Before lifting, big tires, mongo bumpers, long arm suspension, you should armor up your undercarriage, dump your sidesteps and install rocksliders. The Jeep stock angles are pretty good and and if you bottom out you'll not be disabled. My otherwise stock open diffs (LSD in rear) 02TJ with full armor does pretty good with a 2" puck lift, 31" tires and discos. I've been on hard rock runs with the Big Boys and the trail leader will look me over and say OK, we'll winch you over the hard spots. After dozens of runs I've only been winched 3 times and the Big Boys consider me a poster boy for nearly stock TJs able to play in the hard stuff. One key is keep your rig really light, no heavy aftermarket steel bumpers, no massive tools/spare parts, no winch, no rooftop storage systems, etc. I doubt I'm over 200 pounds from factory stock weight.
Exactly! That's the approach that I've been taking with my little reg cab Tacoma. Put some skids on it, sliders, 5.29 gears because it's gutless, 2.5" lift, lockers and 33's. Besides the skids and sliders, a shell and rear swing out bumper are the only weight that I've added. I wanted to get the spare from under the truck and improve the departure angle. I love that little truck! It may be gutless, but it's small size and low weight really helps on the trails. Once this whole car shortage is over and prices adjust back to normal, I plan to pick up a TJ, preferably the LJ.
I’m just starting this with my Gladiator Sport. I’ve put 33” tires on it. I’m going to get a 2” Mopar lift. That’s about all. I’ll keep the 33s. I’ve been driving 4x4s all my life. My first was a 66 Bronco. That lightweight 6 cylinder went where the big trucks, Blazers, etc. couldn’t. I ride in mud a lot because I hunt and fish in Mississippi. That gumbo mud holds the world together! Going light is the only way to get through those muddy ruts.
went out with San Diego 4 wheelers on Superstition Mountain back in 2010 and had my jeep about like what you describe above and looked at all the lifted Jeeps and told the one of the people in our group that I am going to get bigger better this that and the other thing. He said, "are you having fun?" I said yes. he said "Then why do you need all that?" Still running the same 2000 TJ today with the same 2" lift but with 32's but did add ARB lockers. Don't use them as much as I thought I would. lol
Jeep wj 4 in long arms , 33's . Heavy trimming of wheel wells . As far as clearance mods go ; 1. radiator support cut off and a high clearance support put in - gain 2 in 2 . Toss the low pinion d30 for a high pinion front axle and then clock TC 11 degrees - gain of 3 in under TC 3 . Cut out rockers f to r and weld in rectangular tube the entire length - gain of 2in 4. Get rid of stock exhaust and 3rd cat. Low profile borla muffler and 2.5 in pipe tucked up and out of the way - 2.25 in gain 5. Lower control arm mounts and shock mounts both moved up the axle - gain .3 in 6 . Gas tank lift ; cut out the spare tire space and raise gas tank . Shorten the gas tank brackets . Massive gain of 10 inches ! 7. Front end flip kit for rods. - I can't remember but it was a decent amount . 8 . Stuck with 44d axles . Built up axles so I won't need d60s . D60's will rob you of inches of clearance , forcing you to go bigger tires - $$$ 9. Hidden winch synthetic rope for increased approach angle and weight savings vs huge heavy and in the way bumpers. 10 . Wheel on my friends.
Watch Matt's Offroad Recovery here on TH-cam his Cherokee is all fabricated by himself plus his awesome offroad Corvair title Morrvair it's a beast he built for offroad recovery in Utah.
Great explanation.... But would be so much more valuable if you would actually SHOW on paper calculating the Breakover angles, along with SHOWING the broom stick method on a vehicle. Talking is great... Showing and demonstrating would really be advantageous to new guys.
@@wheels.and.wrenches or he could show it for those that are interested in seeing this method. Not everybody is an Einstein genius as the all knowing W&W!
@Chasing Dreams Living Life - well, sure, a simple diagram and 30” explanation would’ve been sufficient enough. But that doesn’t get enough views, likes, and ad revenue
Yes. I think about all of that before i upgrade my ZJ. Which is why instead of buying some bolt on which bumper, i made my own and set it as far back towards the radiator as i could. Including cutting the grill so i could set out back 4 extra inches.
Another factor to consider that’s never mentioned is break over radius. While it’s related to break over angle, it’s the measurement of how small of a cylinder the vehicle could theoretically drive around. I’ll give an extreme example, the suburban, one is real the other is a 1/24 scale toy, the toy has the same break over angle as the real vehicle. The toy may have a half inch ground clearance but can be rolled around a 15” diameter drum. The real suburban would get high centered on the same drum even though it may have 10 inches of ground clearance. Area example off road is going over a rounded dirt hill. This extreme example illustrates that both break over angle and radius should be considered. Shorter wheelbases improve break over radius even if the break over angle is the same compared to a long truck. Break over angle better represents driving over a sharp corner like a rock outcropping, in other words, to get the same break over radius as a stock Cj2a in a long pickup truck would require quite the lift.
Biggest mistake people make is not understanding they have a system that is all interrelated. You can have a great setup and one overlooked aspect can hurt performance significantly. I see this all the time where people spend tons of money on lift/tires/bumpers/etc and then run side rock rails with low hanging steps. You would be better off keeping the vehicle at stock height then running side steps. It’s also very common for people to spend a ton of money on a setup and then run all terrain tires that belong on a dirt road. The most important aspect of off road is traction, and nothing improves traction more than tires.
Some of the most fun I have ever had 4 wheeling is in my friend's YJ with 31" tires and nerf bars. We went down Bronco's Peak in San Diego which is rated for 33's and lockers. It took us all day and and we slid on the nerf bars all day but we didn't break or dent anything. Just go have fun. Stock JK and JL's can do the Rubicon. You don't need $200K in the bank.
I'm building my WK for overlanding purposes, so no rock crawling (since we don't even have mountains here in Finland). Currently at between 24-25 degrees breakover angle (if I calculated it correctly), which would be plenty for my use since most of the trips will be on good roads anyway. No reason to lift it more than what OME 2 inch MD gives. That'll allow me to put slightly bigger tires too than stock, which gives a bit more ground clearance 👍 Plan is to put some protection for my transfercase and other more exposed components too, since you never know if you'll end up on one of those "roads" that have bigger rocks or other potentially damaging stuff on them. Just to be sure. Nothing too heavy tho.
@@tntzimmerman9552 I do already 😁 It's my daily driver and just joy to drive. Just gotta install winch (for those oh crap moments) and build my camper trailer and we're set for longer family trips 👌 Lotsa awesome overlanding areas up north of Finland and we can even go to north Norway to see if we can catch a view of some whales 🤔
@@finnishfatman that’s awesome, life is about being happy and enjoying it with your loved ones. My happy place is off the beaten road also. Happy trails!
@@tntzimmerman9552 Very true! I normally would say "smooth sailing" to you (I'm a son of a fisherman) but since those beaten roads can lead to awesome adventures, I'll say Rough Roads to you as well! 😁👍
@@finnishfatman good stuff brother.. I drive a WJ for daily mostly and overlanding stuff.. the cross member under the transfer case has saved my ass a bunch.. i also did a fuel tank tuck for my rear end.. have fun!
This is solid info. Im keeping my XJ as a mostly overland style rig. (3" lift on 31 to sometimes 32's). Since I have the ax15 I wont need to worry about gears up to 33" tires. Also, I have ordered a front diff guard as well as a skidplate "just in case". Just getting into offroad in a more serious sense and Ive found the community is mostly wholesome and eager to help. Thanks for the video
My TJ had a poison Spyder armor with front and rear stingers with 37s. It only drug on the most extreme ledges. I never checked the angles but it made for a very capable rig. My current LJ, I threw angles out the door. We overland tour with a trailer. It wears front and rear ARB bumpers, Teraflex LCG, 35” MT/Rs. It’s a really capable rig but not the rock crawler my TJ was.
Know this BEFORE you buy a Jeep: you'll be replacing most of it to make this sort of capability reliable. (newer Rubis notwithstanding probably) Know this BEFORE you buy a 1FZ K294 Land Cruiser: you need only a few lift springs. I sub'd, so I feel I can say that. lol But really, no matter what you drive get out there and do it! It's awesome! Great info here. I think we'd all get along just fine and have a heck of a time. 👍👍
The skill of the driver also plays a big part. No matter your rig if you don't know how to drive then you are screwed. Lesson 1: buy vehicle and learn how to drive it without mods Lesson 2: determine what kind of off-roading you would like to do without mods Lesson 3: built vehicle to what you want to be doing
This applies to road cars too. I would see a lot of people with tons on "upgrades" on their track car, but I'd pass all of them in my stock 4 door coupe.
My ZJ is just bone stock for the most part. Engine is the 4.0 Inline 6 with 226k miles on it as of writing this, selec-trac tcase with 4wd part time and full time, as well as low range, 4 speed auto. Still figuring some stuff out because i just bought it January 7th 2022, but the approach and departure angles are 37 degrees and 30 degrees respectively. Breakover is where i eat it, 17 degrees, but so far this hasnt given me any issues. I think ive got 8 or 9 inches of ground clearance. Tire size is just the regular old street 235/75R15s, but im planning to upgrade to some 32 inch BFGoodrich KO2's in the near future, and a 2 inch lift kit because the jeep is more capable than I am as it is, and i dont want to abuse it too much. Everybody here is way more experienced than I, so if y'all have any cheap suggestions for my rig, please lemme know. I want to preserve the MPG if i can while still being fairly capable. Thanks folks!
Like you said depends on what you plan on doing. My 98 jeep wrangler (tj) has a break over of 29° in the middle and it isn't enough for the rock crawling and rock ledges I do.
The funny part about the jeep gladiator is the short rock rails behind the rear tires, they'll do their job allright, but so much for your spare tire the heat shield and the tailpipe. You must do a tail end tuck as part of a lift in order to make this realistically functional.
@@ChavsADV oh I think the 4 door 🚪 is still ok, the pickup truck just does have great uses for me. The point is how much 💰 YOU are going spend after the fact, to get the improvement that you want...and must do yourself.
@@alancadieux2984 To each their own. I think that Chrysler has a huge line of vehicles that better fill those categories rather than trying to turn the wrangler into the vehicle for everyone. What would have been cool is a truck built at the same wheelbase as the unlimited. Then it all would make more sense. I still think the sun 100" wheel base is nice but I can also see how some. Like the larger vehicle.
There's no way to figure out breakover angle for offroad. Because there are no perfectly shaped triangular rocks in the woods. So there's never a GOOD or BAD angle cutoff. The only thing you need to remember is: 1. Larger tires are better but require full drivetrain upgrades. 2. Optimal wheelbase is 110" to 118" 3. Keep the COG low as possible without sacrificing uptravel. Thats it...
See that can change depending on the terrain of stuff you encounter. A formula off-road jeep is built almost 💯 different then a rock bouncer. And a mudder is built different than a crawler.
@@wheels.and.wrenches off-road is a very general term. Big difference in trails, mudding, crawling, rock bouncing, mud racing and so on. And each one favors very different setups. I didn't think this needed explained further.
2018 jku stock ,1st upgrade metalcloak front bumper, apex 12,000 badlands winch with the freedom line added ,and Spod rocker switches but no lights yet, next on wish list ,metalcloak rear bumper and there 2.5 lift with 35s .
Great info, 2015 Jeep Wrangler unlimited, 4 1/2 “ lift, 35/12.5 Wrangler MT 29 degree break over angle. 15” center clearance 116” WB Great all around rig for off road and highway 🤙🏻
I just mostly copied the JLU Rubicon on my JLU Sahara. 1” lift, 2” wider overall track with Bora hubcentric wheel spacers, Rubicon fenders, all to run 35’s on a mostly overlanding vehicle. Geometry is within stock parameters but I did add low maintenance Mopar LCA’s to get about 1° more caster for improved steering on the hwy. It’s been great! Oh and no roof rack. I don’t want it tippy. I try to keep the overall weight down as well.
I wheel a 14in wheel travel long armed 2 door Jeep rubicon jk. 4 inch wheel base stretch, 4.5 lift, completely built, and I run 37in sticky treps. It is extremely capable off road however it doesn’t climb rocks/ledges at all. It won’t keep up with 4 door wranglers on the same setup. My previous wheeler was a 2010 f250 with 40s on a cheap 6in lift, front/rear lockers, 137in stock wheelbase. Despite being unbelievably tall, and absurdly long, it wheeled circles around my Jeep. The only thing the Jeep is better at is maneuverability and ride. When it comes to building a off road rig that’s capable it comes down to this: Big off road tires (40+in) Beadlocks and 6-8psi max Strong parts (so you can actually make it) Lockers front/rear High underbody frame height Low gearing to give control and torque Wheelbase of 110 or so inches Things that are overrated for trail use: Suspension flex Low center of gravity Horsepower Electronic gadgets like traction control The f250 I built had no flex, high center of gravity, no hp, and my current Jeep couldn’t keep up on any hard trail (I know because a friend bought it from me and Ives wheeled with him since I built the Jeep). I am actually going to be building a new rig because I don’t have the heart to cut the whole back half of the Jeep up to run 40s and get another 10in of wheel base so it performs.
I have a 2021 TRD 4Runner with a 3.5in Icon suspension lift and I’m running 33in KO2. My breakover angle is 25.7 degrees. Unsure of my approach and departure angles. We are doing typical off-roading. To get a 30 degree breakover on a 4Runner you would need a bigger lift and to recalibrate the gears to fit 35s
Going with a 4.5 inch long arm with 35s on my 2 door wrangler. Actually this is a project I have been putting off for some time. I was debating on getting rid of the jeep and getting a truck but every time I get in the jeep after driving the work truck for a week I cant help but love to drive my jeep. Its just not the same. So I had spent the last 2 years or so saving some money while I made my mind up. I just cannot part with the jeep so I now have about 40k to do whatever I want to it. First thing that is getting replaced is everything underneath. I have skid plates but bumpers and sliders will be next. My current bumpers are just stock with the front chopped to make it narrow. It currently sits on 315s and other then that its stock. It has served me well on the trails.
LX570 (aka Lexus Land Cruiser). 35x12.5R20s tires. Sensor lifted (1") with suspension in high mode (3"), is ~4" total suspension lift. 16" center clearance to frame rail. 112.2" wheelbase. Approach 35 degrees, Breakover 31.8 degrees, Departure 34 degrees
For the wheeling I do getting all my heavy items first rockslides front and rear bumpers and skids all installed cheap spacer and shackle lift. working on gearing and upgrading the front dif first currently running down my 33s once I get the stuff for gearing ima do 35s then going all out on suspension
1st questions should be "What are you wanting to do with that vehicle". If you are just overlanding and not going full blown crazy at the Rubicon or Prichett Canyon do you need anything more than 35" tires as example? Define your purpose and build from there.
Like you said depending on what have cause I have 94 Chevy suburban on 6 inch lift and 35 nitto trail grapps with a Detroit true trac with 3.73 in the and 3.73 open in the front and it will basically crawl over anything in 2 wheel drive and i have it axle deep in ruts and walked thru but I most do more mud range off-roading
Added 35's to my 2020 Stock rimmed Rubicon and may at some point to a small lift...My offroading will consist of beach and some trails here in NJ. So not rock crawling or anything crazy. Can see going getting a second Jeep at some point to have one for overlanding/Camping and one for top off fun.
I have the 2024 4xe Willy’s and it’s stock and with 10,000 hard miles on it I’ve had O issues getting where I want to go lol however I’m not stupid and think before approaching departing a obstacle
95 geo tracker 2 door convertible. 4.5" Altered Ego lift. 35" buckshot mudders, for now. 89.5" wheel base, 18" of clearance. That comes out to almost 44" breakover angle. I suppose I should cancel plans for the 2" body lift and maybe even switch to 33" tires. I don't have an angle finder for the approach or departure angles but I don't have any bumpers on it right now and the front end only sticks out about a half inch past the tires. I would guess it would have about an 80 degree approach angle. The rear is almost the same. Edit. I was talking about approach and departure angles, but I should have been focusing on tip over angles. See pic to the left.
Depends on what you mean by heavier axles 30s and 35s are not big strong axles but they are more compact then 44 on 9 inch. In fact the Rockwell's will beat all those in strength and durability however their clearance sucks, they are heavy, and super low geared. Now if you want max clearance and money is not a huge issue I would hands down say portals are the best.
The best value for money upgrade when it comes to performance is front and rear lockers! You could spend $3k on lockers or $3k on suspension but lockers will always get you further.
I have any '08 Wrangler JK 4dr 116" wheelbase with 3.5" lift and run 35's. My break over angle is 28.1 degrees. This works for what I need with occasional trail riding in the Rockies here in western Canada🇨🇦
Only true lift is tires, a 12" lift with stock sized tires will still get hung up on the pumpkin, build your vehicle for it's intended use, a experienced driver and spotter in a stock vehicle can make it where even the most built vehicle with no experience can. Don't chop your frame, add lockers add bumpers and winches if you just drive the kiddos to school and back it's a waste of money and everyone will be laughing at your mall crawler, even the guy in the Honda Ridgeline
still debating an aluminum replica of the Rubicon steel bumper ( MP concepts ). I try to keep my jeep function over form. Just don't know if I'd use it enough to justify, especially with the rising gas prices. Looking more to overland/ blizzard fighter in the winter months
after some mods to my 2010 Grand Vitara (30.5 tires, 2 inch lift) i get 10.9 inches of clearance with my 103.9 wheelbase giving me only a 23.9 breakover. my departure and approach angles are much better tho, 42 in the front and 33 in the rear. needless to say ,my skidplates get a workout when i go to some more adventurous spots
For me it is simple to report what the current state is, as it is stock, so stock I still haven't taken delivery of it (happening in December) :) Approach 31, break over 22, departure is 24... It is an Isuzu D-Max, wheelbase is 3125mm. I'm not planning anything crazy, a small lift, slight increase in tyre size and it has to be a daily driver too.
I have a 2009 chevy tahoe with a 2" suspension lift and road tires but I'm more into sand dunes so it's perfect for me I might change the tires soon but for now, it's perferct
if i remember I can give you the clearance i do know at stock my Nissan Titan 2023 was 9.8" ground clearance but i just did a 6" lift so'll need to measure it now.
When i told people that i was going to lift my ZJ 7in i for a lot of flak for it. People saying it was too tall, that i was going to be too tippy, that i was building a "Mall crawler" etc. Never had an issue with any of that. Never tipped or rolled over. In fact, i have a video on my TH-cam channel taken shortly after i installed the lift of my ZJ climbing a 7ft waterfall. Despite having only 33s and open diffs, I was the only rig to make it over that ledge in a group of 15 jeeps, including a few well built JKUs on 37s. They all got hung up on their cross members. In the video you can see all of the spotters just assuming i would take the easier bypass just because i was the least built rig and they all assumed that since they all failed, i wouldn't even try. Then i just rolled right up and over. th-cam.com/video/0VN3N2GM1g4/w-d-xo.html
u can raise your frame up all u want but your true ground clearance is caused by tire height,i have 13 inches to bottom of diff's using only 35 in tires,on a 79 bronco
2020 Ram Warlock. 141 wheel base and 14" clearance on level kit and 1" lift on 35x12.5r20 and my Break over is 22.5° which is close to my Departure Angle. But my approach angles is way closer to the desired 30° Hope this helps others as well.
I'd like to buy 2014 dodge durango or 2009 jeep commander and do a lift kit, bigger tires and underbody protection which the total vehicle hight won't exceed 2 meter due to dally usage and offroad ready
My BC Customs SRTV Rig on 40" Maxxis Trepadors features long-travel suspension and has an approach angle of 74°, a departure angle of 37° and a break over angle of 32°, while the sidehill angle is 45°! I couldn't add my rig to your site, it doesn't have a place for "Other" for Brand or Type
I saw a Porsche Cayenne with a 3 inch lift this weekend. I didn't know if I should give him a nod, or shake my head. I was interested as to why, but he took off before I could ask.
I just bought a set of wheel and tires from you guys for my 2021 jeep wrangler Rubicon. I opted for balancing beads in the tires. My question is , do the beads need to warm up before they smooth out cuz I just took a short ride and felt that the steering wheel was shaking a bit. It didn't do this with the stock 33" tires. I realized that buying tires on line that there is no local help and you guys don't post your phone number on the web site.
Hey Larry! Our customer service team is going to be best suited to answer all of your questions and they can be reached either by email at: sales@trailbuiltoffroad.com or by phone at: 920-689-6849. Thanks much
They did a really nice video on wheel weights, including balancing beads that I belive will answer your question. But yes, it does take the beads a bit to actually settle in. Here's the video link: th-cam.com/video/T3n7Rx91cDg/w-d-xo.html
Really informative. Thank you. Let's talk about the crazy footage running in the background. Wow! My 100% stock two door Rubicon would likely not make it through these trails.
I had issues with that in my Jeep wj. My solution was swap in a high pinion front axle and the I clocked my transfer Case 11 degrees . Now I have a flat under carriage.
What is the measurement called for when you are driving off a shelf or some other near vertical obstacle and you bury your front bumper in the ground before your front tires hit the ground? I had never considered this "angle" before last week, when I drove off the side of a wash, which luck would have it, crumbled and I was able to avoid going nose first into the dirt at the bottom. By the way, love the style on the videos, I like the down to earth, factual narration, the good info and the way everything is provided with a why...one thing that would be nice is some captions on where the trails are that are being used to demonstrate the topics discussed...obviously southern AZ from the saguaro cactus I see, but those are some hardcore trails!
Stock Wrangler with 33inches covers 90% of scenarios for amateur. I would say the next step would be Fox 4inch lift and 35s+. But still if you make mistakes like putting wide tires (no point), too weak engine you end up 5 meters far than me in wrangler 😂
If Jeeps were really 'trail rated', wouldn't they have all this stuff built in from the factory? The Toyota FJ-40 would go everywhere right off the showroom floor.
What size tyres do I add to the new 5 door JIMNY which has a 2590 Mm wheelbase with a 24degree break over angle. Presently it has 195/80R15 tyres. Would a 235/75R15 be ok ? Thanks
I don’t like it when some people buy a jeep and dress it all nice. Then they don’t use it for what it’s for . It’s not a street vehicle it’s an off road vehicle. If you want a nice vehicle or a street vehicle by a Bentley Corvette Cadillac or Mercedes or whatever other car you like. But don’t use a jeep as a daily commuter because that’s not what it is a lot of people buy jeeps or just a bunch of followers. And this is just my opinion don’t get offended🙄💪🏼🇲🇽🇺🇸👊🏼
Also definitely invest in a winch better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. And unless your competing in timed events or something you don't really need name brand. Cause I have seen cheap and expensive ones in action and the only difference you will notice is how fast the line comes in. And if that's your focus get what they call the god winch. A pto driven winch very dangerous but very very fast. And don't get one that is just rated for your vehicles weight at least double it heavier rating is better always.
Before lifting, big tires, mongo bumpers, long arm suspension, you should armor up your undercarriage, dump your sidesteps and install rocksliders. The Jeep stock angles are pretty good and and if you bottom out you'll not be disabled.
My otherwise stock open diffs (LSD in rear) 02TJ with full armor does pretty good with a 2" puck lift, 31" tires and discos. I've been on hard rock runs with the Big Boys and the trail leader will look me over and say OK, we'll winch you over the hard spots. After dozens of runs I've only been winched 3 times and the Big Boys consider me a poster boy for nearly stock TJs able to play in the hard stuff. One key is keep your rig really light, no heavy aftermarket steel bumpers, no massive tools/spare parts, no winch, no rooftop storage systems, etc. I doubt I'm over 200 pounds from factory stock weight.
Exactly! That's the approach that I've been taking with my little reg cab Tacoma. Put some skids on it, sliders, 5.29 gears because it's gutless, 2.5" lift, lockers and 33's. Besides the skids and sliders, a shell and rear swing out bumper are the only weight that I've added. I wanted to get the spare from under the truck and improve the departure angle. I love that little truck! It may be gutless, but it's small size and low weight really helps on the trails. Once this whole car shortage is over and prices adjust back to normal, I plan to pick up a TJ, preferably the LJ.
I’m just starting this with my Gladiator Sport. I’ve put 33” tires on it. I’m going to get a 2” Mopar lift. That’s about all. I’ll keep the 33s. I’ve been driving 4x4s all my life. My first was a 66 Bronco. That lightweight 6 cylinder went where the big trucks, Blazers, etc. couldn’t. I ride in mud a lot because I hunt and fish in Mississippi. That gumbo mud holds the world together! Going light is the only way to get through those muddy ruts.
went out with San Diego 4 wheelers on Superstition Mountain back in 2010 and had my jeep about like what you describe above and looked at all the lifted Jeeps and told the one of the people in our group that I am going to get bigger better this that and the other thing. He said, "are you having fun?" I said yes. he said "Then why do you need all that?" Still running the same 2000 TJ today with the same 2" lift but with 32's but did add ARB lockers. Don't use them as much as I thought I would. lol
Solid common sense spoken here and I completely agree with this view.
You make a very good point about weight. So many people load their vehicles with all sorts of heavy crap and then wonder why they struggle.
Jeep wj 4 in long arms , 33's . Heavy trimming of wheel wells . As far as clearance mods go ;
1. radiator support cut off and a high clearance support put in - gain 2 in
2 . Toss the low pinion d30 for a high pinion front axle and then clock TC 11 degrees - gain of 3 in under TC
3 . Cut out rockers f to r and weld in rectangular tube the entire length - gain of 2in
4. Get rid of stock exhaust and 3rd cat. Low profile borla muffler and 2.5 in pipe tucked up and out of the way - 2.25 in gain
5. Lower control arm mounts and shock mounts both moved up the axle - gain .3 in
6 . Gas tank lift ; cut out the spare tire space and raise gas tank . Shorten the gas tank brackets . Massive gain of 10 inches !
7. Front end flip kit for rods. - I can't remember but it was a decent amount .
8 . Stuck with 44d axles . Built up axles so I won't need d60s . D60's will rob you of inches of clearance , forcing you to go bigger tires - $$$
9. Hidden winch synthetic rope for increased approach angle and weight savings vs huge heavy and in the way bumpers.
10 . Wheel on my friends.
Watch Matt's Offroad Recovery here on TH-cam his Cherokee is all fabricated by himself plus his awesome offroad Corvair title Morrvair it's a beast he built for offroad recovery in Utah.
I love that channel. The golden nugget was an awesome recovery!!!!!!!
@@ultrajazz5335 sure was can't wait until they restore it.
@@GoneBroke *can’t wait til Paul at Fab Rats restores it
This and Matt's along with some Australian off-road channel are all I watch here on TH-cam.
RUUUUDDYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
As noob this is the best explaination and calculation for breakerover angle, approach and departure angle. Thank you!!!
Glad we could help!
Great explanation.... But would be so much more valuable if you would actually SHOW on paper calculating the Breakover angles, along with SHOWING the broom stick method on a vehicle. Talking is great... Showing and demonstrating would really be advantageous to new guys.
Noted! Thanks for the feedback!
Theres no calculatiins needed. Its all common sense and basic clearance.
@@wheels.and.wrenches or he could show it for those that are interested in seeing this method. Not everybody is an Einstein genius as the all knowing W&W!
@Chasing Dreams Living Life - well, sure, a simple diagram and 30” explanation would’ve been sufficient enough. But that doesn’t get enough views, likes, and ad revenue
@@wheels.and.wrenches heuristics will only get you so far. Besides, we're talking simple trigonometry.
Yes. I think about all of that before i upgrade my ZJ. Which is why instead of buying some bolt on which bumper, i made my own and set it as far back towards the radiator as i could. Including cutting the grill so i could set out back 4 extra inches.
Another factor to consider that’s never mentioned is break over radius. While it’s related to break over angle, it’s the measurement of how small of a cylinder the vehicle could theoretically drive around. I’ll give an extreme example, the suburban, one is real the other is a 1/24 scale toy, the toy has the same break over angle as the real vehicle. The toy may have a half inch ground clearance but can be rolled around a 15” diameter drum. The real suburban would get high centered on the same drum even though it may have 10 inches of ground clearance. Area example off road is going over a rounded dirt hill. This extreme example illustrates that both break over angle and radius should be considered. Shorter wheelbases improve break over radius even if the break over angle is the same compared to a long truck. Break over angle better represents driving over a sharp corner like a rock outcropping, in other words, to get the same break over radius as a stock Cj2a in a long pickup truck would require quite the lift.
Biggest mistake people make is not understanding they have a system that is all interrelated. You can have a great setup and one overlooked aspect can hurt performance significantly. I see this all the time where people spend tons of money on lift/tires/bumpers/etc and then run side rock rails with low hanging steps. You would be better off keeping the vehicle at stock height then running side steps. It’s also very common for people to spend a ton of money on a setup and then run all terrain tires that belong on a dirt road. The most important aspect of off road is traction, and nothing improves traction more than tires.
Some of the most fun I have ever had 4 wheeling is in my friend's YJ with 31" tires and nerf bars. We went down Bronco's Peak in San Diego which is rated for 33's and lockers. It took us all day and and we slid on the nerf bars all day but we didn't break or dent anything. Just go have fun. Stock JK and JL's can do the Rubicon. You don't need $200K in the bank.
I'm building my WK for overlanding purposes, so no rock crawling (since we don't even have mountains here in Finland). Currently at between 24-25 degrees breakover angle (if I calculated it correctly), which would be plenty for my use since most of the trips will be on good roads anyway. No reason to lift it more than what OME 2 inch MD gives. That'll allow me to put slightly bigger tires too than stock, which gives a bit more ground clearance 👍 Plan is to put some protection for my transfercase and other more exposed components too, since you never know if you'll end up on one of those "roads" that have bigger rocks or other potentially damaging stuff on them. Just to be sure. Nothing too heavy tho.
You’ll love your camping rig.
@@tntzimmerman9552 I do already 😁 It's my daily driver and just joy to drive. Just gotta install winch (for those oh crap moments) and build my camper trailer and we're set for longer family trips 👌 Lotsa awesome overlanding areas up north of Finland and we can even go to north Norway to see if we can catch a view of some whales 🤔
@@finnishfatman that’s awesome, life is about being happy and enjoying it with your loved ones. My happy place is off the beaten road also. Happy trails!
@@tntzimmerman9552 Very true! I normally would say "smooth sailing" to you (I'm a son of a fisherman) but since those beaten roads can lead to awesome adventures, I'll say Rough Roads to you as well! 😁👍
@@finnishfatman good stuff brother.. I drive a WJ for daily mostly and overlanding stuff.. the cross member under the transfer case has saved my ass a bunch.. i also did a fuel tank tuck for my rear end.. have fun!
This is solid info. Im keeping my XJ as a mostly overland style rig. (3" lift on 31 to sometimes 32's). Since I have the ax15 I wont need to worry about gears up to 33" tires. Also, I have ordered a front diff guard as well as a skidplate "just in case". Just getting into offroad in a more serious sense and Ive found the community is mostly wholesome and eager to help. Thanks for the video
My TJ had a poison Spyder armor with front and rear stingers with 37s. It only drug on the most extreme ledges. I never checked the angles but it made for a very capable rig. My current LJ, I threw angles out the door. We overland tour with a trailer. It wears front and rear ARB bumpers, Teraflex LCG, 35” MT/Rs. It’s a really capable rig but not the rock crawler my TJ was.
Know this BEFORE you buy a Jeep: you'll be replacing most of it to make this sort of capability reliable. (newer Rubis notwithstanding probably)
Know this BEFORE you buy a 1FZ K294 Land Cruiser: you need only a few lift springs.
I sub'd, so I feel I can say that. lol
But really, no matter what you drive get out there and do it! It's awesome!
Great info here. I think we'd all get along just fine and have a heck of a time. 👍👍
I just put it 4 low, and hope for the best
Me too!
The skill of the driver also plays a big part. No matter your rig if you don't know how to drive then you are screwed.
Lesson 1: buy vehicle and learn how to drive it without mods
Lesson 2: determine what kind of off-roading you would like to do without mods
Lesson 3: built vehicle to what you want to be doing
This applies to road cars too. I would see a lot of people with tons on "upgrades" on their track car, but I'd pass all of them in my stock 4 door coupe.
My ZJ is just bone stock for the most part. Engine is the 4.0 Inline 6 with 226k miles on it as of writing this, selec-trac tcase with 4wd part time and full time, as well as low range, 4 speed auto. Still figuring some stuff out because i just bought it January 7th 2022, but the approach and departure angles are 37 degrees and 30 degrees respectively. Breakover is where i eat it, 17 degrees, but so far this hasnt given me any issues. I think ive got 8 or 9 inches of ground clearance. Tire size is just the regular old street 235/75R15s, but im planning to upgrade to some 32 inch BFGoodrich KO2's in the near future, and a 2 inch lift kit because the jeep is more capable than I am as it is, and i dont want to abuse it too much.
Everybody here is way more experienced than I, so if y'all have any cheap suggestions for my rig, please lemme know. I want to preserve the MPG if i can while still being fairly capable. Thanks folks!
Like you said depends on what you plan on doing. My 98 jeep wrangler (tj) has a break over of 29° in the middle and it isn't enough for the rock crawling and rock ledges I do.
The funny part about the jeep gladiator is the short rock rails behind the rear tires, they'll do their job allright, but so much for your spare tire the heat shield and the tailpipe. You must do a tail end tuck as part of a lift in order to make this realistically functional.
Trying to make the wrangler anything but a 2 door SUV was the first mistake. All down hill from there.
@@ChavsADV oh I think the 4 door 🚪 is still ok, the pickup truck just does have great uses for me. The point is how much 💰 YOU are going spend after the fact, to get the improvement that you want...and must do yourself.
@@alancadieux2984 To each their own. I think that Chrysler has a huge line of vehicles that better fill those categories rather than trying to turn the wrangler into the vehicle for everyone. What would have been cool is a truck built at the same wheelbase as the unlimited. Then it all would make more sense. I still think the sun 100" wheel base is nice but I can also see how some. Like the larger vehicle.
There's no way to figure out breakover angle for offroad. Because there are no perfectly shaped triangular rocks in the woods. So there's never a GOOD or BAD angle cutoff. The only thing you need to remember is:
1. Larger tires are better but require full drivetrain upgrades.
2. Optimal wheelbase is 110" to 118"
3. Keep the COG low as possible without sacrificing uptravel.
Thats it...
See that can change depending on the terrain of stuff you encounter. A formula off-road jeep is built almost 💯 different then a rock bouncer. And a mudder is built different than a crawler.
@MrBULLRIDER13 off road is offroad dude 🙏🏻
@@wheels.and.wrenches off-road is a very general term. Big difference in trails, mudding, crawling, rock bouncing, mud racing and so on. And each one favors very different setups. I didn't think this needed explained further.
2018 jku stock ,1st upgrade metalcloak front bumper, apex 12,000 badlands winch with the freedom line added ,and Spod rocker switches but no lights yet, next on wish list ,metalcloak rear bumper and there 2.5 lift with 35s .
Great info, 2015 Jeep Wrangler unlimited, 4 1/2 “ lift, 35/12.5 Wrangler MT 29 degree break over angle.
15” center clearance
116” WB
Great all around rig for off road and highway 🤙🏻
I just mostly copied the JLU Rubicon on my JLU Sahara. 1” lift, 2” wider overall track with Bora hubcentric wheel spacers, Rubicon fenders, all to run 35’s on a mostly overlanding vehicle. Geometry is within stock parameters but I did add low maintenance Mopar LCA’s to get about 1° more caster for improved steering on the hwy. It’s been great! Oh and no roof rack. I don’t want it tippy. I try to keep the overall weight down as well.
Geo tracker on 31's. Approach 55°, Break over 31°, Departure 50°, Wheelbase 86", Track width 67", Clearance 12".
Gets me where I need to go.
I wheel a 14in wheel travel long armed 2 door Jeep rubicon jk. 4 inch wheel base stretch, 4.5 lift, completely built, and I run 37in sticky treps. It is extremely capable off road however it doesn’t climb rocks/ledges at all. It won’t keep up with 4 door wranglers on the same setup. My previous wheeler was a 2010 f250 with 40s on a cheap 6in lift, front/rear lockers, 137in stock wheelbase. Despite being unbelievably tall, and absurdly long, it wheeled circles around my Jeep. The only thing the Jeep is better at is maneuverability and ride.
When it comes to building a off road rig that’s capable it comes down to this:
Big off road tires (40+in)
Beadlocks and 6-8psi max
Strong parts (so you can actually make it)
Lockers front/rear
High underbody frame height
Low gearing to give control and torque
Wheelbase of 110 or so inches
Things that are overrated for trail use:
Suspension flex
Low center of gravity
Horsepower
Electronic gadgets like traction control
The f250 I built had no flex, high center of gravity, no hp, and my current Jeep couldn’t keep up on any hard trail (I know because a friend bought it from me and Ives wheeled with him since I built the Jeep). I am actually going to be building a new rig because I don’t have the heart to cut the whole back half of the Jeep up to run 40s and get another 10in of wheel base so it performs.
I have a 2021 TRD 4Runner with a 3.5in Icon suspension lift and I’m running 33in KO2. My breakover angle is 25.7 degrees. Unsure of my approach and departure angles. We are doing typical off-roading. To get a 30 degree breakover on a 4Runner you would need a bigger lift and to recalibrate the gears to fit 35s
Going with a 4.5 inch long arm with 35s on my 2 door wrangler. Actually this is a project I have been putting off for some time. I was debating on getting rid of the jeep and getting a truck but every time I get in the jeep after driving the work truck for a week I cant help but love to drive my jeep. Its just not the same. So I had spent the last 2 years or so saving some money while I made my mind up. I just cannot part with the jeep so I now have about 40k to do whatever I want to it. First thing that is getting replaced is everything underneath. I have skid plates but bumpers and sliders will be next. My current bumpers are just stock with the front chopped to make it narrow. It currently sits on 315s and other then that its stock. It has served me well on the trails.
LX570 (aka Lexus Land Cruiser). 35x12.5R20s tires. Sensor lifted (1") with suspension in high mode (3"), is ~4" total suspension lift. 16" center clearance to frame rail. 112.2" wheelbase. Approach 35 degrees, Breakover 31.8 degrees, Departure 34 degrees
For the wheeling I do getting all my heavy items first rockslides front and rear bumpers and skids all installed cheap spacer and shackle lift. working on gearing and upgrading the front dif first currently running down my 33s once I get the stuff for gearing ima do 35s then going all out on suspension
1st questions should be "What are you wanting to do with that vehicle". If you are just overlanding and not going full blown crazy at the Rubicon or Prichett Canyon do you need anything more than 35" tires as example? Define your purpose and build from there.
Depends on your Jeep. 37’s on a JL is like 35’s on a JK, and 39’s on a JT is like 37’s in a JL.
Like you said depending on what have cause I have 94 Chevy suburban on 6 inch lift and 35 nitto trail grapps with a Detroit true trac with 3.73 in the and 3.73 open in the front and it will basically crawl over anything in 2 wheel drive and i have it axle deep in ruts and walked thru but I most do more mud range off-roading
Added 35's to my 2020 Stock rimmed Rubicon and may at some point to a small lift...My offroading will consist of beach and some trails here in NJ. So not rock crawling or anything crazy. Can see going getting a second Jeep at some point to have one for overlanding/Camping and one for top off fun.
the jeep at 3:00 omggggg
A definite pucker moment.
2:58 you think he spoiled his pants? LOL
😂
Tj 2 inch supenion lift flat skid on 36s rear axle moved back 2 inches front out about .75 of a inch break over angle around 40 degrees.
01 XJ 6" LIFT 33"S . To be fair i wanted a 4" but a 6" was sent to me, so its not my fault. around 38 deg angle.
I have the 2024 4xe Willy’s and it’s stock and with 10,000 hard miles on it I’ve had O issues getting where I want to go lol however I’m not stupid and think before approaching departing a obstacle
Why litter? At 6:33 the red jeep passenger tosses trash out the window onto the side of the trail.
We are actively hunting him down!
It's people like you that mess it up for everyone. The land 'owner' I'm sure doesn't want the trash
95 geo tracker 2 door convertible. 4.5" Altered Ego lift. 35" buckshot mudders, for now. 89.5" wheel base, 18" of clearance. That comes out to almost 44" breakover angle. I suppose I should cancel plans for the 2" body lift and maybe even switch to 33" tires. I don't have an angle finder for the approach or departure angles but I don't have any bumpers on it right now and the front end only sticks out about a half inch past the tires. I would guess it would have about an 80 degree approach angle. The rear is almost the same.
Edit. I was talking about approach and departure angles, but I should have been focusing on tip over angles. See pic to the left.
Upgrading to heavier axles will also provide great stability while allowing you to increase body clearance
Depends on what you mean by heavier axles 30s and 35s are not big strong axles but they are more compact then 44 on 9 inch. In fact the Rockwell's will beat all those in strength and durability however their clearance sucks, they are heavy, and super low geared. Now if you want max clearance and money is not a huge issue I would hands down say portals are the best.
2002 Jeep TJ 20" under the skid. 95" wheelbase with a break-over of 45.7 degrees. Currently on 33s and Dana 44s.
The best value for money upgrade when it comes to performance is front and rear lockers! You could spend $3k on lockers or $3k on suspension but lockers will always get you further.
Tires.
@@iffykidmn8170 Tires all day long. The right tires will not do everything, but they will do more than lockers with tires that can't grip.
Tires. Front lockers are only needed if you suck
Jeep WJ 4 inch long arm 33s 106 wheelbase, and 14 inches of ground clearance and a 2016 Jeep Wrangler front bumper for enhanced entrance angle
I have any '08 Wrangler JK 4dr 116" wheelbase with 3.5" lift and run 35's. My break over angle is 28.1 degrees. This works for what I need with occasional trail riding in the Rockies here in western Canada🇨🇦
Thats pretty much perfect so why 40s then 🤔
@@MS-kh2je 40's?
Only true lift is tires, a 12" lift with stock sized tires will still get hung up on the pumpkin, build your vehicle for it's intended use, a experienced driver and spotter in a stock vehicle can make it where even the most built vehicle with no experience can. Don't chop your frame, add lockers add bumpers and winches if you just drive the kiddos to school and back it's a waste of money and everyone will be laughing at your mall crawler, even the guy in the Honda Ridgeline
Even the guy in the Honda ridgeline🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, remember you're not allowed to buy what you want. Only parts approved by internet experts.
Mall Crawlin sounds pretty cool though now that they’re all empty. Buy 100 truckloads of dirt and build a trail from one end of the mall to the other.
Be careful not to mis-gender the "guy" in the Ridgeline.
Largest tires possible with the smallest lift possible to clear is the best for offroad performance
still debating an aluminum replica of the Rubicon steel bumper ( MP concepts ). I try to keep my jeep function over form. Just don't know if I'd use it enough to justify, especially with the rising gas prices. Looking more to overland/ blizzard fighter in the winter months
This video was spot on, 15' taco overland build
Thanks! We are gearing up to build our Tacoma for Trailbuilt!
after some mods to my 2010 Grand Vitara (30.5 tires, 2 inch lift) i get
10.9 inches of clearance with my 103.9 wheelbase giving me only a 23.9 breakover.
my departure and approach angles are much better tho, 42 in the front and 33 in the rear.
needless to say ,my skidplates get a workout when i go to some more adventurous spots
For me it is simple to report what the current state is, as it is stock, so stock I still haven't taken delivery of it (happening in December) :) Approach 31, break over 22, departure is 24... It is an Isuzu D-Max, wheelbase is 3125mm. I'm not planning anything crazy, a small lift, slight increase in tyre size and it has to be a daily driver too.
Thanks. I’ve been through most of this in the H1/Humvee. My Jeep is not remotely ready for any of this.
I have a 2009 chevy tahoe with a 2" suspension lift and road tires but I'm more into sand dunes so it's perfect for me
I might change the tires soon but for now, it's perferct
my break over angle sucks with 181 inch wheelbase. Ram Megacab long bed on 37 inch tires.
if i remember I can give you the clearance i do know at stock my Nissan Titan 2023 was 9.8" ground clearance but i just did a 6" lift so'll need to measure it now.
When i told people that i was going to lift my ZJ 7in i for a lot of flak for it. People saying it was too tall, that i was going to be too tippy, that i was building a "Mall crawler" etc.
Never had an issue with any of that. Never tipped or rolled over. In fact, i have a video on my TH-cam channel taken shortly after i installed the lift of my ZJ climbing a 7ft waterfall. Despite having only 33s and open diffs, I was the only rig to make it over that ledge in a group of 15 jeeps, including a few well built JKUs on 37s. They all got hung up on their cross members.
In the video you can see all of the spotters just assuming i would take the easier bypass just because i was the least built rig and they all assumed that since they all failed, i wouldn't even try. Then i just rolled right up and over.
th-cam.com/video/0VN3N2GM1g4/w-d-xo.html
Always a pleasure watching your videos. Large amounts of information given in short amounts of time without a bunch of exaggeration. Great job
Thank you very much! We appreciate your support!
u can raise your frame up all u want but your true ground clearance is caused by tire height,i have 13 inches to bottom of diff's using only 35 in tires,on a 79 bronco
3:00 holy moly how did that thing not break in half.. how did that tire survive
spotter maybe?...nice getting himself out of trouble. Could have been catastrophic.
I have and ride a Honda dirt bike. I LOVE it!!!
Very cool video, I’m really new to off roading with my 2015 JKU rubicon
Might be worth pointing out that while too much breakover angle has cons, there is no penalty for maximizing approach and departure angles.
How am I supposed to pay attention to what you’re saying when you got such great B roll playing?
The key is watching it at least 20,163 times
I am building an 87 K5 Blazer. It is currently on 35" tires with a 6" Suspension lift. I do not know what the approach, and departure angles are.
Love the footage from the Upper Terminator trail in AZ.
The early vids looked like Elvis out by Florence.
2020 Ram Warlock. 141 wheel base and 14" clearance on level kit and 1" lift on 35x12.5r20 and my Break over is 22.5° which is close to my Departure Angle. But my approach angles is way closer to the desired 30° Hope this helps others as well.
I got a 2000 4runner stock and it's already top heavy
I'd like to buy 2014 dodge durango or 2009 jeep commander and do a lift kit, bigger tires and underbody protection which the total vehicle hight won't exceed 2 meter due to dally usage and offroad ready
24 crosstrek 14 1/2 " ground clearance 24°ap, 25ish break, 35°dep
4"lift
225/75/r16 29.2" yokohama geolandar at xd. 2" more than oem tires
My BC Customs SRTV Rig on 40" Maxxis Trepadors features long-travel suspension and has an approach angle of 74°, a departure angle of 37° and a break over angle of 32°, while the sidehill angle is 45°! I couldn't add my rig to your site, it doesn't have a place for "Other" for Brand or Type
Buy a Unimog.
Lmao@ 2:36 buddy tries to grab the jeep's rear end as it leans forward to stop it from going over 😂😂
I saw a Porsche Cayenne with a 3 inch lift this weekend. I didn't know if I should give him a nod, or shake my head. I was interested as to why, but he took off before I could ask.
Where was this? We know a guy...
Get adjustable gas suspension, you can have any angle you want without losing stability on highway
Its interesting. A Gladiator needs 18 inches of ground clearance to have the same break over angle as a 2 door JL with 12 inches of clearance.
Yeah Wheel base is something else
I've got a yj with leaf springs would I still go from the bumper to the tire or to the spring shackle to find the approach and departure angle
Ramp over angle it's called in Australia, approach, ramp, departure angle
Was hoping you'd have pictures of what you talking about like the thumbnail that would be awesome.
I just bought a set of wheel and tires from you guys for my 2021 jeep wrangler Rubicon. I opted for balancing beads in the tires. My question is , do the beads need to warm up before they smooth out cuz I just took a short ride and felt that the steering wheel was shaking a bit. It didn't do this with the stock 33" tires. I realized that buying tires on line that there is no local help and you guys don't post your phone number on the web site.
Hey Larry! Our customer service team is going to be best suited to answer all of your questions and they can be reached either by email at: sales@trailbuiltoffroad.com or by phone at: 920-689-6849. Thanks much
They did a really nice video on wheel weights, including balancing beads that I belive will answer your question. But yes, it does take the beads a bit to actually settle in. Here's the video link: th-cam.com/video/T3n7Rx91cDg/w-d-xo.html
For others considering dyna beads or balance beads they don't need warming up the Balance starts to work at around 20mph
@2:37 What in the heck was that guy doing? Was he seriously trying to catch that Jeep?
Definitely a clip for your next Safety on the Trail video.
I agree 😂
Really informative. Thank you.
Let's talk about the crazy footage running in the background. Wow!
My 100% stock two door Rubicon would likely not make it through these trails.
Did you see at 3minutes in? Holy shit.
@@danielmembrillo6472, yeah. That was unbelievable.
I have been high centered off my old rams transfer case it really sucked had to be very careful
I had issues with that in my Jeep wj. My solution was swap in a high pinion front axle and the I clocked my transfer Case 11 degrees . Now I have a flat under carriage.
What Ram?
I have no idea what all of my angles are on my Tacoma. I need if try and figure it out lol
thoughts on the new rubicon with the xtreme recon package stock from jeep as a set up?
judging by how i see some people around jack their trucks up I would see most have no clue as to what they are doign but go with its higher its better
What is the measurement called for when you are driving off a shelf or some other near vertical obstacle and you bury your front bumper in the ground before your front tires hit the ground? I had never considered this "angle" before last week, when I drove off the side of a wash, which luck would have it, crumbled and I was able to avoid going nose first into the dirt at the bottom.
By the way, love the style on the videos, I like the down to earth, factual narration, the good info and the way everything is provided with a why...one thing that would be nice is some captions on where the trails are that are being used to demonstrate the topics discussed...obviously southern AZ from the saguaro cactus I see, but those are some hardcore trails!
Approach
Loved this brother!!👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
stock 1500 apparently break over angle of 12.5 degrees.
Stock Wrangler with 33inches covers 90% of scenarios for amateur. I would say the next step would be Fox 4inch lift and 35s+. But still if you make mistakes like putting wide tires (no point), too weak engine you end up 5 meters far than me in wrangler 😂
the trail at :25 where is this at love the cactuses and stuff
Do you have those formulas written out or an annotated drawing would be great too.
Any chance showing how to do all of this measurements? 🙁
My break over angle, approach angle and departure angle are... present.
This was a pretty good segment. I think a couple of graphics would have nailed your explanations though.
If Jeeps were really 'trail rated', wouldn't they have all this stuff built in from the factory? The Toyota FJ-40 would go everywhere right off the showroom floor.
What size tyres do I add to the new 5 door JIMNY which has a 2590 Mm wheelbase with a 24degree break over angle. Presently it has 195/80R15 tyres. Would a 235/75R15 be ok ? Thanks
Low cog and flat skids FTW.
I don’t like it when some people buy a jeep and dress it all nice. Then they don’t use it for what it’s for . It’s not a street vehicle it’s an off road vehicle. If you want a nice vehicle or a street vehicle by a Bentley Corvette Cadillac or Mercedes or whatever other car you like. But don’t use a jeep as a daily commuter because that’s not what it is a lot of people buy jeeps or just a bunch of followers. And this is just my opinion don’t get offended🙄💪🏼🇲🇽🇺🇸👊🏼
The one thing I can guarantee, once you build it you will always want to go bigger.
Completely zoned out and just watched the rock crawling.
Also definitely invest in a winch better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. And unless your competing in timed events or something you don't really need name brand. Cause I have seen cheap and expensive ones in action and the only difference you will notice is how fast the line comes in. And if that's your focus get what they call the god winch. A pto driven winch very dangerous but very very fast. And don't get one that is just rated for your vehicles weight at least double it heavier rating is better always.
When you lift it and get the rims n tires .. someone is always going to bad mouth you for having done a great job. It's called jealousy.
Very good info for folks to know.
Its good to see someone finally talking about this, not to mention a whole video