Yessir, will help get your rear camber dialed in 🙏
@@Smeedia lol plan a mod but find out you need to get another 20
Happens to me all the time 😅😅