I have a NOS tula transition from 2nd to 3rd gen. It has all the features of the 3rd gen but still has a flat bottom plate instead of the goal post plate.
Hello from Mother Russia) Here we have 7.62 bakelite red magazines in excellent condition for about $10 if you buy online from private sellers. And price can be lower depending on condition. This is because army went to 5.45 and this type of mags is actually retired from the army. But in military depots there are still a lot of them. By the way, brand new Saiga in 5.45 or 7.62 costs about $500 here. That's why i'm realy shocked about $150+ for AK mag.
@@NgJackal1990 ARs themselves are not as widespread in Russia as civilian AKs, mainly because of their price - like you can get 3 AKs by the prise of the cheapest domestic or chinese AR available. Therefore we have not a lot of surplus AR mags, like STANAGs , which could be cheaper than new ones. Fab Defence AR mags cost about $30. Magpul Pmag's price starts at $40. We also heve domestic mags manufacturer named PUFGUN - the best combination of price & quality in my opinion. Their AR mags cost from $13 to $23. I prefer to use their mags on my .223 Saiga MK rifle
Pretty cool. I just got what must be a transition mags from gen2 to gen3… it’s a short top non reinforced feed lips with a smooth base plate like your gen2. The base plates on your gen1 and gen2 are different.
So I got a bakelite 74 mag and the left and right sides are completely different colors, you can clearly see the change in colors when you look at the "spine" of the mag.It looks like they just took two different production sides and pressed them together. Also the ink stamps are clear. I'm wondering if you have ever seen a mag like this and if you have are they rare?
I just picked up about six bakelite mags from Carolina shooters supply they have a shit load as of today's date. I am waiting on 3 more. Quick question the mags are oily and have some cosmo in the springs on the inside. I was thinking about dipping them in mineral spirits for a few hours. I did that on some Chinese mags that were caked in cosmo and that worked well. I was wondering if dipping the bakelite nags in mineral spirits will damage the mag. Any comments from the peanut gallery. ?
Bruh.... yeah as stated that's not a 5.45 mag. Doesn't even look like a 5.45 mag. Look at that curve! Oh so nice! Too bad they're some of the rarest and fetch 300 to 400+ on GB right now as of May 2022. Probably why you assumed it was 5.45. Because you dont see them near as often.
Just purchased two Izhmash 7.62 bakelites from my go-to guy in my state who refinishes them. He found them on CRAIGSLIST of all places...lucky fucker. Anyway, they are out there, you just need to look in private sales. 👍
@Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County I don't mind at all, I like promoting his good work and helping grow his follower numbers. He also sells refinished wood grips for the AK pattern. @kalashbakes on Instagram. You can also follow @kalashnikov_store_official for direct, more consistent supply. He is Russian living in Russia, so his English is not perfect and shipping times will be longer than anything in the US due to customs checks and (from what he's said) the terrible Russian Postal system. However, he has basically constant supply of 5.45 and 7.62 mags, from Tula, Izhmash, and some occasional rare Molot 40rd 7.62 and 45rd 5.45 mags, two of which are shipping to me currently.
@Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County from what I have seen on the IG world of AK owners, particularly the Russian guy I mentioned, the supply is still there, we just have to be on top of it because they sell very quickly after being posted. That one Russian guy alone has hundreds, if not into the thousands, of bakelites that he has sold on Instagram. I think if you are serious about collecting them, making a profile would be a wise route to take. I have purchased seven already, much more luck there than any of the AK pages.
there are nearly half a million of these in the states and more are coming in the states than ever. they are not that rare. there will be a softer market for these in the future. how do I know? I work with customs and distributors
Fonzy Brookestone No because they would be incredibly expensive to make in the US because we dont have the know how or the proper equipment to make them and getting that and doing them right would be incredibly expensive.
I only have one bakelite, It has metal reinforcements, a triangle on the bottom side, the floor plate was different than all of yours, more like a standard com block style floorplate with ridges (i guess that is what you would call them), with the number 69 directly opposite of the triangle. what gen/kind of mag do I have? the last gen acrylic? I bought it about 5-6 months ago from either DKfirearms dot com when they had gotten a batch in, same time primary arms had some available. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ~J
The Pak made fakelite magazines are available for $10 a piece, both for 7.62 and 5.45, here in Pakistan. These might be good for collection, but not a kind of a 'go-to mag'. Springs are the main issue. Sometimes they won't take in more than 25 cartridges and most of the time feeding issues. Just bought a brand new Russian Izhmash bakelite mag for about US $70. Sorry can't ship it to the US 😁
This video was made 4 years ago and you were seeing Russian bakes for under $100 🤔. No way man. I was buying these years before that and you couldn't find them for under 1 bill. E German mags might have fetched that price back then 🤷♂️
pbstarkiller Hi, you want buy AK Bakelite Soviet mag (5.45 ;7.62) ? New mag and mag in good condition , 30 rd , 45 rd. It is possible to send from Ukraine to the U.S.
That was what pushed me into the AK initially @@philiphonaker7827. Ammo is dirt cheap and the Kalash dont give a shit how shitty the range ammo you feed her is! I do need to get another AR though.... I havent bought one in years.... Id probably go the retro route as i prefer irons.....
LOL! This is true! I enjoy the Wasr as an beater AK so much that i bought 2! LOL! The other thing that kept me rocking the kalash more than the AR was the sights. AR sights are great for target shooting but for gunfighting and combative classes the AK sights are far superior in my opinion. Provided you do the correct zero per caliber and lolipop your target. @@philiphonaker7827
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sooo you're the reason I can't find them...😥
Amen I hate DICK heads like that
It's like Colt Python buyers. They'll happily show off FOUR they bought that day, and they're ALL the same! Leave some for us!
Ha just bought my self five of them 🥴
I just want 1, I refused to pay $55 for them a while back and now everyone is either sold out or selling them for over $100 a peice, ludicrous.
🤣🤣
They make an AK look so beautiful.
I have a NOS tula transition from 2nd to 3rd gen. It has all the features of the 3rd gen but still has a flat bottom plate instead of the goal post plate.
Best breakdown on the bakelite mags ive come across. TY.
Hello from Mother Russia) Here we have 7.62 bakelite red magazines in excellent condition for about $10 if you buy online from private sellers. And price can be lower depending on condition. This is because army went to 5.45 and this type of mags is actually retired from the army. But in military depots there are still a lot of them. By the way, brand new Saiga in 5.45 or 7.62 costs about $500 here. That's why i'm realy shocked about $150+ for AK mag.
Where can I find one of these private sellers?
Can you be my private seller?
@@GunzNlakers sorry buddy but I'm not in this business. I am a simple saiga owner living in Russia
Yeah man, 100$+ for Bakelite akm mags, 120+ for slab mags, and 150+ for waffle mags. Please tell me ar-15 mags are expensive in russia? Lol
@@NgJackal1990 ARs themselves are not as widespread in Russia as civilian AKs, mainly because of their price - like you can get 3 AKs by the prise of the cheapest domestic or chinese AR available. Therefore we have not a lot of surplus AR mags, like STANAGs , which could be cheaper than new ones. Fab Defence AR mags cost about $30. Magpul Pmag's price starts at $40. We also heve domestic mags manufacturer named PUFGUN - the best combination of price & quality in my opinion. Their AR mags cost from $13 to $23. I prefer to use their mags on my .223 Saiga MK rifle
Great info, and nice collection , I’m a Ak mag collector myself, I’m definitely missing a few of those .. 😭.. lol
Angel Silver4Tseven do you keep your mags unloaded?
Excellent great info I'm a collector! Don't know why but I lovem
You should do an updated bake vid!
"Cyrillic" = suh-rill-ic
Pretty cool. I just got what must be a transition mags from gen2 to gen3… it’s a short top non reinforced feed lips with a smooth base plate like your gen2. The base plates on your gen1 and gen2 are different.
I just purchased two Izhmash bakelites from a guy in my state who refinishes them. Ooooh boy am I excited to get it on my M92 pap!
Thermo-reactive plastic AG-4S and AG-4V (термо-реактивная пластмасса АГ-4С и АГ-4В): bakelite + fiberglass.
Its a shame no one in the U.S. are making AK bakelite magazines.
11B Retired it would be incredibly expensive to make here since we don’t have the proper equipment and know how.
Great information, thank you.
If magpul made the M3 AK mag in that color they would blow up, and I know everyone would buy them
Thank you. Very educational and just the info I needed!
So I got a bakelite 74 mag and the left and right sides are completely different colors, you can clearly see the change in colors when you look at the "spine" of the mag.It looks like they just took two different production sides and pressed them together. Also the ink stamps are clear. I'm wondering if you have ever seen a mag like this and if you have are they rare?
Nice collection! Good info. Was failure of feed lips an issue on the 1st and 2nd gen? Do they break/wear easily?
Prices have gone up a little bit!! 😂
Just a bit lol
I just picked up about six bakelite mags from Carolina shooters supply they have a shit load as of today's date. I am waiting on 3 more. Quick question the mags are oily and have some cosmo in the springs on the inside. I was thinking about dipping them in mineral spirits for a few hours. I did that on some Chinese mags that were caked in cosmo and that worked well. I was wondering if dipping the bakelite nags in mineral spirits will damage the mag. Any comments from the peanut gallery. ?
You can delivery in others countries this magazine
Excellent info! Thanks for sharing.
what’s so special about these mags besides the looks of it? does it perform any better than regular mags? not a ak type so i’m curious.
also the rpk 545x39 magazine is a 45 round mag
Bruh.... yeah as stated that's not a 5.45 mag. Doesn't even look like a 5.45 mag. Look at that curve! Oh so nice! Too bad they're some of the rarest and fetch 300 to 400+ on GB right now as of May 2022. Probably why you assumed it was 5.45. Because you dont see them near as often.
@@MadMetalShop its a 5.56 mag clearly
@@KB-kw8ni um ok. But you'd be wrong so....
@@MadMetalShop its clearly a 5.45x46mm
I just want one :(
Awe shit now this guy got me balls deep in Bakelites again.
Primary Arms has 762 russian bakelites for 55 dollars as of 12.15.19
They did, but they jacked the price back up to $85. Fuck PA
Damn brother you hit the jack,pot I love those mags cheers
They are 80-100$ now.
$45 now
Sept 2020 - they're fetching $80+ per mag.
march 2021 - standard is $96
2019 - GunBroker $150...!!
it's crazy
Haha I just got 2 for $150 in really good good condition
It have the ink stamp by the Tula star
What are the more valuable ? Tula ?
thuggies drake damn two for 150 holy moly
Cries in 2022
I don’t think a TH-cam video has ever pissed me off this quickly. These things are sold out everywhere...and this dude has damn near 20. -_-
Just purchased two Izhmash 7.62 bakelites from my go-to guy in my state who refinishes them. He found them on CRAIGSLIST of all places...lucky fucker. Anyway, they are out there, you just need to look in private sales. 👍
@Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County I don't mind at all, I like promoting his good work and helping grow his follower numbers. He also sells refinished wood grips for the AK pattern. @kalashbakes on Instagram.
You can also follow @kalashnikov_store_official for direct, more consistent supply. He is Russian living in Russia, so his English is not perfect and shipping times will be longer than anything in the US due to customs checks and (from what he's said) the terrible Russian Postal system. However, he has basically constant supply of 5.45 and 7.62 mags, from Tula, Izhmash, and some occasional rare Molot 40rd 7.62 and 45rd 5.45 mags, two of which are shipping to me currently.
@Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County from what I have seen on the IG world of AK owners, particularly the Russian guy I mentioned, the supply is still there, we just have to be on top of it because they sell very quickly after being posted. That one Russian guy alone has hundreds, if not into the thousands, of bakelites that he has sold on Instagram. I think if you are serious about collecting them, making a profile would be a wise route to take. I have purchased seven already, much more luck there than any of the AK pages.
20 is nothing. There's dudes out there sittin on hundreds, and a few even have thousands stashed.
Sgammo and DK firearms has them brand new right now for under 50. Just got mine and they are perfect.
there are nearly half a million of these in the states and more are coming in the states than ever. they are not that rare. there will be a softer market for these in the future. how do I know? I work with customs and distributors
I cant find them anywhere !
same here, gunbroker has them for 80 each. the 35 dollar bakelite is finished.
Still waiting.......Only steel mags I can find for a decent price are Korean KCI and Croatian BHO mags. Anyone else know of different
When will this magical moment be occurring?
feel free to post a link to where these are readily available
Is anyone making NEW "bakelite" mags? Seems like a strong enough market out there wanting them.
Fonzy Brookestone you can paint mags orange and use wood finish to make a bunk ass fakelight pattern. Bakes are only like 60-80, just get one
Fonzy Brookestone No because they would be incredibly expensive to make in the US because we dont have the know how or the proper equipment to make them and getting that and doing them right would be incredibly expensive.
There are some new Korean fake lite mag, but they seem a bit flimsy.
I only have one bakelite, It has metal reinforcements, a triangle on the bottom side, the floor plate was different than all of yours, more like a standard com block style floorplate with ridges (i guess that is what you would call them), with the number 69 directly opposite of the triangle. what gen/kind of mag do I have? the last gen acrylic? I bought it about 5-6 months ago from either DKfirearms dot com when they had gotten a batch in, same time primary arms had some available. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ~J
You have an Izhmash/Izhevsk(Triangle) from mold 69. Also, your mag is most likely is a later gen Bake.
I need 40 rounder to complite collection
Try buying them in today’s market 😓😂
I need one 😂
Any more information the Pakistan ones ??
The Pak made fakelite magazines are available for $10 a piece, both for 7.62 and 5.45, here in Pakistan. These might be good for collection, but not a kind of a 'go-to mag'. Springs are the main issue. Sometimes they won't take in more than 25 cartridges and most of the time feeding issues. Just bought a brand new Russian Izhmash bakelite mag for about US $70. Sorry can't ship it to the US 😁
nice i scored a deal on my 1st bake mag
How much?
with shipping i paid 60$
This video was made 4 years ago and you were seeing Russian bakes for under $100 🤔. No way man. I was buying these years before that and you couldn't find them for under 1 bill. E German mags might have fetched that price back then 🤷♂️
theyll work on the 103 ya? dudes sittin on a gold mine of mags lol
Is it an iron magazine or a bone?
Azmat Khan what
@@Woodland_Warrior bro he is a troll or in a country that doesn't have these luxuries
50 to. 80 bucks a piece you do they math I have 3 and they cost 150 yea pretty pricey but it worth it 👌
Do you know of any generational differences between plum 5.45 mags?
Not really familiar with the 5.45 mags. Here is a good reference:
www.coolfx.us/ak/ak74_mag_guide_main.htm
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$65 to $75.....
Seems comical now
They're stupid money. $60 for a normal one is ridiculous.
That's 20 grand worth of Bakelite mags lol
$200
Any idea what years each generation was first made?
Not sure for each generation, but I know they started production of gen 1 around 1965.
pbstarkiller Hi, you want buy AK Bakelite Soviet mag (5.45 ;7.62) ? New mag and mag in good condition , 30 rd , 45 rd. It is possible to send from Ukraine to the U.S.
2000$ in mags
I have a lot bakes including the East Germans which are nice also. They are everywhere.
Where ?!?!
RockyTop1911 WHERE ?!!
Step 1: buy AR-15
Step 2:pay $7 per usgi mag
Step 3: spend the $50+ you saved(per mag) on ammo
Philip Honaker how much more range time do you think people that buy steel mags get?
That was what pushed me into the AK initially @@philiphonaker7827. Ammo is dirt cheap and the Kalash dont give a shit how shitty the range ammo you feed her is! I do need to get another AR though.... I havent bought one in years.... Id probably go the retro route as i prefer irons.....
LOL! This is true! I enjoy the Wasr as an beater AK so much that i bought 2! LOL! The other thing that kept me rocking the kalash more than the AR was the sights. AR sights are great for target shooting but for gunfighting and combative classes the AK sights are far superior in my opinion. Provided you do the correct zero per caliber and lolipop your target.
@@philiphonaker7827
Just stop being poor Samton
Ugly mag on an AK with no wood furniture.
Agreed if the furniture is black or tan or OD green, however they look right at home with plum furniture!
Plum is literally porn
Highly disagree. True black furniture and Bakelite looks amazing