I've never found it that annoying that you still sound like your original character when wearing a cap. It actually makes more sense to me, because therefore you know you're still you and not the real character whose cap you put on.
I found it amusing to hear Yoshi sounds as Wario. It's even funnier how they take the animation of the characters they have a cap of, but that's probably due to simplicity.
@futal1000 They could've made more models and textures so that Yoshi with a cap would turn into Yoshi in a plumber costume and Mario, Luigi and Wario with caps would basically have their current outfit colours changed.
When I was a kid and bought my first DS, I recall it coming with the Metroid Prime Hunters : First Hunt demo thingy, but there was a deal where a game and the DS were lightly cheaper. So I got 64 DS, having no idea at all what an N64 was, or why it was even called 64 DS to begin with. I actually got so used to 64 DS's controls and using the thumb grip thing they gave away with the DS, that nowadays, I can still 100% DS and perfectly use the screen commands... and have issues playing the original cuz of my own muscle memory lol. I have no clue whether it is because I first tried to play 64 on the Switch with the Pro Controller instead of an N64 one, but I swear, 64 DS was my only true DS game until Pokemon Ranger and Pearl, so I dedicated my skills to it.
This is actually the most unexpected comment LOL. Your first/preferred Mario 64 experience was the thumbstrap?? 😂😂. Btw I got the same deal, gray DS with the prime hunters demo :)
@@NintenDeen I literally read the manual and it said "Oh yeah use this!" So I just... did it. Like, nothing in my mind as a kid said "Ain't this a bit convoluted?"
is that a digimon pfp? Also I remember how fans graved mario 64 to be portable and for every handheld tgere was a fake video showing mario 64 running on it 😂 and now we have the switch
In fairness, a few people have given it a fair shake! I mentioned exo but I think silokhawk had a decent video on DS a couple years ago. In general many GameCube era kids speak highly of it even if they prefer the N64 joystick.
Really happy to see you covering this instead of sunshine. This game holds a special place in my heart. I'm currently playing through it with my son.....for the 3rd time in a row lmao
I’ve been rewatching this playlist this whole Xmas season. It’s made the time feel extra cozy man. Keep at it with the great work bro. I really dig your analyses and how honest and constructive it’s put together
Always down for more yapping about either version. Love them both! Luigi was a great feature to the game. Not only could he jump super high and far, but could also swim the fastest. Making the dreaded water levels way less of a chore. Or you could play as Wario and make it a dangerous slog.
Really looking forward to this series, this was one of my favorite games on the DS when I was kid! I managed to complete it too, although I'm pretty sure I got half the stars in this game using Luigi's somersault backflip 😂
While 64 DS certainly has higher poly models, I think the main issue comes down to screen resolution. 64 DS was made to be played on a tiny little hand held screen, so it just kinda looks blurry on any other screen. Meanwhile, I don't think Mario 64 cares how big your screen is, I mean you were going to see all the polys anyway. I think Wind Waker looked great when it came out. There were always people picking on it for the cartoony art style, but I can't imagine why anyone would say it was already outdated. In general, I think games that go for a distinguished art style just age better than games that go for realism. They look like 'how they're supposed to' rather than 'this was someone's best attempt at the time'. When I first saw footage of WindWaker HD, I was like "what's the difference", I'm sure it'd be more noticeable in a side-by-side comparison, but Wind Waker just didn't feel like a game than needed the HD remake.
Looking forward to the series. Regarding Luigi, I think being a game breaker is overstated since he is unlocked, sort of halfway through the game and the extent of his ablities wont be apparent to a new player. I only found out a lot of that stuff after finishing the game and seeing which cool stuff Luigi could break
honestly i don't really notice 64 DS being that visually outdated, lower poly yeah but textures and colors do a lot of heavy lifting, especially colors and 64 DS's colors are literally perfect, people talk about Bob-omb Battlefield;s grass (usually not realizing Whomp's Fortress and Tiny Huge Island are the same) but that's the normal grass color for a battlefield, plus it clashes less with Yoshi who you have to beat this course with at least once, where you have more options with the other doors anyway I agree the controls have never really bothered me, even after playing more free-er 3D Games, and i think Luigi's backflip may be really strong, this is also a game for kids and it was really helpful back when i was one, so i don't think it really makes the game inferior, just adds more options i actually beat the chain chomp star as a kid with the power flower for luigi, never even realizing you had to pound it's stake, so even the splitting of the caps between characters adds more options than limiting them like a lot of people claim it does
Bob-Omb battlefield is a bit of an outlier. Most of the stages do indeed look the same. But the DS had that grainy PS1 look to it that the PS2 drastically improved on. So if 64DS had like a PS1 to PS2 face lift I think it'd have aged much better. But honestly it's all splitting hairs and looking at magnifying glasses lol. And it's extremely subjective. I don't think my opinion is any more valuable on this than anyone else's
Im more nostalgic for 64 ds than og. I know the controls are not ideal, but I never had much issue with them. Also no shade but sonic rush and phantom hourglass are ideal games for the ds
It was a nice idea and blew my mind an n64 game could exist on a handheld. Playing it vs the original, a certain charm is lost, and there being a few new courses, there could have been so much more, a bigger castle with more to explore would have been amazing, but I guess for that B3313 is your fix.
The N64 graphics and artsyle have always looked better to me. That's actually what put me off playing the DS version. Just seeing that the grass and dirt looked less vibrant and "cartoony" kind of made me say "nah, that's not Mario 64". I've always loved things with a more timeless artstyle. Like, I can easily play a PS1 Worms game without ever thinking it looks bad, because it has its own style and it looks the way it's supposed to look.
It's only bob-omb battlefield that has that drastic of a change in grass color I believe. Must of the game looks more similar to the original but with that DS texture
Super Mario 64 DS is ironically long overdue for a remake, if they ever do remake it then they need to add Waluigi, especially since it will finally give him a starring role.
I am so excited for this new series! I just recently played through the original Mario 64 after growing up with the ds version and I noticed so many little things they changed to make the ds version a bit easier even if it's just an extra platform being added or something.
I’m certainly excited to see what all you think about the changes in this version! Although I played this version first, I think I’ve still ended up preferring the original (though I wasn’t alive when either version was released lol). For me, I think the controls and design decisions make all the difference. The controls were mostly workable, but I feel like they’re still altered in a way that just kinda feels off. Even ignoring the analog debate, the characters’ physics themselves are slightly altered (run speed/buildup, jumping floatiness, etc.) in a way that makes the DS version just feel less fluid. I may try the 3DS analog control cheat code someday and reevaluate, but I feel like those issues will remain. As far as design changes go, I honestly found a good number of the added stars kinda meaningless, but inoffensive. What bothers me more is that splitting a power up suite originally designed for one character into 1-2 powers among 4 playable characters added a lot of needless clunkiness to a system that worked fairly well as is. It feels like a stilted attempt to justify the inclusion of the other three characters. If I recall correctly, 64 DS’s development was a bit weird and originally had a completely different vision, and I think that it kinda shows in the final product. But anyway, those are my ramblings about a 20 year old remake of a nearly 30 year old game lol
The wii u virtual console on the wii u tablet is my go to for mario 64. It might be a bit cheap, but its solely because of the save state. Being able to create a restore point literally anywhere comes in great handy when going for the 100 coin stars in tick tock clock and rainbow ride. Rainbow ride simply because the blue coin block can be brutal. And TTC because it's a pain in the butt to climb the clock and go for the coins without falling off.
This'll be a good watch. I grew up with 64 DS, but in retrospect I think most of the new stars are fluff that doesn't add much. Curious to hear your thoughts.
When I was little, the idea of Super Mario 64 DS was amazing. Before I even played it and only having heard about it, I thought that having Mario 64 on the go was awesome. Getting it and playing it back then blew my mind for having Yoshi, Luigi and Wario playable. Much like OG 64, I have also returned to and beaten SM64DS a few times to full completion. DS has more content than the original, yet the original has its charms. I would happily play either one, though.
I wonder how the discourse on Mario’s controls has changed specifically because replacement n64 controller joysticks are *not* what we used to have. The other day, I plugged in my original controller that I keep for preserving and occasional use, and Mario responds completely different on an original joystick. It’s far more sensitive and easier when making minute movements.
If you notice in my OG64 vids, and many others you'll find online, when ppl are trying to run straight with Mario it doesn't always work right. They swivel a lot. The N64 having that "oval" analog zone or whatever it's called where it's more sensitive pressing right and left than it is pressing up and down absolutely makes a difference
While I get what you were trying to say with the art style comparisons, the Legend of Zelda analogy really fell flat. If anything I'd say Twilight Princess's art style has aged significantly better than Wind Waker (as has its gameplay).
My First exposure to Mario 64 was my cousin's N64. But the bulk of my actual experience is with the DS version. I find it to be a great game even with the limitations of the platform. It definitely plays a bit better with an analog stick on an emulator or 3DS. As the Dpad controls are kind of butt even if they are workable. In fact I actually found my copy on the ground originally. Best value is free.
@NintenDeen it was somebody else's bad day. It never lasted though as somebody stole it from me later. I like to imagine it's still out there. Changing hands.
I agree with almost all of this! But I grew up with DS mainly. (Hottake) I've noticed the game looking so . . . Super Mario 64 DS is a quirk with a few of the Mario DS games (even the Minigames in SM64DS! Mario Kart DS is also a comparison), it seems to be (atleast in my view) a way to make them all look sleek, the DS' design was sleek and modern in the 2000s way so it fused with the Mario IP on games of this era (temperarily). I always took account of this so I always never thought the game aged, it was always how a reimagining was supposed to be. It did what it wanted to even if people think it looks bad now. I think it mainly looks fine (except the paintings.)
I get your point! I mean to me it looks fine too, the age of it just shows a bit more, like it all needs to be smoothed over lol. It has the "PS1" look to it if that makes sense
@NintenDeen I 100% agree with that too on the spikey models bit (lol, maybe I got used to it?), I also (IMO of course) think they didn't know how to completely make the models flow yet if thats an odd sentence enough. They can have the same poly count on a model but later on some games just make it roll better model wise . . . Again the phrasing is odd but I hope it makes sense. Thank you for a video that doesn't just smash on SM64DS!
binge watched the mario 64 videos and didnt subscirbed, got that fixed I never played DS but tbh based on descriptions it sounds so different I would consider different experiences
I don't like that arrow on that hill where I used to walk up. I'm one of the few that didn't know you go towards the rolling balls to get up the mountain at first. However I still don't want an arrow pointing me there. If I want to walk slowly up a hill I should be able to.
@NintenDeen It seems a little more linear with that sign. Also I have never played the DS version so I hope they didn't also make the hill steeper so you can't walk up it. One of the things I like about Mario 64 is you can take different paths. Although I will say that sign likely makes the red coin harder to find.
i do think its really funny that mario 64 revolutionised the analog stick and that DS took it out i do prefer the original for that reason, but i'd be high if i talked like DS was a bad game
Ngl it fixed most issues of super mario 64, and there is basicly no reason to play super mario 64 when a remake like this exists, I think the controls are also better and easier to learn We need something like super mario 64 remake on switch with wuluigi, better graphics and like 50 more stars
@ I didn't grow up with any of those games, but the graphics and controls of super mario 64 are repeling to me, I don't think early 3d games aged well, but I guess it's just my opinion
@ I think it's a similar case to super mario all stars and advance series, they remade the games and added more features, so a player without nostalgia have no reason to play the older games
tbh what bothers me a lot of the DS controls is the run button lol, and the physics as they were clearly changed for the game and idk, I don't feel them as satisfactory as the ones in 64, tbf luigi kinda fixes that with his very big jumps or yoshi with his flutter, but i dont like using as much Mario in that game, not because he sucks, if not because I like doing many things in the 64 version while in ds i just go the normal path for example, tbf is not that bad, as I did complete it, but yeah to me 64 is just better in how it feels, while the DS ones are fine just i dont like them as much
I can easily change between control styles 64 controls are still wholly superior and easily preferred. I don't believe you need to be a speedrunner to see this Also, yea, it looks better than the Wii U emulation because Wii U emulation sucks. There are many other, better, ways to play 64
I don't think you need to be a speed runner to see the difference, my point is unless you're Speedrunning or trying something game breaking I don't think the change in control drastically alters the experience. Maybe I didn't deliver that well lol
@@NintenDeen I personally think the change in control does alter the experience quite a bit. I remember getting DS when it came out and loved it, but only digital inputs really limit the experience for me and prevents me from seeing it as the definitive version. Mario 64 was literally built around the 64 controller and its capabilities, specifically the joystick. I'm fine with people not prioritizing that as much as I do, but I think perhaps the way you worded it was not the best, or maybe I heard incorrectly
@@NintenDeennah, not the aura. It's like, there's just little design choices that I find weird, like how only Mario can open Star doors, only Mario can fight bowsers. Stuff like that. I'm not the best at explaining what I feel, but it's just little stuff like that.
@@camharkness i believe its just the final bowser level that only mario is able to enter. yeah you still need mario to open the doors but the game doesnt stop you from swapping your character afterwards and beating bowser (the first two bowser stages) as yoshi or something. also if you're curious, bowser's fire randomly spawns one of the caps if you enter the fight as yoshi.
I don't even like calling this game Super Mario 64 DS because it is a huge downgrade, it doesn't even look like an N64 game, it looks more like a PS1 game
I have always hated 64 DS not for the controls but for one very simple reason: it wasn’t OG 64. My parents got it for me back in the day and my expectation was that it was literally Mario 64 ported to the DS. When I found out it wasn’t and it had a bunch of extra stuff in it, I stopped playing it immediately and have refused to play it to this day
@@thevenom2731 whether or not it was “better” depends on who you talk to :) IMO it was awful, the OG was better. I can have my opinion as you can have yours
@@epitome8639 You're entitled to your own opinion, but your opinion is like saying "brussel sprouts taste gross and I won't eat them" when you've never tried them...............
A playable Luigi is never a bad thing, he’s the best Mario brother
I've never found it that annoying that you still sound like your original character when wearing a cap. It actually makes more sense to me, because therefore you know you're still you and not the real character whose cap you put on.
I found it amusing to hear Yoshi sounds as Wario. It's even funnier how they take the animation of the characters they have a cap of, but that's probably due to simplicity.
@futal1000 They could've made more models and textures so that Yoshi with a cap would turn into Yoshi in a plumber costume and Mario, Luigi and Wario with caps would basically have their current outfit colours changed.
It’s fine the way it is. You’re supposed to *become* the character when putting on the cap. Not just have their outfit.
When I was a kid and bought my first DS, I recall it coming with the Metroid Prime Hunters : First Hunt demo thingy, but there was a deal where a game and the DS were lightly cheaper. So I got 64 DS, having no idea at all what an N64 was, or why it was even called 64 DS to begin with. I actually got so used to 64 DS's controls and using the thumb grip thing they gave away with the DS, that nowadays, I can still 100% DS and perfectly use the screen commands... and have issues playing the original cuz of my own muscle memory lol. I have no clue whether it is because I first tried to play 64 on the Switch with the Pro Controller instead of an N64 one, but I swear, 64 DS was my only true DS game until Pokemon Ranger and Pearl, so I dedicated my skills to it.
This is actually the most unexpected comment LOL. Your first/preferred Mario 64 experience was the thumbstrap?? 😂😂.
Btw I got the same deal, gray DS with the prime hunters demo :)
@@NintenDeen I literally read the manual and it said "Oh yeah use this!" So I just... did it.
Like, nothing in my mind as a kid said "Ain't this a bit convoluted?"
is that a digimon pfp? Also I remember how fans graved mario 64 to be portable and for every handheld tgere was a fake video showing mario 64 running on it 😂 and now we have the switch
Great channel, I hope to see you grow larger someday
Thanks! That means a lot haha
As a kid who grew up with 64 DS I'm so glad to see someone giving it a fair shake after all this time
In fairness, a few people have given it a fair shake! I mentioned exo but I think silokhawk had a decent video on DS a couple years ago. In general many GameCube era kids speak highly of it even if they prefer the N64 joystick.
@@NintenDeen And ExoParadigmGamer
Yup that's who I meant when I said "exo" lol
Really happy to see you covering this instead of sunshine. This game holds a special place in my heart. I'm currently playing through it with my son.....for the 3rd time in a row lmao
Made more sense for me to roll right into DS before sunshine. Glad to see your son enjoying it too, even if 3 times in a row is a lot 😂
I’ve been rewatching this playlist this whole Xmas season. It’s made the time feel extra cozy man. Keep at it with the great work bro. I really dig your analyses and how honest and constructive it’s put together
I'm glad you're enjoying it :)
I've been enjoying these videos. I like how you analyse this game.
Glad you enjoy it!
Always down for more yapping about either version. Love them both! Luigi was a great feature to the game. Not only could he jump super high and far, but could also swim the fastest. Making the dreaded water levels way less of a chore. Or you could play as Wario and make it a dangerous slog.
Really looking forward to this series, this was one of my favorite games on the DS when I was kid! I managed to complete it too, although I'm pretty sure I got half the stars in this game using Luigi's somersault backflip 😂
Luigi's backflip does help in a lot of tight spaces haha. But it's still almost the exact same game in both versions. I hope you enjoy the vids!
While 64 DS certainly has higher poly models, I think the main issue comes down to screen resolution. 64 DS was made to be played on a tiny little hand held screen, so it just kinda looks blurry on any other screen. Meanwhile, I don't think Mario 64 cares how big your screen is, I mean you were going to see all the polys anyway.
I think Wind Waker looked great when it came out. There were always people picking on it for the cartoony art style, but I can't imagine why anyone would say it was already outdated.
In general, I think games that go for a distinguished art style just age better than games that go for realism. They look like 'how they're supposed to' rather than 'this was someone's best attempt at the time'. When I first saw footage of WindWaker HD, I was like "what's the difference", I'm sure it'd be more noticeable in a side-by-side comparison, but Wind Waker just didn't feel like a game than needed the HD remake.
Looking forward to the series. Regarding Luigi, I think being a game breaker is overstated since he is unlocked, sort of halfway through the game and the extent of his ablities wont be apparent to a new player. I only found out a lot of that stuff after finishing the game and seeing which cool stuff Luigi could break
Yeah this is a point worth bringing up, and I'll certainly be bringing it up in upcoming videos
honestly i don't really notice 64 DS being that visually outdated, lower poly yeah but textures and colors do a lot of heavy lifting, especially colors and 64 DS's colors are literally perfect, people talk about Bob-omb Battlefield;s grass (usually not realizing Whomp's Fortress and Tiny Huge Island are the same) but that's the normal grass color for a battlefield, plus it clashes less with Yoshi who you have to beat this course with at least once, where you have more options with the other doors
anyway I agree the controls have never really bothered me, even after playing more free-er 3D Games, and i think Luigi's backflip may be really strong, this is also a game for kids and it was really helpful back when i was one, so i don't think it really makes the game inferior, just adds more options
i actually beat the chain chomp star as a kid with the power flower for luigi, never even realizing you had to pound it's stake, so even the splitting of the caps between characters adds more options than limiting them like a lot of people claim it does
Bob-Omb battlefield is a bit of an outlier. Most of the stages do indeed look the same. But the DS had that grainy PS1 look to it that the PS2 drastically improved on. So if 64DS had like a PS1 to PS2 face lift I think it'd have aged much better.
But honestly it's all splitting hairs and looking at magnifying glasses lol. And it's extremely subjective. I don't think my opinion is any more valuable on this than anyone else's
Im more nostalgic for 64 ds than og. I know the controls are not ideal, but I never had much issue with them.
Also no shade but sonic rush and phantom hourglass are ideal games for the ds
Oh I agree. I only brought them up because they're top-down/2D Adventures and not 3D like N64 games
It was a nice idea and blew my mind an n64 game could exist on a handheld. Playing it vs the original, a certain charm is lost, and there being a few new courses, there could have been so much more, a bigger castle with more to explore would have been amazing, but I guess for that B3313 is your fix.
I'm so down for this DS - 64 comparison series
Oh hell yeah we're getting a whole series for the DS let's go
The N64 graphics and artsyle have always looked better to me. That's actually what put me off playing the DS version. Just seeing that the grass and dirt looked less vibrant and "cartoony" kind of made me say "nah, that's not Mario 64". I've always loved things with a more timeless artstyle. Like, I can easily play a PS1 Worms game without ever thinking it looks bad, because it has its own style and it looks the way it's supposed to look.
It's only bob-omb battlefield that has that drastic of a change in grass color I believe. Must of the game looks more similar to the original but with that DS texture
Controls was never an issue with Mario 64.
Not for most, but I think newer gamers struggle to adjust. Especially since no one is playing it with an N64 controller anymore
My third favourite Mario game right behind Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2
Super Mario 64 DS is ironically long overdue for a remake, if they ever do remake it then they need to add Waluigi, especially since it will finally give him a starring role.
I am so excited for this new series! I just recently played through the original Mario 64 after growing up with the ds version and I noticed so many little things they changed to make the ds version a bit easier even if it's just an extra platform being added or something.
DS version all around is much easier imo
Doesn't want to talk about the controls.
Spends a third of the video talking about the controls.
I have ~10 more videos coming up where I won't be discussing the controls :)
I’m certainly excited to see what all you think about the changes in this version! Although I played this version first, I think I’ve still ended up preferring the original (though I wasn’t alive when either version was released lol). For me, I think the controls and design decisions make all the difference. The controls were mostly workable, but I feel like they’re still altered in a way that just kinda feels off. Even ignoring the analog debate, the characters’ physics themselves are slightly altered (run speed/buildup, jumping floatiness, etc.) in a way that makes the DS version just feel less fluid. I may try the 3DS analog control cheat code someday and reevaluate, but I feel like those issues will remain. As far as design changes go, I honestly found a good number of the added stars kinda meaningless, but inoffensive. What bothers me more is that splitting a power up suite originally designed for one character into 1-2 powers among 4 playable characters added a lot of needless clunkiness to a system that worked fairly well as is. It feels like a stilted attempt to justify the inclusion of the other three characters. If I recall correctly, 64 DS’s development was a bit weird and originally had a completely different vision, and I think that it kinda shows in the final product. But anyway, those are my ramblings about a 20 year old remake of a nearly 30 year old game lol
The wii u virtual console on the wii u tablet is my go to for mario 64. It might be a bit cheap, but its solely because of the save state. Being able to create a restore point literally anywhere comes in great handy when going for the 100 coin stars in tick tock clock and rainbow ride. Rainbow ride simply because the blue coin block can be brutal. And TTC because it's a pain in the butt to climb the clock and go for the coins without falling off.
That's completely reasonable lol. I'm glad you found a way to enjoy the game
It would have been nice if this game was ported with 3d all stars along with 64. Sadly I killed my copy with an action replay long ago.
I'm still holding out for a 3D All-stars sequel that includes this, galaxy 2, and 3D land lol
@@NintenDeenSame, every time a new direct comes out I have my fingers crossed. 😂
The 3DS has a full analogue mod for sm64ds and its my absolute favorite way to play Mario 64
Yes, big fan of this mod
I was hoping for sunshine to be honest, but im still excited for this
I'm estimating it's ~9 days of 64ds videos. After that will be sunshine :)
i love luigi's backflip
This'll be a good watch. I grew up with 64 DS, but in retrospect I think most of the new stars are fluff that doesn't add much. Curious to hear your thoughts.
When I was little, the idea of Super Mario 64 DS was amazing. Before I even played it and only having heard about it, I thought that having Mario 64 on the go was awesome. Getting it and playing it back then blew my mind for having Yoshi, Luigi and Wario playable. Much like OG 64, I have also returned to and beaten SM64DS a few times to full completion. DS has more content than the original, yet the original has its charms. I would happily play either one, though.
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I wonder how the discourse on Mario’s controls has changed specifically because replacement n64 controller joysticks are *not* what we used to have.
The other day, I plugged in my original controller that I keep for preserving and occasional use, and Mario responds completely different on an original joystick. It’s far more sensitive and easier when making minute movements.
If you notice in my OG64 vids, and many others you'll find online, when ppl are trying to run straight with Mario it doesn't always work right. They swivel a lot. The N64 having that "oval" analog zone or whatever it's called where it's more sensitive pressing right and left than it is pressing up and down absolutely makes a difference
Nice videos! Subbed :)
Thanks!
While I get what you were trying to say with the art style comparisons, the Legend of Zelda analogy really fell flat. If anything I'd say Twilight Princess's art style has aged significantly better than Wind Waker (as has its gameplay).
Wait really? I've almost exclusively heard the opposite point of view lol
My First exposure to Mario 64 was my cousin's N64. But the bulk of my actual experience is with the DS version.
I find it to be a great game even with the limitations of the platform. It definitely plays a bit better with an analog stick on an emulator or 3DS. As the Dpad controls are kind of butt even if they are workable.
In fact I actually found my copy on the ground originally. Best value is free.
That's awesome. Imagine being lucky enough to find a video game on the ground and it's Mario 64 DS lol
@NintenDeen it was somebody else's bad day. It never lasted though as somebody stole it from me later. I like to imagine it's still out there. Changing hands.
I agree with almost all of this! But I grew up with DS mainly. (Hottake) I've noticed the game looking so . . . Super Mario 64 DS is a quirk with a few of the Mario DS games (even the Minigames in SM64DS! Mario Kart DS is also a comparison), it seems to be (atleast in my view) a way to make them all look sleek, the DS' design was sleek and modern in the 2000s way so it fused with the Mario IP on games of this era (temperarily). I always took account of this so I always never thought the game aged, it was always how a reimagining was supposed to be. It did what it wanted to even if people think it looks bad now. I think it mainly looks fine (except the paintings.)
I get your point! I mean to me it looks fine too, the age of it just shows a bit more, like it all needs to be smoothed over lol. It has the "PS1" look to it if that makes sense
@NintenDeen I 100% agree with that too on the spikey models bit (lol, maybe I got used to it?), I also (IMO of course) think they didn't know how to completely make the models flow yet if thats an odd sentence enough. They can have the same poly count on a model but later on some games just make it roll better model wise . . . Again the phrasing is odd but I hope it makes sense. Thank you for a video that doesn't just smash on SM64DS!
binge watched the mario 64 videos and didnt subscirbed, got that fixed
I never played DS but tbh based on descriptions it sounds so different I would consider different experiences
Yooo im one of the first hundred views on this one. Sick
Same here ✌️
A month ago I'd have celebrated to get 100 views in a single week lol. You guys are awesome, thanks for watching!
Always neat to be this early
And also I’m gay
I don't like that arrow on that hill where I used to walk up. I'm one of the few that didn't know you go towards the rolling balls to get up the mountain at first. However I still don't want an arrow pointing me there. If I want to walk slowly up a hill I should be able to.
Can't you just walk around the arrow? Lol
@NintenDeen It seems a little more linear with that sign. Also I have never played the DS version so I hope they didn't also make the hill steeper so you can't walk up it. One of the things I like about Mario 64 is you can take different paths. Although I will say that sign likely makes the red coin harder to find.
@@NintenDeen By the way your channel is great! I like hearing about the level design of games I like!
i do think its really funny that mario 64 revolutionised the analog stick and that DS took it out
i do prefer the original for that reason, but i'd be high if i talked like DS was a bad game
Yeah the irony is not lost on me haha
Ngl it fixed most issues of super mario 64, and there is basicly no reason to play super mario 64 when a remake like this exists, I think the controls are also better and easier to learn
We need something like super mario 64 remake on switch with wuluigi, better graphics and like 50 more stars
"No reason" is a bit of a stretch, I think the controls are a big reason for most lol.
But I enjoy many of the QoL improvements
@ I didn't grow up with any of those games, but the graphics and controls of super mario 64 are repeling to me, I don't think early 3d games aged well, but I guess it's just my opinion
Fair. It has a hideous charm to me haha
@ I think it's a similar case to super mario all stars and advance series, they remade the games and added more features, so a player without nostalgia have no reason to play the older games
tbh what bothers me a lot of the DS controls is the run button lol, and the physics as they were clearly changed for the game and idk, I don't feel them as satisfactory as the ones in 64, tbf luigi kinda fixes that with his very big jumps or yoshi with his flutter, but i dont like using as much Mario in that game, not because he sucks, if not because I like doing many things in the 64 version while in ds i just go the normal path for example, tbf is not that bad, as I did complete it, but yeah to me 64 is just better in how it feels, while the DS ones are fine just i dont like them as much
That's fair. I should've mentioned the OG is much more fluid so it's easier to get back into after long breaks
I play this on pc
Just as i was getting bored
I can easily change between control styles
64 controls are still wholly superior and easily preferred. I don't believe you need to be a speedrunner to see this
Also, yea, it looks better than the Wii U emulation because Wii U emulation sucks. There are many other, better, ways to play 64
I don't think you need to be a speed runner to see the difference, my point is unless you're Speedrunning or trying something game breaking I don't think the change in control drastically alters the experience. Maybe I didn't deliver that well lol
@@NintenDeen I personally think the change in control does alter the experience quite a bit. I remember getting DS when it came out and loved it, but only digital inputs really limit the experience for me and prevents me from seeing it as the definitive version. Mario 64 was literally built around the 64 controller and its capabilities, specifically the joystick. I'm fine with people not prioritizing that as much as I do, but I think perhaps the way you worded it was not the best, or maybe I heard incorrectly
In my opinion, sm64 ds is weird. I prefer original sm64, but ds isnt bad. It's just really weird.
Curious, what do you mean by weird? And please don't tell me this is another discussion about the aura lol
@@NintenDeennah, not the aura. It's like, there's just little design choices that I find weird, like how only Mario can open Star doors, only Mario can fight bowsers.
Stuff like that. I'm not the best at explaining what I feel, but it's just little stuff like that.
@@camharknessyou know who’s name is on the box, right?
@@camharkness i believe its just the final bowser level that only mario is able to enter. yeah you still need mario to open the doors but the game doesnt stop you from swapping your character afterwards and beating bowser (the first two bowser stages) as yoshi or something. also if you're curious, bowser's fire randomly spawns one of the caps if you enter the fight as yoshi.
Not first
I don't even like calling this game Super Mario 64 DS because it is a huge downgrade, it doesn't even look like an N64 game, it looks more like a PS1 game
"PS1" game is a great way to describe the looks of this game I think lol. It has that same grainy look to it now in hindsight too
@@NintenDeen since the game looks more like a PS1 game, they should have called it Super Mario 32 lol
That’s your reasoning?🙄
I have always hated 64 DS not for the controls but for one very simple reason: it wasn’t OG 64. My parents got it for me back in the day and my expectation was that it was literally Mario 64 ported to the DS. When I found out it wasn’t and it had a bunch of extra stuff in it, I stopped playing it immediately and have refused to play it to this day
Oh wow haha. That's a hell of a reason to not play
So you're mad you got a better version of the game? That's an incredibly ridiculous reason to not play a game.
@@thevenom2731 whether or not it was “better” depends on who you talk to :) IMO it was awful, the OG was better. I can have my opinion as you can have yours
@@epitome8639 You're entitled to your own opinion, but your opinion is like saying "brussel sprouts taste gross and I won't eat them" when you've never tried them...............
@@derekrequiem4359 not quite, I did try it and didn’t like it