Ultimate Marhall Sim Shootout! TC Jims 800 Vs Joyo British Sound
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2023
- Can this budget beast beat out the new kid in town by the titans of technology? The Joyo British Sound is often heralded as one of the best budget amp sims, but now TC Electronic have thrown their hat in the ring with the Ampworx series, could the Jims 800 be knocking the Joyo off the top spot? We take a no-nonsense look at just the tones in todays NTAT Vs. Settle in as we see if the TC Jims800 can stand up to the Joyo British Sound.
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The Joyos have internal cab sims too. I have the American and British on my board with a Boss line switcher. Fender cleans and Marshal dirt, running the effects with a Line 6 HX Effects. I've also got a Plumes and Fuzz Face before everything. I can make all the sounds. This board sees the stage a few times a month and sounds superb going directly to the board via DI box.
They do indeed, they're not voiced particularly well as many chose to mod it to bypass the internal sim and run an external cab sim instead. Sounds like you've got a great little set up to get the best out of it though, I'm digging the plumes and fuzz face pairing too. I bet that sounds killer 👍
Impressed with the Joyo. Thanks!!
Aye, it does very well 👍
Looking forward to this
It's very interesting. I'll be curious to see which everyone prefers 👍
Both are really impressive 👍
Yeah, that's a great point. Both are great options
Very good comparison, could have been a bit longer. The price difference is obvious, but I wouldn't dismiss the Joyo brand in any way, I like it, especially the R series. But this older pedal is also good, I have that too. Thanks for the video and I look forward to the next one. Pavel CZ.
The Vs series has always been short videos, mainly because both already have full length videos. I think joyo do make some great stuff and these amp sim pedals are great 👍
@@BudgetPedalChap I'm sorry, unfortunately I didn't know the shortened version mentioned on YT. My fault. Beautiful Friday evening. Hi Pavel CZ
They both sound great
Yup, I'd be happy to use either 👍
It might be my headphones, or just my preference, but I liked the Joyo. I’d love to hear the fender sims shoot out.
I'll see what I can do. I don't have the TC sim, but I do know someone who does 👍
Both sounded good I own the Jims 800. I love it.
Aye, I agree. I'd use both happily 👍
@@BudgetPedalChap After seeing this I will probably get the Joyo, Dang these TH-cam videos. making me spend money.
Over TH-cam, the sound difference isn’t massive, but the TC looks significantly more professional on a pedalboard. On a budget board though, there’s no reason not to get the quarter price option. I’ve got the American sound version on my board at home and it is way better than my orange micro terror would be on its own, which I now use as a power amp only (plugs into fx return at the back). Since it comes out of the orange cab, it doesn’t need an IR sim.
Yeah, that's fair. The joyo pedals are really great at putting in front of an amp to give them a different amp flavour too. I used to run the American sound on the clean channel of a blackstar amp to make it more fendery and it worked amazingly. Cheers for the comment 👍
I'm sitting at my desk waiting for my American sound to come in to put in my effects loop with my orange micro dark there that I've been swapping tubes around in. One of us one of us.
Nice comparison ! But doesnt the joyo already have a built in ir ?
Very well spotted. Though they say it does, I often find the joyo amp sims just sound a lot better when you run them with an amp sim as the built in one sounds a bit weak and thin 👍
Im hearing that the Jims has a bit of boost on the higher frequencies. That sounds better on the low gain comparison but doesn't sound as nice as gain goes up. At that point its level pegging
Aye, I would definitely roll back that high in the gainer examples. The great thing about the TC is that you can set all the settings completely different for both channels and the unit will remember it when you switch between them. There is no denying the joyo is holding it's own against this unit which is probably £100 more expensive though
The Joyo is fine but the TC has a bit more shimmer...at my current budget I'm happy with the Joyo sims, but if I was gigging regularly again or was making better money, I'd grab the TC.
Aye, that's a fair assessment. The joyo is fab considering the price 👍
The Joyo more than held its own.
Totally 👍 I don't think you'd be unhappy with either
For my taste I think the JIMS 800 wins, at least based on what I just listened to. I loved that high end that the Joyo doesn't seem to have. Maybe I'm wrong, was it perhaps due to slightly different settings?
However, I'm not dismissing the Joyo at all, it's a perfectly capable machine that holds its own, it works really well, and nobody would notice or care that you're using it. Price-wise it's the clear winner.
The settings were at a very neutral setting for both, I think if you really wanted to then you could get a more trebly sound from the joyo and like wise a more mid focused sound from the TC. I think the real take away is that either is a good choice and suitable for different budgets 👍
@@BudgetPedalChap I absolutely agree. We're living in the Golden Age of guitar gear.
I think the Jims 800 sounds quite much better but the Joyo is a fun pedal for the price
Yeah, the jims sound a bit more amp like, but the joyo is great fun for sure
Actually think I preferred the Joyo 😱
It's ok to prefer the joyo, it's a great pedal 👍
the jims have a cabsim or not?
Yes, it has 2 outputs - one with and one without 👍
@@BudgetPedalChap i dont understand, can u help me?
my signal chain is Reverb < Jims 800 < Tube screamer
is that right? i dont need cabsim pedal anymore?
@@sennasix what is that all going into? If you are going into the front end of an amp, no cab sim needed. If you are going into a desk or daw, you'll need the cab sim out. If you already have a cab sim pedal, you could stick that on the non cab sim out for a coffee of cab or run them both for a wide stereo sound
The only thing the joyo is missing is a decent Cab sim... it's actually astounding how close they are tonewise, but the joyo has no real cab sim, so it sounds or reacts more like a pedal... Pro Tip ... Put the Nux Solid Studio Power Amp & Microphone & Cabinet Sim after the Joyos ( no matter British, American, AC Tone , California or Oxford ) ... You will knock everything out of the park ... Promise !!!
This example is running through a cab sim, I used the same cab sim for both to keep it fair. The joyo is great for the price, I really like their cab sim range 👍
Pretty sure this Joyo series has a cab sim built in. Running it through another cab sim I think dulls the sound?
@@mkrj2576 they say it does, but it almost always sounds better when you run an external cab sim. My full demo of the pedal explorers it with and without the external cab sim 👍
Theres a point: joyo is much a plexi than a jcm.
The jims sounds much more like the amp while the joyo sounds like an overdrive pedal
I think that's a fair statement, you're spot on there
jims is 4X the price but not 4X better
It depends what you need. The channel switching and boost are great features and the option for cab sim or direct. You could buy 4 of them though 😂😂