Does an electric motor make a Mercedes more reliable?
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- MotoMan attempts to live with a @MercedesBenz EV that is also an SUV and learns a surprising lesson about a complex car: Reliability! Along the way, he uses this #MercedesGLE replacement as it was intended - driving around town, on the freeway and even from the backseat to uncover the good, the bad and the ugly of this first wave of full EVs from Mercedes
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I had a chance to drive one for a few days while my AMG was getting its yearly maintenance done. It was such an amazing experience. They have some amazing tech, fantastic ergonomics, they’re quiet and quick. As an appliance (which is what 98% of the population is using cars as) they’re perfect. I’ll probably end up getting one, or just having my wife get one. No point in using gas for my cars that never travel more than 200 miles a day.
You sound like me I got a loner for five days when I took my ClS 550 in for service and we ordered one , that EQE SUV is amazing!
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I recently got the EQS Sedan and I have enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. Haven’t had any issues and charging hasn’t been an issue at all. I was a little scared at first but now I wonder why I didn’t go electric sooner.
The biggest issue will be power grid and if you travel outside major hub, service! Great show as always!!!
Mercedes needs to get their quality control in check in their Tuscaloosa and Vance facilities. Also, start implementing features like Digital Rearview Mirror, Digital Key and full functionality of their MultiBeam and Digital LED headlights.
Uh....the lighting restrictions are due to government regulations.
The lease rates on these EQ-series boat anchors are so laughably good relative to their price, even I----an EV hater that lives in Oklahoma where gas is $2.80 a gallon---am tempted to lease one for a few years. Benz is giving them away; leasing them at rates that are close to what gas cars that cost half as much lease for. Plus they throw in a couple years of free charging. Sure, they are ugly jellybeans, but they *are* extremely high quality, fantastically luxurious and comfortable, and get stellar range. For $600/mo. even I can overlook their flaws...
Do it!
Does Lucid have an OK service center?
I would for sure, this is a very nice car for that price.
Good to see that the EQs haven't had too many issues.
As someone who has an EQE 500 SUV, it is the best car I ever owned. My previous cars….,A91 manual supra in CU later grey. I know, weird right.
What'd you pay for it?
$108,000 MSRP and had almost $20,000 in lease and dealer incentives. Money factor was also incredibly low.
@@johndean4058 And now it's worth less than what your Supra is worth wholesale.
@@johndean4058 And now it's worth less than your Supra at wholesale prices
@@MrSchn3ll 100% I think MMR is about $65,000. That is why you lease electric cars if you rotate cars ever 3-5 years.
If I got a GLE 53 or GLE 580 it would have been a similar MSRP. But my lease payment is about 1/3 what it would have been. I drive about 35 miles a day so I could and do level 1 charge my car at home and have free level 2 charging at work. When I drive from Colorado to Angel Fire New Mexico to mountain bike I fast charge it at an EA once. The EPA range is about 270, but I get about 320 at 77 MPH with the ac on, while the car is changing lanes on it own, and the massage seats are going. It just worked out well. In the snow it got down to about -5F for a few days and the car was showing about 230 miles of range. I love the tech, I love the 4 wheel steering, I love the driver assist, and it feels like it is built super well. I also take a little bit of pride it is built in Alabama and American made.
I could not justify the ICE equivalent, but this has been a really fun experience, that has gone well so far. If anyone is shocked at the lease prices of new cars and is interested in trying electric I recommend test driving one.
Crazy how Dodge Charger EV weighs about 5838-pound heavier than most other EVs!
Once you have solar panels on your house -- which is required in CA for all new construction -- EVs just make a ton of sense.
In my neighborhood, Teslas, Rivans, and Hyundai/KIA electrics are everywhere. I even see Fiskers and Vinfasts on occasion.
My neighbor two houses over has one of these Merc EVs. I would never buy a Mercedes because of the horrible reliability.
It really depends where you live - I have a dense reliable charging network and Level 2 charger at my property - so an EV is for me the better choice. I have a city car which is already EV - and now I have a brand-new EV for longer distances - very comfortable, very quiet - best way to ride comfortable. The maintenance intervals are 2 years now for the Mercedes, suits me well. But if I would live somewhere without charging network and no charging at home? Not an option. Are EV´s more reliable then ICE´s? I hope so, today's modern cars are also very reliable - I don´t remember any breakdown I had with my cars for a long time.
I had the exact same car but 4 matic as a rental in Houston and to be honest was impressed. The stereo was amazing. If I lived in a warmer climate I’d have one in a heartbeat for sure. But in western Canada it’s just too damn cold in the winter for them to be usable….
“The fastest I got here in LA is about 150.” I used an app and search around the airport and there are EVGO and Electrify America sites that go far above 150kW in abundance. Maybe I misunderstood your quote but those other EV’s you listed all benefit specifically from those chargers. I get the numerous drawbacks including the EQE 32A EVSE charging limit that should be 48A on a 60A beaker. That would be a 50% fast charge time bringing it to five hours. The 32A is manageable if you charge at least frequently at home. 2:08
I didn’t seem to realize that EV’s could be a different experience that could be better until I test drove the Model S long range. For all the faults, I could also see that sort of performance. There’s still issues like depreciation, charging, and battery range that have to progress. The iPhone 3G wasn’t a good product, but you could see where the future was going with the iPhone.
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I have the sedan version and I love it. Best car I’ve ever owned…well it’s a Mercedes!
After 10 months, I've slowly adjusted to the iX50 White with a grey Alcantara interior. The range is outstanding.
This SUV interior is depressing 😞
I've been seeing these EQ SUVs for a few years now because I'm in Tuscaloosa. They make up the majority of the motor pool fleet vehicles for the two plants now.
I've always thought they were ugly as sin. Additionally, the local dealership cannot seem to get anyone to buy them or the EQ sedans either.
Apparently the lease incentives on the EQS SUV are insanely good now though...
Great review and video! I will never pay $700+ on a lease car for this Mercedes. There are more aggressive and better options out there.
Nice new paint job on the walls and floor!
Had some help on that:)
I think it looks better than the EQS. Bargains are out there (or soon will be 😀)so I'd get a cheap lease and run.
Lol, that price!!! That's hilarious. Good one, mercedes.
Speaking of Venice canals. What sort of car would Hank Moody drive today? An EQE I cannot see…
i like how it looks just as cheap as that VW u showed.
The simple answer is NO. I was a Mercedes service rep in a previous life. A friend is still a Mercedes wholesale parts manager. They've replaced 15 "EQ" batteries in about as many months. The first was an EQS that had to be pushed off the carrier into the shop. They have so many sitting on the lot, they've been offering employees a $499 lease with 12K per year. No takers...
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Isn't that a little too much claiming that the EQE SUV is a city car?
Very confusing these electric Mercedes. Looking at different photos the EQE is almost identical to an EQC from the B pillar back.
We love EVs in this house but its a little amusing to describe a $80K+ luxury vehicle as a "city car".
Most people are using large SUV’s as city cars tbh
Terrible title… my Mercedes 2019 G550, AMG GTC, and B250 have been more reliable than my Lexus CT.
My Lexus LS500h, RC350 and RX350 have been much more reliable than my Mercedes C300, GLE 450 and E43 AMG.
Good for you. Lexus/Toyota is not what it once was - they are all about profit and cost cutting, since the early 2000s. I used to be a Toyota manufacturing engineer in Japan. I will never drive Toyota again.
I've been a Mercedes fan all my life, and Mercedes will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart. That said, Mercedes completely screwed the pooch with the EQ cars, _especially_ the EQE and EQS. They designs are terrible, the interiors are horrid/tacky, and the prices are ridiculous (especially on my Island). Not to mention the lack of physical buttons. I think the best mass market Mercedes BEV is/was the EQC (which the US didn't get). The upcoming electric G is the *only* new/upcoming BEV worthy of the Mercedes badge, imo. I think BMW have absolutely trounced Mercedes with their BEVs. Even with it's ugly nose, I'd have an iX over an EQE or EQS any day! Or if I wanted a sedan, I'd have an Audi RS E-Tron GT.
Aside from me not liking any EQ design so far, this car is a limited vehicle for what it costs. 80k cannot translate into a sub-par product and the comparison with KIA is more valid than it seems at first. Then, the issue with screens. i don´t mind screens in a car that is made to be a technology bet or cheap cars but anything luxurious needs to move out of so much catchy eye gadgets and offer the oldschool feeling of older mercs vs their competition. I really don´t want to spend 80k in a luxury car that is flawed by nature and will feel old in a couple of years time plus being electric.... who will want it in 10y time? it´s almost like buying a future liability to be honest.
One more thing, all the evs i drove feel the same. i cannot explain what it is exactly but driving dynamics suck for somebody who likes to get to know the car. it´s almost like a one trick pony like it or not and to me that´s boring as hell. i´m sure a taycan does feel better but still, i can´t see myself putting so much money down on something i cannot enjoy.
my 2c: In 5 or 6 years, the infotainement won't talk to the latest smartphones, the cellular data standards the cars depend on will be phased out, and the things will have depreciated like rocks despite having at least a decade of driving left in them (unless they have air suspension). Every single old fart that whines about "not wanting all these gimmicks and tech, I just want something that'd go from point A to point B", well getting from point A to point B is all these things will be good for. they'll be a match made in heaven, they'll be cheap, and they'll be cheap to run. what more could you ask for?
...unless mercedes is still doing that [variable travel brake pedal] bullspit. that's the dumbest thing since tesla dreamt up the yoke without variable steering.
Merc dealers hate these cars on their lots
If it's a Benz and there are electronics, it's unreliable.
How long before people start getting saddled with huge costs to 'retire' an electric car? I believe it's coming. Right now I can take the biggest old POS ICE hooptie car & the junk yard will give me a couple of bucks for it (scrap metal value). I foresee a day where they'll be a charge, much like with tires (only much much more) where an owner will have to pay the man an environmental burden fee to scrap an e-car. I just cannot see owning the typical (expensive) electric car nowadays, would have to be lease for me if going to one. I applaud the choice we have (E vs ICE) but.... at least with nice/cool ICE cars you get sensory enjoyment out of them to go along with the financial drubbing from depreciation & maintenance costs. I need something with soul for the kind of money we're talking here.
A similar cottage industry will pop up for EV’s. We already have people converting old ICE’s to EV. Also battery recycling is already being done on a massive scale for other devices. Scale that up to cars.
As much of a city car as a Lincoln Towncar
Fiat Panda is a city car this ain’t. This is a suburban sprawl car. And as a MB fanboy I would rather get the Range Rover sport 350 diesel.
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Looks a like a bug 😂
I beg to differ, if you put a GLE Mercedes against a Kia gas powered equivalent what would be the cost difference between the two a are people still purchasing Mercedes despite Kia’s having similar options, bottom line if you a simply not a Kia person chances are you’ll never be and if you’re not a Mercedes person chances are you’ll never be again.
ya all expensive Mercedes EV's have a terrible charging curve
I wonder if Toyota is pushing governments on hybrid vs EV is because an all EV world would eliminate their market advantage of reliable when all manufacturers would essentially be just as reliable.
Let the markets decide, not the government
It doesn't make them any better looking...
“FEWER moving parts”, not “LESS moving parts”.
I would not say EVs are more reliable - way more software and electrical glitches.
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no thank you?
I would buy a PORSCHE EV before I bought a Mercedes Benz ev
Another overpriced shitbox guaranteed to break. PASS!
Well no - they are quite reliable
Everything breaks
@@spiritreapr agreed . according to me maintenance schedule - EV´s break half as often then ICE´s
Mercedes benz used to be reliable, but not now.
It's a city car. If you use this for anything else, you'll regret it.
The interior is most electric car is too simple
No thanks, I’ll pass
no. nobody wants these things. and now resale is dropping huge. even more than before. ding the battery and it's totaled. and the ext (int is awful) is a jelly bean with tiny windows.
Mercedes sold alot electric cars in 2023 and 2024 , u just hate mercedes , just chick in google how many they sold .
@@user-fq4td4no9c no i hate elect cars unless small and cheap for around town with your own garage. btw co2 is life on the planet and has nothing to do with the climate. and good ol Cal has brown outs all the time.
@@justthink5854totally agree: there is nothing “green” about EVs!
@@Fluterraof course there is.. clean air to breathe 🎉
@@Fluterra well you are wrong - its much cleaner - important is also that you get clean energy production which is a key tech.
As ugly as the Kia is, it looks much better than the EQE
This whole thing seems like a really bad idea
So many anti-EV guys in the comments. I guess being anti-vax got boring for them.
Correlation between Anti-Vax and Anti-EV?
And that’s why the Tesla still the only electric choice because the supercharger network
...you're aware the supercharger network is opening up to non-teslas, right?
@@Cal94That’s why I’d wait for NACS
@@ryanfraley7113 tbf, I wrote that before hearing Elon fired the entire supercharger division... NACS supremacy might be a lil delayed at this point.
Omg this Mercedes is ugly
EVs suck.