The future of Hyundai’s performance brand from the man running it!
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- After driving the 641 HP @hyundai IONIQ 5 N at @WeatherTechRaceway_LagunaSeca, MotoMan talks with the Vice President of the @HyundaiWorldwide N Brand & @HyundaiMotorGroup Motorsport, Till Wartenberg. Till shares behind the scenes insight onto how the Hyundai IONIQ 5 N used unconventional solutions to make a heavy car go around a track and then he provides insight into the future of Hyundai N vehicles . . .
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Excellent interview, well done Sir ! Hyundai right now is the ONLY car company showing real Vision on EVs. They give me hope for future fun EVs, where none existed before. It would be great if Mr. Wartenberg and team can add more sound choices to the performance EVs, especially sounds from many of the great ICE engines from past and present, but sounding analog, not digital/electric. When lighter battery tech comes, these cars will truly be the go-to choice, unless they and the dealers price themselves out of the market.
„Why 2-speed when you can have a 8-speed“ 😂👍
Best answer I have heard in years!
@@MotoManTV Car manufacturers are milking the no or low number of gear transmissions as long as they can. Then more gears will start to appear just like in the ICE cars, ensuring the future manufacturing. I mean, no main stream car company wants to build a perfect car because then where to next?
@@MotoManTV I honestly think becasue the N division has imo more flexibility than other companies, they should focus on making a small converitible rwd sports car. Similar to the GR86 and ND Miata. Somewhere in that size range but that offers more features and better performance. Also they could be the first company to make a small convertible electric car if they figure out how to make it lighter. I know it would be difficult since battery vehicles are naturally heavy but I think they could figure it out. Also as long as they can make combustible engines they could look into making another RWD sports car to compete with the 3 series, CT5, etc.
@@jsz2619they aren't milking low or no gears in EVs as a gimmick, they aren't milking it at all the simple truth is EVs don't need gearboxes.
EVs have full torque from zero rpm so you don't need a low gear to combat lack of low end torque, also EVs have a rev limit high enough that you can hit motorway/ highway speeds without the need for a high gear. A gearbox would add; weight, complexity, expense and decrease reliability for no benefit.
The only time an EV needs a gearbox is when you need to drive above the average motorway/ highway speeds (say 70-90 mph), this is why the higher end German EVs (like the Porsche) have a two speed box - to introduce a high gear that works at 90+ mph on the autobahns, most countries don't have unlimited speed limits so most countries never push an EV top speed high enough to warrant a two speed box
This Korean German collaboration is producing masterpieces! There should be some mergers of the two. Examples of international mergers are Daimler Chrysler (German American), Fiat Chrysler (Italian American), Renault Nissan (French Japanese).
All are awful. However, there is a magical chemistry between Koreans and Germans that brings out synergy!
Waiting for my delivery of my 5 N. I hope there's over the air sound upgrades like Airwolf or an Xwing. Also would be awesome to customise NGB sound when pressed......... like....Gangmam Style! . Seriously. Sound upgrades
I can attest that the car is absolutely amazing! My daily driver has been a Porsche 991.1 911 turbo. Since acquiring the car just over a week ago, I’ve not driven my Porsche once. Not even interested, to be honest! It’s the best car I’ve ever driven!
Give it time and you'll be back in the Turbo more frequently :)
@@pstoppanidoubt it
Fake
Great interview and entertaining with the cars racing in the background! 👍🙂
Love the concept of 8 speed
The ionic 5N has shown the world a way forward. It is one thing to be remembered as an innovator, but it is even better to become an ultimate benchmark for the industry. Keep it up N and bring on ultimate version.
Love what they have done with the IONIQ 5N. Wish: wagon, wagon, wagon. Sleek, great lines and powerful like the Audi RS6.
Except more boring and you'll lose 50% of the value in a year vs. the RS6 holding MSRP for the next 5 years.
@@MrSchn3ll And the RS6 MSRP is twice as much if you can even get one. And my dealer has been asking 20-30K over.
I would love to see an Ioniq 6 N
My expectation (hope) would be you actually make enough N cars for enthusiasts to get without having to feel like it's trying to find a needle in a haystack. It's so discouraging to not see nice performance cars available at dealerships.
The sounds!
From this interview I've gleaned that the N-cars are as good as they are thanks to a few Germans... Also loved the "N Grin".
Hyundai N AWD on the Elantra would be awesome .
I really hope we see an Ioniq 3 N in the next couple of years. I love the Ioniq 5 N and had a blast test driving it, but I really want something smaller, lighter, and cheaper.
Great interview!
My one disappointment is the lack of a HUD in the US I5N. I would love for them to add it as an option.
What I want to see from N is a dedicated platform for performance cars/EVs. It's great that they can create greatness and value from existing parts at a good price. But I want to see what they can do from a blank sheet.
I want to see the two-wheel drive drift mode with the 8-speed and the sounds.
A better feeling six speed. A sunroof in the six speed Elantra N for the USA. i30 in the USA. Wish list - a small sports car to compete with the Miata/GR86/ BRZ
To answer Til's question: I expect the N Division to remain true to the 3 core pillars, but I would also expect that similar to how the RN and the N74 are being worked as "mobile labs," I would want to see more cutting edge development coming out of the brand. Things like weight savings in the power pack, without sacrifice in performance or range, or inventing more wholly unexpected features to the vehicles, like the creative use of torque to simulate gear shifting in a way that pessimistic journalists find that they love in their jaded reviews.
Keep up that great work, build the brand as "affordable" innovators (see Pillar #2), and Hyundai can have as dominant a brand in this niche as Subaru has held for the past 2 decades with their single STi model released per year.
Thanks for the video! Picked up the Ioniq 5N a few weeks ago and we are loving it. Wish the glass roof and HUD were available options in the USA as they are available in the 5N abroad.
I am hopeful that we will see updates to the software and menu for new available driving configurations in the coming months. Is that planned?
I couldn't agree more! That is the one mistake that Hyundai and Kia continue to make in this market. They give us very little credit and think removing important options to lower the price will move units. All it does is make US buyers want to purchase in Canada, lol! I was shocked that they did not include a head-up display,
RWD platform. Curious what N could do with that
Can you sell N-powerplants as crate motors for projects ? Compete with LS swaps. Demo project in something like a Mazda Rx7 FD to showcase small rotating motors.
To answer the last question: maintain physical buttons for the A/C (&cooled seat) controls.
LOL, there are more physical buttons in the Ioniq 5 N than the vast majority of EV's and more than all Teslas combined. The user interface works incredibly well!
For Till Wartenberg : this is not just an n specific request.
Please have Hyundai, kia and Genesis upgrade those:
A) sliding single visors!
Why not DUAL VISORS - like the yangwang u8 / mini countryman ?
If not dual, a single design would need a L- shaped visor hinged from B-pillar, swooping down&forward -> around the side-window and curving in front of the windscreen?
B) Need better shade coverage around the center interior mirror as well ( sometimes still has too much sunlight leaking from gaps even when all visors are deployed)
Thank you in advance for considering these user requests !.
Great episode
Elantra Coupe N PLEASE!
I would like N to explore synthetic sound options further. I know it's difficult to incorporate sounds from cars outside of the Hyundai/Kia offering, but it would be great to have synthetic sounds of a V10 with synthetic shifts of a dual clutch. I think this is a major value-add for Hyundai and for EVs in general.
My expexctations for N is to have real/all wheel drive with a ice that would be awesome and I think sales would go up in the US if they did that
I’ve never driven an EV but as I watch your videos and hear the comments about artificial transmission shifts and piped in audio of ICE engines, I go crazy. What I think I want is the best that an EV can be. Forget about mimicking ICE age technology. Reinvent the automobile and move forward. Am I crazy? Am I missing something (except for selling cars to people who aren’t yet ready for the full change).
전기차 시대, 수소전지차시대...모두 한국이 열고 맨 앞에 있을겨....전고체 포함이다.
Volkswagen take note for the BEV version of the GTI.
3:23 Have they actually snuck ‘n TIE-fighter sounds [with Doppler effect] underneath their N-sounds/N-audio feedback? Cuz that’s what this sounds like. 3:22 to 3:26
Going forward, I'd like to see downloadable packages for N models like this. Like say extra gauge styles, different sound packs, maybe "Pro" software packages that let you tweak with sliders the gear ratios of the artificial gears.
In terms of future products, for a sure a model that weighs under 4000lbs, gets 300 miles and costs $10-20k less. Tesla is doing that right now with the Model 3 Performance, but it doesn't have the amazing software of the N and well, its a Tesla with all its problems. There is a real opportunity to get a performance EV car for the masses here especially since tracks are adding quick charging stations now too.
Mr. Wartenberg, you mentioned the RPM numbers and how it shifts. Can we have downloadable analytics so you can actually see the metrics of your driving? Perhaps through OBD or Bluetooth app. Thank you for this great interview!
EXCELLENT suggestion! I am going to bring it up next I see him.
Anything goes?
I'd love to see Hyundai join in on the light, small battery, 2 motor Hybrids:
- N Vision 74 with a NA V8 serial hybrid that sounds like an 8 speed DCT, but accelerates like an EV.
- I30N with a 4 cyl turbo, and HV electric torque vectoring LSD.
- A really cheap N car below the i20N.
I don't think the EV market is going to really take off until there is modular, standardized battery swapping. That would immensely reduce the initial cost of buying a new car.
The "transformation" is wishful thinking if you can't keep the same sales numbers, but sell less cars at a higher price to fewer customers.
To answer his question: my wish is that Hyundai put an equal amount of investment in their North American dealer network. The products are great but the poor dealer and service experiences are still keeping many people away from the brand.
Can Hyundai N apply the fake gears into all your other normal electric cars? Why limit all the fun to N only, why not have the most fun electric cars across the board?
All right, I’m gonna be brutally honest I never go to a race track nor do I seldom exceeded the speed limit. I am a Limited IONIQ 5 AWD owner. I quite enjoy getting to the speed limit quickly, but I really don’t need much more power than that. Occasionally, I need it to accelerate out of a situation but not often. However, I do want something from the N division, and that is all the technology that went into cooling and recouping that much regeneration and accepting more power through the inlets be transferred to every Hyundai IONIQ 5. The limited trim should have adtive suspension for the current price. Working on efficiency for the rest of the lineup will translate back to the N in the way of motors that are more efficient technology. I want to be able to leave a charging session where I charged from 0 to 82% gaining 62 kWh and not have the fans running for the next 5 to 10 minutes trying to cool the batteries back down on a moderate temperature day. It should be able to keep up better so it can protect that asset and actually allow you to charge more quickly. How does that help you ask? It helps because you can go further on that charge because the fans aren’t running like thoroughbreds at the Kentucky Durby using up miles of energy. Good design does not cost you more and quite obviously this won’t cost hardly anything to adopt. 22:52
De la 💩💩💩💩
Want to make a real performance car? Ditch the goofy EV non-sense, make it lightweight and put a real motor in it that can do more than 5 laps at the track. This is going to be a $40k car in about 6 months collecting dust on the used lots. EV's are dead.
100 years ago, people like you also claimed that no one needs cars and that the horse is the future.
@@amc182 100 years ago, they also had EV's - and they failed because gas was superior. If you are going to state history, at least get your facts right - it makes you look like a fool.
It wasn't about fuel or electricity. My point was that people always live in the present and are not willing to engage in new things.
@@amc182 My point was been there done that, and the battery tech hasn't changed much in those 100 years. You know what the definition of insanity is?
Paying for a performance EV is illogical to me. Sports care are supposed to be excellent sensory experiences. EVs have no soul.
before the Ioniq5 N, all 3 of the previous N-cars sold in the US were recalled for spontaneous explosions. Will the Ioniq5 N make it 4 for 4?
lame hater
The same can be said for Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes. All manufacturers deal with isolated instances. Stop hating!
@@triumvph2314 "isolated instances" All 3 of 3 N cars recalled, that's certainly not "isolated".