Thanks. But I'll just stick to what the manufacturer asks from me. Warm it up, do 1 hour with 50% throttle, 1 hour with 75% throttle, change the oil, then ride like you stole it.
Yes they dyno but that does little on what we put these bikes thru. Do yourself a favor and use proper break in. Don't forget to break in suspension properly as well if you plan to use stock or upgrade.
@@pvclassic we always did break ins after rebuilds. But considering I heard this from a factory mechanic/engine builder who’s worked for factory KTM,Yamaha, Suzuki, building race motors I’ll listen to him. Not to say you should start the bike for the first time and hold it wide open. Be kind to it for a few, but heat cycles and break in procedures aren’t necessary. He mentioned they don’t do anything special to break in factory race motors. Ride it around the pit area and warm it up, but that’s about it. Since I’ve made this comment I’ve heard from a guy who designs and builds motors as a engineer. He parroted the same sentiment. Dont get wrapped around the axel with break ins. Follow the manual, but other than that it’s not worth stressing over. We always did a elaborate silly break in. (Just to give context to the perspective I grew up with and had).
For me it’s warm up, sight lap, standing lap, pegs all on lap, then it’s broken in pull off stretch and go back out and ride it the way it was made to wide open! 😂
All the brand new KTMS and Husqvarna’s come broken in from factory. They run them on a dyno before they ship them out. So do 1 heat cycle and then let her rip. Reason why ktm and husky ‘s new bikes are so sweet they come broken in
I'm pretty sure every manufacturer dyno's their bikes off the production line for quality control purposes. So yes, they've already been wrung out a bit before hitting the dealership floor.
I have a ktm 125 sx 2010 it’s just had a full engine rebuild what’s the best way to Run it in I’m riding it half throttle not letting bands in is that alright
sorry johnny , just watched a you tube video and you are wrong again!!!!! Don't feel bad my step dad was a mechanic. just full throttle bro and call paul thede's rave tech!
Getting a 250sxf 2019 this week.. Thanks alot for helping!, how about oil and oilfilter change?, after 1 hr? Or how about the suspension after 10hrs? Greetings from germany!
27tb I bought a brand new 2019 250SXF as well. Did the first oil change at 1.5 hours. Oil wasn’t black but had some shavings. So I’d say 1.5 -2 hours is good. That includes oil and filter.
just picked up my 24 250, guy told me to run like 3 heat cycles 15 minutes each and wait 7 hours at least in between every cycle then ride under 70% throttle for about 2-3 hours then pin it
I know as far as proper break in is concerned, i recently bought a brand new out board, 300 Suzuki, if u dont do a proper break in, and u run into issues down the road, Suzuki will not honor the 5 year warranty, they will read the APU to see how u did the break in, they are able to do that...... Yeah, outboards v dirt bikes, but with the electronics onboard these things these days, if the manufacturer wants a break in, i'll take the time to do it, it cant hurt....
I think "proper" break-in is a thing of the past since tolerances are so much better now. I ride new bikes hard but change the oil more frequently in the beginning to get rid of metal shavings from the new engine.
Is it as plush as it looks? It looks like you're riding on a farting pillow :D I would think you could just treat it like it's cold and ride it easy the first few days, slowly working the rpms higher. Always revving it ...
SERIOUS QUESTION: Is it normal for white smoke to emit from the exhaust with less than an hour total riding (Brand new straight out the dealer)? Is it the brand new oil lubing up a brand new engine? I have a 2020 YZ250F and no I’m not talking about condensation
I had exactly the same phenomenon on my kawasaki 250 2020, I made a topic about it. It's a manufacturing defect, all 2020 models are recalled in store to change the valve springs. thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1338428-video-brand-new-kawi-250-kxf-smoke-at-cold-start/?tab=comments#comment-15570413
I was taught after first two heat cycles to run the bike hard for next run to seet the rings effectively
Thanks. But I'll just stick to what the manufacturer asks from me. Warm it up, do 1 hour with 50% throttle, 1 hour with 75% throttle, change the oil, then ride like you stole it.
Yeah I think idling an engine is horrible on the moter,Jonny's OK though, best moto channel I've found.
Heard heat cycles are a waste, considering the factory always Dyno the motor before it ever leaves. Which means they run the piss out of it.
Yes they dyno but that does little on what we put these bikes thru. Do yourself a favor and use proper break in. Don't forget to break in suspension properly as well if you plan to use stock or upgrade.
@@pvclassic we always did break ins after rebuilds. But considering I heard this from a factory mechanic/engine builder who’s worked for factory KTM,Yamaha, Suzuki, building race motors I’ll listen to him.
Not to say you should start the bike for the first time and hold it wide open. Be kind to it for a few, but heat cycles and break in procedures aren’t necessary. He mentioned they don’t do anything special to break in factory race motors. Ride it around the pit area and warm it up, but that’s about it.
Since I’ve made this comment I’ve heard from a guy who designs and builds motors as a engineer. He parroted the same sentiment. Dont get wrapped around the axel with break ins. Follow the manual, but other than that it’s not worth stressing over.
We always did a elaborate silly break in. (Just to give context to the perspective I grew up with and had).
Thanks for the video! How long is the recommended cool-down between heat cycles?
hour
For me it’s warm up, sight lap, standing lap, pegs all on lap, then it’s broken in pull off stretch and go back out and ride it the way it was made to wide open! 😂
Thank you, this is very helpful.
Don’t let your bikes idle to long because it will create a vacuum chamber and it will burn the radiator fluid
Huh? 😂 ok
I don’t really make sure the spikes are tight I do the musical spoke test
Me too
Bike shops ARE NOT torqueing any bolts to specs!
Thanks for the info. Getting new bike, and torque wrench on my list.
Do I need to change the oil and filter after the first hour of break-in?
All the brand new KTMS and Husqvarna’s come broken in from factory. They run them on a dyno before they ship them out. So do 1 heat cycle and then let her rip. Reason why ktm and husky ‘s new bikes are so sweet they come broken in
I'm pretty sure every manufacturer dyno's their bikes off the production line for quality control purposes. So yes, they've already been wrung out a bit before hitting the dealership floor.
I have a ktm 125 sx 2010 it’s just had a full engine rebuild what’s the best way to
Run it in I’m riding it half throttle not letting bands in is that alright
will this method work on a pitbike?
Kinda need a T handle man. Little disappointed seeing the ratchet
They both work just ad well, i use ratchets because i prefer them. Its all personal preference dingdong
i did 3 cycles on my 2020
When should I do first oil change?
Right after you break it In
sorry johnny , just watched a you tube video and you are wrong again!!!!! Don't feel bad my step dad was a mechanic. just full throttle bro and call paul thede's rave tech!
Ok thanks
Getting a 250sxf 2019 this week..
Thanks alot for helping!, how about oil and oilfilter change?, after 1 hr?
Or how about the suspension after 10hrs?
Greetings from germany!
27tb I bought a brand new 2019 250SXF as well. Did the first oil change at 1.5 hours. Oil wasn’t black but had some shavings. So I’d say 1.5 -2 hours is good. That includes oil and filter.
pingpongplaya 19 need a rebuild if you see shavings
@@cxcre no lmao it’s a new bike
Read the damn owners manual.
just picked up my 24 250, guy told me to run like 3 heat cycles 15 minutes each and wait 7 hours at least in between every cycle then ride under 70% throttle for about 2-3 hours then pin it
Never change any bolts from the dealership they are torqued to the right nm with a torque wrench
Why such a loud into and so quiet on the video itself?
I know as far as proper break in is concerned, i recently bought a brand new out board, 300 Suzuki, if u dont do a proper break in, and u run into issues down the road, Suzuki will not honor the 5 year warranty, they will read the APU to see how u did the break in, they are able to do that...... Yeah, outboards v dirt bikes, but with the electronics onboard these things these days, if the manufacturer wants a break in, i'll take the time to do it, it cant hurt....
Breaking in a motor is more in depth than running a 3 lap practice, then sending it in the motos.
I think "proper" break-in is a thing of the past since tolerances are so much better now. I ride new bikes hard but change the oil more frequently in the beginning to get rid of metal shavings from the new engine.
lol what shavings?
@@kungfu2toe new engines create metal shavings from engine parts meshing together
@@JesseeS1990 that's a myth created by the same assholes that want to sell shit to you.Metal Shavings are created on a lathe!
Its still important though, it doesnt hurt if you do it properly
Shavings 😂
What's the bike?
Husky FC450
Is it as plush as it looks? It looks like you're riding on a farting pillow :D I would think you could just treat it like it's cold and ride it easy the first few days, slowly working the rpms higher. Always revving it ...
The owners manual literally says do not exceed 75% throttle for the first 5 hours.
Shit I did mine wrong already lol
You shouldt idle it that long, you can idle for a while but shit man, giver er a break
😂 it’s not a two stroke 😂
SERIOUS QUESTION: Is it normal for white smoke to emit from the exhaust with less than an hour total riding (Brand new straight out the dealer)? Is it the brand new oil lubing up a brand new engine? I have a 2020 YZ250F and no I’m not talking about condensation
Could only be new piston rings thats not weared in?
I had exactly the same phenomenon on my kawasaki 250 2020, I made a topic about it. It's a manufacturing defect, all 2020 models are recalled in store to change the valve springs. thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1338428-video-brand-new-kawi-250-kxf-smoke-at-cold-start/?tab=comments#comment-15570413