So effectively, what you fired into the Australian wilderness would be: AIM-9 Sidewinders (The first gen Harriers could only carry 2) and Firestreaks, although first gen Harriers could literally only carry the 2 Sidewinders and bombs.
Oop, yeah looking at earlier pictures it was definitely a bit more pointy and white the first few iterations, okay guess we in a super accelerated timeline 😂
Hello Carnasa, I've watched the part when you struggled with the manuvering of the vertical take off and landing of your harrier jump jet, and I've noticed that your jump jet is missing reaction thrusters on the nose, wings and tail. The real jump jet has thrusters I've mentioned above that use air from the pegasus engine to control the plane in vtol mode, whereas the control surfaces are useless unless in horizontal flight.
I looked this up after designing it, and yeah noticed that, I think the only thing I could use is HTP RCS thrusters on it, but I tried that and even the largest ones are simply not powerful enough in atmo to do anything :( but yeah flying in VTOL config is an absolute nightmare because of that haha
If you want/need some more inspiration for uniquely Kerbalizable (and often unbuilt) British aircraft, you might try Tony Buttler's "British Secret Projects" books, in particular "Hypersonics, Ramjets and Missiles" and "Jet Bombers Since 1949." They're on Scribd, too, last I checked. The same publisher also has a a few "French Secret Projects" books in the same series, by J. C. Carbonel, including "French and European Spaceplane Designs 1964-1994," which might have a few obscure, promising gems. If you REALLY want to lure in some viewers/patreons, though, while keeping with the Commonwealth theming? I've got four words for you: "Avro Arrow, and variants." :)
I just checked about the Olympus engines, yeah the TSR-2 used the original Olympus engine, which was developed into the Olympus 593. Edit: The engine was designed in 1966, so it is technically of the right period.
Man, the Kestral looks about as much of a pain to fly as the real thing! Its definitely one of my favorites in DCS world, but it takes a lot of practice to fly in vtol mode. STO/L mode is a bit easier, but I don't exactly know how much control the Kestral has over its nozzle angle
local pilot here idk if it was just it being speed up or not but turning down sensitivity on ailerons/rudder might help or even using a V tail ruddervator though all honesty any VTOL is going to be naturally unstable these are just a few ideas if you want to be really crazy there is always the Sikorsky XV-2.
There was a Harrier engine at the Fleet Air Arm museum in Yeovil, and also a Concorde prototype- no headroom at all in there, it was really rather cramped! But what is this “Bagel” probe you speak of?
Wow really cool, i also like the Roleplay part of the series, one thing I would change is the beggining felt a little too oldstyle-ish, you should use a differnt filter, because thst looked like 1940s
Having now successfully binged all of for all Kerbalkimd whilst sick, it does appear that ESA is quite a fair whack behind the other nations. Are there any plans on top of international collaboration to get our girls and guys caught up with the superpowers?
The harrier used air based RCS. Configuring air RCS for RP-1 seems not fun, so maybe just adding compressed nitrogen or another small tank of fuel would work better.
One option there would be to use HTP, as that could be justified as also powering the aircraft’s auxiliary power unit when engine power is unavailable or insufficient.
Epic episode, can't wait to see what happens next. BTW if you want to learn more about planes and missiles and are up for a challenge, I'd reccomended DCS over war thunder
Not gonna happen unfortunately, it’s already hard enough getting three people to collaborate, let alone adding a fourth! But China Jaxa or even ISRO would definitely be quite interesting to see
If anyone is interested in more information on Beagle 2, the National Space Centre in Leicester, UK did a good video on it for the 20 year anniversary which was on Christmas Day last year! th-cam.com/video/lqE44_DvKi0/w-d-xo.html
The Smaller missiles you put on your Harrier are probably short range air-air missiles, probably equivilent to the AIM 9 Sidewinder which the Harrier historically used, while the larger ones could be air-ground missiles like the AGM 12 Bullpup, or they could be another, longer ranged air-air missile more equivilent in capabilities to something like an AIM 7 Sparrow. Your Harrier is also much more heavily armed than the real life one, which only had 5 total hardpoints, each only carrying one bomb or missile, plus a pair of 30mm cannons.
the version he made was the harrier 2 (you can tell by gear placing) so GR5, 7 or 9 so it has 8 underwing pylons, 2 of which had to be used for aam due to weight as there are under wing landing gear, (us av8s lack these hardpoints) then also 3 hardpoints under fuselage (one can only have a gun pod that is half built into fuselage, 1 bombs and the other the gun pod or a targeting pod for laser guided munitions) also unrelated note for anyone else TSR 2 was meant to be a low altitude tactical strike platform for both nuclear and conventional payloads but also with the secondary ability to do recognisance after sensors fitted in the bomb bay, not dissimilar to the Canberra it was meant to replace.
*Helicopter planes Lieutenant*
Most based statement
*_Helicopter planes Left-tenant_* Is the correct transcript
@@wow-roblox8370 if you're going to "um actually" someone, maybe learn to spell first 🙄
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@@TheBeardyPenguin Totally not trying to hide something 😝
Beagle 2 37 years early goes crazy! wishing it better fortune than the real spacecraft.
Looks like Carnasa's version of the Harrier is decidedly beefier in terms of capabilities compared to the OTL version.
So effectively, what you fired into the Australian wilderness would be:
AIM-9 Sidewinders (The first gen Harriers could only carry 2) and Firestreaks, although first gen Harriers could literally only carry the 2 Sidewinders and bombs.
clearly this harrier is far beefier than it's IRL counterpart then.
@@Destroyer_V0 Or it trades off range for firepower, using drop tanks and mid-air refueling for longer range.
considering it is the Kestral you could argue for SRAAMS since those were fitted to the prototype but no actual production model as far as I know
TSR 2!!!!!! thats my favorite plane thanks for resurecting this beautiful aircraft in ksp
HELECOPTER PLANES!!
(Putting on nerd glasses) Although you’ve modeled the Harrier, it’s the GR.7, a 1980s upgrade.
Oop, yeah looking at earlier pictures it was definitely a bit more pointy and white the first few iterations, okay guess we in a super accelerated timeline 😂
@@Carnasa still a lovely piece, of engineering to see in the series. Can’t wait to see it VTOL onto the moon
Hello Carnasa,
I've watched the part when you struggled with the manuvering of the vertical take off and landing of your harrier jump jet, and I've noticed that your jump jet is missing reaction thrusters on the nose, wings and tail. The real jump jet has thrusters I've mentioned above that use air from the pegasus engine to control the plane in vtol mode, whereas the control surfaces are useless unless in horizontal flight.
I looked this up after designing it, and yeah noticed that, I think the only thing I could use is HTP RCS thrusters on it, but I tried that and even the largest ones are simply not powerful enough in atmo to do anything :(
but yeah flying in VTOL config is an absolute nightmare because of that haha
@@Carnasa I’m sure you will find a way to make it work.
@@Carnasa You should check out throttle controlled avionics. It allows you to do a bunch of cool stuff with asymmetric thrust crafts.
For all kerbalkind I love way too much for a KSP series!
Carnasa really carries the upload schedule
If you want/need some more inspiration for uniquely Kerbalizable (and often unbuilt) British aircraft, you might try Tony Buttler's "British Secret Projects" books, in particular "Hypersonics, Ramjets and Missiles" and "Jet Bombers Since 1949." They're on Scribd, too, last I checked.
The same publisher also has a a few "French Secret Projects" books in the same series, by J. C. Carbonel, including "French and European Spaceplane Designs 1964-1994," which might have a few obscure, promising gems.
If you REALLY want to lure in some viewers/patreons, though, while keeping with the Commonwealth theming? I've got four words for you: "Avro Arrow, and variants." :)
When you make a heavier version name it Ariane Grande.
To think years ago we were getting excited about sputnik 2. Now we have a full force cold war.
I just checked about the Olympus engines, yeah the TSR-2 used the original Olympus engine, which was developed into the Olympus 593.
Edit: The engine was designed in 1966, so it is technically of the right period.
You have probably heard the traditional missile naming scheme like AGM- 65 which does indeed stand for air to ground missile.
It's not for surveillance, it's for awesomeness.
"We don't do these things because they easy but because they are cool".
-JFK, probably
That TSR-2 recreation was very spot on. :D
16:48 that is so of scale lol. either those are tiny planes, or giant sticks and leaves on the ground
yeah haha parallax textures are a lil wonky xD
Don't tell me you're going to try and resolve the Falkland Islands crisis with orbital launches?
An episode all about planes you said??! WELL CONSIDER ME FANCIED, TICKLED AND DELIGHTED!
Man, the Kestral looks about as much of a pain to fly as the real thing! Its definitely one of my favorites in DCS world, but it takes a lot of practice to fly in vtol mode. STO/L mode is a bit easier, but I don't exactly know how much control the Kestral has over its nozzle angle
You heard the man. He wants helicopter planes by the end of the year, and you are going to deliver a working prototype by then.
Woohoo!!
Just as good as tv series
I remember this from kollaborative warfare
local pilot here idk if it was just it being speed up or not but turning down sensitivity on ailerons/rudder might help or even using a V tail ruddervator though all honesty any VTOL is going to be naturally unstable these are just a few ideas if you want to be really crazy there is always the Sikorsky XV-2.
Wow, things are heating up in FAK. First the whole spy thing and now harriers?
There was a Harrier engine at the Fleet Air Arm museum in Yeovil, and also a Concorde prototype- no headroom at all in there, it was really rather cramped!
But what is this “Bagel” probe you speak of?
TSR 2 MENTIONED
what is the piano song in the TSR-2 low altitude flight?
is it........ a Hawker Siddley Harrier?
Things are heating up boys!
Love the TSR2
Wow really cool, i also like the Roleplay part of the series, one thing I would change is the beggining felt a little too oldstyle-ish, you should use a differnt filter, because thst looked like 1940s
Having now successfully binged all of for all Kerbalkimd whilst sick, it does appear that ESA is quite a fair whack behind the other nations. Are there any plans on top of international collaboration to get our girls and guys caught up with the superpowers?
Godspeed B-Gull!!!
The harrier used air based RCS. Configuring air RCS for RP-1 seems not fun, so maybe just adding compressed nitrogen or another small tank of fuel would work better.
One option there would be to use HTP, as that could be justified as also powering the aircraft’s auxiliary power unit when engine power is unavailable or insufficient.
No mercy to airspace intrusions!
“Helicopter planes”
can you make a wiki for for all kerbalkind
Epic episode, can't wait to see what happens next. BTW if you want to learn more about planes and missiles and are up for a challenge, I'd reccomended DCS over war thunder
oooh DCS is a good shout actually, I've never touched it myself, but seen N9 play it, looks really cool!
@Carnasa I just joined the discord, if you do decide to try it and want someone to show you the basics just let me know
War Thunder is good for the general stuff, but DCS is more technical details
The argies are gonna be rather scared.
But are any missiles as deadly as the Australian outback?
The true question is always in the comments
Never been but I've heard its quite inhospitable :P
I get way too hyped over this 😂
Why would you make a VTOL plane when you can just make a plane that can spin around really, really fast and eventually takes off?
Is Hilda your pet hedgehog?
Is there Hilda lore?
Does for all Kerbal kind have celebrity hedgehogs? Like the Wombles of Kerbin?
damn epic intro
I want to see some youtuber do china in this series, that would be cool
Not gonna happen unfortunately, it’s already hard enough getting three people to collaborate, let alone adding a fourth!
But China Jaxa or even ISRO would definitely be quite interesting to see
@@Carnasa yea I see how this would be unpractical, one can dream, who know maybe in KSP2 multiplayer I can see that happen some day.
LETS GO HILDA THE HEDGEHOG!!
Bravo🎉
If anyone is interested in more information on Beagle 2, the National Space Centre in Leicester, UK did a good video on it for the 20 year anniversary which was on Christmas Day last year! th-cam.com/video/lqE44_DvKi0/w-d-xo.html
This was a really interesting watch! :D
Very cool😊
bwahahaha
How did you guys set up the multiplayer aspect of this series?
What they do is when a craft lets say gets into orbit they send the craft data to the others
The Smaller missiles you put on your Harrier are probably short range air-air missiles, probably equivilent to the AIM 9 Sidewinder which the Harrier historically used, while the larger ones could be air-ground missiles like the AGM 12 Bullpup, or they could be another, longer ranged air-air missile more equivilent in capabilities to something like an AIM 7 Sparrow. Your Harrier is also much more heavily armed than the real life one, which only had 5 total hardpoints, each only carrying one bomb or missile, plus a pair of 30mm cannons.
the version he made was the harrier 2 (you can tell by gear placing) so GR5, 7 or 9 so it has 8 underwing pylons, 2 of which had to be used for aam due to weight as there are under wing landing gear, (us av8s lack these hardpoints) then also 3 hardpoints under fuselage (one can only have a gun pod that is half built into fuselage, 1 bombs and the other the gun pod or a targeting pod for laser guided munitions)
also unrelated note for anyone else TSR 2 was meant to be a low altitude tactical strike platform for both nuclear and conventional payloads but also with the secondary ability to do recognisance after sensors fitted in the bomb bay, not dissimilar to the Canberra it was meant to replace.
Great TH-cam unsubscribed me now playing catch up
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@@seanyboystudios8002 got unsubscribed without my knowledge so is now watching them all from the beginning to catch up
ASMs are real.
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Harriers in the mid 60s huh? Nice
Actually first flew in 1967 :D blew my mind when I found that out (this episode does go into 1967 too so it’s time accurate!)
@@Carnasa Really?! That's perfect timing then!