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- Little comparison video (if you can call it that) between my M140i and my mates Focus RS 👌
Very capable car. Valved Scorpion cat-back sounds crazy - shame the microphone doesn't do it justice. Pity the build quality let's it down. I'd consider buying one if the interior was better.
What do you think about 'em?
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M140i all day for the money IMO. Add a LSD and stage 1 and it’s the best car for under £30k by some margin.
Or just buy an m2 now they’re dipping under 30k.
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I've got a m135i and my mum drives the RS, always nice being shown up by your mum 🤣
Sold my RS end of last year, miss it everyday, these videos don’t help but I can’t stop 😭😭😭
These videos are really well put together. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
I love my RS, literally the perfect daily.
Personally, I'd go for the RS. Not bothered by snobby comments about it being 'chavvy' or having an inferior interior! You get a fast Ford for the driving experience so on that score I'd go for the RS all day. If I wanted a more refined drive and more creature comforts, I'd go BMW or Audi or VW. But I don't want that, I want the driving experience.
Great video. Very well put together and unbiased.
Saw this from the Focus group on Facebook nice video bro 👊🏽
Fellow RS MK3 owner here since 2017. Love the fairness of the review. If you like the BMW go for that. If you want a good family hatchback which can stress cars three times it’s price on back roads, go for the RS.
140i leaves the focus rs for dead on quarter mile
@@prometheustv2084 What about when it's wet? 🤷♂️
@@bigsluggy we end up dead 🤣
Another great video mate!! 🔥🔥
Thé///M140i 6 in line and a perfect driving position a must have
Great review, having had an RS3, M140 and a RS Focus mk3 the two cars here are just different- I think they are equally as entertaining, the focus grabs more attention and handles fantastic but the M140 is quicker (auto) handles well and can be also entertaining especially in the wet😁 . It’s great when we have so much choice and in my opinion l would choose both of these over an Audi RS3 - they are fast - full stop.
Great video Luke...as you can guess I'm biased with you on the M140i as I own one aswell but the focus RS will always have a place in my heart as I was a ford rs boy a long time ago.
Really nice video man…love my RS, but quite impressed with the quality of your whole presentation here.
Ty dude
Great vid that, nothing else to say other than that was a great vid! Would love to see more RS content 👍
Well you're in luck 😉🤣
Nicely put video enjoyed that.
Your videos are genius so well put together love um
Both great cars in their own right, haven't driven a current gen RS yet but can't imagine I'd hate it 👍🏼 cracking video
Ty Josh 👏
My last two cars, 19k miles in my RS and 25k miles in my manual M140i. I reached a conclusion similar to yours; to drive just for an hour or two, Focus RS. To own, M140i. PS, tell your mate to lose the wind deflectors, they are tragic 😘
Coming from a Fiesta background, mk6 first car, then a mk7 ecoboost, then a mk8 ST which I modded the shit out of, the obvious choice was the Focus RS next, but I went with an M240i and couldn't be any happier. That said the RS is a riot to drive when it wants to be, but just doesn't have the character that the 140/240 gives you with that B58/ZF combo. If it's strictly hatchbacks then 140 all day is the best bang for buck, but having driven both the 140 and 240 I've gotta say the 2 series chassis is far better and the rear wheels seem to not direct you off the road as much! That said again, whichever one you choose you're gonna be quicker than 90% of these average joe everyday cars ;). Top video mate proper well made 👌.
Really enjoyed that comparison. Currently trying to decide which of these to buy, interesting decision with the used car market being what it currently is.
very fair comparison, well done. I agree with everything. I have a feeling that m140i is almost invisible next to the RS. personally would have picked 1M :D but out of this two -RS for me:)
Nice video man
This guy lives near me, see it flying down the roads popping and banging. Nice vid :)
haha sorry!
@@howlett2012 no worries. Think you know my mate Bob lives a few doors down.
@@amacke4736 its done 1500 since december!
Great vid mate, the mk3 RS was my dream car and I had one for 7 weeks before it was stolen, I then bought a m140i new lol and I have to agree the looks of the RS are hard to beat but the performance of the beemer still blows me away!
Ahhh that's a nightmare! Glad you like what you have now anyway 😁
The RS was actually built by German engineers in Germany, so technically.. It's a German Ford.
If your friend is smart, he'll keep and really look after his RS.. As Ford officially announced that due to incoming manufacturing emissions rules/policys the famous line/brand of RS models has now finally come to an end, and they have zero plans to try and make any other RS cars in the future (That aren't petrol engined at least..), being the last and best RS Ford has made, his Mk3 will very likely be worth a small fortune on the collector/rare car market in a few years time.
They are already going up in price even with the used car market in a state of covid chaos, when it starts to get on its feet again, I strongly suspect that dealers will quickly start to push the RS into the collectors market and use exclusivity to push the prices up with it.
If anyone wants to own a RS, now is the time to do it(!)... In five or so years time, most clean exampled RSs will be bought up and locked away in collectors garages as investments, it's rare to see a RS on the roads now... They'll be like unicorns in the future.
I am an RS owner and have done a mad amount to mine so it is mental, but I do love the M140i - would love to drive one to get an appreciation of the differences.
140i is a lot faster the torque is mental specially on a straight or a rolling start
Reason I picked the mk3 RS was because it’s a family car, so I still get to have fun.
Good vid bro
I'd be happy with either, but if I could choose I'd definitely take the RS
Andrew, doesn't matter what you drive as long as it scares the shit out you... MASH THAT THROTTLE! 😱
I had a m140 and didn't like driving position, as manual and pedals were to offset , didn't have a lsd on rear either ..now got a st180 running 330bhp and it's brilliant
Love the RS
Currently looking at a BMW M135i. I was lucky enough to borrow a 2017 Focus RS. The first week I hated it as was set on race mode. Felt every stone etc on road causing travel sickness even for me driving. Once changed to real world settings it was an amazing to drive. Sometimes you dont realise how quick you have gone into a corner. Luckily the RS has much more confidence in itself than the driver. Launch mode is waste of time. Standard ones could do with a remap as my cupra 280 kills ur off the mark but once the rs hits the corners I've never driven a better handling car. I thought my S3 Quattro was good in corners until I drove the Ford.
Those moor roads are fantastic and they are literally 10miles from me I often take my m235i up there 🙂
Focus RS Mk3 is fantastic. The critics won’t have driven one and yes, I do own one.
How's the car overall, are the rumors about the head gasket issue that problematic? Planning to buy one
@@KurtzMedia had mine 5 years in november. Faultless motoring in my experience.
M140 for me, great video
I reckon the M140i will end up being a classic in years to come. Great video
I don’t think so 😂
Not so much a classic, but the value will hold or increase. With everything now being 4pot awd boring euroboxes, a 6cyl RWD hatch will be a rare thing in 10/15 years.
Plus all the crap drivers who can't handle the RWD will have written plenty off so they become rarer ;)
@@michaelhesford5191 Why is that rs boy?
Your rocking a 4wd 4 cylinder hot hatch, same as everything else out there.
Why would a rwd 6 pot not become a classic?
@@carmad1287 because it's an rs and the last one to be made! That's why Mr car mad ,😆
@@michaelhesford5191 So because a manufacturer stops making a model suddenly it can become a classic 😂😂 what about a ford mondeo? 😂😂
I have a manual RWD M135i and a mk2 Focus ST. Obviously the 135 is faster, but the thing is that it just doesn’t handle like a sports car; the Focus feels so much tauter and more planted - it’s way better to drive on twisty roads, even with FWD. The thing with the 1-series is that the suspension setup is basically the same across all models, they just put a bigger engine in the 135 & 140.
Enjoyed. Great moor road that...
I have owned a Nitrous blue RS for 3 years and covered over 40,000miles in it. I love it and its starting to go back up in value already like most RS cars do. Now is the time to buy one for sure. Btw other than fuel its not that expensive to own and nothing has gone wrong with it. Did have the head gasket done though
When did you get the head gasket done? Any advice on buying one? Im planning on getting one soon !
@@KurtzMedia head gasket was done 2 years ago. Most cars will have been done as it was a recall. If you can afford one go for later editions model as these have all extras fitted and a quaife differential.Also mountune 375 bhp upgrade which was approved by ford is worth having and does make a difference. I have the standard car but my brother owns a red edition with the mountune upgrade so I can tell the difference
@@paulfowler6665 is it better to buy one that has gasket fixed or fix it myself if I run into it? I'm paranoid as a have a sti which had the gasket changed and it made me drive the car like a granny ever since lol
@@KurtzMedia Its unlikely you'll find one not done. I've done over 30,000miles since mine was done no issues.
@@paulfowler6665 sweet man thanks, I'm feeling more optimistic now hopefully I come across a clean blue one with low ks haha
Only had my m140i a month or so now and no regrets. Also agree, best bang for your buck hot hatch for the money.
And the m135i/235i
Ive had mine for a month too. Its helped quite a bit with my depression
@@rolandgibbs9036 Had mine 18 months, mapped it to 411bhp/576nm and it's just brilliant.
Looking at a sports cat for 460+bhp next, it's just so tunable, I love the damn thing.
RS for me
Focus rs don’t like the 1 series at all but my choice would the rs3 great vid cheers 👍
I've had an RS Mk2 and a BMW M2. You get way more respect and love in the BM. The Ford, those who know, know, enthusiasts etc. but the average person thinks it's a bit chav.
That blue is absolutely stunning, but for me the Focus is just a bit “chavvy” no hate, just the vibe I get.
I like the external looks of the Focus but the interior just feels worse than the German bunch. Also, I always thought the Mk2 RS looked more outstanding compared to the competition of the time.
I'd like to see how many chavs can afford to run one......My petrol bills for the Focus RS could put some mortgages to shame.....
@@grahamstephens9931 I think chav was probably the wrong word. I meant it’s a bit “boy-racery”
It’s the in your face styling that people like, and the opposite is why I like the Golf GTI/M140.
I think the blue and green colours look so good, but could never see myself driving one.
@@troobs1990 I usually get a love it or hate it response to my Nitrous Blue RS. When I ask the haters what colours they like, they usually say something inspired like silver, grey or black and then I know I'm talking to a dead person. My favourite colour on a car are those bright green Lambos.
@@GrummanBearcat agree on the Lambo, orange McLaren too, hey if I had a Nissan Micra I’d get it in grey but if you have a shouty car you’ve got to double down with a shouty colour!
Great vid, is it wrong to say that despite these beasts,I am in love with my Mk 8 Fiesta ST ! A baby RS if you will !! 👊
Being in the US, I would have loved a chance to buy the MK8 FiST. I had a MK7 for three years and now have a black MK3 RS, and as much as I LOVE the car, I still think about the MK7 FiST I sold to get it. Only sold it because I don’t have space for two cars.
Yes I’m looking at focus rs mk3 and with loads of cash went threw the car now from stock it’s 345hp with stock engine but this one I’m looking at is running about 530hp and fully forged engine upgrade never been in a focus always had fiesta st so it will be interesting to what they like to compare the focus rs
nice videos, following you from spain.
Hola mi amigo ✊
Two brilliant motors. Looking to upgrade from a Focus ST. I have enjoyed the ST so the RS with its extra power and traction will be even nicer. However, if I'm spending £27k I want better build quality and a nicer interior. Something the BMW can offer, along with being faster in a straight line, better all round daily, cheaper on fuel and quite a bit cheaper to purchase.
140 as the sum of it's modest parts are greater... Just a great all rounder.
I got an M140i in October, love it! Half tempted to get a stage 1 map on it, however I paid for extended warranty...guess it'll have to wait for now...
I have a 120i with a map on it... It's worth doing... It's shocking just how undertuned my car was from the factory! I just bought the BM3 licence and tuned it myself
@@jackmccourt6180 don’t think I’d trust myself to do it haha! Litchfield seems to be the place to go £600 takes it to 435bhp and 590nm 👀
@@GW_FIT it's actually super easy and means you can swap maps. So if you want to switch back to regular fuel etc...
Its just a case of plugging it in and pressing the go button though. Nothing all that hard about it.
The focus RS MK2 is the car to go for I’ve owned all 3
Both really capable cars. The colour of a car makes a huge difference IMHO, the 140i in that grey looks plain, the RS in that blue looks sick.
Swap the colours about and things change.
Good video BTW.
I agree.
The M140i in that burnt Orange, or even Estoril Blue, looks ace.
There is more to the driving experience than big numbers. The RS is the drivers car "a lot more engaging than the 140..." - it's why the Audi RS3 could have a million horsepower and still be inert and dull as shit and a Lotus Elise is magic with a little 1.8. Considerations; handling, handling, handling, performance, all else is for a shopping car.
Commenting just for the sake of supporting the channel :) Its the m140i for me
MVP x
Ford Focus RS is THE best hot hatch ever created hands down
The way u said it fucking drinks fuel made me piss 🤣🤣🤣
I used to work at Ford when the RS was available and have just bought an M140i. Question answered :D
I have an RS among other cars and could buy an M140i for much less but it looks too plain and I like AWD as well as the far sharper handling. Also the seats in the M140i are like something from a 1.4.
Indeed question answered.
@@tracktimevideos5164 There he is, knew id see you on this videos comments 😂
Being a dealer I’ve driven both cars for months and have decided to keep the RS however both are very good cars in their own way RS is more fun to drive if you really like your cars bmw is built slightly better and RS handles miles better. People who don’t know about cars will go for the BM as it’s a “cool brand”. I can put any money if the RS had a BMW badge it’ll be king of hot hatches in everyone’s eyes
Took a month to consider between the two. At the end, I brought RS over M140.
How are you finding it?
Come to Essex mate. Mk3 Focus R.S everywhere 😂
BMW M140i vs Mini JCW
for the next video please
If my last (ordinary) Focus was anything to go by the RS will be rusting away well before it is 10 years old, and a BMW 6 cylinder engine is always going to sound better than a 4 cylinder, so I would take the m140i
Just subscribed
M140i for me
Can't disagree with your conclusion (I own an M140i though!).
Bought a Focus RS. They don't sell the M140i here. Love the car, it handles like a baby GTR.
RS for me 👍
big up ts10 crew
Ts20 4 life, dat bit not ghetto
M140i, well I’m biased because that’s what I own! 😂
My list was similar to yours (minus the Ford which does absolutely nothing for me) and none of them held a candle to the M140o which won because of the B58. The S3 was just to dull inside and out and the Golf R didn’t tickle my funny bits (I preferred the GTI which I thought was a much better looking car).
My list starts with the GT2RS...but it simply isn't in the card's...maybe a toilet made of solid gold? RS OWNER SAYS!
Bmw for the interior and the ford for the character. Both great cars. I’m biased bc I own a 2018 rr rs.
Ford fanboy but would have to be the M140i. It would have to be the mk2 RS for me, need something that’s exciting to drive
I own an RS and the fuel consumption isn't that bad. I would even say its pretty good!
Nice mate 👌 don't like mrk3 mrk2 more meaner plus it has five cylinders 🙂
M140i for me.
I had this problem last few weeks I couldn't decide what car I wanted, I ended up with the f80 m3 in Austin yellow 🙃
Link to Insta (if you have it) 🤤
@@lookship I don't have insta I'm on Facebook tho
Focus RS, with LSD. I live with and by some very nice curves. The RS leaves everyone else behind when we go on drives (when shod with the best summer tires, michelin, continental, etc.) It is not a 1/4 mile vehicle, it is not a straight line racer. That is ok, since I dont have many straights here to open it up. Only thing I hate about it is the seats and the stock springs. Get coilovers. The best part about it is I can still put heat on cars worth twice as much. The look I get from luxury performance drivers as I pass them on the curves is priceless.
RS!!
I picked the m140i ...because I did not want a engine block ....that could only be used as top gear style coffee table when it blows up ...!
Is it _that_ weak?
Its prob when people map them ...but they have had quite a few issues with people having to have replacment engines ...there is a utube video bd perfomance where it shows a engine that grenaded at very low speed ..
Very
@@jamstersmith4625 yep not a great engine compared to the b58
Mines been running 375bhp for 3 of the 4 years I have had it including track days and Nürburgring trips. Not sure how people damage them, I just service it regularly and its faultless.
I’ll be honest, I was not expecting to enjoy that review. After 10 seconds or so I’d written it off in my head thinking “Here we go another young northern kid with what are probably going be ill informed facts and some questionable talking points” but I couldn’t have been more wrong. Excellent video. I was dumb for being so quick to judge. Subscribed 👍🏼
Haha cheers buddy 🤣
5:16 🤣🤣🤣
Great video ! I own a 420 bhp 17 plate Rs, I was looking at changing to an m140i ..would need an LSD & mapping though...still undecided
Don't do it.
Not sure if you've seen the other video I made with the white RS. 420BHP just about brought it in line with the 140 in regards ro raw straight line speed.
Plenty of other handling mods which can be done before the LSD to improve the handling, but if you push it hard enough 1WD does let you down and it ultimately needs one if you're a track enthusiast.
Just had gbox map and I'm having the engine mapped on wednesday so more videos to come 😄
@@lookship the 140i definitely needs an lsd, but the platform is there in spades
Just found your channel, really enjoying the content 👍
Never thought I'd buy a BM, but got my hands on a dealer M140 for a steal ! My gen 1 Cayman which I had for 8yrs and a gen 1 S3 225 money pit both sold via a trader nearly covered the cost of the 140 . Cayman was collecting dust not being able to drive it so wanted something which gave me practically and some fun ! There's nothing else out there for the money and quality but did have to buy the exhaust actuator bow spring for £6 ! Before the Cayman I had Mazda 3 MPS which the RS had stolen the engine from !Loads of front wheel spin made worse by having a Hypertech flash installed which monstered most cars with its torque . Not as much as the M140 though . I hope my M140 will be a keeper , don't want to mess with it too much . Going on a bit, but what are your guys thoughts on a rear strut brace to keep the back end in check ? Great vids 👍 61 yr old male .
I need to change the RFT's btw !
RS for me. It looks the part and drives it as well. Mind you I am biased seeing I own a full Spec Red Edition with the added Mountune MP375 upgrade 😎
Stock s3 or stock golf r would still beat ur mountune rs from dig by about 4 car lengths due to dsg gearboxes and m140i your rs would be a tiny spec in the rear mirror of the 140i
M140i %100
To drive, the M140i feels much more mature and usable than an RS. On B roads the RS would probably have it, but the M140i feels so much more special, not to mention that monster of an engine under the bonnet
Where did you film this?
BMW M140i is the best ofc ! and M140i xDrive even better
BMW does nothing for me Zzzz ..RS all day they’re only going up in value 👌🏻
Well not everyone has good taste🥴
Both will let you down 1 way or another
Well the difference in speed is pretty high. Because the RS's results on a dyno are around 320hp. While a M140i actually pushes 360hp on the dyno. Than substract the drivetrain loss, the focus rs has around 260whp left. The M140i actually has around 305whp. Than add the zf8 and 50kg weight difference and the focus rs stands no chance in a straight line
If anyone is deciding now I strongly suggest you go for the RS, is the last RS, prices going up, it's something special. with bmw you will be just another bland bmw on the road, so many now on the roads is crazy, and u will lose 80% of the money.
Had an RS and went through all the initial ownership pain. But I may get another for the 'smart long game'. Most out there cost more now than I paid for a 3000 mile car nearly 3 years ago, go figure !!!!
M140i is a great package but ruined by the fact there's just too many out there and too many Msport diesels that look 99% the same.
Would you have had an M2 if finances allowed? Also between a A45 17 plate or M2 17 plate, which way would you go? Cheers
Prior to doing any research, an M2 is initially what I wanted. Knowing what I know now I'd only step up to an M2 if it were a comp.
The OG M2 is still a really nice car and I'm going to be doing a vid about them compared to the 140is soon hopefully explaining why that'd be my choice.
Saying that though if it were between those 2 I'd still have the M car over an A45.
@@lookship look forward to that video, I would like the comp but it’s probably just out my price range, I’m doing some digging now to see what I could get the monthly payments to, I still like the A45, it feels special and sounds great but a bit more young lad compared to the M2 and I’m 37!!!
An M2 comp is the only thing that would tempt me from my RS but they are £15k more.
Are you based around Redcar? This video just popped up and I have a blue m140i down the road from you
I might be 😏😉
Haha. I'll have to keep an eye out for you. I have a stage 2 blue one
@@jonnypeacock8844 nice mate. Doing the stage 1 map next week and I'll join the stage 2 club when I'm bored of that 😁
I bought a 2017 M140i 18 months ago, with 14000 miles on the clock, for exactly 20 grand.
It's probably worth 18 grand now, but I had a £450 map done and it's 411bhp/576nm and am looking at a 200 cell sports cat (about £900 fitted), which should take it to 460-470bhp and well over 600nm.
So, for 20 grand I think it's much better value than an RS with ford scene tax. I could still spend another 5 grand on suspension and LSD to get it to handle much better, and it would still not cost as much as the RS.
I would have something which handles very well, is MUCH faster, and is much better quality inside.
Plus it’s the last 3 litre straight six in a hot hatch from bmw the b58 is a legendary engine would piss on a focus rs golf r Audi s3 previous gen rs3 and a45 amg
RS all day in 40yrs time people will be talking about them just like they do the cosworth today classic simple. Hold there value.
I’d like a rs but prices are just too high compared to the m140
For a good reason….the RS badge!
M140i
Being a former MK3 owner I have to agree! Build quality is awful and extremely unreliable. The BMW feels more luxurious and definitely better bang for your money. But you can't beat the way the MK3 drives in the twisty roads. If you can get over how firm, loud and the plasticy build quality the RS is, it's amazing! It's a shame my engine blew up once on the the previous owner and once on the new owner 😅 if it was a car I intended on keeping long term I would have gone for the 140i 💪
What was unreliable about yours? Mine has been fault free for 4 years including track days.
I'd have to pick the Beamer (especially in manual form) A RWD hatch back is a massive achievement, but managing to squeeze a 3.0 inline 6 in it is nothing short of unbelievable. The world will never see anything like it again. Don't get me wrong, the RS is a brilliant car (it was my dream daily until I discovered the BMW M2-not Comp-) but id have a white one personally as it contrasts with all the black plastics brilliantly.