Newsflash, most countries outside of America teach their children multiple languages including English. Him knowing English isn't some Christmas miracle, it's the norm, if anything he probably knows like 5 languages.
I love my 2019, 6.2. I was pretty disappointed with the Rancho shocks. The front end would wallow and the truck bed would chatter on bad surfaces. I installed Bilstein 6112 in the rear and 5100 in the front. The truck rides so good on and off road now. The Goodyear Dura Trac tires were a more noisy that I liked so I swapped them for BF Goodrich All Terrains. Road noise is almost non existent now. The best MPG I got was California to Jasper Canada was 21.2 MPG. Very happy with this truck.
Good Move.......exchanging the "Fake Rancho Shocks" for the Bilstein Shocks. However, if you get that AT4 in the mud you will want the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac tires. If your AT4 stays on paved roads and never gets in the mud......why have it?
@@nabatron21 Because a person CAN? Yeah...OK...whatever. They WANT it and CAN afford it. However, if any individual EVER NEEDS to USE the AT4 off-road, it will never ever perform like a Ford Super Duty Tremor off-road. The AT4 with IFS axle and low hanging frame rails will get stuck on uneven terrain off-road way before a Ford or a Dodge truck.
I have an AT4 and I believe it is the best truck that GM offers. It has tall the tech features, it has a decent interior that looks really nice, and it has a look that looks good to people who like aggressive and traditional looks.
10000 miles I would not expect any problems. 60,000 miles let me know! Not saying anything negative I am hopeful some newer trucks can start being more reliable with all the tech these newer trucks have
@@benmcintosh1234 it will take me about six years to get there but I will. And I have owned several trucks with issues in the first year. I also hope it goes for the long term, I want to get 100,000 out of it with nothing major
What camper are you towing? I'm interested in an AT4 and especially the 3.0 Duramax but I want to tow a camper sometimes. Any comments on your experience while towing appreciated.
I’ve had mine since mid Dec, 2020 - same cayenne red, diesel, features, etc. Live in central Idaho mountains so we still have snow, cold temperatures and back roads are snow covered for a couple of months but expect the truck will be great on them. Getting 24 mpg including some 85 mph freeway travel and time idling in parking lots and the driveway. Like the solid comfort of the suspension. Looks like what a truck should look like. Have to admit I’m a GM guy for 50 years now but I continue to be very pleased with everything so far.
Beautiful Truck, nicely done Andre. I have to chuckle at all these comments about the surface rust. He's in Michigan folks. Surface rust happens quickly on vehicles. I don't care if its Ford, Dodge or GM. If it's rusting in Southern Texas..Ok you might have a problem, but up here in the north with snow, gravel, salt and sand it's just an unfortunate part of life that your truck will quickly get surface rust underneath. How bad it get will depend on how well you wash and maintain your truck and how bad the roads are you are driving.
I own the 3.0 diesel in my Denali....absolutely amazing performance and fuel economy...the AT4 is one of the best looking trucks currently offered IMO.....thanks for the review
Let be real, majority of AT4 owners are not vying that truck for its offroad capabilities. They are buying it fir the looks. The body color bumpers, the rims fit it very well. Just really a overall great looking truck.
You are correct. Thats why I bought mine. The same can be said for Raptors, Jeeps, Broncos etc. hardly anyone takes an off road vehicle of any kind and rips the trails with it. I will take it to Colorado and have a little fun with it but 99% of the time, it will be on pavement.
I have the 2021 AT4 6.2L. Same color, fully loaded. Wife and I both love this truck. Very comfortable ride. All the bells and whistles (was not looking for fully loaded but it was the only one in that color available) Got it with the GM employee pricing at the end of December, only way to buy it saving nearly $10K. Will not be using it for off road very often, it is my daily use truck. I have seen the interiors of other brand trucks and am not really missing much with this interior. It may be a step behind others but I am very happy with what I have. They were VERY hard to find here in the Atlanta area and we stumbled across this one the morning after it was delivered to the dealership. We were the first customer to ask about it at opening and while we were inside after test drive negotiating they had multiple requests about it (as told to us by another customer). They had two black and one white 2021 AT4's available as well and one black one sold while we were there. It is a luxury / off road truck that works for a lot of folks. We are very happy with ours. Zero rust so far. No issues.
I wish you all the best. Our 6.2 had a major tear down and my friends is completely blown. Crate motor is way to pricy. Cannot find a used. He is trying to sell it with no motor. My list. 6:2 tear down Transmission never ever came close. After 5 or 6 re program Passenger seat caught on fire. Seat warmer stayed on. Great for a unique interior smell. All 4 electromagnetic shock gone. $4500 here in Canada. Paint chips from day 1 on lower front bumper and around. Dealer said dirt roads. Wife’s truck. Never went on dirt road. Rear window replace. Fire recall 6 other recalls for things like brakes and reprogram. My friend has 6.2 just out of warranty. Blown. Crate $10000. No used one anywhere We have sold and moved on. So watch it this is not a quality built truck. Not even close
I'm amazed at how manufacturers keep putting things on vehicle( tech package/cameras out the wazoo) and folks just become fascinated that it's a must have. This truck has at least $10k worth of options that I have no use for because they drive up the price and are things I never would use or need. Just give me a truck that functions, straight up aspirated engine, no turbo and keep the price lower than the cost of a house.
Very Nice Truck. I like the boxy shape and seems a good compromise between an off-road truck and daily driver. However, that rust on the rear axle and under body for a new truck is a bit of a concern.
@@americanadreaming I did the same “6.2” coming from the 5.3 pretty excited. I called GM and if no further delays it’s production week is this coming 26th. Fingers crossed
@@americanadreaming You sound an awful like myself. I’m actually having the truck go right from factory off to Tuscany. Having them do the ZRX package. Check it out, if you haven’t seen one. I hear ya on the ranchos, glad there coming off, I have them on my Silverado.
I have a 2020 5.3 liter. Love the look, feel and stance of this truck. Really smooth with decent highway mpg but I've had some issues with the brakes going out on me twice and the battery being faulty. I've had it a year now with 20k miles on it I really hope all the bugs are fixed if not ill be going back to a tundra trd pro.
Same here. New Truck with the cheap AC Delco battery was awful and caused electrical problem just after 612 miles. I have had no brake problems though, 17K miles so far. Good luck!!
I own a 21 1500 denali duramax and have had 4 major issues prior to it's first oil change. Can't argue love the mpg when it works but have had as much drive time with other GM rentals as well.
@@Prestiged_peck First was a diesel particulate sensor around 3000 miles followed by def system heating stage which of course caused the truck to go to limp mode speed restriction. Just prior to it's first oil change I had numerous sensors alarming with the truck where the soeedometer, tachometer, suspension, esc, and parking brake began alarming and throwing codes. This was supposedly caused by the braking module. Go to pick it up from the dealer, start the engine go to pull out of the parking space and the truck shudders and says reduced engine power with check engine light. Currently waiting to get full information on what this set of issues is, but definitely not a good look for reliability front. Again mpg is amazing I average 32 mpg with the best score being 36.9 mainly using adaptive cruise control. Just can't stand making a payment on a vehicle that I can't drive. First oil change was done while it was in for this last long stretch.
The last thing was supposed to be too much resistance through the ground causing the electrical system to drop . 4 volts. This time was able to drive the truck not only off the lot but even to my house. Truck seems to be running fine again and I still have my 32 mpg average on my trip. Even researched that the infotainment error has finally been patched so hopefully will be problem free from there on out.
The rear axle ‘rust’ is not an issue, it’s made of nodular iron, which depending on the exact metallurgical formulation is no concern at all. Your body will fail before the rust could ever make the axle fail!
Have 2021 gmc 1500 at4, love the ride, stance and overall quality...no rust here..ps use my 4x4 almost everyday for work and has handled everything I asked so far..also had a 2019 Silverado TB and put 71000 on it with no issues
I just got a used 2020 with 6.2. I was back and forth between silverado RST or trailboss since the new models came out . Then i started seeing these on the road and looked into them and it was like a switch flipped. Every time you go to look at a Silverado you have to say ok, what is it missing that you want. Could be everything you want and then no factory bed liner. You like certain wheels but most of them don’t have them. You want rear sliding window? Most of them don’t have one. Want a flex tailgate? Nope. I came across a used AT4 and if there’s an option it doesn’t have I can’t imagine what it is. I want it all and it’s almost too much even for me. Cooled seats and HUD. Heated seats in back. Power folding mirrors . Power rear slider. Bed liner. Multipro flex tailgate. Camera mirror. 360 view backup cam. Sunroof. Accident avoidance. it even looks better than the multitude of silverados you see everywhere. Its in the same price range used. Mine has 20” tires. The 2” lift makes it pretty tall to get in and out of. The side steps are necessary. It doesn’t help fuel economy. The driver info center is excellent. I didn’t get the interior refresh but I’m fine. There’s no waiting for retrofits due to chip shortage. Granted, it came with some miles but a clean car fax report with no major issues in the history. This is why they’re popular. It’s like a Denali inside and a super sharp off-road truck on the outside.
First of all I love you guys. I watch your channel because it does help me better understand the trucks and their capabilities before I buy. Now with all that said it's time for your show to start setting up these trucks with the same off road tires with like speaks so we can see who is best on road, mud, sand, rocks, gas mileage, tow and snow. I believe the only changes you would need to make are tires, close gearing and ride height. If you put ten to fifteen videos together showing these trucks in sand, mud, road, towing, rocks, milage and snow views like myself will be glued to your videos and most likely they will become most viewed... Thanks for reading and good luck guys... The Banks Family
@@jjc20102148 i owned a at4 with the duramax it was never used for towing very bad engine i switched to a 21 ram 1500 with turbo diesel way more reliable abd smoother truck over all dont reccomend man
@@BMT_Blinds this diesel has been out for 3 years and has been reviewed and tested endless times and this is literally the first negative thing I've seen said about it. Don't listen to bmt blinds - you know he's full of shit when he says the RAM diesel is way more reliable 🤣🤣🤣
A week and a half ago I was able to buy a 2022 GMC Sierra AT4, in California from a dealership in Placerville California. With Cayenne Red Tintcoat also.
Them Rancho shocks whipping ass. Proves dont have to have all that fancy high price crap to meet the needs of 98% of the people buying them. More truck and shock than most will ever need. I like offroad but not going to slam a 70k truck in a mud pit no matter what the shocks are.
I switched out my Ranchos at 4000 miles on my 2500. 3 of the 4 were trashed! They stayed compressed after removal. Put Icon's on it. Ride was night and day.
I had it special ordered from Mexico since no dealer in the US would sell it to me (in Europe). Costed me 50% more but hey it gets me chicks so it is well worth its price.
Wait.... You mean to say a 2021 GMC has rust color on the rear diff pumpkin??? This isn’t just a Ford thing like everyone freaked out about a month ago??.... That’s pretty cruddy looking under there for a new, 2021, vehicle.... Great review by the way TFL!!
Absolutely love my 2020 Sierra Denali 6.2. I drove all the competition and found the GMC had the best overall balance of power, ride, handling, and features. Would I like a nicer dash? Sure, but that’s my only single complaint and if the press didn’t constantly harp on that it wouldn’t bother me one but. 21k and no issues. My last truck was a ecoboost ford (2018) and that thing was in the shop every other month with some ailment.
Andre,.. that ride is slushy as can be, downright squishy,.. I put Bilstein 6112 / 5160 package in mine and it's a ton better,.. and I too love the diesel. 24mpg combined is almost exactly what I get
Placed an order for my 2021 Sierra AT4 last week and cannot wait for it to come in! I got lucky and avoided the 3-5 month wait due to covid ATM. It's a beautiful truck but quite hard to get at the moment. Wish I would have been able to get the 3.0L diesel over the 5.3L V8.
In Michigan, due to excessive salt usage on the roads, vehicles rust at an alarming pace. My dad bought a 94 Sierra from down south that had never seen snow, and within 2 years the cab corners were entirely rusted out. At 4:05 when he opens the hood, you can see the residual salt all over the engine bay.
I agree, the GMC this time 'round is a great looking truck. If I were in the market today, I think I'd also like to check out the 2.7 litre in-line 4 that these folks have . Which is better on fuel, this in-line six diesel, or the 4 cylinder? Thanks for this TFL / Andre!
I bought one with a 3.0l...because the Ford Diesel was 8k more, and I don't trust RAM after the eco-diesel escapade. I honestly don't care how it drives off road, but it will be going down a lot of gravel roads and they can get pretty spongey in the spring when the frost comes out of the road.
Ford diesel is an afterthough and the ecodiesel has shown a lot of problems. Only the duramax was made for this pickup. Also, this 3.0 duramax is offered internationally by GM, so I think they put more though on it
I would consider buying a Sierra if GM gives it a better interior, which should be coming this fall, and the 3.0 diesel is definitely the engine I would choose. However, as it stands I'm leaning toward buying an F150 next year, but I'll definitely cross shop the new Sierra and the new Tundra. Nice review...Andre is the best presenter on TFL!
I'd recommend that you avoid Ford like the plague. A few friends of mine bought new F150s within the last year and are already having issues with the transmission, transfer case, steering, and even the pedals vibrating and coming loose. After the issues I had with my 2016 F150 I can never recommend them. I switched to Ram and haven't looked back. If you do get the F150, good luck with it.
I work with a guy who bought the AT4 last year. He let me drive it. I'm a GM guy and would love to have this truck, but I just can't see laying out 80 thousand dollars for something that will depreciate. The most I've ever spent on a new truck was $56,000 for a 1500 SLT Quad cab 4x4 with a 6.2 liter engine and the heavy duty towing package.
My question if anyone can answer. Does a 6 cylinder diesel start in the winter easier than a 8 cylinder?? Like I’d having a 6 cylinder not as bad to get fired up in the winter?
All 1/2 tons these days need bigger fuel tanks. I guess the easiest thing to do to cut weight is to shrink the tank but i can tell you from experience itll get old fast pumping fuel every 2-3 days
North American brands have been criticized for years for their lack of undercoating protection, specifically and especially GM. I like this truck. It's functional, equipped and affordable. Until they put a little more quality in the way of aging, I'll be buying my Toyota trucks, and many Atlantic Canadians who need reliable vehicles will be too.
I really want to know how comfortable are the seats ? Because my 2003 Chevy suburban is way more comfortable than my dad's 2015 GMC Sierra & those seats are so hard uncomfortable for me. Can't wait to see when the GM trucks get their new updated interiors.
Although I enjoy these truck reviews, the cost is just insane. Even under a 72 month auto loan you're looking at anywhere between 900-1000 dollars a month without a deposit or trade-in.
@@BIGJBIGEBIGC Why? Silverado/Sierra have the best bed/tailgate in the business. The 6.2L and 3L Duramax are my preferred powertrains currently offered in the 1/2 ton segment. GM's 10 speed tuning is spot on. The chassis is extremely good with suspension setups that are great for towing/hauling. They're refreshing the truck after 3 years. Not sure why you feel GM is neglecting their 1/2 tons. I own a F150 BTW.
I have a 2008 Sierra SLT 4x4 that I bought new. I have nearly 200,000 on it and it still looks and drives like new. There is no reason to buy a new on as this truck is still stylish and handles great with the 6L L76 aluminum block engine, although this new truck looks great. Much better styling that the Ford or Dodge.
this GMC truck looks nice. Im intrigued by the 3.0L duramax 1000$ diesel option. although overall the price 65K is alot when I compared it to the F-150 Lariat 2020 2.7L. at 50K dealer discount included. I wasnt avle to justify a 16K$ price swing. so I went with the F-150
I’m assuming this truck was purchased in 2020 to have that much rust for a new truck. So with that being said...if he’s in Detroit, then this thing was DEFINITELY driven in snow and salt. But I agree, to much RUST for a new vehicle. Might have to stray looking elsewhere at other companies.
I have a 2019 Ram. Drive on salty roads and winter in Canada. No surface rust at all on the diff or under carriage. My old 2003 GM had some but the truck was 17 years old. Sad that some of these new trucks develop that surface rust like that and we pay that can’t of money. My old truck I painted the back diff. I like a clean looking under carriage. On a new truck that would drive me nuts
The tires and suspension on the AT4 are only slightly better than standard GMC 4WD trucks. The Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac tires are nice.....capable with siping on the lugs on snow packed roads and decent lugs for off-road in the mud......but the 275 / 70R - 18 size is still too small (33.2 x 11.0 for OWL or 33.4 x 11.0 for BSW). The suspension.....the shocks are "Fake Rancho Shocks"......same junk found in years past on Ford Super Duty trucks with the FX4 package. Go off-road in a 4WD equipped with King, Fox, Falcon, Icon, Bilstein shocks.....you will never want Rancho, Skyjacker, Super Lift, etc shocks again.
That is the best looking truck on the road right now, and that’s coming from an owner of a 2018 Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 4wd. I would trade my truck in on one in a minute if o could get the right deal.
no shit. did you se how much salt was on the ground? anyone that thinks that's rust obviously doesn't live anywhere wit actual rust. i'm a mechanic in east coast Canada and a lot of the time i have to cut exhaust bolts off with a torch on 2 year old vehicles and im replacing mufflers on 3 year old vehicles
Hi. Has anyone been able to compare for quality of the Sierra Denali vs. the AT4X? I have a ‘19 Sierra Denali, but really like the AT4s…and was curious to the ride smoothness comparison? Thanks!!!! (Also is there any tire noise)
it's because the pandemic hit just a couple months after GM had finished up their boycotting. So there were not alot made in 2020. The mass assortment of options that are availble with the different versions of the 1500 and not to mention the fact that the Duramax 3.0L is killing it on fuel economy and 12 speed trans combo giving great power capabilities for a 3.0L. I got the last 2020 AT4 from a dealership that had not even received it in at the time I paid for it. I love this fully loaded carbon ed. truck and plan on it being the last truck I ever buy for personal use. The only complaint I have with this truck is I cannot turn off and leave off the auto stop feature I have to remember to turn it off ever time I get into the truck after starting it. The times I forget it surprises me while driving and not to mention I believe it's unsafe because there have been time where I'll preform a rolling yield before tring to stay ahead of large traffic pools and it will shut off on me as I go to give it gas. That is akward and has been jarring/jerking when the gas catches up with the peddle position after restarting. Other than that one thing absolutly love it.
@@ramrider1453 The Silverado and the Sierra have the same interiors besides the different steering wheels and logos. I honestly prefer the Silverado over the Sierra just because of the exterior styling.
@@Inferno45 Yes both interiors are bland. Actually the Silverado is growing on me. I prefer the hood contour more on the Silverado while sitting behind the wheel. But I lean more towards the GM overall.
@@ramrider1453 They are honestly both good trucks. I cant wait to see the new refreshed designs next year with the new interiors. I just hope they don’t use the New Tahoe and Suburban interior’s they don’t really fit a pickup truck. They are more Suv styled interiors.
@@ramrider1453 GM = General Motors. You prefer the Sierra over the Silverado. If you meant GMC.....be better to compare the manufacturers OR the models, but not mix the two. GMC over the Chevrolet.....OR.....Sierra over the Silverado.
I noticed that when you showed the rancho shocks,the underneath was pretty rusty that being said, it’s a 2021 truck brand new. Why is it so rusty being a new truck?
So with a weight distro hitch a raptor has an 8k pound tow. I don't know much about trucks but would have thought the AT4 would be more because it doesn't have raptors soft suspension
I want an AT4 so bad but I’m waiting for that interior refresh. Although I like the interior on the current GM trucks I’m not in love with it and the center console is pathetic. The previous generation had a far superior dash/center console. Much more useful.
It is an aftermarket package done by Southern Comfort Automotive (SCA). They have packages for GM, RAM, Ford, Jeep and Nissan trucks and are sold through dealerships.
All of those "custom packages".....Black Widow, Tuscany, Roush, etc are way over priced. The vast majority of the add on aftermarket parts are inexpensive aesthetic body parts. The lower cladding on the Tuscany custom package looks stupid on a 4WD truck. However, some of the parts are kinda cool. The center front bumper on the Tuscany trucks have a custom part to hold a specified size of light bar. The Roush fender flares on the Ford Super Duty trucks have tiny amber and red DOT type lights.
The fuel mileage with these inline 6's is ridiculously good. Beautiful truck but the crew cab only with this package is a deal breaker for me. I don't understand the obsession with the SUV cab and miniature bed. Besides that it looks disproportionate, the bed is damn near useless.
I like the truck but all this surface rust underneath these GM and Ford trucks is really annoying, paying that much for a truck and they can’t coat it underneath . Wow!!!
I agree so much money and this 21 has a lot of rust already it’s gross. GM with the wax based frame coating needs to be updated. It’s garbage. Learn from others GM. Epoxy is the way to go. Or at least paint it first. Not wax it right over the raw steel. Why is this even an issue on truck in this price point. I’m guessing they want the trucks frame to rust out in 10 years so people buy a new one.
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It would take me a 100 years to learn Russian, yet Andre can review cars in English better than most who were born here! Props!
is andre russian ?
@@jassihra8566 yup
Lol I thought he was Hispanic.
Newsflash, most countries outside of America teach their children multiple languages including English. Him knowing English isn't some Christmas miracle, it's the norm, if anything he probably knows like 5 languages.
A beautiful Russian woman could teach you Russian real quick
I love my 2019, 6.2. I was pretty disappointed with the Rancho shocks. The front end would wallow and the truck bed would chatter on bad surfaces. I installed Bilstein 6112 in the rear and 5100 in the front. The truck rides so good on and off road now. The Goodyear Dura Trac tires were a more noisy that I liked so I swapped them for BF Goodrich All Terrains. Road noise is almost non existent now. The best MPG I got was California to Jasper Canada was 21.2 MPG. Very happy with this truck.
Good Move.......exchanging the "Fake Rancho Shocks" for the Bilstein Shocks. However, if you get that AT4 in the mud you will want the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac tires. If your AT4 stays on paved roads and never gets in the mud......why have it?
@@15Jeep because you can
@@nabatron21 Because a person CAN? Yeah...OK...whatever. They WANT it and CAN afford it. However, if any individual EVER NEEDS to USE the AT4 off-road, it will never ever perform like a Ford Super Duty Tremor off-road. The AT4 with IFS axle and low hanging frame rails will get stuck on uneven terrain off-road way before a Ford or a Dodge truck.
@@15Jeep thats if people use the vehicle on Off-Road. If they use it on road like 90% of them then it won't matter
I have Ranchos on my 2017 - absolute garbage. Worst shocks ever.
I have an AT4 and I believe it is the best truck that GM offers. It has tall the tech features, it has a decent interior that looks really nice, and it has a look that looks good to people who like aggressive and traditional looks.
It has an interior of a 2009 ford/dodge
@@rodepost it has a heads up display, camera mirror, 360 cam and custom heated cooled seats. Good enough for me.
@rodepost must be you're car right there because fords are not realible these days
I love my 2019 AT4 with the 6.2! I got every option but a sun roof! This truck works well in the Southern Arizona trails!
Love my 21 Duramax. Have owned Ford and Ram . No surface rust yet 4 months in with quite a bit of Colorado winter driving
I have the 3.0 Duramax in my GMC, just over a year old, a lot of camper towing, and 10,000 miles no issues yet!
10000 miles I would not expect any problems. 60,000 miles let me know!
Not saying anything negative I am hopeful some newer trucks can start being more reliable with all the tech these newer trucks have
@@benmcintosh1234 it will take me about six years to get there but I will. And I have owned several trucks with issues in the first year. I also hope it goes for the long term, I want to get 100,000 out of it with nothing major
When I talk reliably, I mean 300k miles. Every car should make it to 180k without major engine/transmission failure.
What camper are you towing? I'm interested in an AT4 and especially the 3.0 Duramax but I want to tow a camper sometimes. Any comments on your experience while towing appreciated.
My 2020 At4 w/a 6.2 has been flawless after 12K, Best truck I've ever purchased.
I hope its flawless lol the truck is new! You will know in 5 years if its the best truck you purchased
I’ve had mine since mid Dec, 2020 - same cayenne red, diesel, features, etc. Live in central Idaho mountains so we still have snow, cold temperatures and back roads are snow covered for a couple of months but expect the truck will be great on them. Getting 24 mpg including some 85 mph freeway travel and time idling in parking lots and the driveway. Like the solid comfort of the suspension. Looks like what a truck should look like. Have to admit I’m a GM guy for 50 years now but I continue to be very pleased with everything so far.
Beautiful Truck, nicely done Andre. I have to chuckle at all these comments about the surface rust. He's in Michigan folks. Surface rust happens quickly on vehicles. I don't care if its Ford, Dodge or GM. If it's rusting in Southern Texas..Ok you might have a problem, but up here in the north with snow, gravel, salt and sand it's just an unfortunate part of life that your truck will quickly get surface rust underneath. How bad it get will depend on how well you wash and maintain your truck and how bad the roads are you are driving.
TFL is my favorite channel to watch on TH-cam :) Amazing Review Andre :)
I own the 3.0 diesel in my Denali....absolutely amazing performance and fuel economy...the AT4 is one of the best looking trucks currently offered IMO.....thanks for the review
Love my 2019 AT4 with the 6.2! Haven't had a single issue even with frequently pulling the camper all over the PNW. 🤞
Would you recommend going for the big brake package?
Hell Yeah!!!
Keep those fingers crossed
A nice looking truck for sure! Love the diesel! Waiting for a modern day interior before I buy a GM full-size truck...
Let be real, majority of AT4 owners are not vying that truck for its offroad capabilities. They are buying it fir the looks. The body color bumpers, the rims fit it very well. Just really a overall great looking truck.
You are correct. Thats why I bought mine. The same can be said for Raptors, Jeeps, Broncos etc. hardly anyone takes an off road vehicle of any kind and rips the trails with it. I will take it to Colorado and have a little fun with it but 99% of the time, it will be on pavement.
I have the 2021 AT4 6.2L. Same color, fully loaded. Wife and I both love this truck. Very comfortable ride. All the bells and whistles (was not looking for fully loaded but it was the only one in that color available) Got it with the GM employee pricing at the end of December, only way to buy it saving nearly $10K. Will not be using it for off road very often, it is my daily use truck. I have seen the interiors of other brand trucks and am not really missing much with this interior. It may be a step behind others but I am very happy with what I have. They were VERY hard to find here in the Atlanta area and we stumbled across this one the morning after it was delivered to the dealership. We were the first customer to ask about it at opening and while we were inside after test drive negotiating they had multiple requests about it (as told to us by another customer). They had two black and one white 2021 AT4's available as well and one black one sold while we were there. It is a luxury / off road truck that works for a lot of folks. We are very happy with ours. Zero rust so far. No issues.
We just bought the 2021 AT4 today, CarbonPro 6.2
This truck is so nice, interior is on point, sweet truck for sure
I wish you all the best. Our 6.2 had a major tear down and my friends is completely blown. Crate motor is way to pricy. Cannot find a used. He is trying to sell it with no motor.
My list.
6:2 tear down
Transmission never ever came close. After 5 or 6 re program
Passenger seat caught on fire. Seat warmer stayed on. Great for a unique interior smell.
All 4 electromagnetic shock gone. $4500 here in Canada.
Paint chips from day 1 on lower front bumper and around. Dealer said dirt roads. Wife’s truck. Never went on dirt road.
Rear window replace. Fire recall
6 other recalls for things like brakes and reprogram.
My friend has 6.2 just out of warranty. Blown. Crate $10000. No used one anywhere
We have sold and moved on. So watch it this is not a quality built truck. Not even close
@@mikestronach4762 typical post bailout gm garbage
I'm amazed at how manufacturers keep putting things on vehicle( tech package/cameras out the wazoo) and folks just become fascinated that it's a must have. This truck has at least $10k worth of options that I have no use for because they drive up the price and are things I never would use or need. Just give me a truck that functions, straight up aspirated engine, no turbo and keep the price lower than the cost of a house.
Very Nice Truck. I like the boxy shape and seems a good compromise between an off-road truck and daily driver. However, that rust on the rear axle and under body for a new truck is a bit of a concern.
You’re right, hard to find. Ended up factory ordering one about 4 weeks ago. Great looking truck
@@americanadreaming
I did the same “6.2” coming from the 5.3 pretty excited. I called GM and if no further delays it’s production week is this coming 26th. Fingers crossed
@@americanadreaming
You sound an awful like myself. I’m actually having the truck go right from factory off to Tuscany. Having them do the ZRX package. Check it out, if you haven’t seen one. I hear ya on the ranchos, glad there coming off, I have them on my Silverado.
I have a 2020 5.3 liter. Love the look, feel and stance of this truck. Really smooth with decent highway mpg but I've had some issues with the brakes going out on me twice and the battery being faulty. I've had it a year now with 20k miles on it I really hope all the bugs are fixed if not ill be going back to a tundra trd pro.
Same here. New Truck with the cheap AC Delco battery was awful and caused electrical problem just after 612 miles. I have had no brake problems though, 17K miles so far. Good luck!!
I own a 21 1500 denali duramax and have had 4 major issues prior to it's first oil change. Can't argue love the mpg when it works but have had as much drive time with other GM rentals as well.
Must've gotten a bit of a lemon, what all's gone wrong?
@@Prestiged_peck
First was a diesel particulate sensor around 3000 miles followed by def system heating stage which of course caused the truck to go to limp mode speed restriction. Just prior to it's first oil change I had numerous sensors alarming with the truck where the soeedometer, tachometer, suspension, esc, and parking brake began alarming and throwing codes. This was supposedly caused by the braking module. Go to pick it up from the dealer, start the engine go to pull out of the parking space and the truck shudders and says reduced engine power with check engine light. Currently waiting to get full information on what this set of issues is, but definitely not a good look for reliability front. Again mpg is amazing I average 32 mpg with the best score being 36.9 mainly using adaptive cruise control. Just can't stand making a payment on a vehicle that I can't drive. First oil change was done while it was in for this last long stretch.
@@brettray1092 dang, still find it funny that it's always the emissions shit that goes out first on modern diesels, makes my gassers look good.
@@brettray1092 Sorry man. It burns even more when it's a $60K car. Hope it gets resolved for good.
The last thing was supposed to be too much resistance through the ground causing the electrical system to drop . 4 volts. This time was able to drive the truck not only off the lot but even to my house. Truck seems to be running fine again and I still have my 32 mpg average on my trip. Even researched that the infotainment error has finally been patched so hopefully will be problem free from there on out.
The rear axle ‘rust’ is not an issue, it’s made of nodular iron, which depending on the exact metallurgical formulation is no concern at all. Your body will fail before the rust could ever make the axle fail!
Just checked my 2019 Silverado underneath. No rust at all. Southern Utah and Tennessee winters. Not much snow there, thus much less salt I guess.
That one has rust on the rear diff also!
Nice salted Michigan roads, does wonders for vehicles.......
Took the words out of my mouth
Way too soon for that no doubt!
So maybe it's not a ford issue maybe it's a steel supplier issue?!
And shocks!
Seeing this makes me want to peek under my 19 AT4 and see if my rear diff also has all that surface rust lol
Best not to look.... ;-)
Have a look, then spray some clear rust reformer. Then you’ll have peace of mind. Do that every 6 to 12 months.
Chevys banking on you NOT looking. 🙄
No need to look. Just assume it’s there.
are you in the rust belt? wash it and fluid film it.
Love my 2019 custom AT4! Traded in a 17 raptor for it and I have zero regrets!
Have 2021 gmc 1500 at4, love the ride, stance and overall quality...no rust here..ps use my 4x4 almost everyday for work and has handled everything I asked so far..also had a 2019 Silverado TB and put 71000 on it with no issues
I just got a used 2020 with 6.2. I was back and forth between silverado RST or trailboss since the new models came out . Then i started seeing these on the road and looked into them and it was like a switch flipped. Every time you go to look at a Silverado you have to say ok, what is it missing that you want. Could be everything you want and then no factory bed liner. You like certain wheels but most of them don’t have them. You want rear sliding window? Most of them don’t have one. Want a flex tailgate? Nope.
I came across a used AT4 and if there’s an option it doesn’t have I can’t imagine what it is. I want it all and it’s almost too much even for me. Cooled seats and HUD. Heated seats in back. Power folding mirrors . Power rear slider. Bed liner. Multipro flex tailgate. Camera mirror. 360 view backup cam. Sunroof. Accident avoidance.
it even looks better than the multitude of silverados you see everywhere. Its in the same price range used. Mine has 20” tires. The 2” lift makes it pretty tall to get in and out of. The side steps are necessary. It doesn’t help fuel economy. The driver info center is excellent. I didn’t get the interior refresh but I’m fine. There’s no waiting for retrofits due to chip shortage. Granted, it came with some miles but a clean car fax report with no major issues in the history. This is why they’re popular. It’s like a Denali inside and a super sharp off-road truck on the outside.
Because of you guys, this will be the truck I buy. It's perfect! You guys are awesome!
First of all I love you guys. I watch your channel because it does help me better understand the trucks and their capabilities before I buy. Now with all that said it's time for your show to start setting up these trucks with the same off road tires with like speaks so we can see who is best on road, mud, sand, rocks, gas mileage, tow and snow. I believe the only changes you would need to make are tires, close gearing and ride height. If you put ten to fifteen videos together showing these trucks in sand, mud, road, towing, rocks, milage and snow views like myself will be glued to your videos and most likely they will become most viewed... Thanks for reading and good luck guys... The Banks Family
It's the truck design because it looks rugged and classy .better then all the other brands even the silverado
I really wanted the AT4 with a 3.0L duramax. But the Trailboss LT was 10k cheaper. I don't regret it though. Trailboss is a great truck still.
Love my 2020 AT4 with the 3.0L Duramax!
Same. Love mine
Same! I love my '21 with the Duramax.
I do a lot of city driving. Would you recommend that motor still?
@@jjc20102148 i owned a at4 with the duramax it was never used for towing very bad engine i switched to a 21 ram 1500 with turbo diesel way more reliable abd smoother truck over all dont reccomend man
@@BMT_Blinds this diesel has been out for 3 years and has been reviewed and tested endless times and this is literally the first negative thing I've seen said about it. Don't listen to bmt blinds - you know he's full of shit when he says the RAM diesel is way more reliable 🤣🤣🤣
A week and a half ago I was able to buy a 2022 GMC Sierra AT4, in California from a dealership in Placerville California. With Cayenne Red Tintcoat also.
I’m here for the rust comments
Rancho shocks. The WallMart of suspension 😃
Them Rancho shocks whipping ass. Proves dont have to have all that fancy high price crap to meet the needs of 98% of the people buying them. More truck and shock than most will ever need. I like offroad but not going to slam a 70k truck in a mud pit no matter what the shocks are.
@@WontHe5786
I get it
I switched out my Ranchos at 4000 miles on my 2500. 3 of the 4 were trashed! They stayed compressed after removal. Put Icon's on it. Ride was night and day.
@@ryanrichardson9915 I've got right at 140,000 on mine, and they are functioning perfectly 🤷.
@@WontHe5786 lol you’re saltier than this piece of shit truck lolll
Wish I could afford this truck lol. The new Sierras are so sweet
I had it special ordered from Mexico since no dealer in the US would sell it to me (in Europe). Costed me 50% more but hey it gets me chicks so it is well worth its price.
Wait.... You mean to say a 2021 GMC has rust color on the rear diff pumpkin??? This isn’t just a Ford thing like everyone freaked out about a month ago??.... That’s pretty cruddy looking under there for a new, 2021, vehicle.... Great review by the way TFL!!
I’m glad so many people make so much money they can buy these trucks. It’s a great economy
Absolutely love my 2020 Sierra Denali 6.2. I drove all the competition and found the GMC had the best overall balance of power, ride, handling, and features. Would I like a nicer dash? Sure, but that’s my only single complaint and if the press didn’t constantly harp on that it wouldn’t bother me one but. 21k and no issues. My last truck was a ecoboost ford (2018) and that thing was in the shop every other month with some ailment.
Rust under the carriage already for 2021
Just purchased mine yesterday!! Loving it!!!
Andre,.. that ride is slushy as can be, downright squishy,.. I put Bilstein 6112 / 5160 package in mine and it's a ton better,.. and I too love the diesel. 24mpg combined is almost exactly what I get
From where did you buy the biletein shock please?
@@user-jk6qx1vp4p sold all over the internet google it
GMC Sierra is the best truck you can buy right now.
Sure, smoke another one
Placed an order for my 2021 Sierra AT4 last week and cannot wait for it to come in! I got lucky and avoided the 3-5 month wait due to covid ATM. It's a beautiful truck but quite hard to get at the moment. Wish I would have been able to get the 3.0L diesel over the 5.3L V8.
Andre is the best on the channel by far
Tommy is good too. Love ya Roman but let those two guys take the lead
Some underside rust already, like Fords. Is steel that bad these days?!
Sad new trucks rust so early! They can't sell you a new one if they last.
Yes the quality of the steel is not the same as it used to be especially for 70k
In Michigan, due to excessive salt usage on the roads, vehicles rust at an alarming pace. My dad bought a 94 Sierra from down south that had never seen snow, and within 2 years the cab corners were entirely rusted out. At 4:05 when he opens the hood, you can see the residual salt all over the engine bay.
I agree, the GMC this time 'round is a great looking truck. If I were in the market today, I think I'd also like to check out the 2.7 litre in-line 4 that these folks have . Which is better on fuel,
this in-line six diesel, or the 4 cylinder?
Thanks for this TFL / Andre!
4 cylinder? Said no one ever except a special kind of libby
One has to wonder if the rust on the underside is an option - or if it is standard equipment.
It's a dealer add on
I bought one with a 3.0l...because the Ford Diesel was 8k more, and I don't trust RAM after the eco-diesel escapade. I honestly don't care how it drives off road, but it will be going down a lot of gravel roads and they can get pretty spongey in the spring when the frost comes out of the road.
Ford diesel is an afterthough and the ecodiesel has shown a lot of problems. Only the duramax was made for this pickup. Also, this 3.0 duramax is offered internationally by GM, so I think they put more though on it
Best looking truck out there by far right now
Yeah, I had to wait 3 months to get my Max loaded 6.2 carbon pro AT4.
Yeah 2230 lbs rated bed weight 💜
I would consider buying a Sierra if GM gives it a better interior, which should be coming this fall, and the 3.0 diesel is definitely the engine I would choose. However, as it stands I'm leaning toward buying an F150 next year, but I'll definitely cross shop the new Sierra and the new Tundra. Nice review...Andre is the best presenter on TFL!
What do you not like about the interior
I'd recommend that you avoid Ford like the plague. A few friends of mine bought new F150s within the last year and are already having issues with the transmission, transfer case, steering, and even the pedals vibrating and coming loose. After the issues I had with my 2016 F150 I can never recommend them. I switched to Ram and haven't looked back. If you do get the F150, good luck with it.
Does anyone even use any of these fancy cameras. You pay 3500$ for
@@TheRabbit91476 nope
The interior is great. What are you talking about??
I work with a guy who bought the AT4 last year. He let me drive it. I'm a GM guy and would love to have this truck, but I just can't see laying out 80 thousand dollars for something that will depreciate. The most I've ever spent on a new truck was $56,000 for a 1500 SLT Quad cab 4x4 with a 6.2 liter engine and the heavy duty towing package.
My question if anyone can answer. Does a 6 cylinder diesel start in the winter easier than a 8 cylinder?? Like I’d having a 6 cylinder not as bad to get fired up in the winter?
My biggest gripe besides the god awful interior is the tires and not being big enough. A locker like the Ford and ram couldn’t hurt either.
Great review, Andre. I am a big fan of GMC trucks and that is a very nice example. Colors included.
Hey TFL, in your expert opinion which engine will last longest and be most reliable in the 1/2 ton application? Thanks and really enjoy the content.
Love mine they are the right package. Cons- need bigger gas tank. Needs the mirror light to be able to come on while driving & bed light
All 1/2 tons these days need bigger fuel tanks. I guess the easiest thing to do to cut weight is to shrink the tank but i can tell you from experience itll get old fast pumping fuel every 2-3 days
@@jimmysuperduty1484 🤣my f150 has 136L (35g +/-) tank! How much bigger do you want??
Can you guys do a long term on one of the half ton diesels? Besides the ecodiesel, as you guys have already tackled that one
North American brands have been criticized for years for their lack of undercoating protection, specifically and especially GM. I like this truck. It's functional, equipped and affordable. Until they put a little more quality in the way of aging, I'll be buying my Toyota trucks, and many Atlantic Canadians who need reliable vehicles will be too.
Shock mounts, u joints and diff already have surface rust. I wonder what that will look like after 5 years🤔
The same. It will look exactly the same
Everyone's giving ford crap for the surface rust on their 21 models but this issue seems to not be limited to ford, betcha it's a zinc coat issue.
@@jasonlarsen3515 no they'll be a whole a lot more and won't last 10 years ford oil pans rot out in 2 years rust is cancer
@@devinchurchill7851 cool story,
Crazy that truck has more rust than my 1991 f150 5.0
Where do you live
Don’t know about him but I live in Indiana and don’t have those issues. Just take it to the car wash once every other week.
I really want to know how comfortable are the seats ? Because my 2003 Chevy suburban is way more comfortable than my dad's 2015 GMC Sierra & those seats are so hard uncomfortable for me. Can't wait to see when the GM trucks get their new updated interiors.
Although I enjoy these truck reviews, the cost is just insane. Even under a 72 month auto loan you're looking at anywhere between 900-1000 dollars a month without a deposit or trade-in.
I wonder if the silverado/sierra refresh reveal is coming soon
Seems like it's taking forever.
@@Ballista762 seems like GM is literally throwing these trucks to the side to focus on the Hummer sigh
@@BIGJBIGEBIGC I’d be all over the hummer if it wasn’t like $125k 🤬
@@Ballista762 I would too lol and at least 400 mile range count me in. Otherwise count me out
@@BIGJBIGEBIGC Why?
Silverado/Sierra have the best bed/tailgate in the business. The 6.2L and 3L Duramax are my preferred powertrains currently offered in the 1/2 ton segment. GM's 10 speed tuning is spot on. The chassis is extremely good with suspension setups that are great for towing/hauling. They're refreshing the truck after 3 years.
Not sure why you feel GM is neglecting their 1/2 tons.
I own a F150 BTW.
I have a 2008 Sierra SLT 4x4 that I bought new. I have nearly 200,000 on it and it still looks and drives like new. There is no reason to buy a new on as this truck is still stylish and handles great with the 6L L76 aluminum block engine, although this new truck looks great. Much better styling that the Ford or Dodge.
this GMC truck looks nice. Im intrigued by the 3.0L duramax 1000$ diesel option. although overall the price 65K is alot when I compared it to the F-150 Lariat 2020 2.7L. at 50K dealer discount included. I wasnt avle to justify a 16K$ price swing. so I went with the F-150
Which camera operated the rearview mirror is the one showing the bed or the tail gate makes difference if putting on a cap
I’m assuming this truck was purchased in 2020 to have that much rust for a new truck. So with that being said...if he’s in Detroit, then this thing was DEFINITELY driven in snow and salt. But I agree, to much RUST for a new vehicle. Might have to stray looking elsewhere at other companies.
I have a 2019 Ram. Drive on salty roads and winter in Canada. No surface rust at all on the diff or under carriage. My old 2003 GM had some but the truck was 17 years old. Sad that some of these new trucks develop that surface rust like that and we pay that can’t of money. My old truck I painted the back diff. I like a clean looking under carriage. On a new truck that would drive me nuts
love this pickup
That's a pretty respectable tire and suspension package for a factory truck. With a diesel? Crushing it.
The tires and suspension on the AT4 are only slightly better than standard GMC 4WD trucks. The Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac tires are nice.....capable with siping on the lugs on snow packed roads and decent lugs for off-road in the mud......but the 275 / 70R - 18 size is still too small (33.2 x 11.0 for OWL or 33.4 x 11.0 for BSW). The suspension.....the shocks are "Fake Rancho Shocks"......same junk found in years past on Ford Super Duty trucks with the FX4 package. Go off-road in a 4WD equipped with King, Fox, Falcon, Icon, Bilstein shocks.....you will never want Rancho, Skyjacker, Super Lift, etc shocks again.
That is the best looking truck on the road right now, and that’s coming from an owner of a 2018 Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 4wd. I would trade my truck in on one in a minute if o could get the right deal.
The rear differential is already rusting! 😭
no shit. did you se how much salt was on the ground? anyone that thinks that's rust obviously doesn't live anywhere wit actual rust. i'm a mechanic in east coast Canada and a lot of the time i have to cut exhaust bolts off with a torch on 2 year old vehicles and im replacing mufflers on 3 year old vehicles
@@ironsaber2 word
@@ironsaber2 I think it was mentioned due to another video released on this channel in the past couple days. The Ford truck video.
So you haven’t seen the new f 150?
@@ironsaber2 thats why everyone loves BC vihicles. No rust
Love that brand new rust!!!
Is the 2022 refresh losing the shifter on the column & going to a know or dial???
Hi. Has anyone been able to compare for quality of the Sierra Denali vs. the AT4X? I have a ‘19 Sierra Denali, but really like the AT4s…and was curious to the ride smoothness comparison? Thanks!!!! (Also is there any tire noise)
it's because the pandemic hit just a couple months after GM had finished up their boycotting. So there were not alot made in 2020. The mass assortment of options that are availble with the different versions of the 1500 and not to mention the fact that the Duramax 3.0L is killing it on fuel economy and 12 speed trans combo giving great power capabilities for a 3.0L. I got the last 2020 AT4 from a dealership that had not even received it in at the time I paid for it. I love this fully loaded carbon ed. truck and plan on it being the last truck I ever buy for personal use. The only complaint I have with this truck is I cannot turn off and leave off the auto stop feature I have to remember to turn it off ever time I get into the truck after starting it. The times I forget it surprises me while driving and not to mention I believe it's unsafe because there have been time where I'll preform a rolling yield before tring to stay ahead of large traffic pools and it will shut off on me as I go to give it gas. That is akward and has been jarring/jerking when the gas catches up with the peddle position after restarting. Other than that one thing absolutly love it.
Look into switching the fuse to the left. There’s vids on how to do it, it’ll stay off
@@ronzy417 ok I'll look into it thanks
Absolutely love gmc sierra's
Me to. Prefer GM over Silverado. Just hate the interior more and more. Can’t wait to see there new update
@@ramrider1453 The Silverado and the Sierra have the same interiors besides the different steering wheels and logos. I honestly prefer the Silverado over the Sierra just because of the exterior styling.
@@Inferno45 Yes both interiors are bland. Actually the Silverado is growing on me. I prefer the hood contour more on the Silverado while sitting behind the wheel. But I lean more towards the GM overall.
@@ramrider1453 They are honestly both good trucks. I cant wait to see the new refreshed designs next year with the new interiors. I just hope they don’t use the New Tahoe and Suburban interior’s they don’t really fit a pickup truck. They are more Suv styled interiors.
@@ramrider1453 GM = General Motors. You prefer the Sierra over the Silverado. If you meant GMC.....be better to compare the manufacturers OR the models, but not mix the two. GMC over the Chevrolet.....OR.....Sierra over the Silverado.
Is this a new truck? Was it me or was there rust on those Rancho shocks and some of the other undercarriage/suspension parts?
Hello .. please help with this .. Does high sulfur diesel work in this engine .. and what is it diesel exhaust fluid .. thank you very much 💖
Looks nice, how long will it last.
I noticed that when you showed the rancho shocks,the underneath was pretty rusty that being said, it’s a 2021 truck brand new. Why is it so rusty being a new truck?
Question: is the AT4 and the Elevation fairly compatible except for the 2” lift and skid plates? And does that change the MPG ratings on the 3.0L?
3.0 I would get average 25mpg before my lift now I get 18 sometimes 21.
@@thiagoarmenta8934 Wow. That is quite a drop. For me the biggest reason to get the 3.0 is the good MPG.
Thinking bout buying one
Profitable truck for GM for sure. Overall looks like a good truck.
Good review, Andre. I’m curious if you all could delve into what differentiates a Chevy and a GMC. I’m honestly not sure what the difference is.
No difference other than looks and a few option packages. Same engines, tramsmisions, chassis.
So with a weight distro hitch a raptor has an 8k pound tow. I don't know much about trucks but would have thought the AT4 would be more because it doesn't have raptors soft suspension
Would the tailgate miss your hitch if you opened it without removing the hitch? It looks really close.
No it will hit, even with a drop hitch
Don’t feel bad about the rust on your F-150. The GMC has it too.
What is the mile difference? Think before you talk!
I want an AT4 so bad but I’m waiting for that interior refresh. Although I like the interior on the current GM trucks I’m not in love with it and the center console is pathetic. The previous generation had a far superior dash/center console. Much more useful.
Well I really love my 2021 3500 Denali duramax, so I'm sure the at4 is pretty good too
The surface rust isn’t diddy.. I touched mine up every year in 5 minutes.. did so on my 2014 2016 and now my 2021
After watching I bought a Silverado trail boss
Yea so did I. 6.2 version. Fast and powerful
Ive seen a couple videos about the Sierra AT4 “Black Widow”. Is that straight from the Factory or Custom?
It is an aftermarket package done by Southern Comfort Automotive (SCA). They have packages for GM, RAM, Ford, Jeep and Nissan trucks and are sold through dealerships.
It’s an aftermarket option done by dealers installed by SCA and they charge 15k for 5k worth of parts and labor.
All of those "custom packages".....Black Widow, Tuscany, Roush, etc are way over priced. The vast majority of the add on aftermarket parts are inexpensive aesthetic body parts. The lower cladding on the Tuscany custom package looks stupid on a 4WD truck. However, some of the parts are kinda cool. The center front bumper on the Tuscany trucks have a custom part to hold a specified size of light bar. The Roush fender flares on the Ford Super Duty trucks have tiny amber and red DOT type lights.
The fuel mileage with these inline 6's is ridiculously good. Beautiful truck but the crew cab only with this package is a deal breaker for me. I don't understand the obsession with the SUV cab and miniature bed. Besides that it looks disproportionate, the bed is damn near useless.
What's with all the rust on the rear pumpkin? Red seems to be the new popular color.
I like the truck but all this surface rust underneath these GM and Ford trucks is really annoying, paying that much for a truck and they can’t coat it underneath . Wow!!!
I agree so much money and this 21 has a lot of rust already it’s gross. GM with the wax based frame coating needs to be updated. It’s garbage. Learn from others GM. Epoxy is the way to go. Or at least paint it first. Not wax it right over the raw steel. Why is this even an issue on truck in this price point. I’m guessing they want the trucks frame to rust out in 10 years so people buy a new one.
Rust already on the rear diff?