I used to work in aviation, and i remember watching a guy fly away from the overhaul shop that finished a major on his Beechcraft bonanza ( io-540). The shop owner who was standing next to me commented that there went an engine that would be back under warranty. When i asked why, his response was that the owner/pilot hadn't used full power on takeoff, probably thinking that he was babying the fresh engine. He then went on to explain the very same things about the relationship between cylinders, pistons, rings, thermal hardening and the break-in period that Ryan did, but without the benefit of video aids. Well done Ryan
Just remember that while that is true, it doesn't warm up and get all parts right. A short moment to get oil around the engine is fine (which is only about the time it takes to put on your helmet and gloves), then ride gently until the engine reaches operating temperature. That's generally enough time for grease and oil in all other moving parts (ones that may not get heat idling, but actually moving to get to a good running temp before giving the bike a bit more go.
I just figured break it in the range that I ride. Able to do traffic in city and a few twisty backroads home. All the range of speed is involved in my commute. With one perfect pull off road by a car rental place with markings on the ground for u turns practice. And year round riding with extreme heat vs cold. Had it 2 weeks and up to 289 miles already from 8 only when I bought. One oil change done, spark plug & fuel/air hoses changed from factory, getting ready for next round. It sat for a few before I got it, they never rode it ,ever..😢 so being super vigilant will help I hope. These videos are all very helpful and entertaining without being lame IMHO. I have learned a lot. Thank you, years later, it's still helping people.
Break in could also just be a wives tale. New bikes are dyno'd and put through the ringer before they get to the showroom floor. So if damage is done by that process then it's done before you buy a new bike!
Love and agree with the first advice... buy in Nov. I'm picking up my brand new Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2024) tomorrow Nov. 4. I called around to dealerships within a rideable range to get the best price. $5500 out the door... taxs title & tax included. No added fees. That's about $2300 below what most were wanting earlier in the year.
"Any experienced rider is inexperienced on a new bike", a true statement. I crashed my new bought Hayabusa in the first 1000km even though I ride motorcycles since 2007. I still own it: a unlimited 1999 model. It was a small crash but still... it was avoidable as a vast majority of crashes are. Of well! Take care out there!
Best representation of how to properly break in a new/rebuilt engine (mainly a stock or street engine) and why to do it that way. Of course race engines or blue-print builds are a little different. Tighter tolerances, types of rings, types of bearings, and even types of plated cylinder walls, cylinder hone,can change the break in procedure as well, but that's a whole different topic.
Everybody including the mechanics keep advising me to keep it under 4000rpm for 2 whole months .You are the only one who said otherwise and I trust you .Plus your visuals are amazing
Depends whether or not you trust the engineers that developed the engine, and the mechanics who fix the engine. Or some guy on youtube. I enjoy Ryan's videos, but his method isn't exactly scientific.
"...and so that anything that's going to break, will break under warranty." Now that advice is refreshing to hear coming from a company, that's why I respect and trust FortNine. You would never hear advice like that from most of the others in the industry, 👍 to Ryan (and the FortNine team) for keepin' it real.
Right on, It's a company for the people rather than the industry, in a world where it's so lucrative and tempting to betray your own and be swayed their way
Its unfortunate that the experience isn't universally shared. Ryan makes fantastic content. Fortnine customer service however, encourages people to go to their local brick and mortar to try on equipment and clothing first when you are going to buy something Fortnine has on sale. They don't do exchanges so if you want it for a price, you either buy multiple sizes and return everything or you have to try it on.
@@Aenslaei so nice to be living in the EU. ANYTHING you fucking buy apart from food can be returned to the store within two weeks, no questiones asked. EU policy against scumbag companies
@@Darkest_Soul_187 Can't speak for the whole EU, but in Germany the legal regulations for returning goods are part of the Fernabsatzgesetz (mail order law?), so they apply only for stuff you buy online or by mail order. There is no law about returning goods in real (brick & mortar) stores so any "right" of returning goods in these stores is a voluntary service of the shop.
Many years back I went from a Yamaha XJ650 to.a Fireblade, which I had to pick up in the middle of Barcelona at 11am... that was an interesting experience to say the least, 3 changes of underwear were needed to get home, jeez that Blade was fast!
Interestingly enough my brand new Yamaha Bolt owner’s manual described almost the very same break-in… varying RPM, don’t lug the engine and don’t go for sustained high rpm rides (highway). FortNine’s videos are always spot on. I would think the manufacturers know how to break in the bike so the customer gets a longer, lower maintenance life from their product.
Excellent video. I broke in my bike this summer and the service mgr told me to ride my new bike like I normally would. That is, 1/4 throttle, 1/2 throttle, 3/4 throttle, and full throttle in every gear with multiple stops. I varied between road and highway so I had to make stops at traffic lights. I made stops to tap up on gasoline and for dinner. The main thing is not to ride at a constant speed in one gear.
FINALLY I hear something that makes SENSE, thanks for this men, Ive broke in 3 bikes so far and I was never sure if I had to take it gently or savagely on the engine. This is the most sober advice, and I know it'll help a lot.
Brave guy taking on such a controversial topic. I totally agree and have followed that same strategy with cars for years- never had any excessive oil use until over 100k miles. Good advice and easy to understand. I respect your opinions because you have much more experience than me, and seem to be thoughtful about every topic I’ve watched. Thanks!!
Ive been breaking in my bike this way without even knowing this was the correct way to break in the engine. See its my first bike and its not a slow one so im slowly learning and getting used to the bike. I take it out on the town streets and go from light to light then climb up on the highway for a few miles while dropping the hammer as i enter the hwy. Then i exit the hwy and come back towards town and do some sprints on the lonely service road with no traffic. After 30 min or so i come home with a big smile on my face and call it the day.
I was a bit concerned about the break in period, but I've actually been doing all of this with my new bike by accident. I've only put a little over 200 miles on it so far and I've been cruising between 35 and 50, taking off in the straights and hitting a few twisties before either stopping to grab a soda or something to eat for 10-15 minutes.
Great advice! Just got myself a brand new Honda nc750x, I've had bikes for 10 years and this is my first new one, thanks for the advice on breaking the new beast in! You always make quality watchable and relatable videos! Cheers from Ireland, Claire 👌😊
This is by far the best video and best information I have heard on this topic. It seems there are many people at both extreme ends of the spectrum on how you should break-in a motorcycle, but this video does a great job of splitting the difference. It explains a few things that I don't hear touched on very much and does a great job turning that into a logical and compelling argument for proper break-in (as well as making good, well informed points on what constitutes improper break-in!)
Did a medium break in to my brand new 2019 CB1000-R. After 600 miles i did an oil change with Castrol Actevo 10w30 & Honda OEM filter. Flushed the Coolant and replaced it with Engine ice. After the odo jacked up 10,000 miles i am Using Motul 7100 4T 10W40 with K&N 204 filters. I fill up with Octane 87 Non ethanol Fuel & always add an ounce of StarTron fuel treatment. The scope of the story is: What you feed your baby will make it Healthy down the Road. When you have a baby and feed him/her quality organic raw foods he/she will live healthy, disease free and graceful 😇
Still can't believe how high quality these videos are, glad I found your channel and am incredibly surprised at how small your subscriber base is. Cheers for all the videos!
Rewatching this now it s amazing to see that even 6 years ago the quality of this channel, on photography and contents was hugely high. 6 years..damm time goes fast. Thank u Ryan!
I always get mad when I notice how low your views are when compared to other channels who provide shitty content... The amount of work put into each video looks huge. Keep it up, you will get a fair recognition some day!
Currently, this video has 1.8 million views and the channel 1.98 million subscribers. Kinda cool 6 years ago when you made this comment to where the channel is now. -June 2024-
Hey, mechanic here. I beat the piss out of it to break in a new engine. Works great every time. The being gentle for however many miles is a myth at this point.
I simply love this channel. It always covers up all posibilities and thoughts without being afraid to trigger someone.Also time flys by while watching your videos, cause they are just so entertaining. Huge respect guys, excellent quality, amazing presentation and valid opinions. Love from east Europe. P.S. Sorry for any mistakes, my english are not the best.
Just go out and ride it like a normal motorcycle and you'll be fine. As long as you don't lug or over rev the engine, you'll do just fine. Most new owners don't jump on their new bike and take a weekend trip on it (Normal people) so just do your daily ride and put the bike away until the next day, and it will get broke in, in a couple weeks depending on mileage. I've done it this way with all my new bikes, and none have used oil or had blowby when I pulled the dipstick while it was running. It's not rocker science.
This this exact thing with tuono 660 yesterday, and it invited a few coolant drops out to see who’s the insane guy buying italian motorcycle 😂 glad I didn’t baby it because it would have happened 2 days later very far and very expensively away from dealership. Thank you 👍
From an automotive engineer and test driver perspective, you said 4 wrong things according to my experience testing vehicles. First: dont EVER let your engine idle for more than 2min, let alone 5 and let alone a brand new engine. An idling engine does not create oil pressure, and when an engine is running on low oil pressures, it creates heat spots. Now imagine the "heat spot" a brand new engine will create at the tight rings idling for 5 minutes in a cold day. Second: buying in november. Preferably you never want to break in an engine in cold moisty weather, like the one in the video. The (slight) condensation spots that is created within the parts can cause either overheating and/or overcooling and crack materials with different heat expansion rates. Third. Dont do figure 8s to wear in tires. Tires wear-in with temperature, pressure and inertia. One should pump the up the pressure a little more than you would usually ride with and just go out on a sunny day and ride some speeds, hard breaking and corners. Dont worry tires now a days arent "waxed" anymore, you wont crash on a sunny dry weather. And the tire needs that higher speed inertia to sit the wires properly in place. Fourth. What you do NOT want to do when breaking in a new engine is the constant "on and off/hot and cold" cycles like you mentioned. A new engine still needs to "sit and fit" all its components, and that wont happen properly if you constantly let the engine components heat and cool all the time, because different materials and parts sizes/shapes have different heat expansion rates, and if you keep messing around with those expansion rates by heating and cooling it all the time, you might create scratches or even cracks. Theoretically the best way to break in a motorized vehicle is to turn it on and run it with smooth throttle (never full throttle) across all rpms and gears for a veeeeeery long time. Hours. Hundreds of km/miles. And after the first oil change you really shouldnt bother anymore....oh, and preferably you should break in an engine using the best possible quality gasoline you can find, that helps the spark plug, valves, rings, injectors and exhaust/cat to break in properly as well..
...cold days also impact the mentioned heat expansion rates. A very cold engine metal is a lot more "compacted/contracted" in a cold day than a hot day, and expanding that material all the way up to working temperatures might create cracks or scratches. About the low oil pressure thing on point number one: to understand more the theorie behind oil pressures, please watch a "cold day idling" video from a channel called Engineering Explained. That dude explains very simply why idling for 5min is a bad idea. Also, believe it or not, some lab testing we performed at the university showed that, even from dead cold, a piston hardly ever takes more than 20-40seconds to be at working temps. (Gasoline high comp engine; this result does not apply for turbo or diesel engines).
I would still argue that there's more to it than just fuel wash and heat spots in the cylinder. There's also the simple fact that until the engine is warm, nothing fits right. There'll be play, and play is bad. Letting it idle longer allows the heat to permeate the block and things can expand to a more reasonable fit. Bear in mind I'm no expert, but that's how I see it. I'll continue to idle my car for 10 minutes before leaving for work for now.
Just got my first new serious bike in november - gotta say it's a very pleasant feeling, when you know that nobody sat on this thing, nobody raped the engine, and, needless to say - it's worth to buy a new bike just to peal off that protective film off of the brand new dash.
@@nathanielyoungman4454 it's the best thing that ever happened to me. I've put 20,300 km on it so far and my favourite thing in the world to do is ride my bike. I even started a gang called the delightful strangers 😂, there's five of us so far
It's not a time lapse. He just jumped 4 times with different outfits, shot with a high fps, try to recreate the previous jumps using the same path and speed, right cutting at the right time, and then stitched the videos to create an almost flawless sequence. Edit: Had to edit my grammar in case another grammar Nazi comes. My grammar was f'd up because I wrote it while drunk during liquor ban and English is my 2nd language.
The factory has usually test ran your new bike on their dyno. I think they may bring it up to redline without a lot of RPM varying. It does get a very long cool down cycle.
A few years back, I rented a CBR500F from CLASS for a couple of track days. When I got on the bike, it had under 2 miles on it. I asked about breaking it in, and Reg Pridmore (the guy who runs CLASS) told me, to paraphrase, that I should "ride it now like you want to ride it later". I bevelled the footpegs and ran it like it owed me money.
Very good points. To each his own for sure. Reason I love used is I switch out a lot of parts anyway to customize the vehicle and I enjoy working and learning on them.
Asad Siraj yea if you are going to do that , then I do understand you. I think if a motorcycle is not good enough stock, then its not worth buying. But thats just me. At least we both love working on our motorcycles!
Daniel B i can see that with off road bikes but I'm looking for a more street oriented bike as my next bike. Oh my profile pic? Man I need to update that. I was planning on getting that as my first bike but I ended up getting a 01 ninja 500r!
Stephen Hartley Brundrett hear you man. Also there are some bikes that are very special like the 05 06 gsxr 1000. I bought my dream project bike being the 05 R1 when they had great horsepower for a fraction of what its worth.
I got a good kick out of the "Evils of Capitalism" and other contentious topics section. I dig this a bit more than the full-on skits becuase it's funny while still being an informative format. But, literally everyone else seems to dig the skits and I won't lie and say that they aren't imaginative and well done. 'Cause they are, especially the Bill Nye themed invisible riding one. Also, WOW, I did not know anything about the piston/piston wall thing, and the sandpaper analogy is great like Lawrence said. That's incredibly informative, I'll have to keep that in mind.
You are right. I have been in the auto industry for more than 30 years involved in Product Engineering of gears and axles. Bearings and gears don´t like high speed or load when new. We do break-in cycles on dynamometers always before testing or you WILL get premature failures with bearings galling and gears scuffing or pitting. Break-in should be low to medium load cycles, up and down for first few hours.... NEVER lug it or rev it to redline when new if you want a long lasting gear-train. Then again, you don´t need to die of boredom when breaking it a motorcycle. Figure half throttle and short shifting for first few hundred miles...
New to motorcycling and motorcycling interest. And your videos Ryan, are staggeringly awesome. Crisp, informative, not lengthy, and word efficient. Simply phenomenal.
I'm so dumb. I literally sat here waiting for him to bring up "how to brake in your new motorcycle" lol I didn't realize the title said "BREAK" not "BRAKE" 🤭
Saw another vlogger with a brand new big CU build Harley road glide. He took this new bike out with less than 5 miles on the motor and beat the hell out of it. Guess what? It broke rather spectacularly. I may not be 100% right but breaking in a new bike will help with longevity. PS and taking it easy at first on a bike is a great way to really get a feel for the bike too.
I used to work in aviation, and i remember watching a guy fly away from the overhaul shop that finished a major on his Beechcraft bonanza ( io-540). The shop owner who was standing next to me commented that there went an engine that would be back under warranty. When i asked why, his response was that the owner/pilot hadn't used full power on takeoff, probably thinking that he was babying the fresh engine. He then went on to explain the very same things about the relationship between cylinders, pistons, rings, thermal hardening and the break-in period that Ryan did, but without the benefit of video aids. Well done Ryan
finished a major what
@@debaronAZK major work, you numbnut...
@@debaronAZK a major overhaul
@@ok0_0 duhh
@ImTheCVL computer viruses. 😅
Clear as mud 👍 thanks
"It moves oil to the oily partsof the engine." That's the kind of sage advice I subscribe for.
Was that advice, or an observation?
@@samshambles391 it's part of the get the engine running advice, that being to run the engine for a bit to get oil to all the oily bits
With F9, it's all about the attention to detail that makes this the best motorcycle channel going...Atticus Finch's court file...outstanding 🙌
Just remember that while that is true, it doesn't warm up and get all parts right. A short moment to get oil around the engine is fine (which is only about the time it takes to put on your helmet and gloves), then ride gently until the engine reaches operating temperature. That's generally enough time for grease and oil in all other moving parts (ones that may not get heat idling, but actually moving to get to a good running temp before giving the bike a bit more go.
These videos age like fine wine
I just figured break it in the range that I ride. Able to do traffic in city and a few twisty backroads home. All the range of speed is involved in my commute. With one perfect pull off road by a car rental place with markings on the ground for u turns practice. And year round riding with extreme heat vs cold. Had it 2 weeks and up to 289 miles already from 8 only when I bought. One oil change done, spark plug & fuel/air hoses changed from factory, getting ready for next round. It sat for a few before I got it, they never rode it ,ever..😢 so being super vigilant will help I hope. These videos are all very helpful and entertaining without being lame IMHO. I have learned a lot. Thank you, years later, it's still helping people.
Break in could also just be a wives tale. New bikes are dyno'd and put through the ringer before they get to the showroom floor. So if damage is done by that process then it's done before you buy a new bike!
Finally, someone talking sense on the subject! This is how I've been telling folks to break in a bike for ages and almost always get looks of disdain.
Love and agree with the first advice... buy in Nov. I'm picking up my brand new Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2024) tomorrow Nov. 4. I called around to dealerships within a rideable range to get the best price. $5500 out the door... taxs title & tax included. No added fees. That's about $2300 below what most were wanting earlier in the year.
"Any experienced rider is inexperienced on a new bike", a true statement. I crashed my new bought Hayabusa in the first 1000km even though I ride motorcycles since 2007. I still own it: a unlimited 1999 model. It was a small crash but still... it was avoidable as a vast majority of crashes are. Of well! Take care out there!
Thank you for the instruction!!! Would you consider coming to Wisconsin and breaking in my new harley??? Answered so many questions I had.
The sand paper metaphor was very artistic. You don't get that kind of creativity from moto-vlogers.
Best representation of how to properly break in a new/rebuilt engine (mainly a stock or street engine) and why to do it that way. Of course race engines or blue-print builds are a little different. Tighter tolerances, types of rings, types of bearings, and even types of plated cylinder walls, cylinder hone,can change the break in procedure as well, but that's a whole different topic.
Right now in 2020 There are to many cinematic moto vloggers.
@@ajinkyathorat7502 Really? can count them on one hand.
@@ajinkyathorat7502 Fortnine. Schaaf. ...???? Who else? And i think they're both brilliant.
Ryan is in a class of his own.
I love this guys sense of humor
Everybody including the mechanics keep advising me to keep it under 4000rpm for 2 whole months .You are the only one who said otherwise and I trust you .Plus your visuals are amazing
Same man. Got a ninja300 a month back and have been limiting myself to 4k. Now I'm confused whose advice to follow
I suggest you follow fortnine's advice even though I'm not sure about riding at high rpm for 10 minutes since mine is a cafe racer
Ninja probably won't have much issues
Depends whether or not you trust the engineers that developed the engine, and the mechanics who fix the engine. Or some guy on youtube. I enjoy Ryan's videos, but his method isn't exactly scientific.
This goes against triumph recommend break in. I love it.
Your story telling , cinematography and editing is just so eagering to just keep watching your videos
Eagering is not a word. Earnest would be more appropriate.
I feel like it's a little too much.
‘Engaging’ would be the appropriate choice.
He is not doing it alone. It is a whole production team.
BMW s1000rr
Yez !! The mini interludes.. se tre bon..qui Hella good!
"...and so that anything that's going to break, will break under warranty."
Now that advice is refreshing to hear coming from a company, that's why I respect and trust FortNine. You would never hear advice like that from most of the others in the industry, 👍 to Ryan (and the FortNine team) for keepin' it real.
Right on, It's a company for the people rather than the industry, in a world where it's so lucrative and tempting to betray your own and be swayed their way
Its unfortunate that the experience isn't universally shared. Ryan makes fantastic content. Fortnine customer service however, encourages people to go to their local brick and mortar to try on equipment and clothing first when you are going to buy something Fortnine has on sale. They don't do exchanges so if you want it for a price, you either buy multiple sizes and return everything or you have to try it on.
Aenslaei They do exchange for about $7. Small price to pay. FWIW though, I've always bought helmets at local shops at better prices than Fortnine.
@@Aenslaei so nice to be living in the EU. ANYTHING you fucking buy apart from food can be returned to the store within two weeks, no questiones asked. EU policy against scumbag companies
@@Darkest_Soul_187 Can't speak for the whole EU, but in Germany the legal regulations for returning goods are part of the Fernabsatzgesetz (mail order law?), so they apply only for stuff you buy online or by mail order. There is no law about returning goods in real (brick & mortar) stores so any "right" of returning goods in these stores is a voluntary service of the shop.
Many years back I went from a Yamaha XJ650 to.a Fireblade, which I had to pick up in the middle of Barcelona at 11am... that was an interesting experience to say the least, 3 changes of underwear were needed to get home, jeez that Blade was fast!
Interestingly enough my brand new Yamaha Bolt owner’s manual described almost the very same break-in… varying RPM, don’t lug the engine and don’t go for sustained high rpm rides (highway). FortNine’s videos are always spot on. I would think the manufacturers know how to break in the bike so the customer gets a longer, lower maintenance life from their product.
One of the few guys to buy a used bike from 👌♥️it’s like yoga. Streeetch and relaxxxx
Excellent video. I broke in my bike this summer and the service mgr told me to ride my new bike like I normally would. That is, 1/4 throttle, 1/2 throttle, 3/4 throttle, and full throttle in every gear with multiple stops. I varied between road and highway so I had to make stops at traffic lights. I made stops to tap up on gasoline and for dinner. The main thing is not to ride at a constant speed in one gear.
This is what I did. Works Great!
6yrs later still good advice 👍
FINALLY I hear something that makes SENSE, thanks for this men, Ive broke in 3 bikes so far and I was never sure if I had to take it gently or savagely on the engine. This is the most sober advice, and I know it'll help a lot.
Too late to watching, but his contents, and presentation is just awesome 👌👌👌👌
Brave guy taking on such a controversial topic. I totally agree and have followed that same strategy with cars for years- never had any excessive oil use until over 100k miles. Good advice and easy to understand. I respect your opinions because you have much more experience than me, and seem to be thoughtful about every topic I’ve watched. Thanks!!
100k, as in KILOMETERS I'm hoping :)
This is the best channels because of this guy
Ive been breaking in my bike this way without even knowing this was the correct way to break in the engine.
See its my first bike and its not a slow one so im slowly learning and getting used to the bike.
I take it out on the town streets and go from light to light then climb up on the highway for a few miles while dropping the hammer as i enter the hwy.
Then i exit the hwy and come back towards town and do some sprints on the lonely service road with no traffic.
After 30 min or so i come home with a big smile on my face and call it the day.
5:53 great shot
I was a bit concerned about the break in period, but I've actually been doing all of this with my new bike by accident. I've only put a little over 200 miles on it so far and I've been cruising between 35 and 50, taking off in the straights and hitting a few twisties before either stopping to grab a soda or something to eat for 10-15 minutes.
Best break in video I have ever seen
Great advice! Just got myself a brand new Honda nc750x, I've had bikes for 10 years and this is my first new one, thanks for the advice on breaking the new beast in! You always make quality watchable and relatable videos! Cheers from Ireland, Claire 👌😊
How has it treated you?
This guys the best in the business
I have to hand it to ya man you really make some quality videos. Keep up the great work brother!
500th like 🥳
Is it him making the videos or is he just the figure head for Fortnine?
@@mattsupertramp6506 as far as I know it’s pretty much him and one other bloke.
Look, it's the guy who pimp his girl on yt
@@MrNicklasson87 he has a team but what a personality
I JUST GOT A SCRAMBLER 1200!!
I'm super hyped to she what she can do.
This is by far the best video and best information I have heard on this topic. It seems there are many people at both extreme ends of the spectrum on how you should break-in a motorcycle, but this video does a great job of splitting the difference. It explains a few things that I don't hear touched on very much and does a great job turning that into a logical and compelling argument for proper break-in (as well as making good, well informed points on what constitutes improper break-in!)
The middle way is probably the right way, stick below 50% revs for at least a few hundred miles without lugging the engine.
@@chrissmith2114 So is it best to usually go at 3-4k rpms and occasionally go higher revs so that the engine gets all the 'feels' ?
Did a medium break in to my brand new 2019 CB1000-R. After 600 miles i did an oil change with Castrol Actevo 10w30 & Honda OEM filter. Flushed the Coolant and replaced it with Engine ice. After the odo jacked up 10,000 miles i am Using Motul 7100 4T 10W40 with K&N 204 filters. I fill up with Octane 87 Non ethanol Fuel & always add an ounce of StarTron fuel treatment. The scope of the story is: What you feed your baby will make it Healthy down the Road. When you have a baby and feed him/her quality organic raw foods he/she will live healthy, disease free and graceful 😇
Still can't believe how high quality these videos are, glad I found your channel and am incredibly surprised at how small your subscriber base is. Cheers for all the videos!
Not like im ever gone have this problem because i buy used but still watching for the sake of watching him 😂 something about him calms me.
Exactly how I did the engine break in on my last two motorcycles. Finally someone did a balanced video on this :-) thanks Ryan!
Tho for how long do you break in??
@@BusinessRooster id say 600 miles which is usually the first oil change
@@BusinessRooster depends on bike, Im breaking in 2 strokes for like 300km
Great instructional video! This is exactly what I was looking for. 💪🙂
Just discovered this channel last week and is easily already one of my favorite channels.
Rewatching this now it s amazing to see that even 6 years ago the quality of this channel, on photography and contents was hugely high. 6 years..damm time goes fast. Thank u Ryan!
I always get mad when I notice how low your views are when compared to other channels who provide shitty content... The amount of work put into each video looks huge. Keep it up, you will get a fair recognition some day!
It's bearing fruit
Currently, this video has 1.8 million views and the channel 1.98 million subscribers. Kinda cool 6 years ago when you made this comment to where the channel is now. -June 2024-
Facts!
I really do love this channel.
"... and anything that will break, will break under warranty." That cracked me up, great closing statement!
Hey, mechanic here. I beat the piss out of it to break in a new engine. Works great every time. The being gentle for however many miles is a myth at this point.
I just bought my fourth bike (2019 ZZR 1400) and I'm glad someone finally talks sense. You get a subscribe!
Per the manual that came with my new Suzuki DR-Z400, they agree completely with you.
Can you show us how to un-break an old motorcycle? Thanks.
meme master 69 just put new shit on until she’s not hurt
🤣🤣🤣
The last line made me chuckle.
I simply love this channel. It always covers up all posibilities and thoughts without being afraid to trigger someone.Also time flys by while watching your videos, cause they are just so entertaining. Huge respect guys, excellent quality, amazing presentation and valid opinions.
Love from east Europe.
P.S. Sorry for any mistakes, my english are not the best.
Just go out and ride it like a normal motorcycle and you'll be fine. As long as you don't lug or over rev the engine, you'll do just fine. Most new owners don't jump on their new bike and take a weekend trip on it (Normal people) so just do your daily ride and put the bike away until the next day, and it will get broke in, in a couple weeks depending on mileage. I've done it this way with all my new bikes, and none have used oil or had blowby when I pulled the dipstick while it was running. It's not rocker science.
I think I will my first NEW motorcycle in 2 or 3 Years. Tomorrow I'll get a Yamaha YBR 125 Custom! I love it!
Wow. This guy is fucking awesome. Where has he been my whole life?
It’s nice to watch these videos after watching cyclecruza videos...
Lets go for a RIIIIIIIDe!
On ma cbr one thousand double ahrgggg...
I had to unsub him. Not sure if it was the click bait titles or that he recommended a smith machine for solo workouts.
Planet Matt LOL the dude’s a trip
BWX If you're 12 and never ridden a bike before, yeah. Otherwise, he's a big phonie
This this exact thing with tuono 660 yesterday, and it invited a few coolant drops out to see who’s the insane guy buying italian motorcycle 😂 glad I didn’t baby it because it would have happened 2 days later very far and very expensively away from dealership. Thank you 👍
From an automotive engineer and test driver perspective, you said 4 wrong things according to my experience testing vehicles. First: dont EVER let your engine idle for more than 2min, let alone 5 and let alone a brand new engine. An idling engine does not create oil pressure, and when an engine is running on low oil pressures, it creates heat spots. Now imagine the "heat spot" a brand new engine will create at the tight rings idling for 5 minutes in a cold day. Second: buying in november. Preferably you never want to break in an engine in cold moisty weather, like the one in the video. The (slight) condensation spots that is created within the parts can cause either overheating and/or overcooling and crack materials with different heat expansion rates. Third. Dont do figure 8s to wear in tires. Tires wear-in with temperature, pressure and inertia. One should pump the up the pressure a little more than you would usually ride with and just go out on a sunny day and ride some speeds, hard breaking and corners. Dont worry tires now a days arent "waxed" anymore, you wont crash on a sunny dry weather. And the tire needs that higher speed inertia to sit the wires properly in place. Fourth. What you do NOT want to do when breaking in a new engine is the constant "on and off/hot and cold" cycles like you mentioned. A new engine still needs to "sit and fit" all its components, and that wont happen properly if you constantly let the engine components heat and cool all the time, because different materials and parts sizes/shapes have different heat expansion rates, and if you keep messing around with those expansion rates by heating and cooling it all the time, you might create scratches or even cracks. Theoretically the best way to break in a motorized vehicle is to turn it on and run it with smooth throttle (never full throttle) across all rpms and gears for a veeeeeery long time. Hours. Hundreds of km/miles. And after the first oil change you really shouldnt bother anymore....oh, and preferably you should break in an engine using the best possible quality gasoline you can find, that helps the spark plug, valves, rings, injectors and exhaust/cat to break in properly as well..
...cold days also impact the mentioned heat expansion rates. A very cold engine metal is a lot more "compacted/contracted" in a cold day than a hot day, and expanding that material all the way up to working temperatures might create cracks or scratches. About the low oil pressure thing on point number one: to understand more the theorie behind oil pressures, please watch a "cold day idling" video from a channel called Engineering Explained. That dude explains very simply why idling for 5min is a bad idea. Also, believe it or not, some lab testing we performed at the university showed that, even from dead cold, a piston hardly ever takes more than 20-40seconds to be at working temps. (Gasoline high comp engine; this result does not apply for turbo or diesel engines).
Well put.... I will put that in mind 👍
Good stuff
Basically, do nothing what the video said.
I would still argue that there's more to it than just fuel wash and heat spots in the cylinder. There's also the simple fact that until the engine is warm, nothing fits right. There'll be play, and play is bad. Letting it idle longer allows the heat to permeate the block and things can expand to a more reasonable fit. Bear in mind I'm no expert, but that's how I see it. I'll continue to idle my car for 10 minutes before leaving for work for now.
Love your show
Para los que hablamos español, "braking period" sería el periodo de asentamiento o "despegue", ¿sí?
Magical voice, Great.
One day I'll get a new motorcycle. One day.....
vzda123 don't do it! It is addictive once you do
Just got my first new serious bike in november - gotta say it's a very pleasant feeling, when you know that nobody sat on this thing, nobody raped the engine, and, needless to say - it's worth to buy a new bike just to peal off that protective film off of the brand new dash.
Сергей Метельский 👍🏽😎 virgins...
Hope you get it already
One day usually means never 😐
very well put thank you!!
This is motorcycle Top Gear, I love it.
Excellent advice!
Great vid, I'm picking up my first new bike tomorrow and I'm a bundle of nerves and anticipation. This gives me some things to focus on 🤙
How is it a year later?
@@nathanielyoungman4454 it's the best thing that ever happened to me. I've put 20,300 km on it so far and my favourite thing in the world to do is ride my bike. I even started a gang called the delightful strangers 😂, there's five of us so far
At last a very good detail explanation!! thanks for the video
5:53 Holy cow! how many shots did that timelapse took? !!!
Amazing job, pure quality content in this channel, love it !
It's not a time lapse. He just jumped 4 times with different outfits, shot with a high fps, try to recreate the previous jumps using the same path and speed, right cutting at the right time, and then stitched the videos to create an almost flawless sequence.
Edit: Had to edit my grammar in case another grammar Nazi comes. My grammar was f'd up because I wrote it while drunk during liquor ban and English is my 2nd language.
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I didn’t notice, too busy looking at the trees. Thanks for the point out.
Perfectly balanced... Liked and shared
Holy shit man this channel cracks me up 😂 I’m supposed to be asleep right now but I’m binge watching all the videos.
this is actually really good advice
The factory has usually test ran your new bike on their dyno. I think they may bring it up to redline without a lot of RPM varying. It does get a very long cool down cycle.
The names of the lawsuit files are great.
You look like Joffery from game of thrones . . . bloody good actor, also helpful video thanks
A few years back, I rented a CBR500F from CLASS for a couple of track days. When I got on the bike, it had under 2 miles on it. I asked about breaking it in, and Reg Pridmore (the guy who runs CLASS) told me, to paraphrase, that I should "ride it now like you want to ride it later". I bevelled the footpegs and ran it like it owed me money.
I don't ever buy a new motorcycle. Always prefer old but had to watch the video cuz fortnine stuff is some quality stuff.
Asad Siraj the motorcycle s I want are brand new models that just came out so I will take that over used
Very good points. To each his own for sure. Reason I love used is I switch out a lot of parts anyway to customize the vehicle and I enjoy working and learning on them.
Asad Siraj yea if you are going to do that , then I do understand you.
I think if a motorcycle is not good enough stock, then its not worth buying. But thats just me.
At least we both love working on our motorcycles!
Daniel B i can see that with off road bikes but I'm looking for a more street oriented bike as my next bike. Oh my profile pic? Man I need to update that. I was planning on getting that as my first bike but I ended up getting a 01 ninja 500r!
Stephen Hartley Brundrett hear you man. Also there are some bikes that are very special like the 05 06 gsxr 1000. I bought my dream project bike being the 05 R1 when they had great horsepower for a fraction of what its worth.
Just got a new bike- love the video.thx
This video is so well shot, it's like the older Top Gear of the motorbike World =P
Great stuff.
I am getting a new 2021 Ural cT in a month or so and will follow FortNine's break in procedure and if I have problems later on will sue FortNine.
Rite outta the box...Ride it
like you stole it.... with a few
easy relaxing cruises between
Quality content 💪
Excellent how to video! Still breaking in my 2017 R1200GSA at the moment. Will apply this immediately. Keep up the videos!
Excellent videos
Thanks!
Damn your production value has gone really high. Same great info in a new package.
Damn! This Guy was this good back then
Just once I’d like to see a “how to break your bike!” video!
Nice bike! GS1200 😍
I got a good kick out of the "Evils of Capitalism" and other contentious topics section. I dig this a bit more than the full-on skits becuase it's funny while still being an informative format. But, literally everyone else seems to dig the skits and I won't lie and say that they aren't imaginative and well done. 'Cause they are, especially the Bill Nye themed invisible riding one.
Also, WOW, I did not know anything about the piston/piston wall thing, and the sandpaper analogy is great like Lawrence said. That's incredibly informative, I'll have to keep that in mind.
Love your videos
This is also the correct procedure for gearbox break-in. Great Video!
Excellent Video!
Cheah !
How da hell you only have 20 likes on this? lol
Cheah !
@@MrCODEmaster00 best video
I couldn't really stop myself. I was mostly gentle up until 200 miles of the 300 mile break-in. But I started giving her the beans soon after.
I'm too scared to hit redline on my bike LOL.
Do it in first gear then. SMH! ;-)
You are right. I have been in the auto industry for more than 30 years involved in Product Engineering of gears and axles. Bearings and gears don´t like high speed or load when new. We do break-in cycles on dynamometers always before testing or you WILL get premature failures with bearings galling and gears scuffing or pitting. Break-in should be low to medium load cycles, up and down for first few hours.... NEVER lug it or rev it to redline when new if you want a long lasting gear-train. Then again, you don´t need to die of boredom when breaking it a motorcycle. Figure half throttle and short shifting for first few hundred miles...
@@horozco4 sir may i ask? How about on scooters? Do they need break-ins?
then u should not.
Give' er man......
This video is top notch .
New to motorcycling and motorcycling interest. And your videos Ryan, are staggeringly awesome. Crisp, informative, not lengthy, and word efficient. Simply phenomenal.
great video. great described topic
I find the break in period usually involves losing a few tassels on the hand grips.
Im okay with that.
Wait. We're not taking about the same Tassels, are we? 😑
Thank You Joffrey
I'm so dumb. I literally sat here waiting for him to bring up "how to brake in your new motorcycle" lol I didn't realize the title said "BREAK" not "BRAKE" 🤭
Saw another vlogger with a brand new big CU build Harley road glide. He took this new bike out with less than 5 miles on the motor and beat the hell out of it. Guess what? It broke rather spectacularly. I may not be 100% right but breaking in a new bike will help with longevity. PS and taking it easy at first on a bike is a great way to really get a feel for the bike too.