Yo! So for the unused voicelines, it looks like it has been just speculation by the community whether it's attributed to Vanny or not and the text strings in the files only refer to it as a "Voice" and not explicitly "Vanny"! Though there is some STRONG evidence to support that notion with the graffiti left around the hub world seemingly being the work of Vanny, her being credited in the game for voicework despite not having any lines throughout the game as well as the "Bring him to me." line VERY likely being for Vanny telling Moon to bring her the Glitchtrap plush in the ending - unfortunately, we don't 100% KNOW FOR CERTAIN whether these truly were for Vanny or not. Apologies for assuming the speculation was fact, despite how likely it may be.
11:35 The "H" below the map is what I believe where the game teleports you during either jump scares or the static screen after a jump scare because I remember randomly seeing a letter "H" in the static after I got jump scares a couple times. At first I thought it was the first letter of a hidden code, but I don't know what it's actual purpose is
i also felt like it mayve been something left over from unreal engine as it looks like something id see when doing stuff in it, its been a while since ive used unreal engine to do anything but you very well could be right about it being where it teleports you during jumpscares or the static screen
When you get jumpscared, it just teleports you down into one of those black spheres where the model in there kills you. I do remember the H static glitch, though. Idk what it could be
My guess about those Vanny voice lines was probably that they felt a lot of it was a little too hand-holding. Part of the fnaf community is making theories and trying to decipher puzzles, and having Vanny give instruction on everything would take away some of the satisfaction of figuring it out on your own
The Roxy first aid game might have been the original way that she gets 'upgraded' to her Ruined version, but they changed that to her just grabbing a mask at the end of her final makeover game.
Honestly, cutting the Vanny lines was a good call. The silent realization of the player when it comes to the mid-game twist hits a lot harder when it's discovered on your own. Having Vanny essentially spoil it for you before the reveal deflates things.
I think it would've been fine if it was just one or two voice lines, or if they wanted to preserve the reveal that it's Vanny speaking to you through the whole game, have them be messages that appear on your computer infrequently. Even then, I think she'd best be relegated to just giving you subtle hints about how to find the Memories.
I hope he doesn’t get too much of himself as he was before yet I admit, they need to bring him back (This makes me feel like I wanna hunt down the ones who didn’t include Monty and choked/strangled just as how Homer Simpson does through all the years but I can’t) Edit: (And of course for making some of us not liking Sun due to taking his frustrations on us when some of us did nothing wrong to him yet we still can’t choked/strangled the ones who screwed us bad) Update: So far, I’m not angry at Sun since I already heard about him well enough
It's so weird how Steel Wool handles arguably the two most interesting characters (Vanny and Monty) in the current FNAF timeline. Both of them are brimming with potential, story, and overall a bit of nuance we haven't seen in a while and YET both are shafted CONSTANTLY! From unused animations to dialogue to straight up cutting them out/lessening their screen times. It's as if Steel Wool has a weird grudge against the very characters THEY created.
it’s so weird and aggravating, i honestly wouldn’t have been satisfied even if they added monty in bonnie bowl as an obstacle, because it wouldn’t give him much room to expand his character, just make people hate him more. and dooon’t get me started on vanny, poor girl got hyped so much, and then robbed
Kinda feel the removed Vanny dialog might have made things better, keeps things ominous with only visual hints. Depending on how things go moving forward they could be course correcting the character as Vanny can still be a separate character from Venessa if done right. But yeah, still think Steel Wool completely screwed-up with the character in Security Breach who had so much set up only to fumble horrifically.
4:15 Tangle is actually in RUIN, you have to be quick and attentive but near the beginning of the game you can see it poking its head through a hole in the wall before slithering off. It's a blink and you'll miss it moment, but Tangle is there.
The fact the second ending has that full Vanny model makes me wonder if they were considering putting additional angles in that scene (perhaps for the future flat version). It would be interesting to have a reverse angle from Vanny’s perspective of squishing Glitchtrap, and possibly even seeing the player character. It’s also possible they just started with the full model from Security Breach and never chopped off the bottom half.
@@novustalks7525 no tf you can't 😭as a cut content enthusiast, im 100% sure that if you could hear bonnie's voice in the files, everybody wouldve been documenting it. unless youre talking about the strange part of code that has a duplicate of eclipse's line have the caption bonnie, but that was fully intended for eclipse, so im pretty sure that it was just some developer oversight.
@novustalks7525 do you have any proof? Because the voice perfectly suits Eclipse, AND if it was really intended for Bonnie, where is the voice line to match? ALSO not to mention, the voiceline wouldn't match the current situation. ALSO ALSO not to mention, there is history of wrong subtitles in security breach (for instance, the entire shutdown sequence monologue is inside Ruin's files for whatever reason)
@@DJ_Octopixel ruin is literally part of SB so of course files are going to be mixed between the two. It happens all of the time. And it literally says bonnie above the dialogue
About removing the mask… it’s just supposed to be your instinct after Ruin that deactivating that beacon let you pull off the mask. The sign was definitely helpful for those who hadn’t seen Ruin, but I think that sign was probably a later addition
Yeah, I also struggled with the mask puzzle. I figured it out when hippo says to look closely at your hands. I held my hands up to my face, it hilighted something there, and my mind was blown when I took the mask off.
Hmm, from what I can gather, we are the last surviving technician. I dunno if we're Cassie's dad specifically, but this is why everyone asks why we are so special - Glitchtrap kept us around so that we could be used to give Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. mask. I'm honestly upset that Monty didn't get to appear. My guess is that he was meant to appear in Bonnie Bowl as an obstacle, but was cut.
i think some of unused content could've made the game better but i understand the choices to not have it in. the only notable part is the vanny voicelines and while they would give more attention to her, i think they would've also made the overall experiance too handholdy and less mysterious, ig the counterpoint to that is that some parts and secrets were rather vague on how to get or needed knowledge of earlier game mechanics (like the mask) but i do think it was overall the right decision most of the other cut content makes sense and isnt a big loss
The visual of Springtrap as a part of the PQ4 tutorial would've helped people not be as confused as they are about Glitchtrap were it included. Otherwise most of it seems to have made it in this time around.
@@sophitiaofhyrule could be, could not, we dont really know since i doubt he had a confirmed VA, which is kinda more important than having lines at all. no voicelines is better than bad ones
Maybe the test map with him in it was for a hard mode Bonnie Bowl map? Considering most of the other minigames had at least 2 levels (except the Endo match game and the freezer room), this could make sense, with Monty possibly being the bigger threat of the level (because of the whole Monty vs. Bonnie thing)
maybe he was cut because his minigames would've been too mechanically similar to roxy's? ego and wrath are his vices, and roxy is the same way. either that, or they just forgot about him somehow
It's really interesting to see how time and time again Vanny gets cut down to just bare bones. I'm not even sure what her role is in HW2 considering she was Vanessa, who's since been freed after SB. Regardless I'm hoping that whatever dlc gets added adds in some context and lore like the Curse of Dreadbear dlc did. Also off topic but the carnival themes are really interesting, even the first aid voice is labeled as "Carnival Nurse" and then there was that big funko wave with circus/carnival themed characters with really interesting designs. It's really getting my hopes up for a circus fnaf game
This game takes place during the security breach era most likely around the start of ruin. Again, her story is told through the background, here it’s from candy cadet, and Princess quest. Really wish they’d actually give vanny some more screen time.
@@Roxy_Roxi Same. We would've gotten a ton of lore from fnaf AR emails if they weren't scrapped too. Its crazy how they had so much set up for her character just for her not to even be a threat in her own game. Maybe one day we'll get an SB remake that focuses on her more bc the current screentime she has is literally less than an hour, if even 20 minutes
My hope is that Vanny appearing again is a sign that they're still planning to do something with her as a character. Whether that be someone entirely new wearing the suit, the twin sister theory being true after all, or even if Vanessa somehow has been infected again (which could line up with the Candy Cadet story from this game.) I don't mind the Mimic as a new threat, but Vanny deserves her time to be in the spotlight. They barely used her, so they honestly still have room to make something work.
@@TheKillerike I think she may be a threat again if the story holds up, but in that instance I think she really should be in the spotlight. Like imagine a game where Roxy and Cassie are trying to escape the pizzaplex, and Vanessa’s trying to help them while not being infected again by the mimic. I think that would be cool
@@Roxy_Roxi I'd be down for that, or if Vanny was separated from Vanessa as her own entity. It's just a shame that she keeps getting put on the back burner. If she does end up being a major threat, she should have a clear presence. More than just trying to control the Mimic too, if that's her aim. (Which would feel odd, as she just destroyed Glitchtrap here) I think the cut lines really give us a good idea of what's going on here; and I'm inclined to trust them as useful points to figure out what's going on. As everything Vanny says lines up with what happens in the game. I also realized that those lines would have given us an extra bit of surprise for the first ending. There's 6 memories, but there's also 6 parts to Faztron. So we could have gone through the game, thinking we were gathering the Glitchtrap memories, only to be extra tricked right at the end.
Maybe the map of Bonnie Bowl with Monty was an early concept for either regular bowling or even a second game of bowling. I could see an interesting set up where Monty is on the lanes and will occasionally either jump in an attempt to punt your ball into the gutter or stand/slowly walk there as an obstacle that you should go out of your way to not hit.
@@Cassiepultduring the intro segment, when you’re walking down the staircase in faz-gifts you can see them quickly duck away in a large broken part of the staircase within the building
i feel like vanny wasn’t even given proper… anything. she just randomly spawned in the game 😭 i really wish we could see more of what security breach was trying to give us (in the trailers and such) before hitting us with kids mode
I'm pretty sure the reason Mystic Hippo says to really look at your hands was to get you to see the blue part of the mask when you have your hands to your head.
I really enjoyed seeing everything that was unused in Help Wanted 2. I found it strange that Monty was in one of the unused maps yet he doesn’t appear in any minigame which sucks. And man, if I haven’t been spoiled by Twitter the day the game came out, I would have been mindblown by the PQ4 minigame (don’t get me wrong, I was still amazed, but the spoilers did take away some of the excitement). Awesome video!
Vanny is the biggest "WTF Why" character in FNaF. I knew she'd end up being everything and nothing at the same time. They can't commit to her. Do they want an evil female character or another hapless victim who needs saving? She has to be one or the other, but right now, she's basically just this cryptic nothing. If she is evil, then what the hell is HER motivation? We don't even really know William's yet. And now there's this Mimic thing. Why is IT doing anything? We need villains with motivations and reason or they aren't terribly compelling. Not knowing why things are happening only works in a truly cryptic story where NOTHING is clear. This game has just enough clear that it's annoying not knowing the rules or why anything has happened.
He has an unused jumpscare in the files so I would be shocked if they didn't he probably didn't make an appearance because devs couldn't figure out where to put him without him feeling too out of place if I could choose where he could appear I would put him in the bowling mini game or foxys log flume ride
honestly i would have liked to see a little bit more of springtrap/glitchtrap/burntrap/william afton in this game. maybe the body of burn trap falling out of the charging station in the ending instead of just the glitchtrap hand or something like that
I have a conspiracy about this game. The Bonnie Bowl mini game was a last minute addition. It feels entirely rushed with what looks like only reused assets from Security Breach and Help Wanted 2.
Its crazy how Vanny, a very unique and interesting antagonist with an amazing story of how she came to be, barely has any part in SB or HW2, she got no screen time and its sad like such a good character to waste. I also find it interesting that Monty is not apart of HW2 and I wonder if its because he's dead as we saw in Ruined where was Chica, Roxy, Sun and Moon are still alive, and we never see Ruined Freddy because he's escaped. I also wanna know why the new version of Moon exists, doesn't seem like its just for funsies
As soon as I saw the TH-cam short you made, I was super excited for the full video. Judging my how Steel Wool has been, I'm sure they'll be a lot of unused content!
i have never ever ever heard anyone talk about the fact that a nightmarionne plush is in this game too. if you go to the part that is left of the stage, take off the mask, and look behind the little part to the right, you can see it. staring at you. and idk if this is a coincidence but i used to have nightmares about a nightmarionne plush, and the fact that i'm probably the first person to ever notice it is odd
The cut spring trap images could have possibly been meant to foreshadow the final ending of vanny crushing glitch trap foreshadowing that the virus is somehow losing control with the players help making possible for the true vanny to take over.
I’m pretty sure Vanny was cut purely because she’s not a villain anymore. It would have been kinda backward to have her be shown as Gregory’s guardian then just turn around and make her the big bad bunny again
Honestly in this case, it WAS probably the best call, especially since that'd kind of ruin the moment when you finally disable the inhibitor and take off the mask :V
0:40 at this point I’m just gonna except the fact vanny might not be used for any future fnaf games I wouldn’t be surprised if vanny was just going to be used in a game but then cut from the game
13:47 Monty's graphic is interesting. It confirms that Monty canonically has a forked tongue instead of a regular one. Do what you will with that information
20:44 "what do I do" with a representation of William Afton, shows us that GlitchTrap doesn't know what to do, knowing that GlitchTrap is either William or the Mimic thinking he is William and knowing that he gets destroyed in that ending, those graphics show us "William's" thought process when you open this minigame, BUT THAT IS JUST A THEORY
I wonder if they cut Monty due to the emphasis on Moon being a bigger player here. I just don’t understand WHY they’re a big character suddenly when in both SB and Ruin you see them for the smallest amount of time, they vanish, and then you might see them in the map randomly. I love the arts and crafts and other mini game with sun and moon…but otherwise I just don’t understand his use in the secret ending. It feels very off. Hopefully it means Moon will actually DO something in future games. I’m sick of the Daycare being 2 seconds long.
except Moon HAS been doing stuff, he literally has a whole underground area dedicated to him, with whole posters, plushies, and even an ad for Moondrop Candies playing. Moon has a huge part in the disappearances in the Pizzaplex, and as a reminder Who knocked Freddy out? Moon Who is always the one Vanessa uses to lure Gregory? Moon Who (along with Baby) has unused jumpscares for their plushes? Moon Moon has huge importance and is practically Vanny's right-hand man.
From grinding the game my self i can say you sometimes see that weird H during some of the jumpscares also its weird that vanny was cut cause shes still listed as a voice in the credits but i cant recall a single voiceline of vanny in the credits
Around 30 seconds in when you said to smack the like button bellow and it made the Freddy nose boop noise, I noticed the like button actually lit up when the squeak noise happened, I never knew that could happened and that fascinated me.
I will never forgive the devs for cutting possible voice lines from my boy Glamrock Bonnie TmT Justice for my boy!!! He deserved to be in the game atleast a tiny bit! Also the Vanny lines would've been cool, but like other people have said they do feel kinda "hand hold-y"
Maybe the test map with Monty in it was for a hard mode Bonnie Bowl map? Considering most of the other minigames had at least 2 levels (except the Endo match game and the freezer room), this could make sense, with Monty possibly being the bigger threat of the level (because of the whole Monty vs. Bonnie thing)
@@isabelortiz1230 Well, no other games have a reference to go off. But VR has to have some sort of reference to be accurate to human perspective. One of the minigames even has a ruler placed in the map as shown in the video.
@@isabelortiz1230 >But the game doesn't take your actual height into account, you can choose it in the game Did you miss the human model with a straight up measurement for reference? Doesnt matter what your height is, that's still a direct reference. ...though i will be honest, i doubt all of these are EXACTLY canon heights? Unless Baby happens to match up to 7'2 in HW2, which is her Canon Height.
At 15:36, the holograms on stage are T-posing despite being a pre-rendered image. Probably just took a snapshot of the Security Breach area without any animations.
Unused content? In a Steel wool game? no way... But seriously HW2 is awesome SW know how to make vr games... just vr tho i hope they make a dlc on this one The lore was... very underwelming just thing that we already knew and things that dont matter at all
The artists and programmers do such good and detailed work while people like the writers (for example) don't even know their own lore and keep changing stuff to the point where they don't end up showing what they want to. I'm not saying that their job is easy I wouldn't survive a day in those offices, but you can clearly tell that people wanted to do something bigger something huge with the vanny story and ended up with just one confusing cutscene and a lot of minigames.
I guess the cut lines were made because they either changed what they wanted the lore of the game to be, or decided that they had too few lines to actually include them in the game at all.
I hope we get a part 2 going over the rest of the game. For some reason, a bunch of these types of videos from different people skip over certain minigames, and it's just weird.
@@AndrewJohn100 i know, but vanny's whole character is lacking so much...i'm not refering especifically to this game, i'm refering to all of her appearences in the series. security breach is my main concern, they had so much planned for her and in the end, she's almost nowhere to be found. she'd be such a cool character if they actually gave her content, her design is super creppy and it has so much potential. especially with the whole william afton brainwashing.
The vanny voice lines makes me so frustrated. Because I can see the vision they WANTED!! To lead the game to and it didn’t go that way and I like THAT WAY WAYYY BETTER
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Yo! So for the unused voicelines, it looks like it has been just speculation by the community whether it's attributed to Vanny or not and the text strings in the files only refer to it as a "Voice" and not explicitly "Vanny"! Though there is some STRONG evidence to support that notion with the graffiti left around the hub world seemingly being the work of Vanny, her being credited in the game for voicework despite not having any lines throughout the game as well as the "Bring him to me." line VERY likely being for Vanny telling Moon to bring her the Glitchtrap plush in the ending - unfortunately, we don't 100% KNOW FOR CERTAIN whether these truly were for Vanny or not. Apologies for assuming the speculation was fact, despite how likely it may be.
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It's really sad this was cut it would have been useful hints
it lines up so well though
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"It kept you alive for a reason" "Remove your mask" Referring to Michael Afton? She was definitely talking to someone with a mask though
11:35 The "H" below the map is what I believe where the game teleports you during either jump scares or the static screen after a jump scare because I remember randomly seeing a letter "H" in the static after I got jump scares a couple times. At first I thought it was the first letter of a hidden code, but I don't know what it's actual purpose is
i also felt like it mayve been something left over from unreal engine as it looks like something id see when doing stuff in it, its been a while since ive used unreal engine to do anything but you very well could be right about it being where it teleports you during jumpscares or the static screen
I got jumpscared in the winner prize room, and I got the H
I saw the H by looking straight up in the pause area during one of the mini games.
When you get jumpscared, it just teleports you down into one of those black spheres where the model in there kills you. I do remember the H static glitch, though. Idk what it could be
My guess about those Vanny voice lines was probably that they felt a lot of it was a little too hand-holding. Part of the fnaf community is making theories and trying to decipher puzzles, and having Vanny give instruction on everything would take away some of the satisfaction of figuring it out on your own
really don't pretend as if these lines answer anything, they don't.
@@tamaritamarileonardo394 It feel like they made up everything as they given how they try to tie in the books
@@tamaritamarileonardo394 That's why they cut them, they were just simply unecessary.
They would also kind of spoil the twist in the secret ending.
Still sucks that Vanny got screwed over...again.
Man I love Vanny's iconic line "Motion Trigger: Breaker Room"
I love instantly going to Circus Baby's voice for whatever reason.
It probably would've been an Easter egg that popped up when going in that level?
The Roxy first aid game might have been the original way that she gets 'upgraded' to her Ruined version, but they changed that to her just grabbing a mask at the end of her final makeover game.
That's possible!
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hopefully they put it into the dlc (if they do one)
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I hope the devs explain why vanny was super cut down not only from this game but security breach as well
Yup
Yeah
Was about to ask how you commented this 8 hours ago and then I saw you were a member
So did they
I think its to build her up idk
Honestly, cutting the Vanny lines was a good call. The silent realization of the player when it comes to the mid-game twist hits a lot harder when it's discovered on your own. Having Vanny essentially spoil it for you before the reveal deflates things.
Yea I’m thinking the same
I think it would've been fine if it was just one or two voice lines, or if they wanted to preserve the reveal that it's Vanny speaking to you through the whole game, have them be messages that appear on your computer infrequently. Even then, I think she'd best be relegated to just giving you subtle hints about how to find the Memories.
Not really because it actually gives her some characterisation and an explanation on what's going on
Vanny and being relegated to basically a cameo, name a more iconic duo
makes more sense than pigpatch over molten freddy
They gotta bring Monty back tbh, it ain’t the same without him
For real
I hope he doesn’t get too much of himself as he was before yet I admit, they need to bring him back
(This makes me feel like I wanna hunt down the ones who didn’t include Monty and choked/strangled just as how Homer Simpson does through all the years but I can’t)
Edit: (And of course for making some of us not liking Sun due to taking his frustrations on us when some of us did nothing wrong to him yet we still can’t choked/strangled the ones who screwed us bad)
Update: So far, I’m not angry at Sun since I already heard about him well enough
Exactly! He's a key character to the lore and a fan favorite! (aside from Roxy but that's a different kind of favorite)
The fact that he's the ONLY one from SB (aside from Gregory, but does that count?) to not get anything is so criminal
Maybe we'll get him in a future DLC
It's so weird how Steel Wool handles arguably the two most interesting characters (Vanny and Monty) in the current FNAF timeline. Both of them are brimming with potential, story, and overall a bit of nuance we haven't seen in a while and YET both are shafted CONSTANTLY! From unused animations to dialogue to straight up cutting them out/lessening their screen times. It's as if Steel Wool has a weird grudge against the very characters THEY created.
it’s so weird and aggravating, i honestly wouldn’t have been satisfied even if they added monty in bonnie bowl as an obstacle, because it wouldn’t give him much room to expand his character, just make people hate him more. and dooon’t get me started on vanny, poor girl got hyped so much, and then robbed
6:46 Taking “I can fix her” to a whole new level 💀
Good comment
Kinda feel the removed Vanny dialog might have made things better, keeps things ominous with only visual hints. Depending on how things go moving forward they could be course correcting the character as Vanny can still be a separate character from Venessa if done right. But yeah, still think Steel Wool completely screwed-up with the character in Security Breach who had so much set up only to fumble horrifically.
They are not proven as Vanny lines though
@@cursedGalataeait could of very easily been Helpy which is why you have to heal him so often
They're done with vanny now. This is it
@@cursedGalataeathey pretty much are, since her voice actor is credited even though she never speaks
@@compassrose1466doesn't make sense
4:15 Tangle is actually in RUIN, you have to be quick and attentive but near the beginning of the game you can see it poking its head through a hole in the wall before slithering off. It's a blink and you'll miss it moment, but Tangle is there.
The fact the second ending has that full Vanny model makes me wonder if they were considering putting additional angles in that scene (perhaps for the future flat version). It would be interesting to have a reverse angle from Vanny’s perspective of squishing Glitchtrap, and possibly even seeing the player character. It’s also possible they just started with the full model from Security Breach and never chopped off the bottom half.
IMO, it’s more likely that they simply scaled up Vanny’s model as that would have been easier than trimming it to only the visible portions somehow
@@STIMULAT10N Definitely possible.
Would have been cool to know how Bonnie's voice sounds.
You can hear it in ruin files
@@novustalks7525 no tf you can't 😭as a cut content enthusiast, im 100% sure that if you could hear bonnie's voice in the files, everybody wouldve been documenting it. unless youre talking about the strange part of code that has a duplicate of eclipse's line have the caption bonnie, but that was fully intended for eclipse, so im pretty sure that it was just some developer oversight.
@@DJ_Octopixel it was intended for bonnie
@novustalks7525 do you have any proof? Because the voice perfectly suits Eclipse, AND if it was really intended for Bonnie, where is the voice line to match? ALSO not to mention, the voiceline wouldn't match the current situation. ALSO ALSO not to mention, there is history of wrong subtitles in security breach (for instance, the entire shutdown sequence monologue is inside Ruin's files for whatever reason)
@@DJ_Octopixel ruin is literally part of SB so of course files are going to be mixed between the two. It happens all of the time.
And it literally says bonnie above the dialogue
About removing the mask… it’s just supposed to be your instinct after Ruin that deactivating that beacon let you pull off the mask. The sign was definitely helpful for those who hadn’t seen Ruin, but I think that sign was probably a later addition
Yeah, I also struggled with the mask puzzle. I figured it out when hippo says to look closely at your hands. I held my hands up to my face, it hilighted something there, and my mind was blown when I took the mask off.
Hmm, from what I can gather, we are the last surviving technician. I dunno if we're Cassie's dad specifically, but this is why everyone asks why we are so special - Glitchtrap kept us around so that we could be used to give Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. mask.
I'm honestly upset that Monty didn't get to appear. My guess is that he was meant to appear in Bonnie Bowl as an obstacle, but was cut.
i think some of unused content could've made the game better but i understand the choices to not have it in. the only notable part is the vanny voicelines and while they would give more attention to her, i think they would've also made the overall experiance too handholdy and less mysterious, ig the counterpoint to that is that some parts and secrets were rather vague on how to get or needed knowledge of earlier game mechanics (like the mask) but i do think it was overall the right decision
most of the other cut content makes sense and isnt a big loss
the entire series is vague. there is very little that is truly confirmed.
Bro not hearing Glamrock Bonnie speak is a HUGE loss
@@sophitiaofhyruleno it’s not. He’s just a stupid easter egg character that was slapped in the games.
The visual of Springtrap as a part of the PQ4 tutorial would've helped people not be as confused as they are about Glitchtrap were it included. Otherwise most of it seems to have made it in this time around.
@@sophitiaofhyrule could be, could not, we dont really know since i doubt he had a confirmed VA, which is kinda more important than having lines at all. no voicelines is better than bad ones
7:03 honestly, if we got to repair Monty after he went on a rampage in his room, it would be SO COOL😢
@WORLDLITEGAMING but they say how cool it was if we got to do that with Monty too and not only Roxy
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Montgomery Gator killed Glamrock Bonnie 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
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Ruin Cassie look Glamrock Bonnie💢>:(💢 killed ⚡the water Monty🖕💀🖕⚡
Cassie ...? 😦
@@АнтонОдноорко and..? what about it? he's still a cool character
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Foxy the pirate fox
I think the thing with the "Unused" Staff bots is that Fazbear isn't using them at that moment, they're spares.
The fact they didn’t use Monty was a massive missed opportunity. He was one of the only somewhat scary things about Security Breach.
Maybe the test map with him in it was for a hard mode Bonnie Bowl map? Considering most of the other minigames had at least 2 levels (except the Endo match game and the freezer room), this could make sense, with Monty possibly being the bigger threat of the level (because of the whole Monty vs. Bonnie thing)
maybe he was cut because his minigames would've been too mechanically similar to roxy's? ego and wrath are his vices, and roxy is the same way. either that, or they just forgot about him somehow
It's really interesting to see how time and time again Vanny gets cut down to just bare bones. I'm not even sure what her role is in HW2 considering she was Vanessa, who's since been freed after SB. Regardless I'm hoping that whatever dlc gets added adds in some context and lore like the Curse of Dreadbear dlc did.
Also off topic but the carnival themes are really interesting, even the first aid voice is labeled as "Carnival Nurse" and then there was that big funko wave with circus/carnival themed characters with really interesting designs. It's really getting my hopes up for a circus fnaf game
This game takes place during the security breach era most likely around the start of ruin. Again, her story is told through the background, here it’s from candy cadet, and Princess quest. Really wish they’d actually give vanny some more screen time.
@@Roxy_Roxi Same. We would've gotten a ton of lore from fnaf AR emails if they weren't scrapped too. Its crazy how they had so much set up for her character just for her not to even be a threat in her own game.
Maybe one day we'll get an SB remake that focuses on her more bc the current screentime she has is literally less than an hour, if even 20 minutes
My hope is that Vanny appearing again is a sign that they're still planning to do something with her as a character. Whether that be someone entirely new wearing the suit, the twin sister theory being true after all, or even if Vanessa somehow has been infected again (which could line up with the Candy Cadet story from this game.)
I don't mind the Mimic as a new threat, but Vanny deserves her time to be in the spotlight. They barely used her, so they honestly still have room to make something work.
@@TheKillerike I think she may be a threat again if the story holds up, but in that instance I think she really should be in the spotlight.
Like imagine a game where Roxy and Cassie are trying to escape the pizzaplex, and Vanessa’s trying to help them while not being infected again by the mimic. I think that would be cool
@@Roxy_Roxi I'd be down for that, or if Vanny was separated from Vanessa as her own entity. It's just a shame that she keeps getting put on the back burner. If she does end up being a major threat, she should have a clear presence. More than just trying to control the Mimic too, if that's her aim. (Which would feel odd, as she just destroyed Glitchtrap here)
I think the cut lines really give us a good idea of what's going on here; and I'm inclined to trust them as useful points to figure out what's going on. As everything Vanny says lines up with what happens in the game.
I also realized that those lines would have given us an extra bit of surprise for the first ending. There's 6 memories, but there's also 6 parts to Faztron. So we could have gone through the game, thinking we were gathering the Glitchtrap memories, only to be extra tricked right at the end.
They did Monty and Bonnie dirty
Maybe the map of Bonnie Bowl with Monty was an early concept for either regular bowling or even a second game of bowling. I could see an interesting set up where Monty is on the lanes and will occasionally either jump in an attempt to punt your ball into the gutter or stand/slowly walk there as an obstacle that you should go out of your way to not hit.
Hey just want to clear up something, Tangle is used in Ruin, and can be seen for a second near the beginning
Just partly, I was meaning the whole model - sorry, I guess I didn't make that clear
WHERE ADRIEN
WHERE
@@Cassiepultduring the intro segment, when you’re walking down the staircase in faz-gifts you can see them quickly duck away in a large broken part of the staircase within the building
@@2006jhz oh wait my bad i already knew that, i thought he said HW2. i didn't realise he meant ruin
@@Cassiepult oh lol
i feel like vanny wasn’t even given proper… anything. she just randomly spawned in the game 😭 i really wish we could see more of what security breach was trying to give us (in the trailers and such) before hitting us with kids mode
Same pal same...
>before hitting us with kids mode
It's been like since FNAF 2 :V
It’s always fun to see what’s Out of Bounds for what the game could’ve been. Either way the game came out amazing and I couldn’t have enjoyed it more.
I'm pretty sure the reason Mystic Hippo says to really look at your hands was to get you to see the blue part of the mask when you have your hands to your head.
I really enjoyed seeing everything that was unused in Help Wanted 2. I found it strange that Monty was in one of the unused maps yet he doesn’t appear in any minigame which sucks. And man, if I haven’t been spoiled by Twitter the day the game came out, I would have been mindblown by the PQ4 minigame (don’t get me wrong, I was still amazed, but the spoilers did take away some of the excitement). Awesome video!
Vanny is the biggest "WTF Why" character in FNaF. I knew she'd end up being everything and nothing at the same time. They can't commit to her. Do they want an evil female character or another hapless victim who needs saving? She has to be one or the other, but right now, she's basically just this cryptic nothing.
If she is evil, then what the hell is HER motivation? We don't even really know William's yet. And now there's this Mimic thing. Why is IT doing anything?
We need villains with motivations and reason or they aren't terribly compelling. Not knowing why things are happening only works in a truly cryptic story where NOTHING is clear. This game has just enough clear that it's annoying not knowing the rules or why anything has happened.
I hope they bring Montgomery back in a dlc. I’m so mad they didn’t include him at all.
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Only he lefted his jaw in roxanne wolf minigame
He has an unused jumpscare in the files so I would be shocked if they didn't he probably didn't make an appearance because devs couldn't figure out where to put him without him feeling too out of place if I could choose where he could appear I would put him in the bowling mini game or foxys log flume ride
@@Silence.- the gator feels left out😭
They could've made a monty gondola ride game or even golf and yet they continue to give him nothing
honestly i would have liked to see a little bit more of springtrap/glitchtrap/burntrap/william afton in this game. maybe the body of burn trap falling out of the charging station in the ending instead of just the glitchtrap hand or something like that
VANESSA CRAWLING LIKE A RABBIT WILL HAUNT MY NIGHTMARES.
I have a conspiracy about this game. The Bonnie Bowl mini game was a last minute addition. It feels entirely rushed with what looks like only reused assets from Security Breach and Help Wanted 2.
10:53 most likely Monty was a place holder for the gaters that come out and try to block the ball.
Maybe?
Its crazy how Vanny, a very unique and interesting antagonist with an amazing story of how she came to be, barely has any part in SB or HW2, she got no screen time and its sad like such a good character to waste. I also find it interesting that Monty is not apart of HW2 and I wonder if its because he's dead as we saw in Ruined where was Chica, Roxy, Sun and Moon are still alive, and we never see Ruined Freddy because he's escaped. I also wanna know why the new version of Moon exists, doesn't seem like its just for funsies
As soon as I saw the TH-cam short you made, I was super excited for the full video. Judging my how Steel Wool has been, I'm sure they'll be a lot of unused content!
Vanny is in Help wanted 2: YES
Also had her role reduced and scrapped content: SECOND VERSE SAME AS THE 1ST COME ON!!!
Not really she still has the exact same role just no dialogue
Massive props for Tetra using the best Daycare Attendant laugh in the intro :D
i have never ever ever heard anyone talk about the fact that a nightmarionne plush is in this game too. if you go to the part that is left of the stage, take off the mask, and look behind the little part to the right, you can see it. staring at you. and idk if this is a coincidence but i used to have nightmares about a nightmarionne plush, and the fact that i'm probably the first person to ever notice it is odd
Fuhnaff noticed it. He also saw the nightmarione plush that’s in princess quest - behind a pillar before you start going downwards into the pit
The cut spring trap images could have possibly been meant to foreshadow the final ending of vanny crushing glitch trap foreshadowing that the virus is somehow losing control with the players help making possible for the true vanny to take over.
Can't believe they did nothing with monty
Very sad :(
6:47
Roxy: “JUST PUT ON THE MASK AND *GET OUT* !!!!”
*okay but it might not be the one you think*
1 like = 1 Helpy hammer smack
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We need more smacks
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ALREADY ANOTHER LOST BITS VID!??!!??
I’m pretty sure Vanny was cut purely because she’s not a villain anymore. It would have been kinda backward to have her be shown as Gregory’s guardian then just turn around and make her the big bad bunny again
Bro if thats true, they really wasted her potential because she barely ever appears in security breach
man Steel Wool must really hate Vanny or something, with all the cut stuff she has
Honestly in this case, it WAS probably the best call, especially since that'd kind of ruin the moment when you finally disable the inhibitor and take off the mask :V
Bro its own model he cant do that if he was hated vanny, he already remove that character
0:40 at this point I’m just gonna except the fact vanny might not be used for any future fnaf games I wouldn’t be surprised if vanny was just going to be used in a game but then cut from the game
13:47 Monty's graphic is interesting. It confirms that Monty canonically has a forked tongue instead of a regular one. Do what you will with that information
I hope that the dlc gives us a monty themed game, like gater golf or something
15:40 The three animatronics on the stage are actually T-Posing :'D
1:30 Crawling Vanny
Indeed
20:44 "what do I do" with a representation of William Afton, shows us that GlitchTrap doesn't know what to do, knowing that GlitchTrap is either William or the Mimic thinking he is William and knowing that he gets destroyed in that ending, those graphics show us "William's" thought process when you open this minigame, BUT THAT IS JUST A THEORY
I wonder if they cut Monty due to the emphasis on Moon being a bigger player here. I just don’t understand WHY they’re a big character suddenly when in both SB and Ruin you see them for the smallest amount of time, they vanish, and then you might see them in the map randomly. I love the arts and crafts and other mini game with sun and moon…but otherwise I just don’t understand his use in the secret ending. It feels very off. Hopefully it means Moon will actually DO something in future games. I’m sick of the Daycare being 2 seconds long.
except Moon HAS been doing stuff, he literally has a whole underground area dedicated to him, with whole posters, plushies, and even an ad for Moondrop Candies playing.
Moon has a huge part in the disappearances in the Pizzaplex, and as a reminder
Who knocked Freddy out? Moon
Who is always the one Vanessa uses to lure Gregory? Moon
Who (along with Baby) has unused jumpscares for their plushes? Moon
Moon has huge importance and is practically Vanny's right-hand man.
2:50 eh, I can understand why it was cut, it is kinda handholdy. Also this is Fnaf, everything has to be vague u_u
4:49 Nah, whoever was writing the test code here just gave up on everything 😆
I had wondered why Vanny was credited despite not saying a goddamn word all game!
If possible, in the Princess Quest ending, a hand emerges from the Charging Station, a human hand. Could you see who it is?
a helpy smack is always a necessary piece of any good game
I wish monty was in there :(
Wow, another game where Vanny was supposed to get more screen time and yet didn't. Who would've expected that-
4:11 Tangle/the blob does appear in ruin, goin down the stairs right after you get the faz-wrench.
10:26 Thats not just any Monty, ITS GIGA MONTY!!! RUN!!!!
I can't be the only one giggling at the bonnie face appearing in the bowling game tv screen 😂😂😂 13:49
18:35 she actually does appear
She appears in the hard mode of bonk a bonk
Bonk-a-Bon isnt the Sister Location minigame :V
I have been WAITING for this video!!!
"the memories are freed.use the token.BRING HIM TO ME" dang vanny those are some Cold lines🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
From grinding the game my self i can say you sometimes see that weird H during some of the jumpscares also its weird that vanny was cut cause shes still listed as a voice in the credits but i cant recall a single voiceline of vanny in the credits
Around 30 seconds in when you said to smack the like button bellow and it made the Freddy nose boop noise, I noticed the like button actually lit up when the squeak noise happened, I never knew that could happened and that fascinated me.
what a coincidence, was just watching your older videos! it’s indeed super weird how they don’t want to use Vanny a lot, she’s so cool…. 😢
I will never forgive the devs for cutting possible voice lines from my boy Glamrock Bonnie TmT
Justice for my boy!!! He deserved to be in the game atleast a tiny bit!
Also the Vanny lines would've been cool, but like other people have said they do feel kinda "hand hold-y"
the similarities between vanny and baby grow everyday
Maybe the test map with Monty in it was for a hard mode Bonnie Bowl map? Considering most of the other minigames had at least 2 levels (except the Endo match game and the freezer room), this could make sense, with Monty possibly being the bigger threat of the level (because of the whole Monty vs. Bonnie thing)
A "squad of Mini-rinas" and a "flock of Plush-Babies" is the funniest description of a group I have heard in a while.
i would have called the minirinas a murder of minirinas
Ooooo yes i waited just for that, merry christmass!
Same to you! Thanks for watching
10:50 Monty could be from a scrapped cutscene, where he would kill Bonnie, BUT THAT IS JUST A THEORY AN UNUUUUUUUUUUUUSEEEEEEEEED CONTENT THEORY
He didn't kill him look harder
GIVE US THE GATOR ! Bring back Monty! 🐊🐊🐊
At this point they probably hide stuff in the files ON PURPOSE bc they know we’ll see it and it will all make sense.
15:39 The Animatronic Holograms are T-posing lol
Nice catch that’s hilarious 😂
The "letter H" is a scale for how big one unit is in the map
why can't there be a make out with Monty minigame :(
Nice video. But I have a suggestion, since the game is in VR, you could give the official heights of the aninatronics!
How does it being vr help
@@isabelortiz1230 Well, no other games have a reference to go off. But VR has to have some sort of reference to be accurate to human perspective. One of the minigames even has a ruler placed in the map as shown in the video.
@@ThatGuacamolyGuy But the game doesn't take your actual height into account, you can choose it in the game
@@isabelortiz1230 >But the game doesn't take your actual height into account, you can choose it in the game
Did you miss the human model with a straight up measurement for reference?
Doesnt matter what your height is, that's still a direct reference.
...though i will be honest, i doubt all of these are EXACTLY canon heights? Unless Baby happens to match up to 7'2 in HW2, which is her Canon Height.
Reply 5, size doesn't matter, the rizz does
I think Vannys voice lines would have been pretty cool and spooky
At 15:36, the holograms on stage are T-posing despite being a pre-rendered image. Probably just took a snapshot of the Security Breach area without any animations.
15:40 Those T-posing animatronics`s holograms💀
I would guess that the "H"s might relate to the player height as that can be adjusted by the player and vary mini game to mini game
15:40
Oh my god, the showtime holograms are T-posing
Why can't they just give Vannys Poor character some recognization? 😭
Unused content? In a Steel wool game? no way...
But seriously HW2 is awesome SW know how to make vr games... just vr tho i hope they make a dlc on this one
The lore was... very underwelming just thing that we already knew and things that dont matter at all
The artists and programmers do such good and detailed work while people like the writers (for example) don't even know their own lore and keep changing stuff to the point where they don't end up showing what they want to. I'm not saying that their job is easy I wouldn't survive a day in those offices, but you can clearly tell that people wanted to do something bigger something huge with the vanny story and ended up with just one confusing cutscene and a lot of minigames.
Dude when you said “smack that like button” and “subscribe” it put a little rainbow outline effect around them at the time you said it!
I guess the cut lines were made because they either changed what they wanted the lore of the game to be, or decided that they had too few lines to actually include them in the game at all.
ngl i feel like in the later updates most of these unused thibgs will either be finished and added, or reworked to fit better sonewhere else
Leave it to steel wool to leave literal gigabytes of forgotten assets in their games
I hope we get a part 2 going over the rest of the game. For some reason, a bunch of these types of videos from different people skip over certain minigames, and it's just weird.
Not sure what you mean by the "rest of the game" but if there wasn't anything interesting to talk about in a minigame, naturally I skip over it lol
11:44 I think the H stands for player hight? Since you can change your hight on the game
Hearing Vanny speak in a way where she’s helping us would’ve been really cool
again vanny being cut. i just wish they used the potential vanny has, she can be an amazing antagonist if her character is actually explored.
She wasn't cut beyond her dialogue.
@@AndrewJohn100 i know, but vanny's whole character is lacking so much...i'm not refering especifically to this game, i'm refering to all of her appearences in the series. security breach is my main concern, they had so much planned for her and in the end, she's almost nowhere to be found. she'd be such a cool character if they actually gave her content, her design is super creppy and it has so much potential. especially with the whole william afton brainwashing.
@@fefe_10 Ok well hopefully, HW2 is a sight that Vanny will appear more.
@@AndrewJohn100 ok bro lol, the only thing they didn't cut was the one time we see her model
I'm convinced Steel wool actually hates vanny and scraps her content every oportunity they get
The vanny voice lines makes me so frustrated. Because I can see the vision they WANTED!! To lead the game to and it didn’t go that way and I like THAT WAY WAYYY BETTER