This was a big project so I hope you all enjoy it! You may have noticed that I didn’t use any music from Hero, Sephiroth, or Sora. Sadly the music from their packs can receive copyright claims, so I had to use “replacement” songs. I think most of what I picked fit well at least, so hopefully that’s ok with all of you!
The Xenoblade composers also made some of the best and most popular remixes including “Gangplank Galleon”, “Beneath The Mask”, “Halland/Dalarna”, and the “Animal Crossing Theme” remix
It’s nice hearing someone say they like Steve, unlike a friend of mine who says Steve is “One of the worst characters in the game” just because *I’m* not good with him…..
That's really relatable. Two of my best friends say Steve requires no skill and that he sucks. They only say it since me and my brother main Steve and are good with him. Oh and they main Ness and Lucas.
There are people out there who will not like minecraft steve but with good reason and there are going to be people who will not like him for dumb reasons. I do consider him the 3nd worst dlc character his music and how much work they put into the character is what keeps him from being the worst
If anything steve is one of the most advanced characters in the game that require skill to play Especially with all the multi-tasking that is needed (mining, crafting, managing resources and staying alive whilst doing it)
None of the challenger packs were even bad. Sakurai and the team really went out of their way for every single DLC. Pyra Mythra placing is absolutely infuriating because the songs are amazing. The stage I can agree isn’t much fun but the characters are so much fun
He's pretty cool, I never liked him but I can't deny it's a great character and I'm glad we finally have a dragon quest representative I remember always playing the one dragon quest game with the giant tower thingy and the bag guy was named sum like xelphox
Another point against Myra (yes I’m calling them that): Nintendo gave them individual “gimmicks,” Mythra’s is a kind of interesting dodge, but Pyra’s is just saying that her F-smash is strong. Nintendo tried so hard to give them more of a gimmick than just being switchable that in the Moves List, Pyra has an entire tab that just says her F-smash is strong, which is just dumb.
Yeah like corrin's f-smash is more unique in that it deals damage while charging and it didn't get a whole tab unlike Pyra's which is just a doriyah copycat. And foresight is literally stolen from bayo
Bruh forsight is iconic from their game so it makes sense to add it, in fact it would be weird to not have it somewhere. They didn’t try “so hard” it literally makes sense to add it, and by how rare forsight even is it’s more like a cool nod as opposed to a “gimmick”. Them switching also is a much better gimmick than a ANOTHER generic comeback mechanic (or big arm/wonderwing). As for the section with Pyra’s fsmash, Sakurai probably wanted to show how different they felt from eachother. Since they have the same animations for their normals, unless he shows the major difference people will assume they are the same. He would do a bad job showcasing them if people think the are the same exact character. Plus why would they push so hard for a “gimmick” like that when Sora and Banjo (and arguably Min Min) have hardly any gimmicks like at all. He also probably wanted to show people how strong Pyra was because otherwise Mythra would get all the spotlight, even though Pyra is 50% of the character. That or he’s just a simp idk, he DOES prefer Pyra after all.
I commend you for your effort in this video. I respect your opinion and also agree with Steve's pack being the best. I also understand your take on "Pythra"'s pack... mostly. I fail to get or accept the part about the music. Xenoblade is known for its excellent soundtrack and while I'd also agree that not all of the new tracks were bangers or anything, but a good few like Mor Ardain, Battle/Torna, Gormott and Incoming are, at least in my opinion and from what I've seen many others' as well, very good tracks. Otherwise, great video! :D
You’re really gonna knock Xenoblade for music?! There’s no way you gave it a proper listen if you think they’re all bad tracks. Moving on to something more subjective- Byleth feels way worse than Pyra/Mythra in my opinion. While I’ll admit their moveset does feel basic, Pyra and Mythra at least feel coherent, where Byleth feels really off since they wield 4 different fucking weapons and have a massive dissonance in feeling from move to move.
I was legit shocked when he said Pyra/Mythra had a bad selection of songs. For a franchise that is known for having phenomenal OSTs, saying the song selection is bad just feels odd.
Here's my top 12 Dlc choices (including Phirana Plant) 12. Min Min 11. Byleth 10. Phirana Plant 9. Kazuya 8. Terry 7. Banjo and Kazooie 6. Pyra / Mythra 5. Steve 4. Joker 3. Hero 2. Sephrioth 1. Sora
I’m probably one of the few Byleth fans here, but I also really like Steve, current opinion on Sora is that he’s really fun lol, I think the 3 I mentioned are the 3 best for me, there all fun to use & not too annoying to fight for me Update on my comment, my 3rd is Sephiroth instead of Sora Edit X2: I actually hate fighting Sora & don’t really like playing Sora
I don’t have a funny comment, I’m just hear to say you’re extremely underrated and I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos (which is a lot). Keep up the great work.
@@Odyssey_Central I mean I'm three in and I haven't Seen Banjo yet My favorite Character of the list because of the way he feels and plays like the original 12 he feels so true to himself and is a really cool character that I feel like would be a cool return
@@IcyDiamond it's nice to see people actually respecting each other's opinions instead of attacking them for having a different opinion (even though you guys had similar opinions). My personal favorite was Steve since I have been a Minecraft fan for a super long time but Sephiroth was a great one too.
5:35 "I mean sure Kirby & Animal Crossing are far more popular but the characters aren't as suited for fighting" Bandana Dee, Rick, Kine, Coo, Marx, Gooey, Adeleine, Dark Meta Knight, Daroach, Magolor, Taranza, Susie, Fransisca, Flamberge, Zan Partizanne, & Prince Fluff: "Am I a joke to you?"
As a Kirby fan,that's excactly what I was thinking,if anything Kirby should have more reps than Legend of Zelda Also Galacta Knight and Chef Kawasaki would work too
Oddesey, have you cared to listen to Battle Torna from Xenoblade chronicles 2? Frankly I see it in almost every smash related video as background music and insaneintherain made a cover of it so it’s bound to be good.
"The worst ARMS song is better than the best Xenoblade Chronicles 2 song." Bruh, if you're saying you prefer "Vs. Hedlok" to "Mor Ardain -Roaming the Wastes-," you have bad taste in music, my friend.
Kazuya was easily my favourite dlc character I was asking for him since day one so when I heard Emotionless Passion playing and seen Ganondorf getting thrown off the cliff I jumped out my seat and shouted out loud "GET IN YOU BEAUTY!"
Jin or Heihachi could’ve been in, but I think Kazuya is great. Having him in Smash made me get into Tekken and he’s my favorite character in the game due to a great move set that stays true to the source material, Heihachi in the background of Mishima dojo still makes me happy and it’s just a great choice for two other popular Tekken characters that couldn’t get in.
@@monsterjamfan100xtreme4 Heihachi was originally planned to be added to the roster however the voice actor Unshō Ishizuka passed away in 2018 which means his voice lines in Tekken 7 was his last recorded. R.I.P legend 🙏
@@jpronan8757Sakurai also stated that he found it difficult to make a move set for Heihachi in the past, since making him too close to Tekken would make him weak in Smash (too slow and no recovery), and changing him too much would lose the essence of Tekken. Kazuya was the more viable choice in the end since he can use his devil attacks as specials and recovery while his normals would be as they are in Tekken (plus an homage to him being the protag of the first Tekken)
Just a quick correction I wanted to make, Jokers victory screens are NOT based off of Persona 5, 4, and 3, but just 5. The color changes with the color of mementos, or the player number color if not on mementos. Persona 3 and 4 have wildly different winning screens and songs. Other than that, great video!
Just a quick correction to your correction, the victory screens themselves are only based on 5, with different colors depending on the song if playing on mementos, however the victory song does change between 5, 4, and 3’s depending on which song you use (once again this only works on mementos), also the color of the victory screen does not change depending on player number.
Wonderful video! Can’t agree on the rankings and I don’t agree with most of the lower critiques, but with this being an opinion piece, you did justice to your passions and it shows 😁 great stuff!
@@kermitodingeverywhere Personally I don't know what one would consider spamming the eggs,for one,I pop them every now and then,but just to leave an opening when I'm unable to approach,if that is considered spamming then I get it now.Now on the "not fun", I guess it is very subjective but I still dont get what Makes a character like Joker or Terry(Most common examples don't know how you feel about them) fun while other characters are not
Bro insults pyrthra, understandable, BRO INSULTS XENOBLADE CHRONICALS TWO MUSIC WHICH IS USED , IN LIKE EVERY GAMING VIDEO ,I RAGE. Edit: I got a ad using Xenoblade chroninicals 2 music on this video
6:50 if you’ve played Three Houses (which I haven’t) you’d know that the colors represent four of the most important characters, being the House leaders and Sothis. The 8th alt should’ve been something different, though, maybe a Jeralt or Rhea skin, since female Byleth as is now has two green hair skins.
I agree with this whole list, though I'd put Pyra/Mythra higher. About Steve, I LOVE HIM! He plays amazingly and his game was a huge part of my childhood, back when I also played Xbox. It's crazy that Mario and Steve are in the same game. I would go on a whole reverse rant, but I'm too lazy. I'm trying to make him my second best character, and who knows, maybe he will be better than my Pythra someday? And I don't know if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but Fighters Pass 2 > Fighters Pass 1+Piranha Plant
I heavily disagree with the bottom two. Pyra/Mythra is deserved, and I've been waiting for a Xenoblade 2 character since Ultimate was announced, and their song choice is fantastic, a ton of them are better than a majority of the original Xenoblade's songs in Smash (Death Match with Torna, Counterattack. You Will Recall Our Names, Driver Vs, Mor Ardain, Bringer of Chaos, Battle!! Torna, are all amazing). As for Byleth, I just think it's a solid choice. I dont really care how many FE characters their are, especially since half of them are just Echoes. Ike, Corrin, Robin, and Byleth are the only wholly unique ones. All the rest are different shades of the same two movesets.
My rankings (don’t care for movesets just how much I enjoy to play it casually) 12. Piranha Plant (funny addition and interesting character but idk barely play him anymore) 11. Min Min (Cool mechanically but the way the implemented, it sucked) 10. Banjo (good for the fans but nothing about him elsewhere just was boring his move set is kinda bad and he is just annoying to play against) Everyone from here on I love to play and will probably continue to play: 9. Sora (this is how you make a character people wanted fun to play) 8. Byleth (controversial I know and I’m one who doesn’t like many of the fire emblem characters but Byleth is one of my favorite characters every added and honestly gets too much hate) 7. Kazuya (the reveal was kinda lame but the character itself is fantastic and fun to play and I enjoy his moves) 6. Terry (never knew who he was before smash and honestly still don’t but very appreciated and I seriously love his GO mechanic) 5. Sephiroth (I wasn’t much of a fan of Cloud good he was in for the fans but once Sephiroth came I knew I would enjoy him and I was correct he is one of the most fun characters IMO) 4. Pyra/Mythra (I seriously don’t get the hate for these two, the fact they brought back the double character in one back from Brawl and honestly never played Xenoblade but honestly with there addition I’ll need to look into it) 3. Joker (the pass started off perfect with this character, a little bit of everything for both casual and competitive characters I also got into his game with his addition) 2. Steve (this is one of my most requested characters this guy is an ICON and honestly don’t understand why they didn’t just start the second pass off with him) 1. Hero (This character is the definition of casual, love how unique he is with all of his spells on his down B and as well as crits) Unleash your hate in the comments below, this is just my opinion no need to hate
@@wow8247 have you meet Min Min or Banjo, something tells me that you get your butt kicked by Steve or you like Fortnite I can’t tell but it’s your opinion
Terry is practically the Link of fighting games. If you're not into Nintendo (fighting games), you won't know him, but if you are, you'll know him very well.
Fun fact: I heard that it was planned where you can connect your Minecraft worlds to smash ultimate as a custom stage. It would have been interesting to have that and custom skins if you have minecraft switch/bedrock. Edit: if this and the porting of minecraft maps for the switch version like using mcpedl or planet minecraft I would love to make an arena using levels from my map.
My ranking: Keep in mind, i like all the dlcs. 11. Pyra/Mythra. I think a Xenoblade character is cool, but I don't think the character is very fun to play as. 6.5/10 10. Min Min. She's just fine. The character is unique, but she's just fine. 7/10 9. Banjo and Kazooie. They 101% deserved to be in the game, but the gameplay of the character is boring. Also, the music and stage they came with are underwhelming. 7.3/10 8. Terry. I love Terry, much like the whole top 8. These were really hard to choose. But out of the top 8, he's my least favorite. The music and stage is quite good. 8/10 7. Sora. I might get crucified, but let me explain. I love sora. he's not my favorite to play as. I also think his music and stage are great. 8.2/10 6. Joker. joker is an overall great pack. character is fun, songs are great, stage is good, just overall great. 8.5/10 5. Hero. Hero is super fun. I love the gimmick he has with down b. Also, the alts are PHENOMONAL. 4 characters in one is a great package. the stage is good, and the music is ok. 8.8/10. 4. Kazuya. He's just incredibly fun. I love the gimmick, and he's just so powerful. Stage and music are both great, and so are his alts. 9/10 3. Steve. Steve is just INCREDIBLE! The fact that he's in the game is just mind blowing. Also, the amount of effort that was put in was great. The character's gimmick s great, with his mining. Much like Hero, the alts are phenomonal. The package is great. The stage is great, but the music is just ok. 9.2/10. 2. Sephiroth. The character was probably the most hype and coolest of all the characters. The gameplay is incredible, stage is incredible and the music is also great. 9.4/10 1. Byleth. This is my most controversial opinion. I know people were not excited at all for Byleth, I get that. But, I just think byleth's gameplay is son unique. I love powerful characters and byleth covers that. The character is great, and so is the stage. But the thing that brings her to number one is the music. My favorite song in Smash bros, The Edge of dawn came with Byleth, and Oh. My. god. It's so good. 9.6/10
Thank you for not hating Byleth and actually looking at what they bring to the game. They were a very good addition if you aren't bias against Fire Emblem.
Call me bias but my favourite dlc fighter is joker. The reasons are: I love persona 5 Mementos sometimes has characters appear from p5 like fox or skull as examples I love the final smash I love the attention to detail Voice lines Music
Man, Pyra and Mythra's placement shocked me, I love playing them, I love the rapid ability to essentially change movesets, it feels so fun, like a trickster whom you dont know what they'll go for, will they combo into photon edge? A smash? Ray of punishment? Or will they switch to Pyra to hit you with a Flame Nova, I like Pyra and Mythra
I also dont agree with the music thing, to a point, I do agree it is kinda lackluster, seriously, no Drifting Souls? But they added Battle!!/Torna, Counterattack and Bringer of Chaos got a remix and Thoes Who stand Against Our Path is here too
it's pretty clear that he's just biased against the characters and the franchise, he didn't have any real critisms against them just "i don't like them" over and over again. Ranking it below Byleth and banjo is telling
As a huge fan of Xenoblade who was absolutely ecstatic to see Pyra/Mythra be added to the roster, I'm obviously upset about them being in the bottom spot. But that's not even that big of a deal. Whatever, different people have different opinions and different preferences. But you're seriously going to say that the Pyra/Mythra music selection is one of the worst ones of the packs??? The Xenoblade franchise as a whole is well-known for consistently having some of the best OSTs in the genre. I can understand you not liking Pyra/Mythra as fighters, but what you said about the music selection is just baffling to me.
Back when I voted for Steve in the Smash 4 ballot (which was probably the hardest decision of my entire life), I truly didn't think he actually had a chance, but I sure am glad he did. I mean, every time I see him being played I learn new tricks!
Pyra and Mythra are of course my favorite DLC with also Hero. It's thanks to them i played Xenoblade 2 and Dragon Quest 11 and after that these become my favorite games of all time Thanks Smash ultimate !!!
I think this is why there are so many fire emblem characters, you see there is always different main characters in the fire emblem series, but in Zelda, Link is the main character in every game and what Zelda characters could get into smash.
Yeah sure fair but 1. We already another fire emblem character (sure it was an Echo fighter but still) 2. Who Said every single part of a Game/series HAS to be represented by a fighter not to be disrepectful or anything though...
When each challenger pack came out, I tested them out by playing through the entire world of light story using only that character and I was only able to do it with only 5 of the 11 characters. Those will be my top 5, however the order is based on the rest of their pack with music being first and stage being second. 1. Byleth - couldn't stop playing as him when he came out, he's the reason why I started playing Fire Emblem Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes, Best music out of all the challenger packs. 2. Sora - Huge Disney fan, never played Kingdom Hearts, but the music is amazing. Character is super fun to play as. Stage is gorgeous. 3. Hero - Favourite stage out of all the challenger packs because of the beautiful backgrounds. 4. Pyra/Mythra - My main and the character I played as the most out of all the DLC characters. 5. Terry 6. Joker 7. Sephiroth 8. Banjo & Kazooie 9. Kazuya 10. Min Min - never won a single fight playing as Min Min 11. Steve - never won a single fight playing as Steve
The big reason FE characters get into Smash so much is the same reason there are so many Pokemon, they're a Second Party Company that Nintendo wants to keep happy. If you consider it on company lines: Nintendo has the most representation, and numbers 2 and 3 are Game Freak and Intelligent Systems, each getting tons of reps for their flagship series. It's also why Rex was planned for base game in Ultimate and Pyra/Mythra made the DLC, Xenoblade is made by Monolithsoft, a budding second party studio. Mark my words: In the next Smash game we will get a new rep for each of those series. A new Pokemon, a New Fire Emblem Lord, and a new Xenoblade protagonist.
I completely agree with Steve being number one. I also grew up with the Minecraft mini games on console and recognized toys on a tear immediately as Shrunk was one of my favorite stages. Also 39:38 lmao
I agree about Steve in Smash, because he was my most recommended character and I’m just glad that he got in, Pyra and Mythra were also one but it okay to see what others opinion about these characters. Joker, Hero, Sephiroth, Sora, by my opinion one the best included, Banjo, Terry, Byleth, are good choice, I have nothing against them their games are great, but Min Min, and Kazuya, just don’t really get my attention. By far I just love some of the characters they add on these dlc packs.
How dare you! Pythra and Byleth have amazing movesets that are fun to play and they’re from hot new Switch-exclusive successful entries that stand out amongst their series. Xenoblade 2 especially is completely different from 1, and Three Houses is the new best FR game everyone’s talking about. I get that FE doesn’t deserve more reps than Zelda, but cut Chrom and maybe Corrin, maybe even Roy or Lucina, before you even think about cutting Byleth. Then there’s the music, and Xenoblade 2 and 3 Houses have, to me, the best DLC song collection. Edge of Dawn and You Will Recall Our Names are two of the hypest songs on the Switch on their own. On top of that, Claude can be enhanced into one of the most broken Primary Spirits in the game since it practically grants your fighter two buffs.
I’m actually hoping piranha plant comes back in the next smash game. Plant is super fun for me, and is my main. I get that he’s goofy, but he’s also just fun. Besides plant, we need dry bones for smash.
My ranking: 1: Pyra/Mythra (Because I'm lonely and enjoy their switching mechanic) 2: Byleth (Because I love the power of some of the moves) 3: Hero (I think the command section is really cool) 4: Min min (The arms are super interesting) 5: Sephiroth (He's just really cool) 6: Steve (I play Minecraft...) 7: Kazuya (I love the feel of his 10 hit combo) 8: Sora (He's just kinda okay) 9: Joker (He's a cool guy but I never get Arsene to come out) 10: Terry (He doesn't really have anything interesting. Also I'm bad and can't input any of his GO moves) 11: Banjo & Kazooie (Move set is boring) This is based almost solely on gameplay because the character itself and the music and stuff like that isn't that important to me. I just rank them based on how fun they are to play as.
This list is agreeable for me. Sry I am late, but since my favorite games r Pokémon and Minecraft this is a dream come true for me. I feel that the bottom 2/3 are interchangeable, and the top spots are justifiable, especially Steve. My only regret is that u put sora low down: he may have been the closest to breaking twitter other than Steve. Otherwise, this list is excellent and I hope to see more smash content from u in the future.
I like Byleth very much more than Piranha, Min Min and Pyra/Mythra, but, yeah, as a Fire Emblem Fan myself.... Not deserved that spot. I truly like Fire Emblem, and Byleth in Smash but, that spot was just comercial trash. Give FE a chance tho, is a cool series.
My personal list is: 12: Byleth (worst character inclusion of all time to me) 11: Pyra & Mythra 10: Sephiroth 9: Terry 8: Kazuya 7: Hero 6: Joker 5: Min Min 4: Sora 3: Banjo-Kazooie 2: Piranha Plant 1: Steve
I really like Pyra and Mythra but talking generaly i am kind of sad that everyone say is one of the worst, it feels bad liking something that everyone says its bad :( Anyway, nice videos as always Odyssey! I really apreciate this awesome video, and really hope ylu keep doing more content.
I haven't played Xenoblade Chronicles 2, but I main Pyra and Mythra and am really disappointed about his review about the music. I mean, come on! They are absolute bangers (my personal favorite being "Mor Ardain -Roaming the Wastes-")!
@@PauloM6414 Nah the guy is just biased. How is he gonna talk bad about Xenoblade 2 music but then put Steve at the top when Steve brought the least amount of songs out of all the challenger packs.
I'm quite happy that pyra and mythra got into smash. They are the only sword characters I like to play, and it also got me to play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well.
I rlly wish we got the house leaders Dimitri Edelgard and Claude rather than byleth, they would’ve brought something new to the table considering none of them are sword fighters
Gosh these really are hard to separate, huh. For Joker they pulled out ALL the stops, and yet it ended up with so much competition pretty much straight away. It's crippling how low Banjo has to go when he might be one of the biggest additions of the bunch, but argh I wish he was just more fun. Hero the complete opposite, why on EARTH is that guy so entertaining, man
This was a big project so I hope you all enjoy it! You may have noticed that I didn’t use any music from Hero, Sephiroth, or Sora. Sadly the music from their packs can receive copyright claims, so I had to use “replacement” songs. I think most of what I picked fit well at least, so hopefully that’s ok with all of you!
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I'm calling it, he's going put steve in every spot
11. Steve
10. Steve
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5. Steve
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2. Steve
1. Enderman
0. Scottish Steve
@@IcyDiamond how dare you forget about Alex and Zombie.
-1. Steve's meat
@@Wyrmington RIP Steve’s Meat 2020-2020, Gone but never forgotten
I'm gonna say this much, I've never once played a Xenoblade game but Roaming the Wastes is an absolute banger
Highly recommend xenoblade 1 (switch version), haven’t played 2 yet though
If you like that look up speed of kirb X
You’ll love it
Edit: look up speed of kirb 11 instead
The Xenoblade composers also made some of the best and most popular remixes including “Gangplank Galleon”, “Beneath The Mask”, “Halland/Dalarna”, and the “Animal Crossing Theme” remix
counterattack slaps
@@RichardHannay Those are like, the best remixes in smash what the heck
Xenoblade composers really stay on top 🔥🔥🔥
This is the spookiest halloween video ever.
yes ikr
When you mentioned Steve's bad alt I was really hoping it wouldn't be Scottish Steve.
Thank you for not hating Scottish Steve
It’s nice hearing someone say they like Steve, unlike a friend of mine who says Steve is “One of the worst characters in the game” just because *I’m* not good with him…..
That's really relatable. Two of my best friends say Steve requires no skill and that he sucks. They only say it since me and my brother main Steve and are good with him. Oh and they main Ness and Lucas.
I can see why when in smash, you only require 1 iron to make a minecart whereas in Minecraft you need 9.
@@bruhm0ment6000 that’s more a balancing thing than anything else
There are people out there who will not like minecraft steve but with good reason and there are going to be people who will not like him for dumb reasons.
I do consider him the 3nd worst dlc character his music and how much work they put into the character is what keeps him from being the worst
If anything steve is one of the most advanced characters in the game that require skill to play
Especially with all the multi-tasking that is needed (mining, crafting, managing resources and staying alive whilst doing it)
None of the challenger packs were even bad. Sakurai and the team really went out of their way for every single DLC. Pyra Mythra placing is absolutely infuriating because the songs are amazing. The stage I can agree isn’t much fun but the characters are so much fun
yeah except Banjo or Min Min
@@godther1391 NONE was bad
“None” Uhh, Joker? Byleth? Sephiroth? PYRA? KAZUYA!? *SORA!?*
@@jaxsterminator8634 they were all incredible, what are you on
@@jaydon__bmore0717 They weren’t
Dry Bones for Smash 6 is something I’ll never get used to.
His Moveset would be so OP
@Conor Mulhall I'll think about it soon
Yes add me!! Add me!!!!!!!
Because it’s true dry bones for smash
Nice to see Hero rank so high up, he is definitely one of my personal favorites to play.
He's pretty cool, I never liked him but I can't deny it's a great character and I'm glad we finally have a dragon quest representative I remember always playing the one dragon quest game with the giant tower thingy and the bag guy was named sum like xelphox
@imdobbergd As an Dragon Quest fan who just started the franchise with DQ8 & DQ11, this makes me happy.
Another point against Myra (yes I’m calling them that): Nintendo gave them individual “gimmicks,” Mythra’s is a kind of interesting dodge, but Pyra’s is just saying that her F-smash is strong. Nintendo tried so hard to give them more of a gimmick than just being switchable that in the Moves List, Pyra has an entire tab that just says her F-smash is strong, which is just dumb.
Yeah like corrin's f-smash is more unique in that it deals damage while charging and it didn't get a whole tab unlike Pyra's which is just a doriyah copycat. And foresight is literally stolen from bayo
Bruh forsight is iconic from their game so it makes sense to add it, in fact it would be weird to not have it somewhere. They didn’t try “so hard” it literally makes sense to add it, and by how rare forsight even is it’s more like a cool nod as opposed to a “gimmick”. Them switching also is a much better gimmick than a ANOTHER generic comeback mechanic (or big arm/wonderwing). As for the section with Pyra’s fsmash, Sakurai probably wanted to show how different they felt from eachother. Since they have the same animations for their normals, unless he shows the major difference people will assume they are the same. He would do a bad job showcasing them if people think the are the same exact character. Plus why would they push so hard for a “gimmick” like that when Sora and Banjo (and arguably Min Min) have hardly any gimmicks like at all. He also probably wanted to show people how strong Pyra was because otherwise Mythra would get all the spotlight, even though Pyra is 50% of the character. That or he’s just a simp idk, he DOES prefer Pyra after all.
@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 Corrin’s F-smash is actually pretty powerful if you hit the tip lol
@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 It actually isn't because Ganon's hits above while Pyra hits further in front so they aren't the same
I commend you for your effort in this video. I respect your opinion and also agree with Steve's pack being the best. I also understand your take on "Pythra"'s pack... mostly. I fail to get or accept the part about the music. Xenoblade is known for its excellent soundtrack and while I'd also agree that not all of the new tracks were bangers or anything, but a good few like Mor Ardain, Battle/Torna, Gormott and Incoming are, at least in my opinion and from what I've seen many others' as well, very good tracks.
Otherwise, great video! :D
They ruined counterattack. If the of was in there it probably would have been different.
Pyra and Mythra were part of the reason for getting into Xenoblade so the two blades hold a special place in my heart
Same
If Dry Bones came to Smash Bros Ultimate DLC I think we all know who the number 1 ranking will be for him.
I’m calling it guys, Byleth is going to be number one don’t tell me it’s not!!
😂😂😂😂
Well…
maybe in your opinion
@@user-wj8wn6gd3y Well, it's better than Odyssey's opinion
@@ochako_gaming true
You’re really gonna knock Xenoblade for music?! There’s no way you gave it a proper listen if you think they’re all bad tracks. Moving on to something more subjective- Byleth feels way worse than Pyra/Mythra in my opinion. While I’ll admit their moveset does feel basic, Pyra and Mythra at least feel coherent, where Byleth feels really off since they wield 4 different fucking weapons and have a massive dissonance in feeling from move to move.
I was legit shocked when he said Pyra/Mythra had a bad selection of songs. For a franchise that is known for having phenomenal OSTs, saying the song selection is bad just feels odd.
Here's my top 12 Dlc choices (including Phirana Plant)
12. Min Min
11. Byleth
10. Phirana Plant
9. Kazuya
8. Terry
7. Banjo and Kazooie
6. Pyra / Mythra
5. Steve
4. Joker
3. Hero
2. Sephrioth
1. Sora
*Piranha
what did plant do
I’m probably one of the few Byleth fans here, but I also really like Steve, current opinion on Sora is that he’s really fun lol, I think the 3 I mentioned are the 3 best for me, there all fun to use & not too annoying to fight for me
Update on my comment, my 3rd is Sephiroth instead of Sora
Edit X2: I actually hate fighting Sora & don’t really like playing Sora
I'm also a byleth fan cried at the reveal but I love both Joker and pyra and mythra and Terry very close behind
BOOTLICKER
same
Byleth is good gameplay wise he’s just a bad character for the ecosystem
Yeah I prefer playing byleth over sora but obviously he wasn’t as big
The worst thing about the Joker DLC is that it doesn’t come with Life Will Change like why?
I disagree with your pick for the worst DLC, but It was refreshing to see Byleth not on the bottom of these kinds of tier lists. Respect.
>Complaine about Xenoblade getting a second character
>”Before the pack Xenoblade only had one character”
27:40 "PURPLE GUY!" The best line I heard
I don’t have a funny comment, I’m just hear to say you’re extremely underrated and I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos (which is a lot). Keep up the great work.
Agreed
woah I though this guy had more subs
“gameplay is the most important thing for me” **puts joker over sora because of the music that joker got**
“And if you disagree that’s great!” Odyssey Central - 2021
I disagree
That’s great!
@@Odyssey_Central lol
@@Odyssey_Central I mean I'm three in and I haven't Seen Banjo yet My favorite Character of the list because of the way he feels and plays like the original 12 he feels so true to himself and is a really cool character that I feel like would be a cool return
Personally Steve will always be my favorite, though I feel in some way, every DLC Pack has been great!
I don't have a favorite DLC pack, but they're all still great to me
@@MrBulletwood There has to be one you like a little more than the others
@@IcyDiamond Hmm... Well I guess I'll say this very quickly without giving it a second thought. I'll say Sephiroth's DLC pack
@@MrBulletwood That’s one of my favorites as well!
@@IcyDiamond it's nice to see people actually respecting each other's opinions instead of attacking them for having a different opinion (even though you guys had similar opinions). My personal favorite was Steve since I have been a Minecraft fan for a super long time but Sephiroth was a great one too.
5:35 "I mean sure Kirby & Animal Crossing are far more popular but the characters aren't as suited for fighting"
Bandana Dee, Rick, Kine, Coo, Marx, Gooey, Adeleine, Dark Meta Knight, Daroach, Magolor, Taranza, Susie, Fransisca, Flamberge, Zan Partizanne, & Prince Fluff: "Am I a joke to you?"
Yeah. Animal Crossing I get but why'd he bunch Kirby in there. There's tons of characters who do a substantial amount of fighting.
As a Kirby fan,that's excactly what I was thinking,if anything Kirby should have more reps than Legend of Zelda
Also Galacta Knight and Chef Kawasaki would work too
Oddesey, have you cared to listen to Battle Torna from Xenoblade chronicles 2? Frankly I see it in almost every smash related video as background music and insaneintherain made a cover of it so it’s bound to be good.
I personally like Mor Ardain more
xenoblade music sucks!
@@tikprpro03 valid opinion
i love the you will recall our names
@@i.b.s.9179 how lol? What Beats it?
"The worst ARMS song is better than the best Xenoblade Chronicles 2 song."
Bruh, if you're saying you prefer "Vs. Hedlok" to "Mor Ardain -Roaming the Wastes-," you have bad taste in music, my friend.
THIS!!! like bru-
Some people have opinions, most of those people have bad opinions
Kazuya was easily my favourite dlc character I was asking for him since day one so when I heard Emotionless Passion playing and seen Ganondorf getting thrown off the cliff I jumped out my seat and shouted out loud "GET IN YOU BEAUTY!"
Jin or Heihachi could’ve been in, but I think Kazuya is great.
Having him in Smash made me get into Tekken and he’s my favorite character in the game due to a great move set that stays true to the source material, Heihachi in the background of Mishima dojo still makes me happy and it’s just a great choice for two other popular Tekken characters that couldn’t get in.
@@monsterjamfan100xtreme4 Heihachi was originally planned to be added to the roster however the voice actor Unshō Ishizuka passed away in 2018 which means his voice lines in Tekken 7 was his last recorded. R.I.P legend 🙏
@@jpronan8757Sakurai also stated that he found it difficult to make a move set for Heihachi in the past, since making him too close to Tekken would make him weak in Smash (too slow and no recovery), and changing him too much would lose the essence of Tekken. Kazuya was the more viable choice in the end since he can use his devil attacks as specials and recovery while his normals would be as they are in Tekken (plus an homage to him being the protag of the first Tekken)
Just a quick correction I wanted to make, Jokers victory screens are NOT based off of Persona 5, 4, and 3, but just 5. The color changes with the color of mementos, or the player number color if not on mementos. Persona 3 and 4 have wildly different winning screens and songs. Other than that, great video!
Just a quick correction to your correction, the victory screens themselves are only based on 5, with different colors depending on the song if playing on mementos, however the victory song does change between 5, 4, and 3’s depending on which song you use (once again this only works on mementos), also the color of the victory screen does not change depending on player number.
“Pyra and mythra are the worst dlc fighters” Everyone:”Kirby has found your sin unforgivable.”
He’s actually right.
Isn't it amusing he said pyra and mythra are not fun to play, but his most played character is facking kirby.
Nah tbh I think banjo is unnecessary for smsh
But it's true tho.
I'm just gonna act like he didn't just say the Three Houses music choices were better than the Xenoblade 2 choices 😩
These videos are nice to watch if you don’t have the DLC, Like myself. I have Pyra and Mythra and I am looking for the second DLC fighter to buy.
Wonderful video! Can’t agree on the rankings and I don’t agree with most of the lower critiques, but with this being an opinion piece, you did justice to your passions and it shows 😁 great stuff!
Finally someone in this comment section who respects opinions thank goodness
As someone who’s favourite game of all time is banjo-Kazooie, I agree with Banjo’s placement, so extremely disappointing to me.
Why tho,seriously WHY does NO ONE like them anymore
@@rockstarpyro1581 idk, I love banjo Kazooie, but their move set and stage are so underwhelming
@@kermitodingeverywhere But in what way?!I just don't get it,they play exactly as they should yet people think they are boring,I just don't get it
@@rockstarpyro1581 all people do with them is spam grenade and egg, their grounded neutral and aerials just aren’t fun or interesting to use
@@kermitodingeverywhere Personally I don't know what one would consider spamming the eggs,for one,I pop them every now and then,but just to leave an opening when I'm unable to approach,if that is considered spamming then I get it now.Now on the "not fun", I guess it is very subjective but I still dont get what Makes a character like Joker or Terry(Most common examples don't know how you feel about them) fun while other characters are not
Bro insults pyrthra, understandable, BRO INSULTS XENOBLADE CHRONICALS TWO MUSIC WHICH IS USED , IN LIKE EVERY GAMING VIDEO ,I RAGE.
Edit: I got a ad using Xenoblade chroninicals 2 music on this video
What
SSBU players when they saw another fucking fire emblem character being added:
This was a good ranking and i have tried and had some type of fun with these characters im actually a Banjo and kazooie and Minecraft steve main
The Xenoblade soundtrack take is extremely debatable.
Ngl, i expected you to place Hero in 10th place but i feel thankful for him being up there
9:32 you haven’t actually listened to the Xenoblade 2 OST, haven’t you?
6:50 if you’ve played Three Houses (which I haven’t) you’d know that the colors represent four of the most important characters, being the House leaders and Sothis. The 8th alt should’ve been something different, though, maybe a Jeralt or Rhea skin, since female Byleth as is now has two green hair skins.
I agree with this whole list, though I'd put Pyra/Mythra higher. About Steve, I LOVE HIM! He plays amazingly and his game was a huge part of my childhood, back when I also played Xbox. It's crazy that Mario and Steve are in the same game. I would go on a whole reverse rant, but I'm too lazy. I'm trying to make him my second best character, and who knows, maybe he will be better than my Pythra someday?
And I don't know if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but Fighters Pass 2 > Fighters Pass 1+Piranha Plant
I mean I like byleth in smash but this is your video and your opinion so I respect that
I heavily disagree with the bottom two. Pyra/Mythra is deserved, and I've been waiting for a Xenoblade 2 character since Ultimate was announced, and their song choice is fantastic, a ton of them are better than a majority of the original Xenoblade's songs in Smash (Death Match with Torna, Counterattack. You Will Recall Our Names, Driver Vs, Mor Ardain, Bringer of Chaos, Battle!! Torna, are all amazing). As for Byleth, I just think it's a solid choice. I dont really care how many FE characters their are, especially since half of them are just Echoes. Ike, Corrin, Robin, and Byleth are the only wholly unique ones. All the rest are different shades of the same two movesets.
Yeah the points against Pyra Mythra were not good takes
guy deadass says Pyra/Mythra has a bad song selection, when Xenoblade as a franchise is known for having absolutely phenomenal OSTs. alright.
@@crystalcove99 I typically don't like just saying opinion bad but in this case I think it fits lol
A delayed odyssey video is eventually good, a rushed odyssey video... is also really good, all your videos slap.
My rankings (don’t care for movesets just how much I enjoy to play it casually)
12. Piranha Plant (funny addition and interesting character but idk barely play him anymore)
11. Min Min (Cool mechanically but the way the implemented, it sucked)
10. Banjo (good for the fans but nothing about him elsewhere just was boring his move set is kinda bad and he is just annoying to play against)
Everyone from here on I love to play and will probably continue to play:
9. Sora (this is how you make a character people wanted fun to play)
8. Byleth (controversial I know and I’m one who doesn’t like many of the fire emblem characters but Byleth is one of my favorite characters every added and honestly gets too much hate)
7. Kazuya (the reveal was kinda lame but the character itself is fantastic and fun to play and I enjoy his moves)
6. Terry (never knew who he was before smash and honestly still don’t but very appreciated and I seriously love his GO mechanic)
5. Sephiroth (I wasn’t much of a fan of Cloud good he was in for the fans but once Sephiroth came I knew I would enjoy him and I was correct he is one of the most fun characters IMO)
4. Pyra/Mythra (I seriously don’t get the hate for these two, the fact they brought back the double character in one back from Brawl and honestly never played Xenoblade but honestly with there addition I’ll need to look into it)
3. Joker (the pass started off perfect with this character, a little bit of everything for both casual and competitive characters I also got into his game with his addition)
2. Steve (this is one of my most requested characters this guy is an ICON and honestly don’t understand why they didn’t just start the second pass off with him)
1. Hero (This character is the definition of casual, love how unique he is with all of his spells on his down B and as well as crits)
Unleash your hate in the comments below, this is just my opinion no need to hate
Yes more Hero love please
@@darkness4807 facts
Steve easy 12th
@@wow8247 have you meet Min Min or Banjo, something tells me that you get your butt kicked by Steve or you like Fortnite I can’t tell but it’s your opinion
Terry is practically the Link of fighting games. If you're not into Nintendo (fighting games), you won't know him, but if you are, you'll know him very well.
Your video quality is impressive as heck! Excited to see your channel grow. Loved the video.
Great video! The transitions were well done 😆
“Best dlc character tier list wise” oh you poor child… have you yet to hear of the terror of the block man?
Fun fact: I heard that it was planned where you can connect your Minecraft worlds to smash ultimate as a custom stage. It would have been interesting to have that and custom skins if you have minecraft switch/bedrock.
Edit: if this and the porting of minecraft maps for the switch version like using mcpedl or planet minecraft I would love to make an arena using levels from my map.
That would have sounded so fun!
It's true, Sakurai did consider it but said it ended up being too complicated and wouldn't work well.
It would've been too complicated to implement AND people would start making NSFW stages
I just watched some older videos. Wow Odysseys voice has changed a lot
My ranking: Keep in mind, i like all the dlcs.
11. Pyra/Mythra. I think a Xenoblade character is cool, but I don't think the character is very fun to play as. 6.5/10
10. Min Min. She's just fine. The character is unique, but she's just fine. 7/10
9. Banjo and Kazooie. They 101% deserved to be in the game, but the gameplay of the character is boring. Also, the music and stage they came with are underwhelming. 7.3/10
8. Terry. I love Terry, much like the whole top 8. These were really hard to choose. But out of the top 8, he's my least favorite. The music and stage is quite good. 8/10
7. Sora. I might get crucified, but let me explain. I love sora. he's not my favorite to play as. I also think his music and stage are great. 8.2/10
6. Joker. joker is an overall great pack. character is fun, songs are great, stage is good, just overall great. 8.5/10
5. Hero. Hero is super fun. I love the gimmick he has with down b. Also, the alts are PHENOMONAL. 4 characters in one is a great package. the stage is good, and the music is ok. 8.8/10.
4. Kazuya. He's just incredibly fun. I love the gimmick, and he's just so powerful. Stage and music are both great, and so are his alts. 9/10
3. Steve. Steve is just INCREDIBLE! The fact that he's in the game is just mind blowing. Also, the amount of effort that was put in was great. The character's gimmick s great, with his mining. Much like Hero, the alts are phenomonal. The package is great. The stage is great, but the music is just ok. 9.2/10.
2. Sephiroth. The character was probably the most hype and coolest of all the characters. The gameplay is incredible, stage is incredible and the music is also great. 9.4/10
1. Byleth. This is my most controversial opinion. I know people were not excited at all for Byleth, I get that. But, I just think byleth's gameplay is son unique. I love powerful characters and byleth covers that. The character is great, and so is the stage. But the thing that brings her to number one is the music. My favorite song in Smash bros, The Edge of dawn came with Byleth, and Oh. My. god. It's so good. 9.6/10
Dis is opinion look at this. What The Heck is this Pyra is the best. Lol
Thank you for not hating Byleth and actually looking at what they bring to the game. They were a very good addition if you aren't bias against Fire Emblem.
Byleth's songs are awesome! Since he/she and Hero are the only DLC characters I have (and Hero's songs are mediocre at best), Byleth made up for it
Steve was actually the first character I've wanted in Smash Bros.
11. Byleth
10. Min Min
09. Pyra/Mythra
08. Banjo & Kazooie
07. Hero
06. Sora
05. Kazuya
04. Sephiroth
03. Steve
02. Joker
01. Terry
It's Pythra not Pyra/Mythra
I hate having so many fire emblem characters because when I go against random CPUs it’s so common to get a fire emblem character
Call me bias but my favourite dlc fighter is joker. The reasons are:
I love persona 5
Mementos sometimes has characters appear from p5 like fox or skull as examples
I love the final smash
I love the attention to detail
Voice lines
Music
Man, Pyra and Mythra's placement shocked me, I love playing them, I love the rapid ability to essentially change movesets, it feels so fun, like a trickster whom you dont know what they'll go for, will they combo into photon edge? A smash? Ray of punishment? Or will they switch to Pyra to hit you with a Flame Nova, I like Pyra and Mythra
I also dont agree with the music thing, to a point, I do agree it is kinda lackluster, seriously, no Drifting Souls? But they added Battle!!/Torna, Counterattack and Bringer of Chaos got a remix and Thoes Who stand Against Our Path is here too
it's pretty clear that he's just biased against the characters and the franchise, he didn't have any real critisms against them just "i don't like them" over and over again. Ranking it below Byleth and banjo is telling
Just another non Xenoblade fan jealous of us always winning I guess 🤷
As a huge fan of Xenoblade who was absolutely ecstatic to see Pyra/Mythra be added to the roster, I'm obviously upset about them being in the bottom spot. But that's not even that big of a deal. Whatever, different people have different opinions and different preferences.
But you're seriously going to say that the Pyra/Mythra music selection is one of the worst ones of the packs??? The Xenoblade franchise as a whole is well-known for consistently having some of the best OSTs in the genre. I can understand you not liking Pyra/Mythra as fighters, but what you said about the music selection is just baffling to me.
Back when I voted for Steve in the Smash 4 ballot (which was probably the hardest decision of my entire life), I truly didn't think he actually had a chance, but I sure am glad he did. I mean, every time I see him being played I learn new tricks!
Pythra’s moves are boring? I would say most of the fe reps fit that statement but hey, this not my list so whatever floats your boat
Mementos is my favorite stage in all of Smash Bros not even close. I also really like it's stage hazard
“You forgot the most important one, Piranha Plant 🤓🤓🤓” - Literally Everybody before watching this vid 2022
My personal favorite is Joker since it introduced me to persona and I love persona
Pyra and Mythra are of course my favorite DLC with also Hero. It's thanks to them i played Xenoblade 2 and Dragon Quest 11 and after that these become my favorite games of all time
Thanks Smash ultimate !!!
42:18 I wish Otherside gets remixed in Smash 6
I think this is why there are so many fire emblem characters, you see there is always different main characters in the fire emblem series, but in Zelda, Link is the main character in every game and what Zelda characters could get into smash.
Yeah sure fair but
1. We already another fire emblem character (sure it was an Echo fighter but still)
2. Who Said every single part of a Game/series HAS to be represented by a fighter
not to be disrepectful or anything though...
Bokoblin could get in.
@@Da_Sire based
When each challenger pack came out, I tested them out by playing through the entire world of light story using only that character and I was only able to do it with only 5 of the 11 characters. Those will be my top 5, however the order is based on the rest of their pack with music being first and stage being second.
1. Byleth - couldn't stop playing as him when he came out, he's the reason why I started playing Fire Emblem Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes, Best music out of all the challenger packs.
2. Sora - Huge Disney fan, never played Kingdom Hearts, but the music is amazing. Character is super fun to play as. Stage is gorgeous.
3. Hero - Favourite stage out of all the challenger packs because of the beautiful backgrounds.
4. Pyra/Mythra - My main and the character I played as the most out of all the DLC characters.
5. Terry
6. Joker
7. Sephiroth
8. Banjo & Kazooie
9. Kazuya
10. Min Min - never won a single fight playing as Min Min
11. Steve - never won a single fight playing as Steve
My list:
12. Byleth
11. Pythra/Myra
10. Min Min
9. Banjo
8. Hero
7. Terry
6. Sora
5. Joker
4. Sephiroth
3. Kazuya
2. Steve
1. Haha funni plant
The big reason FE characters get into Smash so much is the same reason there are so many Pokemon, they're a Second Party Company that Nintendo wants to keep happy.
If you consider it on company lines: Nintendo has the most representation, and numbers 2 and 3 are Game Freak and Intelligent Systems, each getting tons of reps for their flagship series.
It's also why Rex was planned for base game in Ultimate and Pyra/Mythra made the DLC, Xenoblade is made by Monolithsoft, a budding second party studio.
Mark my words: In the next Smash game we will get a new rep for each of those series. A new Pokemon, a New Fire Emblem Lord, and a new Xenoblade protagonist.
mario odyssey man uploading be like
in the middle of the video i got free robux ad
no way, i just got a second free robux ad
I completely agree with Steve being number one. I also grew up with the Minecraft mini games on console and recognized toys on a tear immediately as Shrunk was one of my favorite stages. Also 39:38 lmao
I agree about Steve in Smash, because he was my most recommended character and I’m just glad that he got in, Pyra and Mythra were also one but it okay to see what others opinion about these characters. Joker, Hero, Sephiroth, Sora, by my opinion one the best included, Banjo, Terry, Byleth, are good choice, I have nothing against them their games are great, but Min Min, and Kazuya, just don’t really get my attention. By far I just love some of the characters they add on these dlc packs.
I agree with you with most of the list. I would just swap Hero and Joker also Pyra with Byleth Overall great job on the video bro.
How dare you! Pythra and Byleth have amazing movesets that are fun to play and they’re from hot new Switch-exclusive successful entries that stand out amongst their series. Xenoblade 2 especially is completely different from 1, and Three Houses is the new best FR game everyone’s talking about. I get that FE doesn’t deserve more reps than Zelda, but cut Chrom and maybe Corrin, maybe even Roy or Lucina, before you even think about cutting Byleth. Then there’s the music, and Xenoblade 2 and 3 Houses have, to me, the best DLC song collection. Edge of Dawn and You Will Recall Our Names are two of the hypest songs on the Switch on their own. On top of that, Claude can be enhanced into one of the most broken Primary Spirits in the game since it practically grants your fighter two buffs.
43:51 also Halland/Dalarna almost single-handedly made the hypest reveal trailer in the history of media
Piranha Plant: Sadly cries in the corner.
I’m actually hoping piranha plant comes back in the next smash game. Plant is super fun for me, and is my main. I get that he’s goofy, but he’s also just fun. Besides plant, we need dry bones for smash.
This is probaly your best video yet.
Real great job
No game will ever be better than melee but respectable video and thank you for your work.
if i got to pick challenger pack 3 waluigi, dry bones, dry bowser, and tom nook would be my top picks
As an Dragon Quest fan who justed started the franchise with DQ8 to DQ11, I'm very happy the Hero is at an top 3 and I agree with everything you said.
Honestly, I have pretty much polar opposite views of every character here haha. Goes to show how different everyone see’s these characters.
:0 are you a fellow Byleth/Pyra and Mythra fan?? It makes me sad to see them so low, but I also respect their opinions. :)
What's your least to most?
Byleth is my least favorite while Sephiroth and Terry are my favorite.
it’s a simp city out here huh, a population of 100% simps.
Same
My ranking:
1: Pyra/Mythra (Because I'm lonely and enjoy their switching mechanic)
2: Byleth (Because I love the power of some of the moves)
3: Hero (I think the command section is really cool)
4: Min min (The arms are super interesting)
5: Sephiroth (He's just really cool)
6: Steve (I play Minecraft...)
7: Kazuya (I love the feel of his 10 hit combo)
8: Sora (He's just kinda okay)
9: Joker (He's a cool guy but I never get Arsene to come out)
10: Terry (He doesn't really have anything interesting. Also I'm bad and can't input any of his GO moves)
11: Banjo & Kazooie (Move set is boring)
This is based almost solely on gameplay because the character itself and the music and stuff like that isn't that important to me. I just rank them based on how fun they are to play as.
I strongly disagree with pretty much everything but you know what that’s ok. Good video
This list is agreeable for me. Sry I am late, but since my favorite games r Pokémon and Minecraft this is a dream come true for me. I feel that the bottom 2/3 are interchangeable, and the top spots are justifiable, especially Steve. My only regret is that u put sora low down: he may have been the closest to breaking twitter other than Steve. Otherwise, this list is excellent and I hope to see more smash content from u in the future.
I like Byleth very much more than Piranha, Min Min and Pyra/Mythra, but, yeah, as a Fire Emblem Fan myself.... Not deserved that spot. I truly like Fire Emblem, and Byleth in Smash but, that spot was just comercial trash.
Give FE a chance tho, is a cool series.
I've never spent so much time listening to someone who says, "I grew up with Minecraft" . Well done 👍
My personal list is:
12: Byleth (worst character inclusion of all time to me)
11: Pyra & Mythra
10: Sephiroth
9: Terry
8: Kazuya
7: Hero
6: Joker
5: Min Min
4: Sora
3: Banjo-Kazooie
2: Piranha Plant
1: Steve
I really appreciate the call-out to Psycho Soldier!
as someone who mains pyra/mythra, I do not agree with this statement.
Great video! Glad someone brought up Spiral Mountain being a mediocre stage to play on
He was the first of the challenger pack, but Joker is still probably my favorite!
Judging by your profile picture and username, I’m surprised Pyra/Mythra aren’t your favorite
@@IcyDiamond Pythra is probably my third favorite behind of course Joker and Sephiroth.
@@TooMuchGamba Ah I see
I really like Pyra and Mythra but talking generaly i am kind of sad that everyone say is one of the worst, it feels bad liking something that everyone says its bad :(
Anyway, nice videos as always Odyssey! I really apreciate this awesome video, and really hope ylu keep doing more content.
I haven't played Xenoblade Chronicles 2, but I main Pyra and Mythra and am really disappointed about his review about the music. I mean, come on! They are absolute bangers (my personal favorite being "Mor Ardain -Roaming the Wastes-")!
@@Austar7 I just KNOW Xenoblade 2 because of Smash and holly gee the ost of it is INCREDIBLE in Smash. I 100% agree if you.
@@PauloM6414 Nah the guy is just biased. How is he gonna talk bad about Xenoblade 2 music but then put Steve at the top when Steve brought the least amount of songs out of all the challenger packs.
@@percy3422 he said that quality is more Important. Xenoblade has pretty good tracks, but goddamn the quality of Minecraft music is so good.
@@percy3422 he’s minecraft fanboy that’s how
I'm quite happy that pyra and mythra got into smash. They are the only sword characters I like to play, and it also got me to play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well.
I 100% agree with when he said he would change the Minecraft stage name to “New World,” I had the exact same thoughts when Steve came out
I rlly wish we got the house leaders Dimitri Edelgard and Claude rather than byleth, they would’ve brought something new to the table considering none of them are sword fighters
Gosh these really are hard to separate, huh. For Joker they pulled out ALL the stops, and yet it ended up with so much competition pretty much straight away. It's crippling how low Banjo has to go when he might be one of the biggest additions of the bunch, but argh I wish he was just more fun. Hero the complete opposite, why on EARTH is that guy so entertaining, man
Before watching I'm 100% he's gonna whine a about Pyra and Mythra
Edit: Yeah I was right. Still good vid tho, your editing is better and better
The guy is just biased.
@@percy3422 no shit. People are allowed to have their opinion.
Here’s an idea:
> Drop Byleth
> Add Crash Bandicoot
😘👌
Or drop Terry Bogart
He was a wasted slot too…
@@UndertakerU2berbruh...
Watch as Crash gets about the same amount of playtime online as Banjo, while Pythra gets leagues more.