Worst Jeep Mods || Don't Buy!
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Today we put together a list of 5 mods that we cannot stand! Yes to each their own but we hear all the time from our customers and audience about these mods and wanted to share them to see how accurate they are. If there are any mods that you think should be added to the list, let us know in the comments.
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they dont have anything for my jeep. =\
Why am I here... I drive a Corolla
Corollas need love too!
@@TrailBuilt 33's and a 2 inch lift ftw!
Reminds me of Kevin Spacey in American Beauty. Get whatever is your ‘79 firebird already!
Whats stopping you from putting jeep mods on it?
Its a sign, brother
I don't shit on mall crawlers or anyone's cosmetic accessories. The whole point of Jeep customization is to customize it the way you want. I look at it the same way I look at motorcycles, ride your own ride.
Right. Not everybody desires to go off-road some buy a wrangler for the ability to take the top and doors off in a hour.
I agree with you. One of the most capable off road vehicles in the world is the Mercedes G wagon. 3 factory lockers, horsepower for days, high clearance, good handling. Yet 99.9999% of them are mall crawlers. Why shouldn't they be? I wouldn't want to damage my 100K toy either. Get a 5000$ used jeep then beat it like it owes you money.
A Jeep is an off-road vehicle if you can’t go and don’t want to go off-road maybe you should buy a street car like a Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Honda, etc. If you want to have a vehicle that can take the top off buy a convertible, there are many convertibles the same price if not cheaper then a Wrangler. Don’t think I’m trying to say that you have to go off-road if you have a Jeep, it is really cool to be able to take the top off in 40 minutes to an hour. I’m just saying it would be cheaper to invest a street vehicle not made for harsh environments. I love my Jeeps and they’re great for street use.
@@cablenowadays6586 you mean in 25 mins... ;)
@@ch3z326 I mean I don’t get the point on why you give a fuck on what people do with there money
Fairly new to the Jeep community; but one thing I’ve learned is there are a lot of great people, and some that love to pass judgement
Well I mean if you buy a jeep for off roading its good to be informed all the mall crawl mods will hurt you off road and waste money. Many, many guys actually believe giant wheels with thin tires are just as good off road..
The off road community in general is pretty great every community has it assholes but overall it's great
@@wtftony9975 true that. I believe the majority are great folks though.
@@a.common.American disagree just when people say other vehicles can off-road harder
The ones that pass the most judgement are the ones that can't have.
35" tires, with a beefed up Dana 30, (axels, truss etc), and a rear trutrac limited slip is a great solution to light to moderate and even occasional aggressive wheeling. Which is what most of nearly everyone in the off road community does.
I agree on beefing up the axle, but if you're buying a jeep and can find something with a 44 just go with that.
Agree. I have friends that have wheeled their 30 for years without any issues. The trick is they know how to drive.
Wait til your buddy wrecks their rubicon showing off and swap your 30 for their 44 before the insurance picks it up, grab the t case while your at it, they dont check parts.
i know this is an old vid but just came across it. i like this channel in general but i am disappointed to see the Dana 30 hate just to maybe sell a 44 or two off his site. It's ridiculous. A modern (post 2012) 27 spline Dana 30 is absolutely fine for 35s. Not merely "acceptable" etc., but stout and trail worthy. If you have a Rubi or Willys with the 44s front and back great. But if you don't, and you don't live in Moab lol, then the only reason to drop the absurd amount of money on going to the 44 (with it's added weight) is if you're running 39+ and need to go to 5.38 at the diff. The 30 tops out at 5.13.
I figured he would top the list with "angry eyes"... I wasn't even aware there was an aftermarket grill that makes your Jeep look like a train.. lol
Think it's called the grumper grill
Lol I don’t think anyone did
I see that "fitment industries" vibe with all the wheels in the background😂
Except we do Jeeps, Toyotas, Trucks & SUVs
Lol, RIGHT! Because I’m pretty sure you can also buy Wheels from FI for an SUVs/Trucks
@@Zachnotfickle it's just a joke,chill🙄
@@turbotoaster275 I know I know, I was just agreeing with the guy above. It’s not a big deal it’s just interesting to be fair. But, no problem here.
I have a Dana 30 with 35” tires and locker, and have ran Moab along with other Jeep Jamborees and no problems. When something breaks ill replace it with a 44.
@@MrJoshcc600 If the Dana 30 was in issue from the start, the Jeep would've thrown a Dana 44 under the them from the beginning. The dana 30 has been around for so long, the only way you can break a Dana 30 wheeling it like and idiot.
He hasn’t really wasted that money on a d30 locker and gears IMO. It sounds like he has gotten good use out of them so far and there are plenty of guys like me with $600 XJs who would snap up a second hand d30 locker or gear.
@@GDLutz I agree. They say work smarter, not harder. I translate to wheel smarter, not harder. I got a lunchbox in my D30, under a 2000 XJ on 5" lift and 35's. When I had to meet the wife at the mall today so I could try on some boots (I hate new boots, nobody ever has a size 14) and I had to give her the debit card, who doesn't hate that? I made sure I found a good mud hole to play in first so I didn't look like a mall crawler. Perk for me is the local mall is on the river, I drove down to the riverbank and found a good marshy area and ripped it up turnin my silver XJ brown.
@@GDLutz where do you find $600 XJs? I'd snatch one up in a heartbeat. The only ones I ever see are $5k or more or junked ones with no title.
@@Hertacles Craigslist
I my XJ was pretty rusty and trashed, but I paid $600 since it was a 4.0L with the 5speed manual.
I also bought another one for parts for $300 that had rear ended someone and was bent in the front. Had a full good drivetrain, an immaculate interior and LOTS of other good parts.
I’ve not made one good XJ from the two and have lots of spare part too. Not bad for $900 total.
Thank you for stating how important it is to have the proper tire and wheel set up for off roading (as well as towing/hauling), and not just have a 20-24 inch wheel and some rubber bands on them.
One thing I didn't hear you talk about was having wheels that are wider than the tire is, and how that is unsafe/dangerous. You did show some like that though.
Yes he did.
Agree on all counts. My choice for worst mod: any form of angry eye grilles/bumpers/whatever. Why, just why!
Freedom of choice?
@@frankcastle9691 Good answer. Got a little carried away on that one!
Big bro dozer wheels are worse because they actually reduce functionality imo, I'm not a fan of the angry eye grills that stick out super far but I think a few of them are tolerable.
I love my angry eyes. With the fenders and bumpers and rock sliders it just brings together that aggressive look. I get compliments from a lot of people. But for some reason the jeeple hate on them
@@legitdelirium3446 Like Castle says, freedom of choice. Not my thing, but if you dig it, go for it.
I agree with almost everything, and I 100% agree with #5.
Only problem with this list is the assumption we all have thousands to dump into our rigs. I run a d30, and will probably add a Lunchbox locker. My rigs a cheap XJ, and I don’t see any reasons to spend 3x more than I paid for it on a front axle upgrade when I can run my D30HP and just put a few $ into it here and there as I break things.
Amen to this.
I've owned 4 jeeps, cj5, cj7, wrangler 4 door and jk rubicon now think I liked my 304 cid cj7 the best for having fun without worrying about damage. All summer just under tauno top, no worry about rain inside or mud, etc. Just fun hunting and fishing. That's what jeeping is for me fine without all the Fancy stuff
Dam four tries and you still missed getting a TJ? TJ is peak jeep.....
"Buy once, cry once"
As someone that goes off-roading quite a bit it disappoints me when my fellow Jeep folks view Jeeps as off-road only vehicles. Giving no value to a Jeep that is built for the road, or built for cruising. I grew up in parking lots looking at cruising classics and drag strips with muscle cars as much as I did a dirt trail. It honestly wasn’t until the early 2000’s that I really saw anyone in a Jeep take off-roading seriously. Until then it was classic pickups with a 6” lift and good mud tires.
Maybe ease up the next time you think the only value to a persons Jeep is used on an off-road trail. If it’s someone else’s car, it doesn’t have any value to you anyway.
My dad used to run a hp Dana 30 on his xj with 35s and 4.56 gears and it ran perfectly fine until he sold the jeep. Keep in mind that the Dana 44 in the front of jk’s have the same weak outers as the Dana 30 so they’re only marginally stronger. Most of the damage I see from Dana 30 axles are in the knuckles and not the ring and pinion. If you’re swapping out for a Dana 44, get a true Dana 44 or just go 1-tons
Does your dad know that you're gay?
The rubber band tires crack me up. We were in deep blowsand and we came upon an abandoned mall crawler with beautiful 22 inch wheels and tires about 1/2 inch high. The issue that we could not figure out was how he got stuck, it was flat. But the Jeep looked good but would look better on the road.
should have stripped it for parts . its abandoned so fair game
@@cordellej 🤡
Running 33s on my TJ for several years on stock Dana 30s and no problems. Offroading with no issues.
What's wrong with going to the mall in a Jeep. It's a vibe and to each of their own. Can do whatever you want with your own hard-earned property.
there's 21 guys out there running the fake grill, obviously!🤣🤣🤣
I watched this just to hear you say “angry eyes head lights mod” but you didn’t say it :/ i respect all jeep owners (me being a 3rd gen 4Runner owner) except those that have those stupid fucking angry eyes.
I was waiting for that too! I'm not a jeeper but there are 3 jeeps on my street and all of them have angry grilles, angry headlights, and flashing rainbow lights... 2 of them have big pizza dish wheels (that are chromed and painted too). All these jeeps have more painted parts on them than my damn truck and car combined... I just dont' get it. Bros have turned Jeeps into the new Honda Civic.
Thank you omg. As a TJ owner nothing makes me cringe harder than seeing those stupid fucking angry face grilles. No Jeep modification in the history of Jeeps is any worse than those.
Angry eyes gang 😤✊💯💦
I’m not a fan of the Angry, but to each their own. Jeep’s are for personalization so who am I to judge. I only care about functional modes to make sure I can go farther.
4 runners are the rejects of the n family...
the part that i broke the most on my d30 is the outer axle.. and its the same part number as the d44 one! upgraded to cromo shaft with extreme spicer u joint (no needle bearing) running 35 krawler with dual t case.. im not light footed but i try to keep the jeep light
I have been a Jeeple all my life and have never been more disappointed in my fellow Jeepers than when I bought my 2017 JKU. I just turned 50 and had used my 92 YJ as my daily, my 86 Cj7 as my hunting rig and my 79Cj 5 as my beast crawler I'm somehow demoted to "Mall Crawler" status for wanting a little more comfort and a different approach to modifying it. My daughters got the angry bird grille for it and colored door handle inserts and grab handle kit. I took the anodized red on black color scheme over the rest of the vehicle, wiper arms, D rings and Fuel Stroke 18in wheels on Falken rubber. Funny how I'm Joe Cool in my 79 or 86.
Personally think the grumper has the same effect as armored fenders. While more practical, its all about the “armored” look for me personally. But can agree with every single other one to a T.
I don’t see the hate on the front grills I think it’s cool and cost efficient to be able to mod your car in that way.
Remember folks jeep rule number 4. Only buy parts approved by internet experts. Youre not allowed to buy what you want.
Lol love this comment. I’m about to get a jeep and I can’t wait for all the jeep owners to judge me for getting an angry grille and red halo lights. God FORBIT anyone built what they like lol
(Mic drop) well said, Mr. Castle!
Of course the punisher guy says this
I guess you'll look cool stuck on trail with a broken axle, busted bead, and enough lights to signal batman for help.
@@ivanfromtheeast4709 LOL, nailed it
Modding a Jeep is a hobby in itself, nothing wrong wanting to mod it to only please yourself.
I have a Jeep and I hate when people dont wave back😭
Lol I never wave
I wave when I can.
Bro dozer is a fantastic description. What really gets me annoyed is when people use oversized tires and complain about fuel mileage and handling issues at 80mph. Jeep actually makes a vehicle for that application and a Wrangler isn't one of them.🤣
How many times can we squeeze an add for the website in here????
I don't know, but have you checked out our website at www.trailbuiltoffroad.com yet?!!!
@@TrailBuilt LOL, touché
About as meow,!
He could have at least 3 more times, I'm sure 😂
Do I have a jeep?
No
Do I keep watching all these jeep videos?
Yes.
Do I hope to have a jeep some day?
🤞🏼
I'll be honest, lights before lockers is one I cannot agree with. Lights are so much more useful than lockers, and in so many more situations, that they make a lot of sense as one of the very first accessories to add to any vehicle. A spotlight and foglights is useful even on a vehicle that never leaves the road.
Agreed. Sure you have that sense of comfort when life takes you off the beaten path. 1 week of owning my jeep and I was led by GPS a few miles down a dead end dirt road in the woods in NH. Drop offs on either side. very sticky u-turn situation and man-o-man was it dark. The new LED group upgrade for the front works great, but backing up... no light at all on the OEMs.
Lol no . Lockers night and day difference.
This is for jeep mods not mall crawlers. Lockers are #1.
@@matthewanderson6767 lmao wonder how the military keeps ever got by without lockers or cjs for that matter. Oh yes the people driving actually knew what they was doing. Logic over lockers any day
The original ww2 jeeps were small and light enough that soldiers could get out and push or pull the jeep out of a lot of stuck situations.
I'm doing mostly stock on a 2014 - got a cheep angry eye grill for the daughter, and some multicolor halo headlights that shine into everyone's cabin as I'm cruising down the road (everyone hates me at night).
That said, I've done some climbing, but that's not mostly my thing. Basically, I take it into the woods, hit the mud bogs and the tight trees hard, and take it off road into unexplored territory, and probably step on the gas too much. I've had a tree branch take out my front fender, and the beautiful interior of my Jeep looks like someone with a mud sprayer and went nuts inside the vehicle.
That said, I have no idea what anything in this video is talking about - and while rock climbing is pretty cool, Mountain climbing through the trees, and hitting huge muddy areas at 30mph is a lot of fun (also, really expensive for body work, but whatever).
I also hit the river beds and the bumpy roads hard, making my passengers hit the ceiling and flop around like rag dolls... Pretty funny, actually.
Bottom line is you don't need a billion mods to have a good time. In fact, you can just tell by looking at them, that most of those beefed up vehicles haven't seen the grass, let alone an offroad adventure...
Been wheeling a dana 30 in the front for 43 years... with 35" tires the last 10 years - there is nothing wrong with the dana 30 at all???? This is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard you say!!!!
Agreed...I too have a dana 30 with 35s stick shift...no issues...I did replace ball joints and tie rod and front track bar to Teraflex...but only after 100k...got 73k on the new stuff and is holding up great...greaseable and rebuildable...stay muddy my friend.
I agree with the desecration of the front of the Jeep but out where I live grumpers are necessary as you'll be replacing your front end often with how many deer are hit. Grills just don't do it.
In fact I hit a deer heading home right after I made this comment. lol 😆
Dayuung!
The Angry Eyes grille just doesn't look good in my personal opinion.
I’ve never understood the angry eyes / grill replacements. I mean, I understand cars as a hobby and we all love modifications, but I personally would never do angry eyes or replace the Jeep grill with one of those things.
Angry eyes and grill replacement is the worst.
And it makes my TJ run Hotter, but I do like the fact that I don't have to clean bugs out of my Radiator fins, and it stops loose rocks from damaging my Radiator!,besides, for 30 bucks, I couldn't pass it up,what can I say,my 1st Jeep,at 57 years old (me) Jeep is almost 21yrs old
I like them. I'm getting one in the Spring.
I like the grill Well at least the one for the new Gladiator by fabfours
I want happy eyes. Where they at? Why can't we give our Jeeps the ol' Herbie the Love Bug kinda vibe? 🤭
I'm not a jeep guy at all but what's the difference between putting light bars and chrome wheels on a jeep and doing the same to a 2500 diesel truck that only goes back and forth to work and the grocery store? Let people live.
Edit: UNLESS ITS A SQUATTED TRUCK!
No difference! You can put some chrome wheels and a light bar on a honda civic if you want!
The only thing I would point out is that you can’t tell if that 2500 pulls a trailer or not or whats in the bed. you can heavily infer a mall crawler is a mall crawler.
Your point is valid who cares but you dont actually know what is in that pickup or what it was doing 5 minutes ago. A truck though, its more about style, the mods dont inhibit its use as a truck. A jeep with wheels like that? No way are they smashing those into rocks.
I am in the heavy equipment/mining industry and everyone has truck albeit few are bro style. When I have 5,000 lbs of cutting edges in the bed of the pickup and its a stack of steel 6-12” high, sometimes I think about how NOONE has any idea that there is 5,000 lbs worth of steel in a stack with the gate closed because the truck looks normal. The time this comes to mind is when that civic cuts me off with all that weight as payload, I doubt that same civic would have been so aggressive if there was civic was sitting on top the bed rails as an obvious load. You might give that guy a bit more space but that civic is much lighter than this stack of steel that you cannot see...
As to the bro style, my old neighbor hot-shots with a Dodge Ram, he has the wheels and the headlights and grill, to each their own. You could not be more wrong if you are implying that his truck does no work. It does nothing but pull heavy loads on the highway when someone needs something now.
Regardless of the mall bro controversy, all I want now is to get the ugly jeep train mod, but I will refer to it as a deer (or drug cartel road block) repellant, enhances safety when combined with other mods like limb risers or if you're a little crazy, solid steel, external roll cage protection all around the jeep. Quite top heavy. Maybe not practical for very technical off road adventures.
I like those train front grill bumper combos, and I payed for the Jeep, soooo is in the way now
I have never seen one of those angry eyes grills in the wild. Please Lord keep me pure.
Some of us buy used jeeps and are stuck with the *ahem* Bro grills until they can afford to put on a more factory style grill. I, for example, have recently purchased my first Jeep. It's a 2015 JKU with a "Shark" grill with "Angry Eyes". it's easily my least favorite mod, but the smittybuilt bumpers, 2.5" lift, Pro Comp 17" wheels 315/70R17 Mickey Thompsons make up for it. When I can save up enough, I'm getting a factory style grill (painted flat black) and swapping it out. As far as wheeling goes, I'm a novice at best, but I'm not going to crap on someone else's tastes or skill level. That's what chases people away from the Jeep Community.
That said, the wheel and tire recommendations are incredibly useful. What you didn't mention was the impact on drivability when you go big and lifted. Highway speeds on "not so perfect" roads becomes a little sketchy at best, terrifying at worst.
37's on my 15" rims... Rides like a corolla on the road and claws rocks.... 81 CJ, OM617, Dana 60's.
I love what my lifted 4 door '14 JK can do on 37s and a winch❤ Rubicons rock! Front and rear strait axels are a must here on the Yukon the independent suspended vehicles expire pretty quick when exposed to terrain found here in Alaska especially in cold weather.
Lockers are so expensive . Lights are like 100 bucks.
Limited slip does well enough
@@trexthepony8614 there is no reason at all to elect to install an LSD when a proper locker is relatively the same. Another positive to not having an LSD is lunchbox lockers.
@@danh8302 Yeah, but if your jeep came with a LSD rear, might as well take advantage.
Auto-lockers are under 300 normally. You can install in your driveway in a couple hours if you have basic tools and mechanical knowledge.
ITS YOUR JEEP YOU CUSTOMIZE IT HOW YOU WANT
Power to the Jeeple! ✊🏻
@@TrailBuilt I’m gunna start saying that now XD
@@TrailBuilt lmao that made me laugh😂
I refuse to wave back at angry eye jeeps
Communist!
Frank Castle LMFAO. I’m full of shit. I wave at any of them. As long as they aren’t a Renegade of course
I refuse to wave at any jeep. You want to wave at someone, buy a motorcycle. The jeep wave is one of the worst part of ownership. Especially since you know as soon as you pass each other, you are saying all the things you don’t like about each other’s jeeps lol.
@@lukelambert4595 We XJ folks only wave to built XJ's. 🤪
@@dmelson7502 lol! Well, XJ’s are the coolest so you gotta keep a tight circle. When I had mine, I didn’t have two nickels to rub together so “built” wasn’t an option. Just a totally stock ‘99 Cherokee classic. Wish I still had it. Sold it to buy my dads TJ. I’M SUCH AN IDIOT!
I really do hate people that bash on others choices for their own stuff. Dude, it's not your jeep, get over it. They can do whatever they want. Not everyone has the same goal for their jeep as you. If they just want to look cool, thats fine. If they want the thing for snowy roads, cool. Get over yourself.
Dirty 30’s on 35’s with a G-bomb all day long my friend. I go everywhere a new Rubicon can go and it doesn’t hurt when I scratch or dent my $2000 shitbox Cherokee. Dana 30’s can be made tough if you do it smart. Tubes, truss, almost alloy kit, C gussets, Volvo LSD, WJ brakes.
My input. DO whatever the fuck you want with YOUR rig and YOUR money You want bling bling cool You want hydros on your TJ? Cool. You want 15k stereo system, cool. One thing I learned is I buy shit to please me not anyone else
I had 15-inch wheels on 35's. that was the setup! man, even on some really gnarly stuff it took it all. never had an issue. also if you're looking for wheels get ahold of team Illuminata racing/ braid wheels in Birmingham MI. Paul is a great dude and makes the best off-road racing wheels in the world. all custom for less than most anything else you can get, he makes the wheels for my rally car
same i run 15” wheels on 35s and it’s on a dana 30 with RCVs and a truss and gussets then a stock 8.25. Thing just eats and over anything. Also love the thick tire look
It may seem controversial to do this video and you guys already made your disclaimer that people can do what they want to their rig. But...this is a channel for the off-road crowd, therefore content, product suggestions and perspective is going to be tailored to those of us who...off-road. A large number of mods people add for show, have no application on a purpose-built off-road vehicle. But, telling people what they want to hear just to ring the cash register is unethical, and it does not do people service when they get out on a trail and learn the hard way. And in my opinion, you guys are being honest. Better to be upfront rather than tell people what they want to hear. One or two product call-outs I didn't necessarily agree with because they don't interfere with off-road performance. But overall I get it.
Hey you need lights so the tow truck can find you easier at night when your frontend breaks!! 😆 🤣
We have a 15’ JKU that I consider a pavement princess. 17” Method NV’s/35” K02’s on a 3” suspension lift (springs). We just like the look. I personally can’t afford to take ours off-road and tear it up 😂
Good vid. My input is that I bought a Body Armor rear bumper and tire carrier. It’s nice and beefy but the bearings on the pivot post are way under sized. The movement of the tire carrier crushes the bearings. Contacted the manufacturer and they say it’s not a problem even though I met another owner that has the same issue. Please don’t make the same mistake we did.
Stock JK 30 tubing is the same as a 44. People complaining about tube bending on D30s should know that d44 stock can bend the same way. Weak point is the ring and pinion. Chromoly shaft it, 35” tires, be smart with your Petrie, and call it a day.
I’ve bent a 44 tube before that being said, I cant say that hear people complaining about bending tubes enexpectedly (that implies to me you were not abusing it; if you were it wasn’t the axles fault). I’ve broken Ujoints and shafts on 30s but never a R&P. I’ve also broken u joints and shafts on a D60 front. You know, I’ve actually broken 2 ford 8.8 shafts and those are beloved by jeepers.
My scout came with a D30 front and drum brakes as a roller. So I tossed it right away because of the drum brakes (the first time I had to panic stop in a 40’s pick up with drum fronts was eye opening). I had a scout 44 that was usable so it got the 44 while i was getting the ford D 60 ready and I drove it like that for a minute. I would have never spent a dime on that D30 but I also had plans to make it a 1 ton driveline from the beginning. I wasn’t going to spend money on the 44 either.
That is where this disconnect occurs in my opinion. You lose me at spending money on a D30. Also, we have differing philosophies of how much extra strength is built into our driveline vs how much abuse it can take. “Just take it easy” does not work for me, you could also say “just dont have oversized tires”. That is fine, I BUILD mine “smart” rather than being afraid of how close I am to its breaking point, especially if I am back coutry. I assure you that the designer of that axle never intended such a large tire or the forces imparted by it.
In the proper context there is nothing bad to say about the Dana 30 axle. It is actually quite tough.
I needed a NP203 for my doubler so I purchased a Chevy350, th350, NP203 as a combo pulled from a K5. I turned around and sold the motor for 80% of the purchase price leaving me with a TH350 and NP203. I used the 203 behind the TH400 in the scout and in front of the to be Ford 203. I knew someone that became in need of a TH350 so I traded that TH350 for approval of pulling, what is now my Ford HP Dana 60 front and NP203 out of the 79 ford down there in the field. That deal got me the adapter I needed, the transfer case that I was going to use part of and then turned into a $1000+ front axle all for about $200 maybe. Money for lockers and CrMo shafts goes to the proper axles for the application.
Conversely I was in the early days of LS1 performance and I was launching 1.4X 60 foot times on a GM 7.5” 10 bolt. I know loads of people that exploded them, mine held until I pulled it for a 9”. That 7.5” that everyone dogs on, was hanging the front tires of that car in the air. The driver side tire would get about 2’ of air, it took repeat beatings on slicks and sticky surface.
I love hard rock, and run 35 in mudders on 15X8 in rims turned by a full float amc 20,with a detroit, and the "turdy 30" with super 30 shafts with a arb, and all using 4.10 gears. and stopping power via a hydraulic brake booster.
I live on the beach, it makes no sense to build a rock crawler here. Limited slip front and rear, regear and a bubba rope is all you need here. It makes no sense to spend 20k on rock crawling mods if all you do is run in the sand and dirt roads. Build your jeep to fit your needs, not theirs.
Dana 30 gets a lot of hate from people that don't understand the axle. If you are going to be running larger than 35" tires, you probably are better getting a larger axle anyway. If you are running 35" tires or smaller, put a truss on it, maybe upgrade to chromoly axle shafts, re-gear if needed and it will be fine. Try to find a high-pinion Dana 30 as they are stronger. Dont expect to put 40" tires and do nothing and have an unbreakable axle. But for most budget people (that can't afford 80k jeeps that never go offroad), the dana 30 will suffice.
To quote The Dude, "Yeah, well....that's just like, your opinion, man."
I ran my Dana30 on 37's for a long time, broke 2 passenger side shafts over the years, and then swapped it with a rubicon 44 that I beefed up with a truss, gussets, ball joints and RCV axles. It's been holding up to a set of 39-13.5/17 BFG km3 tires. I've only broken a 1310 u joint on the yoke, so I may upgrade to a 1350.
I'm running one now with Motive gears and a True trac limited slip style on 35's beefed up. I'll up grade sooner or later but I'm with you, I've ran it for years with tubes inside 4.5 lift.
Great info to newbie Jeep owner.. love my new Rubicon limited with 20in wheels running 37x13.50 but plan on down sizing the wheel for sure because she’s not just a mall crawler. Lol
thumbnail instructions unclear, removed my front axle and my jeep handles terribly now. but it did fix the death wobble
A channel that gives you genuine pros and cons of Jeep mods and that doesn’t try to constantly sell you overrated sh*t that costs a fortune? Huh, odd...
Haha
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Bob Joe *cough* *cough*
He literally offered products for everything he mentioned..he was just low key about it
@@casey197930 smooth criminal
The "grumpers" are awesome... Well at least some of them :)
Its funny how peoples opinions vary. Lots of enthusiasts seem to hate it, but to me the Grumper is my #1 favorite Jeep mod on the market. Its really the reason I bought a Jeep.
So gay
I don’t have a Jeep yet, but the Grumper makes me want to buy one.
So I’m super new to the jeep community, my wife has always wanted one and recently we were able to get an all white JKU. There are things she’d like to do to make it “uniquely hers” and off road fun. But I’m noticing the Jeep community is pretty judgy about what you do with your jeep so now she’s “doing research” to make sure it’s ok to get certain lights, fenders, wheels, grumpy grills and whatnot and it turned from something she was dead set on modding it to make it her own, to now she’s not sure.
The jeep community is very against jeeps loosing their intended purpose. The difference between a "mall crawler" or "road queen" and a trail rig can be as simple as the tires and wheels that are used. Both have the same lift but 37's on 22's and 37's on 17's are very different. They tell different stories. Now with that said. This is your Jeep. Do what you want to it. Screw everyone else. If you want to use it offroad? Then hook up with people and figure out what you need to do to make your rig work the best where you wheel. Going to be a pavement princess? It does not matter what you do. Everyone is judging you already so might as well just make it yours.
Yes do what you want to your Jeep, you paid for they didn't. I don't know why people or the Jeep community has to be so judgy.
Well I'd go offroad with the stock jeep and you will see what you need, just modding it without understanding the purpose of the modification is part of the judging
F the jeep community. Your wife shouldn't have to worry about and what she feels is nice to her jeep.
Only reason I whent with a 17 inch wheel with 33 inch tires is because I want to in the future go bigger to a 35 or 37 but need to save up to swap out my D30. This way I can still have a decent tire size and wheel some but it helps future proof my Jeep
I never see so much hate for peoples choice for modding than with jeep wranglers. I dont have one yet and would do offroad, but for those that want to make them a mall crawler or show truck, more power to them. Not everyone need the same 35-37 inch, icon wheels, and prerunner bumper. Just let people be unique in their builds...except truck nuts, no truck nuts, totally agree.
yean this was entirely based around fitting their website into the video as much as possible. I get it, but it's mentioned way too much. We get it, we can get shit from your site. But I am now going out of my way to NOT purchase from you simply because you can't stop shoving it down my throat. One last thing, I am not liking or subbing within a damn minute of your video, so don't ask until we have seen more of your content, I know i'm not the only one who feels that way
I think there's plenty of trails that don't require lockers. At the Jeep clubs meets I've been to, most people don't own a rubi or have any lockers installed. I think they're definitely beneficial but if something keeps you out late on the trail I'm certain no one would be disappointed in having a couple good lights.
Right? Lockers void my warranty, I don’t need them to get down an old logging road. But it’s nice to be able to see when the sun goes down anyway.
Mall crawlers fucking rule
Having had 4 Jeeps, 1993 Wagoneer, 1997 TJ, 2005 Rubicon, and 2007 Patriot (sold). Don’t let anyone tell you what mods to perform. You’re educated, mod exactly how YOU want.
ive had 5 jeeps..na na na boo boo
@@neilvetter662 I’m old, not rich.
Great commercial with some other stuff thrown in.
Those cables running from the hood to the roof look horrible.
the pin strip scratches look worse. if you’ve been in a tight unkept trail they are very useful for moving the branch’s before they wack you in the face.
Never had a issue with my aftermarket LOCKED HP30 on 33 and yes the jeep spends most of it's time offroad or snow wheeling.
Funny how so many people without a wrangler always have their 2 cents to put into the conversation
It’s also funny how people who ain’t even putting 2 cents into someone else’s Jeep is complaining about what they are doing with their wrangler.
Oh Goodness! Purest are AAF. Mods that may cause harm, like the Spare Combo, is what I expected. Not a sensitive rant about one's personal taste.
I'm here because I plan on buying a Wrangler (love those damn vehicles!), and want to know what NOT to do, as far as what could cause functionality issues. I know what you said in the beginning. But you kind of nullified it, with the picks.
People are really angry about aesthetics (angry eyes...etc). So weird to me... Anywho... Sorry for the rant. I just hate when people take issue with people's individuality.
I have a grill in mine. The factory one was cracked when I got it; 08 jk. I think that mine looks good. I think he was more tarnishing the image of the ones that stick out and look like you want to drive an armored car for a living.
Im running stock axles on a 01 XJ. 3" RC lift, and Milestar 31"s on a 15" black daytona's. I do go offroad, but not extreme. Mainly to get further off the proverbial beaten path than most for remote primitive camping and fishing. As far as spare tire carriers, Im currently fabbing my own basket rack with a custom mount for my spare. Im planning to pull a small lifted trailer(approximately 4'x6) to haul all our tents, ice coolers etc, to free up cabin space. Good video though!
@KFC Man Depends on what you plan to do. I need enough clearance to get through undergrowth, fallen logs, and shallow mud/water. Nothing extreme. My brother and I are planning out another build that we will trailer with us at some point.
The Angry grille is the worst mod ever
You think I wanna polish a turd? No.
Guess I'll just hop on over to your website real quick,click the accessories link in the menu & pick me up a $3,000 axle housing instead of polishing a turd like you suggested. Thanks dude.
I agree with most of what you are saying except 2.
1. Lights before lockers.
Yes, lockers are very nice to have and needed for certain obstacles, lights should come first. I have seen far too many reports of people stuck on downhill bike trails or close to driving off a cliff because they simply couldn't see well enough.
2. Building D30 axles. If you treat your rig like a rock hopper then odds are you are going to break something. Ive seen guys break D44 axles on a trail that I walked up with my puney D30. Build for how you wheel. Wheel for how your built. Most importantly do what makes sense people.
I agree, LED lightning is much cheaper that building a set of axles. I had thought those light bars front and back look funky. Until I bought a used rig with them already on. The first night I had to park it in a safe spot behind my house.. Those lights made a big difference. I could see everything. Well worth the money. You need to see where you going first off.
It’s really the old dana 35 that was the turd.
For a couple reasons, first of all it was undersized, under-built, and prone to breakage. The second issue with that was that it is a c-clip axle, which means once you break that axle shaft: nothing is holding it, and your wheel in.
The Dana 30 has different versions, on a jk it’s probably too weak, but on say a tj... it was good up until 36” tires.
Even still, on a tj with 36” tires I run a truss, sleeves and gussets.
Ambiguous statements about the Dana 30 are sorta lame dude, coulda laid out which platform you were talking about so as not to spread misinformation.
I agree with most of this list as most of the mods affect performance. However, I don’t think the aftermarket grilles are all that bad and feel like some of them compliment specific builds better than the stock one does. Also, some people use them to cover their winch, so I’d say it is a positive. I get it, the 7-slot grille is iconic. However, I make it a point not to judge people for cosmetic mods and find people who do to be insufferable douches.
The Wrangler community is just like any other car community - the elitists and purists will surely let you know when your mods are unacceptable because they go against THEIR view of what YOUR car should be. I really was disappointed to learn this, I thought Jeep owners were different
I don’t know why people hate on aftermarket grills,
Those same people probably have a bunch of stickers (maybe even 1) hanging off their Jeep’s like a bunch or ricers. Thinking it adds power or coolness. 🤭
You nailed dude all 5!! Good job!
Thanks Robert!!!
Way to gate keep buddy, the jeep community is full of some of the most elitist people I’ve ever met.
Add to the list, high lift jack bolted to the doors of a gladiator. You bought an entire truck bed. Use it.
😂 my wife's Jeep has 4 outta the 5!!! She likes it. That's all that matters to me
Most Jeep mods are for looks. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as you don't run into functionally problems. Even then, it's your vehicle.
Whoever said “You can’t polish a turd.” Never watched Mythbusters because they were able to polish a turd. You just have to get past the grossness of handling a turd. Lol
I have 98in tires on my 1998 Mercury sable. No cap. best 4 wheelin rig I’ve ever had
You dont need 17 didferent light bars mounted on. Just get a nice set of LEDs...
You have a set of headlights you’d recommend? Didn’t get the LED upgrade package w/ my Gladiator and stock lights suck.
@@mrhackett1984 just any set of leds are better than stock tbh... i bought mine on amazon for 100$ and they work fine
I ran a D30 with 35s. Only churned it with the stock 2.5 4cly and updated the 5 speed to a 6 speed to get an extra low 1st gear.
It was a great rig till a Camano pulled out in front of me when I was doing 65. That was a really wild ride end over end 5 times....
I've never needed lockers....... until i added them. only autos but wow the difference on a rough trail... (or leaving the lake when i need a wash tbh) i dont think they're NEEDED but they do make quite the difference when you get stuck. they sure havent helped street driving in any way, but well worth the purchase.
Guy said lights before lockers… this dude never been on the trails at 3 am
@KFC Man yeah exactly
While I agree with most of your points, I have to disagree on the Dana 44. Yes, if you're running 37" tires on a behemoth 4 door land yacht, then the "true" D44 is a good idea.
But I know plenty of D30hp's running 35" without issue, especially in the lighter real jeeps. CJ, YJ, XJ, and TJ.
I know you're plugging your products, but you should have addressed Rubicon front axles. They say Dana 44, share the ring gear and pinion, however they share the same axle tubes, shafts, and even the u-joint as the D30. So if you're saying those are weak points on a D30... Aren't they just as weak on a Rubicon 44? Again, I get that you're trying to sell a $4,000 axle, but how is that better than a few hundred dollars for a super 30 kit, Grand Cherokee knuckles with crossover steering and larger brakes... that rivals a stock true 44 in strength?... With better ground clearance, plus, you don't have to remove your axle and steering linkage.
Sounds like we could create an entire video covering this exact topic! Love the feedback!
Don't forget the ever-popular Cold Water (I mean Air) intake.
Hey, hey, hey! I have been running 35s (unlocked) on a completely stock Dana 30 in my CJ 7 for 8 years of HARD wheeling. No breaks yet! Slow as you can fast as you must! I have seen someone completely detonate a Dana 30 on 32s though lol
Darth Vader grill.
All said and done you bought the Jeep.You paid for the Jeep.You do it anyway You want to ,don't listen to anybody's opinion, There's always going to be haters out there!