I like the fact that it comes with extra pieces to attach to the sub frame. Chassis bracing is important for handling. Looks like a huge improvement overall.
Those are the KBR-15. It does not come with them. I believe they're about $70. I couldn't get a pair that didn't come damaged from shipping unfortunately (not from rallysport, but it's whiteline's fault). They use a terrible coating and very poor packaging (one thin sleeve of bubble wrap around each one so they can easy bang into each other and chip away). Picture below is a brand new piece. flic.kr/p/nY3iLQ
BTroxTV The WHITELINE sway bars should all come wrapped in layers of bubble wrap, inserted in thick poly bags which are also inserted into sway bar box. In terms of packaging they should be much better protected then majority of aftermarket components and are typically applauded for higher quality packaging from our customers. From the picture you linked it looks like that coating was not applied correctly and probably defected from factory. Please email us at support@whitelineus.com so that we may remedy your issue. We go through a vigorous anti-rust corrosion resistant coating on top of a 3 stage powdercoat process. All of our sway bars come with a 3 year warranty and lifetime warranty on all elastomers. Please get in contact so we may investigate.
It makes a huge difference. Stock = ok... still fun... However with the 22mm at least... it really digs in the corners and the rear end just feels like a much higher performing car...it's pretty crazy. Most sway bars don't include the braces which really adds to the rigidity of the setup in my opinion.
Just wana say that im surprised i didnt find this channel sooner, i learn a lot from your videos! I like the quality of your content im definitely subscribing now.
On the 2nd Go, the driver did not attempt to replicate the same amount of force that was exerted on the 1st attempt. See for yourself by observing the cars relationship to the yellow line markings on the pavement. It may be feel "nice and tight on the rear end" but is it really outperforming the stock sway bar. I am sure this is a great product but your video is exaggerating a bit too much and given the lack of being consistent in testing I would be really upset if I was Subaru because you just called their design a total waste of effort. Or maybe I should give you some money for this part that will more than likely change the perspective of this video. There must be a tremendous amount of improvement, probably take corners at 2+ G's. lol
I’m about to put a 2inch lift in my 2012 Impreza (non-wrx). Would a kit like this be able to install the same with that lift being on it? Or would things not line up correctly due to the lift. The lift kit is going to have the subframe spacers as well. Aiming to get some extra clearance for forest roads but don’t want to have crazy body roll for daily driving.
Honestly just the swaybar alone will make a massive difference. Next I might suggest the steering rack bushings, and perhaps the rear diff/subframe and transmission inserts. those bushings will give you the best bang for the buck in regards to feel and performance. :) Thanks, Rick
That is a process west surge tank. We had this tuned on E-85 and this was before you could buy a proper drop in ethanol compatible pump that would support decent power, so we had to ran the surge tank to house a beefy walbro pump. Thanks!
+rallysportdirect Great video! I have a '13 WRX and will likely have this upgrade done ... wondering if you can tell me the best 18 inch wheel/tire dimensions, while not having to roll the fender. I plan on a coil over kit at some point that will drop 1 inch. I really want some wider tires and want to do it right. Thanks for the info, I will be shopping on your site.
Whiteline uses a very poor coating that I have personal experience with. I would strongly recommend looking at Super Pro swaybars (made in Australia) as they are the highest quality swaybars available (1mm think of coating alone). After my experience with Whiteline, I would avoid their coated products.
BTroxTV WHITELINE utilizes a anti-corrosion zinc process prior to a 3 stage powdercoating finish. I assure you this is much more than the market standard single stage powdercoat. That being said, if you have any issues please email support@whitelineus.com so that we may address any issues you have had with any products. Defects happen from time to time, please allow us the opportunity to ensure you are delivered the highest quality product possible.
+Chris Gallacher Add a larger swaybar in the rear, you can also adjust tire pressures and mess with alignment as well, but larger swaybar in the rear will be an easy solution :) Thanks, Rick
+Jamie Bollo I would generally recommend it for people who are new to racing or track events and want a bit of a safety net. Or I suppose it could come down to personal preference, I don't know many who prefer understeer but I have to imagine some are out there lol. Thanks, Rick
+RallySport Direct yeah because most of the videos i watch drivers prefer over to under steer because its more noticeable. I believe some manufacturers make there cars lean towards to oversteer. BUT each to their own, great vids by the way :)
I like the fact that it comes with extra pieces to attach to the sub frame. Chassis bracing is important for handling. Looks like a huge improvement overall.
Those are the KBR-15. It does not come with them. I believe they're about $70. I couldn't get a pair that didn't come damaged from shipping unfortunately (not from rallysport, but it's whiteline's fault). They use a terrible coating and very poor packaging (one thin sleeve of bubble wrap around each one so they can easy bang into each other and chip away). Picture below is a brand new piece.
flic.kr/p/nY3iLQ
BTroxTV The braces are included...
BTroxTV The WHITELINE sway bars should all come wrapped in layers of bubble wrap, inserted in thick poly bags which are also inserted into sway bar box. In terms of packaging they should be much better protected then majority of aftermarket components and are typically applauded for higher quality packaging from our customers. From the picture you linked it looks like that coating was not applied correctly and probably defected from factory. Please email us at support@whitelineus.com so that we may remedy your issue. We go through a vigorous anti-rust corrosion resistant coating on top of a 3 stage powdercoat process. All of our sway bars come with a 3 year warranty and lifetime warranty on all elastomers. Please get in contact so we may investigate.
Tom Phan Tom, it's the KBR-15, not swaybars. I'll shoot you an email when I get a chance.
"nice and tight on the rear end" giggle..
3:49 something flew out! what was that? lol
It makes a huge difference. Stock = ok... still fun... However with the 22mm at least... it really digs in the corners and the rear end just feels like a much higher performing car...it's pretty crazy. Most sway bars don't include the braces which really adds to the rigidity of the setup in my opinion.
100% agree. It really makes a massive difference! :)
Thanks,
Rick
What is your sway bar set up for front and rear?
Just wana say that im surprised i didnt find this channel sooner, i learn a lot from your videos! I like the quality of your content im definitely subscribing now.
The music, mixed with the quality/clarity overview of the product reminds my of Japan’s BestMotoring. Well done video. 👏👏👏👏
Does adding the sway bars and end links require an alignment? I’m thinking of getting 22mm front and rear sways with end links for my 13 wrx.
Love the music; and I’m considering getting this Gen STI as my next daily driver.
Hi
Just curious where do i get a mod to have the lights on as a DRL like in the video .. 2:10 .. ?
Good Morning, I have a question, can a 2015 STI rear sway bar fit a 2011 STI? oem
On the 2nd Go, the driver did not attempt to replicate the same amount of force that was exerted on the 1st attempt. See for yourself by observing the cars relationship to the yellow line markings on the pavement. It may be feel "nice and tight on the rear end" but is it really outperforming the stock sway bar. I am sure this is a great product but your video is exaggerating a bit too much and given the lack of being consistent in testing I would be really upset if I was Subaru because you just called their design a total waste of effort.
Or maybe I should give you some money for this part that will more than likely change the perspective of this video. There must be a tremendous amount of improvement, probably take corners at 2+ G's. lol
I’m about to put a 2inch lift in my 2012 Impreza (non-wrx). Would a kit like this be able to install the same with that lift being on it? Or would things not line up correctly due to the lift. The lift kit is going to have the subframe spacers as well. Aiming to get some extra clearance for forest roads but don’t want to have crazy body roll for daily driving.
Nice Video. I will replace my OEM Sway Bars with adjustable H&R Sway Bars soon on my 350Z
Awesome, you will love them!
Thanks,
Rick
I have a 2014 wrx besides swaybars should I replace any other suspension bushing or is stock bushings and upgraded swaybars fine?
Honestly just the swaybar alone will make a massive difference. Next I might suggest the steering rack bushings, and perhaps the rear diff/subframe and transmission inserts. those bushings will give you the best bang for the buck in regards to feel and performance. :)
Thanks,
Rick
What's the silver box near the steering rack ?
That is a process west surge tank. We had this tuned on E-85 and this was before you could buy a proper drop in ethanol compatible pump that would support decent power, so we had to ran the surge tank to house a beefy walbro pump. Thanks!
will these fit a 2012 legacy 3.6r?
Hay rick can you do an install video on an evo x
just curious as to why you would like the car set up to understeer?
i am entrigued,
cheers
+IZOK Yeah i know that,
but ricks saying he likes his car set up with more under then oversteer.
Im just curious as to why
trying to Drift
understeer is safer than over
Awesome video. Do you think you could do more videos on the focus st.
What about wheel tire size?
What rims?
That looked like a big improvement.
i really like the stance on the car, what are the wheel/tires dimensions and how much is it lower??
+rallysportdirect Great video! I have a '13 WRX and will likely have this upgrade done ... wondering if you can tell me the best 18 inch wheel/tire dimensions, while not having to roll the fender. I plan on a coil over kit at some point that will drop 1 inch. I really want some wider tires and want to do it right. Thanks for the info, I will be shopping on your site.
Still slightly too much lift in the front ..I’m going 27front to 22-24rear.
Lots of people go with that exact combo and love it :) You will have to let me know what you think of it when you get it installed!
Thanks,
Rick
Just getting into modifying cars and I am having a blast, but I have to ask what you mean by 27 front to 22-24 rear end ??
@@jesseclark2805 27mm and 22 or 24mm diameter sways
How much was this kit?
I heard its good to paint the sway bar to prevent rust and corrosion, is this true?
Whiteline uses a very poor coating that I have personal experience with. I would strongly recommend looking at Super Pro swaybars (made in Australia) as they are the highest quality swaybars available (1mm think of coating alone). After my experience with Whiteline, I would avoid their coated products.
BTroxTV WHITELINE utilizes a anti-corrosion zinc process prior to a 3 stage powdercoating finish. I assure you this is much more than the market standard single stage powdercoat. That being said, if you have any issues please email support@whitelineus.com so that we may address any issues you have had with any products. Defects happen from time to time, please allow us the opportunity to ensure you are delivered the highest quality product possible.
Fuck u Ben.... Whiteline is the best! ROTFL.....
@Rallysport Direct hey rick what was the wheel/tire set up in this video in terms of dimensions, and did you use spacers?
+diamondx77 They are Work Emotion CR-Kai Ultima in 18x10.5 +22 and no spacers :)
Thanks,
Rick
DO THESE NEED TO BE TORQUED DOWN WHILE THE SUSPENSION IS ON FULL LOAD?
+Nbr1PHaN yes, ideally you would want to have a bit of load on the car when installing them and torquing them down.
Thanks,
Rick
Excellent video
god I wish I had a hoist
"For the life of the bushing" what he doesn't say is the life of the bushing is 3x shorter then of the ones you grease ;P
How would u give car a bit more oversteer ??? I have tein flex coilovers an im thinking of getting these for my 370bhp 2005 wrx, Thanks
+Chris Gallacher Add a larger swaybar in the rear, you can also adjust tire pressures and mess with alignment as well, but larger swaybar in the rear will be an easy solution :)
Thanks,
Rick
That's a great review
Thanks!
Rick
just curious as to why you would like the car set up to understeer?
i am entrigued,
cheers
+Jamie Bollo I would generally recommend it for people who are new to racing or track events and want a bit of a safety net. Or I suppose it could come down to personal preference, I don't know many who prefer understeer but I have to imagine some are out there lol.
Thanks,
Rick
+RallySport Direct yeah because most of the videos i watch drivers prefer over to under steer because its more noticeable.
I believe some manufacturers make there cars lean towards to oversteer.
BUT each to their own,
great vids by the way :)