It's generally creepy to see Brian and Landy alongside each other in most interviews, but the clip at 8:25 is very telling in hindsight. Landy's talking about how normal and well-adjusted Brian has become, but Brian is silent, hunched over, trying to make himself small next to Landy who, at that time, was controlling him through fear, cruelty, and medication.
during this time brian looked more like his 1962 self than he did in 1965! Brian is one of those people whos look change extremely quickly by the slightest amount of weight gain.
I've always thought this too! From 1962 onwards he looks nothing like the photographs from Hawthorne High or his earlier childhood. Then again in 75-82 he didn't even resemble the 62-75 incarnation. Three relatively different looking facial structures. It wasn't until 87-92 did his facial structure resemble his youth again, his jawline became so defined again. He looked weirdly different again after 1992, for example if you watch him in the special with Mike Love or even the Don Was documentary. Around 1998- he became more defined again around the cheeks and jawline and to this day looks as you would have expected him to based on his Hawthorne High pictures.
he was great for Brian's personal well-being. got him in the best shape of his life, fit and drug free. but he kept him from seeing anyone else, as well as drained his bank account of exorbitant amounts of money. he should have been his personal trainer and nothing else.
Wish i could have been born in that time still enjoy their music we will never have anybody that awsome again than the wilson brothers they were truly blessed.
Wait a second, Susan… Whenever I see someone make this comment it makes me sad because existentially you were born at *just the right time* to enjoy this album whereas if you had been born back then, you never would have gotten to experience the album in its completion until 2004 and by then, Who knows what kind of person or where you’d be...!
Brian was very coherent in this interview, and even said some little nuggets of brilliance. It's sad now knowing what was going on in the background during this era (Landy). But nonetheless, Brian Wilson is a fantastic album, even if Landy took way more credit for it than he deserved. Landy DID become more involved with Sweet Insanity, which is why it is a far inferior album and was never officially released. I have it and while it has some highlights, it's still a depressing listen for the most part.
That album is largely unlestenable to me. It's clear Brian didn;t produce it and other than "Love and Mercy" the songs are horrible. I may give it another listen but I doubt I'll change my mind.
I always listened to 60s rock & roll, and loved the music of James Taylor, but by far, Brian Wilson conveyed a sense of happiness in a midst of complicated issues while finding my way as a 12 yr old! It was like medicine & inspiration. Dont know if I ever found my way, but thank God 4 the Genious.
You earned my subscription. You really found some great stuff from some lost years everyone wants to know about. The Beach Boy music and drama of their story never gets old to me.
Landy I regret to say probably saved the man though there was Breakage done as well. Bri would be dead if not introducing Brian to the late Melinda Ledbetter aka Brian's Renaissance lady. Loved her too. Met them both on pet sounds tour bus with Jeff Foskett.
Oh wow, thank for posting this. I recognize sections of the interview from the Words and Music promo Justin mentioned. But there's a lot of great footage here of Brian I've never seen. One thing is certain, he looked fantastic during these years! He was a good looking guy.
In 1981 I spoke to Brian Wilson for 20 minutes in his hotel room before a show: he was massively overweight and coked up but he was also completely lucid and clear-headed. He had complete recall of music he had recorded. Then I started to see interviews with Brian after he had spent a few years under Gene Landy's" care" and it was so sad and disappointing to me. Brian looked great which seemed to take the focus off the things he was trying to say and how he was saying them. He seemed more confused and damaged then when I spoke to him in 1981. I don't think he ever recovered from Landy's "care".
"I didn't want to hurt the Beach Boys' feelings....I would sacrifice my own thing for somebody else's feelings...I'm not exactly like that anymore." BEAUTIFUL!!! I LOVE hat statement. Did cousin Mikey worry about your feelings, there, Brian? No, I don't think so.
@@city2sb Brian weighed around 300 pounds before Landy showed up. He would've died from a heart attack or some other health Issue if nobody stepped in. I don't agree with everything that Landy did but He did save Brian Wilson's life by getting him to lose weight.
@@ludwigfan3013 people say this like Landy was the only human that could’ve helped Brian. There was plenty of therapists out there that could’ve saved Brian mentally and physically without drugging and extorting him.
@@ludwigfan3013 Other doctors could have gotten Brian Back to health without taking over his life. Also Pet Sounds and Smile were "Solo albums" because there was no way the other BB's, especially Mike could contribute anything other than performances. It was WAYYYY beyond them.
@@city2sb I hate Landy as much as any Brian fan...but he was the only one to get him to drop the life threatening weight gain...as far as drugs n booze, he did allow Brian to drink occasionally (there are pictures of them toasting with wine, and Brian's glass is filled to the top lol)and as for the drugs...yea he got him off the coke and other narcotics but he fed Brian all kinds of psychotropic drugs he wasn't licensed to prescribe. He was unethical, mentally and possibly physically abusive to Brian who was just always a fragile guy...he did ultimately save his life(cuz he would've had a heart attack between the food and all the coke he was doin) but he caused alot of psychological trauma to Brian as well. I had the privilege of seeing the man himself last Saturday with his band, Al and Blondie...they upgraded our seats cuz of a technical error they had... I was 50 ft from Brian... It was great and also kinda sad, he was using a walker and had a escort to his piano.. I don't think he played a note but boy did he give it his all vocally... I mean for 79 yrs old he still rocked !! And Al's son Matt...man he sings Brian's falsetto sooo damn good.
Brian was helped to an extent by Dr. Landy who was a psychologist and not a psychiatrist. Unfortunately, it appears from a distance that Dr. Landy became consumed by Brian’s celebrity and lifestyle and stayed far too long in the situation.. There is an old saying that someone can stay at the fair too long meaning you stay in a situation beyond it’s expiration date. It did not have to end badly with Brian Wilson for Dr. Landy but he has no one to blame but himself for how his relationship with Brian ended. I think Dr. Landy did do some good with Brian but he did not know when to wrap it up.
Landy helped Brian a lot early on, Brian was a mess, that part was good, then Eugene evolved into an extreme control phase realizing Brian would eventually move on. Landy milked him for as much money as he could before Brian got enough family and friend support to finally cut Landy loose. For all his intelligence, Eugene Landy succumbed to his own greed in the end.
I just watched Love and Mercy last night. It was a very good biopic. While Landy might have done a few good things for Brian in the beginning, he ultimately was going to destroy him and he went so far as to even have access to Brian’s estate should anything have happened to him. I’m so glad his wife Melinda took action to get Landy away from him. Good for her. He she not done that, Brian would have died a long time ago.
I see this time period, even Brian today to an extent, & so miss 60s (probably pre 68) Brian. The complete command & leadership he had, not even speaking to the music, just him as a brother, son, husband etc. His enormous, unparalleled talent has always come through, no matter the stage of his life. But I’ve rarely, if ever seen that Brian again. That Brian would’ve eaten Eugene Landy for breakfast, & that’s only if he could’ve been bothered with him at all
“SMiLE” has become my favorite album. That’s not easy, you know? To actually name a “favorite album”? That’s like picking a favorite child. But I have: and it’s “SMiLE”.
@Gabe W Wow, very rude. The insistence of folks running things spelling it SMiLE every time is something that only began after like 2005. Look into any 60s or 70s literature on the subject. And the cover artwork, eh. Is your favorite Beach Boys song "GOOd VibrAtiONS GOOd VibrAtiONS GOOd VibrAtiONS"?
@@runnersdialzero1244I could understand you going on a rampage about the destruction of words like, genius, underrated, literally, etc. But really, an album title? It’s art. Is it really worth upsetting people over it?
Wow, alot of this footage was audio on the Words and Music promo I believe. Whats scary is there's prolly a ton of footage working out on tape somewhere.
I want to go back in time, grab Landy by his atrocious mullet and slam his smug, sinister face into multiple objects (think Cliff Booth and the Manson girl in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood).
I was starting to enjoy it right when Gene Landy jumped in and started mouthing off about he saved Brian and he's such a great person and he's as talented as Brian like stfu "Dr LaNdY"
Man brian really changed after landy took full control over him. He sounds and behaves like a different person compared to when he was younger. Almost like a big kid. At it stuck til the present day.
I know Eugene Landy was a greedy narcissistic SOB but you got to give him credit for getting Brian his physical health back, however it's obvious that he was not qualified to prescribe him the psychotropic drugs he was taking.
It's just VERY hard to watch this , knowing how Landy kept BW so over -medicated with the wrong medications . Landy needed to control Brian, so he-----Landy et al-------could continue to profit, & live the life of rock stars, without ever doing the hard work of learning instruments, composing, arranging , & Producing the music. Thank God his family finally intervened & put a stop to Landy..--------Finally ! --------------------MJL, 76 y/o
1988-------------BW was fully under Engene Landy's control. -------------Sad----------looking at this now, it's hard to watch. It's clear, his mind was badly damaged due to all of his insane drug use. ----------he willingly , & knowingly destroyed his sweet, angelic voice , & that's tragic. -------------------------WolfSky9, 74 y/o
Ahhhhhh, Michelle . -----------she's now 76 y/o & looks it . Nothing to be ashamed of---------not at all. -------------We all look old, these days. ----------------------------------WolfSky9, 74 y/o
Nah..that Landy was a true Con Artist..and this Master is Broken at this point. Like a Meissen Vase that shattered and has been glued back together again. The person that he was was totally lost..just a very small portion remains.
Michelle ! The Mamas & papas DID & sang -------at least 2 songs most worthy of the brilliance of " Pet Sounds " : 1. " Look Through My Window :" & -------and ---------- # 2: -" Dancing Bear " ---------Both are gorgeous , & worthy of the VERY best music of the 60's , & beyond. The Boys had Brian, but you had John Phillips, who, had he not destroyed himself with drugs, could have rivalled The Beach Boys & The Beatles, easily. EASILY. And the 2 aforementioned songs are proof . ------------------MJL, 76 y/o
Landy did a phenomenal job with Brian and Brian was never the same after Landy departed. Perhaps he violated some rules working with a client as far as business concerns but I think people trash him otherwise unnecessarily.
He had Brian change his will and leave him everything in it. He was living in Brian's house while Brian stayed in a small apartment. He kept Brian on medications that damaged his brain way worse than the drugs of the 60's did (watch 80's Brian vs 90's Brian). Landy deserves all the hate he gets
u said it bro. Landy was an amusing dude. i luv the music he did w/ Brian. that whole era is fascinating. i have a promo cassette of Sweet Insanity : D
It's generally creepy to see Brian and Landy alongside each other in most interviews, but the clip at 8:25 is very telling in hindsight. Landy's talking about how normal and well-adjusted Brian has become, but Brian is silent, hunched over, trying to make himself small next to Landy who, at that time, was controlling him through fear, cruelty, and medication.
during this time brian looked more like his 1962 self than he did in 1965! Brian is one of those people whos look change extremely quickly by the slightest amount of weight gain.
I've always thought this too! From 1962 onwards he looks nothing like the photographs from Hawthorne High or his earlier childhood. Then again in 75-82 he didn't even resemble the 62-75 incarnation. Three relatively different looking facial structures. It wasn't until 87-92 did his facial structure resemble his youth again, his jawline became so defined again. He looked weirdly different again after 1992, for example if you watch him in the special with Mike Love or even the Don Was documentary. Around 1998- he became more defined again around the cheeks and jawline and to this day looks as you would have expected him to based on his Hawthorne High pictures.
@@SeahorsesJayyeah, weight gain can often affect people’s faces.
Brian Wilson is a national treasure.
More like international ahah
Brian looks so handsome here
David Leaf has it right - Brian, out of his pain, wants to heal listeners of their pain; a soul artist.
We will never know how much,or what effects Landy had on Brian's well being.
True, but Brian Wilson probably would have been dead before 1983 if it weren't for Eugene Landy's "milieu therapy.".
he was great for Brian's personal well-being. got him in the best shape of his life, fit and drug free. but he kept him from seeing anyone else, as well as drained his bank account of exorbitant amounts of money. he should have been his personal trainer and nothing else.
Holy crap I don't think this documentary can be any more 80s than this
Michelle Philips❤️
Yeah, she’s always been hot as hell.
Indeed, Michelle's one of the loveliest ladies in showbiz.
Wish i could have been born in that time still enjoy their music we will never have anybody that awsome again than the wilson brothers they were truly blessed.
Never going to hear such uplifting, beautiful harmonies like that again...
Wait a second, Susan… Whenever I see someone make this comment it makes me sad because existentially you were born at *just the right time* to enjoy this album whereas if you had been born back then, you never would have gotten to experience the album in its completion until 2004 and by then, Who knows what kind of person or where you’d be...!
One of the best post-1977 interviews I’ve seen from Brian. Very lucid.
Brian Wilson is so lovely
Brian was very coherent in this interview, and even said some little nuggets of brilliance. It's sad now knowing what was going on in the background during this era (Landy). But nonetheless, Brian Wilson is a fantastic album, even if Landy took way more credit for it than he deserved. Landy DID become more involved with Sweet Insanity, which is why it is a far inferior album and was never officially released. I have it and while it has some highlights, it's still a depressing listen for the most part.
That album is largely unlestenable to me. It's clear Brian didn;t produce it and other than "Love and Mercy" the songs are horrible. I may give it another listen but I doubt I'll change my mind.
Yeah, according to the movie, Landy put himself in Brian's last will and testament. Crazy times
@@Jeremy-th5ptI just watched that movie last night. I’m so glad Melinda came along into his life just in time.
I always listened to 60s rock & roll, and loved the music of James Taylor, but by far, Brian Wilson conveyed a sense of happiness in a midst of complicated issues while finding my way as a 12 yr old! It was like medicine & inspiration. Dont know if I ever found my way, but thank God 4 the Genious.
God Bless you Brian...
You earned my subscription. You really found some great stuff from some lost years everyone wants to know about. The Beach Boy music and drama of their story never gets old to me.
heck yea, wonderful footage!...best quote from Brian ever about his music giving us a spiritual covering
Thank you!
Brian wrote great songs in the 80..s
He gave us so much Joy.
His 1988 solo album is a gem!
Landy I regret to say probably saved the man though there was
Breakage done as well. Bri would be dead if not introducing
Brian to the late Melinda Ledbetter aka Brian's Renaissance lady. Loved her too. Met them both on pet sounds tour bus with Jeff Foskett.
Oh wow, thank for posting this. I recognize sections of the interview from the Words and Music promo Justin mentioned. But there's a lot of great footage here of Brian I've never seen. One thing is certain, he looked fantastic during these years! He was a good looking guy.
Love you Brian!
In 1981 I spoke to Brian Wilson for 20 minutes in his hotel room before a show: he was massively overweight and coked up but he was also completely lucid and clear-headed. He had complete recall of music he had recorded. Then I started to see interviews with Brian after he had spent a few years under Gene Landy's" care" and it was so sad and disappointing to me. Brian looked great which seemed to take the focus off the things he was trying to say and how he was saying them. He seemed more confused and damaged then when I spoke to him in 1981. I don't think he ever recovered from Landy's "care".
Love those piano parts in the background during the 'Rio Grande' section.. so reminiscent of 'Smile'
"I didn't want to hurt the Beach Boys' feelings....I would sacrifice my own thing for somebody else's feelings...I'm not exactly like that anymore." BEAUTIFUL!!! I LOVE hat statement.
Did cousin Mikey worry about your feelings, there, Brian? No, I don't think so.
Love and mercy to Brian.
Michelle Phillips is hot as hell.
Love U❤️, Brian !
I love Brian Wilson
My musical hero…. Period!
1:58 Brian... where is your shirt?
2:05 Brian! Where are your pants!?
Even though Landy extorted him, he did help physically improve him so well.
Landy didn't help him , he drugged him up so he could extort him and let everyone believe he was helping him. Landy was a con artist.
@@city2sb Brian weighed around 300 pounds before Landy showed up. He would've died from a heart attack or some other health Issue if nobody stepped in. I don't agree with everything that Landy did but He did save Brian Wilson's life by getting him to lose weight.
@@ludwigfan3013 people say this like Landy was the only human that could’ve helped Brian. There was plenty of therapists out there that could’ve saved Brian mentally and physically without drugging and extorting him.
@@ludwigfan3013 Other doctors could have gotten Brian Back to health without taking over his life. Also Pet Sounds and Smile were "Solo albums" because there was no way the other BB's, especially Mike could contribute anything other than performances. It was WAYYYY beyond them.
@@city2sb I hate Landy as much as any Brian fan...but he was the only one to get him to drop the life threatening weight gain...as far as drugs n booze, he did allow Brian to drink occasionally (there are pictures of them toasting with wine, and Brian's glass is filled to the top lol)and as for the drugs...yea he got him off the coke and other narcotics but he fed Brian all kinds of psychotropic drugs he wasn't licensed to prescribe. He was unethical, mentally and possibly physically abusive to Brian who was just always a fragile guy...he did ultimately save his life(cuz he would've had a heart attack between the food and all the coke he was doin) but he caused alot of psychological trauma to Brian as well. I had the privilege of seeing the man himself last Saturday with his band, Al and Blondie...they upgraded our seats cuz of a technical error they had... I was 50 ft from Brian... It was great and also kinda sad, he was using a walker and had a escort to his piano.. I don't think he played a note but boy did he give it his all vocally... I mean for 79 yrs old he still rocked !! And Al's son Matt...man he sings Brian's falsetto sooo damn good.
Brian was helped to an extent by Dr. Landy who was a psychologist and not a psychiatrist. Unfortunately, it appears from a distance that Dr. Landy became consumed by Brian’s celebrity and lifestyle and stayed far too long in the situation.. There is an old saying that someone can stay at the fair too long meaning you stay in a situation beyond it’s expiration date. It did not have to end badly with Brian Wilson for Dr. Landy but he has no one to blame but himself for how his relationship with Brian ended. I think Dr. Landy did do some good with Brian but he did not know when to wrap it up.
Landy helped Brian a lot early on, Brian was a mess, that part was good, then Eugene evolved into an extreme control phase realizing Brian would eventually move on. Landy milked him for as much money as he could before Brian got enough family and friend support to finally cut Landy loose. For all his intelligence, Eugene Landy succumbed to his own greed in the end.
Coda: Watched "Love & Mercy" (the movie) again just last night & realized all over AGAIN just how fortunate Brian was in finding his angel Melinda...
EVERYone knows the story& its still fun to read
@@joshuanewburger Not everyone.
I just watched Love and Mercy last night. It was a very good biopic. While Landy might have done a few good things for Brian in the beginning, he ultimately was going to destroy him and he went so far as to even have access to Brian’s estate should anything have happened to him.
I’m so glad his wife Melinda took action to get Landy away from him. Good for her. He she not done that, Brian would have died a long time ago.
Uh, it was Brian's brother Carl and their mother Audree that got Landy out of his life.
Because Melinda kept after them…
Brian in Malibu.
I see this time period, even Brian today to an extent, & so miss 60s (probably pre 68) Brian. The complete command & leadership he had, not even speaking to the music, just him as a brother, son, husband etc. His enormous, unparalleled talent has always come through, no matter the stage of his life. But I’ve rarely, if ever seen that Brian again. That Brian would’ve eaten Eugene Landy for breakfast, & that’s only if he could’ve been bothered with him at all
Who was Landy kidding with that absurd
pompadour flip ?
Lol !
“SMiLE” has become my favorite album. That’s not easy, you know? To actually name a “favorite album”? That’s like picking a favorite child. But I have: and it’s “SMiLE”.
* _Smile_
@Gabe W Wow, very rude.
The insistence of folks running things spelling it SMiLE every time is something that only began after like 2005. Look into any 60s or 70s literature on the subject. And the cover artwork, eh. Is your favorite Beach Boys song "GOOd VibrAtiONS GOOd VibrAtiONS GOOd VibrAtiONS"?
@@runnersdialzero1244I could understand you going on a rampage about the destruction of words like, genius, underrated, literally, etc. But really, an album title? It’s art. Is it really worth upsetting people over it?
Wow, alot of this footage was audio on the Words and Music promo I believe.
Whats scary is there's prolly a ton of footage working out on tape somewhere.
I want to go back in time, grab Landy by his atrocious mullet and slam his smug, sinister face into multiple objects (think Cliff Booth and the Manson girl in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood).
LOL!!!!
I was starting to enjoy it right when Gene Landy jumped in and started mouthing off about he saved Brian and he's such a great person and he's as talented as Brian like stfu "Dr LaNdY"
Man brian really changed after landy took full control over him. He sounds and behaves like a different person compared to when he was younger. Almost like a big kid. At it stuck til the present day.
Look at Brian's body language when Landy is with him (around 8:28). Tragic.
I noticed that too. He looks down and away.
Of course Landy has to be in the interview
I know Eugene Landy was a greedy narcissistic SOB but you got to give him credit for getting Brian his physical health back, however it's obvious that he was not qualified to prescribe him the psychotropic drugs he was taking.
The Michelle Phillips was still a real looker in 1988
She’s a very pretty lady
It's just VERY hard to watch this , knowing how Landy kept BW so over -medicated with the wrong medications . Landy needed to control Brian, so he-----Landy et al-------could continue to profit, & live the life of rock stars, without ever doing the hard work of learning instruments, composing, arranging , & Producing the music. Thank God his family finally intervened & put a stop to Landy..--------Finally ! --------------------MJL, 76 y/o
19:33 "The reward is the giving".
11:01 Never trust that hairdo
Under Landy's control or not, Brian seemed very clear and healthy here
That clip at 3:08... I can see David Marks and Carl W on the guitars and Al Jardine on bass. Where was Brian?
I believe that was during the time in 1963 when Brian stopped touring for a while.
8:27 Right...
1988-------------BW was fully under Engene Landy's control. -------------Sad----------looking at this now, it's hard to watch. It's clear, his mind was badly damaged due to all of his insane drug use. ----------he willingly , & knowingly destroyed his sweet, angelic voice , & that's tragic. -------------------------WolfSky9, 74 y/o
Ahhhhhh, Michelle . -----------she's now 76 y/o & looks it . Nothing to be ashamed of---------not at all. -------------We all look old, these days. ----------------------------------WolfSky9, 74 y/o
Good Vibrations at 5:29
Nah..that Landy was a true Con Artist..and this Master is Broken at this point. Like a Meissen Vase that shattered and has been glued back together again.
The person that he was was totally lost..just a very small portion remains.
How can you/one really know?
landy..... 🤣
dr landy, who's name is eugene e. landy lol
"I've never tried a rock opera before"
sMiLe has left the chat.
He destroyed the tapes lol
@@Freeway_Rollercoaster He never really destroyed them. Hence 2011's SMiLE Sessions
@@Openmindsnowclosed have you ever seen the A&E Biography on BW.. he said he destroyed all the Smile tapes lol. It’s bad memories for him
@@Freeway_Rollercoaster when his piece of crap cousin turned his band against him
Yeah
Bad memories
@@countof3everybodyOD yeah partly because he wanted to write lyrics about girls and cars
Michelle ! The Mamas & papas DID & sang -------at least 2 songs most worthy of the brilliance of " Pet Sounds " : 1. " Look Through My Window :" & -------and ---------- # 2: -" Dancing Bear " ---------Both are gorgeous , & worthy of the VERY best music of the 60's , & beyond. The Boys had Brian, but you had John Phillips, who, had he not destroyed himself with drugs, could have rivalled The Beach Boys & The Beatles, easily. EASILY. And the 2 aforementioned songs are proof . ------------------MJL, 76 y/o
John Phillips, who got his daughter pregnant…
Looking at Brian, it appears as though He had had a small stroke maybe?!?!
who knows, hes been talking out of one side of his mouth since his teenage years (maybe even earlier)
It’s because he’s deaf in one ear so he probably talks out of one ear to hear him self better
toNITE..onCRAZY AS CATSHIT
Brian is a genius but gosh he is a weird fella.
Brian looks fantastic at this time....pity Landy was bleeding the Beach Boys dry with his extotionate charges for keeping Brian good.
Someone should have sent Landy concentration camping !!
Losing that 130 lbs was a big deal. He could've easily infarcted
Landy saved Brian, he is still alive in 2023 because of Landy - Brian is outliving many of his contemporaries
Landy did a phenomenal job with Brian and Brian was never the same after Landy departed. Perhaps he violated some rules working with a client as far as business concerns but I think people trash him otherwise unnecessarily.
He had Brian change his will and leave him everything in it. He was living in Brian's house while Brian stayed in a small apartment. He kept Brian on medications that damaged his brain way worse than the drugs of the 60's did (watch 80's Brian vs 90's Brian). Landy deserves all the hate he gets
Talent attracts parasites
Terrible father
God rest Dr Landy's soul - may he rock in peace...
u said it bro. Landy was an amusing dude. i luv the music he did w/ Brian. that whole era is fascinating. i have a promo cassette of Sweet Insanity : D
He was an evil man
@@copperdog Landy, was the consummate JB !
I hate landy