We Were WRONG About Old Man Consequences! | FNAF Theory

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  • This idea made SO MUCH SENSE when I first read it in the email submission form. And the more I looked into it, the more evidence I uncovered. Five Nights at Freddy's is kinda like that though, the more you dig the more you find. So maybe I've just fully gone crazy, or MAYBE, this was a banger FNAF theory
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Preheating the Oven
    00:45 What do we know about Old Man Consequences?
    04:07 Is the Old Man from Princess Quest OMC?
    10:08 Is Henry Old Man Consequences?
    10:56 What if Michael is Old Man Consequences?
    12:10 What is the sprite of OMC supposed to be?
    13:54 Where is the lake of Old Man Consequences?
    16:07 Who enters and exits the OMC lake?
    16:30 Additional Evidence for Old Man Consequences
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    The style of this video is similar to Fuhnaff, Pastra, FusionZGamer, and uhyeah. A large influence on this channel has been Wendigoon, Game Theory, Markiplier, and Dawko.
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  • @Zammypig1106
    @Zammypig1106 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1840

    Another connection between Mike and OMC (more specifically lakes) might be the Fazbear Frights story Step Closer. A jerk older brother who is associated with Foxy goes fishing at a lake with his dad. He also almost loses his eye to a fishing hook as a “consequence” for bullying his brother and disturbing Foxy. Some more potential evidence!

    • @RECES_REVIEWING
      @RECES_REVIEWING 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

      Oh my gosh, this is an amazing peice of evidence!

    • @i.l0v3_sh4rks
      @i.l0v3_sh4rks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      I LOVE THIS OMG

    • @isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676
      @isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Now this is good rationale!

    • @polybit06
      @polybit06 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      SAME THOUGHTS

    • @Dani-qo9vk
      @Dani-qo9vk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      good observation, noticed that too. There is also another place where a lake is mentioned .In the actual translation of "the bear of vengeance " from ultimate customnights foxy who represents mike and freddy who represents c.c both mention a favorite pond in their dialogues

  • @StrawHatZethy
    @StrawHatZethy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1415

    So old man consequences isn't a Crocodile but Mike as Foxy wearing a fishing hat. Epic.

    • @Mario-kt3cu
      @Mario-kt3cu 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      💀

    • @HayLeesHomeMade
      @HayLeesHomeMade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      I always felt it was a foxy head ngl

    • @soirema
      @soirema 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      💀💀💀 indeed
      If I were Scot i would die of embarasment

    • @puddincakie
      @puddincakie 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      888 likee

  • @valdenay7264
    @valdenay7264 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +715

    Interestingly enough, that would make the Foxy vs Freddy anime clips in UCN make sense as well.
    Vengeful child & Mike fighting over what to do with William

    • @theghostcreator776
      @theghostcreator776 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +102

      HOLY SHIT yeah that does make sense, vengeful spirit wanting Mike to stay out of their way but being unable to
      It would also make sense bc the characterization of Foxy in the cutscene is to give Freddy a punishment for each attempt. Giving Freddy consequences for his actions

    • @c.r.blankenship9040
      @c.r.blankenship9040 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

      @@theghostcreator776 AND there's intentional mistranslations in those sequences too... don't know if it means something but that would be another connection to OMC, or at least to PQ4 "Old Man"

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      you are cooking!

    • @zythe69akaru
      @zythe69akaru 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      These couple comments have really clicked in my brain :O

    • @CharplaysssOffical
      @CharplaysssOffical 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      your telling me that those may be cannon which might the breaking toy chica ones cannon? dear lord

  • @enrike9404
    @enrike9404 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +579

    He really likes the brush 😊 from the beginning

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

      Oh yeah! He loves it

    • @griffysfnafchannel
      @griffysfnafchannel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@RyeToast Butter for Toast: Was the Princess Cassidy or did a retcon occur removing this concept from the games?

  • @CodeOmega0
    @CodeOmega0 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +513

    "You are won." is DEFINITELY a double entendre for 'You are one' before saying 'and YOU remain'. It feels like if the Princess is actually Golden Freddy, OMC might be saying how only one spirit remains in that body. (After the fire or Happiest Day? My mental timeline is borked.)

    • @abiutheartist
      @abiutheartist 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Maybe you’re on to something

    • @firewings9954
      @firewings9954 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      "You are won" means "You have won" PQ3.

    • @happyclown4331
      @happyclown4331 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Man I'm loving the take on these lines. For me, I kind of see it as a potential mocking, but inevitable message ..."You are won" ( like by a prescence, or thing, or concept "owning you", and fighting over a type of 'prize)'. It's almost like there's something more behind the scenes, hinting at what is to come or currently occuring alongside the developing story/narrative. Like a fight has occured, yet you still are there, alive and aware (Player iin Princess Quest?), waiting for your next movement and action, almost as if to start a domino reaction, to "change the past" by understanding it and forming long lasting lessons, that allow horrors to co-exist as we find steps to help those and ourselves around us. By first, trudging through the depths and amalgamates that bind us together in the 'sinking crab bucket' that can be life.

  • @zacks.5991
    @zacks.5991 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +618

    The "Mike Consequences" pun is interesting, because I believe I discovered a similar instance. (I don't know if this has been brought somewhere else.) We have all thought that Emily is a weird last name, but I believe it is for a pun. Charlotte Emily, goes by Charlie in the books. Charlie can be short for Charlotte or Charles. Another nickname for Charles is Chuck.
    Charlie Emily -> Chuck E. ... Cheese.
    Edit: Just realized, the 3 Emily family members are Charlotte Emily (C. E.), Sammy Emily, (S. E.), and Henry Emily (H. E.). Their initials have the letters to spell C. H. E. E. S. E.

    • @abiutheartist
      @abiutheartist 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      That’s so cool

    • @nrudy
      @nrudy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Given that all the various version of Freddy's corporate parent and restaurants mirror the early history of Chuck E Cheese, this is very probable. @zacks.5991 you better email this idea into the podcast.

    • @traumedged
      @traumedged 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      That’s hilarious

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      MIND BLOWN!

    • @Astr0n1ty_M00n
      @Astr0n1ty_M00n 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      That's awesome, literally how has that not been noticed for years? 😂

  • @oakthespringwing3176
    @oakthespringwing3176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +429

    I’ve been headcanoning that Mike was OMC for about 3 years now. I never really expected for there to be actual evidence for it. What a crazy coincidence fyxfjtddghjvddgh

    • @ShesNervous
      @ShesNervous 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      I'm honestly shocked we haven't picked up on this sooner. Why were NONE of us questioning the red crocodile could just be... a fox lol. Way to go you for headcanon. You were ahead of the game.

    • @oakthespringwing3176
      @oakthespringwing3176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @ShesNervous FR! The main reason I headcanoned it was because of the way I characterize Mike when I write him and it would give him an interesting relationship with the Venguful Spirit (no matter who it is aijsjsksksmdkdj) looking back, even the way the jaws look matches up with the foxy sprite, with a large upper jaw and shorter lower jaw (I’m pretty sure the actual model for foxy is the opposite, if only slightly, which is honestly kinda funny to me)

    • @themilkman7921
      @themilkman7921 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Believing something “just cause” or without evidence is not something to brag about

    • @oakthespringwing3176
      @oakthespringwing3176 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @themilkman7921 I’m not bragging…? I’m sorry if my comment made it seem that way. I struggle reading tone over text, and I know it’s not just me. I was merely stating: “Hey, I’ve had this silly idea in my head for years. I’m surprised it actually has something going for it.” Believing something ‘just because’ is the entire point of headcanons. They’re just a silly little ideas that sticks with you. You know they’re not real, but it’s fun to imagine! Hope you have a good day! :D

    • @tamsuskaralius835
      @tamsuskaralius835 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i swear ive seen someone make a video on it in the past few years

  • @morphstarchangeling8024
    @morphstarchangeling8024 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +196

    One thing I always believed with Old Man Consequences is that entering the lake is basically moving on. He says you can't go back once you go too deep because there's no back, you can choose to stay and rest forever or you can move on to the next world which is the afterlife. In FNAF world the drowned ending ends the game properly because you can move on while it crashes the game in ultimate custom night because the vengeful spirit refuses to move on from Afton.

    • @lianaverwood9810
      @lianaverwood9810 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Or it could refer to 'Drowning in Anger', and suggests that the Vengeful Spirit will Never stop Tormenting William, and has lost themselves to their own Anger - Ending the Game as you no longer have Control...

  • @diverwerk
    @diverwerk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +161

    a purple mike fishing would be very fun to see. he’s just hollow with purple skin and he’s like “woah look at that biggen”

    • @Iffem
      @Iffem 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you describing him as hollow just gave me the mental image of him looking like a Hollow from Dark Souls

    • @ember13dp
      @ember13dp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂 I love that image

    • @diverwerk
      @diverwerk 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ember13dp me 2 girly

    • @jameswilliams8555
      @jameswilliams8555 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Mike (because he has a British accent at the end of Sister Location): Bloody hell! That's a right whopper it is!

    • @diverwerk
      @diverwerk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jameswilliams8555 HELP MEEE THATS SO FUNNY😭

  • @SyrupSquid333
    @SyrupSquid333 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I can stop laughing at his seriousness while he brushes his cat who can’t get enough attention 😭

  • @HawkstaBeard
    @HawkstaBeard 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +185

    I kinda just think that Old Man Consequences… is just Old Man Consequences. If Nighmare/Nightmarionne is the giver of death, and the Puppet is the giver of life, then I think that Old Man Consequences is the “Giver” of Purgatory.

    • @Venturror
      @Venturror 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      based take

    • @TheAMVDorf
      @TheAMVDorf 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      But in that example, Charlie would be the giver of life, aka a person in the story of FNAF, as opposed to a being simply made for giving life like you’re suggesting OMC is

    • @jademonass2954
      @jademonass2954 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      thats my interpretation
      hes only there to make sure sould go to rest, nothing else
      not even forcing them, just looking over them

  • @MrWahoo1
    @MrWahoo1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +108

    Everybody focusing on the Theory's but not a Soul has Brought up how happy lil bro is while being Brushed every Upload, he must be a Joy to be around

  • @vamprascare621
    @vamprascare621 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    I like the idea that is Mike in the Old Man Consequences. It would make sense because everyone can hear William Afton in the Minigame screaming for Mike to help him, giving us that hint in UCN, the whole time. And the story about Mike from the Fazbear's Fright trilogy talking a boy going fishing, chewing gum, has a little brother that is told to stay away from Foxy and other Animatronics.

  • @deltarosa
    @deltarosa 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Not to mention the mushroom cave lake appears RED, similar to how the lake is coloured in FW/UCN

  • @inventivefrog8899
    @inventivefrog8899 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Mike could also be wearing the foxy mask since he knows that the spirits associate his face with William.

  • @PureHydro
    @PureHydro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    I thought this was a good episode!! It made me think of those pictures Mike drew in the survival logbook. Where he wants a speed boat and water skis. Also it's funny if OMC is Mike, because OMC also means original main character. Mike used to be main character

    • @user-fg8iv6wm6s
      @user-fg8iv6wm6s 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yoooo you are onto something with OMC one

    • @PureHydro
      @PureHydro 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-fg8iv6wm6s thanks! This is random but I was also thinking Foxy has a hook. Fishing with a hook. Maybe there's something there

  • @robinblack9
    @robinblack9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    HOLY SH***********T I AM SO HONORED !
    Loved the Mikes face overlay *chefs kiss
    You did a great job! You the first fnaf creator to have me doing double takes on the series multiple red lakes

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And tysm for promoting my album 🙏

    • @sumrqndomguy6208
      @sumrqndomguy6208 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@robinblack9 why is bro not pinned lol

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sumrqndomguy6208 lol just happy to be here

  • @TheAmethystWitchGames
    @TheAmethystWitchGames 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +159

    If we assume jrs is where the sink hole that became the FNAF6 location is.. then the Mega Pizzaplex would be built on top.. being that it's the same location from midnight motorist we know that's a large open area of land next to what seems to be a busy major highway so that would make sense to build the Pizza Plex there.

    • @Itsrosslmaoo
      @Itsrosslmaoo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      honestly that makes so much sense too

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      "four games, one story" More like four stories high ...woah...wait

  • @dolxx42
    @dolxx42 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Thats the best theory on old man consequences ive ever seen, it covers so many things and just answers the midnight motorist

  • @StormagedonBOD
    @StormagedonBOD 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    This honestly is the most "yeah this is just lore" moment for me.

  • @ryanspratt4161
    @ryanspratt4161 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +214

    Yoooo okay let’s see what you got

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Hope you liked it!

    • @ryanspratt4161
      @ryanspratt4161 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      @@RyeToast it was awesome! As a weekly FFPP listener, it was epic seeing the callbacks to people’s emails and stuff!

    • @The_lamb_sauce
      @The_lamb_sauce 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      ⁠@@ryanspratt4161my cat disliked your reply for some reason like he pressed his nose on your comment and then pressed his nose on the dislike button of your reply I don’t think my cat agrees or just has a grudge against you

    • @anomalouscatclub
      @anomalouscatclub 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@RyeToast Listening to your theory, could it also be possible that Midnight Motorist is part of Ultimate Custom Night? What if the Orange man is meant to be Henry, and He's just driving home every night from watching over the Ultimate Custom Night Pizzeria. A proper punishment for the one who only watched and waited.

  • @gavinjames645
    @gavinjames645 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Possibilities I think.
    1. Old man consequences is the fnaf universe equivalent of Satan/the devil or the grim reaper, or he’s some kind of ancient entity.
    2. Old man consequences is a creation of Henry Emily to help any spirits move on or find peace that are connected to fnaf world and ultimate custom night.
    3. Old man consequences is some kind of is some kind of guide for the living, the dead and digital.
    4. Old man consequences was someone who Cassidy was familiar with in life at some point.
    5. Old man consequences was someone perhaps William or Henry knew.
    6. The red king is inspired by old man consequences.
    7. The red king is Henry inside princess quest.

    • @Schnirt
      @Schnirt 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I really don't see how he would be the devil

    • @Shadowmouse1277
      @Shadowmouse1277 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      4. C.C

    • @zeldristhecactus1304
      @zeldristhecactus1304 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or 8 and the most weird one being Andrew.

    • @TotallyNotIceOwl
      @TotallyNotIceOwl 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. I thought he was some form of death too.

    • @afekendgrke
      @afekendgrke 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​​​@@Schnirt simple, the 4th layer could be Hell, since FNaF World is a "Sanctuary",The ending UCN can be Cassidy leaving UCN (Hell) to finally rest and leave William with his demons and Eternal Suffering, and also, using Scott's old christian videos, we can see that he made the devil being an Old Man with Red clothes, looking like the Old man from Princess Quest, therefore, being Old Man Consequences.

  • @e3l11zAAA
    @e3l11zAAA 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +125

    1 MINUTE?? THIS IS THE EARLIEST I'VE BEEN...

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      WELCOME IN

    • @e3l11zAAA
      @e3l11zAAA 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@RyeToast I just finished the video, and I gotta say, I loved it! Especially the Michael being OMC, that's pretty wholesome. Can't wait for you next theory!!

    • @elainad6728
      @elainad6728 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      33 min early for me 😅

    • @elinwallmander6317
      @elinwallmander6317 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      20 seconds is the earliest I have ever been

  • @tubulardimitri1105
    @tubulardimitri1105 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    In the fnaf book step closer the Main character may be a Mike parallel, and in the story he goes fishing with his dad, so that could support the Mike=omc theory.

  • @Harveywolf17
    @Harveywolf17 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    His cat loves him making videos it gets a groom everytime 😂 Such a good dude for his cat. Its actually quite sweet

  • @TangleHamain
    @TangleHamain 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    15:55 Another connection: *BOTH LAKES ARE RED!!!*

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The cave and the lake falling animation could indeed be a link.
    maybe the restaurant being underground could also be caused by a MASSIVE sinkhole.

  • @leonard8452
    @leonard8452 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You convinced me especially because it solves midnight motorist in a satisfying way

  • @LeoPerkk
    @LeoPerkk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great theory Rye. You are one of my favorite FNaF content creators but there is just one aspect of this video that I cannot overlook:
    You should get one of those cat brushes that have like a button to push the back end of the brush closer to the "teeth", so it accumulates less fur. It seems like a pain to remove all that fur from the brush you were using.

  • @zastager4484
    @zastager4484 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Ive never stopped to think how old mike is at this point, damn

    • @c.r.blankenship9040
      @c.r.blankenship9040 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Really depends on when you think FnaF 3 and Pizza Sim take place. I personally subscribe to the theory that FnaF 3 is in 2015, so assuming Mike is at the youngest 13 or 14 in FnaF 4 minigames that would have him born somewhere between 1969 (nice) or 1970, which would make him ~18 in 1987 and ~46 in FnaF3.
      And if 2015 is true then it means that the earlier dates for Security Breach (such as 2029) are entirely viable, meaning that if Cassie's dad is indeed the Bonnie bully, and the Bonnie bully is the same age as Mike, then Cassie would need to be born in 2017 at the earliest, meaning that her dad would only have had to be 48 when she was born, which isn't all that weird

  • @DraconianBS
    @DraconianBS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    This is gonna go crazy I already know! I always like new perspectives on "established" things.

  • @artist_aleah
    @artist_aleah 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The OMC Sprite in relation to Mike’s Foxy mask was *chef’s kiss*! GTLive needs to react to this, cause it’s a good ass theory!

  • @-rolyat44
    @-rolyat44 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Immediate thought without searching for evidence: crying child's body was dumped in the lake. I will not explain further but think about it.

  • @533hornet
    @533hornet 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It fits together sooooo cleanly. Like i was convinced so easily that im almost suspicious, because lets be honest when does Scott let it be this easy.

    • @avy244
      @avy244 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It doesnt fit cleany its a branch that works together cleanly until you dont get to the main root and try to fit it. Then it doesnt work

  • @melthompson6535
    @melthompson6535 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The voice acting for OMC was 10/10!

  • @asheueland462
    @asheueland462 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow I love the way you write your theory videos, I feel like I put the pieces together with you and it's really clear which points you're trying to make, I find even the og boy matpat struggles to walk me through it in the same way. No hate to him just a comparison, I think the chill vibes help me digest the information better aswell, also the way Marq was looking at you while you were brushing him 😭

  • @Sentrid
    @Sentrid 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    personally i don't think it's anyone. these are good points, i like how connected everything is visually, but i think he's a representation. not any real person speaking through old man consequences, but just a character to say it's the end of the road. FNaF World was supposed to be the last game, tying the lore with the key to the FNaF 3 mini games and a final game for Scott to leave. Old Man Consequences was there to say, "This is it. No more FNaF." It isn't until you (the player/fredbear) drowns in a lake and falls forever in void and obscurity, and once you stop touching the keyboard, that it dies. And you see scott with his children, bonding in front of the TV. Same for UCN in my eyes. He's a character telling whoever fredbear is (whether it be Cassidy or FNaF) that it's the end. You die and it crashes. Finally the end of FNaF for Scott. That's my headcannon but i do really like the idea of it being Mike talking to Cassidy, all theories are valid tbh

    • @shui804
      @shui804 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Same, I get that this series is all about connections between characters and all of that but it's very clear OMC whole lake is meant to be the end for whether it be spirits or as you said the franchise as a whole. The reason it IS the lake could be because of the people FNaF World and UCN are based around, aka cc and William Afton hence forth he show's up at the lake naer their house.

  • @wakaitsu
    @wakaitsu 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Also name would make sense in that regard too. Old Man Consequences. Like, consequences of what? Player going too deep into the code? And this character that was clearly not born from the program, just decided to stay in the area nosy players end up in to poke fun of them? Yeah, sure.
    But in Old Mike case that "consequences" part makes perfect sense - him being there is the consequence of his actions as a kid bully. His entire existence is the direct consequence of his actions. Therefore it makes sense to call his older self that - "I am an Old Man made by Consequences of my younger self actions"

    • @robinblack9
      @robinblack9 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👏 👏 👏

  • @garfieif8187
    @garfieif8187 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Something about his sprite unnerves me. It taps into some weird, early childhood anxiety I would get from playing the Atari game, Frostbite.
    Great character. I love him.

  • @plasticupkake
    @plasticupkake 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    another bit of evidence: the OMC sprite's mouth looks very similar to mike's after hes scooped

  • @haruu9093
    @haruu9093 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love that you talked about the cave in Security Breach. I haven't seen people talk about that weird cave that had waters and stuff in it

  • @willwispagaming8144
    @willwispagaming8144 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I believe michael is old man consequence because he lets his brother rest going in the lake the image of three people is elizabeth michael and cc michael also tries to get the vengful spirit to rest but the game crashes meaning either it worked or omc was shut out

  • @CEOofBdubs
    @CEOofBdubs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is an incredible theory! These are the kind of new ideas and perspective we need, and this would be an amazing way for Mikes influence to remain in the series without lazily saying “guys guess what he didn’t actually die in the FNAF 6 fire!”

  • @wenzley
    @wenzley 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I found it questionable at first, but I was convinced by the end. Theories tend to be more believable when all games are tied into it instead of just Security Breach/Ruin.

  • @FidgetTyme
    @FidgetTyme 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always enjoy the various theories popping up these days. That's gonna be a nice one to relook at everything through with that outlook. Keep up the good work and I'mma see about hopping in another stream sometime and saying hi. Been a bit and didn't realize this much time has passed since I last did.

  • @Shadowwarrior2288
    @Shadowwarrior2288 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    New subscriber. I was curious about the episode topic but the brushing the kitty and being so cute is what got me 😂

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Welcome in!

    • @Shadowwarrior2288
      @Shadowwarrior2288 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @RyeToast thank you glad youtubes algorithm recommended you!

  • @airitindeparrotin6018
    @airitindeparrotin6018 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Personally been thinking fnaf world shouldn't be ignored. Its not canon, but the ideas inside it are clearly ones that Scot was contemplating. I can absolutely see them using the glitching up and down as a very interesting explanation for what is happening in the newest saga. I find it odd that the Pizza Plex was shown being built INSIDE a game that fully acknowledged it was a game. If Cassy was trapped layers below in the AR, her father going in after her makes sense or vice versa. Glitching down into the game within a game within a game. The books suggest this is something on their minds, waking up from the VR world only to find out you never actually left.
    Im excited to see if they are headed this direction. I think it would be neat to see FNAF World be the key to the new era.
    Regardless, I'm along for the ride.

    • @mohmdbak3062
      @mohmdbak3062 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      It is canon tho, Scott never said it isn't he said that he regrets trying to tie it to the lore too much,

    • @elinwallmander6317
      @elinwallmander6317 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Damn that is a looooong coment

    • @Xwartu
      @Xwartu 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@elinwallmander6317Not really?

  • @mattgreen7692
    @mattgreen7692 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "I need to record this video but this cat demands a brushing" is such a mood. Every time I try and get some work done at my computer one of my cats inevitably flops down on my mouse or keyboard.

  • @valliemcc8352
    @valliemcc8352 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It always bothered me that nearly everyone assumed OMC was Henry. Like the evidence is so lukewarm but it made the most sense thematically. This evidence however is pretty solid!

  • @omni567
    @omni567 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is all really compelling, but i have to ask:
    If micheal is omc, then why is he in fnaf world? I suppose it depends on when that would take place. It would have to take place shortly before the happiest day minigame, which is probably after pizzeria sim, so i could buy mike having become omc by then.
    Although, if fnaf world doesn't take place at that point and instead is earlier in the timeline, i dont see how that could be him. Maybe it could be some kind of buried memory michael deep underneath everything else in cc's weird spirit memory realm, but if thats the case i feel like thats not how it would act.
    Personally, I'm leaning towards the PS->FNAF World->Happiest Day. Still food for thought though. But i figure this theory is pretty sound all and all

  • @davinasaur73
    @davinasaur73 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This fits too damn well I’m sold

  • @happyclown4331
    @happyclown4331 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This theory goes so hard on the first watch (coupled with the comment section too) man. I'm DIGGING THIS. Its like those railroad connectors as kid we got (Thomas the Tank engine tracks), feeling I get with this theory. Vert satisfying. Keep up the great work!

  • @MonkomediaYT
    @MonkomediaYT 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another thing thats important is the waterfall lake in the cave of ruin is actually red if you look at it, so maybe a hint to the OMC Red lake idk

  • @dreamdr0pdistance
    @dreamdr0pdistance 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i’ve always thought OMC looked like foxy and it wasn’t until this video that i realized that’s not the general consensus

  • @doc3913
    @doc3913 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Came here to watch the newest short stumbled upon a full theory video

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Well come on in!

    • @redbear8536
      @redbear8536 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RyeToasti do not think its mike sadly because in the books when you have no more hate your sprite leave to haven and I don't think mike would think that a sprite would be that vengeance full to hang out to see what happens when the smoke clears I think you would just leave because he had Afton dead to rights person I think old man is neutral god like entity only helps the souls make the right choices

  • @Starsofthegods
    @Starsofthegods 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mike being OMC also makes sense since technically FNAF's story itself was in a way his "consequence", If you believe the CC was the first victim.

  • @uwillbeefound6439
    @uwillbeefound6439 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It would also be tragic but good if you consider the idea that fnaf world is rescuing the crying childs soul - michael is there too, to protect his brothers soul when he strays too far. Its not evidence but its still quite thematic

  • @javiortiz3702
    @javiortiz3702 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that the lake envolves a huge mistery even in new games is so exciting. The drowning ending in fnaf world (with that final photo that no one knows what it is), the fallfest and fnaf 4 house near that lake, fredbear coming from it... For me, it seems that there is a huge mistery envolving that lake that may be solved with a fallfest game, it makes so much sense now. I wish they bring us the final piece of lore.
    Fun fact: In ruin's cave, the water on the ground is red coloured, I think it is on purpose, wdyt?

  • @soufianegamerpro
    @soufianegamerpro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i remember a theory that old man consequences is none other than jeremy fitzgerald
    and his head is actually a man missing his frontal lobe

  • @bellajones2563
    @bellajones2563 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When the idea of Micheal being him was brought up I started tearing up from the idea of the angel figure being Micheal & his two little siblings as him being OMC is his attempt to keep helping & protecting them like he wished he did in life.

  • @ItsNorthernStar
    @ItsNorthernStar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is canon and i refuse to believe otherwise from here on out

  • @Pulsarnix
    @Pulsarnix 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay, I like this. You've convinced me, I'd never have thought of this without the podcast.

  • @EtherealN0ir
    @EtherealN0ir 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think this might be the first theory that I have ever been 100% convinced on, I thought about it when you brought it up during your podcast and I liked the idea of it but with more evidence I am actually fully convinced on this one

  • @p.6928
    @p.6928 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really like this theory, way more than Henry being OMC. Here's hoping other fnaf tubers react/respond to this theory and bring more connections.

  • @toastcrunch3728
    @toastcrunch3728 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think RyeToast might also be old man consequences. I mean... look at that salmon shirt

  • @TheDogeOfSarcasm
    @TheDogeOfSarcasm 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I saw this title and was gonna make a sarcastic joke about the theory being mike is OMC but holy crap that is the actual theory-

  • @Cally_on_paws
    @Cally_on_paws 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another connection to Michael is I think in the drowning ending the 3 figures at the end that seem to be cuddling and/or watching something are Michael, C.C, and Elizabeth, Michael being the taller one in the middle and it's pretty safe to say c.c and Elizabeth are the same hight so they're on either side of him.

  • @dubrasri9723
    @dubrasri9723 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m kinda surprised everyone thought of OMC was a crocodile, I’ve always seen it as a Foxy cause you know the red, the long snout and teeth

  • @jonathansoriano3568
    @jonathansoriano3568 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I stayed for the cat, i haven't played fnaf but i dabble in matpat ramblings

  • @wolfsnooze
    @wolfsnooze 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    haven’t even finished the video but -
    gonna be honest since dual process theory’s video i’ve been thinking SO much about mike as OMC. i really like cassidy as CC, but ALSO as the vengeful spirit. and mike being OMC , telling his little brother he can finally rest is .. sweet, and sad to me
    ive also always seen OMC as a wolf or fox rather than a gator, but i had a big bias towards canines in general so😭

    • @wolfsnooze
      @wolfsnooze 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      (note that i know CC=cassidy=TOYSNHK probably doesn’t hold much water in general it’s just an interpretation i like lol)

  • @nicolasmassimino6292
    @nicolasmassimino6292 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well, you need a fishing HOOK to get the fish... Just like a pirate hook

  • @Vaulir0637
    @Vaulir0637 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Considering Michael had been conversing with the vengeful spirit in the security logbook prior to UCN, it makes sense they have a connection after FNAF6.

    • @shui804
      @shui804 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is no proof to suggest that is the vengeful spirit. Could be Charlie for all we know.

    • @TheAMVDorf
      @TheAMVDorf 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shui804the vengeful spirits name is revealed in that same book

    • @shui804
      @shui804 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TheAMVDorf even that fact can be disproven by the fact we get the combination from the cc, or the altered text ghost while who we assume is the vengeful spirit is the one who asked the question that lead us to get said combination.

  • @salmonroe5608
    @salmonroe5608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I must say, i've always thought that OMC was some kind of foxy like character.
    The colour and the shape just fit.
    The rest of the theory blew my mind but that part i already thoguht x)

  • @pppawel2191
    @pppawel2191 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that fnaf world could get an update is exciting

  • @B3rrr13
    @B3rrr13 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some people got ‘that dog’ in them but Michael got ‘that guilt’ in him, poor guy

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    great theory so far (I'm 8m in so far) but I think you should talk about why you think FNAF World is after FFPS. I think it's MUCH more likely it's Charlie using some entity to set up the Happiest Day, and I think it's implied throughout the game, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on that debate.

  • @smokesparkdragonfly1368
    @smokesparkdragonfly1368 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i am going to be real honest. i havent really kept up with fnaf lore except for a few matpat videos so this video is near incomprehensible to me, but you have a really captivating speaking voice and the pace of the video is phenomenal. I logged on to my computer just to comment on it. Also your cat is very cute

    • @RyeToast
      @RyeToast  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well thank you! And fair, I think HyperDroid's Ultimate FNAF Guide is slated to come out this month if you wanted to jump back in!

    • @smokesparkdragonfly1368
      @smokesparkdragonfly1368 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RyeToast Thanks for telling me, I just might!

  • @epicblack55
    @epicblack55 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Surprised Rye didn’t mention the foxy pirate ship behind the lake where dreadbear comes from. Kind of seals this theory.

  • @jefesusmuel8392
    @jefesusmuel8392 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The idea that mike is the vengeful spirit lines up with the idea that ucn is based off of mike's memories while at the locations as the security guard. who else would fend off the monsters like he does? of course he would want william to experience the things he experienced! He could also be omc, just as another part of himself. a part that wants to let go and move on to the afterlife. i also headcanon that mike is the kid from sit and survive, but that's neither here nor there.

  • @logging_co
    @logging_co 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "can you believe this shit percy poodle?"

  • @filippohl9097
    @filippohl9097 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who the hell thought the crocodile was Henry in the first place?

  • @guts60
    @guts60 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That cat be loving that brush :3

  • @HypnopotamusRex
    @HypnopotamusRex 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only the best lore channels have the host loving on a chonky cat the entire video

  • @MusiciansRule07
    @MusiciansRule07 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    First of all, I LOVE how you engage with the Community and build up not just Theorists at home but Theorists in general. When TH-camrs build each other up and prominent people in Fandoms do so too, it is so much better! It's more fun and it allows for more Nuance to be put in without a big explosion of nonsense first. Well, the nonsense persists but it stays contained to a few bad apples that can be ignored for the majority of the time. Thanks for that. Now, as for the video, I've always thought that OMC was Henry because what he wanted more than anything was for everyone William hurt to rest peacefully and to have the Afterlife that they deserve. William already ruined their Lives. He shouldn't get to ruin their Afterlife, too. Once he realized that Cassidy was doing UCN, at first, he was totally down for it because the more pain, the better for William Afton plus UCN is the sort of justice that everyone he killed and their loved ones deserved. HOWEVER, after a while, he realized that Cassidy was blinded by revenge and spite, delaying William's descent to The Darkest Pits of Hell (UCN is Purgatory in my eyes) and more importantly, adding to Cassidy's pain and ruining her Afterlife. Him manifesting as OMC is his way of saying: "STOP. THIS S.O.B DOESN'T DESERVE ANYMORE OF YOUR ENERGY. YOU DESERVE BETTER. LET GO AND I PROMISE THAT THE DEVIL WILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND MORE. YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND WATCH. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS." Henry just wants not just Charlie but everyone to be Free. UCN is giving William another victory, even as he's ripped to shreds. Today's video has given me a new Theory to roll with because with a couple of details changed, the essay I just typed applies to Mike, too. He wants to atone for what he did to his little brother (Evan, to me...) and make sure that William Afton gets everything he deserves without harming anymore people. So, yeah, you and other Theorists have given me a new perspective. Either Henry or Michael can be OMC. It's cool. I'm happy with that.

  • @caydenreed2235
    @caydenreed2235 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love the content man. idk how your able to focus on grooming your cat, my inattentive ass could barly even speak if i was doing that while trying to talk a complex theory like this.

  • @lacey_moon
    @lacey_moon 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    OKAAAYYYY YOU BAKED W THIS ONE!!!!

  • @Dr.Silly-xl6tz
    @Dr.Silly-xl6tz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This whole video has got me like, “Oh yeah! It’s all coming together.”

  • @docplays23
    @docplays23 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was a bit skeptical about OMC being Michael but after hearing the evidence, I’m convinced

  • @Personian
    @Personian 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The evidence taken from the CODB hub world is actually really solid evidence, I liked this

  • @witheredjr2887
    @witheredjr2887 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hold on I never thought of this I like it there’s a lot of evidence just as much even more than Henry interesting

  • @skorie6180
    @skorie6180 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still think "leave the demon to his demons" is my favourite quote in this franchise ngl

  • @user-eg4lu5kw5z
    @user-eg4lu5kw5z 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    and the lake in ruin and old man is red

  • @Fyre19
    @Fyre19 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im really impressed with the theories BUT IM MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE CAT STAYING ON YOUR LAP

  • @agustinarancio5638
    @agustinarancio5638 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn the "ran off to that place again" gave me chills. Good stuff.

  • @pelkerkes
    @pelkerkes 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    im literally shaking i cannot believe that scott actually INTENDED omc sprite to be foxy's mask

  • @rachelbullock1636
    @rachelbullock1636 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly the most solid FNAF theory I've seen in a long while. Most definitely convinced me!

  • @3rdEyeLenny
    @3rdEyeLenny 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I honestly Love this theory a lot. This is the first Modern Day FNaF Theory that I've actually enjoyed that seems to make sense

  • @connorcunningham6310
    @connorcunningham6310 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally someone else saw it I have always believed the old fart to be Mike and I’m glad someone else saw it to

  • @DelightfulElectricCar
    @DelightfulElectricCar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the details you put into this.

  • @kamiwriterleonardo6345
    @kamiwriterleonardo6345 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So PQ4 Old Man is just Chat GPT trying to impersonate him, got it