Honda HRR 216 Replace Wheel And Drive Gear Pinion
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- I replaced the rear wheels and drive pinions on my Honda HRR216 lawn mower. It was hardly pulling at all and the right wheels not keep pace with the left. I found both axles and pinions had zero lubrication. The metal stop would almost not compress into the spring loaded which causes all kind of issues. If you like the video like, share, and subscribe.
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For what it's worth, the "moon shaped" washer is called a wave washer. It takes the place of our 'lock' washer in Europe and Japan. I don't understand why you went through this whole process and didn't lubricate the gears.....still, I learned how to access the pinion gear as Honda calls it so I can lube it as the book requires....thanks
Excellent video. Saved my day as I was not aware of the spring loaded ratchet pins in the axle. The video made the job easy. THANK YOU!!!!!
Excellent video -- thank you!
Something that might help DIYers with the rear wheels on these Honda 216s: Each Pinion Gear (12-tooth) has a "punch mark" (small, shallow hole). After cleaning and lubing the gear, note that you install with the punch mark facing inside (for the Left Wheel) and facing outside (for the Right Wheel). This is according to the Honda 216VKA Shop Manual.
Take care!
-- Old Matt
To assist those unaware of the ratcheting sound, the ratcheting mechanism(s) are two of three parts. The spring, the KEY RATCHET 42672-VE2-800 and slot at the end of the axel (where the gear fit/slides over).. The spring sits in the middle of the slot and the key ratchet sits on top of the spring round side in. This is what sounds off the normal ratcheting sound when the rear wheels roll. These two parts will stay in the slot if you lubricate it with the correct thick grease requirement and hold it with your finger while placing the small gear back on the axel. Be sure to clean the axel slot and its parts if you are reusing. If not reusing be sure to clean the slot, lubricate it with grease before placing the spring and key back into place. You must also smear a liberal amount of grease around the gear after placing the lock ring back on it. You may also grease the larger wheel gear. I found that cleaning the plastic 'cap' and placing grease on the center divot helps maintain grease for the life of the lubrication. I just regreased mine after 15 years after servicing it this month. It had dried up but there was still a good amount of grease left on both gears. I was quite surprised. Honda strategically placed grease on the inside center of the cap in premolded divots as well as on the gears to 'seal from leakage over the years. The right grease does not leak from the cap even in a hot summer. It keeps its viscosity. Be sure to note how all parts are removed with cell phone. Clean and WD40 everything while you have it apart specifically the heighth lever mechanisms. A wire brush will clean the rust and dried grass and wd40 will keep it lubed and ready to go with some anti rust affects.
Most people who remove this drive gear from a honda self propelled mower
thinks that the flat edge of the drive gear should face forward since
that's the way the axle key would catch the gear to move it forward
however the drive axle actually spins backwards in order to spin the
gear on the actual wheel and tire forward so always make sure the flat
edge of the gear faces backwards. I made this mistake when I removed
mine.
Me too!
So what happens when the gear is wrong? I just put a new transmission in my hrr216 Honda and it will not pull forward! It will so slightly but does not have no power to pull the mower. I put the old one in cause it still worked and it does the same thing so I’m making the same mistake over and over!
@@davidd6854 *Sounds like you need to adjust the self propell cable. Turn the nut on the cable out to put more of a gap on the stud which will put more of a pull on the cable.*
@@bigtexas7580 ok thank u!
@@davidd6854 No problem
Thanks so much for this. Made the repair today and it’s running great now.
This is a very clearly stated way to troubleshoot forward gear movement and very easy to understand. Great job.
Thanks ! Got it fixed today.......also shot some anti-seize into the black bushing, and lithium grease. Now the self propelled works and I am now able to pull the lawnmower back without the drive wheels locking up. Thanks again. Total time for fix : 20 min
Great video! Nice tip on using magnetic holder to keep metallic washers in the correct order!
Good job... I replaced all 4 wheels on mine but I placed 3 washers on each front tire due to excessive wobble. Im ready to purchase the same mower but a one that has not been used much. These are good mowers.
Thank you for your time and help. You just saved me some $$$!
Thank You !! I Don't see many African American people doing Repairs.. I'm Native American.. Bless You !! I tried to get my repairs on TH-cam but did not go far.. I repair Lawnmowers.. Good Job !!
Great job just as good or better than the other videos.. where can I order a new bagger for my honda mower
My mower was exactly like yours . thank you for the very informative video , I fixed it myself .
Great video. I traded a buddy of mine an 18 pack of Bud light for his, yesterday.
Runs ok, but needs a service and a drive repair.
Thank you for your video your's was very informative and you showed how everything went off and on and what parts went where thank you great job 👍
good show chap, i plan to attempt tomorrow.
Thanks! It was a big help. You showed me what I did incorrectly.
Glad it helped.
Thank you! We going to give it a go today ☝️
like your attention to detail
Great video. It was very helpful. Thank you!
good vid . The best on the net from UK
Loved the "Thank God" when you found the spring. Boy, have I been there! Great video. Thanks.
Hey my g g, had to hit like cause you dropped the ratchet spanner, it made the video real for me!! And thanks heaps was helpful for me too!! Keep up the vids!! Thanks from Oz
Thank you Sir. You saved my day!
No problem!
Canada québécois Merci 😊love
Thanks for posting this video. Same issue my mower is having. Looks to be an easy fix for the most part. BTW, I like how you wrap your wheels too. Those tires wear out way too fast. 🙂 ✌
Glad it helped you. I hate how the wheels wear so fast too.
Great job.
Thanks. Got the same mower and same issue with my pinion gears getting grind down and making a jerking motion while cutting. Will replace everything now with new parts.
No problem. I’m about to replace the drive pulley and belt soon. Awesome mower.
Thank you, good vid, you helped me
No problem. Glad you could use it!
Enjoyed your comment whew, found it. I've been there, done that many times. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks for the vid! Good info.
Thank you for the video. I was not sure about which direction the pinion gear should be installed. According the the service manual for my rear wheel drive Toro the pinion gears are stamped L & R. You should see that from the side you install it on if oriented correctly. With this being the case my left pinion spins clockwise. The wheel spins the opposite direction driven off the gear. That kept throwing me for a loop until I figured it out.
The main issue for me was the spring behind the key getting stuck with gunk. Will see if I am successful putting it back together. My right side rear wheel was missing the key altogether. Curious though what frees the mower to roll backwards when you are moving it around since the key locks on the shaft?
Love the mantra, "Never mind I'll do it myself". I feel the same way. I repair my appliances, cars, etc when they need fixing & TH-cam is the best reference for it. I do appreciate your video and wanted to say thank you!
Thanks. That pinion gear gets everyone.
Thanks for the video! Did you have the problem with your mower where the wheels lock up when you try to reverse?
No my problem was the gears were worn causing the self propel to barely work. If you are having this problem then sounds like the pinion gears were put in backwards.or just something else in that area.
Hey where did those nobby wheel covers come from?
Good video the other problem with back wheel is there is a black plastic bushing thats built into the rear height adjuster it rolls on the rear axle if you ever have problem with the mower not pulling backwards or hanging up check out on youtube its spelled one word ( CarveTools )
Didn’t know about that! Next weekend I’m going to break it down and take a look at this.
Man....Great Video!
Thanks
very good video..thank you
BUDDY TAYLOR Your Welcome!
Merci 😮wow Québec
Before working on it, I will definitely throw some cleaner/rust etc & clean everything up. After it's dry & clean then throw some lube/grease... Then I can start working on whatever needs to be checked out... Honda mowers are good.... I have 3 of the same model... I usually buy things before they wear out... 2 cases of Honda oil & 55 gallon steel drum with premium fuel for my mowers & other equipment. Life is good.
I can’t tell from the video but is the key put down with top part flat or top part curved. It was blurry. Having same problem on my Honda mower. Had it for 6 years. Just bought the Honda parts. Going to try to fix it. One of the wheels doesnt click and freely rotates
Flat side up
Can it be used for commercial?
You are thee Man
4:27 Thank you
Did a dog chew on that wheel! I had to go to HF tonight and get some clip pliers. The Best ones were on sale for $13 . The cheap ones were $8 . I already had the cheapo ones before. I broke all the tips off and had to grind new tips. DONT buy the cheap ring clip plyers guys.
My snapping pliers are like yours and would not fit.
How does a metal drive gear wear working up against plastic understand the wheel replace but not the gear. Also.i would replace with the hr wheels they are rubber not plastic.
I thought it was supposed to ratchet in reverse not forward. Thanks and I also have some similar videod. Great job but backlighting didn't help visually.
Yep, needs to reverse the gear.
Nope, it's supposed to ratchet forward not backwards.
@@bigtexas7580 Yup, you are correct. Someone had one of mine on wrong on one side. They also used grease on everything. Damn mess.
I thought the same thing, but remember the pinion gear spins opposite of the wheel. He did it correctly in the video.
Yea, my back wheels usually always squeak every season. I have to grease them once a year. Annoying lol Honda HRX 217HYA 200cc
Definitely needed new wheels.
Does anyone else keep stripping pinion gears as if there is too much slop?
IT ROLLS BACKWARD BUT IT IS HARD TO TURN IT ON THE BACK WHEELS. IT'S LIKE IT'S LOCKED IN POSITRACTION
I love Honda mowers but the bushings get caked with dirt and then the moisture hits it and basically fills the bushing in with crud and it hardens and once it heats up it expands and squeezes the axle in turn making it to where you can't roll it backwards with one wheel or both. The right fix is to replace both rear bushings. I've done it a couple times and they're like $1.50 each. I ordered mine off Walmart's website and just bought six of them to have them on hand. Honda mowers are known for this problem.
Fix Both Pinion On Mine..New Springs Everything..
Somebody Had A Newer Model Honda With The Same Problem End Up Selling The 1 To 2 Yr Mower For $75.00 On Facebook Market Place
Sweet!
What's the part number for the gear?
I can’t remember but I’ll look it up for ya
my head hurts.
You can get it. It’s a good mower so it’s worth repairing
@@mrmarcuswms My mower has a star bit (torx) and wont come out to get the pully off.
Well to much grease, will pick up stones and dust
Damn brother, before you make your videos, use some damn lotion on those hands! I can't imagine how your elbows look 😂😂😂😂
he keeps not staying on subject crazy
What a joke
dude doing to much...not a good display
too much chitchat; just do the repair and explain.