Keep watch for the next video because we're going to continue this idea, not only finishing the connection between Jeremy and Bonnie, but also fully solving Princess Quest and PQ4 along the way! Also, there is a post it in Security Breach that says "Remember Jimmy", but it's not important for this theory. If this is meant to be "Remember Jeremy" then it's place in Security Breach is explained by the next video, but if this is not meant to be "Remember Jeremy" then it's simply a nod by SteelWool to that original phrase. Thank you all for watching! Let me know what you think of this theory, and if you have any information to further prove or disprove it! It is still a theory so it can always be disproven later when we learn more information!
Didn't the birthday cake we put into freddy's stomach hatch in HW2 have writing that said "Happy Birthday Jimmy!" or something? Or maybe it was Timmy, i can't remember.
1:40 I think the theory was that _Fritz Smith_ was a pseudonym for Michael Afton due to multiple possible connections, rather than _Jeremy Fitzgerald_ who’s seemingly confirmed to be a separate character in the logbook, since he writes about being moved the the Dayshift and something “following him home.”
Willn't it make more sense for Flitz Schmit to be Phone Guy? Phone Guy did got stuffed in the Freddy suit and it's someone Jeramy knows of but that's just a Theory lol.
Just thought of something here. · The kid possessing Foxy is named _Fritz,_ which we can connect to Fritz Smith. · Fritz Smith is not only fired for the same reasons as Mike Schmidt from the first game, but shares a last name (kinda). The surname _Schmidt_ is the German form of the English surname _Smith._ · Mike Schmidt shares his first name with Michael Afton, and we know Michael Afton worked at a _Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza_ location at some point (for free pizza vouchers, apparently). · Finally, Michael Afton, as a child, wore a mask of Foxy. And like I mentioned previously, Foxy is possessed by a kid named _Fritz._ It’s like a loop. Maybe the Foxy kid was named Fritz to help make this connection. IDK, but it’s an interesting theory. Also, it’s interesting how the three main Jeremys have some sort of head/face trauma/injury. Jeremy (the MCI kid) as Withered Bonnie loses his face. Jeremy Fitzgerald is theorized as and possibly the Bite of ‘87 victim. And the Jeremy from Help Wanted…seems to have sliced his face off. Heh, maybe the Crying Child is named Jeremy…I’m joking, it’s a joke.
@@kkplushproductions just wanna say that it has been pointed out that michael being fritz does require him to be fired as well. just wanted to let you know
This might be just not important, but Security breach also has a Jeremy mention twice. First mention is there is a sticky note that says "Remember Jeremy" in one of the workshop areas. The second one is Comedy bot mentions a boy name Jeremy getting abandoned at the pizzaplex.
If we assume that Jeremy was also Mike's friend with the Bonnie mask, then that seems to imply that William targeted a kid named Jeremy to stuff into the Bonnie animatronic as symbolic revenge for getting his son killed.
Also it might be related to stuffing a kid into Foxy before Bonnie since (apart from Susie who was probably more an experiment in his killing method) Mike wore a Foxy mask, so William would also resent that association, probably even more since it was his own son's bullying that got CC killed.
And if the theory is right that Michael Afton was using the pseudonym Fritz Smith while hunting his father, well, Fritz was the name of the child stuffed into Foxy. It seems like both William and Michael's every action revolved around what happened in 1983. William in revenge and Michael in repentance.
@@Momo_Minomomike can be Fritz smith cause the timeline wouldn’t work if he 13 or 14 in 83 he would 17 to 18 which would probably not big enough for him to work night shifts and is still be recognized by employers as the co owners son
@@freedomwriter9688 He'd definitely be young, but I actually have a family member who was doing night security at 18 so it's not impossible. As for the employees recognizing him as their employer's son I think you're underestimating how big Fazbear Entertainment was. They're a huge multi-million dollar corporation and judging by the layout, the Freddy's Michael grew up near isn't the FNAF 2 location. It's heavily implied William Afton was disguised as the day guard so if they didn't recognize one of the company founders I doubt they'd know Michael. The restaurant was also short staffed since Afton doing a runner after killing more kids had them shuffling around staff to fill the vacant space at the same time they'd clearly been showed their current security was insufficient. They needed more security staff urgently and I doubt many people were applying with the scandal of missing children tied to it. Fritz Smith only worked one night before being fired for the exact same reasons Mike was in FNAF 1 so I think it's plausible it was him.
One small nitpick towards the end, the final tape that tells you how to "kill" glitchtrap/Mimic1 doesn't work because its not by Tape Girl, its by Glitchtrap/Mimic1. You can tell because her original message is "dont collect the tapes, this is all i can do to stop it" and then after suddenly she says to reintroduce herself(the second tape where she says "hello can you hear me") the message changes to "oh yeah theres a way to kill it, finish collecting the tapes" Its why the "good ending" where you follow those instructions is when Vanessa gets locked in the mind prison. I personally think "remember Jeremy" in this instance is a threat, ensuring obedience. After all Vanessa, you remember what happened to Jeremy when he tried to resist, dont you? Especially since the achievement for remember Jeremy is gotten by taking a voodoo doll from GLITCHTRAP'S hand. Love the theory, cant wait for part 2, have a nice day
@@skeletaltrees Plus given the fact that Glitchtrap may be code of the mimic injected with William Afton's code... the idea that it used it's voice to trick someone makes even more sense.
I think it wouldn't be far off to think that the "Remember Jeremy" is either a threat or a "I have to finish it before other people will get hurt like he did" mindset from Vanessa. I also had the thought of why Glitchtrap is the one giving out the dolls to collect, but doesn't quite fit I think but just something to chew on. It's Glitchtraps hand after all, but we don't play as Vanessa, which would've made a bit more sense, since you "remember Jeremy" or rather have that phrase as your mindset to finish Glitchtrap, but also Glitchtrap giving you the dolls, a hand that reminds you every time who was the one behind what happened to Jeremy. But we seemingly don't play as her. And I'm not sure if it's even possible to solve who that Jeremy is yet. It's more about the identity of Cassie's dad for now, than anything else. Also having 3 different Jeremy's, pseudonym for another person or not is not helping given that we barely get any additional information to solve more than a handful mysteries in every new game but raising ten more in the process.
Remember Jeremy could very well be the opposite threat! Like WHAT ARE YOU DOING collecting these memories!? Remember Jeremy? The one that got killed for getting too close to the glitch?
@@Hdx64 Except that it didn't specify he died. Only that he hurt himself given that he was covered in an inky substance and looked at tape girl. He was still alive. HW2 also has cut dialogue that seems to suggest you are Jeremy. As they 'kept you alive.' The 1st game told you to remember him, the second is reminding you so that you know he's Jeremy. I also believe that the Halloween Mask on the floor wasn't the mask to chip you. He had the VR Mask on after all, he was playing a game. Given that, I think what was on the floor was the Toy Bonnie mask found in this game. Which suggests that Jeremy is the Bonnie Bro from the BIte of 83. You could even take it a step further in saying that Jeremy might have worked as a security guard in his early years. He may have been a Jeremy Fitzpatrick which quit after he witnessed the Bite of 87.
I think Candy Cadet's 2nd story is related to this. It talks about someone being lured in by a friendly voice, nearly destroyed, and escaping with a horrible scar. Then fast forward a few years where they come back for revenge only to be tricked by a young boy and completely devoured by the "witch". It matches up with game dev Jeremy pretty well. We know Glitchtrap partly possessed him but he sliced off part of his own face in order to escape before he was completely taken over. He was alive, standing, and talking the last we heard from him so he doubtlessly survived. It makes sense that a game dev would get a new position as a technician, perhaps Gregory/GGY or Vanny lured him back in with the job offer to get him fully under Glitchtrap's control, this time. HW2 insinuates this is Cassie's dad ("you look like you have kids" "the key is familiar to you" "last human employee") and possibly also Bonnie Bro, Michael's childhood friend (the bonnie mask, the MCI references, the 'memories', Old Man Consequences). If Jeremy DID know Michael, the Aftons, and witnessed the MCI that could explain how he was able to recognize Glitchtrap as a threat when Vanessa and Tape Girl didn't until it was too late and why Glitchtrap, with all it's data on William Afton, is so focused on him. That could be "what makes [him] so special"
I want to point out that in reality it was the puppet who allowed the souls to inhabit the suits. We know this from the "Give Gifts Give Life" Minigame from FNAF 2. For Charlotte to have dowe so however, especially seeing that the minigame itself shows all the animatronics being present in the room, all of the initial children from the Missing Children Incident would have to have been already dead. Looking at it from that perspective could be an explanation as to why she would be the last victim among the core 6 victims.
Absolutely, at least one kid has to disappear in order to force FazEnt to develop the security technology we see on Security Puppet, the anim that Charlie possesed
Personal opinion: Jeremy night guard was the first person to notice the weirdness around Freddy's (similar to us, the audience, combing over every detail in the games) reporting that to management, like we see Dev Jeremy do and like that Jeremy, however management is William and has to be silenced in order for William to continue
FNAF is a whole other animal, I freakin love these detective videos. Great work. The next step should be figuring out how Fall Fest ties all of this together
Fall Fest happened in 1983 which was the year of the original MCI, Crying Child's, and Charlotte's deaths. It's the year William Afton chose to become a killer, the beginning of the hauntings, and the year that fundamentally changed Michael and led him on a lifelong journey of repentance. If the theories are right that HW2's protagonist, Cassie's dad, game dev Jeremy, and Michael's childhood friend Bonnie Bro are all the same person, then 1983 was HIS origin story, as well.
There’s also a theory that’s been flying around for a while that Jeremy, the beta tester/dev is actually Cassie’s dad, I’m not going to explain it, but you should watch some videos on it. (Edit) only part I’m going to explain is the line “what makes you so special” form fnaf hw2
@@WhyIsThereAMoth1 i know all of this already. i'm just saying for it to be true it either has to be two different jeremy's OR the jeremy who is dead and on the gravestone, which idkk
@@Golden-berry Nah. I am thinking he is Cassie’s father. He survived his encounter with Glitchtrap, but it scarred him. He has leaves Cassie behind for a time. And ends up possessing the Mask Bot. Tragic I know, but the story comes full circle
@@PhoenixMerlyn69 i dont think he possess only the mask bot, why would he possess a mask bot, i think he possess the entire system including mxes because he is the only character that is trying to protect cassie from the vanni mask and tries to make her take it off. Idk if im right
Summary: The last games are all connected to the name Jeremy and Bonnie. We have three Jeremy’s, the MCI one, Jeremy Fitzgerald, and the Silver Parasol Beta Tester. The three of them are connected to injuries on the head area. The MCI one, who possesses Bonnie, lost his animatronic face in Fnaf 2. Jeremy Fitzgerald, who is the Fnaf 2 guard, is suspected to be the victim of the Bite Of 87’, in which he lost his frontal lobe. The Beta Tester cut his face off because of Glitchtrap’s mind control. These three are all connected somehow. In HW2, in which we are suspected to play as Cassie’s father, we find a Bonnie mask and find it familiar. In this case there are various options. 1. Cassie’s dad is the Bonnie Bully from Fnaf 4, which is why he found familiar Bonnie’s mask. Also, maybe he could be Jeremy Fitzgerald. Remember the Phone Guy explicitly says he survived. We could even say that Jeremy Fitzgerald is also MCI Jeremy’s father. So now he’s Jeremy Jr. This could also explain why does Jeremy Guard stay working at Freddy’s although the animatronics want to k1ll him. He wants clues to solve his son’s disappearance. Jeremy Beta Tester’s case would just be an in-universe coincidence. 2. After the UCN the MCI children are born again with the same names and MCI Jeremy, now as an adult, being Jeremy Beta Tester, would end just like Withered Bonnie because why not. (the second one is a joke)
Jeremy is Cassie’s father and the Bonnie masked kid who is also Help Wanted 1 Jeremy and the story about the girl and the witch i think its talking about Jeremy If he got bit in the frontal lobe as a security guard it would explain why the player of PQ4 says the Bonnie mask looks familiar cus it was his mask and the part where Candy Cadet says something like the witch did something to the girl and then she leaves but comes back as an adult i think that’s supposed to be Glitchtrap tried to take over his mind he sliced his face off and it failed so in help wanted 2 Jeremy comes back to destroy the Mimic gets clapped and turned into the maskbot and now he has to watch as his child falls into the same rabbit hole as he did
Amazing theory. I've always thought remember Jeremy was something glitchtrap Told anyone he took over to scare them because (at least of Vanessa) Known Jeremy died because of him.
although we used to consider the puppet/charlie being the first to die in the original games, it could also make sense if the puppet were last with all the new information. i know a lot of people say she couldn't be last, because how did she "give life" to the others, but, technically, if she were last, possessed the puppet, and then "gave life" to the other bodies she found, it'd still make sense right? i would love to hear what other people think about this though, or help explain if i am misunderstanding something
I think that's what the books were setting up. There was a story about a boy dying and be stuck, unaware he was dead until his spirit could find his body and remember his death. Once he did that, he was able to choose whether he stayed or moved on. The MCI kids could have been stuck, not aware of why people weren't talking to them, until Charlie's death. Charlie's body wasn't hidden like the other's were, it was just left in the alley. So she KNEW she was dead and who killed her. She probably led the MCI ghosts to their bodies where they were hidden in the suits and helped them remember their deaths but they were too angry and traumatized to move on, so they all stayed to try and stop their killer. Since HW2 seems to say Charlie died last, we may FINALLY have a motive for her murder. Crying Child died because of Henry's Fredbear suit malfunctioned. He was probably trying to get back at his business partner by killing HIS kid and he left her body in an obvious spot because he wanted Henry to KNOW his daughter was dead.
What if Bonnie is not Jeremy? Like we got the missing children and one of them is Jeremy, who is posseses as Bonnie. But in Fnaf 2, we all know that Jeremy was also a nightguard. This would made Fnaf fans goes with this confusion. Which is why I thought that Boonie might not be Jeremy as we expected to be...maybe the next Fnaf game, we will sure see if Bonnie is Jeremy or not.
I don't think that Thumper from the Bambi movie is what Steel Wool is trying to refer to. The word Thumper has a few meanings, but two stood out that I believe would be relevant; One definition is "A big fish, a lie, or whopper" and the other is electrician slang for "A device used to locate faults in cables underground." Hope this helps!
I thought i remember the phrase "Remember Jeremy" appear on a post it note somewhere in Security Breach, like in one of the offices (not in the post it room)
In FNAF2 Withered Bonnie is missing his "mask". In Curse of Dreadbear we are shown the 3D version/model of the Masks the bullies wore in FNAF4. In Princess Quest the Bonnie grave stone is missing a number for the order. Mystic Hippo asks if we remember our name; in the FNAF logbook there is evidence that spirits forget their name. The person we play as in HW2 is killed by staff bots outside of AR in the old Pizza Place; the same place where the spirits of the dead do not pass on into the next life, but stay there... Forever and ever.
@@adambaryliuk3393 There is a cut scene where we see the protaginist get attacked by the Nightmare-decorated Staff Bots. We also keep jumping around in time between the Pre and Post ruin version of the pizzaplex, which implies there are large time skips or that the Player is somehow not experiencing the normal progressive flow of time. It's never directly said, so in theory it is totally possible the writers could later change their minds by directly stating the opposite but all arrows currently point to the PC being Cassie's father, but in Ruin Cassie refers to / mutters about her father no being around/available.
theory-someone coded remember Jeremy into the game. To remind whoever were playing as what the headset does to you. that’s why there the only human left because everyone else got corrupted by the vanni mask and now are the staff bots.
I think if Jeremy Fitzgerald is Cassies dad, it would basically fill out everything. Aside from like... why the mimic blames Jeremy for the fall fest fire but...thats beside the point. Would even pitentially explain the toys as being the Mimic 2.0's
Other Jeremy's include: a Jeremiah in Frights #11 and Frailty, Comedy bots Aruba line and some of Ruin's graffiti. Missing Child Jeremy possessed Withered Bonnie with no face, Fitzgerald is the presumed Bite of 87 victim, and HW tesster chopped his face. I imagine this what led to ooftroop's line of "Bonnie, possessed by little Jeremy Fitzgerald, was merely a prophecy of more face trauma to come for that bloodline." Yet using 4's Bonnie mask kid for 2's guard, and now it's coming true... I guess it really was Undeniably Canon. And of course, the Mike ship also linking along to our Glam boys.
There are 2 sets of kids that wear masks. The missing children and "The Bro's" and given Scotts affinity for naming many characters the same name. How convoluted would it be if both MCI Jeremy (who wears a Bonnie mask) and Bonnie Bro (bully involved in the bite of 83' incident) are not the same. But I do think Bonnie Bro is who we play. Obviously the MCI Jeremy is dead, he died as a kid. But our character is an adult, who is hinted to have kids (Cassie), who remembers the bite of 1983, entering that code gives you the Bonnie puppet. But that makes it all the more confusing because the puppets are used as representations of the dead kids.
This video was mainly focused on Help Wanted 1, not 2. We most likely do play as Cassie's dad in Help Wanted 2, though. However, from what I've stated before, the Bonnie bully is more likely Cassie's grandfather than straight-up father due to him being in his early 60s at least. If he was around 13 in 1983 and we go to Security Breach in 2030, yes, that's the year the game takes place in, that would add 47 years to his age, putting him more in the range of Grandfather territory. The odds of him being her father are much lower because of this.
@@loganbrony130 ok.... New wild theory, Perhaps Jeremy from Help Wanted 1 is Bonnie Bros son Jeremy Jr... Want a crazier theory because I always thought Jeremy liked Tape Girl (Vannessa) maybe they did get together and had Cassie. There's no real evidence to support that, but it's a fun tangent.
@@loganbrony130 I'm not in any way saying your wrong, that actually makes a lot of sense. I just wanted to poke fun at the wild places this franchise takes us. Like we'll be trying to solve something like who we play as, and the game hits us with doesn't matter you're already dead, and are probably possibly a robot, or this is taking place in an eternal hell of our own making.
You're right about some of this stuff. William Afton is now in his own eternal punishment. Jeremy could be Cassie's father, but I don't think Vanessa's the mother. She seems to be one of those rarer women who doesn't want to have kids. Plus, she is definitely not tape girl. For starters, we know Help Wanted 1 is where Glitchtrap took control of Vanessa, meaning she's the one we play as. The actual tape girl, however, could indeed be Cassie's mother. This does make sense.
In a series with spirits, possessed murder robots, walking corpses, and the most convoluted story, somehow the idea that you even COULD cut off your face with those paper slicers seems the most far-fetched to me
Princess game order is also disproved just by looking at the confirmed years of the kids however what if the order is from which kid moved on first to last kid moving on? It would link in with the scene of creating a small memorial style thing at the kids graves.
I made a video regarding the 3 Jeremys in fnaf as well, but I didnt mention the “remember Jeremy” phrase. I think it is a message to the players to remember Jeremy from fnaf 2, because he is the same Jeremy from HW.
Stupid thought, Cassie's Dad is Bonny mask bully, who is Jeremy(the Security guard turned Technician).This would help a lot of things fit especially with the friendship with the Aftons. It may even explain how Cassie knows Gregory.(Vanessa and the Technician introduces them after SB but before Ruin) as my own personal theory is if you make it to the elevator in Ruin its not Greg but Mimic who drops the elevator.(realistically why would Gregory help her navigate the labyrinth of tunnels to the elevator so she can escape just to drop the elevator and leave her for dead. More people knowing = more evidence) the Question for me is could Gregory kill? We have seen him do some pretty horrific stuff to sentient robots, shoot Freddy in the eyes with a Fazzer blaster and hear the "Why Though!" of pain in Glamrock Freddy. but could he merc a person??? MatPat Of Game Theory Must know lol
@@wild180 duh i watched the video, how does ur comment make sense there def are not 3 jeremy's in the franchise, he said there were 3 times jeremy was brought up 😂 no way you thought there were 3 different ppl named the same thing 😂
@@267BR he literally said there were 3 Jeremy's lol (dead kid grave, fitzgerald, hw) ain't all the same, a dead kid can't work a night shift or play test a vr game
Here's my theory for Princess quest in Help Wanted 2 I think the graves are showing William's victims in reverse Charlie, Cassidy, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz and Susie Chica saying she was the first could mean she was the first to get stuffed or the first one to get posessed
The problem here is Charlie, Charlie posessed the Puppet kind of by herself without the need of being stuffed (I mean.. she wouldnt fit anyway-.. Like, you know she laid down next to the puppet? I think that Charlie posessed the Puppet almost immediately.
why would it be in reverse, and then having it mean who was stuffed first? why wouldnt it just be what it shows us; the order of their deaths? one of these just feels way more purposeful than the other
While you can see things like “Remember Jimmy” in Security Breach, it’s irrelevant for this video. The answer is still the same, and the explanation for Jeremy’s connection with Bonnie is still the same in the next video. I didn’t include moments like that because they are one-off moments that don’t add anything positive or negative. If “Remember Jimmy” is meant to be “Remember Jeremy”, then the occurrences of these are explained by the next video. If it’s not, then it’s just a nod by the developers to the original “Remember Jeremy” statement. Including it in this video wouldn’t add anything either way. I do appreciate you looking out for those moments though!
I dont understand why people think Jeremy (#3) cut off his face. It's certainly a possibility, but the very first thing we see when someone else is glitchtrapped (not a word, I know) Vanny makes a mask, using crafts. (Could easily use the same things mentioned in the tapes. Guillotine paper cutter, ink. and you couldn't have a mask and a headset on at the same time.)
Things I think would be cool for fnaf in the future. 1. A 2d animated series for adults/young adults and teens that combines lore elements from the games, books and movies. 2. A graphic novel version of tales from the pizzaplex. 3. A fnaf game about psychological horror. 4. A sequel to ultimate custom night. 5. A fnaf game about ghost hunters and paranormal investigators. 6. New 8 bit minigames with hidden lore. 7. Fnaf webcomics with lore. 8. A spin off game about the fazbear frights book series. 9. A fnaf game about damaged animatronic amalgamations trying to escape to the outside world. 10. Warning: this idea is personally my favorite but allot of people will probably disagree. A game that’s set in a newly built version of the fazbear frights horror attraction now called the ultra horrorplex, and the star attraction is none other than William Afton himself in a new trap form, but instead of being a threat (whether by choice or perhaps by memory loss) decides to aid the protagonist and try to take down fazbear entertainment llc. Extras: a game about the rival businesses of fazbear entertainment llc. A fnaf game about mrs afton or Henry Emily and their whereabouts throughout fnaf. A fnaf game about William aftons past/childhood.
I think jeremy from fnaf 2 is the same as hw. Here’s why, So first let’s get a few dates for a quick timeline that will become increasingly relevant. Assuming Jeremy is mikes friend and is about the same age let’s say 16 and we know fnaf 2 is in 1987, and HW is between 2023-2029 Jeremy is 58 years old. But wait what about the bite? Jeremy survived as phone guy mentions it’s impressive that the human body can survive without the frontal lobe. Remember Jeremy links to Tape girl mentioning him cutting his face of and his job termination. I believe it’s whoever was the first tester of help wanted 2 trying to say that glitchtrap took Jeremy too and to be wary of what he she does.
ID's fantasy did attempted to solve the "remember Jeremy" by claiming the HW2 protagist (probably cassie's dad) is named Jeremy. While I disagree with her, she did bring up paralells to vanny and suggested that HW2 protagist was vanny for a time. With the useage of "remeber jeremy" in this video, it all seems to connect.
In fnaf 2 there was a night watchman named Jeremy who is the same name as the child who owns Bonnie and who is Cassie's father's favorite animatronic, he had worn Bonnie's mask in 1983. So the night watchman of fnaf 2 under the pseudonym Jeremy is Cassie's father
I think the player of help wanted 2 is Micheals Bonnie buddy / Jeremy Fitzgerald after he had seen the horrors of the bite of 83 he had become the fnaf 2 nightgaurd he in the future had a a daughter named Cassidy but he went missing he was missing because of the vanny vr mask when he completed princess quest 4 he saw a bonny mask that said remember Jeremy because he was wearing the Bonnie mask in the bite of 83
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember some of the promotional things on Scottgames having a conversation between two Circus Baby rental’s technicians bringing up a Jeremy in conversation. Then again I could be misremembering
What if SG and DEV Jeremy are the same person? There are theories about bonnie guy from fnaf 4 being Cassie dad. It’ll also match with the lost luggage badge
I don't think anyone has said this but I believe that at the end of princess quest and you gain the bonnie mask saying "this looks familiar", I think this is the mask Cassidy dad wore while helping Michael kill the crying child, which puts in stone that we are playing as Cassidy's father. My Theory is that Jeremy is the crying Childs name and for some reason we are trying to get him to remember what he did to him.
I’ve come to really like the idea that the Crying child is the one named Jeremy not Bonnie necessarily. There are 6 tombstones in total, the five up front and the one way back. The writing on the one in the distance is too small and blurry, and the one on the far right is covered by grass. It’s kinda generally accepted that the placement of the tombstones is purposefully placed in the same spot as each animatronics head. Gabriel is Freddy, Fritz is Foxy, Susie is Chica, and so Jeremy wouldn’t be Bonnie, he’d be golden Fred Bear along with the tombstone off in the distance. Bonnie’s head is on the far left like the one covered by grass. Golden Freddy/Fred Bear is albeit further back than the other heads, it’s stile placed in between Chica and Bonnie. So the one off in the distance is clearly Cassidy/the vengeful Spirit, so then why cover Bonnie’s name? Perhaps for the sake of Misdirection? Or they wanted to reveal it later or didn’t feel it necessary. If CC was named Jeremy it would also explain why Micheal would make that one of his aliases, to honor his brother. The player in HW2 is theorized and very obviously the father of Cassie and the Bonnie Mask wearing kid in FNAF 4, the Achievement reads “Remember Jeremy?” With a question mark, and there’s no coma. The achievement is practically asking “do you remember that kid you helped accidentally kill”
I might be reading between the lines, but I'm curious if the phrase isn't a statement but a suggestion. I'm just thinking of if the achievement "Remember Jeremy?" is meant to be phrased "Remember, Jeremy?", instead of asking us if we remember Jeremy, it's implying that we are this Jeremy and asking if we remember "it" now. I know it's a tinfoil hat theory, if it was meant like that then they would've put the comma in, but I just wanted to speak my mind.
Good Question! I’m saying Poppet, as in a small doll often used for witchcraft, as these specific puppets seen in Help Wanted 2 resemble the design and concept of a Poppet!
First of all cool theory:) but in Help wanted 2 the "remember jeremy" frase has a "?" in the end. This one is more like the devs asking the player "hey, do you remember jeremy?" What does it mean??? Maybe vanessa didnt remember jeremy in some of her actions and someone saw her doing it? idk tho do you guys have any ideas?
Before I even watch the video, he might say it during this but I almost shit my pants. What if the reason Bonnie gets destroyed is because the Jeremy wore his mask when the crying child was killed. Then, if potentially helpy is the mimic as it’s seemingly implied in the helo wanted 2, what if he’s actually a repaint of the old psychic friend Fred bear that the crying child had. So, the mimic has memory of seeing the crying child bitten while these characters watched on. If I’m not wrong, Jeremy was one of the kids carrying him to the spring lock Freddy. So there could be a resent built up and the mimic decided to destroy Bonnie. And then the company covered up that one of their animatronics was capable of destroying another. I could absolutely be 100% wrong which I probably am so don’t take a word i say as a coherent thought.
Sorry but the order of the MCI kids deaths is Charlie, Chica (Susie), Bonnie (Jeremy), Freddy (Gabriel), Foxy (Fritz) and Cassidy as Golden Freddy. We know this for a fact because we clearly see both Chica and Bonnie possessed in the FNAF 2 cutscenes and in Help Wanted when we see Glitchtrap luring us we see Chica and Bonnie in front of us. Plus the Balloons puzzle in Security Breach has a purple 2 (representing Bonnie), a red 4 (representing Foxy) and a golden 5 (obviously representing Golden Freddy). What's more interesting is that there is a zero which can repersent Charlie as she is strongly implied to be the one to start William's murder spree, a.k.a patient *zero*. That leaves only Freddy and Chica left and since we know Chica died first that means Freddy (Gabriel) is the 3rd victim.
@@therainygamer2454 i like the idea that you have it makes the most sense. i just hate that jeremy is a name on one of the gravestones. it doesn't make sense
So I got theory to go nowhere: What if kid with bunny mask was named Jeremy? The same person got to meet the man behind the slaughter in backrooms :} And then Billy Afton, took that name [that got all around local newspapers] and applied it for his fake name ... And then it's the wall. It's highly recommend to us that bunny mask BOY {Krato's voice} survived
It's a decent theory but doesn't make sense. Carnie says "you look like you got kids!" How would a dead child have kids? There's a theory that makes more sense. Jeremy is the boy from the bite of the crying child, who wore a Bonnie mask which is why there's so much Bonnie things as is the mask that says this looks familiar. Then there's a theory he felt bad so he became to SG. Then even more, he's cassies father. Why would he be uploaded to a security bot giving a mask to Cassie if it was just some random ass dead kid?
I don't remember Thumper being called the young prince ? I DO remember Bambi being referred to that in the straight to DVD sequel though because he was the son of the largest stag in the area that was called The Prince of the forest. Sorry, that was the only detail that threw me off because I watched Bambi so many times as a kid and I'm pretty sure Thumper wasn't called a prince at any point 😭
I think Jeremy is Bonny bro who watch the crying child die then later became the developer and him being security breach ruin girls dad explains why she talks past tense about him because he disappeared and she never says he died or he moved or he left
simple is jeremy is connected to bonnie and bonnie is connected to the bite of 83 incident i would think we are playing as bonnie bro and bonnie bro is trying to remember the person that he killed the crying child aka jeremy but at the same time we would need to look deeper to see if this is accurate
Good question! This theory was popular a little while back, but the full phrase coming back in Help Wanted 2 seems to negate this theory. If it was telling Jeremy to remember something, then it wouldn’t make sense for this phrase to be telling multiple different people the same thing. Having it both in Help Wanted, and Help Wanted 2 would be very strange if Jeremy was meant to be the one remembering.
Jeremy is Cassie’s day the story about the witch in help wanted 2 refers to Jeremy escaping glitch trap then. Later returning to the pizza plex to try and destroy him and he ends up dying and getting his soul trapped in the vanny network and we play as his soul in help wanted 2 remember Jeremy? Is a question it’s trying to tell us to remember him cause he’s important he is Cassie’s dad
Both endings of the game are cannon the first one is you being taken over by glitch trap being locked in a room and using you to give Cassie the mask to ensure the mimic escapes then ending 2 The princess guide you through the darkness just like the boy in the witch story and you finally destroy glitch trap
![FNAF Help Wanted 2 Unused Content & Out of Bounds Secrets | LOST BITS [TetraBitGaming]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PLjGtW3L1KY/mqdefault.jpg)
Keep watch for the next video because we're going to continue this idea, not only finishing the connection between Jeremy and Bonnie, but also fully solving Princess Quest and PQ4 along the way!
Also, there is a post it in Security Breach that says "Remember Jimmy", but it's not important for this theory. If this is meant to be "Remember Jeremy" then it's place in Security Breach is explained by the next video, but if this is not meant to be "Remember Jeremy" then it's simply a nod by SteelWool to that original phrase.
Thank you all for watching! Let me know what you think of this theory, and if you have any information to further prove or disprove it! It is still a theory so it can always be disproven later when we learn more information!
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Jeremy Fitzgerald A Fnaf garud who was the securty gard in fnaf 2 in fnaf 2 we play as Jeremy Fitzgerald
Jeremy (MCI) is Jeremy (dev) and Jeremy is Cassie's dad
Security Breach also had the codename "Quarters", not just fnaf9.
Also the common theory is that Fritz Smith is Michael, not Jeremy.
Didn't the birthday cake we put into freddy's stomach hatch in HW2 have writing that said "Happy Birthday Jimmy!" or something? Or maybe it was Timmy, i can't remember.
"Jeremy the play-tester played as Jeremy the nightgaurd and saw withered bonnie possessed by Jeremy"
- A Wise Man
Honestly, you're not wrong
1:40 I think the theory was that _Fritz Smith_ was a pseudonym for Michael Afton due to multiple possible connections, rather than _Jeremy Fitzgerald_ who’s seemingly confirmed to be a separate character in the logbook, since he writes about being moved the the Dayshift and something “following him home.”
Willn't it make more sense for Flitz Schmit to be Phone Guy? Phone Guy did got stuffed in the Freddy suit and it's someone Jeramy knows of but that's just a Theory lol.
@@breathair69420 That’s something a thought of as well, but Fritz Smith is fired on his first day of the job, but Phone Guy comes back in FNAF 1.
Just thought of something here.
· The kid possessing Foxy is named _Fritz,_ which we can connect to Fritz Smith.
· Fritz Smith is not only fired for the same reasons as Mike Schmidt from the first game, but shares a last name (kinda). The surname _Schmidt_ is the German form of the English surname _Smith._
· Mike Schmidt shares his first name with Michael Afton, and we know Michael Afton worked at a _Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza_ location at some point (for free pizza vouchers, apparently).
· Finally, Michael Afton, as a child, wore a mask of Foxy. And like I mentioned previously, Foxy is possessed by a kid named _Fritz._ It’s like a loop.
Maybe the Foxy kid was named Fritz to help make this connection. IDK, but it’s an interesting theory.
Also, it’s interesting how the three main Jeremys have some sort of head/face trauma/injury. Jeremy (the MCI kid) as Withered Bonnie loses his face. Jeremy Fitzgerald is theorized as and possibly the Bite of ‘87 victim. And the Jeremy from Help Wanted…seems to have sliced his face off.
Heh, maybe the Crying Child is named Jeremy…I’m joking, it’s a joke.
@@kkplushproductions just wanna say that it has been pointed out that michael being fritz does require him to be fired as well. just wanted to let you know
This.
This might be just not important, but Security breach also has a Jeremy mention twice. First mention is there is a sticky note that says "Remember Jeremy" in one of the workshop areas. The second one is Comedy bot mentions a boy name Jeremy getting abandoned at the pizzaplex.
If we assume that Jeremy was also Mike's friend with the Bonnie mask, then that seems to imply that William targeted a kid named Jeremy to stuff into the Bonnie animatronic as symbolic revenge for getting his son killed.
Also it might be related to stuffing a kid into Foxy before Bonnie since (apart from Susie who was probably more an experiment in his killing method) Mike wore a Foxy mask, so William would also resent that association, probably even more since it was his own son's bullying that got CC killed.
And if the theory is right that Michael Afton was using the pseudonym Fritz Smith while hunting his father, well, Fritz was the name of the child stuffed into Foxy. It seems like both William and Michael's every action revolved around what happened in 1983. William in revenge and Michael in repentance.
@@Momo_Minomomike can be Fritz smith cause the timeline wouldn’t work if he 13 or 14 in 83 he would 17 to 18 which would probably not big enough for him to work night shifts and is still be recognized by employers as the co owners son
@@freedomwriter9688 He'd definitely be young, but I actually have a family member who was doing night security at 18 so it's not impossible. As for the employees recognizing him as their employer's son I think you're underestimating how big Fazbear Entertainment was. They're a huge multi-million dollar corporation and judging by the layout, the Freddy's Michael grew up near isn't the FNAF 2 location. It's heavily implied William Afton was disguised as the day guard so if they didn't recognize one of the company founders I doubt they'd know Michael.
The restaurant was also short staffed since Afton doing a runner after killing more kids had them shuffling around staff to fill the vacant space at the same time they'd clearly been showed their current security was insufficient. They needed more security staff urgently and I doubt many people were applying with the scandal of missing children tied to it. Fritz Smith only worked one night before being fired for the exact same reasons Mike was in FNAF 1 so I think it's plausible it was him.
That kid: WHAT DID I DO???
William: You have the same name as my sons friend
One small nitpick towards the end, the final tape that tells you how to "kill" glitchtrap/Mimic1 doesn't work because its not by Tape Girl, its by Glitchtrap/Mimic1. You can tell because her original message is "dont collect the tapes, this is all i can do to stop it" and then after suddenly she says to reintroduce herself(the second tape where she says "hello can you hear me") the message changes to "oh yeah theres a way to kill it, finish collecting the tapes"
Its why the "good ending" where you follow those instructions is when Vanessa gets locked in the mind prison.
I personally think "remember Jeremy" in this instance is a threat, ensuring obedience. After all Vanessa, you remember what happened to Jeremy when he tried to resist, dont you?
Especially since the achievement for remember Jeremy is gotten by taking a voodoo doll from GLITCHTRAP'S hand.
Love the theory, cant wait for part 2, have a nice day
the biggest supporting evidence for that is that her saying “hello can you hear me” is echoed by glitchtrap, just pitched down
@@skeletaltrees Plus given the fact that Glitchtrap may be code of the mimic injected with William Afton's code... the idea that it used it's voice to trick someone makes even more sense.
I think it wouldn't be far off to think that the "Remember Jeremy" is either a threat or a "I have to finish it before other people will get hurt like he did" mindset from Vanessa.
I also had the thought of why Glitchtrap is the one giving out the dolls to collect, but doesn't quite fit I think but just something to chew on. It's Glitchtraps hand after all, but we don't play as Vanessa, which would've made a bit more sense, since you "remember Jeremy" or rather have that phrase as your mindset to finish Glitchtrap, but also Glitchtrap giving you the dolls, a hand that reminds you every time who was the one behind what happened to Jeremy.
But we seemingly don't play as her. And I'm not sure if it's even possible to solve who that Jeremy is yet. It's more about the identity of Cassie's dad for now, than anything else. Also having 3 different Jeremy's, pseudonym for another person or not is not helping given that we barely get any additional information to solve more than a handful mysteries in every new game but raising ten more in the process.
Remember Jeremy could very well be the opposite threat! Like WHAT ARE YOU DOING collecting these memories!? Remember Jeremy? The one that got killed for getting too close to the glitch?
@@Hdx64 Except that it didn't specify he died. Only that he hurt himself given that he was covered in an inky substance and looked at tape girl. He was still alive.
HW2 also has cut dialogue that seems to suggest you are Jeremy. As they 'kept you alive.' The 1st game told you to remember him, the second is reminding you so that you know he's Jeremy.
I also believe that the Halloween Mask on the floor wasn't the mask to chip you. He had the VR Mask on after all, he was playing a game. Given that, I think what was on the floor was the Toy Bonnie mask found in this game. Which suggests that Jeremy is the Bonnie Bro from the BIte of 83.
You could even take it a step further in saying that Jeremy might have worked as a security guard in his early years. He may have been a Jeremy Fitzpatrick which quit after he witnessed the Bite of 87.
I think Candy Cadet's 2nd story is related to this. It talks about someone being lured in by a friendly voice, nearly destroyed, and escaping with a horrible scar. Then fast forward a few years where they come back for revenge only to be tricked by a young boy and completely devoured by the "witch". It matches up with game dev Jeremy pretty well. We know Glitchtrap partly possessed him but he sliced off part of his own face in order to escape before he was completely taken over. He was alive, standing, and talking the last we heard from him so he doubtlessly survived. It makes sense that a game dev would get a new position as a technician, perhaps Gregory/GGY or Vanny lured him back in with the job offer to get him fully under Glitchtrap's control, this time.
HW2 insinuates this is Cassie's dad ("you look like you have kids" "the key is familiar to you" "last human employee") and possibly also Bonnie Bro, Michael's childhood friend (the bonnie mask, the MCI references, the 'memories', Old Man Consequences). If Jeremy DID know Michael, the Aftons, and witnessed the MCI that could explain how he was able to recognize Glitchtrap as a threat when Vanessa and Tape Girl didn't until it was too late and why Glitchtrap, with all it's data on William Afton, is so focused on him. That could be "what makes [him] so special"
"remember Jeremy?" in the achievement imo is more of a question to the Jeremy it's like "do you remember, Jeremy?" idk
I want to point out that in reality it was the puppet who allowed the souls to inhabit the suits. We know this from the "Give Gifts Give Life" Minigame from FNAF 2. For Charlotte to have dowe so however, especially seeing that the minigame itself shows all the animatronics being present in the room, all of the initial children from the Missing Children Incident would have to have been already dead. Looking at it from that perspective could be an explanation as to why she would be the last victim among the core 6 victims.
Absolutely, at least one kid has to disappear in order to force FazEnt to develop the security technology we see on Security Puppet, the anim that Charlie possesed
Personal opinion: Jeremy night guard was the first person to notice the weirdness around Freddy's (similar to us, the audience, combing over every detail in the games) reporting that to management, like we see Dev Jeremy do and like that Jeremy, however management is William and has to be silenced in order for William to continue
FNAF is a whole other animal, I freakin love these detective videos. Great work. The next step should be figuring out how Fall Fest ties all of this together
Fall Fest happened in 1983 which was the year of the original MCI, Crying Child's, and Charlotte's deaths. It's the year William Afton chose to become a killer, the beginning of the hauntings, and the year that fundamentally changed Michael and led him on a lifelong journey of repentance. If the theories are right that HW2's protagonist, Cassie's dad, game dev Jeremy, and Michael's childhood friend Bonnie Bro are all the same person, then 1983 was HIS origin story, as well.
There’s also a theory that’s been flying around for a while that Jeremy, the beta tester/dev is actually Cassie’s dad, I’m not going to explain it, but you should watch some videos on it. (Edit) only part I’m going to explain is the line “what makes you so special” form fnaf hw2
how does that work if one of the tombstones literally has jeremy in it like what?
@@267BR what? Just watch the videos, I’ll tell you tomorrow
@@WhyIsThereAMoth1 i know all of this already. i'm just saying for it to be true it either has to be two different jeremy's OR the jeremy who is dead and on the gravestone, which idkk
@@267BR I literally said the game Dev one
I mean he cut his face at the end so
Thumper isn’t the Young prince, Bambi is the Prince and that’s his Best friend not a mentor 😂. But I get what he was trying to do
I don’t think Jeremy is dead. He just sliced out a specific part of his face to get rid of the mimic
I'm thinking he possessed glamrock Freddy or glamrock Bonnie.
@@Golden-berry Nah. I am thinking he is Cassie’s father. He survived his encounter with Glitchtrap, but it scarred him. He has leaves Cassie behind for a time. And ends up possessing the Mask Bot. Tragic I know, but the story comes full circle
@@PhoenixMerlyn69 i dont think he possess only the mask bot, why would he possess a mask bot, i think he possess the entire system including mxes because he is the only character that is trying to protect cassie from the vanni mask and tries to make her take it off. Idk if im right
@@sweetpoison4228 Maybe. All of this is speculation after all.
Agreed. The last we hear of dev Jeremy he was standing under his own power and able to speak. That doesn't sound like a dying man.
Bet is Cassie’s dad because of how there was a collectible in ruin that said “Bonnie was my dad’s favorite”
Summary:
The last games are all connected to the name Jeremy and Bonnie.
We have three Jeremy’s, the MCI one, Jeremy Fitzgerald, and the Silver Parasol Beta Tester.
The three of them are connected to injuries on the head area.
The MCI one, who possesses Bonnie, lost his animatronic face in Fnaf 2.
Jeremy Fitzgerald, who is the Fnaf 2 guard, is suspected to be the victim of the Bite Of 87’, in which he lost his frontal lobe.
The Beta Tester cut his face off because of Glitchtrap’s mind control.
These three are all connected somehow.
In HW2, in which we are suspected to play as Cassie’s father, we find a Bonnie mask and find it familiar.
In this case there are various options.
1. Cassie’s dad is the Bonnie Bully from Fnaf 4, which is why he found familiar Bonnie’s mask. Also, maybe he could be Jeremy Fitzgerald. Remember the Phone Guy explicitly says he survived. We could even say that Jeremy Fitzgerald is also MCI Jeremy’s father. So now he’s Jeremy Jr. This could also explain why does Jeremy Guard stay working at Freddy’s although the animatronics want to k1ll him. He wants clues to solve his son’s disappearance. Jeremy Beta Tester’s case would just be an in-universe coincidence.
2. After the UCN the MCI children are born again with the same names and MCI Jeremy, now as an adult, being Jeremy Beta Tester, would end just like Withered Bonnie because why not. (the second one is a joke)
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You're reading it wrong.
You're supposed to read it as "pppft remember jeremy? Yeah some crazy stuff happened to that guy."
Jeremy is Cassie’s father and the Bonnie masked kid who is also Help Wanted 1 Jeremy and the story about the girl and the witch i think its talking about Jeremy
If he got bit in the frontal lobe as a security guard it would explain why the player of PQ4 says the Bonnie mask looks familiar cus it was his mask and the part where Candy Cadet says something like the witch did something to the girl and then she leaves but comes back as an adult i think that’s supposed to be Glitchtrap tried to take over his mind he sliced his face off and it failed so in help wanted 2 Jeremy comes back to destroy the Mimic gets clapped and turned into the maskbot and now he has to watch as his child falls into the same rabbit hole as he did
Not my theory btw RyeToast came up with it i just thought it was cool
Amazing theory. I've always thought remember Jeremy was something glitchtrap Told anyone he took over to scare them because (at least of Vanessa) Known Jeremy died because of him.
although we used to consider the puppet/charlie being the first to die in the original games, it could also make sense if the puppet were last with all the new information. i know a lot of people say she couldn't be last, because how did she "give life" to the others, but, technically, if she were last, possessed the puppet, and then "gave life" to the other bodies she found, it'd still make sense right? i would love to hear what other people think about this though, or help explain if i am misunderstanding something
I think that's what the books were setting up. There was a story about a boy dying and be stuck, unaware he was dead until his spirit could find his body and remember his death. Once he did that, he was able to choose whether he stayed or moved on. The MCI kids could have been stuck, not aware of why people weren't talking to them, until Charlie's death. Charlie's body wasn't hidden like the other's were, it was just left in the alley. So she KNEW she was dead and who killed her. She probably led the MCI ghosts to their bodies where they were hidden in the suits and helped them remember their deaths but they were too angry and traumatized to move on, so they all stayed to try and stop their killer.
Since HW2 seems to say Charlie died last, we may FINALLY have a motive for her murder. Crying Child died because of Henry's Fredbear suit malfunctioned. He was probably trying to get back at his business partner by killing HIS kid and he left her body in an obvious spot because he wanted Henry to KNOW his daughter was dead.
Nah
What if Bonnie is not Jeremy? Like we got the missing children and one of them is Jeremy, who is posseses as Bonnie. But in Fnaf 2, we all know that Jeremy was also a nightguard. This would made Fnaf fans goes with this confusion. Which is why I thought that Boonie might not be Jeremy as we expected to be...maybe the next Fnaf game, we will sure see if Bonnie is Jeremy or not.
I don't think that Thumper from the Bambi movie is what Steel Wool is trying to refer to. The word Thumper has a few meanings, but two stood out that I believe would be relevant; One definition is "A big fish, a lie, or whopper" and the other is electrician slang for "A device used to locate faults in cables underground." Hope this helps!
If jeremy died, wouldn't it mean he ended up as remenant? And became a part of the ai / game?
I thought i remember the phrase "Remember Jeremy" appear on a post it note somewhere in Security Breach, like in one of the offices (not in the post it room)
Keep up the good work! i know u put a lot of time and effort into these!! thank you so much for this amazing content man. ❤
Thank you so much!! I love hearing positive feedback because it makes the weeks of research worth it!!
@@RemGamesU were spot on with everything that i was thinking abt hw2, i know ur next video will be ur peak 💯
In FNAF2 Withered Bonnie is missing his "mask". In Curse of Dreadbear we are shown the 3D version/model of the Masks the bullies wore in FNAF4. In Princess Quest the Bonnie grave stone is missing a number for the order. Mystic Hippo asks if we remember our name; in the FNAF logbook there is evidence that spirits forget their name. The person we play as in HW2 is killed by staff bots outside of AR in the old Pizza Place; the same place where the spirits of the dead do not pass on into the next life, but stay there... Forever and ever.
How do we know the person we play as in HW2 is dead?
@@adambaryliuk3393 There is a cut scene where we see the protaginist get attacked by the Nightmare-decorated Staff Bots. We also keep jumping around in time between the Pre and Post ruin version of the pizzaplex, which implies there are large time skips or that the Player is somehow not experiencing the normal progressive flow of time.
It's never directly said, so in theory it is totally possible the writers could later change their minds by directly stating the opposite but all arrows currently point to the PC being Cassie's father, but in Ruin Cassie refers to / mutters about her father no being around/available.
@@porcelainchips6061 Ah, thanks.
This theory makes tons of sense, but I did have one thing to mention:
You do know that Vanny is more white than gray, right?
The whole thumper point is kind of shoehorned in.
Can you explain that a little different, please?
Imagine if later Scott/Steel Wool give an information that Jeremy Fritzgerald or Jeremy HW possess Glamrock Bonnie-
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theory-someone coded remember Jeremy into the game. To remind whoever were playing as what the headset does to you. that’s why there the only human left because everyone else got corrupted by the vanni mask and now are the staff bots.
I think if Jeremy Fitzgerald is Cassies dad, it would basically fill out everything. Aside from like... why the mimic blames Jeremy for the fall fest fire but...thats beside the point.
Would even pitentially explain the toys as being the Mimic 2.0's
Other Jeremy's include: a Jeremiah in Frights #11 and Frailty, Comedy bots Aruba line and some of Ruin's graffiti.
Missing Child Jeremy possessed Withered Bonnie with no face, Fitzgerald is the presumed Bite of 87 victim, and HW tesster chopped his face. I imagine this what led to ooftroop's line of "Bonnie, possessed by little Jeremy Fitzgerald, was merely a prophecy of more face trauma to come for that bloodline."
Yet using 4's Bonnie mask kid for 2's guard, and now it's coming true... I guess it really was Undeniably Canon.
And of course, the Mike ship also linking along to our Glam boys.
1:27 “three Jeremys” there’s definitely more than three…
He changed the vr headset to the meta quest 3
I may have lost the original headset image I used in the Ruin Theories...
There are 2 sets of kids that wear masks. The missing children and "The Bro's" and given Scotts affinity for naming many characters the same name. How convoluted would it be if both MCI Jeremy (who wears a Bonnie mask) and Bonnie Bro (bully involved in the bite of 83' incident) are not the same. But I do think Bonnie Bro is who we play. Obviously the MCI Jeremy is dead, he died as a kid. But our character is an adult, who is hinted to have kids (Cassie), who remembers the bite of 1983, entering that code gives you the Bonnie puppet. But that makes it all the more confusing because the puppets are used as representations of the dead kids.
This video was mainly focused on Help Wanted 1, not 2. We most likely do play as Cassie's dad in Help Wanted 2, though. However, from what I've stated before, the Bonnie bully is more likely Cassie's grandfather than straight-up father due to him being in his early 60s at least. If he was around 13 in 1983 and we go to Security Breach in 2030, yes, that's the year the game takes place in, that would add 47 years to his age, putting him more in the range of Grandfather territory. The odds of him being her father are much lower because of this.
@@loganbrony130 ok.... New wild theory, Perhaps Jeremy from Help Wanted 1 is Bonnie Bros son Jeremy Jr... Want a crazier theory because I always thought Jeremy liked Tape Girl (Vannessa) maybe they did get together and had Cassie. There's no real evidence to support that, but it's a fun tangent.
@@loganbrony130 I'm not in any way saying your wrong, that actually makes a lot of sense. I just wanted to poke fun at the wild places this franchise takes us. Like we'll be trying to solve something like who we play as, and the game hits us with doesn't matter you're already dead, and are probably possibly a robot, or this is taking place in an eternal hell of our own making.
You're right about some of this stuff. William Afton is now in his own eternal punishment. Jeremy could be Cassie's father, but I don't think Vanessa's the mother. She seems to be one of those rarer women who doesn't want to have kids. Plus, she is definitely not tape girl. For starters, we know Help Wanted 1 is where Glitchtrap took control of Vanessa, meaning she's the one we play as. The actual tape girl, however, could indeed be Cassie's mother. This does make sense.
@@loganbrony130 I was making a joke about Cassie's mother, but I'd be so proud of myself if I guessed it right by accident.
i watched about 5 seconds and went "wait, I HAVEN'T WATCHED SOMEONE PLAY HELP WANTED 2, PAUSE PAUSE!" 😂😂
Uh…… Bambi is the prince. Thumper and Flower are just the friends he plays with.
That’s all. Carry on.
I honestly can’t wait to see what game comes after help wanted 2.
10:21 but wait wasn’t there something about Jeremy in security breach? It was on the whiteboard or something
Wow Scott is obsessed with the name jeremy😂
He does this a lot with names. Cassidy and Cassie, for example. It's just to confuse.
In a series with spirits, possessed murder robots, walking corpses, and the most convoluted story, somehow the idea that you even COULD cut off your face with those paper slicers seems the most far-fetched to me
Princess game order is also disproved just by looking at the confirmed years of the kids however what if the order is from which kid moved on first to last kid moving on? It would link in with the scene of creating a small memorial style thing at the kids graves.
I made a video regarding the 3 Jeremys in fnaf as well, but I didnt mention the “remember Jeremy” phrase. I think it is a message to the players to remember Jeremy from fnaf 2, because he is the same Jeremy from HW.
Stupid thought, Cassie's Dad is Bonny mask bully, who is Jeremy(the Security guard turned Technician).This would help a lot of things fit especially with the friendship with the Aftons. It may even explain how Cassie knows Gregory.(Vanessa and the Technician introduces them after SB but before Ruin) as my own personal theory is if you make it to the elevator in Ruin its not Greg but Mimic who drops the elevator.(realistically why would Gregory help her navigate the labyrinth of tunnels to the elevator so she can escape just to drop the elevator and leave her for dead. More people knowing = more evidence)
the Question for me is could Gregory kill? We have seen him do some pretty horrific stuff to sentient robots, shoot Freddy in the eyes with a Fazzer blaster and hear the "Why Though!" of pain in Glamrock Freddy. but could he merc a person??? MatPat Of Game Theory Must know lol
i like this theory but it doesn't work because jeremy is a name on one of the tombstones
@@267BRdid you watch the video? There's 3 Jeremy's. What does the dead kid one matter
@@267BR i mean map bot ending is a thing so this Jeremy could be dead too... So 2 dead Jeremy vs the Jeremys 3 is also a thing lmao
@@wild180 duh i watched the video, how does ur comment make sense there def are not 3 jeremy's in the franchise, he said there were 3 times jeremy was brought up 😂 no way you thought there were 3 different ppl named the same thing 😂
@@267BR he literally said there were 3 Jeremy's lol (dead kid grave, fitzgerald, hw) ain't all the same, a dead kid can't work a night shift or play test a vr game
Here's my theory for Princess quest in Help Wanted 2
I think the graves are showing William's victims in reverse
Charlie, Cassidy, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz and Susie
Chica saying she was the first could mean she was the first to get stuffed or the first one to get posessed
The problem here is Charlie, Charlie posessed the Puppet kind of by herself without the need of being stuffed (I mean.. she wouldnt fit anyway-.. Like, you know she laid down next to the puppet? I think that Charlie posessed the Puppet almost immediately.
why would it be in reverse, and then having it mean who was stuffed first? why wouldnt it just be what it shows us; the order of their deaths? one of these just feels way more purposeful than the other
Well... you have wrong informations, line "remeber Jeremy" can be also found in Security breach and even in ruin.
While you can see things like “Remember Jimmy” in Security Breach, it’s irrelevant for this video. The answer is still the same, and the explanation for Jeremy’s connection with Bonnie is still the same in the next video. I didn’t include moments like that because they are one-off moments that don’t add anything positive or negative. If “Remember Jimmy” is meant to be “Remember Jeremy”, then the occurrences of these are explained by the next video. If it’s not, then it’s just a nod by the developers to the original “Remember Jeremy” statement. Including it in this video wouldn’t add anything either way. I do appreciate you looking out for those moments though!
I dont understand why people think Jeremy (#3) cut off his face. It's certainly a possibility, but the very first thing we see when someone else is glitchtrapped (not a word, I know) Vanny makes a mask, using crafts. (Could easily use the same things mentioned in the tapes. Guillotine paper cutter, ink. and you couldn't have a mask and a headset on at the same time.)
Things I think would be cool for fnaf in the future.
1. A 2d animated series for adults/young adults and teens that combines lore elements from the games, books and movies.
2. A graphic novel version of tales from the pizzaplex.
3. A fnaf game about psychological horror.
4. A sequel to ultimate custom night.
5. A fnaf game about ghost hunters and paranormal investigators.
6. New 8 bit minigames with hidden lore.
7. Fnaf webcomics with lore.
8. A spin off game about the fazbear frights book series.
9. A fnaf game about damaged animatronic amalgamations trying to escape to the outside world.
10. Warning: this idea is personally my favorite but allot of people will probably disagree. A game that’s set in a newly built version of the fazbear frights horror attraction now called the ultra horrorplex, and the star attraction is none other than William Afton himself in a new trap form, but instead of being a threat (whether by choice or perhaps by memory loss) decides to aid the protagonist and try to take down fazbear entertainment llc.
Extras: a game about the rival businesses of fazbear entertainment llc. A fnaf game about mrs afton or Henry Emily and their whereabouts throughout fnaf. A fnaf game about William aftons past/childhood.
Remember Jeremy was in fnaf world
I think jeremy from fnaf 2 is the same as hw. Here’s why,
So first let’s get a few dates for a quick timeline that will become increasingly relevant. Assuming Jeremy is mikes friend and is about the same age let’s say 16 and we know fnaf 2 is in 1987, and HW is between 2023-2029 Jeremy is 58 years old. But wait what about the bite? Jeremy survived as phone guy mentions it’s impressive that the human body can survive without the frontal lobe. Remember Jeremy links to Tape girl mentioning him cutting his face of and his job termination. I believe it’s whoever was the first tester of help wanted 2 trying to say that glitchtrap took Jeremy too and to be wary of what he she does.
Aww we getting spoiled today
You ain’t seen nothing yet! The next video will be EVEN BIGGER!
@@RemGames ohh yhhhh
ID's fantasy did attempted to solve the "remember Jeremy" by claiming the HW2 protagist (probably cassie's dad) is named Jeremy. While I disagree with her, she did bring up paralells to vanny and suggested that HW2 protagist was vanny for a time. With the useage of "remeber jeremy" in this video, it all seems to connect.
What if all the bullies that murdered the crying child were the missing children's siblings
Bro forgot the friend of Michael in fnaf 4 who wears a Bonnie mask💀💀
In fnaf 2 there was a night watchman named Jeremy who is the same name as the child who owns Bonnie and who is Cassie's father's favorite animatronic, he had worn Bonnie's mask in 1983. So the night watchman of fnaf 2 under the pseudonym Jeremy is Cassie's father
I think the Bonnie mask is related to the bully from fnaf 4
What if Jeremy is Cassie's Dad...
I think the player of help wanted 2 is Micheals Bonnie buddy / Jeremy Fitzgerald after he had seen the horrors of the bite of 83 he had become the fnaf 2 nightgaurd he in the future had a a daughter named Cassidy but he went missing he was missing because of the vanny vr mask when he completed princess quest 4 he saw a bonny mask that said remember Jeremy because he was wearing the Bonnie mask in the bite of 83
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember some of the promotional things on Scottgames having a conversation between two Circus Baby rental’s technicians bringing up a Jeremy in conversation.
Then again I could be misremembering
What if SG and DEV Jeremy are the same person? There are theories about bonnie guy from fnaf 4 being Cassie dad. It’ll also match with the lost luggage badge
Golden Freddy has two souls in him so you need to remember the crying child was first to be killed in a franchise and Cassidy
It's the hw dev considering the vanny mask most likely is belonging to vannessa so most likely it's reference to vannessa towards her memory of Jeremy
Just a heads-up: Thumper wasn't the "Young Prince", that was Bambi himself.
Thank you I thought nobody else noticed!!!
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I don't think anyone has said this but I believe that at the end of princess quest and you gain the bonnie mask saying "this looks familiar", I think this is the mask Cassidy dad wore while helping Michael kill the crying child, which puts in stone that we are playing as Cassidy's father. My Theory is that Jeremy is the crying Childs name and for some reason we are trying to get him to remember what he did to him.
Please make more DHMIS theories!
I will! We’ve got a few ideas cooking up and we’ll be releasing them in the near future!
I’ve come to really like the idea that the Crying child is the one named Jeremy not Bonnie necessarily. There are 6 tombstones in total, the five up front and the one way back. The writing on the one in the distance is too small and blurry, and the one on the far right is covered by grass. It’s kinda generally accepted that the placement of the tombstones is purposefully placed in the same spot as each animatronics head. Gabriel is Freddy, Fritz is Foxy, Susie is Chica, and so Jeremy wouldn’t be Bonnie, he’d be golden Fred Bear along with the tombstone off in the distance. Bonnie’s head is on the far left like the one covered by grass. Golden Freddy/Fred Bear is albeit further back than the other heads, it’s stile placed in between Chica and Bonnie. So the one off in the distance is clearly Cassidy/the vengeful Spirit, so then why cover Bonnie’s name? Perhaps for the sake of Misdirection? Or they wanted to reveal it later or didn’t feel it necessary. If CC was named Jeremy it would also explain why Micheal would make that one of his aliases, to honor his brother. The player in HW2 is theorized and very obviously the father of Cassie and the Bonnie Mask wearing kid in FNAF 4, the Achievement reads “Remember Jeremy?” With a question mark, and there’s no coma. The achievement is practically asking “do you remember that kid you helped accidentally kill”
Maybe we are Jeremy and we’re trying to remember who we are? In Wich I mean maybe we’re his soul in the game :/
JEREMY IS UNDERRATED AS HELL 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I mean except the possessing withered Bonnie part but that’s it
I might be reading between the lines, but I'm curious if the phrase isn't a statement but a suggestion. I'm just thinking of if the achievement "Remember Jeremy?" is meant to be phrased "Remember, Jeremy?", instead of asking us if we remember Jeremy, it's implying that we are this Jeremy and asking if we remember "it" now.
I know it's a tinfoil hat theory, if it was meant like that then they would've put the comma in, but I just wanted to speak my mind.
Are you saying pop-it or pup-it for the world puppet?
Good Question! I’m saying Poppet, as in a small doll often used for witchcraft, as these specific puppets seen in Help Wanted 2 resemble the design and concept of a Poppet!
Ah ok the reasoning makes sense thanks for that keep up the great work!!! Found your channel with the DHMIS content been loving the vids since!!
First of all cool theory:) but in Help wanted 2 the "remember jeremy" frase has a "?" in the end. This one is more like the devs asking the player "hey, do you remember jeremy?" What does it mean??? Maybe vanessa didnt remember jeremy in some of her actions and someone saw her doing it? idk tho do you guys have any ideas?
The question is probably just referring to the fans. Do **you** remember jeremy?
Small TH-cam theorist that deserves more. Hope you go big!
Thank you so much!! I hope I can present these theories to even more people!
7:36 can you run the balloon thing by me again? I don tunderstand how you get freddy, gfreddy and puppet
Lesson learned: NEVER, EVERR name your child *Jeremy*
What if Cassie's dad was also named Jeremey?
Before I even watch the video, he might say it during this but I almost shit my pants. What if the reason Bonnie gets destroyed is because the Jeremy wore his mask when the crying child was killed. Then, if potentially helpy is the mimic as it’s seemingly implied in the helo wanted 2, what if he’s actually a repaint of the old psychic friend Fred bear that the crying child had. So, the mimic has memory of seeing the crying child bitten while these characters watched on. If I’m not wrong, Jeremy was one of the kids carrying him to the spring lock Freddy. So there could be a resent built up and the mimic decided to destroy Bonnie. And then the company covered up that one of their animatronics was capable of destroying another. I could absolutely be 100% wrong which I probably am so don’t take a word i say as a coherent thought.
Remember the fourth closet?
Child Jeremy
Teen Jeremy(Dev)
Adult Jeremy(SG)
Toddler Jeremy(Not sure)
Sorry but the order of the MCI kids deaths is Charlie, Chica (Susie), Bonnie (Jeremy), Freddy (Gabriel), Foxy (Fritz) and Cassidy as Golden Freddy. We know this for a fact because we clearly see both Chica and Bonnie possessed in the FNAF 2 cutscenes and in Help Wanted when we see Glitchtrap luring us we see Chica and Bonnie in front of us.
Plus the Balloons puzzle in Security Breach has a purple 2 (representing Bonnie), a red 4 (representing Foxy) and a golden 5 (obviously representing Golden Freddy). What's more interesting is that there is a zero which can repersent Charlie as she is strongly implied to be the one to start William's murder spree, a.k.a patient *zero*. That leaves only Freddy and Chica left and since we know Chica died first that means Freddy (Gabriel) is the 3rd victim.
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The 2 5 and 4 thing with the balloons is something else entirely, MatPat made a vid talking bout them
@@DrakunaiTsB and he can be wrong, he literally said he had no idea what they can be and the colours mean something unlike the other puzzles
All wabbits do the thumping, supposedly to communicate with anyone underground
I have a theory.
Remember Jeremy
Could he have been cassys dad from ruin?
how. jeremy is literally a name on one of the tombstones
@@267BR right but who needs to remember Jeremy and why is Jeremy important
@@267BR What is your theory?
@@therainygamer2454 i like the idea that you have it makes the most sense. i just hate that jeremy is a name on one of the gravestones. it doesn't make sense
@@267BR FNAF gotta make it confusing some how 😩
So I got theory to go nowhere:
What if kid with bunny mask was named Jeremy?
The same person got to meet the man behind the slaughter in backrooms :}
And then Billy Afton, took that name [that got all around local newspapers] and applied it for his fake name ...
And then it's the wall.
It's highly recommend to us that bunny mask BOY {Krato's voice} survived
Hm, interesting Theory,
However, couldn’t you simply play as Jeremy in Help Wanted 2?
It's a decent theory but doesn't make sense.
Carnie says "you look like you got kids!" How would a dead child have kids?
There's a theory that makes more sense. Jeremy is the boy from the bite of the crying child, who wore a Bonnie mask which is why there's so much Bonnie things as is the mask that says this looks familiar. Then there's a theory he felt bad so he became to SG. Then even more, he's cassies father. Why would he be uploaded to a security bot giving a mask to Cassie if it was just some random ass dead kid?
I don't remember Thumper being called the young prince ? I DO remember Bambi being referred to that in the straight to DVD sequel though because he was the son of the largest stag in the area that was called The Prince of the forest. Sorry, that was the only detail that threw me off because I watched Bambi so many times as a kid and I'm pretty sure Thumper wasn't called a prince at any point 😭
Maybe cuz i think that the help wanted Jeremy was the bonnie kid from fnaf 4 and that would make sense for the Bonnie mask in princess quest
My guy I'm pretty sure Jeremy was the guy that killed himself trying to escape the Glitchtrap virus in the first Help Wanted
New vid!
Help Wanted 2 Time!... again
I think Jeremy is Bonny bro who watch the crying child die then later became the developer and him being security breach ruin girls dad explains why she talks past tense about him because he disappeared and she never says he died or he moved or he left
simple is jeremy is connected to bonnie and bonnie is connected to the bite of 83 incident i would think we are playing as bonnie bro and bonnie bro is trying to remember the person that he killed the crying child aka jeremy but at the same time we would need to look deeper to see if this is accurate
another good video to watch thx for uploding good content
Thank you for watching! I’m very glad you enjoyed it!!
What if it's Jeremy who is remembering
Good question! This theory was popular a little while back, but the full phrase coming back in Help Wanted 2 seems to negate this theory. If it was telling Jeremy to remember something, then it wouldn’t make sense for this phrase to be telling multiple different people the same thing. Having it both in Help Wanted, and Help Wanted 2 would be very strange if Jeremy was meant to be the one remembering.
if there are any more jeremys then i will scream
You really made a 3 minute topic into 14 minutes.
Me breathing this in for matpat* 😂
Y’all… Ain’t Jeremy the employee we play as on FNAF 2?
Me: *clicks a video*
“Hello Wall-“
Jeremy Fitzgerald The bite of 87 1987 fnaf 2=help wanted 2
I’m probably 100% wrong but…what if Jeremy is the name of the crying child?
Jeremy is Cassie’s day the story about the witch in help wanted 2 refers to Jeremy escaping glitch trap then. Later returning to the pizza plex to try and destroy him and he ends up dying and getting his soul trapped in the vanny network and we play as his soul in help wanted 2 remember Jeremy? Is a question it’s trying to tell us to remember him cause he’s important he is Cassie’s dad
Both endings of the game are cannon the first one is you being taken over by glitch trap being locked in a room and using you to give Cassie the mask to ensure the mimic escapes then ending 2 The princess guide you through the darkness just like the boy in the witch story and you finally destroy glitch trap
Remember Jeremy. (What I thought it meant) I thought it meant Jeremy the fnaf 2 night guard