Very valuable information. I can clearly see exactly what you described and how it will improve the drive mechanism and future problems, which, after having welded the spline shaft to the adjuster, should remove any possibility of it recurring, leaving only one possible cause, cable adjustment/replacement.
You are absolutely right. I had same issue. The newer models have a better fixing arrangement to stop it slipping. Your weld option is good one as the gearbox is well built and should last a lifetime. Changing the cable in event of stretching is last option.
i watched your video and bought a near new hru216 with same "clicking" issue,it actually drives fine on concrete floor when tested but i knew something fishy thats why that guy selling it so cheap. as expected when i took it home and mow some grass it made clicking noise but not moving. instead of taking whole gearbox out,i only move one panel besides the shooting port so i can reach this clutch arm, loose that bolt and gave a light knock with hammer and screwdrive now it drives fantastic! thank you so much!
Mine is 3 years old, not a lot of use and mower shop said that the gearbox needed replacing but the wheels still turn when lifted off the ground so I wasn't convinced. I did exactly how you mentioned and it started working until it slipped back again. Have you actually welded yours? And if so, did you drop the entire gearbox to do so? Cheers
@@Futurenow77 i did second adjustment to make it bit tighter(i didnt drop gearbox, only remove the left panel) and i used little bit “JBweld” after the adjustment.it seems working 100%fine.
Just to be clear, Are you saying the lever loosens or wears on the splined shaft? which then reduces the amount of throw. so the dog gear doesn't fully engage. and or the cable is stretched and creating the same problem.
Honda had some issues with the cable and people were thinking the gearbox was broken , I believe they now have this sorted out . I have a brand new M3 and it has been fine
@@mowtech7397 that lot of M3 must be a bad batch,i bought one not long ago almost brand new for only 700NZD,that guy must think gearbox is bad but lucky i watched your video before i went to buy. i had a smile on my face(and i fixed it).thank you
@@mowtech7397 You are right. The gearbox is well built it was the connection to the spline thats the issue.They have fixed the problem on newer models. Cable stretch is not the issue.
Hi, there, I am from SydneyI want to ask you when the engine is off and you engage the drive clutch, can the rear wheel moves forward? When engage drive clutch, can the rear wheel moves backwards?
I have inherited one of these and trying to figure something out. Does it "drive" both rear wheels or just the right? seem to not have any power on the left so it works but it's a pain to push.
@@mowtech7397Just fixed it. For some reason the ratchet on the left wheel had moved a few mm forward so it was no longer engaging (the wheel was spinning freely forwards and backwards without moving the axle). Pulled the wheel off and reseated everything. Click click click when going backwards and moves axle now when spinning forward. Thanks again!!!
Somewhat off topic but does anyone know if the replacement gearboxes come full of oil? I assume yes as I can not find anywhere to fill it bt would rather ask soeone that knows.
@@mowtech7397 Thanks mate, I gave up and opened it up an hour or so ago. Looked a lot less than the specced 250ml so topped it up and had fun getting it to close back up. Got there in the end though.
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Very valuable information. I can clearly see exactly what you described and how it will improve the drive mechanism and future problems, which, after having welded the spline shaft to the adjuster, should remove any possibility of it recurring, leaving only one possible cause, cable adjustment/replacement.
You are absolutely right. I had same issue. The newer models have a better fixing arrangement to stop it slipping. Your weld option is good one as the gearbox is well built and should last a lifetime. Changing the cable in event of stretching is last option.
More great tips. I’m really enjoying your videos. Thanks for taking the time
to make them.
i watched your video and bought a near new hru216 with same "clicking" issue,it actually drives fine on concrete floor when tested but i knew something fishy thats why that guy selling it so cheap. as expected when i took it home and mow some grass it made clicking noise but not moving. instead of taking whole gearbox out,i only move one panel besides the shooting port so i can reach this clutch arm, loose that bolt and gave a light knock with hammer and screwdrive now it drives fantastic! thank you so much!
Mine is 3 years old, not a lot of use and mower shop said that the gearbox needed replacing but the wheels still turn when lifted off the ground so I wasn't convinced. I did exactly how you mentioned and it started working until it slipped back again. Have you actually welded yours? And if so, did you drop the entire gearbox to do so? Cheers
@@Futurenow77 i did second adjustment to make it bit tighter(i didnt drop gearbox, only remove the left panel) and i used little bit “JBweld” after the adjustment.it seems working 100%fine.
@@LeonMTan Thank you
Excellent! Thanks for making this, will give it a go as problem is exactly as described.
Fantastic video, very helpful. Thankyou!
Best thing about this video is the simple instructions without any damn music
Thanks mate , I try to keep my videos short and to the point, I just wish I could edit them better
Fantastic video.
Thanks for the information.
Thanks for the video for now i have this problem and i now know how to fix it , Thank You
Thank you
Just to be clear, Are you saying the lever loosens or wears on the splined shaft? which then reduces the amount of throw. so the dog gear doesn't fully engage. and or the cable is stretched and creating the same problem.
Yes thats right
this"gearbox issue" happens on lot of M3 version of HRU216 from brand new, 2 of my mates return to shop for warrenty in first week.
Honda had some issues with the cable and people were thinking the gearbox was broken , I believe they now have this sorted out . I have a brand new M3 and it has been fine
@@mowtech7397 that lot of M3 must be a bad batch,i bought one not long ago almost brand new for only 700NZD,that guy must think gearbox is bad but lucky i watched your video before i went to buy. i had a smile on my face(and i fixed it).thank you
@@mowtech7397 You are right. The gearbox is well built it was the connection to the spline thats the issue.They have fixed the problem on newer models. Cable stretch is not the issue.
Hi, there, I am from SydneyI want to ask you when the engine is off and you engage the drive clutch, can the rear wheel moves forward? When engage drive clutch, can the rear wheel moves backwards?
They can move fowards but not backwards when you engage the drive.
Thank you for your useful information
I have inherited one of these and trying to figure something out. Does it "drive" both rear wheels or just the right?
seem to not have any power on the left so it works but it's a pain to push.
Yes it drives both wheels you may have a problem with the wheel ratchets
@@mowtech7397 Thanks. Will pull it apart and see what's going on
@@mowtech7397Just fixed it. For some reason the ratchet on the left wheel had moved a few mm forward so it was no longer engaging (the wheel was spinning freely forwards and backwards without moving the axle). Pulled the wheel off and reseated everything. Click click click when going backwards and moves axle now when spinning forward. Thanks again!!!
any oil in the gearbox? or is it sealed
It is sealed but yes there is oil inside, I have a friend who pulls them apart and fixes them
Somewhat off topic but does anyone know if the replacement gearboxes come full of oil? I assume yes as I can not find anywhere to fill it bt would rather ask soeone that knows.
Yes they come with oil in them
@@mowtech7397 Thanks mate, I gave up and opened it up an hour or so ago. Looked a lot less than the specced 250ml so topped it up and had fun getting it to close back up. Got there in the end though.
@@dwizdofoz. what nut do you take off to check the oil?
@@aaronneilen5094 All of them unfortunately, you have to split the gearbox. It's a poor oversight by the makers
@@dwizdofoz. so you carn't just check the oil, just wanted to check if enough oil is in it
Think this is too small a gearbox for a commercial mower
Pull the Bracket down